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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday,
first of years Today's news.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I am Glen Hart. We are looking back at Wednesday
work from home. It's on the app. Isn't it nothing
we can do about that? Marcus and impressions?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
But first up, so the Salvation Army state of the
nation is sort of highlighted homelessness again. I mean, I
know we shouldn't say it like that. I know we
shouldn't sound that we're bored with these reports that keep
coming out and saying that there's a lot of people
who can't, Hey the rent can't you know?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
They're out on the streets.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
But is this problem being exacerbated by the fact that
the coalition government's cracking down on crying or rent arears
and kicking people out.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
But if you haven't got any money left over in
your pocket at the end of the week, you can't
do anything about it. And yes, of course more help
is needed for people who are struggling, but help cost
money and where does that help come from? When a
country's in recession. When people who do have jobs and
paychecks have lessened their pockets every week, there isn't the
(01:40):
money to fund the sort of programs that Paul Barbara
is talking about. It didn't just happen. It's not as
though there's been a change of government and all of
a sudden there have been resets and we've decided that
we don't care about people, and that we don't care
about social housing, and that we don't care about homelessness.
(02:05):
What we need, far more than compassion, is a production
of thriving economy so that people who can can look
after themselves and people who can't will benefit from assistance
provided by a government that's got plenty of money flowing
into its coffers through exports, through increased taxation, and from
(02:27):
caring donors who've got more than enough and are happy
to share.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I think when times are hard.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And you look for all the ways that you can
cut costs, it's every one for themselves, isn't it. Unfortunately,
and when you're in a privileged position, when you're doing
all right, it's very hard to think about the people
(03:00):
who aren't doing so well, isn't it. We'll just come
back to.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Them later, Right News talk ze been anyway, Brooks Stanley,
she's an advocate for it's you. I think you would
like to not.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Be an advocate for them, because I think you would
like them not to be homeless.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
What's your reaction to this.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I think that the announcement made yesterday by the minister
is going to increase and make homelessness worse, and we
can't look at this announcement and isolation of the other
announcements they've made. Instead of investing billions into prisons, they
should be investing this money into presentative solutions like warm,
(03:50):
affordable and universal housing and looking for cope oper multi
solutions because we know that those are the solutions that
are working on the ground.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Brook Are you worried that this particular approach will affect
younger tenants.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
We're worried that it will impact everybody who is in
a KO house. We're worried about the pipeline from youth
homelessness because we know that that then as an indicator
of homelessness itself. We're worried that there are no alternatives
(04:25):
to emergency housing that the government is putting forward. And
we're worried about the lack of strategy for addressing homelessness.
There was a homelessness plan from twenty twenty until twenty
twenty three, and at the moment there is nothing in
place to carry on that mahi or ensure that we
(04:48):
work towards preventing and ending homelessness in ulti at all.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Can I just give a piece of advice to people
who come on these soors your B to B interview
about this sort of thing, who.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Maybe from that the more left leaning.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Side of life, please referring from using words like mahi.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Just out of the blue like that.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I'm not saying that you shouldn't use those words in
every day life, but when you're talking to a certain audience,
they you're not going to win their sympathy. Like I
know what you're talking about, but there are for many
people who're are looking for some reason not to like you,
(05:35):
and you're just not doing yourself any favors.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And I hate to say it, but it's the reality.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You's talk So Andrew Dickens, he's sort of been moving
around on different shows. Sometimes he's on early editions, sometimes
he's on Drive.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
And then talk back on the topic. Today we heard
from an emergency housing specialist telling a story about a
family that costs the state six hundred thousand dollars over
two years to be housed in a motel for two years.
That is eight hundred dollars a week for a motel room.
Somebody said yes to that. Again, that's on the government
(06:16):
because the buck stops there. But it's also on the
public servants and also on the motel owner who was
profiteering off the taxpayer. And toho, that person. You knew
you were ripping off the state. Surely remember you're a
taxpayer too. You're ripping yourself off, You're ripping off your mates,
you're ripping off me. It's the same when you hear
the building a statehouse costs so much more than a
(06:36):
private bill. Someone else is clipping the ticket because it's
the government. But you're clipping the ticket off my money
that I've given to actually fund other stuff. We are
all asking the government for fiscal prudence, but all that
comes to nothing if we the taxpayers, view the taxpayers
through the government as a cash cow. Meanwhile, Judith Collins
(06:58):
I lectured the public service the other day and said,
do not treat taxpayer money like it's your own money.
