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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Would it be possible to find somebody who's had to
do this and sell their house and move out of shame.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I know, we can find people who know residents who
have done that.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Okay, you know what, so that that's fine, that's fine.
That's that's one degree of separation. I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So some of you I know people who have done
it moved out of shame. Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
For what.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
One I do feel like was definitely coming off of
the unilateral decision to install license plate readers in the neighborhood.
The wait, So the person who was all in favor
of that, the person that did it on their own, Oh,
that's right.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
That's right, and then got so much grief from the neighborhood,
they moved.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yes, are you serious? I don't think we know that
they knew that they moved.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I told you that.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I told you that.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
They probably would claim it was for other reasons, but
the timing is.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And what's the other one.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I was told that before I moved in, not to
my house, but to the neighborhood, a group of swingers
got out of control of the neighborhood. Yea, and multiple
people had to move. Yeah, because there were accusations that
rules weren't being followed, that kind of thing. Where is
it swinging still or is it cheating or that kind
(01:26):
So it just became a complete mess and people.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Had to leave. That's awesome the neighborhood. So there's okay,
there's moving, but it wasn't me. But I know of stories.
I'll take that. That's fine. That's one degree of separation.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
I was wondering, like, would somebody like act like an
idiot at like a neighborhood party and it got so bad,
like no, no, but they did that and then got
ridiculed for it to when they were just like, I
can't deal with it anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I am so ashamed of what I did. I got
to move.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Or they're just sick of getting ridiculed for it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's kind of the same thing. Yeah, you're ashamed of
what you did. I was reading about a dude who.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So a bunch of and this is going to sound
like compared to the swingers, but there was a guy
who lived in this neighborhood and a bunch of the
neighbors were complaining about porch pirates and he had stolen
sixteen pretty valuable packages from people on his street, and
he finally got caught and he ended up moving out
(02:30):
of shame and put his house up for sale because
he was stealing from over stealing packages. Yeah, you said,
I guess the neighboring valuable things.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, I mean yes, I mean yes.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I don't know that he knew what the boxes were
when he took them, but he took.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Package stealing from his neighbors, sixteen.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Packages from his neighbors, and he finally got busted and caught,
and then they were able to determine he had stolen.
I think it was sixteen packages from twelve neighbors. And like,
who lived kind of on his stree.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Doesn't you have to be like valuable stuff? He's still
stealing from his neighbors.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
He committed a crime.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
If you did karaoke, a crime, okay, but that's not
Is that even shame?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I think goes beyond shame. That's why he moved.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No, he the court doesn't order that you have to
move out of your neighborhood because you stole from your neighbor.
If anything, you get a restraining order. But he moved
out of shame. He was like I couldn't, he said,
I apologize to everybody. Nobody would accept it. No, no, everybody, sorry, no, no,
but everybody. Everybody was down on him.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
He knew that.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Everybody, No, the everybody was angry and out of shame.
He moved, He sold his house and moved. I can
understand that one. That one's better than pirting. Yes, honest question.
You stole a dozen packages from around the neighborhood. If
you got caught, would you sell your house and move?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah? I thought it would be somebody.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Who was like, oh, they shamed the family, like they
did something like like really bad.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Okay, so you're now putting crimes into different buckets.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, that's law does that.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
But this is I'm just saying, compared to our examples
sexual twists, drinking too much maybe was Diane's, and drinking
too much and surveilling to an excess. This thing went
in front of a court. Yeah, he got busted for
stealing from his neighbors. That's pretty shameful. You're embarrassed, that
(04:44):
is for certain. Yes, I don't think i'm moving that.
Oh I'm not moving because my kid did it. You're moving?
People would definitely move if.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Ah, No, No, you very loudly let everybody know you
punish them. But you're not moving because your kids stole
packages from four people in the neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I bet you that a bunch of these calls that
we'll get here involved the children doing something that forced
the parents to move out.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
At a neighbor whose kid was stealing out of everybody's garage,
he didn't threaten to move.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
He ran for hoa president.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Because there's no shame. Some people have no shame, sure, Bob,
let's get specific. But for those that do feel guilty,
you could feel guilty, but you don't have to move.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, the court said he was guilty.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
No, he was.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He was found guilty stealing sixteen parcels from neighbors. Yeah,
and that's a lot too, Yeah, yes it is. He's like,
it's too much, I have to move. Sack it up
like it will die down.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
No, you're always that person. Just like every time people
drove past those license plate readers for the few days
they were up, we knew who did it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Shame by same. Oh, I need my shame bell. Where's
my phone? Hi? Elliott the morning?
Speaker 8 (06:16):
Hey Elliott, this is me.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, Hi, who's this.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (06:20):
I'd rather not say, but I'm calling in for merchant.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 8 (06:26):
So this is about eight years ago. But I freaked
out on my upstairs neighbor in the apartment complex we
lived in and told him that I hope his Johnson
falls off. And the next day my boyfriend husband now
went apartment shopping.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Because he was mortified.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Because you told him you hoped his penis falls off.
