Two Bubbles Are Better Than One!

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Greetings and welcome inside. It is a Doug got Leap
Show here at Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith and Mike
Harmon in for Doug this afternoon. As we start the show,
and this is the official I mean, I feel like
I need to be the first one to say this.
This is the official twelve hours to Hamilton's notice. Thank
you twelve hours. We are less than twelve hours now,

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I feel it. It's like Bobby Beni a day. I'm
counting down, like I'm Ryan Seacrest and oh I'm in
the middle of Times Square and people are kissing and
Bobby Beni is getting money and we're getting Hamiltons in.
That's what we've done this week. We counted down to
Bobby Benie a day. Now we're counting down. We're twelve
hours from Hamilton's. Yeah, but what drops at midnight is
in a powdered wig musket. Uh, just some documents. I mean,

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because we're always writing and talking like we're running out
of time. So he never more appropriate than right now
here on Fox Sports raining you. No, No, it's not
the musical. It's documents. We're just gonna get to read
about it. Oh No, I'm just saying he wrote like
he was running out. So all it is is tons
of what is it, thirty thousand disagreements I believe is
one of the lines in there. So that's it. Just

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paper flying everywhere. Instead of lighting off fireworks, we just
throw paper in the air. It's just seen a clean
up process. It's gonna be YouTube where you can play
the songs, but they don't have the copyrights, so it's
not with the lyrics, and it's just pictures of what
he wrote, just turning page to page like you're watching
one of those uh video channels like up in the
Up in the thousands where they play the song and

(01:53):
they give you just the little tidbits about the band.
Gwen Stefani recorded this song in two thousand and six,
and it stays up of like thirty seconds and then
it goes to the next one. Quinn Stefani started No
Doubt in in Orange County and it and it keeps going.
I mean, that's invaluable. If you're on the dating scene now,
you have little titbits for whatever is playing overhead. You

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may have heard that song at two am while you're
trying to fall asleep on the couch, and some of
those details have seeped into your brain. See, that's what
we disagree with you, because throughout the course of my life,
there are many times where I thought the minutia of
trivia and things I knew was going to be my
gateway to dating pleasure, and it just didn't work that way.

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It was more I didn't want to come. That's nice, No,
but I mean you would think that, Hey, you know
funny story and I say, you know about Gwen Stefani. Yeah,
that's nice. All right, I'm leaving your too weird, I
I you know it with The thing is to be
cool like that. I need to be my age now,
like I need to be in my forties and everything.
Hey yeah, oh he knows a lot of stuff. He's smart,

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he's a catch. Yeah, but it's too late now. Yeah,
I'm married, I have a kid. It's it's too late now.
I mean, I miss my time. It's like the time
I was I should have been cool. You know, now
I wasn't as cool, and now I'm really cool, and
now it doesn't help spend time now and it's not helping.
But I mean, you could pass that wisdom onto others
for only nine a month Jason's newsletter, Yes, video or written,

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and I will talk like Obi wan Kenobi and say,
please do not get seduced or murdered by the dark
side of the full I don't. I don't think saying
gets seduced by the dark side. Actually, no, there's probably
a percentage of people to where you've really gotten them
a little bit excited. Here in the neon hour on
the West Coast, well the woods seduced and said by

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Sarah leguinnis can be a big frow dziac my friend.
Uh So, we got Jake Glazer coming up in about
fifteen minutes. He's gonna get us all the latest news
in the NFL. The NFL has cut their preseason games
down to two. I've been telling you for the last
couple of days it's gonna get cut down to zero.
Congratulations to everybody who stole that take this morning and
and got on the internet with it. Information is always free,

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but today the big story so far this morning has
been nine more players in the NBA have tested positive
for COVID nineteen. This puts the number of players at
which is a small number when it when you think
about the number of NBA plays. Okay, well it's fifteen
out of your over three hundred, but really when one

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person has it and there around a team that gets
the two and that gets to three. So the NBA
is trying to take care of this at the same time. Tomorrow,
De Rosen of the Spurs talked about the frustration and
the overwhelming rules about what life is going to be
like in the Orlando Bubble. Now is MLB team's report
we're looking at, Okay, when the NBA winds up getting
things together, how they're gonna go. And I get that

(04:47):
there's a lot of crazy things in the bubble. I mean,
just the rule about you can play cards with a
deck and then throw it away. It's like Vegas, you know,
we we we play one hand through with blackjack and
then we're gonna get rid of cards. We throw the
cards away. Uh. I don't want to be the sponsor
for that because the number of times it passes through
the player's hands over the course of a month, they'll

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be loyal to you for life, just because they think
they have to be. Yeah, these cards were held by j. R. Smith.
Then he dropped all of them, and so these can
be yours. So I get the great The ping pong
rules are insane, and this is something to mar de
Rosen talked about that, Oh we can bang bodies against
each other, but we can't play two on two ping pong.
We can't be close to each other. I get the

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minutia of it, and I understand that players are oh
my god, this is really insane. But you gotta seem
like you're on top of things. You can't have a
two piece lead, two page leaflets saying yeah, we got it.
Oh that's great. That's gonna inspired me with confidence. I'd
rather be inundated with the minutia. And they got at me.
What is page to say? Nothing? It just says Adam

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Silver commissioner with a big autograph, that that's all you have.
So I get the minutia of it, and I understand that.
And this is coming from me who honestly I am
now a bubble convert, because, as you know, I have
never been a fan of the bubble. When I tried
to lay hands on you in the whole nine yards,
I get, well, you can't do that's not supposed to

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do that. I'd have to call somebody was part of
the conversion process. That's how I'm converting you. Like when
Bill Gates was buying out Homer, the Simpsons buy him
out boys, They just destroyed everything. The bubble. I never
thought it was a bad idea. I thought it was
an idea that sounded great in theory, but in practice
it was never be able to have it come out.

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It's like the idea of time travel. Like the idea
of time travel sounds awesome, right, Oh my god, we
can time travel? How do we do it? Then you
get into theories and quantum physics, and then aunt Man
gets involved in all these string theories and particles and
you go, Okay, what can you really is this? This
sounds like it's incredibly complex and still impossible. That's kind
of how I thought about the Orlando bubble, is that

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all these rules, how are you gonna do this? You
have the snitch line for people who are trying to
get on campus with cars that aren't supposed to be there,
people who aren't supposed to be who aren't if players
aren't practicing social distancing, it seemed overwhelming. But I'm a
convert now and the last ten to twelve days in
the United States has brought me to that because as

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we've seen the spike of coronavirus cases, and why did
coronavirus spike because enough people don't subscribe to social distancing,
don't subscribe to masks, don't subscribe to social distancing. People
are sick of quarantine. I get it. I've had days
where I'm just going crazy going I gotta get out
and do so, even if I'm going for a drive,
I gotta go somewhere. I understand that. But everything that's

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going on right now is an attempt to keep people safe.
It's not an attempt to politicize anything. It's we're trying
to keep everybody safe. But as we have seen, especially
people in their twenties and thirties, this is not a
situation which we have control of now, because it's not
that America opened up too soon. It's we didn't open
up safely enough. So if you are trying to say

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the the backs of of when sports open are gonna
be on twenty and thirty year olds making the right
decision every night. That's something that you can see as
being untenable because as we can see, you can't trust
enough people that we're still getting positive COVID nineteen tests.
There's still craziness out there, and there's ways that that
positive COVID nineteen tests are coming that don't have anything

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to do with it. Just so happens. You get it
because you were shopping, because you had to go shopping,
and you got it. There's certain things out there. The bubble. Now,
I now think this is the the new hope, the
only hope that you can play the season, because the
NBA needs to be in charge of it. And when
you have everybody under one roof in in in air quotes,
this makes it easy. Alright, we're gonna make sure that

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you guys are all say, if there's somebody over overseeing
you to make sure you are safe. And I get
the Kyrie Irving and look, I think it's a bad
optic if you have a lot of black men who
are supposedly now under quarantine or being held in one place.
I understand that part of it. This is about being
able to play in the NBA and play this season.
So I would hope that that would be overcome by

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the optic of we're all just trying to play the NBA.
Everybody's trying to we're trying to get the NBA back,
and everybody's trying to get back to what they do
for a living. So I would hope that would that
would over overcome that part of it. But that's the
only way because you compare the NBA to Major League Baseball,
It's like whoa baseball is in their own parks and
their own stadiums with everything going on, and how are
they gonna keep keep track of everything? You have too

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many variables that can under the equation. At least in
the bubble you are stopping the variables. You're not gonna
stop COVID nineteen. But in the bubble at least you
have the best chance to keep it at bay and
keep the NBA going. So I'm a complete bubble convert now, Yeah,
I I have the two thoughts on it. The first
to address the the optics of being quarantine at Walt

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Disney World, we're talking about generational wealth being earned here
and pushed forward. Right, you don't play this season, you
change the C B A. Moneys have to change and
that informs the next decade plus. So you get this
done here, not only you finished getting paid your money
for the year, and the money comes from the TV

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revenue and you push forward and the machine rolls on.
So for that it's a it's a smart business move
as well as an opportunity with the spotlight of the
world on you to encourage messaging as you will for
social justice, equality, economic reform, what whatever your platform may be,

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as determined by what people put on the jerseys. And
that's a whole other thing that will come up as
we go here. So talk about the cash considerations. That's
for the bubble itself. You and I have talked about
this a lot. There's the one part that I wish
they could go figure out how to get one of
those big patches. What's that stuff that you can get
where you can saw a boat in half and then
lather it on the bottom and it sticks together and

(10:46):
you go floating down the river. That's another two in
the morning when you're not looking at infomercial stuff on.
That's how that's how iron Man closed the uh the
ship in Infinity War when they when they killed the one,
the one bad guy you have at the kids see
More movies and then they shot him out of the
side like an Aliens and then that's that's how iron
Man closed that up. That's what happened. Yeah, I just
can't remember what the name of that. That product is

(11:08):
not that I'm gonna give him there, there you go,
it's it's the well I'm not even gonna give him
the name of the bayou so he he doesn't pay
me so he could beat it. But thank you, Iowa
saym for telling me in my year what I need
to know there. Uh, it will inform future purchases. But
if I can get that to seal off, what happens

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with the Walt Disney World staffers. That's the big problem
I see here. Once you get everybody to the bubble, right,
it's those last couple of weeks ahead of training camp
where craziness happens because everybody's got to get loose one
more time before they're lockdown. Same thing here. Once you
get to the bubble, I think there'll be enough activity.
They'll be gambling on video games and playing into the
wee hours of the night from their respective rooms. There's

(11:50):
plenty there. The problem is with the Walt Disney World
workers who get to leave and go home. So that's
where the system, I think needs to be fortified. And
we know they're spending some one hundred fifty million dollars
or they're abouts to get this thing rolling. Let's make
sure there's enough in the budget to do what we
can with with the workers side, whether they get to
stay in or resort themselves so they're on property and

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don't go home. And yes, it's sacrifice, but as Ted
d Bass once told us, everybody's got a price that
maybe there's enough financial incentive to where all right, not
only are you doing the altruistic the thing of hey,
helping the NBA come off for economic and for psychological gains,

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but also the idea that you get to play a
part in this and you're gonna get paid pretty well
to do so. Because them leaving each night, whatever testing
protocols and everything are there, you've still added another higher
coefficient to that variable as you put your equation together
to try to make this thing a success. That's the

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one part of the plan that is still to me
a little nebulous, but otherwise it's the best thing we
got going. So just to our shot. And that's the
only that's the only Adam Silver misstep. And all this
is that he comes up with all of this and
he and he lays it all out and we have
everything planned. We're crossing the tees and dotting the eyes.
Everything is good. Commission Are you staying in the bubble?
Oh no, no, I'll be going back and forth. Come on, man, really, yeah,

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you gotta be there with your board shorts and a
funky fedor and some zick the nose and get in
hip deep with everybody else. No. No, I'll be going
back and forth, and players have to be saying wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,
hang on, hang on, Hey, it's a commissioner can go
back and forth. Yeah. Yeah, I'll be in and out.
Don't worry. I'll see you guys. Then I gotta pop
out and I'll pop back in. Then I'll pop back out.
I'll pop back in. Yeah, that's the one thing he did.

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Extraordinary Jake Lazer, Jay, we're talking in the daytime? How
cool is this? Right? And you know, I'd like to
say that I'd be a lot cleaner for you in
the daytime, Um, but that's probably not gonna be the case. No, no, no, yes,
just just be who you are. Don't change for anybody, Jay,
That's what they don't change. Don't change for anyone. Uh So,

(14:43):
daytime j is not is not any any brighter than
than nighttime. Sam, I'm the same more on that, am.
I'm picturing you right now, like in the gym with
your hand out going hang on, I gotta do an interview.
Guys are getting ready to hit you and unbreakable and
you're like, hang on, just give me five minutes and
doing Oh you know, we haven't all times. So we

(15:03):
have figured out how to depths. That's what's gonna you know,
to be safer. We're gonna do it and we should
do it and no problem. Um, but now I'm just
home hanging out. Well, my little dog here nice all right,
Well look at you. Wow, you do you're you're doing
all kinds of great stuff. You just even just dropped that.
You know, you got your rescue dog. They're very nice.

