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July 23, 2020 • 111 mins

With Doug off, Dan Beyer and NFL veteran George Wrighster step in and tell you what college football will look like in 2020 after the PAC 12 will reportedly play a conference only schedule. They also share some surprising choices for the best young quarterback and head coach in the NFL. Plus, MLB Insider Mark Feinsand joins the show to preview the season before it officially gets underway!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:26):
is this is crazy. It's opening gay and Major League Baseball.
We've got scrimmage games in the NBA. There could be
some really good news for college football fans, but George
is most excited about boxing. Is this is this the
real deal? George? Is this is what we what we've
got on this Thursday July that boxing is the thing
that's got you most excited today? Yes, do, because because

(00:50):
no matter what, right, no matter what happens, I believe
the boxing event will take place no matter what happens.
And then the seconds it is two of my favorite
boxers of all time, Rory Jones Jr. Versus Mike Tyson.
And if you've seen the videos of Mike Tyson of

(01:11):
training right now, dude, he terrified me through the videos
like he looks in shape. This isn't this isn't sloppy seconds. Um,
Mike Tyson, this is this looks like the He looks
like the baddest fifty something you're old man on the
entire planet that the planet has ever seen. And I

(01:32):
was just watching Rory Jones highlights the other day, Dude,
I am all in. And then I found out that
Jake Paul was fighting Nate Robinson on the undercard, and
I was like, yes, this is this is George's day.
We're gonna get into the to that whole boxing deal.
But I'm telling you, George was excited. I don't know
if you if this compares to a Buster Douglas knocking

(01:55):
out like Tyson, but I think it could be comparable
that the Path twelve Conference maybe carrying the torch and
leading the troops into this pandemic college football season because
a report from earlier today from John Wilner of the
Bay Area Newsgroup said that the Pack twelve is planning

(02:16):
to enact a ten game conference only college football schedule.
In a couple of other details, the league wants to
be flexible with their championship game the conference championship games,
so that could be played on a couple of different
weekends in December. You would also have the ability, if
the conference chooses to peel back from the ten games

(02:39):
and also have at least two by weeks be a
part of the season that wouldn't start until mid September.
So that's kind of the the report, but the plan
that the Pack twelve would have going forward, George, when
you hear that as a Pack twelve guy, is this
a plan that can work in college football? It is

(03:00):
the perfect plan for college football. And I say this
and you can hear the optimism in my voice because
I have not been the voice of optimism for the
last few few weeks. Would you agree with that? Yeah? Yes,
let's say wavering around. You know, like you know, your

(03:24):
your head and your heart are saying two different things.
Maybe that's the better way to put it. Yeah. And
when you look at these conferences only uh put schedules.
The best thing that the Pack twelve plan does multiple
bye weeks. The championship game can be played on three
different weekends, so if there are cancelations that need to happen,

(03:48):
then you can maneuver around it. You can push the
season all the way back to October if you need to.
That way, we can get a full handle on things.
This is the optimal scenario. And I tell you I
was one surprised because the PAC twelve usually lags behind

(04:09):
other conferences and follows what they do. But being ahead
of this, ahead of the curve, because some of you
you've had Dan, the A, C, C, and SEC trying
to schedule other non conference games, especially the SEC so
they can wiggle out and still only play eight conference games.
And the way they can have two teams in the

(04:30):
top five at the at the end instead of playing
like real men um and and so the those teams,
if there is a cancelation or there's an outbreak or something,
they're gonna be nailed to those games. And having more
flexibility during this time, if we've learned, is the answer

(04:52):
I thought. And it's funny because I was even having
the conversation yesterday with my neighbor was a big USC fans.
Family is a big a big big Trojan fans through
and through, and we were talking just about college football.
And you know, I knew that it wouldn't start on
Labor Day. I actually thought George maybe in October one
start for this. But this does allow and I know

(05:15):
that that that the SEC has their eight conference games.
As you said, they only want to keep it at eight,
and they want to play they're not a conference. But
this also allows the Pack twelve two peel back, which
is easier to do than add on where we don't
know what's going to happen. It's just a lot easier
to be like, Okay, we're gonna go from ten, we're
gonna go from nine, We're gonna do all this. There's

(05:37):
a there's a lot to do to go with that.
I also think, George, and this maybe whack of dood o.
This may be crazy to think, but in in really
and trying to grasp how you're going to play your
your seasons. And I know the Big ten really couldn't
do this, and I know that the SEC couldn't do this,
and I know that the A c C couldn't do it.

(05:58):
But if you were the Act twelve, you could play
home and homes and even limit your travel more. I
know it's crazy to think that USC and U C
l A would play twice in a season, or you're
all the Mater of Oregon taking on Oregon State twice
in this season, but if you did that, if you
played within your divisions to limit travel more. You could
also still have a ten game conference schedule have a

(06:22):
true champion, because you would you would only be playing
games within your division. Plus limit the travel, which is
one of the biggest concerns that you have with playing
this season and then play your conference game. Okay, I
don't think that idea is crazy. So that's that's the

(06:43):
first thing. I don't think that's crazy. That's a plus.
That's that's good. I'll take that. I just don't like it.
The only reason why I don't is because if you're
trying to get into the college football Playoff playing teams
a second time, especially when of their conferences is even
in the Pact twelve, there's a big disparity between the

(07:05):
strength of the North with Cal who's gonna be good again, Washington,
who's the top program, oregons in there, you know, like that,
like that's a tough row to howe for for them,
compared to the South, which has usc who is the
odds on favor And the same thing would be true
of the of some other conferences, Like if you look

(07:27):
at the Big Ten the side with Ohio State Michigan,
that's a lot tougher than the other side with with
Nebraska Wisconsin, it's just not all these things are not
like the other. So I do like in the Pact
twelve plan, they have you playing the other five teams
in the North and then playing five teams from the South,

(07:50):
And I think that that's a great consolation prize for
not having nonconference games. Granted, you you would love to
see Michigan and Ohio State playing you're or teams, but
at least then you get almost a full conference slate.
Well then what are we doing here? I mean, are
we trying to win a college football national championship or

(08:10):
were trying to get a season in where there are
just um crazy circumstances that don't allow it. Like that's
that like you you really can't balance. And and by
the way, under the plan that is that is being
presented in the report, there's gonna be a South team
that Mrs Oregon you know that doesn't that that doesn't
have to play them, or you know, there's gonna be

(08:31):
a team in the North that doesn't have to play
USC And I think that's just as much of an advantage,
maybe not more when you're talking about breaking down your
standings when it could be down to a game. At
least this way, you would limit your travel where you
would only be traveling, whether it be in uh Utah
and Colorado, I know are the kind of the outliers,

(08:51):
but you would have the North just basically playing the North.
And that is basically how you could handle your season.
And I understand that you want to get into the
college playoff, but what is really the goal of the
season is to win a national championship? Or is it
to get a season in so you can support your
university and the other sports? That oh Dan, that was
that was a very PC way of saying, we want

(09:14):
the money. We're playing for the money. So are you
playing for the money to pump money through the state
of Oregon, California, what whatever it is, or are you
playing to win a championship? And and I say, if
you were going to play, if you're going to play,
at least try to win a championship. Let's let's not

(09:35):
just show up and just be happy to collect the
TV revenue. I'm not in on that because the reason
we're having a season though, I get it, but it's
that alone feels gross to me because the fact that
that so I sat on I testified yesterday too with

(09:56):
the s at the Senate Judiciary Committee on Name, Image
and and one of the things that they kept talking
about that Mark Imritt, all these are college players. We
want to preserve the integrity of amateur sports. And I'm like, no,
this pandemic is showing that this is amate, that this
is professional sports for everybody except the players. So the

(10:19):
fact that we're playing just for the money for everybody
else feels completely wrong. So it's like the only way
to right that wrong is to play for a championship.
That's the only way that I can like stomach, Let's
play for that put these kids out here potentially at
harm's way to pump money through the state. That just

(10:42):
doesn't sit well with me. I just I I I
can't believe that you would think that the sole reason
to have a season is for a college football national championship.
I am a idealist apparently, because I mean to play
this to try to go for this season. The the
isn't that where the rub of all of this is
is And and you and I've talked about it when

(11:03):
we do our Sunday show, But isn't it's just the
the fact of the matter that that college football it
it would be very difficult to bring only college football
back and not have the other sports right because you
would be saying, well, why are the football players able
to return but the girls soccer team, the women's soccer
team can't. It wouldn't make sense. It would seem like

(11:24):
you're putting the football players, uh, you know it in
harm's way. But we've also had college basketball coaches come
out and say we need to have an n c
double A tournament in the spring, like there is no
way that we can go a second straight year without
March madness. And I don't think that they're saying we
can't have two years with no national championship. They're also
saying it for financial reasons. And that's why I think

(11:46):
that we're doing it for college football for so many
reasons of just trying to get this season in. And
so when you think about the this this Pack twelve plan,
what are we really trying to do? Are we really
trying to position ourselves for a national championship or were
really trying to get these games in because they need
the money to do so. And I really think that
it's the latter more than the former Yeah, of course

(12:09):
it's about the money, but you you at least have
to sugarcoat it to try to make it somewhat palatable
for people. Your packed wall conference is behind the eight
ball if it would come down to a conference only decision,
because if if if you get an undefeated champion who
played ten conference games and it's and it's either Oregon

(12:32):
or USC they're getting in the playoff that there's no
question in my mind. And and and the reason why
there's no question in my mind is because USC is
a big enough brand to where if they go ten
and oh, that would have meant that they beat Oregon,
beat Washington who are already on their on their schedule,
who are going to be top twenty five teams. And
Oregon is uh in every poll, the top ten team

(12:55):
coming into the season. They have a ton of returners.
All of that, and Oregon after in a way that
they they they won they won the Rose Bowl against Wisconsin,
who was one of the best teams in the Big
Ten last year, and they have so much hype and
pomp and circumstance surrounding the team and what they have

(13:15):
coming back, and you know, they have some big names
that that's what gets you into the playoffs if you
have enough. I mean it's like if Baylor wins the
Big twelve undefeated, that's not the same as USC winning there,
but when winning the Pac twelve. But you you and
I know that then if you play a ten game

(13:37):
conference schedule, whether you play a team twice or not,
running the table is going to be very difficult. That's
gonna be difficult for Ohio State in the Big Ten.
It's gonna be difficult for you know, an Alabama or
an l s U in the SEC to run the
you know, to run the to add that extra game,
those extra games. You know, they aren't there normally for wins.
They're there for losses. And it would take a perfect

(13:59):
scenario of them to be unbeaten to obviously be in.
But if there's a one last scenario where you're comparing
one lost teams across the country, Pack twelve seems to
be behind the A ball and all of that. That
is the reality. Yeah, they were, they were they were there.
They were behind the ball last year. Yeah. But but
the difference is is that there is more I would

(14:20):
say that this year surrounding USC, and because they have
a quarterback, they got new and Graham harrows back at
the officsive coordinator Todd Orlando the d C. I think
that that lends it that the amount of hype coming
into the season is what the difference is, because you
can't say that the conferences quote unquote week uh because

(14:42):
you have two teams, and then the recruiting is supporting
it as well. So I think that those narratives are
beginning to shift, as they were different last year than
they were two years ago as well. All Right, I'll
believe it when I see it, but I'm not sure
this sounds a little pack twelve homers. George, I gotta
be honest and man facts only. He's George Rice to

(15:04):
get him on Twitter at George Rice Stir not only
a six year NFL VET, but also testifying in front
of the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday. We're gonna get to
that later on in the program. I'm Dan Buyer. Get
me on Twitter at Dan Buyer on Fox as we
are sitting in for Doug Gottlieb today here on the
Doug Gottlieb Show. Coming up next, we'll chime in with

(15:24):
a former NFL and college quarterback who can weigh in
on the changes that are happening in college football and
will the NFL season go off as normal that next year?
On Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch the live
edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m.
Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the Heart

(15:45):
Radio app. He's George rice Stir. I'm Dan Buyer sitting
in for Doug Gottlieb today on the Doug Gottlieb Show
here on Fox Sports Radio. If you want to find
George on Twitter, the six year NFL VET, you can
find him at George rice Stir. I'm at Dan Buyer
on Fox joining us now. He's your former NFL quarterback,
played his college ball at Oklahoma State, and weekly when

(16:06):
he joins Doug, he's either asked about college football, the NFL,
baseball because of his experience as a minor league baseball player,
or even a golf game. We may hit all four today.
Brandon Wheedon joins us year on Fox Sports Radio. Hey Brandon,
how's your Thursday going? Not too bad? I'm out here
actually on the golf course right now, just uh, kind
of kind of hacking around. Actually just made almost made

(16:27):
a hole one I got about four inches part three
here and uh so I got the crew waiting on me,
and and uh yeah, I'm here on the golf course
and joined joined my school day. A hole in one
is the question? Say it again? I'm sorry, have you
have you ever made a hole in one? I did
I have one? It was two thousand fourteen. Uh pretty good?

