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October 7, 2024 20 mins
Tempers flare at senior care.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Somebody sent this to me, and I believe they wanted
it to be. I found old man Elliot because otherwise
I don't know why it would be sent to me.
Where's Tybee Island. It's in Georgia, Savannah, right, Okay, And
I don't know that it matters. Tidy Island doesn't have

(00:22):
really anything to do with it other than that's where
it happens.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You want the story, You just want to read the headline.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
What is it?

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Just read the headline, Diane Tybee man stabs nursing home
residents over Vienna sausages.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Stab the guy right in the chest.

Speaker 5 (00:48):
He died.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
Yeah, the And that's why I think it was said
to me.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
Now we hear a lot about maybe the relationships that
form and the intimacy at nursing homes. Is violence amongst
its residents a problem? Yes, well from this story, Yes,
this is on the violent side of it.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
I mean this one. I feel pretty confident in saying
yes no.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
But don't they always say listen again, I've never had
any I've never had anybody in a nursing home that
I know of, But why wouldn't there be fights?

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Was this just a misunderstanding.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Let me say The Tybee Island Police Department said officers
responded to a local nursing home in reference to a
stabbing over Vienna sausages. By the way, what a great
ad for Vienna sausage. During the course of the investigation,
officers learned that the incident began when one resident accused
the other of taking his can of Vienna sausages. As

(02:02):
the altercation escalated, one of the men brandished a knife.
Oh I thought it was fork. It wasn't brandished a
knife and allegedly stabbed the other one in the chest.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Elliott, Oh, come on.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
Are you laughing that it's over the Vina sausages.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
But by the way, the answer is, of course, this
goes on like people don't the same way. People still
want to hook up and have romance and intercourse or
just even touch. People still get mad if anything. I
feel like your trigger would be much shorter. You know

(02:41):
how frustrated I am already.

Speaker 3 (02:42):
But did this person have a knife on his person
because he was worried about.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Oh see, I took I took it that.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
It was like in the kitchen or where do they
eat the cafeteria?

Speaker 6 (02:57):
They got like a little kitchenette, oftentimes in their rooms.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
So I busted into the man's room in the drawer. Yeah,
but but I would assume fights happen all the time.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
And then what happens is it selled internally? Yeah? I
mean I don't, well, because I agreed to the terms
of service. Then who has an arbiter?

Speaker 1 (03:20):
What are they gonna They're not gonna call the police.
I mean maybe for the stabbing. But two old guys
or two old women get in a fight, man.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
Get a fight like you're trying to mediate it?

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Father in laws in a home?

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Are there ever any fights that was nice?

Speaker 6 (03:35):
No?

Speaker 4 (03:36):
No, No, I don't need that. I've said, not that
I've seen. I mean, I know you know, by the way,
don't take time of somebody's seat.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
But did you hear any stories or have you heard
any stories about physical Oh?

Speaker 1 (03:47):
I'd get those eight sixty six to Elliott eight six
six two three five five four six eight what tanglements, Kristen,
find me somebody who knows somebody who was in a
nursing home who got into it.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Hell, find me any nursing home employee.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
They'll tell you fights happen all the time, don't haven't Well,
I can't say, haven't we heard, But wouldn't it make sense,
especially like as you start to enter like memory care.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I bet those people fight all the time.

Speaker 6 (04:14):
I mean they have been known to get agitated.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well, you've start to forget what decorum is, right, Like
I didn't know I wasn't supposed to just like steal
your stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:22):
But that's different. That's somebody that's still a fight, who's
no longer him or herself.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Early stages, early stages.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
And I remember my grandparent's talking about nasty behavior, but
I never heard about a physical altercation.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Put them up. Remember I used to search out on
YouTube elderly fights.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
What, oh, don't forget you have to cremate hughes iPad.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, watch did I not give the number eight six
six too?

Speaker 1 (04:57):
Elliott eight six six two three five five four six
eight Nursing home fights I believe happened all the time.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Why wouldn't they? Why would I all of a sudden stop?

Speaker 1 (05:07):
If if romance is that big, Yeah, as we heard
that it is right. So let's say we're all Diane,
Kristen and I are in a home and Diane and
I are starting to we have a relationship. Newcomer to
the house. I mean, this may as well be Love Island.

