January 31, 2025 • 20 mins
"When is the last time that you turned your phone over to a stranger to help you with something?"
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
When is the last time that you turned your phone
over to a stranger to help you with something?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Nineteen something.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's been a while. It's been a while, is your point?
All right? Very good, Very good, Diane.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I don't understand what you mean to help you with something.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I mean like the geek squad, the no, no, not
the geek squad, but just somebody, somebody, like if you
were struggling with something and the person that you were
trying to deal with was like here and you don't
know them.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
They're strangers. You don't know them.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
They were like, oh, here, I can help you, and
you handed the phone over to them, and your only
interaction was very, very brief, maybe thirty forty five seconds.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I mean, I can't remember ever doing that.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Good. No, that is a good thing. That is a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
But you answered that like like like there's something wrong
with you for not doing that.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Well no, I mean I'm like, would I have done
something at the Genius Bar or something like that, But that's.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, the like giving your car to a mechanic.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
Right, well, he said strangers though they are strangers, yes,
but they are. But that's why I said the geek squad.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
But you know, that they're helping you, like you went
to them.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You don't know the guy at the at the mechanics shop,
but you know that you went there for them to
fix your car.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Okay, so maybe I never have them.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, no, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
There happened stories where those helpers have downloaded your images.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Right, okay, yes, but that's that's nefarious. Well, actually, what
I'm going to get into is as well. Like, for example, I.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Just told you at Target a few weeks ago, the
guy was touching my phone because I didn't know how
to pull up a purchase history and get the receipt,
so I held it, but I said it was weird
because he was scrolling and tapping on my phone, and
then not really it was odd, But then he apologized
for not asking permission to touch my phone.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh well, okay, but that would be like me robbing
your house and then going, oh, I'm sorry, I should
have asked mission.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Do you mind if I rob your house?
Speaker 6 (02:01):
No, but I'm just saying it. Even though I still
held it within my grasp, it was strange. So to
fully give the phone over to a stranger I remember,
and maybe I had this sort of wrong, didn't we
in the early days of like Outlook and Exchange, didn't
the company have to do something to your phone for
(02:22):
you to be able to get email on the early smartphones?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Oh so like again like so it wouldn't have been
Howell doing it or.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Again, see it's not really strange. Yeah, so you're again
dealing with people that you that you know, that.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You work with. But they used to have to do
something to our phones.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
There was something quirky about getting access to the exchange.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Really I don't remember years ago, Like I think it's weird.
Like the garage that I park in with my season
tickets for the capitals, why I parking that goes with it? Yeah,
the they changed the system to get in, and it's
like it's a it's a scan.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's a QR code on the phone. You can print
it out, but why do that.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's right there on the phone, But the way that
it's set up, you can't. You have to hand it
to the person, the attendant, and then they scan it
for you.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Like it's it's really weird. It's just the system isn't great.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
People hate it the Like the next time I run
into Ted, I have to talk to them about it.
And he'll go, it's okay, you're losing your seats the
when but when you hand it to them. But even
the people that work there, who I feel like, I know,
like it's been the same attendance for years, very nice ladies.
And there's a couple of guys there too. The even
(03:40):
they don't like it, like you can tell, they're like, okay, so.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
They feel like they're encroaching on your space.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It's a very odd thing to do is just to
hand them your phone.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But again, you're handing it to them, they're scanning you
in they're handing it back in a way you go,
I recognize them, I know them, and they're handing it
right back. So they're not like manipulating anything on your
on your phone.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Here's why I ask.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So there was a this was the this story was
just isolated to one city. But they do go on
and say this happens everywhere, especially in cities like major cities, right,
so New York, Boston, DC, LA, Chicago, like major cities,
it happens more than smaller communities, which is fine, doesn't
(04:27):
mean that it doesn't happen in smaller like smaller cities
or towns. People losing tens and tens and tens of
thousands of dollars by handing their phones over to scammers
on the.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Streets under what premise says police say scammers stole and
goes on and talks about that by people who turn
their phones over to strangers and are warning people not
to fall for the same ruse.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Police office are handing out flyers where scammers typically start
by asking you for donations for activities like sports teams,
school activities, nonprofits. So they'll be outside, you know, like
set up on a street somewhere and there go hey,
you know, hi, ma'am, we're raising money for this animal rescue.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Would you be able to help us?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Or you know, hey we're raising money our son's team
is going to Florida, or you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
They request the donation to be sent, whether it's through like.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Venmo, cash, app zell, whatever it is, and then they'll
tell you that they didn't receive. Like they'll go, oh, okay,
you know what, I can give you five dollars, so
let me venmo you and whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And the person will go, well it didn't come through.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They'll go, well I sent it, and they'll go, oh,
let me see and people go oh okay, and they
hand their phone over and next thing you know, they're
jamming up the thousands of.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Like five thousand dollars coming out of your Venmo.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Who they have to doing that.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
So it's not that the cause is fake, well the
cause actually yeah, it made a fake yes, of course,
they were just saying that the people are donating it
to random oh, like a homeless person, charities that aren't real. No, no,
then actually, and again these charities don't sound real. But
then they are physically giving their phone to the first Yeah,
and they're transferring I guess more money than well the
(06:26):
personal was originally thought to be given.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, no, I mean it could be.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It could be a made up charity or I could
I could stand on a street corner and go, hey, listen,
I'm raising money for the Leukemian Lymphomas Society, not picking
on them, great organization, but and you would.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Got well known to where you're like, oh okay, right,
and you.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Would go, oh that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah you know what, I'll give you ten dollars, And
so they'll be like, oh great, I do Venmo, I
do Zell, I'll do cash app whatever, and they'll send
it and then the recipient for the leukemia guy will go, oh,
it didn't come through, and they'll go, well I sent it.
