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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I am overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
There's so much, There is so much happening in Hollyweird.
I started recording, Oh, Hollyweird, Holly Weird, in Hollyweird, in here,
Holly Weirder.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Holly weirder, just when you thought it couldn't get any weirder,
and Hollyweird.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's insane, it's weird, insane.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I wish we were recording video right now too, but
I don't even know what episode were on. I think
thirty one, thirty like that. Just look, you don't need
to tell it. If we don't need to tell you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
We're in our thirties now, we're mature.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
What tool my tool?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Remind me later you it's my camera that's not working.
It's okay, that's so rude.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's very rude.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Okay, can I tell you the latest? Okay, we are
going to get into the Diddy trial.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Wait, but first let's preface with there is so much
to get into in the first place, so a lot,
there's an agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Okay, I this we weren't going to talk about this,
but this is news that just came out. I want
to talk really quick about Drake and the UMG lawsuit.
We're going to talk about Diddy and Cassie mainly, and
then we got to talk about Tory Lanez making these
Stallion and Kelsey, and then we have to talk about
Blake Lively, Taylor Swift and Justin Baldoni.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, buckle in because we've got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Get ready for this crazy ride.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, So we know that Drake is and this UMG
lawsuit has been going on for a while now, but
scholars are now warning Drake that this lawsuit could have
like major legal repercussions, And I was like, okay about
les interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So if a ruling in.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Favor of Drake happens, that can encourage more artists to
pursue legal action over lyrical content, which could lead into
an effect on creative expression and freedom, which would change
the entire music industry because then you they would be
afraid to go hard on dis track or whatever it
is that they're working on now. Favoring UMG in this lawsuit,
(01:59):
Marie and force the protection of art artistic freedom, but
could also prompt discussions about the ethical boundaries of lyrical content.
So I feel like if Drake wins this lawsuit, he
might be the most hated man in the music industry
because it could change the course of music moving forward,
which nobody wants to hit get hit with crazy allegations
like being a pedophile.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, but at the end of the day, you're in
a boxing ring and it's only you. I mean, the
legal system can't really help you, and you know, you
just got to put your dukes up and get ready
to take the blows as they come.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But that is also a fundamental distracts are also like
a hip hop like.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Rap battles like It's the streets were born on this
it was raised.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You agreed to go on this rap beef and he
came back.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I should have stayed a pop stars.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Should have just you know what is what does Kendrick say,
keep making me dance, waving my hands and nang on being.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
No three m.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I right.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So I just thought that was fascinating because he could
end up being the most hated person in the music industry.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And now you have to be.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Very careful with what you say or what you put
in a song.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Because it could be legally used against you.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah. Well, and I think they've been working towards that
in a lot of different cases. So I don't. I
think Drakes would be the nail in the coffin for
sure because of the whole little Jerk trial. They used
an young Doug and you know, there's been a lot
of trials recently where words and songs have been used
against these music artists. So I mean, Drake's gonna do
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his big one that is.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh my gosh, we'll see what happens with that, Okay,
Diddy and Cassie moving on, moving on this, Okay, So
it took a week to actually select the jury, so
the actual trial began.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Opening statements began on Monday.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
We are on day four of Cassie Ventura, Diddy's ex
taking the stand.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Chilling, honestly, and I think we can all agree on this.
We all wish this was televised.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, because no, I just I feel for Okay, so
like everything is out there right.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
What she's saying, what happened, But she also has like kids,
like those little girls.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And hearing this or like having the whole world see
I know, I just feel like there's a lot at risk,
especially for the victims that, yeah, are supposedly in these
videos too. So it's like, I don't know, it's a
very intimate.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I agree in that sense where it's like I understand
why even with the court being closed off to you know,
certain members of the press and everything like that. I
get why it's like that because of all the sensitive
nature of things, but just for the entertainment aspect and
us wanting to see, Like I'm getting my information late after,
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you know, everyone comes out of the courtroom and I'm
getting like debriefed on these news outlets, and I just
I just need to see it in real life. Like
to the Johnny Depp and Amber her.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Trial, it was yeah, but honestly, like I would not
be able to work.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, no, I wouldn't either.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Got to be glued to this thing because there is
just so much information coming out and it's like, oh
and heavy.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I know that cross examination was brutal.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh yeah, she actually had to take a break today.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
She was asked, she asked if she could like have
a moment, and so they took like a ten minute
recess like her and the jury. I did see that,
but yeah, so we know for those who don't know,
because like I'm trying to talk to baby my husband
about it, and he's like, I have no idea what's
going on, Like.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Really, I feel like I can't escape it right now.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Same, but we also work in media.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
True.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Now, Okay, So this trial is for sex trafficking and
racketeering and transportation to engage in prostitution. That's where it's
like the lines are blurred a little bit with Cassie's situation.
But I feel like she was brought in to kind
of lay the foundation on the basis of how did
he works? How he is the type of person right
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all that you know?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And the thing about Cassie's case is that they're really
highlighting all of the domestic abuse, and the defense is
trying to play that into the narrative that she was
you know, she was in a domestic relationship and basically
like she chose to stay when that's really not the case.
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You know, there's a bigger picture here, and I think
that's what the prosecution is building upon as we're going
through these motions.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
So, for those who don't know, so did he signed
Cassie to his record label when she was nineteen? So
she was part of bad Boy Records in early two
thousand and six, and then you know, how did he is?
I Mean, we see all these videos of like he
kind of just houses them, like he keeps them with them,
he shows them like the world and whatnot. Well, I
(06:54):
think their relationship started when she turned twenty one and
they went on a vague She talked about this on Stan.
They went on a Vegas trip to celebrate her birthday
and he kissed her and that's when it was.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's when that began. And she was with a Diddy
for ten years. So I feel like.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
She's also I think, what does she say their age
difference is it's a big It's a big difference. It's
a big difference. Yeah, so just that in itself, like
he's her boss. Hm, you're also a lot older than her. Yeah,
she's of age, but like she doesn't know she's impressionable.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
She's young. Yeah, and not only that, but like the
girl is, you know, just a girl. And she admitted
to this in court that you know, she didn't have
that people pleaser like mindset a little bit. So she's
just wanting to make her man happy. And so I
think that's what's also getting miscontrued in some aspects and
comment sections and everything. Everybody's like, you know, she chose
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to stay with him. No, I mean there's levels to it,
and you have to understand that, you peel back the
layers of that and you understand that she's still, you know,
a woman who is caught in her feelings and she
doesn't know it's exactly what's going on in the moment. Yes,
she's fearful and there's a lot driving her decisions at
this point. Blackmail she has, and she's been she it's
(08:10):
on record that she has been heavily influenced by drugs, yes,
with it during this time.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So majority of the things that they talked about the
day one when she took the stand were the freak offs,
how they were drug and drug fueled, the sex parties
orchestrated by Diddy. Then it kind of became a job
for her, so she had to put all of that
together to keep him happy. Now, she detailed like a
pattern of physical violence, sexual assault, psychological manipulation. She recounted
(08:41):
multiple instances of physical violence. And that's when they showed
the hotel video and we weren't sure if they were
going to use this as evidence, remember, because we were
like it was tampered with. They were different versions of
this video and they had said somewhere that the original
was deleted, but they got their hands on it. We
got the fifteen minute video of the assault at the hotel,
(09:05):
which was her escaping from a freak off.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Right, Oh, it's just like it's chilling, so messed up
to see.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
No, literally, it's it's so sad, it's so sad.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And then there are she you know, like we said,
she said that there was black blackmailing.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He kept telling her that she was.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
He was going to release videos of her most intimate,
embarrassing freak offs, and he was going to send it
to her mom, which her mom had no idea that
all of this was going on.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Between her and Diddy. Could you imagine that.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Like, No, I couldn't. I couldn't, Like I don't know
my mom would actually kill him. Yeah, you know, like
that just sucks, And like, yeah, I'm sure her mom's
probably going through a lot with this all being brought
up again.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Cassie mentioned that she used drugs every single time there
was a freak off because she just wanted to like
numb and.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Right, well, and see that's the thing, Like I totally
understand that, because like I wouldn't want to be all
the way there for that. There's too much going on like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
If you feel like you have to do it to
not piss him off, right, not to get your ass whooped. Yeah,
like at this point, you're just trying to survive.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And survival mode exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And she even mentioned on the standish the longest freak
off went on for four days because of how dry there, dude,
Oh my gosh, that poor thing.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Right, Well, yeah, that's the thing. It's like he didn't
he would get mad whenever she had to recover and
stuff like I can't imagine going through. She said, she
went through freakofs like while having like a yeast infection.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And yeah, like your cycle, like he didn't care, right,
she had a tongue source from friction. Like she said
that that's all that they could do was freak offs
and recover.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Honestly exhausting just thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I think this was mentioned.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I don't know if this was mentioned on day three
or day four, but Cassie talked about having a relationship
with Kit Cutty, and I think that was day three.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That was three.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Day three, Diddy found out through her emails, and it
looks like kid Cutty and Cassie met with Diddy and
that's when he I guess kit Cutty said something along.
