December 7, 2021 • 39 mins
Doug breaks down the controversial exchange between a Bills reporter and two members of the Bills' defense after the Monday Night loss to the Patriots. . Doug thinks reporter Jerry Sullivan chose incorrectly when he used the word "embarrassing" in a question to Micah Hyde and Jordan Poyer. NFL Analyst for NBC Sports Chris Simms joins Doug for his weekly hit to cover the major headlines coming out of week 13 of the NFL season. Plus, Dan Beyer takes Doug through a game of "Rank 'Em".
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Tug got Leave Show? Fox Sports. I hope you're having
a great day. Let's do a little broadcasting one oh one?
All right, So what you listen to is the guy
who is uh? I I consider myself pretty good at
doing the old interview and thing. Um. I have had
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a lot of help along the way, and I do
have people I've patterned my game after. But I think,
like what we do and how we do it, there's
a bit of an art to it. Um. I think
Dan Patrick is an artiste. But again, his his radio
show is different than when he's been at the podium
for the Super Bowl, Right, and things. You've got people
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in your ear, you've got time constraints, you gotta get
certain people in. There's things you can't really ask about, etcetera, etcetera.
Every interview is is different. Last night, the New England
Patriots beat the Buffalo Bills. It wasn't a dominating performance.
Bills had had the ball chance to win late Paul
in the red zone and Josh Allen could not get
the ball, could not matriculate the ball down the field
enough where they lost. It was a fourteen to ten
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and they had just missed a field goal just you know,
by a couple inches on the previous possession because of
the wind, where a ball that looked like it was
going in swung wide to the right. That field goal
goals in. They kick another field goal, they win the game,
and the Bills still don't cover and they still don't
hit the over, but at least they win the game.
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So after the game you look down the statue, like
the Patriots to the ball three times, they had two completion,
one was a little screen pass and one wow. So
at the podium you gotta ask guys about it, right,
it's the question everybody wants to know. Here's Jerry Sullivan
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has been covering the team for years. Here's the question
from Jerry Sullivan. The answer from Jordan's player and Micah Hyde.
Forty years since the team that won a game. Running
a few times in a game, I mean passing that
a few times? Is that embarrassing? I mean, what kind
what are we doing? Bro? What kind of question is that?
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All right? I think we I think seven points we
may stop. So we had too. They had one big run.
I mean they got good backs. They are they kept
coming back to a couple of runs. Mean, I don't
know how you wanted to answer that question. That's funny.
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Do remember that? I remember that? Remember that? Oh? Remember that?
Like I I thought Michael Hyde was like, look, we
answer your questions every when he's walking. I was like,
I will answer your questions every week. Like that was
uncalled for. I don't think the question itself, in in
terms of what he was trying to get to, was wrong.
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But look, there's a there's a a way, a tactful
way to ask the question and get Micah Hyde and
Jordan's Poyer to say that was embarrassing. There's a there's
a way to get there. So when I was at ESPN,
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there's a guy named John Sawatski. John Swatzsky's Canadian a
and he teaches like a master class. He actual she
was on her contract there and worked there and it
was like our interview specialist. And among the tips, you
know you don't ask double headers, and you know double headers, no,
not in baseball. Double header is uh micah, why did
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you guy? You know, what was it like to to
play in this weather? And did it help you? Because
you knew they weren't gonna throw like that would be
a double header. And and the logic behind it is,
if you ask two questions, they don't have to answer.
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Either they can go their own way or they answer
the one that they want to answer and they don't
answer the other one. Right, So you don't ask a
double header. You ask open ended, neutral questions, who, what, when? Why? Where? How?
But one of the tricks that frankly Larry Ing used
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to try used and he would get away with it
at times, but it's actually the wrong way to get
the best answer. Again, this is and if you you
take this like course, you'll watch video on it, Larry King,
or you shocked by what you saw, Larry I was
shocked by what I saw. Right, it's a you're planting
a word in somebody's mind to try and get them
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to say it, and sometimes it works, right, But that's
called using a trigger word. And oftentimes what happens is
who you're interviewing actually responds to the trigger word and
not to the question. And that's what happened here, Like
that they kind of gave a little bit of a
pretty good answer or whatever, like, look, we only have
a fourteen points, they had one big run, we got
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some stops. Whatever had you simply asked, like, guys, no
team had and yeah, you can do the statement effect
no teams won with that field passes in forty years.
What's your reaction to being the defense that loses that game?
That's a fair question. And then they said, if if
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Michael Hides has looked then three passes, it's kind of embarrassing.
Now embarrassing becomes the headline. But you can't say, were
you embarrassed? How embarrassing was it? Emarrited, because then all
anybody reacts to is the embarrassed. They don't even hear,
they don't even hear anything else. They didn't hear. It's
been forty years. They don't care. I simply embarrassed because
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everybody takes those trigger words and it's is that it
triggers a lack of trust with the media. Well, we'll
remember that we'll remember that because it's embarrassing. Right, there's
not anybody in that defensesn't walk in Like, dude, really,
we lost to a rookie quarterback who threw the ball
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three times. Come on, man, that's kind of embarrassing. Either
kind of or is embarrassing. But you can't ask embarrassing
the question because all they respond too is the embarrassing
that puts them on the defensive, and it it actually
kills the interview. I making sense, Jay, Still, in terms
of the trigger word, did you ever heard that? Absolutely? Yeah,
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And and I think that there was a I think
the players you have them at the at the very
wrong time to ask a question like that. But I
don't think you even ask it that question that way
on a Tuesday, right, I mean time and place for sure.
But I think that's an inappropriate way to ask that
question at any point, correct, just in that way. Yes,
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it's not about appropriate. Inappropriate, just that's not how you
asked the question because you're not going to get any
response to the question. You get response simply to the
to the word you know, too embarrassing that that's that's
what happens, uh, Buyer. I mean, I'm not I'm not
wrong thinking it is embarrassing to lose to a team
that has rookie quarterback completes three passes, right, I guess
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on some level there is, but but you can't ask
it in the way in which they asked it. I
I it's a very very strong word. And I was
just even trying to think of of you know, being
here and and the relationship that the players and uh,
the reporter had. If I did an update that maybe
I made a mistake or two and John Ramo said
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to me, are you embarrassed by that update that you
just did? I'd be very mad at John, even though
we had a working relationship and I've known him for
more than a decade, even to even have that, to
even have that word in there, like, I understand that
it clouds everything else. But it's just, man, that's a
strong word when you, you know, put your heart and
soul into what you try to do and it is
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performance based. And I don't want to say that they
had a bad night, um, but yeah, it's just a
that's just a bad word to use. I mean, it's
you could ask what their emotions were after seeing New
England run for you know, forty six times for two
d and twenty some mod yards. But to put that
motion in there, you know, you could have been like
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you guys, ticked off for you guys. Uh, you know anything,
but embarrass is just a strong word. Uh, it is
a strong word. It was. It is embarrassing the right
like you know, again, Damian Harriss had like sixty of
those yards on you know, on on one run and
so you know, breaks a level into their point. They
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new England scored fourteen points. I mean, it's I thought,
I look, I thought they actually answered the question. They're like, no,
we actually got some stops. They had one big run, right,
one big run, and and it's really hard to not
call out your offense, like you know, the offense to
exactly help us out a field goal. You know. But
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I I do think that it's fair to say, like,
if you look down today at the box score, you're like, wait,
they lost to a team we had completed two passes
and through three at home. That's embarrassing. I don't think
it's actually as strong. It's strong to ask somebody if
you're embarrassed, it's not strong. I don't think it's all
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that wrong to be embarrassed. Yeah, I think that's a difference, right,
I think I think the calumnists could make the conclusion
that it was embarrassing, and a player could actually offer
that up. But to ask it in a question, that's
that's the crux of the problem. Well that that's the
whole thing is you have to allow somebody's this is
what what Larry King used to do. Late Larry King
used to were you shocked by what you saw? And
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then they'll just go like, no, Larry wasn't shocked, or
yeah I was shocked, and said what was your reaction
to what you saw, Larry? I was shocked? Like that's
really the way to get to get to it. Instead
you're trying to get your trying to get it and
trying too hard to get an answer. They'll give you
the answer. It may not be the one you want,
but they'll give you the one that that comes to
their mind. I don't know, man, it's kind of embarrassing,
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but but you know, like the truth, Like if you
look at the stats, is embarrassing that The truth is
they just had one run and the rest of the
time he got stops and it's really hard and windy
out there. And they had good they schemed it up,
restaur let them get away a little something. I don't know, Yes,
John Ramos, you know, I've always called the last couple
of years, I've always called what I've seen in the
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NFL it's a madification of the NFL, which is, you know,
going forward on fourth and you know, because that's what
you would do in a Madden game. And it's gotten
kind of haywire and out of control a lot of times.