(16:48):
Was a five iron back in the win. So it was.
It was a good on Father's Day, believe or not.
So it was. It was a good one. Wow, that's
that's the way to go. I am. I am aceless
in my career. Hey, Brad, George and I were just
talking some college football because the PAC twelve came out
and reportedly has a plan to play college football with

(17:09):
a ten game schedule with multiple by weeks, with the
flexibility of having a championship game. If if you're if
you're a college football athletes and you you see this,
this change, does this this sort of this sort of
layout is that appealing for you if you're playing college football?

(17:29):
Is it? Is it all or nothing? What do you
think about this proposed PACK twelve season that would have
a ten game conference schedule with flexibility throughout. Yeah, I'm
I'm kind of torn because you know, I mean, I'm
like everybody else. I want I want college football just
like the rest of us. Um. But I mean, if
if you're going to tell me that the worst case scenarios,

(17:50):
we're gonna watch ten games and then all conference games,
you have a chance to play in a conference game.
You know, I think most people right now, with as
craziest things are, they probably take it. You know, so
you know, is it ideal? No? Um, you know, I
I'm still believer that I think the Big twelve and
Nexus here you're gonna play a normal schedule. I just
I feel that I feel like that's gonna take place. Obviously,
Take twelve and the Big Ten have already made the decision.

(18:12):
But no, it's not perfect. Obviously it's not perfect. But
um again, ten games is better than zero, and you
give yourself a chance to have a conference championship game,
and you know, whatever they do with bull season. You know,
if you're a young player, if you're a senior, I mean,
you know you want to get out there and play.
You know, you don't care if you know, sometimes those
non conference games, I know there's a lot of money
involved in those things, but sometimes you know, your schedule

(18:33):
is early in the year, you know, just to kind
of knock the rust off and play another opponent versus
you know yourself since you've been doing in training in
training camp. So long story short, it's better than nothing.
Is it ideal? No? But I think I speak for everybody.
Everybody just wants to see college football, no matter you know,
who's playing who. Yeah, what do you how do you
think that they're going to be able to determine a

(18:54):
champion if it gets too if they're able to complete
the whole season, you're gonna have the big team and
probably playing ten conference games set the so is the
PAC Twell, if the others will be able to play
as they will, how do you think that will ultimately
impact the coge football playoffs? Yeah, that that's gonna throw
a wrench in the plans for sure, because you know, obviously,

(19:17):
if you got some conferences which everybody says that SEC
is the best conference ball and they're playing a full schedule,
you know, how do you you know div you that
up against a you know, a conference is not playing
all their games, That's that's gonna be That's gonna be tricky,
you know, that's that's way above my pay grade. I'm
not smart enough to figure all that out. But you know,
hopefully there's some people that are. Um. I think everybody

(19:37):
in the country right now is just hungry for something,
you know, just they want to see sports on TV,
and especially college football, especially here. I'm an Okahma city
and you know, that's what we talked about every day.
You know, we're playing and we're not playing, and um
so I don't know. I don't know how they do
the playoff. I don't know how they do all that, um,
but I hope they find a way because, um, you know,

(19:58):
if you're a college kid that has an opportunity and
you came back for your senior year and you got
a chance to make a run at it, you know,
that's uh, that's where you came back to school and
you want to have a chance to win it all
and play for a championship, and so you hate to
take it away from those kids. Um, and hopefully they
find a way to get it done for him. Former
NFL quarterback Branded Lead and joining us here on The
Doug Outlet Show on Fox Sports Radio. No preseason games

(20:18):
for the NFL. Do you like that? Or not. As
a veteran player, I love it. I love it. You know,
I think I think the I think the preseason four
games just it's just too long in my opinion. I think,
you know, they need to cut that back a little bit.
Um But if you're a young player, you know, you're
an undrafted free agent, I mean, it's just I feel
bad for those guys. You know, they don't have the
opportunity to go out and you know, put a bunch

(20:40):
of stuff on tape, whether they get released by the
team they're with or having an opportunity to go somewhere
else and and get played. They got to kind of
rely on that college tape. And it's it's tough on
those especially young players, you know. You know, these young
quarterbacks have just came in with all these limited reps
and no o t A. It sounds like kind of
a kind of funky schedule for training camp. Obviously new
games to play. These young quarterbacks are behind a ball
and it's gonna be tough on him. So um yeah,

(21:03):
I've always been I mean I've always thought four was
was was too many. The fourth one. You know, as
you're as you're a veteran player and you're kind of establishes,
you know, just you know, you just try to get
to that thing without getting hurt, you know. In the
first one, note not the starters played, so it's really
just two games, and um you know, I think two
is plenty in my think. A lot of the players. Well,

(21:23):
actually in the other leagues, you've had baseball players opt
out and you've had um NBA players opt out of
playing playing their season. What percentage or how many football
players do you think will opt out because of the coronavirus.
That's a good question, um Man, I don't know. I

(21:44):
don't know. You know, it's it's tough because you know,
you hear about a lot of these guys and you know,
Mike trapped side of playing, he's got a baby on
the way. You know, a lot of these young families
and young kids and you know wives are pregnant. That's
where he gets. You know, it gets tough. Or you've
got you know, many moms and dad's grandmas that are
you know, have alien conditions. It's I don't know, I mean,
I don't think you can really you know, criticizing and

(22:06):
decides the to opt out, I mean just for for
personal reasons. UM, you know, uh, knock on. Unfortunately we're
still playing. I mean, you know I would, I would,
I would want to play and I want to play
balls what you're getting paid to do. Um, but you're
only gonna do so if you know the conditions and
the testing and everything you know is put in place
to protect and obviously keep the health of the players

(22:28):
the first first priority. Um, you know, and you gotta
hope that all these major sports leagues are going to
do that. So yeah, it's the number. I don't know.
I mean, I would say a majority of players are
gonna have no issue. They're ready to get going and
they want to play. You know. Uh, it's just hopefully
and keep those numbers of cases down so you know,
we don't get there halfway through a year. Whether we

(22:49):
call it football or the NFL, you have to shut
things down. That would be that'd be a worst case scenario.
All right, We'll leave you with this Brandon Weed and
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's George Riyster.
I'm dan fire. What was the club that you hit today?
How far was the whole and did your buddies give
you the four inch pot? So? How M'm about I'm
kind of on the car path, but I just burnied

(23:10):
number seven in the whole. I just just we just
came off of our hits about five six ft made
it so in our game, you gotta you got a
valid at your skin. So hit didn't hear too. It
looks like the ball still there. But yeah, we got
all kinds of action going on close to you know,
you got all kinds of money, so you know, knowing them,
I'm sure it's good, but they're probably just probably just
jack with me a little bit sure. Sure, how what

(23:31):
was the hoar? Yeah? So it was one six one
little down win hit oh oh one six yard pitching wedge.
It can only dream, Brandon, good luck on the pot.
Thanks for the time. I'll talk to you next week.
Thanks so much. Thanks you guys. Be sure to catch
the live edition of the Doug got Leap Show week
days at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. He's George

(23:53):
ry Strop Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug got Leap today.
By the way, George, an issue that I had yesterday
with the NBA with the scrimmages. I have the NBA
League Pass and was not allowed to see the other games.
That were going on that day yesterday, outside of the
Clippers Magic this Bucks game, which I obviously would love
to watch. Apparently it's streaming only because it also does

(24:16):
not come up on NBA League Pass. What a rip off, um,
Antonio Brown, you bought How crazy is that you buy
the NBA League Pass to not be able to watch
NBA games? You know, like you bought it at the
beginning of the season. You think that they would do
everything that they can to make sure that it's up
and running right now. Unfortunately it's not. So It'll have

(24:38):
to be a Blazer's Pacers for the time being. Is
buy backs, buddy, because all now, all those regional sports
networks and all that they're getting all this uh this
this buy back money. Yeah, this is this is getting
real funky right now. I told the guys yesterday I
may demand a refund at least for partial part of

(24:58):
my League Pass. Even if it's four I'll take it.
But the I think somebody owes me something. Antonio Brown
thinks of the NFL owes in him something he has demanded,
and he used the word demanded a statement that he
posted on social media that the National Football League provide
him clarity on his situation. He said, quote, the fact

(25:21):
that you refuse to provide a deadline and the reason
for the fact that you won't resolve your investigations is
completely unacceptable. This on the heels of him unretiring. After
retiring earlier this week, Antonio Brown has beef with the
National Football League. George Rice stir I am one hundred
thousand percent in agreement with Antonio Brown on this. He

(25:46):
could not be anymore right. He said it eloquently, and
he is like, he didn't ask for a positive resolution
for himself, He just asked for a resolution. The fact
that the NFL has held this man in professional purgatory
for a year is insane. I mean, this isn't They're

(26:10):
not investigating Watergate, They're not investigating, you know, high crimes
by by some political person. No, you are investigating. Even
though you are not an investigative arm a an adjudication
entity like the like a police force or a court
or a judge, you're still going about this and the

(26:33):
fact that you don't have a resolution is is completely wrong.
And granted we can argue about what the resolution is
after it comes, but just to leave him in limbo,
that means that teams can't sign him that even if
they want to, they don't know what the outcome is,

(26:53):
and the fact that they won't do it is completely
bush league. The fact of the matter with Antonio Brown,
as he has made um, he has made mistakes in
his career. In the investigations that we reportedly heard of
him speaking with the National Football League, seemed to be
uncooperative in those matters. But to your point, I think

(27:15):
you're right either one way or another. If you're gonna
hold it against him that he was uncooperative, then just
don't allow him back in the league. Just be like,
all right, we're you know, you're suspended or you're on
the commissioner's list. You're not gonna be able to play
after you know this amount of time. But too yeah,
to just not know the answer. I'm actually agreeing with
you on this because it's pretty crazy. Um. Antonio Brown
has been back and forth on what he wants to do.