Speaker 9 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
Well, it was like a long time coming. We had been,
you know, complaining to the apartment complex and calling noise
complete and everything because the people upstairs would be banging
for hours on end at like starting at two am
(07:17):
until like five six am. Like it sounds like I'm exaggerating,
but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
No, I believe you, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You had one in one in one bad interaction and
your boyfriend was like, we out.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
I think it was just to the point where we were.
So it was months and months, right, okay, right, And
he literally had to because I ran upstairs like and
this was this would happen like during the week, which
would be you know, acceptable to be angry. But on
one weekend, after drinking a little bit, I finally woke
(07:53):
up the nerve and just was so peeed off that
I ran upstairs and banged on the door so much
and he literally had to pick me up and carry
me away.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, no, I get that. I get that. Like I'm
trying in my head like it doesn't seem like much.
But in my head, if I was like, oh my god,
there goes Jackie.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Oh my god, in the house, oh Christ.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I could see being ashamed enough where you would be like,
we got to get out of here, like I can't
be that family.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Like that would be bad, Thank you, ma'am, thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
That would be bad, I guess in my head because
we all are in homes. I wasn't thinking about apartments.
Yeah that's even easier.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, but I just I can't imagine, like, yes, I
understand like people have like noise problems and stuff with
apartments and they're walking too loud and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You're not moving for that. Now.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I do understand the oh god, get back in the house,
get back in the house. I could see that being
mortifying because then you're that guy and then it's like, hey,
can you control your wife? It's everything about.
Speaker 10 (09:02):
It, But would you move? Moving is so hard and
that's why I'm if I got caught still, forget my kids.
If I got caught stealing the packages. I don't think
I'm moving.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Oh you gotta.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Sell and then you got everything?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Uh why did you move? It's just it was too
much in the neighborhood embarrassment. I had stolen all those packages.
Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Hello, Hey Elliott, Hey, who's this?
Speaker 8 (09:41):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (09:41):
This is Heather calling from Richmond. This did not happen
to me, but happened to my babysitter, and I was
very entertained by this whole story. She was in her
twenties and you know, there was a group of mutual friends.
She was very fit, ran all the time on buttermilk trai.
This guy asked Robber on a date for the next day.
(10:02):
She was like, well, I'm running buttermilk. I think it's
like twelve miles And he said, oh, I've run too,
I'll come with you. She was like, you sure he's
t yeh because they starts running with her, and then
they starts to acting weird and she starts to smell
something and realizes he has pooped his hands. And of
course this run he moved away.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yep, I mean the poor kids.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
So there you go, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Awesome, thank you, you're moving over there.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Not only could I break the law, it could be
printed in the local paper. I'm moving faster after that.
No way than my law breaking committing of a crime
for that.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
If we're moving, every time we crap our pants.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Look at you.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Oh god, my my new name is no man.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I thought, honestly, I thought it was gonna be like
my my my.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Wife committed a like A like was like robbing banks.
Although even then I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Move because you haven't affected your neighbors with that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I mean, well that's true, but I mean I'm sure
there are crime like if Jackie Wilders, though, would be awful.
Oh there's Jackie. Remember she robbed the bank. You're moving
for a bank robbery? Yes, you are.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
If I'm if I robbed a bank and got busted.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You got busted, and now you're the bank robbery. Yes,
and you got you first time you've ever robbed a bank?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Oh it's my first time.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You were You were released, right, you didn't you? You
only you spent the weekend you were released. Now you're
you're just gonna go to court.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
I'm moving over a bank robbery.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Are you moving over a bank robbery?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yes, Elliott, but not before pooping.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Are you moving over a bank robbery?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You would?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Why am I the only one that wouldn't?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Often I feel like when people in Bezel from Hoa's
they have to move.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
No way, Elliott.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
No, you're literally stealing from from your neighbor. One bank
at least is downtown. They that money that you didn't
take it out of their pocket.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah you did.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
They've paid into that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
The money went to the ho Way.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
They were good, they were paying that money anyway.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
He used to pay the landscapers.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Okay, you landscaped your own lawn with it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
From Philip my buddy.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
My buddy stole his father's police car to impress a girl.
It attracted the attention of an off duty cop who
followed him, and my friend bailed into the woods. That
family moved shortly after.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I don't think I'm moving for that.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Is there nothing your child could do that you would
move for?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Oh no, I mean I mean yes, but not not that. Okay,
But you're not saying if it's kids, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Oh no, No, there are definitely things that the kids
could do that I would move for.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Like that I would be horribly embarrassed about.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Of course, we'll give an example. If it's not nothing,
nothing illegal, just give an example of something that's humiliating.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Oh, then nothing, it's only illegal. Yeah, no, Like I
I can't even think, like what they did?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
What they like they bawled up duty and threw it
at cars?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Like, oh no, that's not Yes, you're not getting arrested
for throwing.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Who's calling the cops on that?
