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I want to start with the Bubba Wallace apology, which
you heard from Brian Finley if you were just listening.
This is a day after what happened at the end
of our show. So we're like twenty three or so,
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twenty two hours from the FBI releasing their findings that
there was no hate crime. There was simply a rope
and a news for the type of not which could
be considered a news was I was found, but it
had been there for well over six months, if not
a year, and had nothing to do with the number
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forty three car. So the progression of it is Bubba
Wallace was supposedly told that it was a noose, and
of course he was very emotional about it. The race
was canceled that or postponed that day. That was on Sunday.
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On Monday, it became a big national story, and he
led the procession out for the national anthem with everyone
in the pits following him out and had those really
powerful tweets I g s with the the flag on
his mask and all of NASCAR behind him. There was
a symbolic nature to it. After the race, and when
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she finished fourteenth, he did somewhat of a victory lap,
showing support for the fans that showed support for him.
It was a feel good through a very what looked
like lead tail. But there was part of it which
I did feel bad about asking the question, I don't
this feels this feels fake? Right? It it the idea?
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It just felt fake something Something was wrong with that story, right,
You're like, yeah, just something. It doesn't make sense about
that story. What what what could it be? I don't know.
There's only five thousand fans. They're nowhere near getting into
the garages. This isn't like an average NASCAR event where
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there are people that get tours through the garages and
through the pits. Nobody's getting because of coronavirus. There's cameras
everywhere limited people in there because those cars are worth
hundreds of thousands of dollars. It's too easy to find
out who did it. And when NASCAR comes out one
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day later, it's in. The FBI comes out one day
later with their findings. You either ask yourself, wait, either
that wasn't the most thorough of investigations, or they've known
for a while something was wrong with this tale, right,
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So to be fair, Okay, to be fair, Bubba Wallace's
statement earlier today was close to perfect. Right. It's it's
really this is really not that hard, Okay, really not
that hard to just go like, hey, you know what,
that was an unbelievable show solidarity, and thankfully it was
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just a misinterpretation. Is something we just we just you know,
are bad. You know, somebody walked into the garage and
thought they saw something that they didn't actually see. And
you know what the most important thing was that everyone
at NASCAR had my back, whether it was a real
or a fictitious noose that actually took place. Right that
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that's all we kind of needed to hear. The problem
was the denial last night on CNN with Don Lemon
or here's Bubba Wallace earlier today talking about those who
would call it a hoax. Sorry if I come off
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as I'm piste off on our interview, but I am
just because of how it's been portrayed and how it's
been on me. And I'm sitting here telling me the
facts of how I'm just being told information and kind
of following suit and and now all of a sudden,
I'm playing the victim card. But at the end of
the day, it's you know, I never wanted to be,
you know, carrying the weight of all this, even weeks prior.
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So it's all this madness. It just so happens that
I am the voice, I am the face, I am
the one that that is, you know, carrying this message.
And now to have this happened. Uh. And it ended
up not being an act a hateful act towards me,
which is great, um, but it just adds that much
more drama, that much more pressure that again I didn't
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ask for. I didn't want to be a part of. Um. Yeah,
look I don't think. Yeah, look, just own it where
it It's okay, you it was. It was a mistake.
It was a misinterpretation, that's all. It totally happens to
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anybody it could happen to anybody, could happen to anybody.
That was today when he's kind of angry and defiant,
and then just moments ago he tweets it's been an
emotional few days. First off, I want to say how
relieved I am the investigation revealed this wasn't what we
feared it was. I want to thank my team, NASCAR,
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FBI for acting swiftly and treating it as it uh,
treating this as a real threat. I think we gladly
take a little embarrassment over what the alternatives could have been.
Make no mistake, though some will try, this should not
detract from the show of unity we had on Monday,
as the progress we've made as a sport to be
more a welcoming environment for all. I kind of think
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you took away from it, right because instead of that statement,
instead of saying, hey, it's just overblown, it's just a mistake,
just a misinterpretation. The important thing was the solidarity shown.
That's not what Bubba Wallace did. Now, that doesn't make
him a horrible human being. It makes him a human being.
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The idea that he didn't invite this, like okay, right,
he's the only black full time driver on NASCAR, you know,
a NASCAR circuit, so you know, he he was he
was kind of thrust into it, but he did embrace it,
and he did take a victory lap and he did.
You know, it doesn't make him the worst person, but
he was feeling himself when he was on TV the
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past couple of days. He was empowered, emboldened, and he
frankly should be because he has the support of everybody
in the sport. But look, we we got to get
out of this thing. I call them board Texas. He
has known a vortexas promise you don't have vord Texas.