They'll go oh, let me see and the person goes, oh, well,
here you go. And it's not ten dollars. They'll do
(07:07):
ten thousand dollars, they'll do five thousand dollars, they'll do
one thousand dollars, they'll do whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They'll do whatever they want. They have your phone, and
then they'll hand it back, going.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I couldn't get it either, and then hand it
back to you and then just walk away. And again
I get the scam. I don't get who's giving their
phone up for that.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Very trust trusting people, Yeah, you're giving your phone up
for that. I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which
you could see yourself letting your guard down enough, and
one that I was personally involved with definitely comes to mind.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Listen, I've been scammed out of money. I've been scammed
out of cash. I went to an ATM and got
scammed out of cash, and technically that's Dave Hennessy's fault.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
But I did think you've both had guttens to your
heavy No.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
But I was trying to help a professor get back
to his university in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Anyway, which one were you?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Last summer, my daughter and her friend sold lemonade, and
they not only took cash, but definitely accepted payment via
cash app. I didn't set it up. The other child's
mother did, but I could see maybe if, of course
they remember I did the whole thing where we donated,
(08:24):
and the second she got home, we immediately sent money
to Saint June, so it was above board. But if
you were just listen, you can actually have a stand.
We're talking about fake charities, fate causes. You can actually
have lemonade. But if you just are young kids who
look like you're just trying to make it a little
dollar or two, and then you're claiming that that you're
(08:46):
not getting the money, and you ask the next door neighbor,
whoever's driving by or walking with their dog, he let
me see your phone. I could see in that sense.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I would know. Ever, hand my phone to a kid.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Okay, these aren't like, you know, five year olds, No,
but they're you.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
You think I'm gonna hand my phone do it like
a tween? No way.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
A lot of adults have stuff on their phones explained
to them by children.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yes, that I understand, but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm not handing some uh some kid. I barely know my.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Phone and kids have much more experience with those payment apps.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That is true. That is true.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I have experience with them. Like I'm convinced my friend's
brother whose house burned down in the fires out in LA,
I don't know if she got my contribution because I
never got to thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Oh you know what scam. It's a scam. By the way,
I bet they.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I bet they moved out of California before they they
just set their house burned down.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
I told you guys that. And I'm telling this story
now because I don't want my wife to hear it,
because she was already upset that I gave money. But
remember I I asked how we could help. Yeah, I
was sent a Vemo address, right, and so I sent
money and I never heard a thing. And now it's
been two weeks, maybe even more. And I don't want
to ask now because I sound I kind of sound like,
(10:12):
can I eddy?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Can I?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Can I jump in if somebody, if my house burned
down and somebody donated to me, I can promise you.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I'm not sending you a thank you?
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Oh what do you don't ever see thank you?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Could it have been I have.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Bigger issues than to say thank you to you.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Could it have been just the large number of it?
And she hasn't gotten around to it yet.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I know she had time for a girl's trip in
New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Oh man, well I gotta stay somewhere. I'm as well
stay in a hotel.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
And you gave me money for it.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Not so worried about the house.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
But I need to turn this round upside down from
the hurricane.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
So who needs to hand over a phone to get
scammed when you can just send the money yourself to
the fake car? God? Did her brother's house even burned down?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
No, I'm telling you they don't even live in La anymore.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
They moved.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
They moved years a girls. I got cash from Tyler
and for showing my titties.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
So we can never reference that story in an hour
that my wife is awaken.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Zippy the lips, Oh God, line two, Hi, Elliot the morning. Yeah, Hi,
who's asked?