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Somebody did?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I would do? You know how mad I would be through.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
A baseball sized ball of poo at my car.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You're gonna call it my kids did.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
If I saw Marley standing in the middle of the
off to the side of the road behind a tree
and all of a sudden she threw a duke ball
at my.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Car, I couldn't even imagine.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
I would.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I would, I would say something to you.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
I'd be like, hey, Diane, just so you know, f YI,
it's got to be a poop ball too, right.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
No, But I like I don't know, like, like, yeah,
it's illegal, but no, nobody's calling the cops on that.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
How about this one? This is from Donna.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I gotta be honest, even if my kid broke into
your house, I don't know that. I'm Oh, but that's
not humiliating. Well it is, but as a parent, nobody,
it's illegal. It's illegal and mortifying. I like that diagram
has humiliating acts and illegal acts separate.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
But I don't like.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
But I don't. I don't know what a human like.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I'm trying to think of a humiliating act that wouldn't
be illegal.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
What about? This one is from Donna.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
My dog bit my neighbor's daughter, and I considered moving
from shame.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Wait her dog bit? Oh, the neighbor's daughter. Yes, I
get it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It's got No, it's got like like attacked, yes, bit, No,
it's pretty bad. My neighbor's dog bit me. Now I
was friends with dog, but remember I ended up having
to get surgery. Thank you to Luca.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
The what about if your dog goes after another dog?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
No? Not moving? No, Joe wanted to Why would I?
Why would I for moving? He blamed his family. No,
but why would I? Why would I move up? Because
of that?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Because then every time you're outside.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Oh, you're the one with the dog that attacks.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And trust me, it's not just the neighbor who's dog
that was bit that knows the story.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Yes, everybody with as.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
So you're out in every single walk and people won't
go near you. And even if it was a one
time thing and maybe the dog was spooked by something else,
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Matter, like the like if the dog mauled a neighbors kid.
I'm not talking about something vicious.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, the dog's hat a fi. I am moving, you know,
I get you move.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I'm not moving for that, all right, or adjusting your
walk time.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
No, but the kids breaking into neighbor's houses is a
big thing that happens all exam That is not that
happens every neighborhood has had a neighborhood kid who's broken
into a neighbor's house.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I'm not saying it's extreme in that it is rare.
I'm saying of all the things I mean that is,
as a parent, you'd be mortified.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yes, yes, but I'm telling you that's more common than
I crap my pants on a running date.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
But the shame is a given with any sort of
criminal activity that involves your kids. No, like if they
got caught for light like the No, like vandalism. You're
not like the Elliott.
Speaker 11 (17:09):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I'm not saying, hey, could we have a block party,
But yeah, they tore down the neighborhood park. I'm not
proud of them, but I'm not moving.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Tore it down, but they ripped the slides down and
and I'm moving.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It's spray painted. I'm not moving for that. You're moving
because Marley Marley tagged the park.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You said ripped.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I'm thinking like metal shards everywhere and spray painted.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Yeah, I'm moving. No, I'm moving.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
No, you're I mean you you may you may post
on next door.
Speaker 11 (17:45):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Sorry, I'm so sorry, but that I'm not moving for
line too. I would be.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I would be more likely to move if Jackie did it,
then then the boys did it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Jackie keeps getting in it.
Speaker 12 (18:01):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Who's this?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (18:04):
This is Tom from Northern Virginia.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yes, sir, all right.
Speaker 12 (18:09):
So when I lived in Pennsylvania, there was a I
guess almost a twenty year old babysitter that was babysitting
for three different families.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Right.
Speaker 12 (18:17):
Apparently she was messing around with all three of the
dads and all three of them found out about it.
Instead of them getting mad at her, they got into
a fistfight at a block party. My wife found out,
and all the houses went up for still, including the
babysitters parents.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
House.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's a good one. Oh.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But by the way, that's that's a that's a that's
that's I mean, that's that is an unbelievable scenario, Diane,
let me ask you this block party, Scott starts drink
him and like and and he is drug and he
he he he fights, starts starts going after a guy
(18:59):
who lives three.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
How is down? Why though, Diane, no, because Scott's drunk.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Scott was like, man, the commanders are gonna win it
all next year.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And he was like, no, they ain't. And Scott was like, Dan,
hold my shoes.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Next thing, you know, Scott's got a shirt off and
he's beating this guy up.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Are you moving?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Probably her original example was a gathering in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You don't move over that.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Scott walks down there two weeks later, gives him a
hug and he's like, you know, we're still gonna win,
and then walks it on back.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Dude, I had too much. I know, you know, it
would be fun. My commander's muscles came out.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Every time you walk out of your house seeing all
the neighbors scurry back into that or like Lynch great living.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Where am I going mine two. Hi Elliott the morning. Hey, Hey,
I'm doing great. What did I do for you?
