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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I'm Tony Cruz. Jason nemis is a representative Majority Whip
of the Kentucky State House, and Jason appreciate your time.
They're in District thirty three, part of Jefferson, part of Oldham,
part of Shelby County. You got a funky district, bro, I.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Do you know it may be raining, but it's a
good day, Tony. It's dash Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Look, that's right. We date look at ourselves and we
try to become better in preparation for the easter. So
I'm happy today.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, great, We're always happy to have you too. Jason,
appreciate your time this morning. Let's just start at the top.
I want to know what to you, and I guess
the majority of the House. What's the most important things
you need to get done in this legislative session.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, the most important thing we have already gotten done,
and that is reduced the income tax. In twenty seventeen
it was six percent. It's going to We've just reduced
it to three point five percent. We're doing it at
a half a percent of the time. That's the most
important thing. And then there are several things that are
still in the hopper if you will. And you know
Louisville's delegation is leading the way. Senator Julie Rocky Adams
has a sex torsion bill today. FBI says it's the
(01:09):
fastest growing crime against children, and she's doing something about that.
Kentucky all right now, is silent on that. So she
has a sex torsion bill. John Hodgson is trying to
make sure that we don't over develop areas the infrastructure
is not ready, and so we're trying to incentivize a
lot of and pay for development where there is infrastructure,
(01:29):
like inside the Waterston and around the Waterston and the
major thoroughfares. So that's a very important thing we are
listening to here, Tony. We're gonna get rid of reformulated
gas RFG. Jared Bauman leading the way on that. We're
going to get rid of it. The Mayor and the
Governor are now on board in the vast epa to
get rid of it. Rand Paul is stepping up and
trying to do that. So you know that increases our
(01:49):
gas sixteen to thirty cents a gallon. And Jared Bama
is leading the way. We are going to get rid
of reformulated gas. We have a freshman legislator, Chris Lewis.
He's got a cigar bill, so you know, great cities
have a nice cigar bar, and Chris Lewis is doing that.
And then this first session he's done a lot. Just
yesterday Emily Callaway led the way and getting rid of
(02:11):
and passing a bill to address this big squatters problem
we have where people just come into a home they
don't own and they act like they own it and
it's hard to get him out, expensive to get them out.
And Emily Callaway has has passed the bill or through
the House that's in the Senate now to address that issue.
The two most important issues I think of next session,
because next sessions of budget session are housing and medicaid,
(02:32):
because we have a significantly need for housing, and Representative
Susan Whitten from right here in Louisville is leading away
on those issues because we have to have better housing
inventory at all levels, especially at the lower level, and
then the working man's level, so the nurse and the
mechanic can get some get some get some ownership. And
then Ken Fleming is leading medicaid, which is the other
biggest issue we're going to have next session Medicaid cross
(02:54):
are out of control, and Ken Fleming is at the
point of the spear and addressing the Medicaid issues to
try tore at how we can make sure that program
is there, that essential program is there for the least
among us, while making sure that we root out fraud
and and we're not paying for things that we ought
not be paying for. So those are a number of
things that we're getting done. One more thing, the Democrat
Beverly chester Burton today is going to pass a bill
(03:16):
off the House floor to address the huge problem in
Louisville and some problem somewhere else also other places also,
and that is this this street racing kind of stuff
where people just they drive at crazy speeds all over
the place, putting our citizens in jeopardy. So Beverly chester
Burton is is that's her bill, and we'll be passing
that today. So we're doing a lot in Frankfort. It is.
(03:36):
It is a short session. The big session the next session,
we're doing a lot. In the Louisville delegation. Republicans and
Democrats are are in the front getting it done.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
What do you say, I mean, everybody wants the federal
I mean not the federal U the income tax to
go away, but you know it's got to be replaced,
and you got to have income and it does what
do you what do you say to people that say, Okay,
if you have these sales taxes, are going to take
care of this, and some states get by with it.