Speaker 9 (11:25):
Hey, it's just spinn How are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Hey, I'm doing great. What can I do for you? Sir?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Uh so?
Speaker 9 (11:30):
I have a couple of stories. They got one story
about hand phone over. It was my junior year at college.
We were having a house party and it was like
the first house party of the year. So all the
freshmans start showing up to the house and none of
them have cash and gout like curl five to get
in the door for you know, solo cup and stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Right, So these kids start.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
Playing phones and handing their phone to us, and we
start demoing ourselves, like fifty bucks and handing my solo.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Comes said, hey, come on, welcome to college.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
By the way, like Jackie, like Jackie could.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
See like all of the financial stuff that the boys
are doing, Yeah, they will die. It'll be death from
a thousand venmos, Like everything is two dollars here, about
fifty here. The at least the boys are smart and
they don't put what it's on there for because Jackie
will go, what did you venmo a dollar eighty five?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
It'll be like, I don't know. I was like, you
know what that is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's like two zin's out of a ten, like you
know exactly what that is. Or they're gambling or whatever
it is. But they'll go like, oh, you know, vending
machine like it's horrible, but that's pretty good to get
into a party, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Two of the kids come in, all right, very good,
very good, Thank you sir.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Do you know what I'd be Everyone would be upset. Yeah, no, no,
But on top of first, I'd be pissed.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I paid to get in. There's no beard downstairs.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But if I found out you robbed me for fifty bucks,
I would lose my mind.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
It's a risky game because of retribution.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yes, where are I going?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Line?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
At least the guy robbing you on the street. What
are the odds you're going to run into him? In
like an English class line?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Three? Hi Elliet in the morning.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Hey Ellie, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Hey, I'm doing great. Who's this? This is Matt, Yes, sir,
what can I do for you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I was in Bangkok for work some years back, and
I have my iPhone had the screen craft, and I
heard you could get it done cheap out there. So
I was in this little market where it's all full
of scammers. It's fake watches, fake purses, fake everything. And
there's this little guy there who said he could fix
my phone screen for like fifteen bucks, And so I
gave him my phone, and he kept asking me for
my password. He said he needed my password to do it,
(13:58):
and I refused, but still ended up giving him my
phone and he said come back in like forty five
minutes or an hour, And I came back and got
my phone back fine, and didn't get scammed out of
any money. But looking back, it was pretty dumb.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
As you were telling the story, in my head, I
was like, there is no way, Like I would be
so hesitant to turn my phone over to anybody here
in a foreign country where I can't speak the language.
I'd be like like, yeah, I definitely don't speak what
they speak in Bangkok, so I would be like, there's
no way. However, I could also see myself being like, well,
(14:35):
you know what I mean. Like you, you would almost
be like more maybe more trusting. I could almost talking
to myself in.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It almost cost as much to get a new phone
as it does to get the phone Screamer placed. I
thought it was a risk work taken, but I do
remember once I handed over to the guy and walked away,
I was like that that didn't feel right right.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I think it's the walking away part that that would
throw me off at the mall when they have the keys,
thank you sir.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Do they fix it in front of you or do
they have you leave it with them?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I don't know. I've never I've never gotten one done
at the kiosk?
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Where have you had screens fixed?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I have a friend that can fix screens? Wow? And
then I've done it like at at the like do you.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Fix it places right now? Straight to Apple?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And manufacturer only the but yeah, I've gone to I've gone.
I've gone to Apple. And then I do have a
buddy that fixes them, okay, which is a great side hustle.
There's a dude who might the the older one at
Tennessee when he was living in the dorms. There was
a kid who lived in the dorms who fixed phones.
That's a genius.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Side hu made hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
That is a genius side hustle.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
So wes better because you've also said that, you know,
if people have cut hair in dorms, what's the better
gig phones or hair?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Hair?
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Just because it's it's constant, it's.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Constant in its return customers, unless you're like, unless you
just got like oil hands, like how many times during
the year, am I breaking my phone?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Where am I going? Line one?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Hare?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Oh that I got Hi jellieah the morning.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
Good morning. This is Jen from Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Hi Jen. What can I do for you?
Speaker 8 (16:20):
Well, say thank palm Number one Tyler, We send our
daughter money via Venmo at college all the time, and
we actually have to notify her. We just send her
a text because she has their notifications to turn off,
so she won't even know the money's there unless we
let her know.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So maybe your.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Friend didn't say thank you yet, so then they have
their notifications off. And then number two, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Excuse me, wait, hold on, hold on, let me jump
in there. Let me jump in there for a second.