And stop wasting money and leave the accum at the door.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I thought we were wanting them to treat the text
bayer money like it's their own money, because you know
it's always you won't you wouldn't balance your budget at
home like your balance your public money budget, you know.
I thought that was I'm so confused that what's supposed
to be happening? Right? So Metton Tyler had an employment
(07:31):
law expen on their show A yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It seems like comple lines are tough.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
If you keep being gold, times are tough, and that's
probably good business for employment lawyers.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
I'm thinking, Gareth, we've already got texts coming through, so
we'll kick into them pretty quickly.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Yeah sounds good.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
Hey, a question for you. My work was all remote
then I joined my current firm. When I joined my
current firm, they now want us back in the office
two of five days every weekend to make up those
office days even when we take leave. I would like
to request a change to my working arrangements to the
price status quo as per Employment Relations Act two thousand,
(08:14):
Parts six AA flexible working, and don't think they can
point to any exemption as per six nine AAF The
guy knows legislation and they sanctioned me for asking for
this variation, eg. Refuse bonus payments, etc. Thanks boy.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
There's so much in that one, isn't there? I guess
summarizing it, A lot of businesses went fully remote during COVID,
and now they've seen that that comes with a whole
lot of downsides, and there's a lot of pressure for
people to return to the office. You don't have to
(08:53):
be a genius to work out that. If everybody is
working from home, it's so much more difficult to train
junior staff. Mental people include people on meetings and discussions,
and often say you learn a lot through osmos listening
what the person next to you is sang on the phone.
So there's a lot of pressure for people to go
(09:14):
back to the office. Very difficult to answer this coolest
questions because it is so fact dependent.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Wow, so you're supposed to listen in on your colleagues's
phone conversations to learn how to do your job.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Who knew?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's one of the weird reasons I've heard going back
to work.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
There you go news talk.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Has it been right? Marcus? Is each more or against impressions?
I don't know what this is about.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
It's funny enough fun because last night's show, right, I
don't normally gave Againlize a show too much, but last
night's show it was hard to get going, which is fine.
It's the contrast that makes talkback so compelling to do.
But one guy rang up and he said. One guy
(10:10):
rang up and he said, can I do an impersonation?
I've been doing this gig since nineteen eighty eight, no
one's ever tried to do an impersonation?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
FYI.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
It was terrible, And for a small window of my
prep today, which is me in the Tussock Country, I thought,
should we do a show on impersonations? And it took
(10:46):
just a fraction of a second for me to realize
that would be the worst idea, because I don't know
if you know anything about uzenmas that do impressions. They
do four people, they do Frank Spencer, they do Sam Hunt,
(11:07):
they do him Shard Bolt as someone else they impersonate.
They're always terrible the other personers that they impersonate anyway.
So we're not doing that. So there you go, starting
with a negative. What we're not doing tonight is a
(11:28):
night of impersonations because that's the way they would be.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You want to keep it contemporary.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You don't want to do Transpencer and Sam has ninety
percent of the people out there don't even know who
those people are, So you want to do Christopher luxon
and there's rolling thunder and we're moving with bannacles up
onto them for I actually don't know what he.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Was talking about when you sit there, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
But that's the sort of thing you want to be
doing impressions of I would have.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Thought keep a parent. It's my advice.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And just because Marcus is the host of the show,
he doesn't get to say, what are you guys bring
up about.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
An ambush the tonight? All you're the parent impressions do do?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Do impressions of Marcus it it'd be mine start there
and go from there. I am green hat that has
been used towards you've been Send me some impressions of
me if you want. If we get enough of them,
you guys can host this and I won't have to
do anything.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
See us Talking Talking zid Bean.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
For more from News Talk said B listen live on
air or online and keep our shows with you wherever
you go. With our podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to a podcast from News Talk Said B
Follow this and our wide range of podcasts now on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Used Talk Said Talk.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Hello, my beautiful beanies, and welcome to the bean for Thursday,
first of years Today's news.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
I am Glen Hart. We are looking back at Wednesday
work from home. It's on the app. Isn't it nothing
we can do about that? Marcus and impressions?