I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go to my car,
and Diddy was like, what car and that's when the
car was exploded. But there are some of kit Cutty's
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representatives said that Kit Cutty said it was all true,
like it all happened. So that's that's another way where
it's like.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Justice her Kid Cutty and that car.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, and that car just a fear that he installed,
right and everyone.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Well, that's the thing. It's like, I think abusers are
notorious for isolating their victims, and that's exactly what was
evident there with the Kid Cutty situation. I mean, you're
intimidating this other person that's like trying to make their
way in, you know, And that's all it is. It's
an intimidation and it's because he has that power to
(12:07):
do so. And there's a big power dynamic that that
drives a lot of the decision making for Cassie Too.
At the end of the day, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Like the me too era, right, you know, it's like
it's not era, but the me too movement?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Is that that power that power trip that's higher ups
have on employees or Yeah, someone that's employed by them.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
There was another thing.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So if that, if kit Cutty just saw a little
bit of what that man could do, could you imagine
the people surrounding him. Which I'm not excusing them, but everyone.
I feel like everyone that worked or was somehow involved
with Diddy was there as long as they were out
of fear.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, I agree, because he's a control freak. Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
What was the other thing that I wanted to bring up?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Okay, she also testified.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Cassie testified that Diddy raped her in twenty eighteen, and
this is when she met up with him to have
closure on the relationship. She was already dating Alex Fine,
her now husband, and after that happened, I guess that's
when she tried to actually commit suicide and Alex, her husband,
saved her from I think it was like she was
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trying to run in traffic, in front of traffic or
something like that, which is just like, damn dude.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
He left her with so much trauma, literally at.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Her lowest, at her rock bottom, and again just so
sad like. And I think she's so brave for coming
forward and saying all this stuff, because you know, there
are a lot of victims who couldn't or can't in
their own situations, and for her to do this and
like really just even have to relive it. It's so brutal.
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And then she's pregnant too, so she's going through a
lot of emotions. Honestly, Like it is a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I would not be able to do that pregnant. Like
you don't understand how messed up your body is, right,
You're everything's at a whack heightened, right, Oh yeah, Like
I just feel so bad for her and the people
that are going in on her for like, oh she
wanted that, Like clearly you have never gone through anything, right,
you know, You've never been manipulated, you've never been abused,
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you've never been assaulted.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's just fucked up, right, because someone that's never really
been through it doesn't get it. Yeah, And I think
that's where like empathy needs to come into play. Like
people just need to have a little bit of empathy
and compassion because I think an ignorant mind can sit
here and just you know, sum it down to, oh,
she just chose this life, because no that's not the case.
No it's not. And her reality is so what is
(14:45):
her perception? Right? And like, it's what she experienced and
what she felt from that experience. So it's not fair
to just sum it up to, oh, she's an adult,
she just chose that. No, there's so much more going on.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Like I said, now, that's just kind of the gist
of the three days that she took the stand. Is
there anything else that I missed?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Well? Today was cross examination. Yeah, And honestly, with cross
examination we talked about like them having to take a
take a break and everything, and all I've really gathered
from that is that, you know, the defense is trying
to bring up some text messages that she sent him basically,
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you know, where she's like agreeing to have the freak offs.
I think that was hard for her, right because again.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, I mean that was all they pretty much could
show today.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
We're just explicit text messages and emails of her wanting to.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Have a freak off or stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But it's like at that point where like, okay, whatever,
she's trying to keep them happy.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Right, She's trying to keep them happy. She's expressed that and.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Also dealing with drug addiction at this point, right, you know,
so maybe her participating in these freak off to where
mostly the only time she could be high, right, we
don't know that.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, you know, it's most likely, and I just want
to see the prosecution really play this out. I mean,
we have so much more to go in this trial,
and I think, you know, with the hopefully they have
a case that they built a lot of evidence on
to prove the racketeering, the rico, everything like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Like I said, I think that she is vital in
this case to just.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Lay the fundamentals and really show how did he was,
like how he was every day to the jury. So
whenever they do bring other victims, nothing sounds out of pocket, right,
you know, nothing sounds like oh that, Like, there's no
way did he would do something like that? Now they
know how he liked to manipulate and control everyone around him.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
There's already a Jane Doe that they have on record
that's also a witness here. But as far as any
other witnesses, I don't think they've been called. We still
have a ways to go though.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Oh yeah, I did see though that there has been
three more rape lawsuits filed.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, this wild began and little miss Totty roll Head,
like that's one of the accusations and one of the
lawsuits being brought up is that he has a little
totty roll penis.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
You already know.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
That, imagine you know.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
He hasn't posted anything about this, and as soon as
that law suit, as soon as Za came out, he
he jumped on He just laughing. Of course he's clowning. No,
literally what he does best.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Has had a time. I'm sure watching all of this
unfold because the beef is real.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah yeah, So one last thing, Cassie's husband wasn't allowed
to be in the courtroom because it looks like he's
going to be a potential witness witness. Yes, so yeah,
I mean, I'm like, that's that's from Diddy's team, right,
legal team.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So I don't know why they're going to bring him in.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I don't know either. It should be interesting and like
I said, lots more to unfold here, so we'll.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Say, yeah, there's yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I just like I feel for her.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I don't know why Diddy's family even wants to be
in the court hearing all this either. I'm pretty sure
his daughters walked out, Yeah right, they walked down when
they heard I think it was I can't remember exactly
what it was like about a freak off, and they
couldn't they couldn't have I mean, I wouldn't want to
hear anything about my dad when he came to that stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah no, I mean, yeah no. I would not want
to be in the courtroom. I would be like good luck,
you know. No, it's it's ridiculous and I'm unacceptable. I
don't care who you are.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I did see somewhere.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I don't know how true this is so allegedly allegedly
they there was a witness that was supposed to show
up and didn't and they have no they can't contact.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
They can't find them, they can't find them convenience. I
wonder if it was a witness for the prosecution or
the defense.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Weird, it's weird overall.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, I hate when that happens. I've watched too much
SVU to know that that isn't you know, just a coincidence, coincidence.