If I if I am actively seeking donations, wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
You have your You would think you would turn it on.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Because and again, not because I want to be able
to reach out and say thank you, but to sit
there and go like, oh thank god, I got more money.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, oh thank god? Now what you know what?
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Now I can afford another hurricane?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
No, well, I will say this. Your call is very comforting.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I also don't know what time your wife wakes up,
so I'm being a little careful here.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
One minute, one minute now. Actually she's been up. She
just doesn't listen until later, hold on until the kids
go to school. But the history of her VENMO, because
that was public, it looked like she hadn't used it
in quite some time, right, so that may play into
what she suggested. Now I do believe for the reason
(17:34):
because I did put one. I think I put family
fire recovery. I think that's what I put. So once
she sees it, she'll remember soliciting those funds. Just has
to sober up.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'm sorry, yes, ma'am. Back to you, back to you, okay, no.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
And then also I have a newer Samsung smartphone and
for my work to have my Outlook chemo on there,
I have to hand over my phone and they put
certain apps and definitely the authenticator. And you can't just
use biometrics or leave your password off. You have to
have a Ford died your password. So I had to
hand my phone over to work for Outlook to be
(18:15):
on my phone for them to do whatever they need
to do.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
First ooh, that's weird. That's very bizarre.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
But like for the longest time here and maybe this
is what you were talking about, Tyler, for the longest time, here.
If we wanted to download something on our computers, you
had to get company approval.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Oh, yes, that software.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, but that wouldn't know because that wouldn't apply to
our phones. Like if you wanted something for your phone,
phone's my property, not yours.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
It a bag of it.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
That's what Colin I remember, would always say about this
policy of having to go through the company to get
the exchange.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
When I got my new phone a couple of years ago,
and Howell was we see it. No, Howell was trying
to help me. I got so tired of like constantly
logging in my password. I just I just wrote it
down on a post it and I was like, here here,
I feel like I'm I feel like I'm encroaching on
your day. Why don't you here's my password?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Why would you do this?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Because I trust him?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And that's Matt also, But you know what Matt will do.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Like my Google calendar still does not pair with my
Apple calendar.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
We never figured it out.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
You know who it pairs with Matt's. Matt knows what's
going on.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Oh, time for a mamo or like a shirt he
bought pair as well as if you're getting lemonade from
my daughter. I know what she's buying. She asked me
last night if I knew the band def Leopard because
they have such cool shirts.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Does she have a fan? I'm not trying to play
that game of does she know any songs? But I'm
assuming she.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Knows def Leppard.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I said to her, because I just listened to let
It Go the other day.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
What a great song? No, it really is like everybody goes.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
To Doug Leaving gloating globe it, but let land It
rock land It. That was so good, Like that was awesome.
That was good smoking song. Oh, I should have said
that Lindsay's listening, she claims.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
She claimed that she recognized Pour Some Sugar on Me
in the club, but she also wears a guitar Hero
Pink Floyd's shirt all the time. Oh, she loves comfortably numb.
Great song, great song, I clocks. I always say to
her before and I will I say this to Lindsay
because I'm not there when they get dressed, if they
wear these band shirts, and she has quite a few.
(20:34):
Uh before she leaves, you have to give her the
names of a couple songs, because I know teachers love
to expose kids on fantom.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, no, exactly exactly. Let it go. That's just all
she gonna walk in and go. None of them matter,
but let it But that's not a Beats cut.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
That's an awesome It's not photographs, that's no.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
It's not. But it's an awesome cut, is what that is.
When is the last time that you turned your phone
over to a stranger to help you with something?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Nineteen something.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
It's been a while. It's been a while, is your point?
All right? Very good, Very good, Diane.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
I don't understand what you mean to help you with something.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
I mean like the geek squad, the no, no, not
the geek squad, but just somebody, somebody, like if you
were struggling with something and the person that you were
trying to deal with was like here and you don't
know them.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
They're strangers. You don't know them.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
They were like, oh, here, I can help you, and
you handed the phone over to them, and your only
interaction was very, very brief, maybe thirty forty five seconds.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I mean, I can't remember ever doing that.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Good. No, that is a good thing. That is a
good thing.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
But you answered that like like like there's something wrong
with you for not doing that.
Speaker 5 (00:56):
Well no, I mean I'm like, would I have done
something at the Genius Bar or something like that, But that's.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Well, the like giving your car to a mechanic.