I mean, what Detroit went for it on fourth down
in two at their own thirty yard line, up by
two points, so I mean, you know whatever. But some
of times are are reporters they seemed to madification themselves
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as well in these in these type of questions that
they want to kind of make things happen or or
get something going, get some some I would have to
ask the reporter, I mean, did that bother you did
that question? I mean he meant and I even cared
what we're all talking about today, whether or not we
thought it was a good question or a wrong question
or a bad question or at the wrong time. Maybe
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he don't care. Maybe like hey man, that's the way
I ask questions. That's the way it's gonna be and
so hey, I think if he has no problem with it,
and it sounded like they were going to ice him
out a little bit, is that what the point was
at the end, like, well, we'll remember that, like they're
gonna ice him a little bit later on if he
has any other questions or am I rea? Look, look
that's no, but I mean that's the that's the problem
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with with NFL players is like, um, this is a
problem with NBA players and maybe players super sensitive. You
ask him a question, I won't talk to you. Why.
I mean, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, right, like,
like it's it's I don't again, I don't think it
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was a good way to ask the question. I think
it's a bad way to ask questions. But I also
think that's like, okay, if we're being reasonable saying you
play fifty snaps on defense, right, so okay, and playing
fifty steps on defense, are you gonna do something wrong
make a mistake or two of those steps? Okay? So
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if he asked fifty questions as a reporter, you know,
allowed to ask the stinker right for sure? I like,
I don't I don't understand, like I I and I
don't know Jerry Sullivan, but I'm sure he's covered the
team for years, and you know, like I'm sure that
there's there's an element and and so like if you're
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a player, you don't like demand an apology like these
guys want you to apologize up to him, like no, no,
sorry is a bad question. Should ask in a different way. Okay,
we're good, let's move on, Like that's how should be.
Just like as a player, like, you know what, I
took the wrong angle. I was in the wrong coverage.
I got confused, Like all right, you know it's it's
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a lot like the touchdown run. Like I've seen a
lot of breakdowns of the touchdown run, and it's one
was very well blocked, two is a great read, and
three there's like two guys that take the wrong angle.
It's a different play if you don't. That's how that's
how sports works. It's literally that you take one wrong
angle can make you can give up a touchdown. Songs,
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two wrongs don't make a right in in this scenario.
I believe that the using of the word embarrassing is
more egregious than Micah Hyde's response to it, not saying that.
Micah Hyde's response was, you know, I approve of it,
but in the grand scheme of things, I think using
the word embarrasses just these guys have a working relationship,
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you know, right, and I'm not and I don't I
don't think if Michael Hyde that's that's it. But if
he just kind of chides him in the response, you know,
but if you if you then ice the guy out,
like we can talk to you because you asked a
bad question, like all right, come on, yea, which we
don't know they've done, if they've done or you know,
will do. I don't think so, by the way, to
your point of how he what Hyde said as he
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was leaving the podium, it seemed that maybe he had
some remorse or gave clarity on like, hey, we talked
to you every week. As he said, I don't know
if that's going to happen, but I I just just
using the word of especially if yeah, if if the
reporters allowed a one off mistake, then maybe you know,
in the conditions with their thirty winds and it's snowing
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and you know, you have no idea what's going off,
maybe they going on. Maybe they need a. You know,
maybe they need a break in in that scenario. Um, yeah,
maybe you needed time out. Maybe you need to take
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s A to listen live Doug Otlip Show Fox Sports Radio. So, um,
I thought, I always think this is funny, right, Like
we always kind of shoot the messenger, right. But Jeremy
Fowler worked for ESPN covers the NFL, and uh, he shared.
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He shared that he had surveyed a bunch of different
coaches and he said that the league that one defensive
coach said he thinks the league is going to figure
out Lamar Jackson this year. So Jeremy Fowler is not
saying the league figured him out. Jeremy Fowler's for laying
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what one coach in the league had to say. Um,
what what he said was quote I think, and he
said this on a radio show. I think the questions
that some teams have is if they get behind, can
Lamar throw times and win games? Bring it back with
his arms? Bring it back with his arm? Um. There
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was comments from a defensive coach in the NFL it
felt like the league it figured about make a Fitzpatrick
played for the Dolphins, traded to the Steelers, Steelers or
arrival of the Ravens. They just beat the Ravens. Obviously
at two point conversion was no good and so they
won twenty nineteen. Here's make a Fitzpatrick. And if the
Steelers have figured out Lamar Jackson, I don't think anybody
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would ever be able to figure Lamar Jackson out. The
type of player that you use, uh, and the problems
that he causes for teams. Uh. You know, it is
nothing that you can just figure out. What I'm saying,
I think we played well twice a year. We have
kind of a v from you know, how he plays,
and what you like should do is is everybody doing
the job front, you know, keep him in the pocket,
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in the back end, lending in bos, going over hand
anything this, you know, throwing in front of us, coming
up and attacking us. So just uh team effort in
regards to, you know, limiting their big play villain. There
are a lot of people around the league that I
speak to that are a little a little slick. They
say they might this might be the year that everyone
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figures out Lamar Jackson. There's this sort of feeling right now.
He can definitely prove that wrong, but I think there's
a little bit of pressure on him that that was
Those are the comments. Okay, so let's look at the
reality of it. How has Lamar Jackson played recently? Not great? Right,
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And for a guy who's been in the world and
now he's not the only one who's had great seasons,
and there have been, you know, some moments where you're
not that not not I mean Aaron Rodgers two years
ago was so so. Last year of the worldly, he's
been really good, with a couple of exceptions. This year.
Lamar Jackson this year, okay, has sixteen touchdowns, thirteen in receptions.
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I remember they they survived his two picks against Minnesota.
You go back to when they lost. This is the
last five games. They lose to Cincinnati, one seventeen. He's
fifteen of thirty one to seven, one touchdown. Most of
those yards relate. They beat Minnesota in a furious comeback.
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He did throw two picks against Miami. It doesn't even
matter the numbers twenty six and forty three touchdown in reception.
They were bad. They scored sixteen points to be Cleveland
and they won despite four interceptions, and he was okay
this week two and fifty three yards, one touchdown, one reception.
They lose to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Obviously he led them
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on a comeback late. Like I, I don't we take
it as like some defaming some. Basically, I think what
happens is people war defenders of Lamar. They they want
to get on the platform and say that he's define
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herbly great always great. Great players can have bad years.