(27:37):
But the NFL, at least in their defense, does have
other things of of interest right now on their plate
to try to figure this out or to try to
figure out their season, So I would at least give
them a little bit of a break considering the situation
that we are in and just trying to figure out
if we have a season as opposed to whether Antonio
Brown should miss six, eight, ten, or sixteen games or

(27:59):
or as many games it could be in the in
the edge of his career. I'll give the NFL a
little bit of a break on on this one, but
in essence, for as as for as many different ways
as Antonio Brown goes about things, it would be nice
if he actually had an answer, because I do think
the Seahawks would be an interested I don't think that
it's just just all smoke that he and Russell Wilson

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get along. The Seahawks offseason has been one of of
a very very few headlines. I would also say, um,
maybe not improving as much Greg Olsen and Carlos Hide
coming in to try to help that offense, But otherwise
it's been pretty low key for the Seahawks and they
would probably would love another target for Russell Wilson even
if they only had Antonio Brown for eight games of

(28:43):
that season. And that's a totally biased take as a
Seahawks fan, you can tell I can it there. There's
nothing wrong with that fan stands for is short for fanatic.
You are supposed to want. I mean, really think about
the concept you because there's a lot of people who
will scream at you, Oh what about this person? He

(29:03):
may have done this, he may have done done that.
As a fan, your job is to root for a team.
You have a vested interest in that team doing well.
That means that you want the best possible players on
that team. And I have said it for years upon years.
The worst thing the league does is get in legal

(29:25):
fights with its players. And it's done it with Tom Brady,
it's done it with Ray Rice, It's done it with
a bunch of other players as well. And that turns
fans because you're like, why are you guys fight? Like
aren't you guys on the same side. But I have
also just been vehemently against the league acting like adjudicators

(29:47):
like that they have to be the moral police on
a lot of these issues, because at the end of
the day, sports are entertainment. You are your job is
to entertain people and at the same time try to
win as much as possible if you are an owner,
to make your team more valuable and all of that.

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So if a player is not currently not not even
not under investigation but not in jail. I am okay
with them playing. Well, I'm sorry, go ahead now that
I'm just okay with them playing because you are presumed
innocent in this country until proven guilty. So until somebody

(30:28):
has proven guilty, it doesn't really matter what the courter
public opinion says. In the entertainment industry, like this is
not the moral police and trying to uh like, act
like you're investigators when that's the police, detectives, FBI, and
CIA job. It's just backwards to me and and and

(30:49):
and along those lines. That the NFL did find something
that uh they didn't like, then I'm all for then
then you know, then ban him and don't have them
played for the Seahawks. I'm cool with that if that's
what their investigation fines. But it's just you want you
want that answer, and I think that and I know
that's what you uh you know, we're saying at the
start of it. It's not whether he is guilty or

(31:09):
innocent or did this or didn't do it. Just give
the guy an answers so then all parties can end
up moving on. Than he's George rice Ster, I'm Dan Buyer,
I couldn't have said it better myself unless George said
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(31:30):
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(31:52):
Doug today. Glad to have you with this. George, the
six year NFL veteran, also UH an alumnus of the
University of Again. Top of the hour, we talked about
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(32:13):
where you will find that. That's where you will also
find all of the other great programs here on Fox
Sports Radio. Uh George. At this time of the day,
Doug usually likes to I don't know, I'll change it
up and have some fun. We call it this is
Game Time. Side on the Doug Gottlieb Show. We bring

(32:37):
in our anchor Isaac lowing Kron, who's at the news
desk with all of the latest. Isaac, what is the
game today? Let's see what do we got there? Ramos felt.
That means that we're drafting teams that are gonna win
the World Series. So we're gonna go in order, round

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by round. All call out your name, and then you
pick the team that you think is going to win
the World Series, and the winner of our draft lottery,
going first, our beloved executive producer Ryan Music, all right.
A lot of pressure here, a lot of teams to consider,
and I'm gonna stick a knife into the heart of

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several people on this current staff by taking the Los
Angeles Dodgers. Way to go, Way to go out on
a limb there. The next pick belongs to Isaac. Can't
stand Isaac, but here's his pick. My pick is anybody
but the Astros. All right? George all right, says the

(33:47):
Dodgers are taken. We're gonna go with the New York Yankees.
George Rice Stir has the next pick. You guys took
both of the teams that I wanted. I wanted my
lawyer's so I am going to go with well, actually,
I'm gonna go with the sneaky pick. I'm gonna go
with the Philadelphia Phillies. I was gonna pick the Astros,

(34:10):
but that's another story. Alright, John Ramos, you're next. Well,
since you guys took my Yankees, I'm gonna go ahead,
and uh, I'll take the New York mat Okay, good
pitching and h some young hders, and I think they
got a chance. I would take the met haven't heard

(34:31):
that being said about the Mets for the last thirty years. Alright,
And the final pick in the first round. By the way,
I'm really a jerk in this segment. Here is Dan Buyer.
H let's see. You know, there's a lot of a
lot of good teams that are still available. But I
am going to say this. I think it would be fitting,
very fitting in a season where fans aren't allowed to

(34:53):
tend to attend games that the team that wins it
never had fans showing up in the first The Tampa
Bay Raise. Tampa Bay Raise will be my pick to
wrap up the first round. All right, let's get one
more round in if we can last pick of the
first round, what to Dan Buyer. And the first pick

(35:14):
of the second round goes to Dan Buyer. And how
about the bleep you for the Houston Astros. Give me
the yes, let's get gross. They they made cheat, but
they still have talent, they still have pitching. Uh. They
are definitely one of the top teams in Major League Baseball. Actually,

(35:36):
I think it's pretty good value to get them at six.
John Ramos, who previously picked the Mets up, Sorry, go ahead, John,
I did. And since Dan took my Astros, I'm gonna
go ahead and take the Cleveland Indians. Remember, all right,
Well it might be a new nickname by the by
the end of the season, but we'll put you down
for Cleveland. Now here's George Rice's next pick. He previously

(35:57):
went with the Phillies. I have the best value team
from the same division, Uh, the Atlanta Brave. Alright, the
next pick belongs to me, and I'm going to go
with the This is a Dan dan Buyer pick. He
picked the Tampa Bay Rays with no fans. I'm gonna
pick the Miami Marlins. Oh. Interesting, final pick of the

(36:21):
Draft comes to Ryan Music, The Angels like that baby
Halo Baseball. This is game time on the Duck Gottlieb Show.
I don't know, if you ask me. I think Isaac
was kind of fishing when he took that Marlin's pick.
That's just me. He's George Rice Stir Dan Buyer. Yeah,

(36:43):
don't worry. Puns come from tree. You should have five kids,
because that was a dad Joe. That was terrible dad job.
I thought it was pretty good, but hey, that's just me.
He's George Rice Drive, Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug Gottlieb.
Coming up next, who is the best young quarterback in
the NFL outside of Patrick Mahomes. We'll tell you. Be

(37:04):
sure to catch the live edition of The Doug gott
Leap Show weekdays at three pm Easter noon Pacific on
Fox Sports Radio in the Heart Radio app. In about
twenty minutes, we're gonna get a preview of the upcoming
Major League Baseball season with that breaking news of Juan
Soto of the Nationals testing positive for COVID nineteen. By

(37:24):
the way, in our draft that we just had of
World Series champions for in our ten picks, amongst the
five of us in two rounds, George. No one picked
the Nationals to repeat. So there's that mode, like a
third of the roster is gone. Oh hey, they still
have Shures or they still have Strasburg, but still nobody

(37:44):
wanted to touch them. Nobody to hit though, Yeah. Yeah.
And if if you don't have Juan Soto and Anthony
urn dones and an Angels uniform and they come, U
become a little bit more challenging for the Nationals. We'll
see if it's more challenging. Seven o'clock Eastern time tonight,
as they open up the Major leag Baseball season at
home against the New York Yankees. We're gonna be talking
with Mark finesand of the MLB Network in twenty minutes.

(38:06):
I want to talk to about NFL though, to to
start this, uh this hour off, George, because The Athletic
did a poll among subscribers asking them a variety of
questions about the NFL, asking them what rules would you
like to see changed, which head coach would you like
for the next decade, and then one of the questions

(38:28):
was which young quarterback would you choose for the next
decade for your team? And there's no surprise whatsoever that
Patrick Mahomes easily won this uh this balloting with eighty
three per cent of the vote. What is else voted for?
Anybody else but Patrick Mahomes? Well, this is other young

(38:51):
quarterback would you take besides the dude who's in his
who in his third year one Super Bowl has an
m v P is the best player in the lead.
I mean, who else would you vote for? Well? This
is This is what I think is interesting about this
because there are five other quarterbacks that also received votes.

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And these quarterbacks that we had that were listed, I
think some maybe maybe chosen because the subscriber was a
fan of that team, maybe they went with that guy.
But the the quarterbacks after Mahomes went like this. I
was not surprised that Lamar Jackson received the second amount

(39:35):
of most votes. He received six point seven percent. Then
Joe Burrow of the Cincinnati Bengals, who was yet to
take an NFL snap, was third at three point seven percent.
Deshaun Watson was fourth at three point two percent. You
had Kyler Murray five at two percent, and then Baker

(39:57):
Mayfield at one point two percent. You did not have
Sam Donald, There was no Josh Allen but Baker even
getting votes. Um, I was a bit surprised. Even though
I don't want to give up on Baker Mayfield's career
after just two years, I still think that there's a
lot there. I wasn't surprised, George, that Lamar Jackson did
receive some votes, but I was a bit surprised that

(40:19):
Deshaun Watson was so low. I was a bit surprised
that Kyler Murray was so low. And I was a
bit surprised that Baker Mayfield received votes period, just because
of how it's gone in these first two years. And again,
I'm not quitting on him, but I'm just surprised that
people still have that much belief in that them wanting
him to be their quarterback for the next ten years. So,

(40:41):
if so, how this potion actually look is is Patrick
Mahomes should have eighty nine point one percent of the
votes because you can keep the sixty seven point at
the six point seven four Lamar potentially Ravens fans who
just enjoy his style of lay, and then you can

(41:02):
keep the three point two percent of Texas fans. But
you can't. You can't, like no rational person can say
that they want Joe Burrow as their quarterback for the
next decade. He hasn't even thrown a pass in the NFL,
hasn't even thrown one pass. And Kyler he's in a

(41:22):
tough division, But you would take Kyler Murray over Patrick
Mahomes get the hell out of here, and Baker Mayfield.
This is only his family voting his family and friends,
because nobody with a of same body in mind would
take Baker Mayfield over DeShawn Watson, Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes. Like,

(41:45):
you cannot be of sound mind and say that you
voted those that that that's that one point two percent
error that they count for imposed where that those are
miss clicks, Dude, those are people who were whose fat
fingers Like I have come on. But sometimes because I
do it, I got I got big old, as my

(42:07):
kids call him, sausage fingers. Sometimes I hit the wrong
button the the Yeah, I'm I'm surprised that with any
of these options, I think that you would likely go
over Baker Mayfield. But again, I don't want to make
it selling I'm hating on Baker Mayfield. I just don't
think when you're looking at this pole that you would
sit there and say from what you know. And that's
maybe the thing about Joe Burrow is because there is