Speaker 6 (01:05):
Right, well, he said strangers though they are strangers, yes,
but they are. But that's why I said the geek squad.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
But you know, that they're helping you, like you went
to them.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
You don't know the guy at the at the mechanics shop,
but you know that you went there for them to
fix your car.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
Okay, so maybe I never have them.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Yeah, no, that's good, that's good.
Speaker 6 (01:23):
There happened stories where those helpers have downloaded your images.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Right, okay, yes, but that's that's nefarious. Well, actually, what
I'm going to get into is as well. Like, for example, I.
Speaker 6 (01:33):
Just told you at Target a few weeks ago, the
guy was touching my phone because I didn't know how
to pull up a purchase history and get the receipt,
so I held it, but I said it was weird
because he was scrolling and tapping on my phone, and
then not really it was odd, But then he apologized
for not asking permission to touch my phone.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Oh well, okay, but that would be like me robbing
your house and then going, oh, I'm sorry, I should
have asked mission.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
Do you mind if I rob your house?
Speaker 6 (02:01):
No, but I'm just saying it. Even though I still
held it within my grasp, it was strange. So to
fully give the phone over to a stranger I remember,
and maybe I had this sort of wrong, didn't we
in the early days of like Outlook and Exchange, didn't
the company have to do something to your phone for
(02:22):
you to be able to get email on the early smartphones?
Speaker 5 (02:25):
Oh so like again like so it wouldn't have been
Howell doing it or.
Speaker 6 (02:33):
Again, see it's not really strange. Yeah, so you're again
dealing with people that you that you know, that.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You work with. But they used to have to do
something to our phones.
Speaker 6 (02:41):
There was something quirky about getting access to the exchange.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Really I don't remember years ago, Like I think it's weird.
Like the garage that I park in with my season
tickets for the capitals, why I parking that goes with it? Yeah,
the they changed the system to get in, and it's
like it's a it's a scan.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
It's a QR code on the phone. You can print
it out, but why do that.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
It's right there on the phone, But the way that
it's set up, you can't. You have to hand it
to the person, the attendant, and then they scan it
for you.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Like it's it's really weird. It's just the system isn't great.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
People hate it the Like the next time I run
into Ted, I have to talk to them about it.
And he'll go, it's okay, you're losing your seats the
when but when you hand it to them. But even
the people that work there, who I feel like, I know,
like it's been the same attendance for years, very nice ladies.
And there's a couple of guys there too. The even
(03:40):
they don't like it, like you can tell, they're like, okay, so.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
They feel like they're encroaching on your space.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
It's a very odd thing to do is just to
hand them your phone.
Speaker 1 (03:47):
But again, you're handing it to them, they're scanning you
in they're handing it back in a way you go,
I recognize them, I know them, and they're handing it
right back. So they're not like manipulating anything on your
on your phone.
Speaker 3 (04:00):
Here's why I ask.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
So there was a this was the this story was
just isolated to one city. But they do go on
and say this happens everywhere, especially in cities like major cities, right,
so New York, Boston, DC, LA, Chicago, like major cities,
it happens more than smaller communities, which is fine, doesn't
(04:27):
mean that it doesn't happen in smaller like smaller cities
or towns. People losing tens and tens and tens of
thousands of dollars by handing their phones over to scammers
on the.
Speaker 7 (04:42):
Streets under what premise says police say scammers stole and
goes on and talks about that by people who turn
their phones over to strangers and are warning people not
to fall for the same ruse.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Police office are handing out flyers where scammers typically start
by asking you for donations for activities like sports teams,
school activities, nonprofits. So they'll be outside, you know, like
set up on a street somewhere and there go hey,
you know, hi, ma'am, we're raising money for this animal rescue.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Would you be able to help us?
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Or you know, hey we're raising money our son's team
is going to Florida, or you know, whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
They request the donation to be sent, whether it's through like.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Venmo, cash, app zell, whatever it is, and then they'll
tell you that they didn't receive. Like they'll go, oh, okay,
you know what, I can give you five dollars, so
let me venmo you and whatever.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
And the person will go, well it didn't come through.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They'll go, well I sent it, and they'll go, oh,
let me see and people go oh okay, and they
hand their phone over and next thing you know, they're
jamming up the thousands of.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Like five thousand dollars coming out of your Venmo.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Who they have to doing that.