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I kind of do, but I don't know. I mean,
is it like some sort of something that spins and
you go into nowhere or something like that. Um, okay,
a vortex of vortwo sees um. There's several different you know,
several different uh uh, you know definitions of it. But
a vortex, if you go to the Webster's Dictionary, is
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usually within a body of water, a circular motion that
tends to form in a cavity and vacuum in the
center and circuit and draws the cavity and vacuum bodies
subject to its action, it draws things down. It sucks
everything down. That's what Board two sees a vortex does.
And we're we get in this vortex of of of
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evil and of racism and of suspicion, and it just
pulls us down to where we see something we automatically
go racism, anti semitism, right, And I'm not gonna sit
here and tell you that racism and anti semitism and
and homophobia like that those things don't exist. But there's
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a couple of things that happen. One, social media does
spread stories that aren't totally true or don't provide all
the facts, like wildfire, and social media hasitency to jump
to conclusions where you're either all in or you're all out.
Like to those of us who are like, man, that
was a great show of solidarity, but that's a weird case, like, oh,
that's that's because you're a racist, Like no, that's actually
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because it just kind of strikes me as weird, Like
who would bring a newse to a a race and
think they can get away with it when there's such
limited number of people. It just didn't make just didn't
add up, Like you've been a long doing long enough
you're like that, that doesn't make sense. Do I think
there are some evil people in the world, Like, yeah,
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do I think there's a criminal that stupid boy, I
don't know, smart enough to be one of the few
to get in, dumb enough to be the only guy
to bring a noose, Like it just didn't seem right.
But but all Bubba had to do to win, win,
win was the statement that he released earlier, you know,
an hour ago, whenever he got released. But instead it
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was it looks if you read what the FBI wrote,
it was a noose, Like, Yeah, a noose is a
name for a not And I've said this time and again,
and this is really really important. Okay, I am anti
black face. Anybody should be anti black face. But the
big problem is that a lot of people, especially knuckleheads
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on social media, think that any time you imitate a
black person or you actually put makeup on your skin
to look like a black person, that's black face. It
is not just like any time you see a rope
with that loop, it's a noose. If you want to
use the technical definition of the type of not it is,
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you may, but that is not the evil type of
noose that most people are referring to and this is
our problem. All right, There's there's a couple of different
problems one and I think Bubba Bubba was guilty of
this one. You want to be heard. Everybody wants to
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be heard, and people are willing to listen, except the
people who say they want to be heard. Because had
Bubba simply even after that, or at any point time,
had he simply listened to the Okay, well where's the rope?
How big was it? But it was just a rope pole?
We were sure, we're sure this is the type of
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noose that has meant for me. Because I'm we were
sure about this. There should have been some sort of
who would have done that? Instead the immediate reaction you
had to be willing to listen. This was like remember
that the tone and tenor of a statement today was great.
This was yesterday last night on CNN. The image that
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I have and I have seen of what was hanging
in my garage is not a It's not a garage pool.
I've been racing all my life. We've we've raced out
of hundreds of garages that never had garage pools like that.
So people that want to call a garage pool and
put out old videos and photos of of of knots
being as their evidence go ahead. But from the evidence
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that we have and that I have, it's a straight
up noose. The FBI has stated it was a news
over and over again. NASCAR leadership has stated that it
was the news. I can confirm that I actually got
evidence of what was hanging in my garage, over my car,
around my picker guys to confirm that it was a noose,
and never seen anything like it. This is just a
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story that grew and grew and grew. Right, I once
caught a fish this big. A noose by definition, is
a loop of the slipknot that binds closer the more
it's drawn like that. That's actually what a noose is.
It is not necessarily the type of noose that everyone
seems to believe he was referring to. It's just the
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well we have have here is a failure to communicate, right,
That's what we have here lost in translation, if you
will it, it does happen like I don't think that
Bubba is evil or wrong or a race s bader
in any way, but sometimes you see things and you
it's here's here's the deal. As a sports fan, Okay,
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you know some sports fans because their team is always bad,
that they're just waiting for something bad to happen, like
that's a sign we're gonna lose this game. Many of
you are that guy or that girl who watches your
team play. You wait for a sign, and that sign
tells you you're gonna lose, because we always lose. That's
how people seem to be approaching racism. At any sign
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of something that could be racial or racial injustice, we
always assume when we don't know it to be the case.
And if we just take a breath, we can find
out what's what, We can get to the bottom of things. Um,
what what felt like an amazing galvanizing moment on Monday
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at exactly this time at Talladega we now becomes a
bit of an embarrassment to Bubba Wallace. And it wasn't
because of the misinterpretation. And it wasn't because he's wrong
that there have been racists that are NASCAR fans and
not in any way, And it wasn't even because of
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his celebration after the race, unless of course, he knew
what we were told yesterday before the race ever began,
and he Bubba Wallace's problem was, just like many protesters
have told the rest of America, you're not listening. He
heard what he wanted to hear. He imagined what he
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wanted to see, and that is that just like anybody
who is protesting wants to tell you, like, look, you're
you're curing what you want to hear your he did
the exact same thing. And until we're all willing to listen,
all wanting to learn, all want to take a breath,
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things like this are gonna happen. So I do I
feel a little bad for Bubba Wallace, but much of
this he's done to himself because he was feeling himself
and unwilling to listen to the actual findings and just
go like, hey, this is the affirmation information I was
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working on. My bad. Thank you so much to NASCAR.