I don't believe in coincidences.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
There were I remember seeing like some of the jury
that wasn't selected like that were let go.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
They were so glad. It's the part of this.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Which is crazy because I saw some of those reactions too,
and I'm like, yeah, I mean perst in class, raising
my hand like please, because I mean, don't get me wrong,
I guess it is like all the time in court,
but to just witness that high profile case and yeah,
the videos would suck. I would not want to see those.
But at the same time.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Like I'd be traumatized, Yeah, you'd be traumatized, but at
the same time, like it's.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Like one of the like the biggest cases of our time.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I mean this is this is a case that they've
been building for what years years.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Now, which is all happening pretty fast because the raid
was just last year, right, but oh did you Okay,
remember when they were figuring out the jury selection and
there was a couple of celebrity names that were dropped
and everybody was like, yeah, this is just gauging to
see like, you know, the potential jurors, like he knew
about Hollywood or celebrity names or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Now we know why Michael B. Jordan's name was dropped. Yeah,
did you see this?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
He did He accused Cassie of having a relationship with
Michael B.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Jordan, which.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I mean I would yeah, I wish, but that's the thing,
like that is just so insecure I as a man, Like,
I mean, I guess you got a lot to be
insecure about. You got a sinci roll pp.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah there it is right there.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It is, which most of the documentaries that have come out,
I mean, there's already been like five documentaries out on Diddy,
and it's just kind of like his childhood and what
he went through and he got to where he's at,
where he's at now. Most of the people from his
childhood say that he was very insecure.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Interesting, very and but then I'm just like, why you
need all that baby oil? You got a little totty
roll pp Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And it was like all over their body. They had
oil every five minutes. This was Cassie saying five minutes
every he would stop it, he would it was she said,
like almost like a music video, like he was directing
everything and like making them oil up every five minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It's such a weirdo bro.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, sick.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
No, literally, he's probably like a cock too. I mean
I would assume like with a little roll pp, he
he's got to be like a cook where he's let me,
this ain't the motive lies anyways, you know, we make funnies,
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and the truth of the matter is that there's nothing
funny about the situation. We're just funny people anyways, little
tetro pp, I don't even know where I was going
with that.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Okay, on to the next one.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
All day.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Should we talk about Taylor or should we talk about toy.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Let's talk about Taylor first, because I feel like that's
a little shorter.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Okay, that's definitely a lot shorter. So allegations have surfaced.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
On the ongoing legal battle.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Between Blake Lively and just About Donnie saying that saying
that Blake Lively pressured Taylor Swift to delete text messages
and also threatened to leak private communication if Taylor did
not publicly support her in this lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Blake Lively, the woman that you are. I can't stand you.
She's so petty.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
What now?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
When Blake filed that motion to have access to all records,
it also opened the door or Justin Baldoni's team to.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Have access to all of her records. So I believe it.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Even though she is denying all of this now, I
believe it because they have their hands on everything.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I believe it too. And with Taylor's name being brought
into it in the first place. I think that was
her doing because of the text messages with Justin Maldoni
where he texted her like oh like something Dragon. Yeah,
they were they like met and he was like, oh,
would have worked with you and Ryan or something like
that something their ideas.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Justin told Blake, I love your ideas. You didn't have
to bring bring Taylor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bryan, But it
looks like Taylor's team legal team responded, emphasizing that Taylor
had no involvement in the film It Ends with Us
beyond licensing one song.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
For a soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
They argued that the subpoena issued to Taylor Swift's an
abuse of discovery process and an attempt to just generate
tablet attention.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Maybe, but she's a peanut.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I mean, she is a pick me attention seeker.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I don't know, but I don't know. I believe it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, Like I mean, there's a lot of people in
the industry that have called Taylor Swift a mean girl
from what we've seen from the outside, because we don't
know the inside. She has always tried to move at
at least it seemed like she was always a nice girl, right,
try to move the right way.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
But I think this is going to show a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
It will well. And that's the thing. It's like everybody
has that side of them that they don't show everybody else.
So if she really, truly at her core is a
mean girl, then it is what it is, right, But the.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Truths always I don't know, so we'll see. I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I just I just don't know that, like it's gonna
be as crazy of a revelation. I think that maybe
there are text messages and.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Stuff, but like what kind of friend is that to
threaten you to release?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
But that's a thing that either way, it's not like
exactly because a lot happens in the.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Group, like, oh dude, you don't want to see you
don't want to see the group chat, Like there's a reason.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
And if y'all are girls, like you're not going to
bring it out, bring it up, bring it out of
the group chat.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
You know that was never your friend? Taylor picked better better?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Unless I mean, what's the saying you are who you
hang out with?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
She's just a snake in the garden for a.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
There is an article I don't know how true this is,
but they were saying that Taylor Swift distanced herself from
Blake Lively. Also because Sabrina Carpenter worked very closely with
Justin Baldoni. I believe he directed or produced something that
she was part of some show or movie.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Interesting, and she.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Like there's so many interviews with Sabrina Carpenter and that
is now good friends with Taylor Swift, speaking very highly
of Justin Baldoni, saying like what an incredible person, not
just like boss, director or producer or coworker, Like what.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
An incredible person he is.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So I don't know if Sabrina Carpenter, as Taylor Swift's friend,
was like, hey, like you know, I know him, and
he's not.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Not the way that's being painted yet.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, So I don't know if like that's true, if
we're gonna did also talk to Taylor.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
But there's a lot of like red lines connecting red
flag red flag too.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
No, that's but that's the thing, Like Raphael do you
mean Rafael from Jane the Virgin, Like never, you can
never He's like I love him. He's one of the
Kompa's Like no, he is.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's just gonna be very disappointing if it all comes
down to him messing up in some.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah way, I think that will disappoint me too, but
we'll see. Also another one we're gonna stay tuned into,
hopefully they I mean with that one, I really hope
that they tell about that, like they can tell this one.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
This one.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
This trial is scheduled for March twenty twenty six, less
than a year.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Why now, perfect.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Perfect timing, because this will be done yeah one.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, in between and then we'll enjoy this one, right,
enjoy Yeah literally though, Okay, Meghan Dye, Stallion, Tory Lanes,
and Miss Kelsey, so we know we actually I wonder
if this has anything to do with it. So Tory
Lanes is in prison for shooting a Megande Stallion. They
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went through trio and everything. He was found guilty. I
think he was. He's serving more than ten years.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
He's serving ten years a ten year sentence, and he
was recently stabbed, yes that multiple times.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Earlier this week he was stabbed I want to say
fifteen times. Yeah, something like that lapsed, but he's fine,
like he's recovering.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, nothing life threatening.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
They actually released like a photo of the guy that
did it scary looking dude.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, well then that guy was serving a life sentence. Yes, yeah,
I don't think he had a reason he needed a reason.