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Oh my god, my rescue pit. Everybody in the NFL
knows her, this dog. This is the most forgiving thing
in the history life. She was a bait dog and
a dog fighting ring, which is if you know with
that is they take nice dogs and they got clo
keep their mouths shut and they just throw them in
a bait and then she was just just man just

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scoring execute them. They took my dog in an alley
and ran her over the car and people saw it,
called the police. Police came, scooped her up. Uh Anim
Hustles did surgery on her should broke her legs at
teeth all on her and then man. She lived in
the shelters are called the Amanda Foundation Beverly Hills, and
they kept her in there for three and a half

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years and eventually me and my son went in and
she chose us. And she is the most forgiven, beautiful.
Then anybody has a chance to go get a rescue,
please go do it. They will be the most grateful,
grateful beings on the planet. They're so incredibly grateful and
they will change your life. For more on that, you
hit j up on Twitter at Jake Glazer. That's at

(16:27):
Jake Glazer. Also all the great stuff he's doing at
vets and players dot Org. All right, so, Jason, NFL wise,
we saw yesterday we saw the NFL cut the preseason
from four games to two. Is this it? Because I
really went to see when it's all said and done,
it being really difficult for the NFL to say, Okay,
we're gonna play two weeks of preseason games. That could
put the start of the season in jeopardy. Could they

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be cutting it from two to zero? They could? You
know what kind of I think everybody's got to agree
on this, But This is a fluid situation. It's constantly
going to change. So they may make a decision one
day and then all and look at this. If the
virus continues to spread like this, they may have to
make another adjustment. Um. If also testing changes. And again
I can't answer the question because David did it changes.

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So j When it comes to the future of the NFL,
everything is still going forward for the first week of
September where they're they're on the stand. They plan to
report at the end of July. That's still that's still
a plan right now. Say's gonna happens and you just
gonna have to different team is gonna have to adjust
on different things. You know, here's the thing. Nothing's gonna

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look normal this year at all. So yeah, there may
be the different vant is. I know they try and
get everybody to have to be an equal footing, but
there may be teams generative disadvantage um because all of
a suddenre's an outbreak kind of team. It's just there's
gotta be other players readily available to go to in
case a large number of players just positive the night before. Um,
you know whatever, they have to go and expand the

(17:56):
rosters maybe they have to have another pool players who
just kept corn. I don't know the answer to it,
but I know a lot of things. There are a
lot of things that they need to discuss, and they
gotta stay, like I said, more proactive than than reactive,
but they're gonna have to also reactive, very very reactive.
And there's no there's no perfect answer. J what's the legality.

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You're not on a roster, you're not on a practice squad,
But say I I hire you as an employee like
on Montgomery Burns in the Simpsons, and I just have
a bunch of healthy bodied guys around just in case.
What the legality? What I mean, well, but I mean
from the league purposes, like would there would there be
any rule against that? Like, well, they're the team and

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then they get called up. Yeah, no, that's that's another
thing I think that you know, they certainly can discuss.
But or do you just you know, expand your your
roster's not fifty three guys and also expand game day ross.
I mean again, there's there's um. I don't know if
there's a perfect answer, So everybody's gonna have a different opinion.

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Jake Lazer, our guests here the Doug Got Leap Show,
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon in for Doug. Now your latest
mailbag in the Athletic UH spotlighted by the big decision
the NFL has to make about Antonio Brown. Uh. Now,
there could be big interest in him, But Jay, there's
it's got to be a lot of hoops that they
have to jump through first to get there, don't they. Well,
it's it's really nothing's changed, has been the same situation is.

(19:24):
You know, if he comes back, then they have to
decide they put him on the Commissioners exemple list. And
thinking about the Commissioners example list, if you're on it,
then that counts against your cap. If he's just outright suspending,
it doesn't. Don't believe it counts against your cap whether
there's not been a suspension yet or he hasn't been
cleared yet. But there are teams that are interested. Yeah,
there's you know Seattle. We saw them with the other

(19:45):
team Baltimore, it was reported on. And then there's a
couple of other teams also. I heard UM that are interested.
And I think there's probably UM probably a little more
interested this time around them. There was last year UM
and I don't. Maybe it's just because time is passed
a little bit and is not a whole crazy helmet
thing and um, but he's still involved in the in

(20:07):
the you know, in the in the sexual um, this
kind of case from last year. Now. I know earlier
in the week there were report there were conflicting reports
about Tampa Bay being a team. But you told us
a few months ago that that's not happening, and that
still isn't the case, right, No, no, not the case. Yeah,
Tom may know him, but Ja told the staff forever ago,

(20:27):
and that's all I kept telling everybody. Jay Glazer told
us Lockstep and we know that because of proof that
it is not happening. Now New England with Cam Newton
on the comeback trail, not a lot of money, but
here we go. Fantastic move, very patriots like fantastic. But
you know, listen, I've been telling you guys the whole top.
The biggest thing against Cam is that teams couldn't come

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in and pull on that shoulder and pull on that
foot and poke them and prod him. Um. And clearly
he didn't have a lot of interest because his contract
was very minimal. But I think camokna like, Hey, I
get a chance to go work with Belichick, and I
think this is perfect for them. And not only that,
how brilliant of for them to to delete the news
out like an hour before the NFL is putting it

(21:11):
out right, you know, the news is coming out that
they were getting punished for spikey two. It's so it's
so brilliant. It's just brilliant. Pr wise, well, maybe that's
why they signed him. Hey, this story is getting out
in an hour. What can we do? Signed Cam Newton.
There's so little risk here, it's all reward. There's nothing

(21:34):
but upside of here. He does nothing against your cap.
He just man, he doesn't play it. It's it, it's
you know, it's it's such a it's such a team
friendly thing. Um, I'm a little I am a little
shocked that more teams didn't try and do a similar thing.
It's Cam Newton, and I don't care that he you know,
didn't win his last and he's been hurt for two years. Uh,

(21:54):
it's still Cam Newton and man, considering the you know,
lack of quarterback talent in this league, I'm surprised more
teams don't do this. Well. The accompanying story is, hey,
they signed Cam Newton, but the Patriots love love love
Jared's did him? I mean, did they really love Jared's diadem?
Or is this just hey, we gotta say this because

(22:15):
we signed him. Do they do what if Cam Newton?
If Cam goes in there and he's you know, he's healthy,
and he shows he's Oh Cam Newton, so he's an
m v P. So you know it's um it's on
Stodhom to really step up and beat him out, and
or or Keaton keep mit Bay if you will. Bad
news for Smith though, Jay, because you know, the Jets

(22:35):
were looking all pretty and he was all excited about
Sam Donald and now he got put back in his place. Yeah,
I know right. And I was saying last week too,
even I thought the Bills are now the you know,
the front runners for that division, and then all they
go Cam Newton and look again, we don't know what
Cam is. He might be an unhealthy Cam's an unhealthy Camon. Yeah,
I kind of still looking the bills. If he's a

(22:55):
healthy Cam, um, then you gotta say, oh man, the
Patriot rug back there again. You can follow on Twitter
at Jay Glazer, That is at Jay Glazer NFL on Fox.
The website is Vets and Players dot Org. All the
great stuff he's doing there. Jay as always buddy, appreciated man.
And now you have to whole day free. Now you
have the whole day for you to go and you
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(23:17):
with us and stuff to that. I got MVP stuff
trying to get all our veterans out there this week
to celebrate themselves like we celebrate you guys. I'm fourth
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And look, the Cam is such a great, big unknown
with the Patriots that as much as they like Jared'stidham,
they can't love him that much because if they, let's
say he's our guy, well, then you're going out and
getting Cam Newton. There's a difference between going out and
getting a quarterback who could potentially play versus one who

(24:00):
can seize the job, Like what what the what the
Bears did with Nick Foles? Right? This is Mitt tells
Mitchell Drobiskie, listen, you've had your time and this is it.
And if you don't, we have a guy here that
can take the job from you. And we have you know,
he's done it before you've seen it. He's got the
track record. But Cam Newton is a guy that comes
in saying Cam could just win the job out right,
and and and that pressure of a young quarterback who

(24:22):
you're giving the first taste of exposure to play. You
want to put him in a comfortable environment. Your bisky
has been in a comfortable environment, has been unchallenged for
three years. He hasn't stepped up, So now let's give
him a little bit of a challenge and bringing Nick Foles.
If it doesn't work, well it doesn't work. It's different
because you bring in Cam Newton. Suddenly Stidham is looking
over his shoulder and he's, oh, all right. If the
Patriots were that sold on Stidham, they wouldn't be signing

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Cam Newton. And the fact they sign um says, okay,
we we have to protect ourselves because we like Stidham.
But just in case, are we But because if you
were a sold that you're not doing it. You know,
and any team that has the young quarterback they believe in.
The Jets are not bringing in Cam Newton, right, the
Bills aren't bringing in Cam Newton. Nobody's bringing in Cam
Newton if you have the guy you believe in. But
the Patriots do. So this tells you as much as

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they like him, they don't believe in stid him. And
this is why they got Cam. See, I'm gonna disagree.
I think with Donald and with Josh Allen, you've seen
them perform in long stretches with great success on the
NFL level. Right, Sam Donald finished this season strong after
seeing ghosts and battling Mono. I mean, that's comeback player
of the year kind of stuff. It was Mono first,

(25:27):
then the ghosts. All right, it ghost maybe just something
that was an effective model that we didn't know. Yes,
we didn't know that. Weeks later, Yes he saw ghosts. Yeah, well,
it's like the coronavirus. Sometimes we've got symptoms that we
don't have to put together until months later. All right,
you just don't know comparison, But okay, no, no, no, no,
because people are finishing and then it's like, oh wait,

(25:48):
now six months later, here's some other things that you
could put up as possible precursors. Come on, I I
read way too much about this stuff. Right, stuff we
thought were symptoms in Marcher are now by the way,
this this, this add this to your list. Uh. And
seeing ghosts maybe one of them. I'm not sure. But
with Josh Allen, whether you like him on the deep
ball and there's still roughness to his game, there's a

(26:09):
lot to like. With Jared stid Up, you've seen him
in practice, you feel good about it. I'll take the
analogy of I'm on the car lot and I've got
a nice, safe, reliable thing that I think we can
grow with this. My family could grow with this for
the next ten years. And then maybe a used car
rolls up. It's a little more of a sports car,

(26:30):
doesn't your eyebrow raise? Going, Well, we can fit in that,
can't we. It's only a couple of us, now, we
could do that. That's kind of Cam Newton. It may
be beat up, it may have had to have a
little bit of work done. Uh, And you're not quite sure. Uh,
So maybe you start thinking about that car a little
bit more. And with Cam, the other thing you here
is you're also playing defense, right, against one of your
would be competitors coming up and getting him. Like I said,

(26:53):
the other two's donald In and Alan. Those are the
teams have already invested in them, They've already seen them.
They know what can be done with Stidham. There's still
a little bit of a question. And as much as
you love him, if Cam can come in and be
the old Cam, you'd rather have the old Cam, right,
and especially on an incentive laden deal. It's the cost
is minimal unless he exceeds and and puts up huge numbers.

(27:17):
So you do that. Plus any of your would be
a f C rivals that could have made a use
out of Cam Newton, well now you get to flip
them all off while he's quarterbacking or at least sitting
on your bench. Kind of like a fantasy football move, right.
I'd rather him sit on my bench and rack up
stats and be on my bench rather than being in
someone's lineup scoring against me. Same thing here, real quick

(27:39):
on on j and And and the NFL preseason, is
that it's it's good to see the NFL bending a
little bit because up until now it's been you know,
we will fight the coronavirus like we have a sword
in a shield and they're a dragon, and we're gonna
do whatever we want to do, and and our calendar
is gonna go unabated. Canceling the two preseason games. They
kind of had to do that. No one's gonna be

(28:00):
ready to play a football game in a month. And
so when you couple that with well, where the world is,
I can't see how the NFL is gonna say, all right,
we're gonna play two preseason games, and the first time,
they're probably gonna have teams that are gonna be in
their own individual bubble, travel outside and go play somebody else,
and go play a bunch of other players and potentially

(28:23):
get a bunch of COVID nineteen tests that could jeopardize
the start of the season. You're not gonna do that.
Put them on planes, have them fly across country and
go play. Why would you do that? I think this
is a band aid, uh to get to no games.
I said that since the story broke on Monday, I
think we were gonna have two games. Now we have
two games, and eventually it's gonna get that to zero games. Yeah,
make it go away for one year, and and it's

(28:46):
a different evaluation process than we've ever had locally. Every
team can do specials and documentaries for how you fill
out the back end of the roster. For all I know,
it's a Willy Wonka lottery that stuff and chocolates. Whatever
the case may be. Yes, we just have to get
to the season. However, whatever band aid you have to

(29:09):
apply to do that, no preseason, most of the starters
from the but a huge number of teams the last
two to three years, with varying degrees of success. As
to how that predicts what the season becomes. You've seen
teams issue playing guys altogether. Here watch Sean Sean McVeigh

(29:29):
ruined the regular season. We're ruin the preseason. I don't
need to play anybody. We'll go to the super Bowl.
Oh well, okay, I guess we don't need a preseason.
Then copycat league, and certainly you'd already had it trending
that way with with a lot of teams really limiting
the exposure of their starters, so it was gonna be
different anyway. Figure out how you're gonna close out the

(29:51):
back end of the roster, and let's just get the
opening day. Unfortunately, you can all play a directional school
as a warm up like you do in college football,
and there's only one Jets and one Jaguars. Twitter. That's
all right, buddy, I understand where we are in the
pantheon of teams. It's it's okay. I've had I've had
forty some mighty years to get used to it. Twitter

(30:11):
at how about a frescup? Mike has swollen dome. Jason
Smith Mike Harmon in for Doug Gottlieb Today. Coming up next,
we have guests who guess what two time n c
A champion head coach wants the college basketball season pushed back.
We'll tell you who it is. Coming up next. This
is Fox. Be sure to catch the live edition of
The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter

(30:32):
noon Pacific. Jason Smith and Mike Harmon in for Doug
Today on the show. In time, we get you caught
up on some of the big headlines going on across
the country. To do that, we like to play a game.
What we got today? Gag? This is game time on
The Doug Gottlieb Show. What will it be? Iowa Sam Today?