All those guys have my back, and they'll still, by
the way, have his back. We all just want that
conspiracy theory to somehow be true. And we did land
on the moon. Lee Harvey Oswald did shoot Kennedy, And
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the Bubba Wallace thing was it was a misinterpretation. It
was just a mistake. It happens. It happens. Be sure
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Alix Show Buckboard Radio. So, okay, so there's there. There's
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two different things going on here where they Bradley and
have you guys ever heard of split in the vote?
He isn't split in the vote, is right? So, uh,
splitting the vote is usually something that you refer to
in politics. Uh, but vote splitting is an electoral effect
in which the distribution of votes among similar candidates reduced
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the reduced the chance of winning an election. Right. So
that's kind of what's happening. That's kind of what's happening
with Avery Bradley. So, Avery Bradley was part of this
player's coalition who questioned whether or not it was right
for the NBA players to go back to playing when
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to all this kind of civil and social unrest, Right,
would it be a distraction? And he just wondered if
there were better things to be doing with your time
than just playing basketball. It's actually it's a really it's
an interesting thought. Okay, So look My immediate thought was like,
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are you kidding? You know you're you're allowed to protest,
you're and you have a great platform and playing in
the NBA. But that doesn't mean you have to sacrifice
your day job. I know. Yeah. By the way, all
that money you make in your day job, you if
you want to, you can donate as much as you
want to causes, which that that does more in many
ways than marching on the street. Oh, however, it would
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be a big sacrifice. You're on the Lakers. You got
a chance of winning a championship to make such a sacrifice.
But again, that's that that's only half of the things.
So Avery Bradley is not going to join the Lakers
in Orlando, but not for just one reason. His oldest
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child is six years old, Lizabeth's mom in Austin, and
because he I guess wouldn't be able to attend because
he has some respiratory problems. It's one of the two
reasons Avery Bradley is not going to go. The other
reason he's not gonna go is well, he wants to
donate some of his time to these social causes. Okay, look,
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I I actually understand what he's doing here. Avery Bradley.
I guess he's too woke to work. That's where what
it is. He's too woke to work. He's too bothered
by what he's seen to go to work. But instead
of just owning that and being the guy, Kyrie wasn't
going to Orlando anyway. He wasn't gonna play anyway. So
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Kyrie offering this up, it's like it doesn't matter. But
but see what Avery wants is he wants the best
of both worlds. He wants to be able to be
recognized as protesting instead of playing. On the other hand,
he doesn't want to be criticized for it, so he
puts the family thing out there. Let me put the
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family thing out there, you know why, because and you'll
get this on social media and you'll get pushed back
from other radio guys or whatever got leaves a jerk.
You can't question family, Yes you can. Most of those
guys aren't bringing their families. Do you know why? Because
if you actually look at it, players have to be
quarantined for our four to thirty six hours when they
get their family members have to be quarantined, I believe
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for four days before they reunite with the players. If
you have, if you have anybody who is I mean,
nobody wants to be quarantined for four days, let alone.
You got little kids and they gotta stay in a
hotel room be quarantined four days? No thank you, no
thank you. Is it a sacrifice to go and play
in the NBA and leave your family behind? Shure? Is
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it is? But you know what it's called. It's called
a job, and you have earned the right, Avery Bradley,
to be one of it's not just a four fifty
best basketball players on earth. But if you break it
down right, if you really kind of want to get
down to it, Avery Bradley is part of the twenty
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two teams that go. I think they expanded their roster.
But if not, you know, I mean, you're talking about
the best three players on the face of this earth.
Three hundred guys, that's it get to play basketball in
this bubble and get paid handsibly nearly five million dollars
his contract this year to do so. And oh yeah,
by the way, you just got three months at home.
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You got more time at home than you've ever gotten.
So which is it? Is it family? Because it's family?
Then I would go, like, you know, look, I think
it's a I I think you you don't want to
end up resenting your family turning down a chance to
play for and win a championship. Is it family or
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is it these social causes are too important for you
to play concentrate on basketball? Because if that's it, again,
I disagree with you, but I would actually respect it
more than the listen's family can't question me about it
or his family, then don't throughout the social cost thing?