He was already serving a life sentence. I'm sure either
he got wind of something or someone, you know, I
don't know, or I don't know that mood. They could
have been anything.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, that's that's prison for you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
But now the reason why this is all the trial
is being brought back up is because supposedly Calsey's ex
bodyguard is coming out and saying, which by the way,
didn't testify, was nowhere to be founder or seen during
the trial. He is now saying that he heard Calsey
(28:22):
say that she shot Megan Dye Stallion, that it was
not Tory Lanees. And the reason why he came forward
and said this is because I guess his conscience was
not letting him live in peace knowing that an innocent
man was in prison.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You know, I mean, I made a song about a
guilty conscience, so I get it. We all got a
guilty conscience. But at the end of the day, bro,
you should have been told told somebody about this, like
what are you doing? Like it makes me so like
upset because me, I was doing my own investigative research
trying to figure this case out. I followed this like hawk,
like a hawk, just trying to figure out who did what,
(28:58):
who said what, you know. And I actually do think
that Tory stabbing was related to this UH information coming out,
because before the information became public and they had the
press conference, they actually filed a motion to have UH
to grant Tory a pardon for his charges. And I
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think we're spread about that and that's what set off
in motion him getting stabbed. But yeah, the oh my god,
I'm so disappointed in the legal system for like not
following up on all of these different things that they
were mentioning, like why wasn't his fingerprints on the gun right?
(29:44):
Why did Kelsey plead the fifth Why there are so
many like just question marks. And now at this day
and age, it's twenty twenty five, you would think that
they would cross their eyes and dot their t's, I mean,
cross their teas their eyes. I know what I'm mad, Yeah,
you know what I mean. Anyways, they need to get
(30:05):
it right before they they need to come correct, before
they just start sending people to ten years.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I know.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I just like It's like, what do you do though,
when that's all the evidence that you have, Like, do
you keep the investigation going? Do you pay the trial?
Do you give it another date? Because it was weird?
How Yeah, there was no his DNA was not found
on the gun. What I think the only damning thing
was the phone call.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
That's the thing we've heard. The call was very like
it made him look guilty.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, like because he's literally telling Kelsey on this phone
call that he's got her, that he's going to protect her,
that nothing's going to happen to them, you know what
I mean. It's almost I don't know, it was just weird.
It's like telling her to stay quiet and not say anything.
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
He came off very guilty in that phone call. And
I don't know if he was.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Actually trying to protect her because she's shot, or if
he was trying to save his ass, right, But it's
just so messy because they were all drunk, you know,
I don't think Oh.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah, and then no one took her DNA. The fact
that a Rock Nation label rep was there at during
Kelsey being questioned from that night's events, Like, there's a
lot of weird irregular irregularities. As the man who is
from the organization that is leading this charge for to
(31:24):
get Tori out, he said, there's a bunch of irregularities,
And I agree, because that's the thing it's been like,
it's been fucked Torri for real, Like, because at the
end of the day, I'm not gonna sympathize with a
woman shooting woman shooter right like you shot my girl
on the feet. She can't work. Fuck you, you know,
and I would do the same for you. Somebody fuck
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them for life. I appreciate, but I get it, you know,
like at the end of the day, she was probably
walking away, she didn't know who shot her. For real,
she probably, I mean, Tory saying dance, bitch dance probably
didn't help the situation either.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
If she heard that, I would assume I would, because
what the bodyguard is saying is that Kelsey shot first,
and then Tory tried to take the gun from her,
and the gun the gun went off.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Two more times. So that's what the bodyguard is saying.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Because at first I saw something that he saw it,
But then now I'm seeing that he heard Kelsey tell
that say that to someone, So I'm like, okay, seeing
it and hearing it is completely different. If I heard it,
I don't, I don't know, but if you saw it.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, I need to know exactly what it was. I
need it on the record, and I need you to
not like I need something to happen because why is
Toy so locked up? Why isn't Kelsey behind bars like
like she should exactly where is she?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I don't know if this case is going to be reopened,
I mean making these stellings attorneys shut down the claims
of new evidence.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
That's so strange. Yeah, the fact that they're not even
acknowledging it.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I mean there is ways money. Was he paid?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I would not doubt it. I mean, but then like
if you're paid, like you would think that a guilty
conscience wouldn't mean nothing. Maybe he wasn't paid.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Maybe he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, I don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
It's just really strained. How just now he's he's.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Just coming out and saying all of this, and it's yeah,
convenient timing too, But I mean, if Tory is innocent,
free that man. Yeah, and if Kelsey shot the gun,
lock a bitch up.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
It's so crazy because in this whole thing, like Tory.
Never let's say it was Kelsey. Tory never threw her under.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
The bus, never once.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I didn't to save himself. No, do you think he
would though, or is he no?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I think all that he would take the heat for her. Well,
it's obviously that he's taken the heat for her so far.
And I also think too, like it makes sense why
Tory wouldn't say anything because obviously he knew he was
facing prison time and if he were to say anything anyways,
like that puts an automatic target on your head if
you're a rat.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So I don't like he didn't have a choice. He
had to either just ride it out or and see
what it was. Because I mean, at the end of
the day, then he's a Then he's if he gets free,
and say like whenever this whole trial happened, he gets
free because he rated on Kelsey, then he's a rat
walk in the streets. That's a target either way. Like
you also you snitch on your woman, Like that's not
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a good look either. So he was inna damned if
he did, damned if he didn't. Position he Yeah, I
don't know. That bodyguard needs to let us know whether
he heard it or he saw it.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I'm trying to see if I get any info on.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
That, yeah, because I think that's gonna be what's gonna
get him out. They are already calling for the government
to get him out and everything the governor I mean sorry,
but they're also claiming that the district attorney that was
in office at the time of these proceedings had an
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agenda to push like gun laws, and that's basically why
this case, even with these irregularities, was still moved forward
and processed as it was. He was found guilty all
of that because they were essentially trying to make an
example out of him. This was essentially the silver bullet
case for whatever agenda was being pushed for the district
(35:34):
attorney's office. At least that's the gist I got from
yesterday's press conference.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Well, the bodyguard allegedly submitted in Affidavid stating he witnessed
Harris holding a gun that night and overheard her discussing
firing it, suggesting she might.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Have been responsible for the shooting. Is what we're seeing. Hmm.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I don't know how to feel about that, but I
don't know how to feel about either. But they said
if she would have been tested for gunpowder, if she
if the gun would have been tested for her Prince, like,
those are the things that would have driven this case
home and not sent an innocent man to jail. And
I think that there was a level of, you know,
responsibility on the Justice Department to make sure that that
(36:17):
was seen.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Needs to do better, needs to do I wonder how
Meg feels about.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
This, That's what I don't know if she hasn't posted
anything about it. And I honestly don't blame her because
at the end of the day, like she's already gone
through so much with this.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I know, having to reopen all of this again, She's
probably like what And that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
That's crazy too, is because like this all happened, and
you know, at the end of the day, her and
Tory were arguing, But Kelsey did have motive. Kelsey had
the motive to shoot her. I mean, Kelsey and Tory
were talking first and then he got involved with Meg
and that's why they were arguing. You know, it's so messy.
(37:02):
That's a thing.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You would hate Megan at this point. And yeah, she
had a motive. I mean I've always said Tory Lanez
is a hot head because we like experienced him having
a moment at what a radio show that we had
with him.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
So I don't know, I don't know it both of them.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yeah, well that's the thing. I think. It's just like
the whole situation is messy because even with like, you know,
he didn't help his case, even after everything. He was
trying to claim his innocence, but then he was still
going coming out here chopping up horses on music videos.