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Back a while ago when I was When I was
back in the late eighties early nineties, we had a
kid in our neighborhood who had a paper route and
he started breaking into the houses of his paper route.
Got caught about twenty twenty five houses. Not only did
he move away, but his parents had to pay restitution
to every single house that he stole from.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh that sucks. That sucks. But the parents moved, Yeah,
they moved.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
Works you want one of the houses that got broken into?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
How much did you get?
Speaker 11 (20:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I was gonna say, what did they What did they
get from you?
Speaker 11 (20:41):
He stole a portable CD player, which back then they
were kind of new, so it was kind of expensive,
so it's probably about I don't know, three four hundred dollars.
There was another house where there was another house that
had a big, gigantic TV. He couldn't steal it, so
he poured soda down it so it wouldn't work anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Oh my god, Now, let me ask you this. When
he stole your stuff and then they moved, Like the
sign went up in the yard. Were you like good?
Get out of our neighborhood. Or were you like, seriously,
you're moving because of this?
Speaker 11 (21:13):
No, it's like get the hell out.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Wow, wow, you know what? A thank you?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Maybe on to maybe on to what's the word I'm
looking for. Maybe I'm too liberal.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
As a neighbor from Instagram, my son and his friend
broke into a house and burned it to the ground.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Oh my god, I am moving.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
You can be finish laughing.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You can foreclothes. I am out. You can't set your
neighbor's house on fire.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
They moved six days later.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yes, you are out. Well we found it. It's a fire.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Okay, you set their house on fire. Yeah, wow, that
I would. There's no apologizing for that. It's a little
different than a but I so sorry about that. I
know you have literally nothing, and I'm sorry about your pet,
(22:10):
but he knows he's in trouble, like you don't. You
don't get around that. And you know the neighbors are
all sympathizing with the house burn Ah. Yeah, that's a
pretty safe assumption. There's no there's no meal meal train
coming to my house.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That one's bad. Hi, Elliott the morning, Hey, how you
doing so.
Speaker 9 (22:32):
My neighbor broke into my house still my PlayStation, and
you know, got caught.
Speaker 13 (22:37):
Cops came and everything.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
They didn't arrest them, and then the folks they weren't
going to move out of the neighborhood, but then their
dryer caught on fire and the.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
City kicked them out. That's another good one. That's karma.
That's karma. Let me go to line too, Hi Elliott
the morning does mean?
Speaker 13 (23:02):
Yeah, Hi, Hey, calling in from Roanoke. I moved a
couple of years ago because my dog got loose and
was going after the neighbor's dog ended up in the
back of the neighbor's car, and the neighbor pulled a
gun on us. So we were like, no, we're not
even putting up with this.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Okay, So you don't move out of shame, You moved
out of safety. Yeah, no, I don't blame that's nuts.
If my neighbor's pulling guns on me, either either the
police are moving them out or I'm moving out. But
that wasn't like, you know, oh I felt bad because
the dog attacked. No, the guy had a gun at
your face.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (23:41):
We were in Blacksburg too, so we were right off
of campus. And he's a nut for even pulling a
gun that close to campus.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Unreal, unreal, Thank you sir, thank you, my friend. Yes
to run Blue Sky. Hubbs got arrested for something really
bad in a very public way. He is in jail now,
but we are still in the same house. So now
no shame stories are coming in. Yeah, no, no, no,
But you know what that you could get around like
I don't I don't know what he did.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Let like.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Manslaughter, like he killed someone, I don't know what he did.
You you could at least chalk that up and go
what me.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
The family gets the sympathy for what the one member did.
What happened to the son who burned the house out?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
No sympathy? What if he goes to jail?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Can you stay in the house that No, you were out,
Well you said there was a pet, you threw an animal? Yeah,
that was.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Your pet.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
No, because there's no sympathy for you. There's no sympathy
for you.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
And for the no shame side of things. Britain got
twenty stitches in his face from a dog down the street.
The mother in that house carried me home bleeding, but
asked me not to say whose dog it was
Speaker 2 (25:01):
They didn't move
Would it be possible to find somebody who's had to
do this and sell their house and move out of shame.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I know, we can find people who know residents who
have done that.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Okay, you know what, so that that's fine, that's fine.
That's that's one degree of separation. I'll take that.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
So some of you I know people who have done
it moved out of shame. Yes.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
For what.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
One I do feel like was definitely coming off of
the unilateral decision to install license plate readers in the neighborhood.