(42:30):
so much of the unknown. Patrick Mahomes got eighty three
percent of the vote because we just saw him win
his Super Bowl and he won an m v P
this season Before that, Lamar Jackson got some of the
votes because he just won the m v P and
then the Ravens to the best regular season record. Like
there's there's there's reasons that you can you can point
to and say, Okay, I can understand why he got
a vote. It's difficult for me to do that with

(42:51):
Baker Mayfield. It's the Joe Burrow aspect, I will say, though,
and watching Joe Burrow and seeing him play and and
I know he's not super mobile. You're not gonna be
running running plays for Joe Burrow. But he can move
and he can get We saw it heck throughout the
season at l s U and in the College Football Playoff,

(43:14):
of his ability to to escape the pocket, to do
damage with his legs and when he's dropping back to
pass George Okay, this is I know this is gonna
be blasphemy, but the way that he stands in his
stature and maybe just the way that he looks in
his uniform does remind me a bit of Tom Brady.
It does. And so so when you look at him,

(43:37):
when you look at it, how he looks in the uniform,
how he stands with the mobility of and I would
say that he probably uses his legs like Aaron Rodgers
um where where you're not designing runs, but you know
that he can get you what he needs, at least
when we're talking about a guy who hasn't thrown a pass, right,
I know that, I know that, but red a coverage,

(43:58):
rent a defense, and like, how can you choose? Like
he can't be an option? This isn't He isn't Cam
Newton or Andrew Luck when they came out where you
where you're just like, wow, Cam Newton is such a
phenomenal talent that this is like can't miss. He may
not be a Hall of Famer, but this is like

(44:18):
the like the floor is really high, Andrew Luck, the
floor extremely high. The worst thing you were gonna get
with Andrew Luck when he came out was a ten
year starter. You're gonna get a chance at a Super
Bowl and all that provided he stayed healthy and and
you're gonna choose Joe Burrow, the a one hit wonder

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so so far. This is like the NBA Draft, where
if a guy stays too long in college, you think
that you know too much about him, you'd rather take
the unknown prospect who maybe just it was coming from
overseas or played one year in college basketball. You'd much
rather take that guy because you're looking at potential than
maybe what you already know. On Watson is the perfect

(45:01):
example in all of this. I think Deshaun Watson as
the capability of leading the Houston Texans to a super Bowl,
but there's also the question or whether he's gonna stay healthy,
and then there's also the question of whether his team
is really gonna provide him with the pieces to be successful.
And so I think all of those questions come into
place when it comes to Deshaun Watson's numbers, at least
Joe Burrow, and I will will say this about the

(45:22):
Bengals as well. The talent around Joe Burrow and Cincinnati
is it's not bear A. J Green is gonna be back.
You've got Tyler Boyd, You've got Joe Mixon. As you're
running back, there are pieces you didn't have your first
round picking Joah Williams last year as an offensive lineman,
so the cover may not be as bear in Cincinnati,

(45:43):
where if you look at the Texans, you look at Watson,
maybe you're throwing up all these different red flags and
and maybe that's a reason why Joe Burrows ahead of
a guy like Deshaun Watson or Kyler Murray. So I
I just I can't necessarily fault it, but I'm just
surprised Baker's on the list, and and I'm maybe not
as surprised about Joe Burrow getting three point seven. That

(46:03):
sounds that that is all home or talk. Those are
those are people who who who are Raiders fans or
Chargers fans or Broncos fans who just refused to vote
for Patrick my Homes And like, I'm not voting for him,
no way, no how, he's our division rival. Throw him,

(46:24):
throw him in the trash. He stinks anyway. We wouldn't
we wouldn't want him. I wouldn't trade I wouldn't trade
Drew Lock for Patrick Mahomes for anything. Got zero percent
of the vote, So I was should well, let me
let me then ask you this, because there was another
question in this poll, and and I think I mentioned

(46:45):
at the beginning, but if I didn't tell, I'll say
it now. They also asked the subscribers NFL coach for
the next decade, who would you want as your head
coach for the next decade? That is, the current NFL coach?
Who do you think won that that voting? Uh? Well,

(47:05):
actually know the answer? Okay, well that, then go ahead
and say it, but then tell me who you would
want to win the voting. Um. So they had, Sorry,
they had Kyle Shanahan at forty nine and a half percent.
Kyle Shanahan, who's blown to two Super Bowls. Even though
he's gotten to two Super Bowls. One is the head coach,

(47:26):
one is the officer coordinator. UM. Sean McVeigh seventeen point
two percent. Yeah, who, by the way, is accomplished more
than than Kyle Shanahan and his head coaching career. I
will say that Brian Flores for the Miami Dolphins ten
point nine percent, Sean McDermott for the Bills ten point
six h Cliff Kingsbury six point six percent, and Matt

(47:50):
la Fleur five two. Dude, this is easy work for
a met I the the only person off this list
that I would like definitely take is Brian Flores, and
he got ten point nine percent. And the reason why

(48:11):
I would take Brian Flores is because that that's not
to say I don't think that Kyle Shanahan is a
good coach. I think he had one of the all
time great defenses last year. UH Sean mcmt McVeigh is
obviously a good coach. He's been to a super Bowl.
But you gotta prove over the test the time. But
but like you said about young guys and young coach,

(48:34):
young players where people get excited about him. I was
excited about Brian Flores what he did with the Dolphins
last year because after the first three games, we thought
the Dolphins were going to be go over sixteen and
be one of the all time worst teams in NFL history.
He got that team to play hard, he was able

(48:56):
to win with uh fits magic and and like, I
just love the way he inspires the players around him.
So I think that his teams will ultimately be successful
long term. So I would take him, But I mean
out of the people chosen, but I'm like you, I
would take none of the above. I would take the

(49:17):
I would take the oldest coach in the NFL, that
would be Bill Belichick, sixty eight years old. And I agree,
that's what I was gonna say of the guy that
I would take is not on this list. And I
don't care about the age of and these are young
head coaches and and fairly new head coaches. But for
the next decade, if you don't take Bill Belichick, there's
something wrong with you. Even if there is six years

(49:39):
of those ten years, if Bill Belichick says at seventy four,
I'm gonna retire, gonna hang them up, I would still
then bet those six years at the ten years of
any of these. I'm shocked, like super shocked that Cliff
Kingsbury got six point six percent, But then I shouldn't
be shocked. National football like this is and and they

(49:59):
actually were better and than I thought they were. But
I just don't think that there's any way that you
can sit there and say for the next decade, after
just one season where the Cardinals for a good half
of the season, we're getting blown out in the first
half and then we'd be able to come back and
put some points on the board. I can't believe that
Cliff Kingsbury got six point six percent of the vote.
I think he did a great job last year and
and and overshot the expectations that I had for them,

(50:21):
But to put him on this list of who you'd
want for the next decade, I was surprised he received
that many votes. I think that this is more. I
think that this is more an indication of what we
see when we get fans voting to be too to
be perfectly honest. I mean, it's it's not that fans
aren't you know, not that some are not extremely knowledgeable,

(50:45):
but it's not always putting in perspective history and current
events and all of that. Remember that that huge pole
that voted the all time best college basketball players. It
was this year in they voted Michael Jordan's as the
best college basketball player of all time, and and it's

(51:07):
this isn't that's an easy answer. It's lull sender. It's
not even close by the way, Michael Michael Jordan barely
cracks the top ten. That that same pole, same contest
had Zion Williamson beating Christian Layner in the first round, Like,
are you kidding me? The dude who played one season

(51:28):
and didn't even get past the Sweet six team versus
Christian Lightner. Yeah, that that was he. It was. It
was ridiculous and Langdon was a better pro I'm sorry,
a better college player. Zion didn't make it to the
final four. Christian Lightner won two national championships single handedly
beat who well who we thought, I should say single handedly,

(51:49):
but knocked down the free throws and played magnificently in
a game that we all thought was against the greatest
team of all time. Um. Yeah, and I'm not even
close to filling out Latner's resume, but that's how But
that poll was. But yeah, you see stuff like this,
I will give them credit, though, I will give them
credit for one thing. George, on this this poll for
Sean McDermott to get ten point six percent, uh tells

(52:11):
me that, Okay, there are some some some intelligent football
fans because of what he's done in Buffalo and turning
it around where it doesn't get a lot of headlines,
or just looking at the hot sexy offensive coach. Uh.
Glad to see that Sean McDermott got some of those
votes as well. Yeah, he's a he's a miracle worker.
He's got a running back at quarterback and he makes

(52:31):
it work. He's George Yster. I'm Dan Fire. This is
the Doug Gotlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Get
George on Twitter at George Rister. I'm at Dan Buyer
on Fox. How will the Washington Nationals deal with the
absence of Juan Soto with the season starting tonight. We'll
talk about that next year on Fox. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show week

(52:52):
days at three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. I'm Dan Buyer.
He's George Rice to sitting in for Doug today here
on Fox Sports Radio. So glad to have you with us.
Major League Baseball gonna start their season in about two
and a half hours Nationals and Yankees from d C.

(53:12):
But a big piece of the Nationals is missing it
tonight and maybe for a little while longer to dive
into that and so more. A guy that I just
saw on my TV a little while ago. He now
joins us here on Fox Sports Radio MLB Network in center.
Mike Mark find San joins us here on Fox Sports Radio.
Hey Mark, Happy opening day. How are you um well?
How are you guys doing all right? So, so give

(53:34):
us a little information on on how this Juan showto
situation is going to affect the Nationals. And there's a
is there a discrepancy about his tests or some questions
when he actually tested positive? What's going on with Juan
Soto on the Nationals? Well, you know, obviously it's going
to affect them that it takes their best hit around
of the lineup for opening day and most likely you know,

(53:56):
some time going forward here. Uh, certainly at least today
and tomorrow. He's got a test negative twice before he
can return to play. Now he's a symptomatic, so that's
a positive thing, uh, you know for the nationalsm for Soto,
I believe if I have this all right, the test
that came up positive was taken on Tuesday, but he
had taken a test on Sunday that was negative. So uh,

(54:19):
you know, he had sat out fourteen days earlier in
camp after being exposed to somebody who was potentially positive.
But he had tested several times since then and been
negative each time. So it seems like the infection hit
him somewhere between Sunday and Tuesday. Um, you know, like
I said, he's ans symptomatic, So if he can get
two negative tests under his belt going forward here, then

(54:40):
he can come back and maybe he's not out for
an extended period of time. Um, how are the team?
How how is the team and other players responding to
to this? Is this upping they're testing? You know, as
far as far as contact tracing and things like that, Well,
they'll I'll be tested today obviously. UM. As far as

(55:00):
how they're reacting to it, I don't know where. We're
not allowing clubhouses anymore, We're not you know, media is
not allowed anywhere near players at this point. So uh,
you know, you work the phones and try to get
what you can. But obviously the Nationals have some concern
to make sure that nobody else was infected. But they
will all be tested today. UM, and I would imagine
that by uh, you know, by tomorrow night or so,

(55:21):
you have a better idea of whether or not whether
or not it's spread anywhere. You know, other teams have
had positive players in their clubhouse and it hasn't spread
because you know, they're doing a good job of wearing
masks everywhere, they own social distancing and you know, doing
everything they can to prevent the spread if somebody is infected.
Um So, I don't you know, I don't anticipate this
is going to start some sort of a huge wave