Teams leagues can figure out what you do and then
you have to evolve and improve. But but I mean,
you know, help me out here. How is it wrong?
He wasn't even great when they they need the Chargers,
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they were so far ahead. He threw two picks it
it didn't didn't hurt him. He has had an incredible
career so far. This has been his most average year
throwing the football. At times, there have been remarkable performances.
The Indie comeback was spectacular. The Chargers win was outstanding.
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He hadn't been good since. Chris Simms is our guest
NBC Sports NFL analyst. Um, what's your reaction to what
we saw last night in Buffalo? Well, I mean, come on, amazement.
I mean, there's two things that amazed me. First off,
that a team one in the year throwing the ball
three times right, and then really that team also so
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scared to kick, punt the ball, throw the ball into
the bad win. And then also you got like, oh, hey,
Josh Allen doesn't matter to him. We just we gotta
keep throwing lasers and heat threw lasers into hurricanes winds
all night long. I think those two things were both amazing.
I don't think the telecasts made a big enough deal
about the fact that wait, one team wasn't throwing it.
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And then we were talking about the elements and there
was a quarterback with such great physical talent and arm
that he was throwing fifty yard lasers down the field
that got dropped and then throwing on the run into
the wind thirty yard lasers. So I found both of
those kind of amazing from last night. Was it a
mistake for Buffalo to throw the football? No, I don't.
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I don't think so at all. I mean, they have
no chance of running the football all. That's that's for sure.
That's not what they are. It's stung for them the
fact that, you know, a wendy night like that, that
of course was you know, a big issue for them
to have to deal with. I honestly think, you know,
they didn't open it up early enough. I think they
were a little too conservative early, thinking wait, we don't
want to ruin the game. And I think once they realized, wait,
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we have to have him throw the ball a little bit.
You saw that he could control it. You know, I'm
sure it wasn't easy on the receivers, but man, perfect spirals,
you know, put a long touchdown pass on the money
to the Stefon Diggs, which I'm sure it wasn't easy
to adjust to. But hey, this is the problem with Buffalo.
It's one dimensional. It's all Josh Allen. You could see.
It's not great talent on the offensive side of the ball.
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It's Diggs and Allen that's it. Defensively, it's really good.
They play hard. You know there is talent, But as
I told you, I think last week a little bit,
they're under size. That's a small front seven. And when
they have to play teams like the Titans, the culture
the Patriots man, they have to overplay the run to
such an extend that it really compromises him. Honestly, Doug.
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As the game went on, you know, the fact that
New England wasn't throwing the ball just a little bit,
I thought started to hurt them too, because I was like,
there's ten guys within seven yards of the line of scrimmage.
A play action pass or a boot leg gonna gash them.
But you know, Bill Belichick, I'm not gonna question him
too much. He seems to know what he's doing. Okay,
So so help me out here. Um, can the Patriots
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win in the playoffs? The playoffs it's a different level.
I know you won last night, and there's gonna be weather,
especially if they're at home in the playoffs. But can
can this team win in the playoffs? I don't see
why not. I don't you know. I know I've said
to you when I've really kind of been like through
the last five six weeks on my podcast and and
Pro Football Talk going this is two thousand one all
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over again. It's the best defense in football for my money,
as far as versatility scheme, you know, talent at the
right positions, and then offensively, I do think it's an
elite running game. I mean elite. It's up there with
the best in football. And I think you couple that
with the fact that they've certainly seem to have learned
to play the New England way. They don't make money
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mistakes here over this winning Street and mac Jones again,
you know, I know, not last night, but all the
other weeks up to this has shown growth in all
areas and especially the taking advantage of what's they're down
the field areas of Yeah, I mean, I have no
bones about it. New England is the best team in
the a f C. It's just not gonna be sexy
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and people gotta get used to that. It's gonna be
you know, fourteen, it's gonna be seventeen. That's what they are.
That's what they were to start their dynasty, and they're
kind of back to that, you know once again. Doug
Otlib show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the voice
of Chris Sims. He joins the Sun Fox Sports Radio. Um, okay,
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there'll there will be people that I say, well, look,
the Chiefs are winning, the Chiefs have there in first place,
and they tougher division. Why aren't you as bullish on
the Chiefs? Uh? How's Pat Mahomes playing well? I mean
last week was you know, average, That's all I can
really say. You know, I have faith in their defense.
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Their defense, you know, I think I told you since
they lost the Tennessee three. I think from that moment,
even that game, I think I came on the week
after saying, you know, the defense did pretty good. It's
the offense is an issue, you know. But then twenty
points against the Giants, thirteen points against the Packers, nineteen
points against the Cowboys. I mean, the only time they've
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looked good over the last month and a half was
against the Las Vegas Raiders. So I certainly have issues
with their offense. Again, it's gotten a little bit better
but not to where I go, oh wow. And then
again you saw like the disease of stupidness rear its
ugly had again last last week. Whether it was you know,
Tyree Kill not being able to catch balls, Brian Pringle
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having a short post down the middle that's gonna bring
them under the five or six yard line. If not
score touchdown he drops it, then it's you know, Mahomes
missing throws that I go, man, my old high school
quarterback should hit that, let alone Patrick Mahomes. So that's
where it's just frustrating with Kansas City, and I don't
I don't know. Maybe this is just what it is.
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I think that's what we got to accept it for now.
You know it's it's third week fourteen. I think that's
what they are this year. Just an ugly offense with
a defense that's improved, physical and in your face. And
my thing, Doug would I'll say, just my pet peeve
about that game against the Broncos, like everybody stopped the
narrative of the last three years, Oh, you gotta score
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touchdowns to beat the Chiefs. Why why they scored thirteen points?
They scored nineteen points, twenty points, Like we've talked about
Vic Fangio. You drive nineties six yards, kicked the freaking
field goal down ten three field goals can beat the Chiefs.
That was stupid on their part. But I do like
what I see from the Chiefs defense, Doug, There's no
doubt about that, and somewhat hopeful for the offense. But
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I think we just need to come to terms that
this might be what it is. Stuck gotlib show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, So I was bullish on
the Niners. Then they go up and lose to the Seahawks. Now,
they always lose in Seattle since Pete Carroll has been there.
But is there is there something I'm missing on why
the Niners aren't better? Well, I think I think, you know,
the devot factor and the fact that he's the most
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important non quarterback to his team and all all right,
now it's him and Jonathan Taylor. So the fact that
they didn't have him, they didn't have Fred Warner. You know,
Pete Carroll and Ken Norton Jr. They do seem to
have a feel for, you know, the Shanahan offense to
a degree. But man, the game seventeen seven and then
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it's too roughly the pass, their penalties and a good
pass by Russell, and it's a touchdown with by Seattle
before the half, and then it's the fumble on the
kick return and then it's okay, yeah, you get the
ball back, but then you get a safety off of
the turner over, so that hurts you, followed by a
bad Jimmy g interception. So they kind of got back
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into like the disease they had about four or five
weeks ago, to where it kind of just screwed the
game up. I mean, of course, letting a punt go
for a seventy five yard touchdown on a fake punt.
I'm not giving up on the Niners yet, but they
do seem to have that little disease a little bit
like we talked about with Kansas City, where every time
you think things you're kind of going the right way,
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they find ways to screw it up. It's and and
there's a difference to me too, people go, well, well,
maybe this team caused that, and I'm gonna go, hey,
there's there's a difference between like WHOA, this team is
being physically overwhelmed and now they're messing things up as
compared to wait, they're doing whatever they want and then
they mess it up. And that's what I look at
that game from last week. Disappointing for them, certainly, but
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hopefully they can rebound. I'm not giving up on them.