And I and I know what what and I am
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a reasonable person. A reasonable person says, well, look, you
don't want to leave family behind, so since he's staying
at home, he's gonna donate his time. Like that's all reasonable, okay,
but it's all a bunch of it all feels like
he's hiding behind the family thing. Look, I have kids,
they're awesome. And I remember when I would do the
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n C a term for CBS. Okay, I do a
week of games, maybe home for a day, then championship week,
right where you would do? I would go to Vegas
and do the Mountain West, fly on a red eye,
go to New York, do the UH selection Sunday shows,
sometimes fly home for a day. But oftentimes fly right
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to the first site and go from first sight to
New York City to the final four. It's a month
and a half away from seeing your family unless you
fly your wife in much like these guys. But it's
an unbelievable job. And while it stinks, just like all right,
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the other part is they got three months at home.
What we're doing here? Oh yeah, And this is not
society telling me this. This is not you know, I'm
not I'm I'm middle of the road, got label, all right,
But I will tell you in the real NBA. Do
you think Lebron James happy about this? I want, like
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Avery Bradley wasn't good the first half of the year,
he started to play way better. He's an incredibly important part.
They're gonna have to shut down Patrick Beverley and Lou Williams.
These guard That's who he was brought in to do.
That's what he was brought in to do. And he's not.
You're not gonna show up what you want to win
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an NBA You get so few opportunities to win the
NBA championship. He'd been on bad teams. You get to
play for the Lakers with Lebron James would arguably the
best team in the league, and you're not gonna do it.
You think Lebron wants you back. He's got a player
option next year. Imagine if they lose and they get
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lit up by the Clippers guards, by the Bucks guards,
or by the Rockets guards. How's that conversation go. That's
not politics, that's not that's not politicians, that's not talking heads.
That's real in the NBA, those guys going down there
have every right to go. What do like the Trevor reason?
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Things different, right, It's just different. You know, he's got
a twelve year old son. I still would have gone,
but he only gets to see he gets a month
with them in the summer, and because of the dates
and school and all that other stuff. I would still
find a way to bring bring your you know, even
though he's got to be quarantined because of his age
for four days or whatever. I would still find a way.
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But the reason thing, at least the reason is like, look,
it's family. This is the way it is. You know,
it's it's not pretty, but this is this is what's
what custody looks like. Bradley is trying to do both.
He's trying to do social justice warrior and put it off.
I'm a six year old, bro. You got a legit
chance to win a championship. If you think Lebron James
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is happy with that, news that that ain't that ain't
the case. Doug Gottlieb Show here rolls on on on
Fox Sports Radio. Yeah. Look, there's a realness to it,
and what happens in what happens is media guys, Hey,
media guys, look at the we we all do this.
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We look at the world through our own biases, through
our own lifestyle, and so you'll get a lot of
media guys will come today to Avery Bradley's defense, like
you can't. I got one of these last night. You
you can't question, you know, you can't question what he's doing,
why he's doing it like that actually isn't even close
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to being how it works. Of course we're allowed to
question it, right, of of course, we are absolutely positively
allowed to question a matter of fact. That's my job
by nature. Oh that's the story. Well good, that's the
story that I believe the story, and nobody ever questions
the story or whatever of it. It's ridiculous. This, this
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is what I'm talking about UM last night. Nate Jones,
who I mean, I really like his his work, Um,
Nate Jones, who you can follow on social media at
Jones on the NBA, very popular NBA writer. So Nate
Jones goes on the Bird and says, hey, you can't
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question this, dude, Right, that's what he said. You can't
question it. There's no right or wrong what players decide
to do, playing or not playing when the season resumes.
That's a person's choice. Save the judgment that ain't that works. Hey,
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there may not be right or wrong in your mind,
but if you have a job, Like a team meets
at the start of the year, right, And not every
team does this in the NBA because they know they
don't know have a chance. But the Lakers meet the
start of the year, and what do they say, Well,
we want to one of the best record in the West,
and we want to get to the NBA finals. We
want to win an NBH Like winning an NBA championship
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is their goal. Avery Bradley has bounced around the NBA
searching for just such an opportunity. Your goal is still
out there. You get paid to play basketball. Now. I
know the NBA put in a stipulation like, hey, look,
you don't want to go, you don't have to go,
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We'll still pay it, right, But make no mistake about it,
this is a job. It is a job, a really
glamorous job, a really well compensated job. And I'm not
I'm not somebody to sit here and tell you those
men haven't earned the right, okay, And and for the
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most part, they've earned that money because there's just not
a lot of guys that can do what they can do.