The wait, So the person who was all in favor
of that, the person that did it on their own, Oh,
that's right.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
That's right, and then got so much grief from the neighborhood,
they moved.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Yes, are you serious? I don't think we know that
they knew that they moved.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
I told you that.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
I told you that.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
They probably would claim it was for other reasons, but
the timing is.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
And what's the other one.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
I was told that before I moved in, not to
my house, but to the neighborhood, a group of swingers
got out of control of the neighborhood. Yea, and multiple
people had to move. Yeah, because there were accusations that
rules weren't being followed, that kind of thing. Where is
it swinging still or is it cheating or that kind
(01:26):
So it just became a complete mess and people.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Had to leave. That's awesome the neighborhood. So there's okay,
there's moving, but it wasn't me. But I know of stories.
I'll take that. That's fine. That's one degree of separation.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
I was wondering, like, would somebody like act like an
idiot at like a neighborhood party and it got so bad,
like no, no, but they did that and then got
ridiculed for it to when they were just like, I
can't deal with it anymore.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I am so ashamed of what I did. I got
to move.
Speaker 6 (01:56):
Or they're just sick of getting ridiculed for it.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
It's kind of the same thing. Yeah, you're ashamed of
what you did. I was reading about a dude who.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So a bunch of and this is going to sound
like compared to the swingers, but there was a guy
who lived in this neighborhood and a bunch of the
neighbors were complaining about porch pirates and he had stolen
sixteen pretty valuable packages from people on his street, and
he finally got caught and he ended up moving out
(02:30):
of shame and put his house up for sale because
he was stealing from over stealing packages. Yeah, you said,
I guess the neighboring valuable things.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Well, I mean yes, I mean yes.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I don't know that he knew what the boxes were
when he took them, but he took.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
Package stealing from his neighbors, sixteen.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Packages from his neighbors, and he finally got busted and caught,
and then they were able to determine he had stolen.
I think it was sixteen packages from twelve neighbors. And like,
who lived kind of on his stree.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
Doesn't you have to be like valuable stuff? He's still
stealing from his neighbors.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
He committed a crime.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
If you did karaoke, a crime, okay, but that's not
Is that even shame?
Speaker 2 (03:17):
I think goes beyond shame. That's why he moved.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
No, he the court doesn't order that you have to
move out of your neighborhood because you stole from your neighbor.
If anything, you get a restraining order. But he moved
out of shame. He was like I couldn't, he said,
I apologize to everybody. Nobody would accept it. No, no, everybody, sorry, no, no,
but everybody. Everybody was down on him.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
He knew that.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
Everybody, No, the everybody was angry and out of shame.
He moved, He sold his house and moved. I can
understand that one. That one's better than pirting. Yes, honest question.
You stole a dozen packages from around the neighborhood. If
you got caught, would you sell your house and move?
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah? I thought it would be somebody.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Who was like, oh, they shamed the family, like they
did something like like really bad.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
Okay, so you're now putting crimes into different buckets.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Yeah, that's law does that.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
But this is I'm just saying, compared to our examples
sexual twists, drinking too much maybe was Diane's, and drinking
too much and surveilling to an excess. This thing went
in front of a court. Yeah, he got busted for
stealing from his neighbors. That's pretty shameful. You're embarrassed, that
(04:44):
is for certain. Yes, I don't think i'm moving that.
Oh I'm not moving because my kid did it. You're moving?
People would definitely move if.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Ah, No, No, you very loudly let everybody know you
punish them. But you're not moving because your kids stole
packages from four people in the neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
I bet you that a bunch of these calls that
we'll get here involved the children doing something that forced
the parents to move out.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
At a neighbor whose kid was stealing out of everybody's garage,
he didn't threaten to move.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
He ran for hoa president.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Because there's no shame. Some people have no shame, sure, Bob,
let's get specific. But for those that do feel guilty,
you could feel guilty, but you don't have to move.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Well, the court said he was guilty.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
No, he was.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
He was found guilty stealing sixteen parcels from neighbors. Yeah,
and that's a lot too, Yeah, yes it is. He's like,
it's too much, I have to move. Sack it up
like it will die down.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
No, you're always that person. Just like every time people
drove past those license plate readers for the few days
they were up, we knew who did it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Shame by same. Oh, I need my shame bell. Where's
my phone? Hi? Elliott the morning?
Speaker 8 (06:16):
Hey Elliott, this is me.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
Yeah, Hi, who's this.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Hey?
Speaker 8 (06:20):
I'd rather not say, but I'm calling in for merchant.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 8 (06:26):
So this is about eight years ago. But I freaked
out on my upstairs neighbor in the apartment complex we
lived in and told him that I hope his Johnson
falls off. And the next day my boyfriend husband now
went apartment shopping.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
Because he was mortified.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Because you told him you hoped his penis falls off.
Speaker 9 (06:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (06:56):
Well, it was like a long time coming. We had been,
you know, complaining to the apartment complex and calling noise
complete and everything because the people upstairs would be banging
for hours on end at like starting at two am
(07:17):
until like five six am. Like it sounds like I'm exaggerating,
but I'm not.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
No, I believe you, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
You had one in one in one bad interaction and
your boyfriend was like, we out.