Long story short, Doug, not yet. Did you have you
getting up on the Chargers. Well, the Chargers, Like, I
don't know what to think of them, you know, I don't.
I don't think they're a great football team. I think
that they're a good football team that matches up well
with you know, certain teams in the A f C.
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But you know again, yes, in that game, they're um
they they sorry, somebody was calling me on that game.
There they they They never stopped Cincinnati either. It was
a little bit of Cincinnati messing things up, whether it
was the strip stacked bumble jamaar cha is gonna catch
a sixty yard bomb down the sideline, tips it in
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the air to get intercepted. So again, I like the Chargers,
But am I sould as them as a Super Bowl
caliber team? No playoff wild card team? Sure, I'll say that,
but I still think like the Colts, who are outside
looking in right now, are better than the Chargers. In
my opinion. I like the Colts a lot two weeks ago.
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I can't explain two weeks ago that you know, the
loss to was that Minneapolis they should have had that.
I felt like, should have had that game one. But
I'm I'm with you, I'm with you on on Indie. Um, okay,
last team and then and then we we gotta run.
I'm is to a good Are they just playing like?
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How have they gone from? Okay, they're gonna trade for
Deshaun Watson too. Now they're winning some games. Well, they
just gone all in to make it work for two of.
That's the biggest thing I think I come up with.
First off, the defenses on fire. I mean I don't
know them and the Patriots. I don't know if there's
two defenses you know, playing better football over the last
month than the Dolphins of the Patriot you know, offensively.
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Where I gotta give George Gatzi and some of their
offensive guys credit is they've just Hey, you can win
with two of. This is what we've always said. You
just have to do it a certain way. You know,
you go back and last week, the week before that,
you look at where he throws the ball. I mean,
they just designed nine million ways for him to throw
the ball five and ten yards over the middle. You know,
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it's speed sweeps. It's speed sweeps that kind of stretch
you out horizontally, and then they look for a little
holes in the middle of the field that that fit
TOA and his ability where he gout quick release. He's
got a few different arm angles and he's accurate anywhere
from like ten to fifteen yards in the middle of
the field, you know, So you can win that way.
It's just hard, and of course you're gonna play some defenses.
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A're gonna be able to match up and take that away.
And then you go, well, that can he make throws
to win us those games? And that's where I don't know,
you know, but good defense, run the ball, you know,
high percentage passes, yeah, TOA can make that work along
with the way they're playing right now. And I think
that's why it's working there in Miami. Has a league
figured out Lamar Jackson. I don't want to say I
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don't think it's figured out. I don't. I don't. You know,
Lamar has not played his best, uh necessarily the last
few weeks. He did a lot of good things in
this Pittsburgh game. Yeah, he missed a few throws and
had a few moments. But it's like we've always talked about, Doug.
They were built to dominate in the run game. They've
got injuries on the old one. They don't have a
special tailback, you know, and their past game it's solid,
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but it's nothing special. And I mean that not just
because of Lamar Jackson. I mean because I just watched
the film at Pittsburgh Defense against Baltimore and go, I
mean the plays are kind of boring to me. They're
kind of okay. Yet see that plays, seen that play
fifty times this year, you know, so there's never anything
where I look at in the past game to go,
oh wow, that's a good idea. Whoa. I like what
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they're doing this week. It's kind of the same formula
week after week. And if the run game doesn't work,
you know, some of the issues in the past game
kind of rear its ugly head. Chris, you're the best man.
Thanks so much for join us. We'll talk to you
next week, all right, Doug, be good, buddy. That's an
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be talking about a Pat's Bucks Super Bowl. Rank your
top three super Bowl matchup that you'd like to see
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in Super Bowl fifty six, Well, that would be number one.
I'd be number one. Um. The number two would be
I would love to see mm hmm uh boy. I'm
torn between two two different ones that I'm uh you know,
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like I know people would say, hey, I'd like to
see another matchup of Tom Brady versus Pat Mahomes, Like,
I don't know, do they really I would like to
see the Baltimore Ravens, and the Baltimore Ravens take on
the Arizona Cardinals, right, I think that's again that that's
(34:43):
to me. Or now the Baltimore Ravens to the Dallas Cowboys.
Right then you have to dynamic younger quarterbacks, right, kind
of going at it. I do think that the Cardinals,
it just doesn't have the following. So I'll go Ravens
Cowboys at three, Buccaneers Chiefs at two, and Brady versus
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You know, we haven't had that Mahomes Rogers showdown, Change, Change,
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three is Buccaneers Chiefs rematch. I do think that there's like, hey,
we ever get Lamar against the Cowboys, that'd be really
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Lamar and that Super would be really cool just because
he's He's like a video game, even if I don't
think they're gonna get there. Doug, rank your top four
when it comes to the Heisman finalists. The four were
named yesterday. What would your ballot be if you submitted one?
That's a great question. Um, okay, so again this is
if I were submitting a ballot for the highest control. Yeah,
(35:48):
with these four finalists, right right, I can't just I
can't just make up, right, I can't just go like,
oh hey I want yeah, well I would not put that.
I would I put Through Sanders in the Heisman Trophy,
your quarterback, that's all. Um, okay I would do. I
(36:11):
think Aidan Hutchinson would be second, right, So she um, okay,
So the Heisman finalists, I'm gonna say, m hm m hmmm. Okay,
I'm gonna go number four, okay, Number four is going
(36:35):
to be c J. Stroud. Number three is Kenny Pickett.
Number two is Aidan Hutchinson. Number one of you, Bryce Shaw?
All right, I actually think that's how it's going to
play out, to be honest with you, I think that's
is uh, that is what we are going to see
on Saturday, all right, Doug Steph Curry close to uh
(36:57):
being the leader and three point shooting in the very
near few. Your rank your top three point shooters in
NBA history. I know we did one one time of
like who do you like who looks the best in
shooting the three? But actually just marksman in NBA history?
Rank your top three I'll do wow. Uh, they just
(37:24):
didn't shoot enough back in the day. No, but you
got you know, Larry Legend. You got Mark Price, Grent Price,
Brent Price, Del Curry, Yeah, Del Curry. I'll go Mark
Price three. Clay Thompson to Steph Curry one. All right,
(37:46):
Doug produce number one in the country in college basketball,
first time they've ever been number one. I know this
may be difficult because you call games. So if you
don't want to do this, it's fine, Okay, rank your
top three schools you'd like to see win an n
C double a hoops title. Oh like to see when
one that's yeah, um, good for them, yeah, good for
(38:06):
good for you. Number one would be Gonzaga, right, I
like the execut to win it. Number two would be
per Due. Uh, they've been to the final four before.
Of course, that's the the where John wouldn't actually played
the statue out front of him as well as coached. O. Dam,
(38:27):
I like to see win it like a good for you? Uh,
it's Duke right, No, you seen that. I will go
with the joke. I'm gonna go with Xavier x marks
the spot like they've been an incredible kind of mid
(38:47):
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I've seen just about everybody else compete. You know, a
butler would be one, but they have no chances here.
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Tug got Leave Show? Fox Sports. I hope you're having
a great day. Let's do a little broadcasting one oh one?
All right, So what you listen to is the guy
who is uh? I I consider myself pretty good at
doing the old interview and thing. Um. I have had
(00:48):
a lot of help along the way, and I do
have people I've patterned my game after. But I think,
like what we do and how we do it, there's
a bit of an art to it. Um. I think
Dan Patrick is an artiste. But again, his his radio
show is different than when he's been at the podium
for the Super Bowl, Right, and things. You've got people
(01:10):
in your ear, you've got time constraints, you gotta get
certain people in. There's things you can't really ask about, etcetera, etcetera.