(05:30):
Newcomer to the house, Kristen. She's rolled in with her
oh attitude and is starting to sit by me and
ask me if I want some Buckeyes. Oh, that's gonna
piss Diane off, and Diane's gonna give her a little push.

Speaker 3 (05:51):
How sad is that to see on YouTube? I felt
pretty distant from it, so it wasn't that bad.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
No, you know what I can I can go both
ways on that. It would be Yes, it is. It
is sad, but at the same time it also.

Speaker 4 (06:07):
Shows well I don't know if that's keeping me up
what I mean to the hospital, but it's just like, no, no,
but you care.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
It shows that you are you still you still have
all your bitch Yeah, like it still has all of
it's you.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
So you think of a staff member calls, they're going
to say, this is good for our residents.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
No, because you don't want to advertise it, but it's
good for the patient.

Speaker 6 (06:34):
Go off the rails.

Speaker 4 (06:35):
But it's good for your penny. You see a lot
of similarities to high school.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
Yes, don't sit in the chair, and I bet if
I bet if Scott's mom went and sat in that chair.
She would feel a hand pull in her hair and saying,
get out of my chair.

Speaker 4 (06:48):
No, she said, that's somebody who was sitting in her
chair and she pulled her hair. No, she didn't do that,
but it's like it was probably a newer person who
didn't realize that that that those if you.

Speaker 6 (07:00):
Was her seat and it's.

Speaker 4 (07:01):
Like they sit at the same table in the same
order every every meal, and it's like, okay.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
But that's my seat.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
In all fairness, your mom, your mom. But Scott's mom
isn't going to fight something.

Speaker 4 (07:15):
No, no, no, no, no, right, but she had to tell her,
bitch out, that's my chair. Oh and welcome.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
But by the way, if that woman would have said
funny like go back to high school.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
I don't see your name on.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
It was an asking there.

Speaker 6 (07:36):
There's still there's a hierarchy. They are. They are the ogs.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
You're new, the don't sit on you're a junior, you
don't sit on the senior stage.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
She was, but she was new at some point. You
know how you become a senior.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
You throw it down.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well, no, you watch others get wheeled out.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Process of elimination by the way. As we speak, Hoby
is at the grocery store and he just picked himself
up a six pack of the Enna sausage he ran out.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
He also Hoby may be single handedly keeping them in business.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
He also gets it, meaning it the story maybe with
chicken beef and pork added and chicken broth.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
With yet a little bit of powder taste.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
Hi Ellie in the morning, Hi Courtney, what is the
and Hoby don't answer, But what is the best way
to eat Vienna sausages.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
Right out of the can?

Speaker 7 (08:39):
Right?

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yes, but with your fingers.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
You don't need a plastic fork, fingers in and then
you have the beauty of that smell on your fingers
all day. I'm sorry, yes, ma'am, Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 7 (08:53):
Hi.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Hi, my name's Courtney. My story is is pretty bad.
But my uncle was in a memory care unit in Florida,
uh and we got a call in the middle of
the night that he had fallen and they were taking
him to the hospital. And then about an hour later
we received a phone call from the emergency room doctor
who was so disgusted and stated that he did not

(09:16):
in fact fall that he had appeared that he had
been beaten to yees.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Oh god, I'm sorry. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Did that end?

Speaker 6 (09:24):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Okay, Well I hate to hear that that.

Speaker 5 (09:27):
I hate to hear I know, I know, but yes,
they're pretty sure it was a unfortunately a staff member,
but he was in a memory care unit and he
was kind of like a walkie talkie happy, but did
have an Italian temper on him.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Right, Okay, but I don't I mean, number one, I
don't like to how the story ends. Number two, I
don't like that it was a staff member like I'm
talking about I'm talking about like with like another resident. Yes,
like that's abuse.

Speaker 6 (09:54):
Yeah, we've seen cases the years.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
But you did sign that term of service, so we'll
just send it to an arbitrator and you'll be fine. No,
that's horrible that that that actually is not what I'm
looking for. But I am sad to hear that story,
I know, but I had to call and share. No,
I'm glad that you shared. I'm glad that you shared.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Thank you, ma'am. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Off to a rough start.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
Well, you know what, they can only be funnier from
here on.

Speaker 8 (10:18):
That one.

Speaker 3 (10:19):
I can't believe we're now in a position where we're
just hoping it's a static.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Hi Elliet the morning, Yes.