(04:06):
But if you have a COVID situation, if the terror
start starts strangling, We've we've already got a lot of
people that don't go out as much because even prior
to President Trump and what's going on right now with
the economy. Uh, you know, we have high inflation, so
people aren't buying as much. That has that has to
have an impact on what you can do in the
state legislature.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It is our revenues are up substantially in the sales
tax area. We are not we've not increased you know,
it's six percent tennessee for example as nine percent. We
did not tax groceries or or medicines, and that is
not on the table. We will not do that. And
so what we're doing when we reduce the income tax,
we're doing it a half a percent at a time.
And it's a conservative approach to a conservative go It's
(04:45):
a complex formula, but effectively it's this, whatever revenues we have,
if we budget and we have two dollars that are
that that we're not spending, and it costs a dollar
to reduce for a half a percent, then we'll reduced
to half a percent. The real numbers, by the way,
it's about seven hundred million dollars for every half a
percent that you reduce. So when we have one point
four billion dollars that we have not budgeted, that's after
(05:07):
paying for all of our obligations, we've not budgeted one
point four billion dollars, then we'll reduce the income tax
seven about half a percent. That's seven hundred million dollars
out of the conference that would have been there. So
it's a conservative approach to a conservative goal because we're
really concerned making sure that we pay for the assensions
of government. There's been a state, Kansas, that went you
know to zero immediately and all hell broke loose there.
We learned from that lesson and it's a very slow approach.
(05:29):
So we're not going to get rid of the income
tax overnight, but we're going to you know, march down
towards zero, which will make Kentucky much more competitive. We're
poor state. We're not going to tax our way into prosperity.
We're going to grow our way into prosperity. And that's
what we've seen over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I'm going to if you don't mind them to continue on, Well,
let's I tell you what I got to break for
some traffic if you don't mind, and then we'll come
back with the Jason Namas here, thirty three district representative
and a House majority whip. Well we're back in just
a moment on news radio A forty wha. Yeah, yeah
with this uh the uh? I also want to it's
(06:05):
not a congressation representative. Jason Eve was here.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh yeah, Well see I put that in your head,
didn't you. You're okay, Well maybe one day.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I don't know nobody. I don't want to go to work.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh. I wouldn't want to be there either. You know,
there is something that comes that's coming down from Washington.
Like I, I like a lot of people. I think
we all agree and and you don't Conservatives, uh and
and liberals whatever the case may be. None of us
want to see the government of floating with the money
that should not be spent, et cetera, et cetera. But
(06:43):
I don't think I do not think that right now,
it's being done right by doge. Uh. I think it's
fine to look into it, but you don't cut the
heads off before you find out how things work and
then who's really doing the work and you know, with
solicitors and everything else. Although this bill sent a bill
two fifty seven came out on Monday morning where it
(07:04):
would also be looking into how we can save tax dollars,
but it's a different approach, and it's the right approach,
I think right. And I wish the federal government was
doing it this way. Why don't you talk about that
for us?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, I mean, look, the federal government is a behemoth.
It's got a lot of a lot of things that
are going on. I think Trump is trying to do
what he thinks his best and to reduce those spending
and I look, I'll support support that. I might do
it a little bit differently, but at the state level
we are doing a little differently. But we also we
have a different system in Kentucky. We don't spend money
that we don't have. We budget. You know, it's a
(07:35):
balanced budget or in a federal government, man, I wish
it where it's not. We have a balanced budget in Kentucky.
We have an auditor that does it pretty nice. It
is a very nice job of you know, as Alice
and Ball has been an auditor for the last eight
years and she's now treasured, but she's done a nice job.
It's a much more methodical approach that I think is good.
But you know, to have a doze kind of thing
(07:56):
in Kentucky is I think would be helpful because there
are expenditures that we ought to not be making. But
I do think they're much less at the state level.