Every interview is is different. Last night, the New England
Patriots beat the Buffalo Bills. It wasn't a dominating performance.
Bills had had the ball chance to win late Paul
in the red zone and Josh Allen could not get
the ball, could not matriculate the ball down the field
enough where they lost. It was a fourteen to ten
(01:33):
and they had just missed a field goal just you know,
by a couple inches on the previous possession because of
the wind, where a ball that looked like it was
going in swung wide to the right. That field goal
goals in. They kick another field goal, they win the game,
and the Bills still don't cover and they still don't
hit the over, but at least they win the game.
(01:56):
So after the game you look down the statue, like
the Patriots to the ball three times, they had two completion,
one was a little screen pass and one wow. So
at the podium you gotta ask guys about it, right,
it's the question everybody wants to know. Here's Jerry Sullivan
(02:19):
has been covering the team for years. Here's the question
from Jerry Sullivan. The answer from Jordan's player and Micah Hyde.
Forty years since the team that won a game. Running
a few times in a game, I mean passing that
a few times? Is that embarrassing? I mean, what kind
what are we doing? Bro? What kind of question is that?
(02:43):
All right? I think we I think seven points we
may stop. So we had too. They had one big run.
I mean they got good backs. They are they kept
coming back to a couple of runs. Mean, I don't
know how you wanted to answer that question. That's funny.
(03:07):
Do remember that? I remember that? Remember that? Oh? Remember that?
Like I I thought Michael Hyde was like, look, we
answer your questions every when he's walking. I was like,
I will answer your questions every week. Like that was
uncalled for. I don't think the question itself, in in
terms of what he was trying to get to, was wrong.
(03:32):
But look, there's a there's a a way, a tactful
way to ask the question and get Micah Hyde and
Jordan's Poyer to say that was embarrassing. There's a there's
a way to get there. So when I was at ESPN,
(03:53):
there's a guy named John Sawatski. John Swatzsky's Canadian a
and he teaches like a master class. He actual she
was on her contract there and worked there and it
was like our interview specialist. And among the tips, you
know you don't ask double headers, and you know double headers, no,
not in baseball. Double header is uh micah, why did
(04:18):
you guy? You know, what was it like to to
play in this weather? And did it help you? Because
you knew they weren't gonna throw like that would be
a double header. And and the logic behind it is,
if you ask two questions, they don't have to answer.
(04:39):
Either they can go their own way or they answer
the one that they want to answer and they don't
answer the other one. Right, So you don't ask a
double header. You ask open ended, neutral questions, who, what, when? Why? Where? How?
But one of the tricks that frankly Larry Ing used
(05:00):
to try used and he would get away with it
at times, but it's actually the wrong way to get
the best answer. Again, this is and if you you
take this like course, you'll watch video on it, Larry King,
or you shocked by what you saw, Larry I was
shocked by what I saw. Right, it's a you're planting
a word in somebody's mind to try and get them
(05:22):
to say it, and sometimes it works, right, But that's
called using a trigger word. And oftentimes what happens is
who you're interviewing actually responds to the trigger word and
not to the question. And that's what happened here, Like
that they kind of gave a little bit of a
pretty good answer or whatever, like, look, we only have
a fourteen points, they had one big run, we got
(05:43):
some stops. Whatever had you simply asked, like, guys, no
team had and yeah, you can do the statement effect
no teams won with that field passes in forty years.
What's your reaction to being the defense that loses that game?
That's a fair question. And then they said, if if
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Michael Hides has looked then three passes, it's kind of embarrassing.
Now embarrassing becomes the headline. But you can't say, were
you embarrassed? How embarrassing was it? Emarrited, because then all
anybody reacts to is the embarrassed. They don't even hear,
they don't even hear anything else. They didn't hear. It's
been forty years. They don't care. I simply embarrassed because
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everybody takes those trigger words and it's is that it
triggers a lack of trust with the media. Well, we'll
remember that we'll remember that because it's embarrassing. Right, there's
not anybody in that defensesn't walk in Like, dude, really,
we lost to a rookie quarterback who threw the ball
(06:50):
three times. Come on, man, that's kind of embarrassing. Either
kind of or is embarrassing. But you can't ask embarrassing
the question because all they respond too is the embarrassing
that puts them on the defensive, and it it actually
kills the interview. I making sense, Jay, Still, in terms
of the trigger word, did you ever heard that? Absolutely? Yeah,
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And and I think that there was a I think
the players you have them at the at the very
wrong time to ask a question like that. But I
don't think you even ask it that question that way
on a Tuesday, right, I mean time and place for sure.
But I think that's an inappropriate way to ask that
question at any point, correct, just in that way. Yes,
(07:33):
it's not about appropriate. Inappropriate, just that's not how you
asked the question because you're not going to get any
response to the question. You get response simply to the
to the word you know, too embarrassing that that's that's
what happens, uh, Buyer. I mean, I'm not I'm not
wrong thinking it is embarrassing to lose to a team
that has rookie quarterback completes three passes, right, I guess
(07:56):
on some level there is, but but you can't ask
it in the way in which they asked it. I
I it's a very very strong word. And I was
just even trying to think of of you know, being
here and and the relationship that the players and uh,
the reporter had. If I did an update that maybe
I made a mistake or two and John Ramo said
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to me, are you embarrassed by that update that you
just did? I'd be very mad at John, even though
we had a working relationship and I've known him for
more than a decade, even to even have that, to
even have that word in there, like, I understand that
it clouds everything else. But it's just, man, that's a
strong word when you, you know, put your heart and
soul into what you try to do and it is
(08:40):
performance based. And I don't want to say that they
had a bad night, um, but yeah, it's just a
that's just a bad word to use. I mean, it's
you could ask what their emotions were after seeing New
England run for you know, forty six times for two
d and twenty some mod yards. But to put that
motion in there, you know, you could have been like
(09:02):
you guys, ticked off for you guys. Uh, you know anything,
but embarrass is just a strong word. Uh, it is
a strong word. It was. It is embarrassing the right
like you know, again, Damian Harriss had like sixty of
those yards on you know, on on one run and
so you know, breaks a level into their point. They
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new England scored fourteen points. I mean, it's I thought,
I look, I thought they actually answered the question. They're like, no,
we actually got some stops. They had one big run, right,
one big run, and and it's really hard to not
call out your offense, like you know, the offense to
exactly help us out a field goal. You know. But
(09:45):
I I do think that it's fair to say, like,
if you look down today at the box score, you're like, wait,
they lost to a team we had completed two passes
and through three at home. That's embarrassing. I don't think
it's actually as strong. It's strong to ask somebody if
you're embarrassed, it's not strong. I don't think it's all
(10:07):
that wrong to be embarrassed. Yeah, I think that's a difference, right,
I think I think the calumnists could make the conclusion
that it was embarrassing, and a player could actually offer
that up. But to ask it in a question, that's
that's the crux of the problem. Well that that's the
whole thing is you have to allow somebody's this is
what what Larry King used to do. Late Larry King
used to were you shocked by what you saw? And
(10:31):
then they'll just go like, no, Larry wasn't shocked, or
yeah I was shocked, and said what was your reaction
to what you saw, Larry? I was shocked? Like that's
really the way to get to get to it. Instead
you're trying to get your trying to get it and
trying too hard to get an answer. They'll give you
the answer. It may not be the one you want,
but they'll give you the one that that comes to
their mind. I don't know, man, it's kind of embarrassing,
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but but you know, like the truth, Like if you
look at the stats, is embarrassing that The truth is
they just had one run and the rest of the
time he got stops and it's really hard and windy
out there. And they had good they schemed it up,
restaur let them get away a little something. I don't know, Yes,
John Ramos, you know, I've always called the last couple
of years, I've always called what I've seen in the
(11:12):
NFL it's a madification of the NFL, which is, you know,
going forward on fourth and you know, because that's what
you would do in a Madden game. And it's gotten
kind of haywire and out of control a lot of times.