(30:56):
Guess who? Alright, let's do it all right, Jason and Michael.
Guess who is new to Chicago and wants to be
quote the icing on the cake for the Bears defense.
Wants to be the icing on the cakes the Bears defense. Well, Mike,
since the Bears of your team, I'll give you first

(31:16):
shot at this one. You can't say, Mike Singletary trying
to think of who they brought in. He could still
get it done though, I mean he I bet you
he's nice and lean and if nothing else, he'll stare
you down. I mean, you added Quinn, but he's not
a verbal guy. Yeah, he's the only guy. Can they come?

(31:39):
He's the only guy they added. I'll stick with you.
I'll go Robert Quinn. You got it, Robert Quinn telling
NBC Sports Chicago. They already have the talent there. I
know what I bring to the table, and I know
what they had there already. With this formula, we can
do something special this year. I'm just trying to bring
the icing on the cake. Though, with it being Chicago,
wouldn't there have been in a more apt food analogy

(32:02):
somewhere in there, like the pepperoni on the deep dish pizza.
I'm gonna beat the mustard on the sausage. That's what
it's gonna be. A fold. It is gonna beat a bun.
We don't need troubisky anymore. He can be like the
grilled onions that fall on the ground. You're one of
those little sports peppers that we put on top, or
the neon green relish. It scares the hell lot of

(32:24):
people talking about Yeah, they gotta find a way to
get Khalil mack rolland but the problem is, I think
they in signing him. They put him in a room
and he listened to a bunch of Dave Wantstead tape
that sounds reily familiar to said years ago. All the
pieces are in place. Alright, is some chills. I wonder
what Mark Trustman had to say, Alright, don't even start.

(32:47):
I'm gonna jump through the phone line and and choke
you out into UFC match. Abe Gibbron perhaps anyway, guess
who has coached to college basketball teams to a national title,
but believe this upcoming season should be pushed back until January. Oh,
this is my favorite coach of all time, Rick Pettino,

(33:10):
who actually has a pretty good point. I think I agree,
And your your two for two. In a tweet yesterday,
I said, suggestion to the n C double a push
the start of the season back to January and only
play league games, buy some more time for a vaccine
and to get things under control. Although I can't wait
to be back on the sidelines, the health of my
players and staff is what's really important. Unquote. No, No,

(33:36):
let's let's get it on because all these different schools
USC announced hey, and most of the stuff is gonna
be online. Fine, let the players run amuck on campus.
They can still take their classes online, and yet they'll
be pretty much in their own bubble so they can
go to work. I look at it this way. You're
not really on a time. You don't have to start
the season the beginning of November. You can start it

(33:57):
later if you want to. You can play five of
games still having need that Marathon Oil game or April
Madness Marathon Oil. Do you know how many Merits Syracuse
Marathon Oil games I went to when I was no.
I think you can push it. I think you can.
You can easily do that in January and get a
lay of the land and see exactly how schools are
gonna be run for the fall. Semester one more. I

(34:18):
where we got finally, Guess who plays for the Raiders
and sees quote special times ahead for his squad. I'll
give you a hint. It's on the offensive line. Boy,
a Raiders player who's got special times ahead for the Raiders.
Richie Incognito still would have said he's got special times

(34:40):
ahead for the Raiders. Boy, see you had until you
told me it was it was offensive. Lie because I'm
thinking it's gonna be someone like Henry Ruggs, or it's Oh,
I don't know who wasn't said they have a special
times ahead, not Richie. I'll give you one more hand money, Oh,
Trent Brown, Here's John. Here's Jon Gruden's reaction. Rare pessimistic

(35:07):
reaction from Gruben. I sounded like straight out of a
few good men. Well, look, the Raiders are still living
freebee life because now they're getting to Vegas. No fans
are gonna care. Fans aren't going to care for the
two years. If the Raiders don't win, It's like they've
been operating. He's been operating with free money for the
past couple of years. That's two more. It doesn't matter

(35:27):
if they win. Now it's about being in Vegas two more,
I think that hang over. This is game time on
The Dug Gottlieb Show. Be sure to catch the live
edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the I
Heart Radio app Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith Mike Harmon

(35:51):
in for Doug today. This is your official eleven hours
to Hamilton's announcement. Eleven hours to Hamilton's and you look.
I was really surprised because normally when Disney Plus releases
something like whether it's Mandalorian or something else, they do
it at eight o'clock in the morning. Right, it's right
around eight o'clock East coast time they do it. No,

(36:13):
it's gonna be right at midnight. You go right at
midnight West Coast time, three am on the East coast.
So we're getting we're getting Hamilton's eleven hours. It's exciting.
Think you well, Mandalorian, you created and financed all the
way through this one. You had to cut a huge
novelty size check to lin Manuel Miranda and helpany to
get this to happen. So you want to get a
couple extra plays in and get that extra get that

(36:36):
money and subscriptions. Uh click andy, click click click rolling
on through, but no very excited here. We got to
introduce Hamilton's to a friend of my daughter's yesterday. Uh
and she got it in the strange way of two
daughters and me screaming out lyrics. It's like, oh you
didn't you didn't know this. It's like, well, welcome aboard. Uh,

(36:58):
here's our long drive. You are now going to us
to do I sing and run lines for the rest
of this car trip. You know, I wish I wish
is one of those shows where I could you know,
take from you go because doing the shows from home
now as most of us are, uh combination in the
shows in in the in the studio, from our from
our homes now here is if I could walk outside
of my office and walk into the living room, you

(37:19):
would just hear my daughter blaring you don't have the votes,
you don't have the votes. Ha ha ha. I'm like, oh,
my goodness, because that's exactly what's going on living room
right now. Because she's gonna want to stay up till
midnight tonight just to get it. I guarantee it. She's
gonna find some way to finagle delay going to bed?
Can I stay up until minutes? Like? Okay, it's not
like you can stay up until midnight and then go

(37:41):
to bed. It's you stay up till midnight. It's a
two and a half hour thing. We're gonna see. You're
not staying until to thirty in the morning. It's not
gonna happen, you know. Could you maybe stay down for
a nap? It could. Maybe I'll let you stay up
to midnight and you watch the opening song or two. Yes,
but then it's good. But then if I do that,
that's a gateway, because then it's a gateway only two
were Can we hear through Helpless? Okay? We can we
get through till the Battle of Yorktown. Oh we're already

(38:03):
at the intermission. Why don't we just hear the rest?
I mean that it's it's gateway. I can't do it. Well,
I got my crown in my cape, so I'm ready
for my uh my turns as king George later. I mean, look,
if we're gonna do this, let's do this right, full costume,
full regalia. I was watching some of the oldest clips
going all the way back to two thousand nine, when

(38:24):
a young, crafty lin Manuel Miranda was hanging out at
the White House and singing this and doing all the
parts himself, jumping around on the stage with just a
piano accompaniment, and uh, you know, it gets the blood
moving because we like creativity. That's what we are. We're
words Smith's and watching. I can't wrap. I can't do

(38:44):
uh you know, the freestyle. I can't do that to
talk about the NFL restart or the bubble. But I
can appreciate it and I'll celebrate it here. Uh you know,
I always love that with the bit of Linn Miranda
doing the rap for doing the song for President Obama,
because you tell Obama is just patronizing him and clapping like,
here's a song about Aaron Burr shooting Alexander sorry spoiler,

(39:08):
shooting Hamilton's because he does the line on the damn
fool that shot him. That's very nice, That's very yeah,
very He's gonna do it staring at me. He's gonna
do a musical about about about Alexander. Okay, whatever. I
wish him all the best of luck, yes, good luck
with that. You can tell it's just so patronized. Again, Yeah,
it's very funny. You have a funny lyric about shooting
about Aaron Burr being that guy. Yeah, yeah, and now

(39:30):
here it is, uh, you know, years later the phenomenon
has become and oh, by the way, just an idea
of hey, in why don't we shoot like a movie version.
That's just in case. I mean, who knows, maybe want
to do something, but at some point maybe we don't.
Who knows, And it's become like the Last Dance of
of of Entertainment. Now, oh, we're getting Hamilton's. Oh my god,
this is awesome, just like all that old footage from

(39:51):
Last Dance brought us this story. This is what we're
having with Hamilton's right now. Well, but this was a
all right, we're already printing money, but there's still a
lot of people that can't afford tickets on the secondary
market and miss out on the on sale dates, So
how do we turn their pockets out? And then Disney
came along and wrote a huge check. So then that

(40:11):
that's how this comes to be. And now you just
have to pay your monthly subscription to the service. See
how that all works. And now that you know, you
probably forget to cancel after Hamilton's, but you got it
for tonight. And remember that Remember that grand we had
to give to the director to shoot this. Yeah, that
was a lot of money. Yeah, Disney has given us
fifty million for it, so we'll make We're gonna make

(40:34):
that back now. There no expense And you start sounding
like John Hammond in Jurassic Parks. No expense. Welcome to
Fight Island. Uh So, today and yesterday really are big
celebratory days in sports, and there's not many. Look, it's
been a rough last few months, to say the least,
when it comes to everything going on in this country,

(40:56):
coronavirus wise and outside of it, but it's specifically coronavirus wise,
because we finally have been able to change a conversation
that we've had every day for three months, and and
you know, it amazes me. I don't want to say
the mileage, because it's not that we've been milking out
this story, but every day, the daily drama and new

(41:19):
bits of information we get is to when sports will return.
I don't think anybody ever foresaw that that doing this
for a living what we do. Okay, well, what are
you gonna talk about with no sports? How are you
going to struggle? We haven't struggled for many reasons. You know,
if you can get outside of sports like like like
shows can like we can, it's gonna be great. You know,
you're able to do things. But the daily question of

(41:42):
how close are we with sports coming back is nobody
saw the popularity of that, And by that I mean
that it's taking up all the the the talk on
the various TV shows during the day, on sports talk radio.
Every day there was a bit there's a bit of
advancement or lack of advancement from baseball, from football, from
the NBA, and it really has carried us through these

(42:04):
next three and a half months. But now today, Yesterday,
today tomorrow are three big days because now officially baseball
teams are reporting they started reporting yesterday where they're they're
going through testing now and the players have to sit
and wait for twenty four to forty eight hours, and
then Friday is going to be the big workout day
and they will hopefully be interviews and and more of

(42:26):
a pageantry of here comes major League Baseball. But this
is such a big Yesterday, Today, tomorrow because now we've
changed the conversation and instead of the conversation being every
day when a sports coming up. How is this going
We're and we're we're losing, going in a circle. Now
it's okay, we are going to see the practical applications
of coming back, and it's still gonna be the daily

(42:47):
how does baseball get by this? But it's baseball with
video of players working out and taking batting practice and
pitching and doing interviews and hearing them talk about normal
things like how so and so is gonna work coming
up from the miners, and how they think this picture
can win the fifth uh starting spot on the team.
You're still gonna get because it's still all about coronavirus
and how you play and how you stay safe and

(43:08):
going forward. But now we're getting actual baseball and we're
getting the teams on the field, and it's like I felt,
we had to get to these days to really because
it's a benchmark day to get to the next level
of conversation where sports really you can tangibly see them
coming back because all the talk before and even now
the NBA Orlando bubble stuff kind of sounds abstract a

(43:29):
bit that okay, because we haven't seen it in action yet,
and you have all these visions in your head of
what it's really gonna be like, but now the baseball
is here and we're gonna get to see it. It's different,
it's tangible. We've narrowed our focus now and we are
at the next phase. We talk about phases of the
country reopening. We're at the next phase of sports reopening.
Like we're phase one forever, alright, Phase one for so long.