They's not like Avery Bradley six one, six to They're
just not a lot of guys that can make that
can play coup positions, make that volume of threes and
guard almost you know, three or four positions at the
defensive end. He's worth what he gets paid. But he
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gets paid to play basketball, and he's on a team
that was put together to win a championship, and those options,
those possibilities are right out there for him. And he's like,
my my six year old can't come. And this is
gonna take away from Black lives matter, Right, He's not
gonna take away from Black lives matter, because you have
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a bigger platform when you're playing in an NBA Championship
than you do when you're not playing and you're supposed
to be caring for your six year old son. Yes,
John Rolods, do you think he changes his mind at
some point before they head down to uh Florida? You
think he's gonna hold tight on it? I think he's
I think they've moved on. Okay. I think Jr. You know,
j R. Smith is a guy that they're gonna sign,
and it wouldn't And I'm I'm sure they're gonna try
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and call up Darren. They're gonna try and get Darren
Collinson talk him out of retirement again. And he was
close last Remember he came to the game when they
played the Clippers and they beat the Clippers and he
sat with Jenie Bust and he's like, yeah, no, Derren
Coulinson has got more family time. It was all about
family time. Is Jehovah's Witness is a different guy, right,
religious beliefs, and obviously he's gone through some off the
court issues going back to the Sacramento deal, He's got
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plenty of family time. Like, look, dude, that guy didn't
want to come. Do you want to come? This is
the way I understand if you're a writer, or if
you're a civilian and you're like, look, these are really
reasonable stuff. He's really shaking up. I get it. Basketball
players are wired differently. Basketball players play basketball just so happens.
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You can go play center of basketball, get paid to
do it. When a championship do it, do it with
Lebron and do it in lake or uniform and be
on national TV. Any your social causes. The NBA has
never slowed down anybody from speaking out, you know, on
most most social causes. Be sure to catch the live
edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific. John palm Rossi joins us on The
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Doug Gotlap Show, covers Major League Baseball for both Fox
and the MLB Network JP. We we finally have a deal.
We finally have baseball. But uh, can the damage be undone?
Weokod Afternoon Dog. The answer is yes, it can. I
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believe that it would have been easier on the sports
future to have been playing are it's safe to play
by now or at least in spring training mode. That
would have allowed the season to start around the fourth
of July and really own the month of July across
the country from a standpoint of sports. But I also
sense that there there's a combination today of of remorse
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at how long it took to get the agreement, but
also excitement over having a season. And we have to
realize too that we are in no way in the
clear here. We've got a lot of states that have
that had increases in COVID nineteen positive tests, and we
just heard in the update as well it's it's continuing
to affect the sports world. Uh. But but baseball for
now moving forward with plans and also now they can
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really focus on the key thing here, which has health
and safety. And if you're not able to to give
the proper bandwidth to those concerns, uh, then the the
unique season and the entire experiment of playing baseball on
the pandemic, I think would would not have a great
chance to succeed. John Palm ROSSI join us gotlip show
here on Fox Sports Radio JP Um. Okay, so there's
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there's a lot of interesting Okay, So there's universal d H. Right. Okay,
you're only gonna play against your division or the same
division from the the opposite league. Right, So if you're
the a L West you're only gonna play against a
O West and the n Os, right, I think they're
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gonna play in home stadiums with nobody there. Am I
missing anything yet? Well, the latter part is still to
be decided. We saw today a statement from Jim Crane
of the Houston Astros owner and saying that he hopes
to at some point in time play in front of
some fans. Now we don't know when or how many,
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but it is I think Doug at this point in
time premature to say that all teams will play before
no fans all season. I think we're we're we're still
in the process now of of what the economic realities
will be and what the health realities more importantly will be,
uh for these teams. And I think we're still a
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month away from from that decision really happening for good
because we're still a month away from the regular season starting. Uh.
It's it's a great point, So we don't we don't know. Um, Okay,
it feels like whoever has the greatest depth of pitching
is the most likely to be successful. Is that a fair?
Is that what most baseball people are thinking? Yes, I
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think that's fair. Uh. The Dodgers. Interestingly, probably they would
have been the best team in won sixty two, and
they're probably the best team in sixty because you think
about their rotation Clayton Kershaw, Walker Bueller, David Price. Uh,
that they've got some young guys coming up as well,
uh Bruiser Graderol who they got in the trade from
the Twins, Gonselin Dustin May. They still have Julio Rias
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was still a very young up and coming arms. So
they've got the best depth, and most importantly, they will
be able to have Mookie Betts for them, which was
not obviously assured just a few short days ago. So
I think overall the Dodgers and their fans that feel
pretty good right now. Uh they do. What about the Yankees?
Obviously they went out and they had the biggest signing
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in terms of arms in the off season. Where did
they sit in terms of UH in their their roster
for this type of season? I think the Yankees aren't
pretty good shape as well, and and having Garrett Cole
ready will be huge for them. Obviously of a fundamentally
different situation for them in comparison to the Dodgers, and
that they're marquee acquisition for it was a long term
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free agent signing who knew was going to be part
of the organization for a long time, which is of
course the case for Garrit Cole there in New York.