I mean, what Detroit went for it on fourth down
in two at their own thirty yard line, up by
two points, so I mean, you know whatever. But some
of times are are reporters they seemed to madification themselves
(11:36):
as well in these in these type of questions that
they want to kind of make things happen or or
get something going, get some some I would have to
ask the reporter, I mean, did that bother you did
that question? I mean he meant and I even cared
what we're all talking about today, whether or not we
thought it was a good question or a wrong question
or a bad question or at the wrong time. Maybe
(11:59):
he don't care. Maybe like hey man, that's the way
I ask questions. That's the way it's gonna be and
so hey, I think if he has no problem with it,
and it sounded like they were going to ice him
out a little bit, is that what the point was
at the end, like, well, we'll remember that, like they're
gonna ice him a little bit later on if he
has any other questions or am I rea? Look, look
that's no, but I mean that's the that's the problem
(12:20):
with with NFL players is like, um, this is a
problem with NBA players and maybe players super sensitive. You
ask him a question, I won't talk to you. Why.
I mean, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, right, like,
like it's it's I don't again, I don't think it
(12:40):
was a good way to ask the question. I think
it's a bad way to ask questions. But I also
think that's like, okay, if we're being reasonable saying you
play fifty snaps on defense, right, so okay, and playing
fifty steps on defense, are you gonna do something wrong
make a mistake or two of those steps? Okay? So
(13:02):
if he asked fifty questions as a reporter, you know,
allowed to ask the stinker right for sure? I like,
I don't I don't understand, like I I and I
don't know Jerry Sullivan, but I'm sure he's covered the
team for years, and you know, like I'm sure that
there's there's an element and and so like if you're
(13:23):
a player, you don't like demand an apology like these
guys want you to apologize up to him, like no, no,
sorry is a bad question. Should ask in a different way. Okay,
we're good, let's move on, Like that's how should be.
Just like as a player, like, you know what, I
took the wrong angle. I was in the wrong coverage.
I got confused, Like all right, you know it's it's
(13:43):
a lot like the touchdown run. Like I've seen a
lot of breakdowns of the touchdown run, and it's one
was very well blocked, two is a great read, and
three there's like two guys that take the wrong angle.
It's a different play if you don't. That's how that's
how sports works. It's literally that you take one wrong
angle can make you can give up a touchdown. Songs,
(14:07):
two wrongs don't make a right in in this scenario.
I believe that the using of the word embarrassing is
more egregious than Micah Hyde's response to it, not saying that.
Micah Hyde's response was, you know, I approve of it,
but in the grand scheme of things, I think using
the word embarrasses just these guys have a working relationship,
(14:29):
you know, right, and I'm not and I don't I
don't think if Michael Hyde that's that's it. But if
he just kind of chides him in the response, you know,
but if you if you then ice the guy out,
like we can talk to you because you asked a
bad question, like all right, come on, yea, which we
don't know they've done, if they've done or you know,
will do. I don't think so, by the way, to
your point of how he what Hyde said as he
(14:52):
was leaving the podium, it seemed that maybe he had
some remorse or gave clarity on like, hey, we talked
to you every week. As he said, I don't know
if that's going to happen, but I I just just
using the word of especially if yeah, if if the
reporters allowed a one off mistake, then maybe you know,
in the conditions with their thirty winds and it's snowing
(15:15):
and you know, you have no idea what's going off,
maybe they going on. Maybe they need a. You know,
maybe they need a break in in that scenario. Um, yeah,
maybe you needed time out. Maybe you need to take
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s A to listen live Doug Otlip Show Fox Sports Radio. So, um,
I thought, I always think this is funny, right, Like
we always kind of shoot the messenger, right. But Jeremy
Fowler worked for ESPN covers the NFL, and uh, he shared.
(16:23):
He shared that he had surveyed a bunch of different
coaches and he said that the league that one defensive
coach said he thinks the league is going to figure
out Lamar Jackson this year. So Jeremy Fowler is not
saying the league figured him out. Jeremy Fowler's for laying
(16:43):
what one coach in the league had to say. Um,
what what he said was quote I think, and he
said this on a radio show. I think the questions
that some teams have is if they get behind, can
Lamar throw times and win games? Bring it back with
his arms? Bring it back with his arm? Um. There
(17:08):
was comments from a defensive coach in the NFL it
felt like the league it figured about make a Fitzpatrick
played for the Dolphins, traded to the Steelers, Steelers or
arrival of the Ravens. They just beat the Ravens. Obviously
at two point conversion was no good and so they
won twenty nineteen. Here's make a Fitzpatrick. And if the
Steelers have figured out Lamar Jackson, I don't think anybody
(17:30):
would ever be able to figure Lamar Jackson out. The
type of player that you use, uh, and the problems
that he causes for teams. Uh. You know, it is
nothing that you can just figure out. What I'm saying,
I think we played well twice a year. We have
kind of a v from you know, how he plays,
and what you like should do is is everybody doing
the job front, you know, keep him in the pocket,
(17:52):
in the back end, lending in bos, going over hand
anything this, you know, throwing in front of us, coming
up and attacking us. So just uh team effort in
regards to, you know, limiting their big play villain. There
are a lot of people around the league that I
speak to that are a little a little slick. They
say they might this might be the year that everyone
(18:13):
figures out Lamar Jackson. There's this sort of feeling right now.
He can definitely prove that wrong, but I think there's
a little bit of pressure on him that that was
Those are the comments. Okay, so let's look at the
reality of it. How has Lamar Jackson played recently? Not great? Right,
(18:33):
And for a guy who's been in the world and
now he's not the only one who's had great seasons,
and there have been, you know, some moments where you're
not that not not I mean Aaron Rodgers two years
ago was so so. Last year of the worldly, he's
been really good, with a couple of exceptions. This year.
Lamar Jackson this year, okay, has sixteen touchdowns, thirteen in receptions.
(19:01):
I remember they they survived his two picks against Minnesota.
You go back to when they lost. This is the
last five games. They lose to Cincinnati, one seventeen. He's
fifteen of thirty one to seven, one touchdown. Most of
those yards relate. They beat Minnesota in a furious comeback.
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He did throw two picks against Miami. It doesn't even
matter the numbers twenty six and forty three touchdown in reception.
They were bad. They scored sixteen points to be Cleveland
and they won despite four interceptions, and he was okay
this week two and fifty three yards, one touchdown, one reception.
They lose to the Pittsburgh Steelers. Obviously he led them
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on a comeback late. Like I, I don't we take
it as like some defaming some. Basically, I think what
happens is people war defenders of Lamar. They they want
to get on the platform and say that he's define
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herbly great always great. Great players can have bad years.
Teams leagues can figure out what you do and then
you have to evolve and improve. But but I mean,
you know, help me out here. How is it wrong?
He wasn't even great when they they need the Chargers,
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they were so far ahead. He threw two picks it
it didn't didn't hurt him. He has had an incredible
career so far. This has been his most average year
throwing the football. At times, there have been remarkable performances.
The Indie comeback was spectacular. The Chargers win was outstanding.