Speaker 7 (10:30):
Sir, Yeah, this is Bundy from Palatan. Yes sir, all right,
I've got one for you about nursing home violence. Right
all right, years ago, my wife's worked. It's a really care.
They were having a Christmas party, so of course all
the families were there and one of the eldy jam

(10:52):
gets up walks across this little wherever they were at
and for the other patients, a woman in the in
front of everybody, just have the blue What happened?

Speaker 1 (11:04):
Like?

Speaker 6 (11:04):
What what was there? Beast?

Speaker 7 (11:07):
But I don't know if it's been all my grandmother somebody. Well, anyway,
it's another story. I don't know what they ever became
of it, but it's running things, you know they I
don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah, no, but and I mean listen, look on the
bright side. It's better than the last story. Yeah, the set.
But see what I mean, you're two for two.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
And maybe the people that are sharing online were typing
instead of listening moments ago. But we don't want the
staff violence. That was the problem with the first phone calls.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Yeah, the funny ones, the funny ones, not the staff involved.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Even if and somebody said that the one facility had
a history of abusing its residence. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
I care. That's we're not listening and not listening, get
your ass.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Beats not what we want.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
But I'm telling you this happens. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Guy just got up for no reason, walked across the
little lu How slow was that build?

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Wouldn't mock him?

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Well?

Speaker 1 (12:19):
And by the way, Kristen just did what I was thinking.
Watch Kristin throw a punch? You ready, go ahead?

Speaker 2 (12:27):
So slow?

Speaker 1 (12:28):
How would that even although I guess if my paper
my skin is paper thin.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
You're hitting someone who looks like you, not hitting a teenager.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Hi Elliott in the morning. Hello, Yeah, Hi, who's.

Speaker 9 (12:43):
This is this starting?

Speaker 3 (12:48):
I'm sorry the.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Line, Yes you are, You're on the line, Elliott speaking.

Speaker 9 (12:54):
I always try. I had both of my husband and
center deceased, and they spent I've spent many years in
a nursing home and they are very particular about their seats.
I've seen I've seen some violence between the patients before
the staff could get there. They will, and one lady

(13:14):
even got her room change because somebody sold her pull ups.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
And they are.

Speaker 9 (13:25):
I hear everything so and then the other thing. They
don't get too much money, so there isn't a lot
of money to deal. But you talk about food, they
will kill and they will accuse, and they will get
their rooms changed because of it, maybe even another floor.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Hey, so wait a minute, so if there's not so.

Speaker 9 (13:43):
The you know, these sights are understands. They don't see everything.
I saw everything, and I didn't want to intervene, but
there are times I wanted to. I myself wanted to
intervene between patients.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
If two patients are getting after did they tell the
staff not to jump in?

Speaker 9 (14:03):
Oh, not the staff, but me?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
They would Oh, oh, just as a as a bystander,
as a visitor.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Yes, Oh that's interesting.

Speaker 9 (14:10):
I was twenty every I was almost every day with
my son.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Wow, So you would see over here.

Speaker 9 (14:19):
He was in co Unfortunately they were both in COVID.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
I didn't see him much, but I'm sorry.

Speaker 9 (14:24):
And in one place I had to even be there.
He was almost hospice or they wanted him want a
feeding too. I actually had to be there and feed
him lunch and feed him dinner.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Right that I agreed to?

Speaker 8 (14:35):
Right?

Speaker 9 (14:35):
No, I are horrible.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
I appreciate the remember we were laughing at the pull ups.
All right, very good, very good, Thank you, ma'am, thank you.
Oh damn, I should have asked ahead laugh while you're young, the.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
With pass one y're old from Patty once on an
argument between two old ladies in their wheelchairs. One didn't
want the other one in her hallway. They argued for
a while, then one said, if you don't like it,
you can lump it. We still laugh about that today.
It's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. See

(15:13):
now we're back on track, Yes, now we're smiling again.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Is there is there like like like that woman said,
there's not a lot of money, but do they have
their own currency?

Speaker 2 (15:26):
You know, like think about like like prisons, right.