He was saying weird stuff, I'm live and like just
talking mad shit, and you know that doesn't help whenever
(37:48):
you're trying to prove your innocence, right, No, yeah, he's
just being He's a petty king, he is. But I
guess we'll see what comes of that too. There's so
much up in the air in hollyweird.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
That and I mean there's just the amount of stories
that have come out this week.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
I'm like, oh, it's so much information and it's overtaking
my brain.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It is because did you see the whole d DDG and.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yaliali my god, Well I saw that he was given
a restraining order on live.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, she was.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
They granted her the restraining order and right now she
has a temporary full custody of their kid. But it's
crazy the amount of people that are coming out to
support DDG and they're they're like, he would never, Like
if you know this man, he would never. But she's
showing pictures of bruises in her arms and a chip
tooth and pretty intense text messages that he's sending her
(38:43):
for accusing her or finding out that she was on
vacation with another dude when they're not together.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
You know, that's the thing. People, you think you know
somebody as a celebrity, as a personality, you don't really
know that person.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
But this is like his brother was on streaming like rying, uh,
these are like his homies. Yeah, you know, but still
like your homies could be your homie could be completely
different with you than he is with a significant other.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
You're right, Well, that's the thing, like you really don't
know them for real. Yeah, sometimes you know, like people
have a different side to them and not saying that
it's true. I don't know, you know the situation between them.
But if she's showing evidence like obviously that you can't
really like refute that was she just gonna do that
to herself?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
No, Like what the hell. So there's that.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
There's that there was Austin. Oh yeah, big broom, I
forgette Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Is this the YouTubers?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, the YouTubers, the one that want on stop. But
he's so funny, Like I hate him, Sorry, I hate
him because he's such a villain, but like he's so funny.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I don't know who this is though, you don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Who it is. So it's like the Ace family.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yes, yes, okay, so I've always known of the name
the family, but I never watched.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I've never really watched either. Anything I've seen is like
against my will type of thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, but like, like all the evidence is coming out
that he cheated on his girl, like the entire time or.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Something like that. Basically, I mean she like did like
a little expos in her book that she wrote. I
mean they were together and allegedly like he cheated on her,
but she was also going through things I guess in
her he basically, in response to her book, he went
on a Snapchat story and was exposing her and said
(40:33):
that she was basically doing ayahuasca once a week.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Oh sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, Well, and she's going on these spiritual journeys. She's
bringing in people to like their house where their kids
would stay, to do these trips, and she would just
get high out of her mind. And then she was
she revealed that like she was a mermaid in her
past life and weird. She's weird and like she got
super into like you know, spirituality and stuff. And then
(40:59):
I don't know, she just she took a different route.
And I think his perception of her change, and you know,
people change, so I think if he said at one
point too, yeah, he said at one point too, like
she was like, you know what, if you're you're gonna
do what you're gonna do, just don't make a fool
out of me, you know. So it's like it's like
he cheated on her. But then she also kind of
(41:20):
like allowed it and like still stick around for it
and you and it was like, right, I just decided
to look the other way. So it's like, I don't know.
Each party is kind of just like has their own story.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
So they portrayed to be like this perfect family and yea,
now we're hearing all this right. You know, Baby's always
said the people that overly post about how happy they
are in their relationship are usually the ones that have
the most issues, and I feel like when they do that,
they're trying to convince themselves that their life, that the
relationship is great.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
That's Steve, I know.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
And you know what, his theory is not far off
because we have witnessed a couple of people from our past,
like high school, that got married and then posted like
they were the greatest thing in the world and end
up getting a divorce and he will Sandy screech.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I was like, they're divorced, Like.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
What the hell, you're crazy. Yeah, he's in everybody's business
like that. She's muscles. It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah, he's one of us.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, yes, yes, he knows more than I do, which
is fun.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Him filling you in is like the best, it's the best.
But I do come home from work and he's like
any juice. I'm like, Hello, how's your day at work?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
So funny.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Oh yeah, so that's like the tea with that, I'm
trying to think, is there there's a lot.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
There's a lot more so I have my show prep
stuff right here.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Oh remember the whole Astra World Festival tragedy.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Oh yeah, they're making a document, making a.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Documentary on Netflix about that. What else?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Oh, I submitted for my claim with my Apple lawsuit.
If you didn't know, there's an Apple lawsuit and you
could be compensated for your Apple devices Becauseiri was listening
in on you the whole.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Time on those private covers.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
She heard you having sex and everything.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah, oh dang, you didn't think.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
About that one, did you? Really?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
If you're talking a whole lot of shit too, get
your money.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, I mean that's pretty much it.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
That's pretty much it. I mean, man, I mean there's
so much And you know, next weekend's my birthday. Yeah,
nice season coming up upon us.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
But you doing my birthday?
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Well, birthday celebration starts this weekend. Actually we're I'm going
to brunch this weekend and then we're celebrating Jazzon's birthday
at the Global Ambassador and then following that my birthday,
I'm going to Disney. Yeah, we're gonna do a little
seventieth celebration. And I can't wait to be happy. That's
(44:02):
the whole thing. They say, come find you're happy. I'm like,
I'm there.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I'm there, right, And it'll be so much fun. We're
taking like a little road trip there and then I'll
come back and then you're a pool party.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
So it's just like another birthday celebration.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah, we're gonna end your birthday month off with a banger.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
No, literally on the.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Last day, literally the last day.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, and God said, let there be a banger.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I'm scared.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
I just don't know what I'm gonna aware. But it's fine.
This girl decided to have a theme, y'all.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, and nobody knows about it, but you like, I
still haven't told all my other girl.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
You need to let it, let it be know.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
And I just needed to get paid today, so I
can't say by decorations and then officially say we have
a theme. Right, we'll talk more about that next week.
It's already forty five minutes in, and we grew a
lot at you. If you wanted to know what Holly
Weird was up.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
To, right, don't be weird, don't be like Holly Weird.
Yeah no, but we're here to fill you in whenever
it is weird. Notice you, when you step into Hollyweird,
you get weird. Yeah, you just get weird. You just
get weird. To stay away, don't do it. Bye,
I am overwhelmed.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
There's so much, There is so much happening in Hollyweird.
I started recording, Oh, Hollyweird, Holly Weird, in Hollyweird, in here,
Holly Weirder.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
Holly weirder, just when you thought it couldn't get any weirder,
and Hollyweird.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
It's insane, it's weird, insane.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
I wish we were recording video right now too, but
I don't even know what episode were on. I think
thirty one, thirty like that. Just look, you don't need
to tell it. If we don't need to tell you.
Speaker 3 (00:29):
We're in our thirties now, we're mature.
Speaker 1 (00:31):
What tool my tool?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Remind me later you it's my camera that's not working.
It's okay, that's so rude.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
It's very rude.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Okay, can I tell you the latest? Okay, we are
going to get into the Diddy trial.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
Wait, but first let's preface with there is so much
to get into in the first place, so a lot,
there's an agenda.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Okay, I this we weren't going to talk about this,
but this is news that just came out. I want
to talk really quick about Drake and the UMG lawsuit.
We're going to talk about Diddy and Cassie mainly, and
then we got to talk about Tory Lanez making these
Stallion and Kelsey, and then we have to talk about
Blake Lively, Taylor Swift and Justin Baldoni.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
Well, buckle in because we've got a lot to talk about.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Get ready for this crazy ride.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Okay, So we know that Drake is and this UMG
lawsuit has been going on for a while now, but
scholars are now warning Drake that this lawsuit could have
like major legal repercussions, And I was like, okay about
les interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
So if a ruling in.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Favor of Drake happens, that can encourage more artists to
pursue legal action over lyrical content, which could lead into
an effect on creative expression and freedom, which would change
the entire music industry because then you they would be
afraid to go hard on dis track or whatever it
is that they're working on now. Favoring UMG in this lawsuit,
(01:59):
Marie and force the protection of art artistic freedom, but
could also prompt discussions about the ethical boundaries of lyrical content.