(43:51):
Now we're at phase two. Hey, teams are showing up
and then phase three is when they're actually gonna be
able to play games. Move on. Can we get to
phase four in phase five? But we're in phase one
of sports for so long? Can you do it? And
now we're in phase two because you're seeing baseball teams
and you're seeing them report every day. A step forward, right,
some hard lessons learned along the way. Maybe you get
punched in the face and it's a step back. But

(44:14):
we've had momentum, right, different plans, all the different thought
bubbles and test balloons that went out there for baseball,
it was the same handful of writers all the time.
It's like everybody else just gave up and went and
played video games for a while. Uh. With the NBA,
we had a lot of silence and then okay, now

(44:35):
we've got our bubble idea and we proceed there with
the NFL bit by bit. Uh, you're seeing as they
make adjustments, but it's those are just still theoretical for
the NFL and for the NBA, And as much as
we like the bubble idea, and we think that version
four point two uh is the one that will work,

(44:58):
they're gonna be constantly to week yet. Right, there's the
MLS are there this coming week. There's gonna be learnings
out of how they handled or didn't handle things right,
quarantining players with positive tests and how that all works.
So we we had that with baseball. I got excited
yesterday seeing your arch nemesis Bryce Harper on the field. Right, Yeah,

(45:19):
I gotta say I was excited seeing Bryce Harper too,
and you know, you know how I feel about Harper,
you know. No, but that's a pretty big deal, right
that you could say, Okay, this is the first star
that we're seeing taking some long throws, swinging a bat.
He's got his his hair up like he's hanging out
with Liam Neesom in the Star Wars movies. Uh So, Ransom,

(45:43):
liamy you could have gone to anybody for long hair.
You went to Liam Neeson well because he put it
up in the quasi ponytail kind of a d did
he did? Man? But how many? How many other Man
bonds are there in the Star Wars universe? Uh? Oh boy,
I don't know. I'm sure there's a block for that.
I'm sure there's a block that you can find if
you go to man Bunt Star Wars Universe. I'm sure

(46:04):
John Ramos were on the board, he would know that
Iowa Sam that is not his forte. But when we
get down exactly there, there's just the the excitement of
seeing guys on the field and team by team they're reporting. Uh.
In Chicago, I know there's excitement because they also had
the announcement that some lucky few are gonna be able

(46:25):
to buy tickets to sit across the street in those
apartments that have built a little stands up there right
capacity And I have no idea what those are gonna cost.
Probably a pretty penny, but it starts to get the
appetite wedded for actual baseball. And likewise, those pictures of

(46:47):
Harper and him bringing up the rocky quote, right, it's
about how hard you can get up and keep moving forward.
And that's what we have to do every day and
try to navigate as we need to. Might be a
little redirect here and there, but the first sport, the
first team sport, is making their way to their their venues.
And if you're a baseball fan, hell even if you're not,

(47:10):
it is a positive sign for people trying to find
solutions to a very difficult, sometimes seemingly untenable problem. And
you know what we're going to get here, which is
really interesting when you when you break it down Jason Smith,
Mike Harmon uh In for Doug Gottlieb today is that
you are going to see the first two sports come back,

(47:31):
and they're gonna do it completely different ways. Right you.
The NBA is coming back in Orlando. Bubble right, we
had everybody together. We're gonna see if this works. And
as I've told you, I'm a bubble convert. I went
from this is a bad idea. You're not gonna be
able to figure everything out. There's too many moving parts
to this may be the best way forward because at
least you have everybody under one roof, per se and

(47:53):
you are looking out for them at all times, whereas
if you leave everybody to their own devices. Who knows
what could happen you introduce too many variables, and baseball
is doing it the exact opposite. We're gonna do. Everybody's
gonna be in their own home park, and we're gonna
be able to go out and they're gonna work out,
and everybody's still gonna get tested every day. But you
have the bubble idea versus the can we do it
how close to normal that we've always done it? And

(48:15):
that's gonna be the fascinating way. Which way is gonna
work better? Because I guarantee you all the other sports,
the NFL, college football, college basketball, everything else that's waiting
the winter sports that are gonna come in the fall,
they're gonna say, okay, what's gonna work? You know? And
and that's why I have no problem pushing the football
season and pushing the college basketball season, like Rick Pettino said,

(48:36):
because you want some time to see what works right.
You want toy okay, what works, what works better? Let's
let's get some time for the bubble to see if
that works or maybe Major League Baseball has it right.
And if football would push the beginning of their season
to the middle of October. Then you'd get to see
the practical applications of both of these, because if football
is still bent on reporting the end of July, well

(48:56):
what are we gonna get? Baseball will have been playing
for a grand total of three or four days, so
you're not really gonna have a lot to do there.
And basketball is still gonna be a couple of days
away from actually starting, so you're not gonna have any
any real data to say, Okay, this is what works
and this is what doesn't. Because whatever idea works the best,
all the other sports are gonna do. If the bubble
works great and the NBA plays the rest of their

(49:18):
season and Major League Baseball has problems, everybody's doing the
bubble idea and and and football is gonna be in
a bubble somehow, whatever they can do. Every Conversely, if
the bubble doesn't work and Major League Baseball is figured out, okay,
the the risk is not that big a deal, and
and and we we can trust the players. That's the
way everybody's gonna do it. But if you have football
starting everybody's reporting the end of July, there's no time,

(49:41):
you know, and and there's no reason why you can't
have this go the beginning from the middle of October
and on, because the thing about football is this is
that the only reason we think the football season is
quote in jeopardy right now or is up in the air,
is because football is bent on sticking to their time
law of we start when we want to, and we

(50:03):
we Everything we've done so far has been whatever the
coronavirus has going on, we're still gonna do our league's here,
We're gonna go through free agency, we're gonna do the draft,
we're gonna have the schedule ease. We're doing all of
these things. Now. They're bending a little bit with changing
the the preseason games from four to two, but football
is not under a timeline. They don't have to get
done by any time. They could start in December if

(50:24):
they wanted to. Yes, you would push the next league
year down a little bit, maybe you play twelve games.
But if this is to get in a whole season,
college football can start January one if you wanted to,
and you can play two and a half months and
then go right to the ball. You don't need three
weeks in between the end of the season and bowl
games or between that. In the national championship games. Yes,
you would compress the off seasons a little bit. But

(50:46):
the only thing that is that has the NFL and
college football season in jeopardy right now is their own
hubris and their own spite of we start and we
want to. Because if you open yourself up to, hey,
push a little bit, learn and then figure it out,
you we'd have a better chance of playing the entire
football season without any kind of starts and stuff. You
wouldn't be worrying about it. If you told fans right now, hey,

(51:08):
we're gonna push the start of the season to the
beginning of November, but we are playing. Fans would say, great, awesome,
we're gonna play. We got it. You're telling me, okay,
I'll be ready to start beginning in November, and everything
else can go according to In college football, you can
wait until the players actually get a chance and colleges
get back to come to campus. Can you actually have
people on campus usc is saying hey, we're gonna we're

(51:29):
gonna have distance learning from the beginning of school. Now,
give schools a month or a month and a half
to figure things out, and then you know, yes, we
can play, Yes we can have athletes on campus or
we can't. It just makes sense. But football is so
stuck in in their own this is how we do
it that you can't get out of your own way
if you decided to do that. There's no time constraints

(51:49):
for the football college football season, none at all. All. Right,
let me address the USC thing first. UH. Then they
and other UH universities across this country that want to
do distance learning in the fall. That's fine. That means
the football players can run amuck on a campus with
nobody else there and it's just them in their own
mini bubble which is as big as the campus. They

(52:10):
still do distance learning online and they get ready for
a football season, boom done. As for the rest of it,
you can't guarantee that they'd be ready in November. Right.
You can take learnings from the NBA, from Major League Baseball, apply, etcetera.
But there's still no perfect scenario here. Right. A vaccine
isn't a cure, and you're still dealing with a lot

(52:32):
more variables and a lot more players to that end,
in terms of how this game moves forward. So I
would like to think in the league office, in addition
to whatever other outstanding disciplinary measures are there, high Antonio Brown,
that you've got a number of different plans in place,
you might not be verbalizing them and putting them out

(52:53):
up for public consumption to be batted around like a
beach ball, like the NBA and Major League Baseball did.
A League Baseball was more just here's our labor battle,
but the NBA was how about this? How about it?
And then they went quiet, and then they came back
eventually with the bubble after weeks of rumor and tinkering
in the media, and everybody's starting to chirp about it

(53:14):
a little bit. So now we we have these systems
set up before the NFL. College is always just tricky
because every conference looks at football differently. Right, it's holy
in the South and and where we're looking the SEC world.
Uh here where we are in Southern California. I think

(53:35):
there's a lot of do we have to play? Do
I need to see these two teams in action to
some level? Uh Clay Hilton, uh and company and and
Chip Kelly as we get rolling. I mean, it's just
looked at differently. But all in all, you know, there's
there's no perfect way to go through this. Jason, so

(53:55):
I know, you want to minimize risk as you can,
but you can't stall forever. But saying so, I'm saying,
let's just let's just be smart about it and and
figure out a day when it can start. If it
but go to the beach on a rainy day, you say,
let's let's do it. Another couple of let's do it
when its sun is out. I mean, it's just it's
it's unprecedented times. We're in unprecedent. But we can't keep
saying all right, in another six weeks and then by

(54:18):
by time that that perfect spot hits, we might be
celebrating the next anniversary of Jaws next June m or
or by the time it hits, we were not having,
you know, forty or fifty new thousand coronavirus cases a day,
so there could be that too. It's it's look, a
lot of it's a risk, A lot a lot of
it is what to do? You know how to do it,
But they're but to think that you're under the time

(54:39):
constraints of it. That's the big thing. That's a big
thing that football, And that's why I'm glad they're a
little flexible with what's going on now and hopefully they
can be a little bit more flexible. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug Got Leave Show
week days at three p m. Easter Noon Pacific, Happy Thursday.
Jason Smith, Mike Harmon in for Doug Got Leave Today.

(54:59):
We got does the Fox Say coming up in a
few minutes. Got some big NBA stories to get to,
but there is no one better to talk NBA with.
And the man joining us now on the hotline. You
can follow him on Twitter at the Ryan Hollins. That's
at the Ryan Hollins. You see him on Fox, on ESPN,
everywhere else. It is the aforementioned friend of the show,

(55:20):
Ryan Hollins. What's happening man? How you been? What's up? Bros?
What's going on? Dude? It's been a minute? Man? How
you doing doing? Doing good? Man? Hanging in as best
we can? Uh, if you think about it, Mike, me
and you were going back and forth like a thing's
gonna shut down, We don't think so. Wow, that seems

(55:41):
a bit much. I mean, gosh, were we wrong? Operations
down on a whole other level? Oh man, Hey, has
any team called you to come be a filling player
in the ball Listen? I haven't gotten that phone called baby,
but by listen, give me a week, give me a
hot week, and I am ready all right. If someone

(56:01):
called you right now and said, how many updowns could
you give us? How many? How many updowns could you
give us? If if we signed you, how many could
you do? Oh? Up down? I mean I'll go till
I pass out like there is no number, and exactly
like the minso part of it, like the crazy part
of it is still in there. Okay, there's no number.
I'm going till I passed out like. And there's Ryan

(56:24):
Hollins who is completely passed out on the floor time out.
They want to talk it over as they pull his
body off of the floor. I don't think Hollans will
be coming back in uh. I mean that would be
got to stimulate Marv because he's not going to the bubble.
Not exactly what Ryan Hollins had in mind. Face plant,

(56:44):
that's how would be good. But so where are you
on the bubble? You know? I I gotta admit I'm
a bubble convert because at first I thought, how are
you gonna pull this off? There's too many moving piece
you know. Look, tomar de Rosen said today it's overwhelming,
it's frustrating. I get that. But in the end, Ryan,
I think like this may be the only thing that
lets us play because we need an overarching force like

(57:07):
the NBA to be looking out for all of the
players to keep them all healthy. And where are you
on the bubble? Hey, I'm all in and Uh, the
one thing that you can be assured of is that
the NBA has then in the n B p A
have done their due diligence of just saying how the
bubble could and and and and would work. Uh. And
keep in mind, there's so many sponsors of the NBA.