You know, when Bevin was in there, he made it
a focus of his administration, and so you know, I'm
not we don't have the same problems that the federal
government has to that largely because we have to have
a balanced budget, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And other news legislation has been proposed that I think
would be fantastic. And I don't know why this hasn't
been a core curriculum even when I was a kid,
because I didn't know how to manage money. House Bill
three forty two requiring students entering the ninth grade in
twenty five twenty six to complete a one credit financial
literacy course during their eleventh or twelfth grade year. This
would be fantastic and kids can be intentivized by saying,
(08:40):
how would you like to be a millionaire by the
time you're a forty years old?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah? That's right. Yeah, I mean, what's the purpose of
our schools? The purpose of our schools is obviously there's
a lot, right It's to educate them and reading and writing.
It's also to uplift their spirits and teach you get
from music and art and those types of things to
make them a whole person, a kind person, a good citizen.
But part of it being a good citizen is understanding
how to how to handle your own finances. That's not
(09:04):
only good citizenship, you know, writ large for the community,
but it's also for that individual. We talked about housing earlier,
where Susan Whitnes is leading the way on that we
want to get people so that they can have wealth,
and they can accumulate wealth and have much more likely
to have happiness and safety and health and so forth. Well,
part of that is is understanding how to how to
use the dollars that you have and how to strive
for more, but protect what you have and make it
(09:25):
go as far as possible. So you know, these are
the types of things that we're trying to do in Frankfort.
We've we've been elected to go be responsible and you know,
we what we try to do. We have to sit
in the peuse next to the people who represent a
CM and Kroger and it's important to be responsive to them.
And these are the kinds of things that they want,
and that's it means, that's the kinds of things that
we're doing.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
We know that public education particularly is that you're talking
about cities. You know, municipalities have struggled, you know, with
I mean and obviously Louisville is different than Lexington as
a city and any other smaller cities around the common Wealth.
And it's the same way everywhere, and all of these
(10:03):
schools have troubles getting bus drivers. Chicago didn't even have
bus drivers anymore, those kind of things. Martin Polio, as
you know, is stepping down. Do you want to see
j cps split up or do you think what do
you want to see with the Jefferson County Public schools?
Because I know Marty, and I think he's really up
(10:26):
against it. I mean, he's really, as far as I'm concerned,
has really tried to do the best job that you
can with what we have here.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I think Marty Polio, he was the principal at Dalls
High School, which would have been my home school when
I grew up, and principal at Jaytown before then, did
a spectacular job. I was really excited when he came in.
The reason he's not been overly successful is because of
our board. It's not because of Polio. Our board. The
structure of our of j CPS is a disaster now.
The problems and how you fix them are much going
to take much longer a conversation than we have now.
(10:57):
But sure the status quo is the exact wrong end
to our board. Is that. I'm sorry to say it.
I'm just gonna call it straight. Our board is a
clown show. They don't take things seriously. Our kids are reading.
Less than one third of our kids are reading on
grade level. One in five of our African American kids
are reading on grade level. Five hundred and ninety two
deadly weapons were brought onto school property last year by
students and not one expulsion. They're not serious people. So
(11:18):
it's a structural issue. Now, how we affix that, Man,
it's gonna be hard, it's gonna be really difficult. I
do support right sizing JCPS. You know, Indianapolis has eleven
school districts. That's way too many, but one's probably too few.
There's ninety. We have ninety three thousand kids, one hundred
and sixty five schools, over two billion dollar budget. We
spend over twenty thousand dollars per kid in JCPS. It's
(11:39):
too big, it's too much of a behemoth for one
organization on board, but seven people or one superintendent to manage.
So I do think we should right size it. But
that might not be the right answer, but we certainly
happen me to have conversations. There's one wrong answer, and
the wrong answer is what we're doing. We're not serving
our kids.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Jason got a fly, but it's good talking to you.
Let's talk again soon.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Thanks Toning. How a going are you? Tube?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Representative Jason Namas joining US Majority Whip from the House,
Kentucky State House here on news RADIOA forty whas We're
coming back with sports and John Alden here on news
radio A forty whas
Good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
I'm Tony Cruz. Jason nemis is a representative Majority Whip
of the Kentucky State House, and Jason appreciate your time.