So I feel like if Drake wins this lawsuit, he
might be the most hated man in the music industry
because it could change the course of music moving forward,
which nobody wants to hit get hit with crazy allegations
like being a pedophile.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Yeah, but at the end of the day, you're in
a boxing ring and it's only you. I mean, the
legal system can't really help you, and you know, you
just got to put your dukes up and get ready
to take the blows as they come.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
But that is also a fundamental distracts are also like
a hip hop like.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Rap battles like It's the streets were born on this
it was raised.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
You agreed to go on this rap beef and he
came back.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
I should have stayed a pop stars.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Should have just you know what is what does Kendrick say,
keep making me dance, waving my hands and nang on being.
Speaker 1 (02:57):
No three m.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
I right.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
So I just thought that was fascinating because he could
end up being the most hated person in the music industry.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
And now you have to be.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
Very careful with what you say or what you put
in a song.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Because it could be legally used against you.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah. Well, and I think they've been working towards that
in a lot of different cases. So I don't. I
think Drakes would be the nail in the coffin for
sure because of the whole little Jerk trial. They used
an young Doug and you know, there's been a lot
of trials recently where words and songs have been used
against these music artists. So I mean, Drake's gonna do
(03:38):
his big one that is.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Oh my gosh, we'll see what happens with that, Okay,
Diddy and Cassie moving on, moving on this, Okay, So
it took a week to actually select the jury, so
the actual trial began.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
Opening statements began on Monday.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
We are on day four of Cassie Ventura, Diddy's ex
taking the stand.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Chilling, honestly, and I think we can all agree on this.
We all wish this was televised.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Yeah, because no, I just I feel for Okay, so
like everything is out there right.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
What she's saying, what happened, But she also has like kids,
like those little girls.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
And hearing this or like having the whole world see
I know, I just feel like there's a lot at risk,
especially for the victims that, yeah, are supposedly in these
videos too. So it's like, I don't know, it's a
very intimate.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
I agree in that sense where it's like I understand
why even with the court being closed off to you know,
certain members of the press and everything like that. I
get why it's like that because of all the sensitive
nature of things, but just for the entertainment aspect and
us wanting to see, Like I'm getting my information late after,
(04:55):
you know, everyone comes out of the courtroom and I'm
getting like debriefed on these news outlets, and I just
I just need to see it in real life. Like
to the Johnny Depp and Amber her.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Trial, it was yeah, but honestly, like I would not
be able to work.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Yeah, no, I wouldn't either.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Got to be glued to this thing because there is
just so much information coming out and it's like, oh
and heavy.
Speaker 3 (05:18):
I know that cross examination was brutal.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Oh yeah, she actually had to take a break today.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
She was asked, she asked if she could like have
a moment, and so they took like a ten minute
recess like her and the jury. I did see that,
but yeah, so we know for those who don't know,
because like I'm trying to talk to baby my husband
about it, and he's like, I have no idea what's
going on, Like.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Really, I feel like I can't escape it right now.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Same, but we also work in media.
Speaker 3 (05:41):
True.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Now, Okay, So this trial is for sex trafficking and
racketeering and transportation to engage in prostitution. That's where it's
like the lines are blurred a little bit with Cassie's situation.
But I feel like she was brought in to kind
of lay the foundation on the basis of how did
he works? How he is the type of person right
(06:05):
all that you know?
Speaker 3 (06:06):
And the thing about Cassie's case is that they're really
highlighting all of the domestic abuse, and the defense is
trying to play that into the narrative that she was
you know, she was in a domestic relationship and basically
like she chose to stay when that's really not the case.
(06:26):
You know, there's a bigger picture here, and I think
that's what the prosecution is building upon as we're going
through these motions.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
So, for those who don't know, so did he signed
Cassie to his record label when she was nineteen? So
she was part of bad Boy Records in early two
thousand and six, and then you know, how did he is?
I Mean, we see all these videos of like he
kind of just houses them, like he keeps them with them,
he shows them like the world and whatnot. Well, I
(06:54):
think their relationship started when she turned twenty one and
they went on a vague She talked about this on Stan.
They went on a Vegas trip to celebrate her birthday
and he kissed her and that's when it was.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
That's when that began. And she was with a Diddy
for ten years. So I feel like.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
She's also I think, what does she say their age
difference is it's a big It's a big difference. It's
a big difference. Yeah, so just that in itself, like
he's her boss. Hm, you're also a lot older than her. Yeah,
she's of age, but like she doesn't know she's impressionable.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
She's young. Yeah, and not only that, but like the
girl is, you know, just a girl. And she admitted
to this in court that you know, she didn't have
that people pleaser like mindset a little bit. So she's
just wanting to make her man happy. And so I
think that's what's also getting miscontrued in some aspects and
comment sections and everything. Everybody's like, you know, she chose
(07:50):
to stay with him. No, I mean there's levels to it,
and you have to understand that, you peel back the
layers of that and you understand that she's still, you know,
a woman who is caught in her feelings and she
doesn't know it's exactly what's going on in the moment. Yes,
she's fearful and there's a lot driving her decisions at
this point. Blackmail she has, and she's been she it's
(08:10):
on record that she has been heavily influenced by drugs, yes,
with it during this time.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
So majority of the things that they talked about the
day one when she took the stand were the freak offs,
how they were drug and drug fueled, the sex parties
orchestrated by Diddy. Then it kind of became a job
for her, so she had to put all of that
together to keep him happy. Now, she detailed like a
pattern of physical violence, sexual assault, psychological manipulation. She recounted
(08:41):
multiple instances of physical violence. And that's when they showed
the hotel video and we weren't sure if they were
going to use this as evidence, remember, because we were
like it was tampered with. They were different versions of
this video and they had said somewhere that the original
was deleted, but they got their hands on it. We
got the fifteen minute video of the assault at the hotel,
(09:05):
which was her escaping from a freak off.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Right, Oh, it's just like it's chilling, so messed up
to see.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
No, literally, it's it's so sad, it's so sad.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
And then there are she you know, like we said,
she said that there was black blackmailing.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
He kept telling her that she was.
Speaker 2 (09:26):
He was going to release videos of her most intimate,
embarrassing freak offs, and he was going to send it
to her mom, which her mom had no idea that
all of this was going on.
Speaker 1 (09:35):
Between her and Diddy. Could you imagine that.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
Like, No, I couldn't. I couldn't, Like I don't know
my mom would actually kill him. Yeah, you know, like
that just sucks, And like, yeah, I'm sure her mom's
probably going through a lot with this all being brought
up again.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Cassie mentioned that she used drugs every single time there
was a freak off because she just wanted to like
numb and.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Right, well, and see that's the thing, Like I totally
understand that, because like I wouldn't want to be all
the way there for that. There's too much going on like, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
If you feel like you have to do it to
not piss him off, right, not to get your ass whooped. Yeah,
like at this point, you're just trying to survive.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
And survival mode exactly.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
And she even mentioned on the standish the longest freak
off went on for four days because of how dry there, dude,
Oh my gosh, that poor thing.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Right, Well, yeah, that's the thing. It's like he didn't
he would get mad whenever she had to recover and
stuff like I can't imagine going through. She said, she
went through freakofs like while having like a yeast infection.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And yeah, like your cycle, like he didn't care, right,
she had a tongue source from friction. Like she said
that that's all that they could do was freak offs
and recover.