Speaker 3 (00:43):
But first up, so the Salvation Army state of the
nation is sort of highlighted homelessness again. I mean, I
know we shouldn't say it like that. I know we
shouldn't sound that we're bored with these reports that keep
coming out and saying that there's a lot of people
who can't, Hey the rent can't you know?
Speaker 2 (01:04):
They're out on the streets.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
But is this problem being exacerbated by the fact that
the coalition government's cracking down on crying or rent arears
and kicking people out.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
But if you haven't got any money left over in
your pocket at the end of the week, you can't
do anything about it. And yes, of course more help
is needed for people who are struggling, but help cost
money and where does that help come from? When a
country's in recession. When people who do have jobs and
paychecks have lessened their pockets every week, there isn't the
(01:40):
money to fund the sort of programs that Paul Barbara
is talking about. It didn't just happen. It's not as
though there's been a change of government and all of
a sudden there have been resets and we've decided that
we don't care about people, and that we don't care
about social housing, and that we don't care about homelessness.
(02:05):
What we need, far more than compassion, is a production
of thriving economy so that people who can can look
after themselves and people who can't will benefit from assistance
provided by a government that's got plenty of money flowing
into its coffers through exports, through increased taxation, and from
(02:27):
caring donors who've got more than enough and are happy
to share.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
I think when times are hard.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
And you look for all the ways that you can
cut costs, it's every one for themselves, isn't it. Unfortunately,
and when you're in a privileged position, when you're doing
all right, it's very hard to think about the people
(03:00):
who aren't doing so well, isn't it. We'll just come
back to.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
Them later, Right News talk ze been anyway, Brooks Stanley,
she's an advocate for it's you. I think you would
like to not.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Be an advocate for them, because I think you would
like them not to be homeless.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
What's your reaction to this.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I think that the announcement made yesterday by the minister
is going to increase and make homelessness worse, and we
can't look at this announcement and isolation of the other
announcements they've made. Instead of investing billions into prisons, they
should be investing this money into presentative solutions like warm,
(03:50):
affordable and universal housing and looking for cope oper multi
solutions because we know that those are the solutions that
are working on the ground.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Brook Are you worried that this particular approach will affect
younger tenants.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
We're worried that it will impact everybody who is in
a KO house. We're worried about the pipeline from youth
homelessness because we know that that then as an indicator
of homelessness itself. We're worried that there are no alternatives
(04:25):
to emergency housing that the government is putting forward. And
we're worried about the lack of strategy for addressing homelessness.
There was a homelessness plan from twenty twenty until twenty
twenty three, and at the moment there is nothing in
place to carry on that mahi or ensure that we
(04:48):
work towards preventing and ending homelessness in ulti at all.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Can I just give a piece of advice to people
who come on these soors your B to B interview
about this sort of thing, who.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Maybe from that the more left leaning.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Side of life, please referring from using words like mahi.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Just out of the blue like that.
Speaker 3 (05:13):
I'm not saying that you shouldn't use those words in
every day life, but when you're talking to a certain audience,
they you're not going to win their sympathy. Like I
know what you're talking about, but there are for many
people who're are looking for some reason not to like you,
(05:35):
and you're just not doing yourself any favors.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And I hate to say it, but it's the reality.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
You's talk So Andrew Dickens, he's sort of been moving
around on different shows. Sometimes he's on early editions, sometimes
he's on Drive.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
And then talk back on the topic. Today we heard
from an emergency housing specialist telling a story about a
family that costs the state six hundred thousand dollars over
two years to be housed in a motel for two years.
That is eight hundred dollars a week for a motel room.
Somebody said yes to that. Again, that's on the government
(06:16):
because the buck stops there. But it's also on the
public servants and also on the motel owner who was
profiteering off the taxpayer. And toho, that person. You knew
you were ripping off the state. Surely remember you're a
taxpayer too. You're ripping yourself off, You're ripping off your mates,
you're ripping off me. It's the same when you hear
the building a statehouse costs so much more than a
(06:36):
private bill. Someone else is clipping the ticket because it's
the government. But you're clipping the ticket off my money
that I've given to actually fund other stuff. We are
all asking the government for fiscal prudence, but all that
comes to nothing if we the taxpayers, view the taxpayers
through the government as a cash cow. Meanwhile, Judith Collins
(06:58):
I lectured the public service the other day and said,
do not treat taxpayer money like it's your own money.