(57:29):
There's so many deals that are in playing and the
sponsors of the soul, NBA rights and television. You know,
think about Turner and and ESPN and various Gatorade, McDonald's,
various other outlets. Uh. So you want to make good
on those relationships and and and not just even beyond that,
I think about the beautiful relationships the NBA had met
because you know, think about U c l A under

(57:51):
armors talking about pulling out. You know things are going
on over there, but you know there's just understanding that. Hey,
COVID nineteen is happening, and we got to get back
to playing basketball. And I have trust in this system
that's going to get put in place so that we
can actually continue and playing. If you look at some
of these other leagues, the NBA bubble, maybe a bit
of a foundation to to take from. You know, we're

(58:13):
talking about NFL even getting started up and traveling, and
how is that going to work? So uh, this may
be the way that sports has played from here on
out at Lisa for the in the immediate future, short
term work into the bubble. Ryan, But we've got a
couple of guys that have opted out, a couple that
are still on the fans right We're still waiting on
Lou Williams and Dwight Howard. Avery Bradley is out. Um,

(58:36):
how does that sit in the locker room? As much
as people may say publicly, I understand he's got to
do him, is that really where it ends? Every every
reason is different, Everyone is completely different. Um, Trevor reason.
I play with Trevor good like brother of mine. Man.
I love Trevor to death, There's no question. And Trevor,

(58:57):
this is the month where he's with his kid. And
the one thing I know about Trevor, you know personally
for other reasons. Um, he does not play around with family,
he doesn't play around with kids, so uh for him
missing Uh, I think that's absolutely understoodably, so every Bradley
that that's a little brother of mine right there. Man.
I played in Boston with him. He as the heart
of a champion and and and everybody knows the way

(59:19):
he leaves it on the floor night and the night out.
This isn't like a lazy guy sloppy league, you know,
you know, getting up and down the floor in the NBA.
And his kid has respiratory problems, so you know he
doesn't want to risk anything there. So uh, there's definitely
understanding from teammates. You never want to get in another
guy's situation or another guy's pockets because that could easily

(59:39):
be you one day. But if a guy comes with
the reason that's not quite that valid or not understood. Uh,
you could have some star feelings towards a player, Uh,
in a in a locker room. So what about you
if it was you, you you were playing here in the
middle of your career and and and everything is going,
it's okay, it's time for you to go. Are you

(01:00:00):
you all in going? Are you going with reservations? Are
you not going? Where were you? If? If this was you,
You're here. Your your decision to go in and go
play man. I played ten years in the Association. I
was on a Boston Celtics team that you know, it
was a game away from going to the to the championship.
Please don't remind me. No, thank you, Lebron. That happened.
I was a part of the Lob City Clippers team

(01:00:22):
here and I know the goal is always to get
a championship, so I would I would be all in
on playing. I couldn't wait to get back to the bubble.
And the reality is a lot of these guys are already,
you know, have been training and kind of working out
or sneaking into gyms here and there. So you're really
excited for this for this season to end, and like
you know, like like like dude, like where is the ending?

(01:00:44):
Like we had all these amazing storylines, yann, it's out
to the Cooper battling Lebron for m v P. Uh.
You know Kawhi Leonard is he the king of the NBA? Uh?
The Lakers and Clippers five, and we started started heating up.
You know, Jayson Tatum over there for the Boston Celtics.
You know, you know he was surprised that a lot
of guys, Paul George getting healthy for the Lakers there.

(01:01:04):
There's just so much going on in the NBA that
you know, you gotta have a good ending. Man. When
when I when I talking about the ending? Uh, what
is somebody's volluing for what his game Game of Thrones man?
The last season the Game of Thrones? Man, We gotta
have a bank to this man, it was it's been
too good, baby, It's been too good. Ryan Hollands on

(01:01:26):
Fox Sports Radio. He's on Twitter at the Ryan Hollings
right now. You would get there, you would be excited
to get and there's gonna be some teams that are
gonna want to show up and be a little nervous ago.
You know what, We're not going the championship. I'm here
for eight games or eight games in one playoff round
and I'm gonna go home. How many teams are just
there to put in the appearance because they have to.
Out of out of the twenty two teams that are going,

(01:01:47):
how many do you think are just there? We want
to play. We're ready to go home. How many you're
there to say we're ready to go win the championship? Well, man, listen,
in our reality of realities, there's three teams that that
you can sit back and say legitimately have a championship
shot like we we would favor We feel comfortable with Milwaukee, Uh,
the Lakers and the Clippers. Uh. As far as the

(01:02:09):
teams who probably don't have a shot, I mean we
can point them out pretty easily, or the teams just
kind of going on vacation. And you know, we saw
Davis Burton say, yeah, I'm not sure about joining this deal.
So obviously the Wizards, the Kings and a handful of
other guys are just kind of going on going along
for the ride. Uh. And as far as you know
a championship, you know, I'll give you some teams that

(01:02:30):
I think, I believe they have a shot. They're going
all in and uh, you know, I've been a part
of those internal talks in the locker room where you
really feel like, hey, like it's us against the world.
I think the Miami Heat are so on to look
out for. We talked about the bout the Boston Celtics
a little earlier Uh, the Houston Rockets have really gone
all in on the championship. They got all in on

(01:02:51):
small ball guys, and you know, obviously small ball. You
make a move like that because you feel like it
gives you an edge, uh to go and win a championship. Um,
and let let me think of another team and another team, Oh,
the Eastern Conference, because I think the East is a
whole lot more wide open. Uh, the reigning champions. You know, right,
that sounds weird. You're like reigning the champions? Are you
talking about the Lakers? No? No, No No, I'm talking about

(01:03:13):
the Toronto Raptors. I think they've been defensively sound all year.
You know your minus Kauai and that's not a small minus.
But uh, those guys went went through the war and
they definitely had a part in the championship last year. Alright,
one more, I'm gonna take you back to the bubble. Uh.
And conceptually, if there was one question about how this
all comes together, that you could ask the commissioner, what

(01:03:34):
what's the one variable in here that you would want
to ferret out? How how how strict are we gonna
be on who gets in and who gets out? You know,
I was I was joking with a with a current
player yesterday and I said, man, I wouldn't be surprised
if Jack Nicholson was court side and that bad boy.

(01:03:56):
You know what I'm saying, Like I want like like
we're selling like exclusive tickets, like I mean, like my god,
I think about what that fan experience would be like
like Denzel you know what I'm saying, Like Drake Jamie Fox,
like like like these super fans, I forget my the
name of my guy who drives the old school car around.

(01:04:17):
He's got always the leather pants and the cowboy hand
and all that. You know, if I talked about I'm
forgetting his name. But like like a magic like are
we allowing super fans? Can you buy your way into
the bubble? Like how deep is this? You get the tested,
You're you're clear, like you know what I'm saying, Like
who is going to be there? So I'm intrigued of
what is it going to look like? And I talked

(01:04:38):
to a number of guys. There's this anxious feeling about
getting in and I understand it, and and then there's
this like a nervousness of what to expect in there.
But I feel a number of guys that they're ready, dude,
they're ready to get back and play basketball. And too often, guys,
forgive me if I'm wrong. I feel like we project
our own insecurities onto NBA players, and NBA players are

(01:05:01):
at least in their minds, somewhat bulletproof. And that's how
you have to be to compete in the NBA. But
looking at Lebron, look at a d look at look
at Paul Like, look at these guys like they're ready
to go and play basketball now. Now, lastly on this
just because like you you brought it up. I could
tell by your Twitter account you weren't the happiest to
hear Adam Silver saying I'm gonna come and go as

(01:05:23):
I please. You know, all the players have to stay. Oh,
but I'm gonna show up. Hey, I'll say hey, I'll
pop out, I'll pop back in. I can tell you're
not a big fan of Commissioner Silver saying that, listen,
here's the one thing. Hats all to Commissioners Silver, everything
that he's done. But I think this is a decision
that he's gonna have to rethink. Uh, he's either gonna
have to skype himself in in the beginning and show

(01:05:45):
up for the for the ceremony, you know what I'm saying,
Guys like like who knows, maybe he can, like, uh,
what's the on the futuristic movies that like the guy
has there's like a three D layout of him or
whatever hologram could We're like no, I mean, like seriously,

(01:06:06):
but like you can't. We're all blasting like who's gonna
be the idiot to step out the bubble and think
he's comes back and ruin his team's playoff chances, Like
we're all talking about that. Like myself and Brindan Haywood
were like, dude, there's no way that two thousand and
eleven Wizards team, you know, goes into the bubble and
doesn't ruin everything. You know what I'm saying, contaminates the
like we were joking on and it's like, dude, like Adam,

(01:06:30):
you can't do this. Like we're already like from the
media perspective, we're already drilling the players that say, don't
do it, don't be that guy. So like, Adam, you
gotta be in out in my opinion, and I understand
there's a business of basketball much further than myself for
you or anybody knows or things that happened. So I
just think as a uh or if you're gonna do it, Adam,

(01:06:51):
just don't tell us. Okay, go out to Mickey Mouse,
actually go off that exclusive bad boy and don't tell us.
But I don't think it was the best message, man,
because we're trying to corral these guys into you know,
respecting the rules and regulations of the bubble for everybody's safety,
and like I think, be honest, Like unless the player
has a pre existing condition, to my knowledge, they're gonna

(01:07:11):
be fine. But a lot of coaches and and equipment
man and assistant trainers, they're fifty sixty years plus, there's
someone down there that could be at risk. So you know,
the last thing you want to do. Man, we love,
we love the NBA staff. You don't want to put
anybody at risk by doing such. You can FOLLOWM on
Twitter at the Ryan Hollins that is at the Ryan

(01:07:32):
Hollands here and right here on Fox Sports Radio, Fox
Sports One. You can see a BSPN everywhere. Great to
get top with you, my friend. We'll talk soon. Thanks
so much hey for stuff fellas, see you great stuff
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(01:07:53):
I Heart Radio app. Jason Smith Mike Harmon in for
Doug today here on Fox. Got a big NBA story
coming up in a few minutes. But speaking of the NBA,
it's gonna be the big topic of our next game.
Take it away and now what say? This was Shannon

(01:08:15):
Sharp from earlier today on Undisputed. The best two way
player in the NBA might not be who you think
it is. Hell is supposed to be. No, No, you
can't be. How you gonna skip? He's game man. His
thirteen games, that's in the game they played first of all,
Yannis is the best two way player. Anthony Davis is
the second best two way player. Kauai skilled, ka Kauai

(01:08:36):
is not the same guy that he was prior to
that injury. He doesn't routinely take the best opposing player
on a nightly basis. He passes that. No, no, that
he passes that off to Paul George on a lot
of occasion. Patrick Beverley also takes that on occasion. So no,
he's not the best two way player. That distinction goes
to goes to Jannis. Anthony Davis is the second. But

(01:09:00):
a best player you don't know, You're not Ancren Ohio.
Is that right? Alright? So best two way player you
had a bit of a discrepancy right there. I'm actually
going to choose door number three because if you want
to go back and forth between Kauai and Janice, these
are guys that are going to hey when they step

(01:09:22):
up defensively. Look, these guys can play great. They've made
great athletic plays, and they they stay out of the perimeter,
they can sag down low. They're terrific. But as far
as defensive player, because Anthony Davis alters how you attack
the rim and attack the team. Because it's not just
how good of a defensive player is with his block
shots and steals down low. It's not just that, but

(01:09:43):
just his presence down low forces you to think about
different ways to attack the rim. So because he affects
it that way and attacks your strategy more. Because it
doesn't matter who has the ball, you still have to
account for Anthony Davis, whereas you know for Janice or Kauai, well,
who has the ball. Will that's the guy you gotta
worry about, you know, whoever has the ball, that's where

(01:10:03):
you have to make plan. Okay, A D is gonna
do X, Y and Z. Here's the best way to
try to get to the rack and get a hoop.
I'm going Anthony Davis. Yeah, I mean, when we get
into the two way, two way argument, it's awful difficult
to overlook Anthony Davis, right when you're talking about two
and a half shots blocked per game, plus however many
altered as you do those unofficial statistics along the way.