Speaker 8 (07:30):
I think it was just to the point where we were.
So it was months and months, right, okay, right, And
he literally had to because I ran upstairs like and
this was this would happen like during the week, which
would be you know, acceptable to be angry. But on
one weekend, after drinking a little bit, I finally woke
(07:53):
up the nerve and just was so peeed off that
I ran upstairs and banged on the door so much
and he literally had to pick me up and carry
me away.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, no, I get that. I get that. Like I'm
trying in my head like it doesn't seem like much.
But in my head, if I was like, oh my god,
there goes Jackie.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
Oh my god, in the house, oh Christ.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
I could see being ashamed enough where you would be like,
we got to get out of here, like I can't
be that family.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Like that would be bad, Thank you, ma'am, thank you.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
That would be bad, I guess in my head because
we all are in homes. I wasn't thinking about apartments.
Yeah that's even easier.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Yeah, but I just I can't imagine, like, yes, I
understand like people have like noise problems and stuff with
apartments and they're walking too loud and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
You're not moving for that. Now.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I do understand the oh god, get back in the house,
get back in the house. I could see that being
mortifying because then you're that guy and then it's like, hey,
can you control your wife? It's everything about.
Speaker 10 (09:02):
It, But would you move? Moving is so hard and
that's why I'm if I got caught still, forget my kids.
If I got caught stealing the packages. I don't think
I'm moving.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Oh you gotta.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
Sell and then you got everything?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Uh why did you move? It's just it was too
much in the neighborhood embarrassment. I had stolen all those packages.
Hi Elliott the morning.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Hello, Hey Elliott, Hey, who's this?
Speaker 8 (09:41):
Hey?
Speaker 7 (09:41):
This is Heather calling from Richmond. This did not happen
to me, but happened to my babysitter, and I was
very entertained by this whole story. She was in her
twenties and you know, there was a group of mutual friends.
She was very fit, ran all the time on buttermilk trai.
This guy asked Robber on a date for the next day.
(10:02):
She was like, well, I'm running buttermilk. I think it's
like twelve miles And he said, oh, I've run too,
I'll come with you. She was like, you sure he's
t yeh because they starts running with her, and then
they starts to acting weird and she starts to smell
something and realizes he has pooped his hands. And of
course this run he moved away.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yep, I mean the poor kids.
Speaker 7 (10:33):
So there you go, have a great day.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Awesome, thank you, you're moving over there.
Speaker 4 (10:41):
Not only could I break the law, it could be
printed in the local paper. I'm moving faster after that.
No way than my law breaking committing of a crime
for that.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
If we're moving, every time we crap our pants.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Look at you.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Oh god, my my new name is no man.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
I thought, honestly, I thought it was gonna be like
my my my.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Wife committed a like A like was like robbing banks.
Although even then I wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Move because you haven't affected your neighbors with that.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
I mean, well that's true, but I mean I'm sure
there are crime like if Jackie Wilders, though, would be awful.
Oh there's Jackie. Remember she robbed the bank. You're moving
for a bank robbery? Yes, you are.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
If I'm if I robbed a bank and got busted.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
You got busted, and now you're the bank robbery. Yes,
and you got you first time you've ever robbed a bank?
Speaker 6 (11:50):
Oh it's my first time.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
You were You were released, right, you didn't you? You
only you spent the weekend you were released. Now you're
you're just gonna go to court.
Speaker 6 (11:58):
I'm moving over a bank robbery.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Are you moving over a bank robbery?
Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yes, Elliott, but not before pooping.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
Are you moving over a bank robbery?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
You would?
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Why am I the only one that wouldn't?
Speaker 4 (12:14):
Often I feel like when people in Bezel from Hoa's
they have to move.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
No way, Elliott.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
No, you're literally stealing from from your neighbor. One bank
at least is downtown. They that money that you didn't
take it out of their pocket.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
Yeah you did.
Speaker 6 (12:31):
They've paid into that.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
The money went to the ho Way.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
They were good, they were paying that money anyway.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
He used to pay the landscapers.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
Okay, you landscaped your own lawn with it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
From Philip my buddy.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
My buddy stole his father's police car to impress a girl.
It attracted the attention of an off duty cop who
followed him, and my friend bailed into the woods. That
family moved shortly after.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
I don't think I'm moving for that.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
Is there nothing your child could do that you would
move for?
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Oh no, I mean I mean yes, but not not that. Okay,
But you're not saying if it's kids, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
Oh no, No, there are definitely things that the kids
could do that I would move for.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Like that I would be horribly embarrassed about.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
Of course, we'll give an example. If it's not nothing,
nothing illegal, just give an example of something that's humiliating.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Oh, then nothing, it's only illegal. Yeah, no, Like I
I can't even think, like what they did?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
What they like they bawled up duty and threw it
at cars?