(55:44):
in the National's clubhouse where all of a sudden, uh,
you know, a half a dozen or a dozen players
come down with it. You know, Mark Fine stand joining
us here, MLB Network insider. I think a lot of
other leagues are going to be watching on how this
plays out, because it could give them a roadmap on
on how they're going to handle things. I want to
ask you about the the other news that seems to
be breaking and breaking at every minute over the last

(56:04):
twenty four hours, the expanded playoffs. Why did this come
so late in the game where we expect to see
an expanded playoff field from ten to now sixteen teams
this season. Why does this happen in the last Well, obviously,
if it was going to happen, it had to happen
before the season started. You can't just uh, you know,

(56:25):
halfway into the season or once once the teams have
started to play. You can't then say, by the way,
the rules were gonna make the playoffs interchange. Um So,
if it was gonna happen, it was gonna happen by
you know, six o'clock tonight Eastern time, you know, about
an hour before opening day. Uh. And these sides have
had a history of things kind of going down to
the wire, and this was obviously a big part of
the negotiation between the league and the union. Um, you know,

(56:49):
when they were having their returned to play negotiations that
they never struck a deal. But it benefits both sides
right now to do this. You know, the players are
going to add an efter fifty million dollars in money
that will be split up amongst teams that make the playoffs.
You know, amongst those players. Teams are gonna get a
lot more money out of the you know, additional TV
revenue it will come in from, uh, you know, potentially

(57:11):
having a team more postseason games. So it's a win
win for both sides. And in a year where revenue
is obviously a big issue for everybody involved with the game. UM,
it just seemed like a smart idea. It's not official yet.
I believe the union has approved that the owner self
to ratify it, but I'd be surprised at this point if,
you know, if there were not expand the playoffs in

(57:33):
sixteen teams this year. Um, with the with the team's
coming back playing playing games, what is the league's playing
or what have you heard about it about rescheduling games
or games that have to be missed. If there is
a roster issue, you know, they'll take it as a

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come I mean I think they'll you know, right now,
they're hoping that you know, every team having that sixty
player player pool will uh, you know, be sufficient in
terms of filling those holes if players do test positive. Uh,
you know, each team is gonna be able to bring
a three man taxi squad on the road with them
so that they can avoid as best they can having
to put um, you know, a player who's replacing somebody

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for injury or or a positive test, having to put
them on a you know, commercial flight. Um. So they've
taken some precautions to try to figure that out. You know,
if if a team has an outbreak to the point
where they don't have enough players to play, uh, then
they're gonna have to They're gonna have figure that out.
But um, you know, they're hopeful that that that that
won't get to that point. Mark finds in on the

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M Moving Network, joining us. Here is their insider findam
on Twitter at fines in last one for me, Mark yesterday,
we were all caught a little bit off hard with
the Mookie Betts extension for a lot of different reasons.
And I guess we understand why he said earlier in
the week that he didn't regret turning down the Red
Sox offer. What I'm curious about, are there other owners

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in Major League Baseball who maybe took a step back
or weren't happy that the Dodgers gave that much money
to Bets. I doubt it. I mean, I think, you know,
number one, the Dodgers are obviously one of the biggest,
you know, market teams in the game. Evan, the Yankees
certainly have a financial wherewithal that most other teams don't have.
So for the Dodgers to go out and uh and

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give Bets that kind of money, it's not like, uh,
you know, a team in Miami or in Tampa Bay
or in Milwaukee's all of a sudden gonna say, well,
now we have pressure to give somebody three fifty million
dollars of our own uh. And Mookie Betts is one
of the three or four best players in the game.
So you know, you you take a large market team
and one of the best players in the game and
you put them together and you're gonna get a big number.

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I don't think anybody thought that the Dodgers made this trade,
traded for Dugo and a couple of good prospects, give
up all that talent from Mookie bets for one year.
I think everybody expected that he was going to wind
up getting a pretty big extension. You know, he didn't
come out publicly and say, like we've seen so many
players do, well, it has to be done by opening
day or on shelving talks. This was a very private,

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uh certain negotiation. It started back in March. It picked
up again last week, and Mookie had said he wanted
to get it done before opening day. But this wasn't
a public thing to put pressure. It was just, if
we're gonna get this done, this is what I want
to get it done by. And obviously they were able
to get it done. And now the Dodgers have the
you know, a franchise player there for the next twelve
years to go with Cody Bellinger who was already a

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franchise player, and some other guys who are pretty good
players in their own right, So the Dodgers certainly did
nothing but cement themselves as favorites in the NLS for
for several years to come. Here, Mark, we know that
that baseball is about the numbers, and over the course
of a season there's longevity and we see players start
hot and then numbers fade and kind of end up

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where you kind of expected them to be. But with
in terms of winning a championship, this year was such
a short season, do you think it does expand the
field and we could see a surprise World Series champion? Well,
especially now that if the playoffs are going to be
expanded to sixteen teams, you're gonna have some teams getting
into the playoffs that uh that would not have normally

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been there in the past. That said, I believe the
way that the format is gonna work in that first
round is that the lower seed is gonna go play
the higher seed, meaning the better team, uh, best of
three all in the ballpark of the of the higher
seeded team. So you know, the lower ceeded team is
gonna have to win two out of three on the
road in a tough atmosphere to get there. I think

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generally the best team wins in the playoff series doesn't
always happen, um, But look if if a team that's
snuck into the playoffs can somehow up end two or
three really good teams on their way, We've seen that
happen before. We've seen, right, We've seen nine and seven
teams get to the super Bowl. We've seen uh, you know,
wild card teams get to win the World Series. So
anything can happen in any playoffs. But I think the

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fact that they're gonna be having a an expanded playoffs,
I think there's certainly legitimacy to whoever wins the World Series,
even in a shortened season. Find them on Twitter and
find Sam see them on MLB Network. Just as it
did a few hours ago, Mark Fine said, we appreciate it.
Happy Opening Day and joy the games. Tonight. Be sure
to catch the live edition of The Doug gott Leap

(01:02:07):
Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific. There
is something that is going down that is George Rice
stir it as m hyped more than grilling sausages on
this uh, this nice summer afternoon. Dignity Health Sports Park
in Carson, California, will be the site of an eight
round exhibition boxing match between Roy Jones Jr. And one

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Mike Tyson. It's gonna be parts of a pay per
view the multimedium platform Trailler is going to host the fight.
Will also do a ten part docuseries leading up to
the fight. But on September twelfth, Mike Tyson will get
into the ring against Roy Jones Jr. Exhibition fight. I

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don't know how real it can get. Jones is fift
You want to mention Tyson fifty four, but you are
all in on this. I'm all in And the only
reason why it's an exhibition fight is the way it
doesn't have to be sanctioned by the by the California
Boxing Commission. Like it doesn't have to it's not subject
to all the same rules, even though it's going to

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be subject to all the same normal fighting conditions. I
could not be more all in on this. This is
Mike Tyson. This is the guy that if you blinked,
you would miss the fight. I mean, he was volatile,
he was dangerous. That's what made him so popular. And

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Roy Jones. Roy Jones when when he lost to Antonio
Tarver his fault his first time and on that fandom
closed his eyes punch. I was having a fight party
at my house in Jacksonville. First time ever I've ever
gotten this mad at a sporting event because it hurt
my soul when he left. When he lost, I kicked

(01:03:58):
people out of my house because people were talking trash
about Antonio. They were like, oh, Antonio Tarv is gonna
beat him, and then he won and they talk trash.
I was like, get out. I was like, like Martin,
I was like, don't let the Good Lord, don't let
the dark get you where the Good Lord split you, like,
get up out of here. The it is. People are
gonna be drawn into it, and and it's amazing when

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you see names of of of the the all time
greats and how they can still resonate. I'm not sure
people know what to expect from the fifty four year
old Mike Tyson, but the curiosity is there. The hype videos,
the warm up videos that we see on social media
do draw people in, So I'll agree with you on that.

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I mean, I think this is gonna get good numbers.
I really, I really do. And it's just more of
curiosity than actual seeing the fight dan from seeing the
Mike we we haven't even seen Roy Jones training yet,
but from the videos of Mike Tyson training, does he
steal look like a very dangerous man? Oh? Absolutely, and

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and it makes me laugh. Well, remember the old the
old thing that used to people used to do, and
they would say, I'll take a punch from Mike Tushan
for a million dollars because you know, he would knock
out the other fighter in you know, twelve seconds or whatever,
and the other fighter would obviously get paid millions of dollars.
But that's what we always said. And then you see
these these these clips and you're like, okay, if that's

(01:05:24):
what he was doing at fifty years old, after that
glasp of what he was doing when he was at
twenty seven, So I take that back that I wanted
to step in the ring for ten seconds to take
one punch, Dude, I wouldn't take a punch from fifty
four year old Mike Tyson. Dude. Here here's a quick
funny story about about Tyson um and how he was
when he was younger. I was in the NFL, big, strong, fast, Matt,

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I mean, like feeling invincible steel. We are in Las Vegas.
This is before Mike Tyson. His head is like awakening
and he's gotten mentally healthy and all of this. This
is still pit bull without a leash. Mike Tyson and
with me and my girlfriend at the time, we're walking
into the Belaggio and you can either take a ramp

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to the left, to the right, or you can kind
of go straight. Uh. And we were going to go
see oh she's dressed up, short, dressed looking good and um.
And we're we're walking and we see Mike Tyson walking by, like, oh, snap,
that's Mike Tyson. He's got a sniffer of something brown,

(01:06:31):
some brown alcohol in his hand. He's walking with two
other dudes, and he grabs this young lady. Uh no, no, no, no, sorry,
he didn't he didn't grab her. He grabbed himself. He
grabbed his his man package and was and said some expletives,
like yo, why don't you do some you know, a

(01:06:51):
performing action on me? Yeah. And and then I had
the choice, well, we had the choice. We could either
walk intendue you to walk down straight into Mike Tyson,
or go fifteen twenty seconds out of our way to
the writer to the left. I chose to go to
the right or the left, and The reason why I

(01:07:13):
chose that is because I was like, Okay, if we
walk into Mike Tyson, I just saw what he just did.
There's a good chance that he would do this here,
and if he does, what am I going to do?
So this is my girlfriend who actually lived with me
at the time. So what if Mike Tyson did that
same thing? And I'm a man football player, what am

(01:07:35):
I gonna do? I have two choices. I can either
let it, let it happen, and then I get home
and she's feeling some type of way like why didn't
you stand up to Mike Tyson? Or be I stand
up to Mike Tyson and then something. I mean, I
got one punch chance, but it's it's a low punch
because he he takes punches from grown men that do

(01:07:58):
this for a living. And and or I get beat
up like this a lose lose situation. Yeah, if you
have the choice, do you want to go to the
club letter tonight or Las Vegas General Hospital, you know,
or whatever the hospital is called in Las Vegas, there
would be yeah that you made you made the right decision.
And and I I got back to Jacksonville. I told
a couple of my teammates would happened. And these fools said, Oh, George,

(01:08:23):
I can't believe you. You're super weak man. You didn't
walk me in out and walk right in into it.
He wouldn't have did nothing. I was like, yeah, right,
you're a liar. I don't believe you, and you cannot
shame me or or or indict my pride because I
made a wise choice. September twelve, it goes down Mike
Tyson coming out of retirement to fight the retired Roy

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Jones Jr. Uh in Southern California. He's George rice Stir.
I'm Dan Buyer. This season the Doug gott Leap Show
here on Fox Sports Radio, there will be no preseason
games for the NFL coming up this summer. Why did
the players not want any preseason games? Will reveal the
real answer next year on Fox. Be sure to catch
the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays at
three pm Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and