Speaker 3 (10:56):
Honestly exhausting just thinking about it.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
I think this was mentioned.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
I don't know if this was mentioned on day three
or day four, but Cassie talked about having a relationship
with Kit Cutty, and I think that was day three.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
That was three.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Day three, Diddy found out through her emails, and it
looks like kid Cutty and Cassie met with Diddy and
that's when he I guess kit Cutty said something along.
I was like, Okay, I'm gonna go to my car,
and Diddy was like, what car and that's when the
car was exploded. But there are some of kit Cutty's
(11:31):
representatives said that Kit Cutty said it was all true,
like it all happened. So that's that's another way where
it's like.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Justice her Kid Cutty and that car.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah, and that car just a fear that he installed,
right and everyone.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
Well, that's the thing. It's like, I think abusers are
notorious for isolating their victims, and that's exactly what was
evident there with the Kid Cutty situation. I mean, you're
intimidating this other person that's like trying to make their
way in, you know, And that's all it is. It's
an intimidation and it's because he has that power to
(12:07):
do so. And there's a big power dynamic that that
drives a lot of the decision making for Cassie Too.
At the end of the day, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
Like the me too era, right, you know, it's like
it's not era, but the me too movement?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Is that that power that power trip that's higher ups
have on employees or Yeah, someone that's employed by them.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
There was another thing.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
So if that, if kit Cutty just saw a little
bit of what that man could do, could you imagine
the people surrounding him. Which I'm not excusing them, but everyone.
I feel like everyone that worked or was somehow involved
with Diddy was there as long as they were out
of fear.
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, I agree, because he's a control freak. Mm hm.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
What was the other thing that I wanted to bring up?
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (12:54):
Okay, she also testified.
Speaker 2 (12:57):
Cassie testified that Diddy raped her in twenty eighteen, and
this is when she met up with him to have
closure on the relationship. She was already dating Alex Fine,
her now husband, and after that happened, I guess that's
when she tried to actually commit suicide and Alex, her husband,
saved her from I think it was like she was
(13:19):
trying to run in traffic, in front of traffic or
something like that, which is just like, damn dude.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
He left her with so much trauma, literally at.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Her lowest, at her rock bottom, and again just so
sad like. And I think she's so brave for coming
forward and saying all this stuff, because you know, there
are a lot of victims who couldn't or can't in
their own situations, and for her to do this and
like really just even have to relive it. It's so brutal.
(13:49):
And then she's pregnant too, so she's going through a
lot of emotions. Honestly, Like it is a lot.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I would not be able to do that pregnant. Like
you don't understand how messed up your body is, right,
You're everything's at a whack heightened, right, Oh yeah, Like
I just feel so bad for her and the people
that are going in on her for like, oh she
wanted that, Like clearly you have never gone through anything, right,
you know, You've never been manipulated, you've never been abused,
(14:19):
you've never been assaulted.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
It's just fucked up, right, because someone that's never really
been through it doesn't get it. Yeah, And I think
that's where like empathy needs to come into play. Like
people just need to have a little bit of empathy
and compassion because I think an ignorant mind can sit
here and just you know, sum it down to, oh,
she just chose this life, because no that's not the case.
No it's not. And her reality is so what is
(14:45):
her perception? Right? And like, it's what she experienced and
what she felt from that experience. So it's not fair
to just sum it up to, oh, she's an adult,
she just chose that. No, there's so much more going on.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Like I said, now, that's just kind of the gist
of the three days that she took the stand. Is
there anything else that I missed?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
Well? Today was cross examination. Yeah, And honestly, with cross
examination we talked about like them having to take a
take a break and everything, and all I've really gathered
from that is that, you know, the defense is trying
to bring up some text messages that she sent him basically,
(15:30):
you know, where she's like agreeing to have the freak offs.
I think that was hard for her, right because again.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Yeah, I mean that was all they pretty much could
show today.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
We're just explicit text messages and emails of her wanting to.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
Have a freak off or stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
But it's like at that point where like, okay, whatever,
she's trying to keep them happy.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Right, She's trying to keep them happy. She's expressed that and.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Also dealing with drug addiction at this point, right, you know,
so maybe her participating in these freak off to where
mostly the only time she could be high, right, we
don't know that.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Yeah, you know, it's most likely, and I just want
to see the prosecution really play this out. I mean,
we have so much more to go in this trial,
and I think, you know, with the hopefully they have
a case that they built a lot of evidence on
to prove the racketeering, the rico, everything like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Like I said, I think that she is vital in
this case to just.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Lay the fundamentals and really show how did he was,
like how he was every day to the jury. So
whenever they do bring other victims, nothing sounds out of pocket, right,
you know, nothing sounds like oh that, Like, there's no
way did he would do something like that? Now they
know how he liked to manipulate and control everyone around him.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
There's already a Jane Doe that they have on record
that's also a witness here. But as far as any
other witnesses, I don't think they've been called. We still
have a ways to go though.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Oh yeah, I did see though that there has been
three more rape lawsuits filed.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, this wild began and little miss Totty roll Head,
like that's one of the accusations and one of the
lawsuits being brought up is that he has a little
totty roll penis.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
You already know.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
That, imagine you know.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
He hasn't posted anything about this, and as soon as
that law suit, as soon as Za came out, he
he jumped on He just laughing. Of course he's clowning. No,
literally what he does best.
Speaker 3 (17:40):
Has had a time. I'm sure watching all of this
unfold because the beef is real.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Yeah yeah, So one last thing, Cassie's husband wasn't allowed
to be in the courtroom because it looks like he's
going to be a potential witness witness. Yes, so yeah,
I mean, I'm like, that's that's from Diddy's team, right,
legal team.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
So I don't know why they're going to bring him in.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
I don't know either. It should be interesting and like
I said, lots more to unfold here, so we'll.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Say, yeah, there's yeah, it's a lot.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
I just like I feel for her.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
I do too.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I don't know why Diddy's family even wants to be
in the court hearing all this either. I'm pretty sure
his daughters walked out, Yeah right, they walked down when
they heard I think it was I can't remember exactly
what it was like about a freak off, and they
couldn't they couldn't have I mean, I wouldn't want to
hear anything about my dad when he came to that stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
Yeah no, I mean, yeah no. I would not want
to be in the courtroom. I would be like good luck,
you know. No, it's it's ridiculous and I'm unacceptable. I
don't care who you are.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
I did see somewhere.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
I don't know how true this is so allegedly allegedly
they there was a witness that was supposed to show
up and didn't and they have no they can't contact.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
They can't find them, they can't find them convenience. I
wonder if it was a witness for the prosecution or
the defense.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Weird, it's weird overall.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, I hate when that happens. I've watched too much
SVU to know that that isn't you know, just a coincidence, coincidence.
I don't believe in coincidences.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
There were I remember seeing like some of the jury
that wasn't selected like that were let go.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
They were so glad. It's the part of this.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Which is crazy because I saw some of those reactions too,
and I'm like, yeah, I mean perst in class, raising
my hand like please, because I mean, don't get me wrong,
I guess it is like all the time in court,
but to just witness that high profile case and yeah,
the videos would suck. I would not want to see those.