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He hadn't been good since. Chris Simms is our guest
NBC Sports NFL analyst. Um, what's your reaction to what
we saw last night in Buffalo? Well, I mean, come on, amazement.
I mean, there's two things that amazed me. First off,
that a team one in the year throwing the ball
three times right, and then really that team also so
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scared to kick, punt the ball, throw the ball into
the bad win. And then also you got like, oh, hey,
Josh Allen doesn't matter to him. We just we gotta
keep throwing lasers and heat threw lasers into hurricanes winds
all night long. I think those two things were both amazing.
I don't think the telecasts made a big enough deal
about the fact that wait, one team wasn't throwing it.
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And then we were talking about the elements and there
was a quarterback with such great physical talent and arm
that he was throwing fifty yard lasers down the field
that got dropped and then throwing on the run into
the wind thirty yard lasers. So I found both of
those kind of amazing from last night. Was it a
mistake for Buffalo to throw the football? No, I don't.
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I don't think so at all. I mean, they have
no chance of running the football all. That's that's for sure.
That's not what they are. It's stung for them the
fact that, you know, a wendy night like that, that
of course was you know, a big issue for them
to have to deal with. I honestly think, you know,
they didn't open it up early enough. I think they
were a little too conservative early, thinking wait, we don't
want to ruin the game. And I think once they realized, wait,
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we have to have him throw the ball a little bit.
You saw that he could control it. You know, I'm
sure it wasn't easy on the receivers, but man, perfect spirals,
you know, put a long touchdown pass on the money
to the Stefon Diggs, which I'm sure it wasn't easy
to adjust to. But hey, this is the problem with Buffalo.
It's one dimensional. It's all Josh Allen. You could see.
It's not great talent on the offensive side of the ball.
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It's Diggs and Allen that's it. Defensively, it's really good.
They play hard. You know there is talent, But as
I told you, I think last week a little bit,
they're under size. That's a small front seven. And when
they have to play teams like the Titans, the culture
the Patriots man, they have to overplay the run to
such an extend that it really compromises him. Honestly, Doug.
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As the game went on, you know, the fact that
New England wasn't throwing the ball just a little bit,
I thought started to hurt them too, because I was like,
there's ten guys within seven yards of the line of scrimmage.
A play action pass or a boot leg gonna gash them.
But you know, Bill Belichick, I'm not gonna question him
too much. He seems to know what he's doing. Okay,
So so help me out here. Um, can the Patriots
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win in the playoffs? The playoffs it's a different level.
I know you won last night, and there's gonna be weather,
especially if they're at home in the playoffs. But can
can this team win in the playoffs? I don't see
why not. I don't you know. I know I've said
to you when I've really kind of been like through
the last five six weeks on my podcast and and
Pro Football Talk going this is two thousand one all
(23:49):
over again. It's the best defense in football for my money,
as far as versatility scheme, you know, talent at the
right positions, and then offensively, I do think it's an
elite running game. I mean elite. It's up there with
the best in football. And I think you couple that
with the fact that they've certainly seem to have learned
to play the New England way. They don't make money
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mistakes here over this winning Street and mac Jones again,
you know, I know, not last night, but all the
other weeks up to this has shown growth in all
areas and especially the taking advantage of what's they're down
the field areas of Yeah, I mean, I have no
bones about it. New England is the best team in
the a f C. It's just not gonna be sexy
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and people gotta get used to that. It's gonna be
you know, fourteen, it's gonna be seventeen. That's what they are.
That's what they were to start their dynasty, and they're
kind of back to that, you know once again. Doug
Otlib show here on Fox Sports Trader. That's the voice
of Chris Sims. He joins the Sun Fox Sports Radio. Um, okay,
(24:52):
there'll there will be people that I say, well, look,
the Chiefs are winning, the Chiefs have there in first place,
and they tougher division. Why aren't you as bullish on
the Chiefs? Uh? How's Pat Mahomes playing well? I mean
last week was you know, average, That's all I can
really say. You know, I have faith in their defense.
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Their defense, you know, I think I told you since
they lost the Tennessee three. I think from that moment,
even that game, I think I came on the week
after saying, you know, the defense did pretty good. It's
the offense is an issue, you know. But then twenty
points against the Giants, thirteen points against the Packers, nineteen
points against the Cowboys. I mean, the only time they've
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looked good over the last month and a half was
against the Las Vegas Raiders. So I certainly have issues
with their offense. Again, it's gotten a little bit better
but not to where I go, oh wow. And then
again you saw like the disease of stupidness rear its
ugly had again last last week. Whether it was you know,
Tyree Kill not being able to catch balls, Brian Pringle
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having a short post down the middle that's gonna bring
them under the five or six yard line. If not
score touchdown he drops it, then it's you know, Mahomes
missing throws that I go, man, my old high school
quarterback should hit that, let alone Patrick Mahomes. So that's
where it's just frustrating with Kansas City, and I don't
I don't know. Maybe this is just what it is.
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I think that's what we got to accept it for now.
You know it's it's third week fourteen. I think that's
what they are this year. Just an ugly offense with
a defense that's improved, physical and in your face. And
my thing, Doug would I'll say, just my pet peeve
about that game against the Broncos, like everybody stopped the
narrative of the last three years, Oh, you gotta score
(26:40):
touchdowns to beat the Chiefs. Why why they scored thirteen points?
They scored nineteen points, twenty points, Like we've talked about
Vic Fangio. You drive nineties six yards, kicked the freaking
field goal down ten three field goals can beat the Chiefs.
That was stupid on their part. But I do like
what I see from the Chiefs defense, Doug, There's no
doubt about that, and somewhat hopeful for the offense. But
(27:03):
I think we just need to come to terms that
this might be what it is. Stuck gotlib show here
on Fox Sports Radio. Okay, So I was bullish on
the Niners. Then they go up and lose to the Seahawks. Now,
they always lose in Seattle since Pete Carroll has been there.
But is there is there something I'm missing on why
the Niners aren't better? Well, I think I think, you know,
the devot factor and the fact that he's the most
(27:25):
important non quarterback to his team and all all right,
now it's him and Jonathan Taylor. So the fact that
they didn't have him, they didn't have Fred Warner. You know,
Pete Carroll and Ken Norton Jr. They do seem to
have a feel for, you know, the Shanahan offense to
a degree. But man, the game seventeen seven and then
(27:45):
it's too roughly the pass, their penalties and a good
pass by Russell, and it's a touchdown with by Seattle
before the half, and then it's the fumble on the
kick return and then it's okay, yeah, you get the
ball back, but then you get a safety off of
the turner over, so that hurts you, followed by a
bad Jimmy g interception. So they kind of got back
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into like the disease they had about four or five
weeks ago, to where it kind of just screwed the
game up. I mean, of course, letting a punt go
for a seventy five yard touchdown on a fake punt.
I'm not giving up on the Niners yet, but they
do seem to have that little disease a little bit
like we talked about with Kansas City, where every time
you think things you're kind of going the right way,
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they find ways to screw it up. It's and and
there's a difference to me too, people go, well, well,
maybe this team caused that, and I'm gonna go, hey,
there's there's a difference between like WHOA, this team is
being physically overwhelmed and now they're messing things up as
compared to wait, they're doing whatever they want and then
they mess it up. And that's what I look at
that game from last week. Disappointing for them, certainly, but
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hopefully they can rebound. I'm not giving up on them.
Long story short, Doug, not yet. Did you have you
getting up on the Chargers. Well, the Chargers, Like, I
don't know what to think of them, you know, I don't.