(01:09:07):
the I Heart Radio app. He's George rice Stir, six
year NFL veteran. I'm Dan Buyer, sitting in for Doug
today on this Thursday here on Fox Sports Radio. Just
because Doug isn't here doesn't mean we won't do what
Doug normally does at this time. And that's here's something
very interesting from another Fox Sports radio show or Fox
Sports One program and a segment we like to call

(01:09:27):
and now say George. Earlier today of the Dan Patrick's show,
NFL Players Association president in current Cleveland Brown Center J C.
Treader joined DP and talked about why the Players Association
was against having preseason games this summer. There's two issues.
One's the COVID side of it, where if you're creating

(01:09:51):
these safe bubbles at your facilities, what's the benefit to
playing a game mixing two groups, risking an outbreak for
a game that doesn't count the standings and in doing so,
could derail the entire season if something happens. Second, the
football side of it, and something we're still fighting for
is the proper acclamation period as well as ramp up,

(01:10:11):
and the more preseason games in the schedule, the shorter
that ramp up can be. And now it's it's necessary
to do the proper ramp up to make sure we
take guys from where they're at right now to game
speed without rushing them back and having a mass injury event.
Does that make sense in your mind, George Rice stir
and why the players don't want to play preseason games. Absolutely, absolutely,

(01:10:33):
it makes perfect sense. And one of the biggest issues
that they're having right now, and I talked to two
NFL players today, is the ramp up period. What is
the ramp up the acclamation period gonna look like. Because
the owners want it five days, the players want it
twenty one days, and that's the time from where they

(01:10:54):
get into the facility, start working out together and all
that before practice can art and back. In two eleven,
which was the last work stoppage, injuries went up. Achilles
injuries more than doubled. Hamstring injuries went up by forty percent.

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So players are looking at the overall health of them
themselves because no matter how hard they've been working out
at their facilities, it's still not the same as when
you get to pushing and pulling and competing against other people.
I've been on record, I said it on on this show.
I thought that there would be uh at least one
game to try to get a feel for how everything operated.

(01:11:39):
One preseason game to get a feel how everything operates.
That's where I thought that maybe in uh, a negotiation
between the two sides, but it ends up not even
being a negotiation because the NFL just basically says, all right,
we're not gonna have any likely because of the money situation.
How how are you guys compensated when it comes to
preseason Is it only the seventeen game checks that you

(01:12:01):
get or is there compensation in those preseason games? Oh yeah,
there's yeah, for all those weeks in camp, there is compensation,
but it's peanuts. Like if you're a player who's making
you know, uh, like a high end player and you're
making seventeen million dollars, then you're gonna get seventeen one

(01:12:22):
million dollar checks obviously before taxas. But during the preseason
you're making like two thousand bucks a week. Like that's
not So that's the cash cow for the owners the
players that that's why they don't even mind playing all
these preseason games. The players, the top players don't play

(01:12:43):
in the first game, they don't play in the last game.
It's just a chance for the owners to pat their pockets.
And we did start to see a tread where certain
teams wouldn't even play their stars in any of the
games anymore, not even the third preseason game of the year,
and even stars with with rookies who may big play
big roles like Alvin Camara. I remember the Saints shut

(01:13:05):
him down pretty early in his rookie season, after maybe
a game or so. He's George rice Ster, I'm Dan Buyer.
This is the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
Coming up next. It was a huge, huge day yesterday
for George. You're gonna hear what he had to do
with the n C Double A and Congress that coming
up next year on Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to
catch the live edition of The Doug Gottlieb Show weekdays

(01:13:27):
at three p m. Easter noon Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the I Heart Radio app. What is life
really like? It's hot the NBA bubble, especially now that
you have scrimmages going on. Will head to Orlando in
about twenty minutes. But first, he's George Rice Stir. I'm
Dan Buyer. It was twenty four hours ago that George

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was talking sports, but not to you and me and
and so many of us sports fans around the country.
He was doing so in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
What a day for you on why in state? George,
I mean, I mean seriously, this is uh, this is
pretty cool. Georgia's testifying um as the n C double A. Uh,

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And I'm paraphrasing George, and you can tell me if
I'm saying it wrong. But basically, the n C double
A kind of wants Congress to get involved, lay down
some laws when it comes to the name, image and
likeness rules that we could have in the n C
double as. That fair enough, Yeah, that's fair enough, and
so does everybody else, because what what's happened is you've

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had California, Colorado, and Florida all pass into law different name,
image and likeness legislation. You also have different bills in
New York, South Carolina, and a bunch of other states
as well that are kind of moving along. So this
just put pressure on the n C double A, which

(01:14:48):
has finally acquiesced, has said alright, fine, will allow players
to trade off their name, image and likeness. But what
the Senate is doing is really just trying to set well,
what they're gonna do is set uh universal rules for it.
That way, the each individual state didn't have their own rules,

(01:15:09):
which would actually make them for a much more chaotic system,
and the n C Double A wants an anti trust
exemption UH surrounding this the way they can't be sued
in all of this. But in reality, every game that's
been made by the n C, by the players and

(01:15:29):
even by coaches, has been from suing the n C
Double A under the antitrust rules. Um, there was a rule.
There was a law that was well, sorry, there was
a case law versus the n C Double A. They
actually tried to limit coaching UH salaries that you had
to have one coach who could only make sixteen thousand

(01:15:50):
dollars on the salary, and they fought that in one
So but there were a bunch of um, the n
C Double A and the Power or five put out
some you know, some different things in their proposal that
I was just vehemently against. And I guess we can
start at the beginning because there's a lot of people

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that say, well, if players want to be paid, then
they should go professional and all of this. It's not
that the players want to be paid by the universities,
but it's this, it's that every other student on campus
is like me or you out in the world. We
can trade on our name, image and likeness. So what
that means is is if a player starts a YouTube channel,

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he can't be paid for it. If he starts a podcast,
if he invents uh, if he starts building robots, he
can't get a sponsor to help pay for that. None
of those things are permissible under the n C double
A and so uh like imagine, do Dan, Dan, do
you remember the u c l A gymnasts from I

(01:16:58):
think she finished last year, Caitlin in Ohashi. Yes, yes,
um so. Her videos got hundreds of millions of views.
They were played everywhere, and she could have gotten endorsements,
she could have gotten a Wheaty's box, could have been
able to use that app masterclass and teach gymnastics, anything

(01:17:18):
like that, but the instant. But if she had done that,
she would no longer be considered a quote unquote amateur.
And that's what a lot of this fighter was was about.
And I want to know what you think of these
three problems there. Yeah, Well what I think what I
think is interesting, first of all, is that you used
her as an example. And I went back and I

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watched your testimony because it was broadcast on c SPAN,
and there was you know, it was a two and
a half hour hearing. Mark Emmert spoke uh during it,
and so I watched it. But I think so much
of name image and like this for for most sports fans,
they just think it, you know, has to do with
Johnny Manzel or you know the star football player, the

(01:18:01):
star basketball player who maybe sees their jersey and number
hanging in a store, and it's it's it's not it's
not all about that. What I find interesting is is
the n C Double A and and while they want
those guardrails, and I can understand why, because you don't
want Florida to have maybe easier restrictions as opposed let's

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just say Georgia, which is right next door. So then
all the players will you know, go to Florida schools
and maybe you know none of the Georgia kids or
you know, Georgia Tech. They're the ones who are like, well,
wait a second, whiever kids going to you know, being
a Gator or being a Seminole because they can maybe
make more money. I can, I can get like that
portion of it. But what I find interesting is that
the n C Double A wants to put things in

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that that that are beneficial to the school, meaning like
if if you were an athlete and the the you know,
Mazda company came to you and said, George, we want you,
you know, to be a spokesperson or to you drive
them on Mazda, you know, because of who you are.
If there was another competing automobile company with that school,

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you couldn't do that and and to meet that like
that's well, then then does it the school? Like then
is it the school in the n C double A
then again controlling what you can do. And so that's
what was interesting to me and reading more about it,
was how the n C double A, well, we think
it's it's it's all positive and it is progress that

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the n C double A still wants their hand and
all of this and they still you know, they they
they you know, there's a cap on, you know, what
a scholarship is worth, and they don't want to open
up the can of worms where they still want to
have a I guess a cap on how much you
would be able to make on your name, image and likeness,
you know, like in those are the things, and well
it is it's a better system than maybe what you

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would have before. To me, it just still tells me
to that the n C double A still really wants
to have their fingers on everything to protect um really
on who they are. And that was the thing that
I didn't like about it was that it's progress, but
it's not maybe the progress that we all thought it
was going to be for sure, And haven't we learned
that the free market will kind of correct it correct

(01:20:12):
itself and supply and demand. So because Mark Emrit and
you know and the and Radic Radic Covid who is
the the yeah, he they were both talking about inducements,
about recruits, big time recruits, won't won't one place try
to get this guy. But the truth is this is

(01:20:34):
that not all five star recruits pan out first thing.
So so that may happen initially, but don't you think
some of these big boosters will will say after a
couple of them don't pan out, that they'll say, wait,
hold on, let me actually wait and I'll get the
kids on campus. Once they get on campus and prove

(01:20:56):
their their worth, then I will you know, interveete and
and and sponsor them or some or something there. But
you brought up a good point, damn where you said
where the school that they can only that the n
C Double A and power Fire proposal is that the
kids can only enter into sponsorship agreements or marketing agreements

(01:21:17):
with UH with partners of the school already, but that
limits the ability to negotiate one. And the second thing
is is that you could actually have boosters. So let's
say that I own an app for a. Actually, let's
let's say that I'm a big booster of the University

(01:21:39):
of Oregon and I own a restaurant, and I say, listen,
I want my restaurant to be very popular, but there's
another competing restaurant that's popping up. But I'm a big donor,
so let me enter into a contract with the university
for absolutely p nuts and then that would block the

(01:21:59):
other companies from talking to the players. So you can
actually do some very nefarious things with the way the
n C Double A had it set up. And I
was just like, they just want to continue to control
everything when every other play, when these are professional sports

(01:22:19):
for everybody else involved, for the coaches, for the administrators,
for the schools. But but we still need the players
to pump money through the state. And um Dan, I
wanted to ask you about other two issues. Well, can
I quick and just piggyback on something that you said,
because because there's there's there's been a thought that I've

(01:22:39):
had and I've had it for years and I've said
it on the variety of shows. But it has something
to do with with what you're saying as well as
we look at a name and like this, and when
I mentioned off the top about Johnny Manzel and and
you know him being able to sign autographs or do whatever.
You know, I went to a big school. I went
to Wisconsin, and I know how much that state law football, right,

(01:23:02):
and it if if you had if you had an
offensive lineman that went to the local automobile dealership on
a Saturday to sign autographs, it the line may not
be as long as it would be for Ron Dane,
you know who maybe would be signing there three weeks prior,
but there would be fans going there and it may
be worth the players while to do that. And I've

(01:23:24):
always felt like even those guys that we think it's
the top of the line thing. But but in in
college towns and in college atmospheres, if if you're a
badger or if you're a duck, if you're a hokey,
there's celebrity that goes to it, even though you may
not be, you know, nationally known, And I think it
would help those athletes. And I also think that with