And stop wasting money and leave the accum at the door.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
I thought we were wanting them to treat the text
bayer money like it's their own money, because you know
it's always you won't you wouldn't balance your budget at
home like your balance your public money budget, you know.
I thought that was I'm so confused that what's supposed
to be happening? Right? So Metton Tyler had an employment
(07:31):
law expen on their show A yesterday afternoon.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
It seems like comple lines are tough.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
If you keep being gold, times are tough, and that's
probably good business for employment lawyers.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
I'm thinking, Gareth, we've already got texts coming through, so
we'll kick into them pretty quickly.
Speaker 7 (07:52):
Yeah sounds good.
Speaker 8 (07:53):
Hey, a question for you. My work was all remote
then I joined my current firm. When I joined my
current firm, they now want us back in the office
two of five days every weekend to make up those
office days even when we take leave. I would like
to request a change to my working arrangements to the
price status quo as per Employment Relations Act two thousand,
(08:14):
Parts six AA flexible working, and don't think they can
point to any exemption as per six nine AAF The
guy knows legislation and they sanctioned me for asking for
this variation, eg. Refuse bonus payments, etc. Thanks boy.
Speaker 7 (08:33):
There's so much in that one, isn't there? I guess
summarizing it, A lot of businesses went fully remote during COVID,
and now they've seen that that comes with a whole
lot of downsides, and there's a lot of pressure for
people to return to the office. You don't have to
(08:53):
be a genius to work out that. If everybody is
working from home, it's so much more difficult to train
junior staff. Mental people include people on meetings and discussions,
and often say you learn a lot through osmos listening
what the person next to you is sang on the phone.
So there's a lot of pressure for people to go
(09:14):
back to the office. Very difficult to answer this coolest
questions because it is so fact dependent.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Wow, so you're supposed to listen in on your colleagues's
phone conversations to learn how to do your job.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Who knew?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's one of the weird reasons I've heard going back
to work.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
There you go news talk.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Has it been right? Marcus? Is each more or against impressions?
I don't know what this is about.
Speaker 9 (09:47):
It's funny enough fun because last night's show, right, I
don't normally gave Againlize a show too much, but last
night's show it was hard to get going, which is fine.
It's the contrast that makes talkback so compelling to do.
But one guy rang up and he said. One guy
(10:10):
rang up and he said, can I do an impersonation?
I've been doing this gig since nineteen eighty eight, no
one's ever tried to do an impersonation?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
FYI.
Speaker 9 (10:23):
It was terrible, And for a small window of my
prep today, which is me in the Tussock Country, I thought,
should we do a show on impersonations? And it took
(10:46):
just a fraction of a second for me to realize
that would be the worst idea, because I don't know
if you know anything about uzenmas that do impressions. They
do four people, they do Frank Spencer, they do Sam Hunt,
(11:07):
they do him Shard Bolt as someone else they impersonate.
They're always terrible the other personers that they impersonate anyway.
So we're not doing that. So there you go, starting
with a negative. What we're not doing tonight is a
(11:28):
night of impersonations because that's the way they would be.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
You want to keep it contemporary.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
You don't want to do Transpencer and Sam has ninety
percent of the people out there don't even know who
those people are, So you want to do Christopher luxon
and there's rolling thunder and we're moving with bannacles up
onto them for I actually don't know what he.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Was talking about when you sit there, to be honest.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
But that's the sort of thing you want to be
doing impressions of I would have.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Thought keep a parent. It's my advice.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
And just because Marcus is the host of the show,
he doesn't get to say, what are you guys bring
up about.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
An ambush the tonight? All you're the parent impressions do do?
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Do impressions of Marcus it it'd be mine start there
and go from there. I am green hat that has
been used towards you've been Send me some impressions of
me if you want. If we get enough of them,
you guys can host this and I won't have to
do anything.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
See us Talking Talking zid Bean.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
For more from News Talk said B listen live on
air or online and keep our shows with you wherever
you go. With our podcast on iHeartRadio.
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