Speaker 6 (06:04):
So it's not that the cause is fake, well the
cause actually yeah, it made a fake yes, of course,
they were just saying that the people are donating it
to random oh, like a homeless person, charities that aren't real. No, no,
then actually, and again these charities don't sound real. But
then they are physically giving their phone to the first Yeah,
and they're transferring I guess more money than well the
(06:26):
personal was originally thought to be given.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah, no, I mean it could be.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
It could be a made up charity or I could
I could stand on a street corner and go, hey, listen,
I'm raising money for the Leukemian Lymphomas Society, not picking
on them, great organization, but and you would.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Got well known to where you're like, oh okay, right,
and you.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Would go, oh that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Yeah you know what, I'll give you ten dollars, And
so they'll be like, oh great, I do Venmo, I
do Zell, I'll do cash app whatever, and they'll send
it and then the recipient for the leukemia guy will go, oh,
it didn't come through, and they'll go, well I sent it.
They'll go oh, let me see and the person goes, oh, well,
here you go. And it's not ten dollars. They'll do
(07:07):
ten thousand dollars, they'll do five thousand dollars, they'll do
one thousand dollars, they'll do whatever.
Speaker 3 (07:12):
They'll do whatever they want. They have your phone, and
then they'll hand it back, going.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Yeah, I couldn't get it either, and then hand it
back to you and then just walk away. And again
I get the scam. I don't get who's giving their
phone up for that.
Speaker 6 (07:27):
Very trust trusting people, Yeah, you're giving your phone up
for that. I'm trying to imagine a scenario in which
you could see yourself letting your guard down enough, and
one that I was personally involved with definitely comes to mind.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Listen, I've been scammed out of money. I've been scammed
out of cash. I went to an ATM and got
scammed out of cash, and technically that's Dave Hennessy's fault.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
But I did think you've both had guttens to your
heavy No.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
But I was trying to help a professor get back
to his university in Chicago.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Anyway, which one were you?
Speaker 6 (08:03):
Last summer, my daughter and her friend sold lemonade, and
they not only took cash, but definitely accepted payment via
cash app. I didn't set it up. The other child's
mother did, but I could see maybe if, of course
they remember I did the whole thing where we donated,
(08:24):
and the second she got home, we immediately sent money
to Saint June, so it was above board. But if
you were just listen, you can actually have a stand.
We're talking about fake charities, fate causes. You can actually
have lemonade. But if you just are young kids who
look like you're just trying to make it a little
dollar or two, and then you're claiming that that you're
(08:46):
not getting the money, and you ask the next door neighbor,
whoever's driving by or walking with their dog, he let
me see your phone. I could see in that sense.
Speaker 3 (08:59):
I would know. Ever, hand my phone to a kid.
Speaker 6 (09:01):
Okay, these aren't like, you know, five year olds, No,
but they're you.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
You think I'm gonna hand my phone do it like
a tween? No way.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
A lot of adults have stuff on their phones explained
to them by children.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Yes, that I understand, but I'm not.
Speaker 3 (09:17):
I'm not handing some uh some kid. I barely know my.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Phone and kids have much more experience with those payment apps.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
That is true. That is true.
Speaker 6 (09:24):
I have experience with them. Like I'm convinced my friend's
brother whose house burned down in the fires out in LA,
I don't know if she got my contribution because I
never got to thank you.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Oh you know what scam. It's a scam. By the way,
I bet they.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
I bet they moved out of California before they they
just set their house burned down.
Speaker 6 (09:48):
I told you guys that. And I'm telling this story
now because I don't want my wife to hear it,
because she was already upset that I gave money. But
remember I I asked how we could help. Yeah, I
was sent a Vemo address, right, and so I sent
money and I never heard a thing. And now it's
been two weeks, maybe even more. And I don't want
to ask now because I sound I kind of sound like,
(10:12):
can I eddy?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Can I?
Speaker 7 (10:14):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Can I jump in if somebody, if my house burned
down and somebody donated to me, I can promise you.
Speaker 3 (10:21):
I'm not sending you a thank you?
Speaker 6 (10:24):
Oh what do you don't ever see thank you?
Speaker 4 (10:26):
Could it have been I have.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Bigger issues than to say thank you to you.
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Could it have been just the large number of it?
And she hasn't gotten around to it yet.
Speaker 6 (10:37):
I know she had time for a girl's trip in
New Orleans.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Oh man, well I gotta stay somewhere. I'm as well
stay in a hotel.
Speaker 6 (10:42):
And you gave me money for it.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Not so worried about the house.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
But I need to turn this round upside down from
the hurricane.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
So who needs to hand over a phone to get
scammed when you can just send the money yourself to
the fake car? God? Did her brother's house even burned down?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
No, I'm telling you they don't even live in La anymore.
Speaker 8 (11:04):
They moved.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
They moved years a girls. I got cash from Tyler
and for showing my titties.