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Like, oh no, that's not Yes, you're not getting arrested
for throwing.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Who's calling the cops on that?
Speaker 6 (14:02):
Somebody did?
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I would do? You know how mad I would be through.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
A baseball sized ball of poo at my car.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
You're gonna call it my kids did.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
If I saw Marley standing in the middle of the
off to the side of the road behind a tree
and all of a sudden she threw a duke ball
at my.
Speaker 6 (14:19):
Car, I couldn't even imagine.
Speaker 8 (14:21):
I would.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
I would, I would say something to you.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
I'd be like, hey, Diane, just so you know, f YI,
it's got to be a poop ball too, right.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
No, But I like I don't know, like, like, yeah,
it's illegal, but no, nobody's calling the cops on that.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
How about this one? This is from Donna.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I gotta be honest, even if my kid broke into
your house, I don't know that. I'm Oh, but that's
not humiliating. Well it is, but as a parent, nobody,
it's illegal. It's illegal and mortifying. I like that diagram
has humiliating acts and illegal acts separate.
Speaker 6 (14:57):
But I don't like.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
But I don't. I don't know what a human like.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
I'm trying to think of a humiliating act that wouldn't
be illegal.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
What about? This one is from Donna.
Speaker 4 (15:03):
My dog bit my neighbor's daughter, and I considered moving
from shame.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Wait her dog bit? Oh, the neighbor's daughter. Yes, I
get it.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It's got No, it's got like like attacked, yes, bit, No,
it's pretty bad. My neighbor's dog bit me. Now I
was friends with dog, but remember I ended up having
to get surgery. Thank you to Luca.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
The what about if your dog goes after another dog?
Speaker 2 (15:38):
No? Not moving? No, Joe wanted to Why would I?
Why would I for moving? He blamed his family. No,
but why would I? Why would I move up? Because
of that?
Speaker 4 (15:50):
Because then every time you're outside.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Oh, you're the one with the dog that attacks.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
And trust me, it's not just the neighbor who's dog
that was bit that knows the story.
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Yes, everybody with as.
Speaker 4 (16:01):
So you're out in every single walk and people won't
go near you. And even if it was a one
time thing and maybe the dog was spooked by something else,
it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Matter, like the like if the dog mauled a neighbors kid.
I'm not talking about something vicious.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
Yeah, the dog's hat a fi. I am moving, you know,
I get you move.
Speaker 6 (16:23):
I'm not moving for that, all right, or adjusting your
walk time.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
No, but the kids breaking into neighbor's houses is a
big thing that happens all exam That is not that
happens every neighborhood has had a neighborhood kid who's broken
into a neighbor's house.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
I'm not saying it's extreme in that it is rare.
I'm saying of all the things I mean that is,
as a parent, you'd be mortified.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Yes, yes, but I'm telling you that's more common than
I crap my pants on a running date.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
But the shame is a given with any sort of
criminal activity that involves your kids. No, like if they
got caught for light like the No, like vandalism. You're
not like the Elliott.
Speaker 11 (17:09):
I'm not.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I'm not saying, hey, could we have a block party,
But yeah, they tore down the neighborhood park. I'm not
proud of them, but I'm not moving.
Speaker 6 (17:17):
Tore it down, but they ripped the slides down and
and I'm moving.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
It's spray painted. I'm not moving for that. You're moving
because Marley Marley tagged the park.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
You said ripped.
Speaker 5 (17:34):
I'm thinking like metal shards everywhere and spray painted.
Speaker 6 (17:38):
Yeah, I'm moving. No, I'm moving.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
No, you're I mean you you may you may post
on next door.
Speaker 11 (17:45):
Hey.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Sorry, I'm so sorry, but that I'm not moving for
line too. I would be.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
I would be more likely to move if Jackie did it,
then then the boys did it.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Jackie keeps getting in it.
Speaker 12 (18:01):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Who's this?
Speaker 1 (18:04):
Hey?
Speaker 11 (18:04):
This is Tom from Northern Virginia.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yes, sir, all right.
Speaker 12 (18:09):
So when I lived in Pennsylvania, there was a I
guess almost a twenty year old babysitter that was babysitting
for three different families.
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Right.
Speaker 12 (18:17):
Apparently she was messing around with all three of the
dads and all three of them found out about it.
Instead of them getting mad at her, they got into
a fistfight at a block party. My wife found out,
and all the houses went up for still, including the
babysitters parents.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
House.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That's a good one. Oh.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But by the way, that's that's a that's a that's
that's I mean, that's that is an unbelievable scenario, Diane,
let me ask you this block party, Scott starts drink
him and like and and he is drug and he
he he he fights, starts starts going after a guy
(18:59):
who lives three.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
How is down? Why though, Diane, no, because Scott's drunk.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
Scott was like, man, the commanders are gonna win it
all next year.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
And he was like, no, they ain't. And Scott was like, Dan,
hold my shoes.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Next thing, you know, Scott's got a shirt off and
he's beating this guy up.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Are you moving?