(01:23:45):
the way college football is, if it's not that Alabama
would get all the star running backs. If you're a
five star running back and you think you can make
money off of your you know, name, image and likeness,
and you know that the Crimson Tide already have two
studs ahead of you, you're to go somewhere else because
you're saying, you know what, I can maybe get three
years of this instead of maybe being just one year

(01:24:06):
in the spotlight at Alabama. Maybe I'll go to Old
miss or I'll go to you know, somewhere else where
I could maybe start right away and get an opportunity.
So I don't think necessarily that all of the big
top schools when you get all the top players, because
there's not enough playing time for those players uh to
get to also then make a name for themselves. So

(01:24:27):
I think, yeah, I think that it evens out more
than people would think that it's it's not just the
rich getting richer. Well, truthfully, the richer already getting Richer.
Alabama is in the top three in recruiting every single year.
I mean Clemson is up there now, Georgia, these these
schools have more resources. So but I do agree with

(01:24:49):
you that that would actually balance out level out the
playing field a little bit more. Um. There there were
two other things then I want to ask you about
that I just thought were absolutely assinine. The one thing
is where they said that they want players to at
least be in school for a semester before they start

(01:25:14):
trading on their name, immage and likeness. And I was like,
why would you have to be in school for a
semester when the schools already trading on your name after
National Signing Day to get more ticket sales and get
the people excited about the program. So that's the first
thing you think about that if um, you know, Zion's

(01:25:34):
got his own issues going on, but you know, like
you think of like, so, so what he would have
eight weeks of being able to be a you know,
our twelve weeks of being a Duke Blue devil. Um,
if that was the case, if he had roles in
the fall semester, has to wait and can't end up
doing it until you know, mid January. Um, yeah, that
that to me doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

(01:25:54):
It just seems And and to your point about National
Signing Day, I mean, they're a freshman that Trevor Lawrence,
you know, I mean Deshaun Watson. You just look at
the Clemson quarterback position. You know that they they've had
for the last two years. These were known names when
they were before they even took a snap for for
the for the Tigers. So so yeah, I don't think
that necessarily makes a lot of sense to uh, to

(01:26:17):
have them have to wait. And your point about the
National Signing game in the school already, you know, marketing
off of them. Yeah, it just doesn't It seems like
it's an unnecessary rule. I don't know what any benefit
it would give, um, because it's not like a kid's
gonna stay in school, um, you know because of this
to get his extra money, you have to also be
there anyway. So and another rule that they is proposing

(01:26:39):
is that you can't have any publicity rights that you
can't use trade on your name, image, and likeness five
years before you check in the college. So that means
from the time you're in eighth grade all the way
through high school. So if you are, like I used
the example, if you build robots, if you're an actor,
if you do if you're famous on TikTok or your

(01:27:02):
Ryan selling toys on YouTube, then you're ineligible to to
for college ball or to trade on your name, image
and likeness from the eighth grade until you check into school.
And it's like, so you're supposed to know that you
are gonna be a college athlete in eighth grade, and

(01:27:24):
you aren't supposed to maximize any of your other gifts, talents,
or abilities to make money until you get to college,
which will then be restricted. Again, that's the most Unamerican,
like just just hot, flaming Unamerican garbage that I've ever heard.

(01:27:45):
It also seems to be so counterproductive because I would
think the bigger name that you are to think Zion
is the perfect example of this, the more attention that
it brings. I don't think Duke made you know, like
like Duke is always gonna be Duke, And I think
Duke helped Zion. But we also paid a tech you
because we knew who Zion was when he was sixteen
years old. So this actually helps the school as well
to know these guys. Um, So that to me seems counterproductive.

(01:28:09):
They want to do their thing before they get into college. Um.
To me, it would only benefit the schools um when
those kids actually go to school. So that doesn't make
any sense. But I guess if you're in seventh grade
that that's the time to make your money. Because that's cool. Wow,
good stuff. Props to you. Props to you for doing
that yesterday. And I know they said you may be
doing some more stuff with it, so we will. We

(01:28:29):
will talk about it when we can. But yeah, congratulations
on that and good job yesterday. Thank you so much. Man.
I'm excited and hopefully meaningful legislation gets passed. He's George
Rice Stir. I'm Dan Buyer. This is the Doug Gottlip
Show here on Fox Sports Radio. You can tweet George
at George Rice to I'm Dan Buyer on Fox. Coming
up next, we're excited for baseball, but we're also excited

(01:28:52):
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(01:29:15):
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I've got some hoop on my screen right now, Pacers
and Blazers playing one of the NBA scrimmages. Let's head
to the bubble. George, Uh, he's George rice Stir. I'm

(01:29:36):
Dan Buyer sitting in for Doug Gottlieb today as he
covers the Clippers for the Athletic. You can also hear
him on the Clip City podcast. Jovon Bouhan joins us
here on Fox Sports Radio. Yovan, how's the bubble been
screeting you in this first week or so in Orlando?
So I'm actually not in the bubble? Oh okay, my bad, yeah, okay,

(01:29:59):
um I but it's been it's been interesting, uh, you know,
changing from you know, I travel with the team on
the road under normal circumstances. So going from being a
traveling beat writer to doing these Zoom calls from home
and not having that room access, not having that face
to face access, um where you know, after a scrum

(01:30:21):
you can pull a guy to the side, get some
one on one at time with them. Uh. That being
gone is definitely changed the job And it's a lot
different now. You know, anything I get, you know thus
far has been what everyone else gets that that's in
the scrum, you know, over zoom. So it's definitely been
a difference. Um, you know, not traveling and being there.

(01:30:41):
But um, you know, I think you just got to
make the best of it given the circumstances. Right now, Um,
how is this really changed the industry in terms of
reporting getting as much detailed information? I mean, just something
for young people who want to come up in the business, Like,

(01:31:03):
how important are those personal relationships now? I think they're
They're definitely more important because you know, during the season,
I think it's it's a lot harder to avoid, you know,
for for someone not to respond to you that that
you know, because you're you're gonna run into them at
some point. You're going to see them. Now it is

(01:31:24):
a little bit easier to ignore people have people not
respond to you because we don't know when we're going
to see you know, certain people from teams or agents
or different people like that. So, um, I think it
really comes down to your personal relationships with those people,
how often you're communicating with them, how comfortable they are
with you, how much they trust you. And it does

(01:31:45):
definitely change the landscape. Um, you know, I think hopefully
this is something that's gonna be temporary where at some point,
you know, next season, the season after, we will be
allowed to travel again and go back in the locker rooms.
But if that's not the case, um, you know, it's
definitely change is the way you do job your job,
because now it becomes more about who you know, what
access do you have personally, and it's less about what

(01:32:07):
you can do in the field. Um. But you know,
for for me, again, you're traveling with the team on
the road, there's only a few reporters in there, you know, myself,
one other traveling writer and then maybe a couple of
people from the local media there. But now these zoom calls,
you have ten, twenty, you know, thirty people on the
call and they're immediately tweeting out whatever a player, a coach, says,

(01:32:29):
So it definitely has changed it and and again it's
it's now going to be more about who you know,
you know, what type of connections and networking you have,
and then also who can tell the best story? You know,
who who is the best writer, who has the best angle,
and that that definitely is now more important, I think
than it was, you know, even before cover the Clippers
for the Athletic Yea joins us here on Fox Sports Radio.

(01:32:52):
He's George Rice to I'm Dan Buyer sitting in for
Doug Gotlib today here on the Doug Gottlieb Show. So
when does the and I don't think it's going to
changed totally, but when does the narrative in these meetings
become more focused on basketball? Now that now that the
Clippers have a scrimmage under their belt. Did you have
you seen a change in the last twenty four hours.

(01:33:13):
Is it more about the games at hand? Or when
do you think that may become um may become more
of the norm in this in this bubble situation over
the next couple of weeks. I think the first seeding
game is going to be really one of the conversation ships. Obviously,
you know COVID nineteen is kind of looming over everything

(01:33:34):
where that that's going to be a ongoing storyline for
the next three months. Uh. You have guys who have
left the bubble and are at home, you know, dealing
with certain family emergencies in different situations. UM. So kind
of who's going in and out of the bubble is
also going to be a storyline. Um. And then you
you also have the social justice issues going on. You know,

(01:33:56):
Paul George yesterday, what was the first player to to
kate his entire postgame press conference to mentioning social justice
and police brutality um and and incorporate that into every
question he was asked. So, UM, I think those storylines
are still gonna be there. But yesterday, you know, basketball

(01:34:16):
was more prominent than it was and we actually had
something to digest and analyze and talk about, you know,
with DC rivers and and various players. So I think
these first two to three scrimmages, you know, a lot
of the storyline is going to be you know, what's
it like playing in this environment, what's it like playing
in in front of no fans and with this you know,

(01:34:37):
canned um noise and sounds and um you know, the
p A guy really being the only um you know,
voices you're hearing aside from the players and coaches, and
you know that. I think that's that's gonna be a
storyline for these first two or three games. But once
the action really starts next week, I think it'll shift
to basketball. It'll shift who's gonna make the playoffs? What

(01:34:59):
are the match up is going to be? And I
think you'll you'll start to see that dialogue change next week. UM,
I want to ask you about the players coming in
and out of the bubble because you have Patrick Beverley,
who's who just left for a family thing. You have
Gordon Hayward talking about he's gonna leave, you have other players, Uh,
I think my mintres Harrold also left for the the Clippers.

(01:35:23):
How does that work to get back in and how
does the NBA plan to really keep it a bubble
if players are just able to just leave and come back.
So that actually changed today where previously it had been. UM,
if you left the bubble, so arriving to the bubble

(01:35:43):
from the outside, you have to quarantine for thirty six hours.
So every team, you know, when all teams arrived, every
player had to quarantine in their room for thirty six hours.
Leaving the bubble though and coming back that changes to
a four to ten day quarantine period depending on how
often you've been tested one year outside the bubble. But

(01:36:04):
that was actually changed today where teams UM. You know,
depending again depending on the testing that the players are
doing outside of the bubble, it might be up to
a maximum of four days. So that's actually good news
for anyone that has to leave the Bubble that it
might be a shorter amount of time now because you know,
if you leave and after quarantine for ten days, you know,

(01:36:26):
in the playoffs, that could be a full round or
or almost the full round UM, you know, depending on
how competitive the series is. So you know, as of
right now, UH, we don't have a status update on
Patrick Beverley or Montrez Herald. We do not know when
they will be returning to the Bubble, but whenever they do,
it looks like they will most likely have to quarantine
somewhere between one to four days UM, at which point

(01:36:49):
you know they will be able to return UM for
the Clipper's sake, I mean, I think they hope that's
before uh Friday's match up with the Lakers because you
know that that's obviously Round four battle l A. Everyone's
gonna be paying attention to that matchup. That's the season opener.
Uh So if they're shorthanded in that, that's definitely gonna
change that, you know, dynamics. So UM, I think all
eyes are on that Friday matchup and if those guys

(01:37:11):
can get back into the bubble before them. Joan Buha
joining us here on Fox Sports Radio Listen. I I'm
one of many people trying to figure out, trying to
basically guess what we're gonna get um in this NBA bubble,
whether you know one team as an advantage or not
an advantage. Has Have any of the players or coaches

(01:37:35):
mentioned seating? Do they care? Um? Is it just all
about staying on the opposite side of the bracket of
the Lakers in the West. Is there any conversation about
seating now that home court isn't going to be a
factor in these playoffs? I think most people take one
of two stances. One discussing seating publicly, where you know

(01:37:58):
Doc Rivers, for example, will often say he doesn't care
about seating, It doesn't matter to him. He just wants
to win. Every game and you know, let the chips
fall where they may. Um. And and then of course
there are other coaches who will say like, yes, seating
is important, and we do want to win and be
the best seed possible. Um, so that's kind of our goal.
I think privately, people, you know, seating does matter, and

(01:38:20):
we've seen it every year on the postseason. UH, teams
will be jocking for position, trying to avoid certain matchups.
I'm sure from the Clippers perspective, they would not want
to fall into that four or five matchup and have
to play the Lakers in round two. So for them,
it's about staying as the two seed or the three seed.
I do think seating matters, um, you know, even without

(01:38:43):
home court advantage, seating matters in that. To me, if
I'm just surveying the rest of the West, whoever ends
up being the seventh seed, because of how close the
standings are right now three through seven, whoever ends up
being the seventh seed is going to have had the
worst record in the bubble among that group, you know,
whether it's Dallas staying in seven or someone dropping the seven.