I don't think they're a great football team. I think
that they're a good football team that matches up well
with you know, certain teams in the A f C.
(29:13):
But you know again, yes, in that game, they're um
they they sorry, somebody was calling me on that game.
There they they They never stopped Cincinnati either. It was
a little bit of Cincinnati messing things up, whether it
was the strip stacked bumble jamaar cha is gonna catch
a sixty yard bomb down the sideline, tips it in
(29:36):
the air to get intercepted. So again, I like the Chargers,
But am I sould as them as a Super Bowl
caliber team? No playoff wild card team? Sure, I'll say that,
but I still think like the Colts, who are outside
looking in right now, are better than the Chargers. In
my opinion. I like the Colts a lot two weeks ago.
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I can't explain two weeks ago that you know, the
loss to was that Minneapolis they should have had that.
I felt like, should have had that game one. But
I'm I'm with you, I'm with you on on Indie. Um, okay,
last team and then and then we we gotta run.
I'm is to a good Are they just playing like?
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How have they gone from? Okay, they're gonna trade for
Deshaun Watson too. Now they're winning some games. Well, they
just gone all in to make it work for two of.
That's the biggest thing I think I come up with.
First off, the defenses on fire. I mean I don't
know them and the Patriots. I don't know if there's
two defenses you know, playing better football over the last
month than the Dolphins of the Patriot you know, offensively.
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Where I gotta give George Gatzi and some of their
offensive guys credit is they've just Hey, you can win
with two of. This is what we've always said. You
just have to do it a certain way. You know,
you go back and last week, the week before that,
you look at where he throws the ball. I mean,
they just designed nine million ways for him to throw
the ball five and ten yards over the middle. You know,
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it's speed sweeps. It's speed sweeps that kind of stretch
you out horizontally, and then they look for a little
holes in the middle of the field that that fit
TOA and his ability where he gout quick release. He's
got a few different arm angles and he's accurate anywhere
from like ten to fifteen yards in the middle of
the field, you know, So you can win that way.
It's just hard, and of course you're gonna play some defenses.
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A're gonna be able to match up and take that away.
And then you go, well, that can he make throws
to win us those games? And that's where I don't know,
you know, but good defense, run the ball, you know,
high percentage passes, yeah, TOA can make that work along
with the way they're playing right now. And I think
that's why it's working there in Miami. Has a league
figured out Lamar Jackson. I don't want to say I
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don't think it's figured out. I don't. I don't. You know,
Lamar has not played his best, uh necessarily the last
few weeks. He did a lot of good things in
this Pittsburgh game. Yeah, he missed a few throws and
had a few moments. But it's like we've always talked about, Doug.
They were built to dominate in the run game. They've
got injuries on the old one. They don't have a
special tailback, you know, and their past game it's solid,
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but it's nothing special. And I mean that not just
because of Lamar Jackson. I mean because I just watched
the film at Pittsburgh Defense against Baltimore and go, I
mean the plays are kind of boring to me. They're
kind of okay. Yet see that plays, seen that play
fifty times this year, you know, so there's never anything
where I look at in the past game to go,
oh wow, that's a good idea. Whoa. I like what
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they're doing this week. It's kind of the same formula
week after week. And if the run game doesn't work,
you know, some of the issues in the past game
kind of rear its ugly head. Chris, you're the best man.
Thanks so much for join us. We'll talk to you
next week, all right, Doug, be good, buddy. That's an
NBC Sports that fist. Chris Simms joining you. I'll give
you my top three Super Bowl matchups for this year next.
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topics today, we do so by playing a game. This
(33:40):
is game top on the Doug Gottlieb Show. Damn, Doug,
the game today is all right, Doug. You started off
the top of the show saying that people need to
be talking about a Pat's Bucks Super Bowl. Rank your
top three super Bowl matchup that you'd like to see
(34:01):
in Super Bowl fifty six, Well, that would be number one.
I'd be number one. Um. The number two would be
I would love to see mm hmm uh boy. I'm
torn between two two different ones that I'm uh you know,
(34:23):
like I know people would say, hey, I'd like to
see another matchup of Tom Brady versus Pat Mahomes, Like,
I don't know, do they really I would like to
see the Baltimore Ravens, and the Baltimore Ravens take on
the Arizona Cardinals, right, I think that's again that that's
(34:43):
to me. Or now the Baltimore Ravens to the Dallas Cowboys.
Right then you have to dynamic younger quarterbacks, right, kind
of going at it. I do think that the Cardinals,
it just doesn't have the following. So I'll go Ravens
Cowboys at three, Buccaneers Chiefs at two, and Brady versus
(35:04):
Belichick at one. I thought maybe we'd get a Packers Chiefs.
You know, we haven't had that Mahomes Rogers showdown, Change, Change,
go Ahead. Number three. Number two is Packers Chiefs. Number
three is Buccaneers Chiefs rematch. I do think that there's like, hey,
we ever get Lamar against the Cowboys, that'd be really
(35:25):
Lamar and that Super would be really cool just because
he's He's like a video game, even if I don't
think they're gonna get there. Doug, rank your top four
when it comes to the Heisman finalists. The four were
named yesterday. What would your ballot be if you submitted one?
That's a great question. Um, okay, so again this is
if I were submitting a ballot for the highest control. Yeah,
(35:48):
with these four finalists, right right, I can't just I
can't just make up, right, I can't just go like,
oh hey I want yeah, well I would not put that.
I would I put Through Sanders in the Heisman Trophy,
your quarterback, that's all. Um, okay I would do. I
(36:11):
think Aidan Hutchinson would be second, right, So she um, okay,
So the Heisman finalists, I'm gonna say, m hm m hmmm. Okay,
I'm gonna go number four, okay, Number four is going
(36:35):
to be c J. Stroud. Number three is Kenny Pickett.
Number two is Aidan Hutchinson. Number one of you, Bryce Shaw?
All right, I actually think that's how it's going to
play out, to be honest with you, I think that's
is uh, that is what we are going to see
on Saturday, all right, Doug Steph Curry close to uh
(36:57):
being the leader and three point shooting in the very
near few. Your rank your top three point shooters in
NBA history. I know we did one one time of
like who do you like who looks the best in
shooting the three? But actually just marksman in NBA history?
Rank your top three I'll do wow. Uh, they just
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didn't shoot enough back in the day. No, but you
got you know, Larry Legend. You got Mark Price, Grent Price,
Brent Price, Del Curry, Yeah, Del Curry. I'll go Mark
Price three. Clay Thompson to Steph Curry one. All right,
(37:46):
Doug produce number one in the country in college basketball,
first time they've ever been number one. I know this
may be difficult because you call games. So if you
don't want to do this, it's fine, Okay, rank your
top three schools you'd like to see win an n
C double a hoops title. Oh like to see when
one that's yeah, um, good for them, yeah, good for
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good for you. Number one would be Gonzaga, right, I
like the execut to win it. Number two would be
per Due. Uh, they've been to the final four before.
Of course, that's the the where John wouldn't actually played
the statue out front of him as well as coached. O. Dam,
(38:27):
I like to see win it like a good for you? Uh,
it's Duke right, No, you seen that. I will go
with the joke. I'm gonna go with Xavier x marks
the spot like they've been an incredible kind of mid
(38:47):
quasi hi major here. Now they're in the Big East.
I've seen just about everybody else compete. You know, a
butler would be one, but they have no chances here.
I'm gonna go with and the Musketeers are flowing is
here is your aunt seat m A tournament champions and
the musket Here's are flying away. Stuck gotlier show Fox
Sports traded that this is game time on the Duck
(39:11):
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