They're in District thirty three, part of Jefferson, part of Oldham,
part of Shelby County. You got a funky district, bro, I.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Do you know it may be raining, but it's a
good day, Tony. It's dash Wednesday.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Look, that's right. We date look at ourselves and we
try to become better in preparation for the easter. So
I'm happy today.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Well, great, We're always happy to have you too. Jason,
appreciate your time this morning. Let's just start at the top.
I want to know what to you, and I guess
the majority of the House. What's the most important things
you need to get done in this legislative session.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Well, the most important thing we have already gotten done,
and that is reduced the income tax. In twenty seventeen
it was six percent. It's going to We've just reduced
it to three point five percent. We're doing it at
a half a percent of the time. That's the most
important thing. And then there are several things that are
still in the hopper if you will. And you know
Louisville's delegation is leading the way. Senator Julie Rocky Adams
has a sex torsion bill today. FBI says it's the
(01:09):
fastest growing crime against children, and she's doing something about that.
Kentucky all right now, is silent on that. So she
has a sex torsion bill. John Hodgson is trying to
make sure that we don't over develop areas the infrastructure
is not ready, and so we're trying to incentivize a
lot of and pay for development where there is infrastructure,
(01:29):
like inside the Waterston and around the Waterston and the
major thoroughfares. So that's a very important thing we are
listening to here, Tony. We're gonna get rid of reformulated
gas RFG. Jared Bauman leading the way on that. We're
going to get rid of it. The Mayor and the
Governor are now on board in the vast epa to
get rid of it. Rand Paul is stepping up and
trying to do that. So you know that increases our
(01:49):
gas sixteen to thirty cents a gallon. And Jared Bama
is leading the way. We are going to get rid
of reformulated gas. We have a freshman legislator, Chris Lewis.
He's got a cigar bill, so you know, great cities
have a nice cigar bar, and Chris Lewis is doing that.
And then this first session he's done a lot. Just
yesterday Emily Callaway led the way and getting rid of
(02:11):
and passing a bill to address this big squatters problem
we have where people just come into a home they
don't own and they act like they own it and
it's hard to get him out, expensive to get them out.
And Emily Callaway has has passed the bill or through
the House that's in the Senate now to address that issue.
The two most important issues I think of next session,
because next sessions of budget session are housing and medicaid,
(02:32):
because we have a significantly need for housing, and Representative
Susan Whitten from right here in Louisville is leading away
on those issues because we have to have better housing
inventory at all levels, especially at the lower level, and
then the working man's level, so the nurse and the
mechanic can get some get some get some ownership. And
then Ken Fleming is leading medicaid, which is the other
biggest issue we're going to have next session Medicaid cross
(02:54):
are out of control, and Ken Fleming is at the
point of the spear and addressing the Medicaid issues to
try tore at how we can make sure that program
is there, that essential program is there for the least
among us, while making sure that we root out fraud
and and we're not paying for things that we ought
not be paying for. So those are a number of
things that we're getting done. One more thing, the Democrat
Beverly chester Burton today is going to pass a bill
(03:16):
off the House floor to address the huge problem in
Louisville and some problem somewhere else also other places also,
and that is this this street racing kind of stuff
where people just they drive at crazy speeds all over
the place, putting our citizens in jeopardy. So Beverly chester
Burton is is that's her bill, and we'll be passing
that today. So we're doing a lot in Frankfort. It is.
(03:36):
It is a short session. The big session the next session,
we're doing a lot. In the Louisville delegation. Republicans and
Democrats are are in the front getting it done.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
What do you say, I mean, everybody wants the federal
I mean not the federal U the income tax to
go away, but you know it's got to be replaced,
and you got to have income and it does what
do you what do you say to people that say, Okay,
if you have these sales taxes, are going to take
care of this, and some states get by with it.