I think overall they did have some injuries and sprinting
spring training. Of course, Aaron Judge uh had his issues
in spring training from a standpoint of injuries, But the
hope is that with the additional time to rest, the
Judge will will be more of a factor during the
course of the second half of a normal season, which
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is the season now and and so I overall the
Yankees will begin this season as the likely favorite in
the American League. But I'll mention one team you're Doug
that I think needs to be paid very close attention to,
which is the Cleveland Indians. The Indians are a team
that they nearly traded away Francisco Lindor during the off season.
They didn't. They still have a very very good rotation
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right now, and so they will still have lind Or
to begin this season. And then, really interestingly, the trade
deadline is still going to happen, Doug, just a month later.
So August thirty one is the deadline after you've only
played about thirty games, so good luck making a really
strong determination on your team buy or sell after only
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thirty games. It's gonna be one of the more bizarre
and unique trade deadlines in MLB history. They're they're changing
the extra inning rules. Okay, So you start with a
run run second base and how many outs second base?
Nobody out it it's the international tie breaker DOUG that
we have seen in uh in in different tournaments in
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the in the past, including the World Baseball Classics. It's unique.
So you start run around second base, nobody out and
and basically the whoever ended the last inning. Uh So,
basically there's gonna be a spot that that whoever the
batter previous to the ones at the plate to begin
the inning is the one of the second base um, okay,
which means they're going to can speed this trying trying
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to get this thing done rightly. What's the unintended consequences
of it? I don't think there is really any unintended consequence,
because that the consequence is a very very intended one,
which is to make the game end sooner. Do we
do we envision a scenario where that could happen in
the regular season in the future. I think so, and
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frankly does I hope. So. I am not someone that
believes that we've got to play an eighteen inning game
all the way to the end for it to be
a legitimate result for a season. I I'm someone of
believes that you skew the result of the next game
if you have to make three roster moves because you
had to burn two or three different starting pitchers to
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get through an extra ending game during the course of
the season, that is as as to meet distorting as
as the the outcome of the game itself. So I'm
a big believer in in letting there be the the
extra ending timebreaker that we see an international baseball I
think it's actually good healthy. It keeps the games at
a shorter amount of time, and I think the reason
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why we're seeing it here is that allows the game
to end sooner, which involves less of a taxing effort
on the pitching staff, but also very crucially gets everybody
out of the ballpark and a reasonable enough hour for
it to be cleaned deep cleaned before the next day,
which is a part of the daily routine now Major
leagu baseball. Yeah, it's gonna be really interesting to see,
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you know about It's not just it's not just a
lot of games in the short period time. It's a
lot of games short per time, adding in the need
for extra sanitation. John Paul Morossi joined us MLB network
Fox Sports, covering Major League Baseball, and of course, um,
this all comes on the heels of like two days ago,
I thought they were going to sign the deal because
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it would expand the playoffs, they would have made more money.
Instead they did not. The players. Uh, then you know,
chose kind of the nuclear option, which you know, the
commissioner had to had to use the previous agreement where
he could just start the season. Is it is the
grievance that valuable to the players? Uh? They think so. Uh,
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That's the only conclusion that I can reach. Either they
think so, or or they wanted to preserve um, uh,
some sort of a stand or a stance that they
wanted to make a very firm position on principle in
relation to MLB's position. And certainly we're all entitled to
make our own stances based on principle. In this case, though,
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I'm not sure I see it really being worth that
effort because had the players accepted the deal, they would
have gotten more money this year that there would have
been greater salary promises this year. They would have had
more money this year, and they also would add the
expanded playoffs, which Doug I I can't stress enough. Expanded
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playoffs are crucial for everybody because it expands the league's
revenues via media rights and for the players. It will
make more teams feel as though they are close to
being a playoff team, and we have seen time and
time again the single factor that makes teams want to
spend money the most is believing that they've got a
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few more marginal wins to pick up to get into
the playoffs. And by not expanding the playoffs, the players
I believe did themselves a disservice. Now their chances of
succeeding in the grievance. Some analysts have said it's very low.
I am not a lawyer, so it's hard for me
to really gauge on that, but it seems to me
that MLB, based on the way the March agreement written,
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had the ability to have a separate conversation about the
economic realities with no fans in the stands, which is
what the case has been, it is right now, and
they made multiple offers to that effect. To me, it's
hard to say that MLB would have been negotiating in
bad faith. Yeah, I I don't. I don't get it,
and I know they're setting up for that CB a
fight in a year, but I I just think you
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gotta get back out in the field and and get
to playing games and build up some equity, because you
just they gave away July. July was the month of baseball,
unquestionably the month of baseball. They gave it away. And
I understand, like you're like, hey, look, the owners weren't
being right. They weren't being fair. Okay, that's what bosses
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have intended to do that because they're looking at the
bottom line and they don't want to they don't want
to just hemorrhage money. But you gave away the month
of July. Even this feels like this deal could have
been done a long time ago. I understand you wouldn't
played sixty games a long time ago, but giving away
Allied does not sit well with so many people. Last thing,
any idea what this does to the economy of the
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sport in terms of contracts like a Mookie bets in
the upcoming off season. Great question, Doug, And it's really
hard to say at this early juncture. A lot is
gonna depend on the revenues of the sport this year,
where we're at as a country and economically in the winter,
but I think it's safe to say that that the
forecasts of a four in or million dollar deal for Mookie,
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unfortunately for him, and he's done nothing wrong, obviously, it's
it's probably not gonna come true, just based on where
we're at and in the overall UH rollbacks you're seeing
in salaries across frankly our our entire country right now.