(01:10:26):
But you'll you take Davis and Lebron always gets his
mention there. You saw Shannon even tried to jump him
into the conversation earlier. Spots. Lebron picks his spots, and
because you see him doing in the finals, that's because,
oh boy, Lebron is what a great defense? Now, Lebron
kind of picks his spots and yeah, yeah, you'll see

(01:10:48):
it in the finals. If A d gets there, if
Janice gets there, you'll get more of an appreciation for
what they do because you will see them on the
biggest stage. You know that that's kind of where you're going.
We have yet to see those guys get there. So
that's what that you're gonna see that. But because you
see Lebron, ah boy Lebron. Now Lebron kind of doesn't
you know, not not all the time, remembers it was
on too long ago. He's being pushed out to play

(01:11:09):
defense in the middle of the right. No, so I
don't put him in as the two way. And I
like that he disqualified Kauai from the amount of games
that he took off. Still probably the best when he's on.
But I'm gonna go Yannese, rebounding game is up. The
blocks are at one per and just that length, uh,

(01:11:30):
makes you change up directions, make you make an extra pass,
and anytime you've got to have an extra touch, that's
extra chaos, uh by the opponent. You see how stifling
the defense was from Milwaukee. So give me Janice, especially
because he also gives just the best dad jokes on
the internet. So that yeah. And also let's just realize
it's not like Kauai has played in thirty games. He's

(01:11:53):
played over fifty games, you know, So I mean it's
not like he's barely playing. Now. He took some time
off and now he's over fifty's only a couple of
games behind where Yadie is at fifty seven. So but
you have had opinion of, oh, he just doesn't play
at all. Now he took a little bit of time off,
He's okay, it's enough to make you dis qualify him.
Here Twitter, and how about a Fresco Mike at Swollen

(01:12:15):
Dome coming up next, not one but two NBA bubbles.
We got the latest Fox. Be sure to catch the
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Welcome inside our three of the Doug gott Leap Show.
Jason Smith and Mike Harmon in for Doug today, and

(01:12:36):
I got a very special guest and his nine year
old daughter coming up in about twenty minutes. Gonna be
an awesome, awesome visit. But we have big news that
has just come in from the NBA. You're at Isaac
Lowan Crown talk about it a few minutes ago. Uh
Agent Walzarowski, ESPN senior NBA insider, UH put this out

(01:12:56):
on Twitter about twenty minutes ago that the NBA A
is not how it's it's like contact with Jodie Foster.
Not one way to travel, but two ways to travel,
not one bubble the NBA is gonna have in Orlando,
but the NBA is closing in on signing off on
a second bubble in Chicago for the eight teams that

(01:13:18):
were not invited to play in Orlando, so the Knicks
can go to the n I t of bubbles. UH.
This will enable many training camps and subsequent games against
other clubs, with a target date of September. Agent Roldarowski
and Jackie McMullan of the ESPN both having this story.
So mainly what it means is this, we're gonna have
the NBA play the rest of the regular season or

(01:13:40):
try to play the rest of the regular season and
the playoffs in the bubble in Orlando, and then in September,
the teams that were not invited UH to play because
you're too far back to make the playoffs, They're going
to have a mini bubble of their own to have
some kind of training camps and games against other teams.
So in theory, what this does is this makes it

(01:14:02):
equal footing for the team's not invited to be able
to have some time on the court to play because look,
let's face it, with so much time between the the
pausing of the NBA season and the restart, now, you're
gonna have a lot of teams playing in August and
and into September. So when the NBA does restart later
on this year for one season, these teams are going

(01:14:25):
to have more of an advantage because they'll have just
played more recently and these eight teams aren't gonna have it.
So this kind of levels the playing field. Now that says, okay,
we're gonna have these teams play here in August and September,
and great, here's a mini bubble in September as well
for the other eight teams, so they get to play.
I'm sure they'll have some kind of crazy ass championship.
Maybe the Knicks can win that when there's only eight teams.

(01:14:47):
Maybe the Knicks can win who knows, uh sophee in
the shape of a hot dog, it doesn't matter. Maybe
maybe you can down to three teams, the Knicks can win,
down to one team, the Knicks can win who knows.
But this is gonna gonna gonna serve as the that
equaling to the teams that are playing right now. Then
I'm sure, you're gonna have a shorter training camp when
the NBA does start later on this year. And I

(01:15:08):
would think in the end, the the NBA wanting to
start around the normal time. Hey, we're gonna come back
and play in November. I gotta think that's gonna get
pushed a little bit. I think we're gonna be back
to more of a December start for the NBA even
later because it sounds great and ambitious now, but you're
gonna pull this off, and you're gonna play all the
way through, and then you're gonna have the teams play

(01:15:29):
in September. You have these teams play here, and then
sudden you're gonna wait a month and turn around and
have another long, full season. That's a lot. You know,
players mentally have been through a ton, you know, in
the NBA and and and in other sports they're gonna
go through it as well. But Basketball, more than anything,
because the resumption of the season has always been you know,
what are we gonna do. We gotta stay in shape
and we're ready to play. And it's different from Major

(01:15:50):
League Baseball, where it's hey, we're hoping we're gonna play
and we're staying in shape, and we're you know, we're
throwing and we're fielding and we're hitting. But really the
NBA has been okay, we've been in pause for a
long time. Mentally, you're gonna need to give these players
a break. And that's why I think in the end,
it's gonna wind up getting pushed a bit. You're gonna
play in December, maybe even later, and maybe you wind
up with a brand new calendar. Right, you wind up

(01:16:11):
with a seventy game calendar, you start a little bit later,
and and that really stems the tide of where the
NBA was at, because you were at loggerheads with an
eighty two games season and teams playing back to back
and players basically just sitting out the front or back
ends of back to backs. The season has grown too
long in the NBA. The NBA has become a year
round sport, and so you're gonna need to actually cut

(01:16:34):
the games. So it could wind up being one of
those happy accidents where hey, we're gonna play seventy games
instead of a D two. Yes, it's less money, but
you're talking about regular season games. You're talking about a
better product. And when NBA owners have gone this long
without any revenue. Hey, we're back to seventy game a
year revenue. Okay, we're missing five or six games. B
all right, we can deal with that. We we can

(01:16:55):
deal with that if that's gonna make the players happy,
and the players are driving the bus on everything going
on in the NBA now, So I wouldn't be surprised
if if that was part of this chain reaction where
first Bubble in Orlando they finished, second bubble, they have
to push the start because they realized the players are exhausted,
need a break, need some time away back with their families.
We have a seventy game season, and that's what we

(01:17:16):
wind up adopting in full in future seasons in the NBA. Yeah,
I mean we've always been looking for that Christmas target date,
right is it's long been said ever since they shuttered
the Blue Gray Game. Uh yeah, that's right. My homage
annual lead to the Blue Gray Game. Uh and betting
on Christmas Morning that we don't get to do ever
since the NBA took that over, that seemed like the

(01:17:39):
obvious starting points. So maybe we get to that. And
obviously it's all the massaging of the local and national
TV rights and where the money's are and how that flow. Uh,
and we certainly have that sell more patches on the
jerseys maybe as well. But uh, for the second bubble,
it feels like that college football bowl game. Right, We're

(01:18:01):
only going to the one that's played on December eighteen,
So on the grand scale, it doesn't mean a lot,
but we get an extra month of practice. So let's
go and let's roll right. Free agency in the draft
and everything still have to play out, but you're still
looking at a core and if you have some younger
players at the end of the bench who haven't hit
many minutes, maybe you give them a more extensive look through. Uh.

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And look see here, uh in the eight team bubble. Now, granted,
the level of competition isn't fierce. They are the eight
teams that were left out for a reason, but you
at least get a little more of a look. See
I'm trying to do it with a straight face, but
that was well Listen, you get myself credit for that one.
But the thing is, none of the none of the

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teams who got left out or upset it being left out,
they're not making the play they were done. Look, Steve Kerr,
you can say listen, hey, bring the Warriors. You We're
gonna put everybody's recorded zero and zero and you have
And Steve Kerr would say, yeah, no, we're done. We're
not playing my guys. All those teams. We're having to
come and do some workouts. But that's it now. Look
that that's how it's gonna be. Every team that didn't

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get invited is happy because they're too far out. Look,
a lot of teams that got invited they go aren't
gonna be happy. And you're gonna shore a lot of
teams that are gonna go in there, and you're gonna
be able to tell right away. These are teams that
are there to play their eight games and go home,
or eight games and one series in the playoffs and
then go home. You're gonna see a lot of sweeps.
You're gonna see a lot of series. Aren't gonna go

(01:19:28):
seven games because it's not gonna be the back and
forth of Boy, they'll take these two at home, and
then they'll win these two at home. You're playing on
neutral courts. You're gonna be able to tell right away
the teams that are into to try to win a
championship and the teams who want to go home. And
that's why winning a title is going to be both
easier and harder in the bubble, because harder because you're
dealing with all kinds of stuff outside of just playing

(01:19:48):
the game, but easier because when the playoffs start, everybody's
all in, Hey, we can pull an upset, we can
do this, we can make this run. Many teams are
gonna say, you know what, we just want to show up,
play and go home and that's it, and we're done,
and we need some stressful relaxation of of what's been
going on and coming back in the nervousness that's being
built up with coming into play. So you'll be able
to tell that right away. And playoff series are gonna

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be short, and eventually we're gonna get to the cream
and the teams who really want to win, and those
will be the teams there at the end that they're
gonna be the Lakers and the Clippers and the Celtics,
and you know, maybe the Raptors and the Bucks. Those
are gonna be the teams that are left there at
the end, and the Rockets. That's who you're gonna wind
up seeing in the end. In the last couple of rounds,
because those are the teams that say we can win
a title. We're ready to go do it. Well. What's

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also the curiosity here is if we can inject some
truth serum to this whole thing of how many of
these teams have really actually been working out in groups already. Right,
It's can't just be the rumored lebron and a bunch
of guys at a rich guy's court, right, I gotta
believe you know, And and there were all those jokes
at the beginning of the pandemic of these guys don't

(01:20:55):
even have a rim to play on, so you have
to ship them gear. They don't have any weights, they
don't have any and he fitting his balls or bands
or anything else. I'm like, I'm not buying that. I mean,
obviously you have your facilities, and why spend your own
money on stuff when you can't. But I gotta imagine
there's a little bit of of stuff that had found
its way to players to get them ready. So you'll

(01:21:16):
have teams that that are all in and ready to
roll as the bubble opens up and they've been playing outside. Right,
We've've been talking about that for weeks as well. Guys
that were playing in pickup games at the park and
and hanging out and everything else. It's gonna be a
lot safer in the bubble, right, You're not eliminating anything.

(01:21:37):
You can't, as we've talked about, unless you're laying in
the corner of your house, no food coming in or out,
all canned and dry good from the basement that have
been sitting there for a while, and you've not gone
to get gas, take a walk around the neighborhood, or
done anything outside your house. Everybody's got some slight percentage
of chance based on where you've been the pharmacy, the groceries, door,

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et cetera. Likewise, the bubble for the NBA. Once they're there,
they're still probably safer than wherever they've been playing ball
and getting together. So you know, some of that will
be the sigh of relief, and maybe they're tired of
their families. Okay, I don't I don't want to be
that guy. I don't want to be that guy, but
I feel the need to be that guy. Say you
know what I'm staring at your face? Four months now.

(01:22:23):
I taught you English, I taught you math, and we
read a lot of Shakespeare together. You're breathing too loud.
You've been breathing too loud for the past three days
and it's really pissing me off. Okay, look, I and
and here's the other thing about the the second bubble
is that how many teams are gonna want to go?
I mean, do these teams want to go? I mean,

(01:22:44):
in theory they're gonna go. Well, it's an uneven playing field. Now, Okay,
we got another bubble for you guys in September. Oh uh, Well,
I'm not saying we want to do that. I would
just rather just complain that we didn't get invited and
not have to worry about the repercussions. I I don't
know they really want to go and do this in September.
So I wonder if you're gonna see teams that are
gonna want to opt out of the bubble in September two.

(01:23:05):
It's a group of guys showing up to play. It's
it's really it quasi teams. It's human. It's human nature
to feel that way. And you know, a bigger point
on both of these things that I think we have
to remember when it comes back to players who are
playing baseball and players who are playing in the NBA,
and and any athlete is that, yes, they make a

(01:23:28):
lot of money. And and and this has always been
at the root of of any sort of underlying jealousy
or hatred that fans have of players. Well, they make
the money, they should do this, they should do this,
they should do this. And yeah, okay, with great money
comes great responsibility. But just under from Spider Man, Well,
it's kind of a different spider Man, you know. I mean,
it would be a different movie if Spider Man was rich,

(01:23:50):
you know, just some rich guy, like if Spider Man
was Iron Man, you know, or Ben Affleck. What's your superpower?
I'm incredibly rich. But just to understand for a second,
think about every day our lives right now as we
try to navigate life through the the coronavirus pandemic. Is
that at your job, most likely your managers, your bosses

(01:24:15):
have figured out ways that okay, how you can continue
to work and social distance and do your job from home.
And we're gonna make it safe for you. And if
you don't feel comfortable coming in, we don't feel comfortable
coming in. Look here at Fox. That's what they did
right away. They said, listen, we're gonna get people, uh boxes,
so they can do shows from home. So if you
want to feel so, so you guys can all feel
safe and do the shows from home. This is this

(01:24:37):
is how we're gonna do it. And it's been it's
been great for us, you know, being able to continue
to do this programming every single day. We're very fortunate
in in in that extent, and anybody who has a
job that has allowed themselves to continue to do their
jobs from home are very fortunate. You know. Look, we
we we talked about what the unemployment rate is and
hopefully we get past this and everybody gets back to work.