(01:39:06):
So if I'm the Clippers looking at, you know, the
two or the three, I'd probably rather stay in two
and just play the the easier team or the team
that's struggling. Um So, I do think you know, they're
going to take this seriously. Uh. You know, Kauai will
probably rest the game or two. It wouldn't surprise me
if Paul George rest, maybe Lou Williams too. But aside
from that, like when the Clippers are actually you know,

(01:39:27):
playing and healthy and and have all their guys like
they're going to be trying to win every game. Um So,
I do think seating is going to matter. You know,
there's there's no way around it. Like looking at a
potential matchic of like Utah Houston. You know, Utah had
locked to Houston the last two years. I'm sure Utah
does not want to play Houston again in the first round,
like they're gonna try to avoid that. So um, seed

(01:39:48):
jocking always happens every year. I think this year is
gonna be no different. Um And it's gonna play a
big part in who ends up advancing for sure. Man,
It's it's gonna be fun. It was actually really fun
watch the hoops yesterday and have some games and uh,
a week from a week from tonight we'll get to
see the Clippers tip it off a reel against once
again against those Lakers. Jovan Buha again of the Athletic.

(01:40:12):
Find him on Twitter at yo Van Booha. That's j
O v A n b u h A. We appreciate
the time and shore the hoops. Thanks guys, Thanks having.
Be sure to catch the live edition of The Doug
Gottlieb Show weekdays at three p m. Easter noon Pacific.
It is the Doug Gottlip Show here on Fox Sports Radio.
He's George rice Ster. I'm Dan Buyers. So ninety minutes

(01:40:32):
from now, we'll already be underway in the first Major
League baseball game of the season. George, now that we
are ninety minutes away, how do you really feel about
baseball starting? Is there? Are you more excited less excited
as maybe you would be in in late March early April?
Now that baseball is almost here, what are the emotions like? Um?

(01:40:55):
I am quietly getting a little bit excited, but I
am I'm still gonna stick by my guns that I'll
believe that it's going to happen as soon as I
see the first pitch thrown, because I'm serious dude, because
I watched March Madness where where tournaments were supposed to
start and they were games were getting ready to tip

(01:41:18):
off and they didn't. So guess what I I am.
I believe, like my my mind says they're going to start.
But I cannot let let my little fragile heart that's
been broken time and time again surrounding sports. I'm not
willing to set myself up for failure. I will I
am pitch by pitch. I will believe that the next

(01:41:41):
pitch is coming as soon as it's thrown, a lover's scoring.
That's how it uh. These scars, uh, the the the
the wound is healed, but the scar remains. From George
Rice sters March Madness, I gotta be honest. I three
weeks ago, honestly, was like, you know what, I really
don't even care. I don't care about baseball. I'm curious

(01:42:04):
about how things will play out in the n b A.
I want to know if the Bucks are gonna be
able to make a run. But realistically, George, I just
was like, I'm more focused on football and college NFL
and college football happening. But now that it's here, now
that we we actually have games. I'm actually siding with
I think a lot of people who who are excited

(01:42:27):
and I have been excited for this this, you know,
I maybe watching more games tonight than I watched all
of last year, you know, and there's only two of
them tonight. No, I'm just kidding, but I will probably
be interested in have the games on UM from four
o'clock local time here on the West Coast all the
way until the Dodgers and in Giants, And just because
I'm curious about the feel I'm curious and how it

(01:42:48):
plays out, and I've had I've had live sports, I
feel for myself for over a month, with golf for
about two months because of NASCAR. But so so it's
not the live action of of of not knowing the outcome.
It's just more of we haven't at baseball since the
Nationals beat the Astros in Game seven, you know. So
it's so it's that sort of withdrawal. So I'm actually

(01:43:11):
a little bit more um optimistic and actually way more
excited than I thought I would be three weeks ago,
when I was just kind of focused on football. So
I'm actually really looking forward tonight to see how it
all plays out and I'm not gonna sit there and
you know, and and I don't want to be negative
and be like, oh my goodness, they can shut it down.
I'm just going to I'm gonna take it for what
it is. And yeah, exactly, That's that's where I am

(01:43:34):
to like, I'm just gonna enjoy what I get. And I'm, uh, what,
what's that saying that people say to their kids, you
get what you get and you don't complain about it.
That's what I'm gonna take. I'm not gonna complain, just
gonna take it for what it is. And I think
that that's what I there. We talked about it. I
think on Sunday where a lot of people were saying, oh,

(01:43:58):
I'm just gonna watch every single sport all day. But
I think that that, um, that where where we likened
it to the buffet, which is people are anticipating, no,
I'm just gonna just go gorge myself at the buffet,
but in reality, like you start out trying to do that,

(01:44:19):
but then you really pair down to like the three
or four or five items that you like the most.
And it's probably gonna fall to people what their normal
viewing habits were like they're not gonna uptick. I don't think. Yeah,
it's I'm sorry, it's a bad move to grab pizza,
crab legs and brisket at the buffet. You go brisket,
maybe mashed potatoes or sweet potatoes. You maybe throw a

(01:44:41):
little vegetable on that, get a nice roll. That's how
you do it. Then if you want a crab meal,
go get the crab. Maybe get some corn on the cob.
If you want the pizza, go ahead and do that,
throw a couple of wings on the third trip. But
you don't want a piece of pizza, crab legs and
brisket all on your place at once. You've got to
spread it out. And that's how you handled. You forgot

(01:45:02):
the guacamole to Okay, GUACAMOLEI can't forget that. And of
course the desserts, because everybody's gotta leave room for desserts.
He's George Rice to I'm Dan Buyer. We're sitting in
for Doug Gottlieb today here on the Doug Gottlieb Show
on Fox Sports Radio. The Washington NFL franchise just can't
catch a break. I'll explain why next year on Fox

(01:45:22):
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on this Thursday. I'm Dan Buyer. He's six year NFL
VET George Rice Stir. It's been fun for the last
two hours and fifty minutes or so. George. We still

(01:45:44):
have uh, we still have a little ways to go.
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will start in the NFL where Washington's NFL team announced
today that this season it will be officially known as
the Washington Football Team for this season only while it

(01:46:29):
carefully determines a permanent new nickname. You know George I
and Isaac I kinda wanna I kind of want to
call out everybody on on Twitter or on social media
that are complaining about this, because what what are they
What are they supposed to do? You don't want to
go into a season with your old nickname and just
say like, we'll change it after next year. You can't.

(01:46:53):
Really when you think about the identity of your franchise,
it's probably not something that you can come up within
three weeks or however long it's been since the team
decided to move on, or is really pressured when the
sponsor started to threaten, it's going to take time, so
there was no other option. Heck, George, I think both
you and I said this on our Sunday show when
we were talking, like you're gonna have to go by

(01:47:15):
the Washington football team or club however you want to
put it, you know, for a while, until everything gets sorted.
I just find it amazing that people will still find
something to complain about when there's really nothing more that
the team can do except to find out more about
what angle and what approach they want to take to
the new nickname. Well, this was the only thing that

(01:47:36):
they could do because you did have people who would
try to uh fight their trademarks and all of that,
or they're or they're gonna have to fight the trademarks
against that guy who tried to who trademark red tails,
red wolves, all of that, who was attempting to So
I think that this is more about the legalities more

(01:47:58):
than them, not all a he choosing what the name is.
So I don't fault them for this. This was the
only solution in the situation. Yeah, I just I can't
believe people. You know, people just look for something to
complain about, you know, and people are mad that, oh
they're gonna solve facts matter, Who's who's going to who's
going to buy that merchandise if they're already going to
change their name. You know what, facts matter, Some facts matter,

(01:48:19):
facts do matter, Facts do matter. Some people will buy
a Washington football team sweatshirt and then next year they'll
buy whatever their new nickname is. So it's it's gonna
be fine. People worry about stuff to collectors item exactly.
The present Super Bowl champions, of course, the Kansas City Chiefs,
and earlier today, during a television interview, Chiefs wide receiver

(01:48:40):
Tyreek Hill said he's thirsty for more, a lot more.
Tyreek Hill predicts that the Chiefs are going to win
seven Super Bowls. Listen, not three, not full, not five,
not six, not seven. Sorry sorry as a press press

(01:49:00):
the wrong button there, I apologize I missorted the directory.
Here was Tyreek Hill earlier today, Chris Joe. He's definitely
a man of his words. We're definitely creating some special
here in Casey. So I don't see why not why
say five? Why not go seven? Marines? Right now? We
just chasing joy, So I'm going over five and I'm
saying seven. I like Lebron's better. But anyway, that's that's

(01:49:21):
what Tyreek Hills did today. Yeah, that's gonna happen. J unreal. Oh,
I'm not mad at I'm not mad at his enthusiasm,
but I am, um, you know, I don't think it's
rooted in reality. So you know, I mean, what what
else are you supposed to say? We're not trying to

(01:49:43):
win championships? Of course, you're trying to win as many
as humanly possible, But will you get the seventh? No,
Tom Brady's not even the seven. So if you get
to three or four, you have already like mission accomplished.
So yeah, it's unrealistic, but I like his spirit. Yeah,
well no, it's I don't think it's a matter of

(01:50:03):
what are he's supposed to say. I think it's a
matter of realize what you just did, Realize what happened
the year before that could show you how difficult it
is to win a super Bowl, Like having an offsides
call that that prevented you from going to the Super Bowl,
or what it took you to win super Bowl fifty
four when you were down by double digits and needed
a third down almost Hail Mary past two Tyreek kill

(01:50:25):
to keep the the game alive. There's a lot that
that can happen, and so so to not realize that
that's you don't have to it's absurd. The press, all right,
the NHL Seattle Crack and George, what do you think
about that name for the thirty second franchise in the
National Hockey League. I don't mind it at all. Actually,

(01:50:47):
I really like it. I think that that's a good
name for a franchise. Yeah, I don't. I don't hate
it it. I I like it. I like the logo
and if you see the set Can Dary logo, it's
an anchor. Basically, it's an anchor, but the the middle
part of the anchor is UH shaped as the space needle,

(01:51:10):
which is it's really really cool. I really like the name.
I know people will hate on that, but I'm gonna
stay positive. I am with you that I can appreciate
the Seattle cracking as the NHL team. George, you and
I'll do it again on Sunday. How about that? He's
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