But I think that's gonna be one of the more
UH one of the more pressing questions for everyone will
be what does free agency look like and and how
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satisfied are the players with the way the market functions
this winter after a season that is not as lucrative
as it probably should have been, especially as it relates
to post the revenue. So it's a it's a great question,
hard to predict, but it's also for me difficult to
really expect that he's going to get every dime that
you would have expected he was going to get a
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year ago, and and the big question there, Doug will
be this, in these times, do the Dodgers, as respectfully
as they can, at some point in time in the season,
say Mookie, we love you. This is a crazy time.
What about either a one year extension at at great
money or or maybe even above market for a shorter
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term deal that would put him still in the in
the open market eventually. It's it's a really interesting question
to maybe say the time to get out there and
strike the market. Rather than signing a ten year deal
now at reduced numbers, do you sign a really lucrative
two year deal and then take another bite at the
apple in a couple of years. That may be the
way that Mookie Betts plays. It might be, but I
don't know if he's what would he do knowing that
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there's the the potential for a lockout or for a
strike upcoming in the next offseason the off season after that.
There's there's so much unknown there or what the new
CBA is gonna look like. I don't think it would
limit his his earnings, but we we have really no idea. Well, look, listen, JP,
you got one month to get yourself in shape and
get ready. There's a lot of games, a lot of talking.
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We appreciate you joining us, Dog. I want to be
in the best shape of my life by the time
the game started. I'm not quite sure I'll get that,
but I'm surely gonna try. JP. Thanks so much, John
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What Up? Doug gotlip Show? Box Sports Radio? Do Do
do Ah? We got a new story I want to
get to. So you know, what's Here's what college sports is, right.
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College sports is the ability to recruit and motivate young men,
uh keep them, you know, in lines, so to speak,
in terms of like, look, it's college. There's a lot
of you know, there's a lot of distractions, and you
gotta get guys focused on the sport at hand, football
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or basketball. For consideration of this discussion, you gotta be
able to deal with the athletic director. Uh. You have
to be able to deal with boosters. You gotta have
you gotta hire really good people around you because there's
a ton of there's a lot of players, a lot
of different things that you gotta do. But it's about
motivating guys, staying organized, hiring good coaches, and coaching what
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you know and hiring guys that coach what you do,
not coaching in the NFL. It's it's a lot like
coaching in the NBA. It's not as much about the
XS and os. Okay, it's about can you command the
respect of the guys in that room. Like, look, that's
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we talk all the time about arm strength with Joe Burrow,
but Joe Burrow's arm strength is a very It's probably
fifth or six in regards to what's most important most
important for a quarterback. You know, the ability to process,
that's probably the most important. You've gotta have pocket athleticism
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at least. Um, yes, you need to have arm strength,
but y'all also have a quick release, and you've got
to be accurate and oh yeah, by the way, you've
got to be able to stand in front of forty
six guys on game day and make them believe or
at least ten other guys on a game winning drive
and make them believe. That's the same thing with with coaching.
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This from um the New York Daily News Minish Meta,
who does have he's widely known as the guy with
the best sources with the New York Jets. Uh. It
appears things have taken a turn for the worst New
York since Jets all pro safety Jamal Adams requested a
trade from the team. One person may have a lot
to do with it. According to Miniche Meta, Adam Gaze
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is a major factor in why Adams has requested a trade. Sure,
that's not ideal. The piece goes on, but according to Meta,
get the Gaze saga gets even worse. The Jets coach
apparently isn't respected in the locker room. To this point,
the ongoing dispute between Adams and the Jets has has
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resolved around New York's lack of urgency to give the
twenty four year old his extension. So the latest report
from Meta certainly is interesting. Miniche Meta said Adam Gaze
major factors of why all pro Jamal Adams felt has
felt uncomfortable with his long term future with the Jets
and requested a trade. Jamal Adams is not alone in
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his feelings towards Adam Gaze. Gaze is not respecting the
locker room. Now, we don't know if it's two guys
with three guys, four guys. It should be pointed out
that the Jets are not only kind a bit of
a dysfunctional mess, they did finish seven and two. Adam
Gaze is an offensive guy. I'm guessing he spends a
ton of time in the meeting's room meeting rooms with
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Sam Donald, especially when Donald was out and came back
from having mono nucleosis. You gotta get the guy up
to speed, you spend extra special time there. Gaze has
been a head coach before with the Miami Dolphins, and
maybe that's part of the reason he doesn't garner the
respect from the locker room, right because one of the
hard things about being a pro football coach or an
NBA coaches in order to get respect from the locker room,
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you have to have one before in order to win,
you have to have respect for the locker room. To
catch twenty two. But I I always take these things
to mean, Oh, Jamal is not getting his way, so
he wants and he's not getting his contract, so he
wants out. Let's play the coach. Roim feeling uncomfortable. To
be fair, Adam Gates didn't draft him, wasn't the head
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coach when he's drafted. Adam Gays is a little bit quirky,
But that doesn't mean that Adam Gates is gonna be fired.