(04:06):
But if you have a COVID situation, if the terror
start starts strangling, We've we've already got a lot of
people that don't go out as much because even prior
to President Trump and what's going on right now with
the economy. Uh, you know, we have high inflation, so
people aren't buying as much. That has that has to
have an impact on what you can do in the
state legislature.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It is our revenues are up substantially in the sales
tax area. We are not we've not increased you know,
it's six percent tennessee for example as nine percent. We
did not tax groceries or or medicines, and that is
not on the table. We will not do that. And
so what we're doing when we reduce the income tax,
we're doing it a half a percent at a time.
And it's a conservative approach to a conservative go It's
(04:45):
a complex formula, but effectively it's this, whatever revenues we have,
if we budget and we have two dollars that are
that that we're not spending, and it costs a dollar
to reduce for a half a percent, then we'll reduced
to half a percent. The real numbers, by the way,
it's about seven hundred million dollars for every half a
percent that you reduce. So when we have one point
four billion dollars that we have not budgeted, that's after
(05:07):
paying for all of our obligations, we've not budgeted one
point four billion dollars, then we'll reduce the income tax
seven about half a percent. That's seven hundred million dollars
out of the conference that would have been there. So
it's a conservative approach to a conservative goal because we're
really concerned making sure that we pay for the assensions
of government. There's been a state, Kansas, that went you
know to zero immediately and all hell broke loose there.
We learned from that lesson and it's a very slow approach.
(05:29):
So we're not going to get rid of the income
tax overnight, but we're going to you know, march down
towards zero, which will make Kentucky much more competitive. We're
poor state. We're not going to tax our way into prosperity.
We're going to grow our way into prosperity. And that's
what we've seen over the last few years.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I'm going to if you don't mind them to continue on, Well,
let's I tell you what I got to break for
some traffic if you don't mind, and then we'll come
back with the Jason Namas here, thirty three district representative
and a House majority whip. Well we're back in just
a moment on news radio A forty wha. Yeah, yeah
with this uh the uh? I also want to it's
(06:05):
not a congressation representative. Jason Eve was here.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Sorry.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Oh yeah, Well see I put that in your head,
didn't you. You're okay, Well maybe one day.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I don't know nobody. I don't want to go to work.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh. I wouldn't want to be there either. You know,
there is something that comes that's coming down from Washington.
Like I, I like a lot of people. I think
we all agree and and you don't Conservatives, uh and
and liberals whatever the case may be. None of us
want to see the government of floating with the money
that should not be spent, et cetera, et cetera. But
(06:43):
I don't think I do not think that right now,
it's being done right by doge. Uh. I think it's
fine to look into it, but you don't cut the
heads off before you find out how things work and
then who's really doing the work and you know, with
solicitors and everything else. Although this bill sent a bill
two fifty seven came out on Monday morning where it
(07:04):
would also be looking into how we can save tax dollars,
but it's a different approach, and it's the right approach,
I think right. And I wish the federal government was
doing it this way. Why don't you talk about that
for us?
Speaker 1 (07:15):
Yeah, I mean, look, the federal government is a behemoth.
It's got a lot of a lot of things that
are going on. I think Trump is trying to do
what he thinks his best and to reduce those spending
and I look, I'll support support that. I might do
it a little bit differently, but at the state level
we are doing a little differently. But we also we
have a different system in Kentucky. We don't spend money
that we don't have. We budget. You know, it's a
(07:35):
balanced budget or in a federal government, man, I wish
it where it's not. We have a balanced budget in Kentucky.
We have an auditor that does it pretty nice. It
is a very nice job of you know, as Alice
and Ball has been an auditor for the last eight
years and she's now treasured, but she's done a nice job.
It's a much more methodical approach that I think is good.
But you know, to have a doze kind of thing
(07:56):
in Kentucky is I think would be helpful because there
are expenditures that we ought to not be making. But
I do think they're much less at the state level.