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Like stamps, well not even cigarettes, but like stamps are currency.
Watch the Menendez story. Dimes like dimes, not not big money,
just dimes for the payphone? Is currency? I mean, are
there is there currency? And nursing homes where again? Like
maybe she was right, like cash doesn't mean anything, there's

(15:49):
nothing to spend cash on, but if you get your
hands on an extra box of pull ups, like now
now we're trading, like I'm trading favors for pull ups?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
What does that make me laugh? I know why?

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Pers And what's your tip of diapers?

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Let me slide those a sauce.

Speaker 4 (16:13):
You routinely mess yourself, so you are far closer to
wearing one than anybody else in this room.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Started by saying, this is old man Elliott. That's how
this story started.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Although no one will steal my pull ups because they're
already dirty. Thank you, Hi Elliott.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
The morning, Elliot.

Speaker 8 (16:36):
Hey, how's it going.

Speaker 2 (16:37):
I'm doing great. Who's this?

Speaker 8 (16:40):
My name's Janine. I'm from Fredericksburg.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yes, Janine, ninety three year old.

Speaker 8 (16:45):
My ninety three year old mother in law, Italian mean
of a snake. She stole everything from everyone. Her neighbors
and all the other rooms had like the crime tape
across their doors. Do not enter go right in there anyway.
So the best one was we got there one day
and I go, you're not talking right now, and know

(17:07):
what's wrong with you? She goes, I got the wrong teeth.
She stole somebody's denture. It was disgusting. And as far
as currency, so if if they win bingo, they give
them like tickets and they can go, you know, like
you're in the arcade. You can go to the store
and buy a stuffed animal or something. They have a

(17:30):
little store where they can trade in their tickets. But
she just stole them from everybody some days that come
in the room, she'd have ten. I go, oh, you
want to let a bingo right.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
By the way? Can I say this? Thank you, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
When I'm old, don't put me in one where like
there you win like an arcade. I was just imagine
I want to stuffed animal for I'm ninety years old.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah, but you're not the age you are now.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
You may get ninety. I'm gonna want to stay animal.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
In my room, something to hold.

Speaker 10 (18:03):
I'd rather have your lumps give me something I can use. See,
I still like stuffed animals.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
So when's the last time you you you did anything
with the stuffed animals.

Speaker 3 (18:18):
I'm saying I enjoyed when we could buy those for
the kids. Look, I just bought my daughter Rico at
the Cincinnati Zoo. Is she ninety No, But I'm just
saying I still appreciate stuffed animals for your children. I
liked that I got to buy.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I hope Bob.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
And your mom aren't listening to find out that you're
getting them stuffed animals for Christmas?

Speaker 3 (18:39):
Aren't when you sign on to like the floral websites,
don't a lot of those bouquets come with little stuffed
animals sometimes.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
Because you're trying to get laid those good three I'm
sending these to my grandparents.

Speaker 11 (18:52):
Home's sweetheart, all right, Well, they just me, I do
not want to when I'm ninety, I don't want a
stuffed animal.

Speaker 3 (19:05):
I bet we'll see you featured in some sort of
very small, independent local newspaper and you're pictured there with
a big stack of depends and all your stuffed animals.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Telling somebody else one of us is gonna lump it.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
A feature on Elliott and the Elderly DJ times.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Hi Elliott in the morning, Yeah, Hi, who's this?

Speaker 12 (19:33):
Hey? This is Zach from Anapolis. Yeah, I was calling.
My grandmother was in a nursing home facility and she
had never a fight. But in like the like eating
hall where they would eat, and somebody would I walk
up to meet with their friends and cut wine in
front of her to it run into them with a
rational scooter. They got so bad that the actually like

(20:00):
unhooks the battery from it and so she called my
dad like, hey, my Rascal was broken, Like can you
come fix it? And when we came to visit, like
the front cast people pulled us aside before we got
back there. It was like, hey, you know, this is
what's going on. We'd really appreciate that you didn't say
you call the problems she like knocked the lady over.

Speaker 8 (20:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
And by the way, by the way, that makes thank you, sir,
that makes sense. You're cutting, you think just because you're old,
you don't care about cutting anymore. You probably you probably
hate it worse.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
You have more time to be pissed off about certain things, Yeah,
and less.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
Time to get over it. That makes total sense to me.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
Makes me happy that I know my future in a
home will just be me staying in my room. I'll
avoid all of this drama.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
But you won't avoid everybody, because I'm walking in to
steel those pull ups

Speaker 2 (20:56):
And teeth
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