(01:24:57):
But for people who are working through this buying large there,
their place of employment has been very not not I
don't want to say optimistic, but they've been very forward
and and understanding and doing a job remotely, doing it
from home, doing it so you stay safe, can take
care of family and work. Now, think about the NBA

(01:25:18):
for a second, where the NBA has been told, yeah,
because of what we do, you kind of have to
show up and come together, and we understand you are
putting your health at risk to come play, because that's
one thing the NBA can't say it that way, but
you really are because NBA players, you're safe at home.
If you're not going out, you're not doing anything. You're
safe at home. But now we're telling you you have
to work, you have to come in, you have to

(01:25:40):
show up here. We're gonna put you in a situation
that anybody in the country would say is unsafe. Dr
Anthony Fauci would say, whoa not social distance, saying, and
you're gonna have to play hard. You have to be
near people, you have to be breathing on each other.
You are gonna have to do this. You are putting
your health at risk to go play basketball. So under
stand for a second that they're being asked to do

(01:26:02):
what likely many of us are not. How do we
feel that Fox Sports Radio, if our bosses Don Martin
Scott Puro said, hey, yeah, we're going forward programming great,
but you guys gotta all come in and do your
shows like normal, I go, wait a minute, to the
country says we should be social distancing. Nope, you and
Harmon are gonna be three feet away from each other
like you normally are. You gonna work with everybody else
in the studio, and we're gonna have the update. Uh,
anchors are gonna be in and we have our producers,

(01:26:24):
we have our interns that we're gonna be in. They're
gonna be working just like normal. You would say, oh,
wait a minute, hang on a second, let's let's try
to figure this out. I don't know that I'm down
with this. NBA players, major League Baseball player, athletes, they
have no choice. They have to do this. They have
to go through this. So when you want to sit
here and say, ah, guys don't want to go play,
you guys realize that they're putting their health at risk

(01:26:44):
to go play. Yes, they're gonna be getting paid a
lot of money and they're gonna be in a resort
in Walt Disney World to do this. But they're asked
to do something that really hardly any of us are
asked to do, and that is put our health at
risk to continue to be employed. And that's a big
thing for them. Yeah, I mean psychologically, you've got to
figure out where that line is right. Also in what
you can afford expectations, family, team reliance, like, there's there's

(01:27:09):
a lot of considerations, right, we certainly don't want to
trivialize it or minimize it, and it's what I've argued
all along, Jason. Everybody reduced many people reduced the I
don't want to say everybody. I hate that word, uh
in this, but many people reduce the baseball fight to
millionaires and billionaires. But it's not. There's still people. They

(01:27:30):
still want some some data and some understanding of how
it's going to work and flow through, not to mention
the you know, millions upon millions of people that have
their work and their dollars and and financial livelihoods tied
to the sports and their well being as well. I mean,
there's a whole lot that flows out of those decisions.

(01:27:53):
So uh, it's it's gonna be curious to see as
we push forward, you know, what other variables present themselves
and how ready leagues are to make adjustments. But I
would certainly love to be the guy on the scene
in the bubble in Chicago when it's humidity in September,

(01:28:13):
twitter at out out of Fresco, Mike and swollen dump
he at humidity, You're gonna be lucky if we got
any kind of air conditioning going on at that point.
It's never We're never gonna make friend. We're gonna turn
a river green, just like we did on St. Patrick's Day,
just to make everybody happy for five minutes. It's how
we're gonna do it. The river is always green eight seven,

(01:28:35):
seven ninety nine on Fox Twitter at how about a fresco?
That was a big line from the fugitive though, why
is the river green today? Uh? Coming up next a
very specially, we're gonna talk football and we're also gonna
talk to this person's nine year old daughter. Keep it
right here, you gotta hear it. We're gonna do coming
up next. I promise you're gonna love it. This is
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(01:28:56):
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for Doug. Today and a big day in the NBA.
Will have some uh final thoughts on the second NBA

(01:29:17):
Bubble coming up in a bit. Agent wal Jarowski reporting
about forty five minutes ago that hey, the teams didn't
get invited to Bubble number one, get to go to
the n I t of bubbles as in September, Uh,
there will be a bubble in Chicago where the other
eight teams are gonna get to have a mini training
camp and get some time to play. And look, this
is a great idea because look, these eight teams that

(01:29:38):
need all the help they can get anyway because they're
the works in the NBA are going to get a
chance to play a little bit of hoops because you're
gonna have teams playing now in the bubble in Orlando
playing the rest of the regular season in the playoffs.
Before both bubbles are all thirty teams start their training
camps coming up later on in the fall. So a
great idea. We'll see what teams want to come play.

(01:30:00):
Hopefully the Knicks will come play. They'll be some kind
of tournament they can win. But all the Nicks, the
Knicks could be in a bubble by themselves and and
they would wind up coming in seconds. So there is that.
There's a bunch of jokes, but it is gettle of
the day, so I can't make them here. Just think
slide over Baby our kind of material. For those familiar
with Jason and My show in the evenings here on

(01:30:21):
Fox Sports Radio, but joining us now on the hotline.
We have not one special guest, but two special guests.
Our first guest former NFL or Ron Johnson. You can
follow on Twitter at three Ron Johnson. That's at three
Ron Johnson for Baltimore Raven right now. He is a
NFL and college football analyst for KA Fan and Fox

(01:30:42):
nine in Minnesota. Wrong, what's happening my friend? Much? Dude,
You're a fun You're a fun follow on Twitter posting
all those videos of your dad who played in the
NFL for a long time, and here he is, you know,
shutting down some wide receivers. Pretty fun scene you do that. Yeah,
you know, been fun to see the Steelers fans who
find those old clips because I mean I was around

(01:31:04):
six to eight the last time he played, so I really,
you know, I think back then, you know his handheld
cameras that had the huge reel around it, and you
know film that had to be developed in dark rooms,
and so I never really saw a ton of tape
besides whatever ESPN would play from time to time of
the seventy eight seventy nine Super Bowls, and that was
about it. So it's been cool for people to find stuff,

(01:31:25):
find different articles, uh, news clippings, um, and so you know,
I've just been keeping track of it, you know, saving stuff.
And I wish it was around when he was a
live so I could have told him after watching some
of that stuff, there's no way he could have got
because he swore to you know every day he would
have kicked my ass when I was a kid, and
you know, on the field, he would have punched me,

(01:31:45):
beat me up. And uh, you know, now I look
at it, I'm like, dude, like you were, you were skinny,
Like he was bigger and when I was a kid,
but when he played, he was skinny. I'm like, there's
no way you'd have been like Brandon Marshall just bought
him away from the ball, going, Dad, I'm gonna catch
twelve balls on you in this every game that twelve
Twells touch on you. Hey, NFL wise, now you know

(01:32:09):
a couple of big things I want to get your
take on here. Uh, the NFL preseason is now down
from four games to two games. I'm sure. Look, the
players love that idea. And you know, at any chance
you get to talk to the players around there, in
any any of the players there in Minnesota that Hey,
if you think they'll really like this idea, they want
to see it go down to zero games. What do
you think I think for the veterans, they're happy with this. Um,

(01:32:30):
the rookies are not. And I know you know a
couple of the younger guys that just got drafted via
interviews that I've done with them, one kid from Saginaw,
Michigan who's now in Minnesota, Viking. Um, you know those
guys want those games because game one, you know, the
the rookies and the guys that really are bubble guys
play a ton and in game four they play the
whole game because that's are like, you know, we we

(01:32:51):
know we made the team, and so that's kind of
their time one if they're not gonna make that team
to put more tape on film for other gms who
make that cut down to fifty three, and then they're
looking around for maybe three or four uh special teams
bubbles type guys that are gonna be you know, their
fifth d B or their six d B or their
fourth or fifth receiver. Um, you know that's their opportunity.

(01:33:12):
So I think it's uh, it's a split of maps.
Are like great, you know we don't have to go
through this. Uh, rookies are kind of like, oh man,
I risk time. So now it's gonna be strategic of
how they do it. But yeah, I mean I'll be
at C. J. Ham's house um on July fourteenth actually
selling bracelets. We'll talk about that later, but uh, yeah,
I talked to C. J. Ham all the time, and

(01:33:32):
I talked to you know, Adam Dealing from time to time,
Tyler Johnson, who's now a rookie going to the Bucks,
and yeah, I mean you get, you get both sides.
You get the guys whos O. They're gonna make a team.
So they're fine with it. But then you know those
guys that are coming in as a bubble guy, they're like,
you know, kind of cringing a little bit, like okay,
so how else get this stuff on film and let
these gms know, you know what we can do all

(01:33:53):
going out with jugs guns on their private fields and
doing workout right here. Look, I'm traded on in shape.
I mean, that's that's that's pretty much it. I mean
they're gonna have to like I just saw a video
today of Adam Deelan and Tyler Johnson. Uh, you know,
pet Chad Beatie and uh We gottaj Sharp they were
out there today doing football type stuff with that helmet on. Me.

(01:34:15):
You see Russell Wilson throwing balls, not Antonio Brown and
DK metcast you know. So it's gonna be guys just
trying to figure out ways to get some extra football
in right now because right now normal and me think
about it, we're normally in O T A s right
now and mini camps and guys are actually doing this
stuff with their teammates, and so now you cut the
preseason down even more, you know, guys are just gonna

(01:34:35):
be you know, thirsty looking for ways to create you know,
a football football atmosphere and get that full go type
stuff and put it on film. I mean there Antonio Brown,
we know exactly why he put that you know route
on camera right now. He wants GMS. He can still run,
he can still catch h So you know that's what's
gonna be. We're gonna see a lot of Twitter videos
that they coming up soon of guys out there doing

(01:34:57):
their drills showing how good they are just in they
don't make a roster. You know, hey, I put film
on Twitter. I don't know how good. That is. I
don't know how many gms are gonna take that and say, okay,
let's use this Twitter film. But I mean, this is
a new age we're in right now with COVID, who
knows how they're gonna have to scout Ron. If you
had you right now though, if you had to saddle

(01:35:18):
up and get ready for camp, would you feel comfortable
doing it? Me? Personally? Uh? I would? I mean I
think I would if the way and in my age,
I guess so if I'm like Gronkowski, if I'm Tom Brady, yes,
because I know what I need to do to get
to where I gotta beat. So I know exactly what drills,
I know how much I need to work out, what
my conditioning needs to be. Um, I think those those

(01:35:39):
guys are gonna be just fine. I think offensive tackles,
and this is a weird one to look at, offensive
tackles are gonna have a tough time because the game
speed of a defensive end coming at them full speed,
a guy like the nail hunter, you know, de Marcus
Ware type guys, You're not gonna be able to get that.
You know that timing down and so it's gonna be
real interesting early on. I think we're gonna se a
ton of three step drops from quarterbacks because I don't

(01:36:01):
know who's gonna be comfortable taking a seventh step drop
when you don't really know what your guys have been
doing where they're at, condition wise, mentally, where they're at,
because you know, we've had time to kind of sit
together and go over all our checks. I mean, when
I coach with the coachs for two years watching you know, uh,
Peyton Manning and Reggie Wayne and those guys put the
offense together in the off season. I mean they're not

(01:36:22):
getting that time right now. So it's gonna be real
interesting some of these younger quarterbacks or these newer quarterbacks
to these teams who haven't been there for years, who
really don't know how to command, to huddle or command
you know, go on the field and just say, I
know that's covered too. I know this covered four, I
know this cover six. Guy, whatever it is, you know,
you're gonna have the vets that can get through it.
You're gonna have these rookies of struggle one more fo

(01:36:43):
you get to our special guests, it's gonna join all
of us here. Ron Johnson, K Fan Fox nine football
analysts in Minnesota. Our guests here former NFL are with
the Ravens. How you played college at Minnesota. And there's
a lot of talk right now about Lee see all
the players who are getting COVID nineteen and how college
football seems to be pushing forward and kind of out

(01:37:03):
of the spotlight a bit. I get a little nervous
that college football needs a little more oversight right now
because you're talking about kids, and it seems like we're
gonna We're gathering everybody getting ready to go and and
I'm like, are you really gonna be able to play
a game in in six weeks? I feel like college
football needs it, we need It's been a little bit
more attention on that now, as well as what's going
on in the pros. Yeah. The tough thing about those

(01:37:24):
guys that they're going to school too, so football and pros,
you can kind of control them a little bit because
it's just home practice, home practice family with college kids.
Like you said, I mean, they're on campus, they're having
to go eat at different places, they're having to interact
with different people, and so yeah, right now you're seeing
like Clemson have a huge spike in COVID test with
their team, so Lord only knows what they were doing

(01:37:45):
down there. Um, you know the Gophers, I talked to
one of their coaches and they're trying to do like
a two day quarantine as a group and then bring
them together and then same thing, testing every day and
if anybody has it, trades where he's been quarantine those guys.
And yeah, so it's gon be. I think it needs
to be a ton oversight with college because these are kids,
you know, and the one thing about their age though

(01:38:05):
is age is fighting it. They're getting through it there
quarantine every fourteen days and then they're back out. Um,
so yeah, I mean they need to come up with
a plan for if a guy does have it, how
do you you know, deal with that? How do you
know did your teams don't travel? You have to put
out the guy in that meeting room all around him first.
I mean, it's it's just crazy right now. And honestly,

(01:38:26):
I mean, I don't I'm not saying as the answer,
but at some point it might just mean, you know,
all the football players, you know, kind of like the chickenpox,
and they just need to all be around each other
and then get through their two weeks and then go
play football. I mean, I don't really know if that's
the answer, not if that's safe or not, but it's
it's you know, I don't know how much longer we
can get through this without the staying the football seeds
needs to be canceled because that's where they're head. Is

(01:38:48):
great stuff from Ron Johnson and getting set to join
us now as we get away from football for a
few minutes here, uh, because now he's just gonna be
known as Cameron's dad. You know, that's exactly where you're
going now, because maybe you've seen Ron Johnson, heard about him.
Look obviously doing all stuff NFL wise analyst he has been,
but you've probably seen his name in the news because

(01:39:10):
his daughter, Cameron nine year old daughter of now former
NFL player Ron Johnson. Because before and when you saw
this on the internet, it was just, oh, Cameron's dad
said this. Now, oh hey, oh, her dad played in
the NFL. Let's put that in all the stories because
what Cameron and her family are doing is amazing. You
have probably read about her. She has raised over a

(01:39:30):
hundred thousand dollars for various charities in Minnesota selling bracelets
off her lawn was how it started a few weeks ago.
And you know, Ron, I know you said you thought that, well,
we'll make a few hundred dollars, it'll be great. But
now you're up over a hundred thousand dollars and counting
and all the different places you've given that money to. Uh,

(01:39:52):
can Cameron pop on with us for a couple of
minutes here? Yeah, she's right here. Hey, Cameron, can you
hear us? Cameron? You got us? Hi? Hey, how you
doing good? Hey? I want to say congratulations on everything
you've been doing. You've made a lot of money for
a lot of people who need it. That's awesome. Thank you.