You know, when Bevin was in there, he made it
a focus of his administration, and so you know, I'm
not we don't have the same problems that the federal
government has to that largely because we have to have
a balanced budget, all right.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
And other news legislation has been proposed that I think
would be fantastic. And I don't know why this hasn't
been a core curriculum even when I was a kid,
because I didn't know how to manage money. House Bill
three forty two requiring students entering the ninth grade in
twenty five twenty six to complete a one credit financial
literacy course during their eleventh or twelfth grade year. This
would be fantastic and kids can be intentivized by saying,
(08:40):
how would you like to be a millionaire by the
time you're a forty years old?
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Yeah? That's right. Yeah, I mean, what's the purpose of
our schools? The purpose of our schools is obviously there's
a lot, right It's to educate them and reading and writing.
It's also to uplift their spirits and teach you get
from music and art and those types of things to
make them a whole person, a kind person, a good citizen.
But part of it being a good citizen is understanding
how to how to handle your own finances. That's not
(09:04):
only good citizenship, you know, writ large for the community,
but it's also for that individual. We talked about housing earlier,
where Susan Whitnes is leading the way on that we
want to get people so that they can have wealth,
and they can accumulate wealth and have much more likely
to have happiness and safety and health and so forth. Well,
part of that is is understanding how to how to
use the dollars that you have and how to strive
for more, but protect what you have and make it
(09:25):
go as far as possible. So you know, these are
the types of things that we're trying to do in Frankfort.
We've we've been elected to go be responsible and you know,
we what we try to do. We have to sit
in the peuse next to the people who represent a
CM and Kroger and it's important to be responsive to them.
And these are the kinds of things that they want,
and that's it means, that's the kinds of things that
we're doing.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
We know that public education particularly is that you're talking
about cities. You know, municipalities have struggled, you know, with
I mean and obviously Louisville is different than Lexington as
a city and any other smaller cities around the common Wealth.
And it's the same way everywhere, and all of these
(10:03):
schools have troubles getting bus drivers. Chicago didn't even have
bus drivers anymore, those kind of things. Martin Polio, as
you know, is stepping down. Do you want to see
j cps split up or do you think what do
you want to see with the Jefferson County Public schools?
Because I know Marty, and I think he's really up
(10:26):
against it. I mean, he's really, as far as I'm concerned,
has really tried to do the best job that you
can with what we have here.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
I think Marty Polio, he was the principal at Dalls
High School, which would have been my home school when
I grew up, and principal at Jaytown before then, did
a spectacular job. I was really excited when he came in.
The reason he's not been overly successful is because of
our board. It's not because of Polio. Our board. The
structure of our of j CPS is a disaster now.
The problems and how you fix them are much going
to take much longer a conversation than we have now.
(10:57):
But sure the status quo is the exact wrong end
to our board. Is that. I'm sorry to say it.
I'm just gonna call it straight. Our board is a
clown show. They don't take things seriously. Our kids are reading.
Less than one third of our kids are reading on
grade level. One in five of our African American kids
are reading on grade level. Five hundred and ninety two
deadly weapons were brought onto school property last year by
students and not one expulsion. They're not serious people. So
(11:18):
it's a structural issue. Now, how we affix that, Man,
it's gonna be hard, it's gonna be really difficult. I
do support right sizing JCPS. You know, Indianapolis has eleven
school districts. That's way too many, but one's probably too few.
There's ninety. We have ninety three thousand kids, one hundred
and sixty five schools, over two billion dollar budget. We
spend over twenty thousand dollars per kid in JCPS. It's
(11:39):
too big, it's too much of a behemoth for one
organization on board, but seven people or one superintendent to manage.
So I do think we should right size it. But
that might not be the right answer, but we certainly
happen me to have conversations. There's one wrong answer, and
the wrong answer is what we're doing. We're not serving
our kids.
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Jason got a fly, but it's good talking to you.
Let's talk again soon.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Thanks Toning. How a going are you? Tube?
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Representative Jason Namas joining US Majority Whip from the House,
Kentucky State House here on news RADIOA forty whas We're
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