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Probably her original example was a gathering in the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
You don't move over that.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Scott walks down there two weeks later, gives him a
hug and he's like, you know, we're still gonna win,
and then walks it on back.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Dude, I had too much. I know, you know, it
would be fun. My commander's muscles came out.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
Every time you walk out of your house seeing all
the neighbors scurry back into that or like Lynch great living.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Where am I going mine two. Hi Elliott the morning. Hey, Hey,
I'm doing great. What did I do for you?
Speaker 11 (20:02):
Back a while ago when I was When I was
back in the late eighties early nineties, we had a
kid in our neighborhood who had a paper route and
he started breaking into the houses of his paper route.
Got caught about twenty twenty five houses. Not only did
he move away, but his parents had to pay restitution
to every single house that he stole from.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Oh that sucks. That sucks. But the parents moved, Yeah,
they moved.
Speaker 11 (20:30):
Works you want one of the houses that got broken into?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
How much did you get?
Speaker 11 (20:38):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (20:38):
I was gonna say, what did they What did they
get from you?
Speaker 11 (20:41):
He stole a portable CD player, which back then they
were kind of new, so it was kind of expensive,
so it's probably about I don't know, three four hundred dollars.
There was another house where there was another house that
had a big, gigantic TV. He couldn't steal it, so
he poured soda down it so it wouldn't work anymore.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
Oh my god, Now, let me ask you this. When
he stole your stuff and then they moved, Like the
sign went up in the yard. Were you like good?
Get out of our neighborhood. Or were you like, seriously,
you're moving because of this?
Speaker 11 (21:13):
No, it's like get the hell out.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Wow, wow, you know what? A thank you?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Maybe on to maybe on to what's the word I'm
looking for. Maybe I'm too liberal.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
As a neighbor from Instagram, my son and his friend
broke into a house and burned it to the ground.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Oh my god, I am moving.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
I'm not.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
You can be finish laughing.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
You can foreclothes. I am out. You can't set your
neighbor's house on fire.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
They moved six days later.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yes, you are out. Well we found it. It's a fire.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Okay, you set their house on fire. Yeah, wow, that
I would. There's no apologizing for that. It's a little
different than a but I so sorry about that. I
know you have literally nothing, and I'm sorry about your pet,
(22:10):
but he knows he's in trouble, like you don't. You
don't get around that. And you know the neighbors are
all sympathizing with the house burn Ah. Yeah, that's a
pretty safe assumption. There's no there's no meal meal train
coming to my house.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
That one's bad. Hi, Elliott the morning, Hey, how you
doing so.
Speaker 9 (22:32):
My neighbor broke into my house still my PlayStation, and
you know, got caught.
Speaker 13 (22:37):
Cops came and everything.
Speaker 9 (22:38):
They didn't arrest them, and then the folks they weren't
going to move out of the neighborhood, but then their
dryer caught on fire and the.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
City kicked them out. That's another good one. That's karma.
That's karma. Let me go to line too, Hi Elliott
the morning does mean?
Speaker 13 (23:02):
Yeah, Hi, Hey, calling in from Roanoke. I moved a
couple of years ago because my dog got loose and
was going after the neighbor's dog ended up in the
back of the neighbor's car, and the neighbor pulled a
gun on us. So we were like, no, we're not
even putting up with this.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Okay, So you don't move out of shame, You moved
out of safety. Yeah, no, I don't blame that's nuts.
If my neighbor's pulling guns on me, either either the
police are moving them out or I'm moving out. But
that wasn't like, you know, oh I felt bad because
the dog attacked. No, the guy had a gun at
your face.
Speaker 7 (23:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 13 (23:41):
We were in Blacksburg too, so we were right off
of campus. And he's a nut for even pulling a
gun that close to campus.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Unreal, unreal, Thank you sir, thank you, my friend. Yes
to run Blue Sky. Hubbs got arrested for something really
bad in a very public way. He is in jail now,
but we are still in the same house. So now
no shame stories are coming in. Yeah, no, no, no,
But you know what that you could get around like
I don't I don't know what he did.
Speaker 9 (24:09):
Let like.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Manslaughter, like he killed someone, I don't know what he did.
You you could at least chalk that up and go
what me.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
The family gets the sympathy for what the one member did.
What happened to the son who burned the house out?
Speaker 2 (24:27):
No sympathy? What if he goes to jail?
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Can you stay in the house that No, you were out,
Well you said there was a pet, you threw an animal? Yeah,
that was.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Your pet.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
No, because there's no sympathy for you. There's no sympathy
for you.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
And for the no shame side of things. Britain got
twenty stitches in his face from a dog down the street.
The mother in that house carried me home bleeding, but
asked me not to say whose dog it was
Speaker 2 (25:01):
They didn't move
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