It feels to me like they'll just search out the
Mike mcaddn and guys, and the guys of the previous
regime guys, and they get rid of those guys. I
I do always wonder though, and I have no idea
of Adam Gayston coach. I think he did a good
job with the Dolphins. They couldn't figure out the quarterback,
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then they did figure out the quarterback, and then Ryan
Tandell got hurt when once they figured out the quarterback.
I don't know if he's a good, great, whatever coach.
I I do know that, um, he's very very bright,
and he's actually pretty fun to be around. But I
also know that, like if you don't know him, he
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does can put off a weird vibe. And you know,
remember Jamal Adams was in the division they it against
the Dolphins, and he wasn't drafted by Adam Gates. So
there's a lot more to it than that. My guesses
those players go before Adam Gates goes, although Gates was
very much hanging on for dear life before Sam Donald
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returned and then they finished seven and two. All right,
let me give my thoughts on Major League Baseball. What
we have to do now is forget about it. Right.
Did they lose July? Yep, they lose a bunch of money. Yep.
Do we lose the chance to see an entire season
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the mookie bets in a in a dodging uniform. Yep.
But you know what, which you cannot allow that to
consume you. It's like we all and especially baseball needs
to go through therapy. This is a hard one, you know.
It's it's one of the reasons that teams don't keep
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around players, even if you know in a negotiation you
with you're seen as low balling, and a player holds
out and then he the most money he can get
is back from his same team. Might take Melvin Gordon,
for example, Melvin Gordon wanted a contract worth thirteen million
dollars per year. The Chargers are willing to give him
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ten million dollars per year. Before last season, he decided
to hold out. He held out, he held out. They
did not budge. They told him they weren't gonna budge,
and they didn't budge. He came back, didn't have a
great year, and I think he ended up signing for
what was a six million a year with the Denver Broncos.
Six millionear with Denver Broncos. And I'm not sure. Lindsay's
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probably a better all around player, but together they should
be outstanding. You didn't need to spend six million on it.
So he gets he gets a golden parachute from the
Denver Broncos. And so you might ask yourself, well, the
Chargers want to give him ten, Why did the Chargers
get in there? They could have give him six or
six and a half or seven, and you get the
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same player and an absolute bargain basement price. And the
reason is you don't want a guy who thought he
was gonna make their team million dollars. She was offered
ten million dollars to be walking around making seven million dollars,
because he's gonna be ticked the whole time and he's
gonna be blaming your team the whole time. What what
you don't want in baseball is a bunch of those
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type of guys who are just in a bad way
all year because they're not getting paid nearly what they
think or what their contract tells them they should be
getting paid simply because they waited way too long that
you absolutely positively do not want. You have to process
what happened and understanding we are moving forward. It's what
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Bill belichi. We are onto Cincinnati. So I'm fired up
that the a L and n L West and East
will all be matched up. You're gonna have Mets and
Yankees and Red Sox and Yankees and that's fun, you know,
and Yankees and Phillies, and that n L East, the
n L Central and a L Central. I mean, the
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Brewers are gonna be back playing in the a L again.
That'll be cool. And the n L wes NLS will
be fun. Like I really legitimately like it. And I
would enjoy if baseball found a way to make because
it's such a regional sport, to make the matchups for
more region regional, not just for this year that's what
they're doing, but for years to come. Um, I don't
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love the runner at second base for overtime in order
to get overtime extra innings, in order to get get
this thing moving. But every baseball guy I talked to
is like, dude, extra innings in baseball is bad for baseball.
It just is. You tax too many arms, you last
way too long, you start screwed up your rotation. Like,
let's just get it over with. There's a Now, maybe
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it changes because there's only sixty, but that's generally been
the sense. I will not look back at the errors
of the MLB owners or the MLB p A. Come
to agree me. They're gonna play baseball. It's at the
end of the month of July. Does it suck that
they missed the month of July? Shore? Does it suck?
We don't have a full season or even half a
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season of games to check out stats Shore, but we'll
have baseball, So let's move forward. Come up next. NBA
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