Speaker 6 (11:11):
So we can never reference that story in an hour
that my wife is awaken.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
Zippy the lips, Oh God, line two, Hi, Elliot the morning. Yeah, Hi,
who's asked?
Speaker 9 (11:25):
Hey, it's just spinn How are you guys doing?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Hey, I'm doing great. What can I do for you? Sir?
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Uh so?
Speaker 9 (11:30):
I have a couple of stories. They got one story
about hand phone over. It was my junior year at college.
We were having a house party and it was like
the first house party of the year. So all the
freshmans start showing up to the house and none of
them have cash and gout like curl five to get
in the door for you know, solo cup and stuff.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Right, So these kids start.
Speaker 9 (11:49):
Playing phones and handing their phone to us, and we
start demoing ourselves, like fifty bucks and handing my solo.
Speaker 6 (11:55):
Comes said, hey, come on, welcome to college.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
By the way, like Jackie, like Jackie could.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
See like all of the financial stuff that the boys
are doing, Yeah, they will die. It'll be death from
a thousand venmos, Like everything is two dollars here, about
fifty here. The at least the boys are smart and
they don't put what it's on there for because Jackie
will go, what did you venmo a dollar eighty five?
Speaker 3 (12:26):
It'll be like, I don't know. I was like, you
know what that is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
It's like two zin's out of a ten, like you
know exactly what that is. Or they're gambling or whatever
it is. But they'll go like, oh, you know, vending
machine like it's horrible, but that's pretty good to get
into a party, that's pretty good.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Two of the kids come in, all right, very good,
very good, Thank you sir.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
Do you know what I'd be Everyone would be upset. Yeah, no, no,
But on top of first, I'd be pissed.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
I paid to get in. There's no beard downstairs.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
But if I found out you robbed me for fifty bucks,
I would lose my mind.
Speaker 6 (13:13):
It's a risky game because of retribution.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Yes, where are I going?
Speaker 5 (13:21):
Line?
Speaker 1 (13:21):
At least the guy robbing you on the street. What
are the odds you're going to run into him? In
like an English class line?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Three? Hi Elliet in the morning.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Hey Ellie, how's it going?
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Hey, I'm doing great. Who's this? This is Matt, Yes, sir,
what can I do for you? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (13:37):
I was in Bangkok for work some years back, and
I have my iPhone had the screen craft, and I
heard you could get it done cheap out there. So
I was in this little market where it's all full
of scammers. It's fake watches, fake purses, fake everything. And
there's this little guy there who said he could fix
my phone screen for like fifteen bucks, And so I
gave him my phone, and he kept asking me for
my password. He said he needed my password to do it,
(13:58):
and I refused, but still ended up giving him my
phone and he said come back in like forty five
minutes or an hour, And I came back and got
my phone back fine, and didn't get scammed out of
any money. But looking back, it was pretty dumb.
Speaker 3 (14:10):
You know what.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
As you were telling the story, in my head, I
was like, there is no way, Like I would be
so hesitant to turn my phone over to anybody here
in a foreign country where I can't speak the language.
I'd be like like, yeah, I definitely don't speak what
they speak in Bangkok, so I would be like, there's
no way. However, I could also see myself being like, well,
(14:35):
you know what I mean. Like you, you would almost
be like more maybe more trusting. I could almost talking
to myself in.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It almost cost as much to get a new phone
as it does to get the phone Screamer placed. I
thought it was a risk work taken, but I do
remember once I handed over to the guy and walked away,
I was like that that didn't feel right right.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I think it's the walking away part that that would
throw me off at the mall when they have the keys,
thank you sir.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
Do they fix it in front of you or do
they have you leave it with them?
Speaker 3 (15:05):
I don't know. I've never I've never gotten one done
at the kiosk?
Speaker 6 (15:09):
Where have you had screens fixed?
Speaker 3 (15:11):
I have a friend that can fix screens? Wow? And
then I've done it like at at the like do you.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Fix it places right now? Straight to Apple?
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
And manufacturer only the but yeah, I've gone to I've gone.
I've gone to Apple. And then I do have a
buddy that fixes them, okay, which is a great side hustle.
There's a dude who might the the older one at
Tennessee when he was living in the dorms. There was
a kid who lived in the dorms who fixed phones.
That's a genius.
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Side hu made hundreds of dollars.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
That is a genius side hustle.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
So wes better because you've also said that, you know,
if people have cut hair in dorms, what's the better
gig phones or hair?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Hair?
Speaker 6 (15:57):
Just because it's it's constant, it's.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Constant in its return customers, unless you're like, unless you
just got like oil hands, like how many times during
the year, am I breaking my phone?