(01:40:16):
Hey how did you come up with this idea to
sell bracelets? Like this? Um? We are on the driveway
making braces and my friend Sander said that we should
give them money to the people many apples and the
families and need Wow. That's a great idea. So are
you still you're still doing it now? You sit you
out on in front of your house and still making bracelets? Yeah?

(01:40:43):
Or is your dad taking you for ice cream right now? Oh?
You gotta get some fuel to to make more bracelets?
Of course? Oh yeah, yeah, we've we've got a morph
now we're doing pop up sales, so we stopped selling
in front of our house, and we've been invited to
various people's houses throughout the Twin Cities UM every Tuesday

(01:41:05):
and Thursday now who have wanted us to come out there.
So that's kind of a an exclusive Vikings running back. C. J.
Ham and his wife Um and another Viking that lives
across the street from them are gonna host us on
their street on July fourteenth, and so you know, we're
gonna do some cool things with some Vikings footballs and
some other stuff. But you know, it's just been a
community involvement which has been cool to see, you know,
all these people coming around her. Guys like Adam Feeling

(01:41:27):
center a video Um, his son Asher, and so it's
been a members ship half forever. Hey, So what are
some of the places you've been giving some of the
money to. So some churches, UM, we gave some money.
We've actually done some stuff with some social workers who
are working directly with families in Minneapolis UM through different
hospitals and different charity groups where we're actually letting them

(01:41:51):
go grocery shopping, sending us the receipt and then through
our five or one C three we're able to cut
them uh checks and then we're gonna work with the
Chamber of Commerce with some of those businesses and many
apolist once their insurance kind of lets them know how
much they're gonna owe and what the insurance is gonna cover,
we're gonna you know, put some money over there, and
so that's what we just started, Like two weeks ago,
we started a five or one C three charity charitable

(01:42:12):
donor fund in order to one and give people tax
breaks because like Little Caesars has given us ten thousand
dollars UM. Another group just gave us five thousand dollars.
We're meeting with Caribou Coffee Tragger Grills and so, you know,
we haven't officially gotten any word from them, but that's
our goal is to kind of continue on on this
path and just you know, put as much money into
the five one C three as we can so that

(01:42:32):
we can continue to help out. Um. You know, is
when we see fit. You know. But one of the churches,
we gave them five grand plus like three thousand dollars
in food UM to give out to people. Kyle Rudolph
the Vikings. He had a food drive. We dropped up
about two thousand dollars in food to his food drive. Um,
so we've just kind of been you know, as my
wife said, they kind of just hands and feet to
the community, just out and about making sure you know

(01:42:53):
that people know that we care and you know God
loves them. This is like the young CEO and all
that practical business acumen. Now look out world. Man. Hey, Cameron,
you realize you're smarter than your dad. Right, don't worry,

(01:43:14):
we've gone that route to Ronau. Paul Jason and I
have daughters that have far eclipsed us. Hey, I Cameron,
I need you to grow up and become president. Okay,
can you do that? All right? And and hey, and
and here's things when when you do become president, one day,
you and your friends and maybe Xander can be your
vice president since you know Xander was at the idea
with you. Um, when the Jets win a game on Sunday,

(01:43:38):
everybody is off from work on Monday. There won't be
that many days. I mean maybe just like three days
a year. You're gonna have it. But that yeah. Hey,
so Cameron, what's your favorite story? What's the favorite bracelet

(01:43:58):
you you sold to somebody that you can remember. Um, yes,
s she said, Harrison Smith from the Vikings. Harrison Smith, Yeah,
break it from her at the house and then she
started walking up. I'm sure everybody cleared out a little bit.

(01:44:18):
He's hearing a big hit. Well, I mean, the weapon
for the Tesla. A lot of people wouldn't even know
who he was. You know, when you show up for
the Tesla, everybody's like, okay, this has to be somebody
all right, right right, Like if you showed up in
like a Toyota camera, you would be I don't know
who this guy is, let whatever with tight bands on.

(01:44:42):
Oh hey, Cameron, congratulations on everything you're doing. And I'm
so everybody is so proud of you, and I know
your parents are as well, and your friends. Keep doing
everything you can and uh, hey, anything you need, let
us know and we'll we'll try to help you out.
But this is such a fantastic thing you're doing and
all the best success in the world. And I mean
that thing about President and I mean that thing about

(01:45:03):
the Jets, because when you are I'm gonna remind you.
I'm gonna send you an email and say remember the Jets,
that thing's gonna happen, all right, pressure now, oh my goodness.
Uh Ron, you guys run it. You have a website
or something that people can get to or or hit
you up on Twitter. What's the best way. Yeah. So

(01:45:24):
if they go to a go fund me and they
can just search Cameron and friends bracelets and they go
fund me will pop up. UM. They can also tweet
if they want UM and denmo they can venmo me
at Ron John Jr. Says r O n j O
h n j R. Three And if uh, if they
put a message on camera, wont to say camera with
the k go fund me UM. But if you put

(01:45:46):
in UM, like an amount you want to donate and
then just leave an address, they can make it a
private donation and then they can put their address. And
we actually are mailing out braces. We probably mailed out
now over a thousand envelopes UM to various people. I
mean we've sent to New Zealand, now, Japan, Canada, so
we've been Germany. So we've been getting them from everywhere

(01:46:06):
since we did Good Morning America and ESPN. I mean
it's been crazy. So I know Fox Sports is gonna
be even bigger, Like, it's definitely gonna be bigger. Uh.
The initiative is called Cameron and Friends Bracelets for Unity
and Justice and camera just want to say, I think
you've done enough for ice cream every day this weekend.
I mean starting today, Tomorrow's Sunday, even into Monday. I'd
say ice cream every day. That guy on the radio

(01:46:33):
said we should have ice cream every day, Dad, he's
a Jets fan. What does he know about anything? So
once we give her the ice cream, are you gonna
take care of her? We're gonna have the center so
you can deal with her hyper She's gonna be oh, sure,
that's okay, don't It'll just be more ice cream. It'll
be fine. We'll run some soccer drills and we'll see
if we can off listen. She'll be ready. Well no, no,

(01:46:57):
here's the thing. If you want to set her to
me for tomorrow, we can all watch Hamilton's you know,
all day because that's what we're gonna be doing. So
it's gonna be how so that's gonna happen. For any
information you want on there, you can follow Ron ask
him on Twitter as well. Three Ron Johnson the number
three Ron Johnson, four NFL wide receiver and now known
as Cameron's Dad for the rest of his life. Ron

(01:47:20):
has always appreciated my friend, good talking and uh we'll
talk soon. Thanks so much, appreciate it. Fox needs to
get me next to swollen Dome. We need to make
this a three way. Oh look at you. Wow, look
at that jumping right in there. Hey, we'll have you
on you guys, get me home every night, like every
night in Minnesota. I'm on kf Radio, so your show
of Fox Sports comes on. So I'm hearing you guys

(01:47:41):
all the time. The Fresca the the last five years,
coming from bikers games, that's been that's been my way
home with you guys. Oh well hey, well then when
you're on your way home, we'll talk to you on
the way home. A couple of times. We'll set it up. Ron,
thanks so much. Enjoy the weekend, and congratulations on all
that success. That's so fantastic. All right, thanks, alright, great stuff.

(01:48:02):
Then now we gotta have run on our show at night. Now,
we gotta have camera on. I mean that's what we have.
We have to wake her up and have her on
at night. Well, but you just made her you know
put president on her. Yeah, well, you know, let's let's
aim Low. What are you doing? We got more coming
up in ninety seconds, But first, Isaac Low and Kron

(01:48:23):
has what's trending? What do you have for us? Jason
and Michael A lot of new developments to tell you about.
Jason Read of The Undefeated report at a short time
ago that the NFL plans to play the song Lift
Every Voice and sing the Black National Anthem before every
game during Week one of the regular season, prior to

(01:48:43):
the playing of the Star Spangled Banner. Read also reports
the NFL's considering a variety of other measures to recognize
victims of police brutality, including listing their names on helmet
decals or jersey patches. Adam Schefter reports that, in an
effort to combat the coronavirus, and FL teams are likely
to bring fewer than the regular ninety players they ordinarily

(01:49:04):
bring to training camp, possibly in the range instead of
seventy or eighty players. Adrian war Janowski and Jackie McMullan
report that the NBA is closing in on signing off
on a second bubble in Chicago for the eight teams
that were not invited to play in the Orlando Bubble,
enabling many training camps and subsequent games against one another,

(01:49:26):
with a target date of September. Not many other details
are known about the Chicago Bubble at this time, except
that the Knicks will most likely still sneak back to you.
Jason and Michael. Oh, thank you very much, Isaac Crowd.
Of course that's gonna happen. Hey. Uh, that's why I say,
because I'm getting this in right now, coming up next
in the press. Sorry, Mike, but you know, hey, when

(01:49:47):
when news comes in, we gotta talk about uh news
on the next Nick's head coach. We got that coming
up next. Keep it right here. Jason Smith, Mike Harmon
in for Doug Gottlieb. This is Fox Sports Radio. Be
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Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. This
is the Doug Gottlieb Show on Fox Sports Radio. Jason Smith,

(01:50:12):
Mike Harmon in for Doug Today. Well, you know what
time it is. Now, let's do the press, the press,
all right, what do you got, Isaac Crown, what's coming
our way? All right? Jason and Michael Tom Thibodeaux is
the apparent front runner for the Knicks head coaching job,
and he just got an endorsement from a very important

(01:50:35):
legendary New York nick, Patrick Ewing, who said I had
the opportunity to to have him beyond the staff when
I played and also work with him. He's gonna do
everything he needs to do in terms of having his
team prepared to play every night. He'd be a great candidate.
So Tom Thibodeau getting an endorsement from Patrick Ewing from
the nixt head coaching job. He's the guy of all

(01:50:58):
the guys. He's the guy. Look, Chicago stunk Post Jordan
had him in the playoffs five straight years, right Minnesota
made playoffs in there in his second year. His specialty
is turning bad franchises around. So he's perfect because there's
nobody as bad as He's got a no nonsense attitude
that's gonna work. It worked in Chicago. He's a great
defensive coach. He develops players. Look, I get that the

(01:51:20):
players will clash with him, but I'll worry about that
after the winning gets old. You know, oh boy, we're
winning too much, and I'll worry about that later on.
He's the right guy for the next During about the
hard minutes and burnout along grind, the other guy would
be looking at his Mark Jackson. But I watched Thibodeaux
in Chicago. So long as you got the veteran players

(01:51:41):
to lead, uh, they'll they'll go a long way, so
you'll actually be respectable. During a zoom with reporters today,
DeMar Derozen of the Spurs express frustration at the protocols
in the NBA's one hundred and thirteen page health and
safety manual for the Orlando bubble, including the barring of
doubles ping pong. The ping palm thing is, like you said,

(01:52:04):
it's ridiculous. Um, guys can't do this, but we can
do this and and battle over each other. That part
just don't make no sense to me. And I got
through ten ten lines of the handbook and just put
it down because it becomes so frustrating and overwhelming. Yeah,
just like college. I did read a science book at
ten pages and I'm putting it down. I'm done. I'm
not reading anything else. I don't read anything else. You've

(01:52:27):
got ten pages in Yeah, it's science. I don't even
know what the hell is going on here Bunsen Burners.
I don't know. I don't know what this is? This
this this is what? What? What? What is hydrolysis? What
is this? Liking thropy? Whether I don't understand, I like that.
Bottom line is stay the hell away from each other,
wash your hands, and again, stay the hell away from

(01:52:48):
each other. When you're not on a court. Well, you
have to feel like it is something that the league
is on top of. It was just a one page
blurb of hey we got you, with a big signature
of Adam Silver. Everybody go, what the hell is the plan?
So I'm glad you got a hundred and thirteen pages,
even though some of it is minut shaw that maybe
there's a bill on page fifteen. Uh yeah it look

(01:53:12):
I've come around from the bubble being a bad idea
to being the only idea. We're gonna see sports going forward?
Twitter at how about a fresco Mike at Swollen Dome.
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