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Where am I going? Line one?
Speaker 1 (16:11):
Hare?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
Oh that I got Hi jellieah the morning.
Speaker 8 (16:14):
Good morning. This is Jen from Baltimore.
Speaker 3 (16:17):
Hi Jen. What can I do for you?
Speaker 8 (16:20):
Well, say thank palm Number one Tyler, We send our
daughter money via Venmo at college all the time, and
we actually have to notify her. We just send her
a text because she has their notifications to turn off,
so she won't even know the money's there unless we
let her know.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
So maybe your.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
Friend didn't say thank you yet, so then they have
their notifications off. And then number two, I haven't.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Excuse me, wait, hold on, hold on, let me jump
in there. Let me jump in there for a second.
If I if I am actively seeking donations, wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
You have your You would think you would turn it on.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Because and again, not because I want to be able
to reach out and say thank you, but to sit
there and go like, oh thank god, I got more money.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Yeah, oh thank god? Now what you know what?
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Now I can afford another hurricane?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
No, well, I will say this. Your call is very comforting.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
I also don't know what time your wife wakes up,
so I'm being a little careful here.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
One minute, one minute now. Actually she's been up. She
just doesn't listen until later, hold on until the kids
go to school. But the history of her VENMO, because
that was public, it looked like she hadn't used it
in quite some time, right, so that may play into
what she suggested. Now I do believe for the reason
(17:34):
because I did put one. I think I put family
fire recovery. I think that's what I put. So once
she sees it, she'll remember soliciting those funds. Just has
to sober up.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I'm sorry, yes, ma'am. Back to you, back to you, okay, no.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
And then also I have a newer Samsung smartphone and
for my work to have my Outlook chemo on there,
I have to hand over my phone and they put
certain apps and definitely the authenticator. And you can't just
use biometrics or leave your password off. You have to
have a Ford died your password. So I had to
hand my phone over to work for Outlook to be
(18:15):
on my phone for them to do whatever they need
to do.
Speaker 3 (18:17):
First ooh, that's weird. That's very bizarre.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
But like for the longest time here and maybe this
is what you were talking about, Tyler, for the longest time, here.
If we wanted to download something on our computers, you
had to get company approval.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Oh, yes, that software.
Speaker 1 (18:34):
Yeah, but that wouldn't know because that wouldn't apply to
our phones. Like if you wanted something for your phone,
phone's my property, not yours.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
It a bag of it.
Speaker 6 (18:41):
That's what Colin I remember, would always say about this
policy of having to go through the company to get
the exchange.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
When I got my new phone a couple of years ago,
and Howell was we see it. No, Howell was trying
to help me. I got so tired of like constantly
logging in my password. I just I just wrote it
down on a post it and I was like, here here,
I feel like I'm I feel like I'm encroaching on
your day. Why don't you here's my password?
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Why would you do this?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Because I trust him?
Speaker 3 (19:14):
And that's Matt also, But you know what Matt will do.
Speaker 5 (19:16):
Like my Google calendar still does not pair with my
Apple calendar.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
We never figured it out.
Speaker 3 (19:21):
You know who it pairs with Matt's. Matt knows what's
going on.
Speaker 6 (19:24):
Oh, time for a mamo or like a shirt he
bought pair as well as if you're getting lemonade from
my daughter. I know what she's buying. She asked me
last night if I knew the band def Leopard because
they have such cool shirts.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
Does she have a fan? I'm not trying to play
that game of does she know any songs? But I'm
assuming she.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Knows def Leppard.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
I said to her, because I just listened to let
It Go the other day.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
What a great song? No, it really is like everybody goes.
Speaker 1 (19:56):
To Doug Leaving gloating globe it, but let land It
rock land It. That was so good, Like that was awesome.
That was good smoking song. Oh, I should have said
that Lindsay's listening, she claims.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
She claimed that she recognized Pour Some Sugar on Me
in the club, but she also wears a guitar Hero
Pink Floyd's shirt all the time. Oh, she loves comfortably numb.
Great song, great song, I clocks. I always say to
her before and I will I say this to Lindsay
because I'm not there when they get dressed, if they
wear these band shirts, and she has quite a few.
(20:34):
Uh before she leaves, you have to give her the
names of a couple songs, because I know teachers love
to expose kids on fantom.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
Yeah, no, exactly exactly. Let it go. That's just all
she gonna walk in and go. None of them matter,
but let it But that's not a Beats cut.
Speaker 4 (20:49):
That's an awesome It's not photographs, that's no.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
It's not. But it's an awesome cut, is what that is.
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