But at the same time.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
Like I'd be traumatized, Yeah, you'd be traumatized, but at
the same time, like it's.
Speaker 3 (19:53):
Like one of the like the biggest cases of our time.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Oh for sure.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
I mean this is this is a case that they've
been building for what years years.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Now, which is all happening pretty fast because the raid
was just last year, right, but oh did you Okay,
remember when they were figuring out the jury selection and
there was a couple of celebrity names that were dropped
and everybody was like, yeah, this is just gauging to
see like, you know, the potential jurors, like he knew
about Hollywood or celebrity names or whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:26):
Now we know why Michael B. Jordan's name was dropped. Yeah,
did you see this?
Speaker 2 (20:29):
He did He accused Cassie of having a relationship with
Michael B.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Jordan, which.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
I mean I would yeah, I wish, but that's the thing,
like that is just so insecure I as a man, Like,
I mean, I guess you got a lot to be
insecure about. You got a sinci roll pp.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah there it is right there.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
It is, which most of the documentaries that have come out,
I mean, there's already been like five documentaries out on Diddy,
and it's just kind of like his childhood and what
he went through and he got to where he's at,
where he's at now. Most of the people from his
childhood say that he was very insecure.
Speaker 3 (21:09):
Interesting, very and but then I'm just like, why you
need all that baby oil? You got a little totty
roll pp Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
And it was like all over their body. They had
oil every five minutes. This was Cassie saying five minutes
every he would stop it, he would it was she said,
like almost like a music video, like he was directing
everything and like making them oil up every five minutes.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
It's such a weirdo bro.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, sick.
Speaker 3 (21:36):
No, literally, he's probably like a cock too. I mean
I would assume like with a little roll pp, he
he's got to be like a cook where he's let me,
this ain't the motive lies anyways, you know, we make funnies,
(21:59):
and the truth of the matter is that there's nothing
funny about the situation. We're just funny people anyways, little
tetro pp, I don't even know where I was going
with that.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Okay, on to the next one.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
All day.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
Should we talk about Taylor or should we talk about toy.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Let's talk about Taylor first, because I feel like that's
a little shorter.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Okay, that's definitely a lot shorter. So allegations have surfaced.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
On the ongoing legal battle.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Between Blake Lively and just About Donnie saying that saying
that Blake Lively pressured Taylor Swift to delete text messages
and also threatened to leak private communication if Taylor did
not publicly support her in this lawsuit.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Blake Lively, the woman that you are. I can't stand you.
She's so petty.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
What now?
Speaker 2 (22:56):
When Blake filed that motion to have access to all records,
it also opened the door or Justin Baldoni's team to.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Have access to all of her records. So I believe it.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Even though she is denying all of this now, I
believe it because they have their hands on everything.
Speaker 3 (23:13):
I believe it too. And with Taylor's name being brought
into it in the first place. I think that was
her doing because of the text messages with Justin Maldoni
where he texted her like oh like something Dragon. Yeah,
they were they like met and he was like, oh,
would have worked with you and Ryan or something like
that something their ideas.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
Justin told Blake, I love your ideas. You didn't have
to bring bring Taylor. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Bryan, But it
looks like Taylor's team legal team responded, emphasizing that Taylor
had no involvement in the film It Ends with Us
beyond licensing one song.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
For a soundtrack.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
They argued that the subpoena issued to Taylor Swift's an
abuse of discovery process and an attempt to just generate
tablet attention.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Maybe, but she's a peanut.
Speaker 3 (24:05):
I mean, she is a pick me attention seeker.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
I don't know, but I don't know. I believe it.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, Like I mean, there's a lot of people in
the industry that have called Taylor Swift a mean girl
from what we've seen from the outside, because we don't
know the inside. She has always tried to move at
at least it seemed like she was always a nice girl, right,
try to move the right way.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
But I think this is going to show a lot.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
It will well. And that's the thing. It's like everybody
has that side of them that they don't show everybody else.
So if she really, truly at her core is a
mean girl, then it is what it is, right, But the.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
Truths always I don't know, so we'll see. I don't.
Speaker 3 (24:44):
I just I just don't know that, like it's gonna
be as crazy of a revelation. I think that maybe
there are text messages and.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Stuff, but like what kind of friend is that to
threaten you to release?
Speaker 3 (24:54):
But that's a thing that either way, it's not like
exactly because a lot happens in the.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Group, like, oh dude, you don't want to see you
don't want to see the group chat, Like there's a reason.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
And if y'all are girls, like you're not going to
bring it out, bring it up, bring it out of
the group chat.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Right?
Speaker 3 (25:08):
You know that was never your friend? Taylor picked better better?
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Unless I mean, what's the saying you are who you
hang out with?
Speaker 3 (25:17):
She's just a snake in the garden for a.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
There is an article I don't know how true this is,
but they were saying that Taylor Swift distanced herself from
Blake Lively. Also because Sabrina Carpenter worked very closely with
Justin Baldoni. I believe he directed or produced something that
she was part of some show or movie.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
Interesting, and she.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Like there's so many interviews with Sabrina Carpenter and that
is now good friends with Taylor Swift, speaking very highly
of Justin Baldoni, saying like what an incredible person, not
just like boss, director or producer or coworker, Like what.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
An incredible person he is.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
So I don't know if Sabrina Carpenter, as Taylor Swift's friend,
was like, hey, like you know, I know him, and
he's not.
Speaker 3 (26:04):
Not the way that's being painted yet.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
Yeah, So I don't know if like that's true, if
we're gonna did also talk to Taylor.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
But there's a lot of like red lines connecting red
flag red flag too.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
No, that's but that's the thing, Like Raphael do you
mean Rafael from Jane the Virgin, Like never, you can
never He's like I love him. He's one of the
Kompa's Like no, he is.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's just gonna be very disappointing if it all comes
down to him messing up in some.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah way, I think that will disappoint me too, but
we'll see. Also another one we're gonna stay tuned into,
hopefully they I mean with that one, I really hope
that they tell about that, like they can tell this one.
Speaker 1 (26:47):
This one.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
This trial is scheduled for March twenty twenty six, less
than a year.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
Why now, perfect.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
Perfect timing, because this will be done yeah one.
Speaker 2 (26:56):
Yeah, in between and then we'll enjoy this one, right,
enjoy Yeah literally though, Okay, Meghan Dye, Stallion, Tory Lanes,
and Miss Kelsey, so we know we actually I wonder
if this has anything to do with it. So Tory
Lanes is in prison for shooting a Megande Stallion. They
(27:18):
went through trio and everything. He was found guilty. I
think he was. He's serving more than ten years.
Speaker 3 (27:23):
He's serving ten years a ten year sentence, and he
was recently stabbed, yes that multiple times.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
Earlier this week he was stabbed I want to say
fifteen times. Yeah, something like that lapsed, but he's fine,
like he's recovering.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Yeah, nothing life threatening.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
They actually released like a photo of the guy that
did it scary looking dude.
Speaker 3 (27:44):
Yeah, well then that guy was serving a life sentence. Yes, yeah,
I don't think he had a reason he needed a reason.
He was already serving a life sentence. I'm sure either
he got wind of something or someone, you know, I
don't know, or I don't know that mood. They could
have been anything.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Yeah, that's that's prison for you. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
But now the reason why this is all the trial
is being brought back up is because supposedly Calsey's ex
bodyguard is coming out and saying, which by the way,
didn't testify, was nowhere to be founder or seen during
the trial. He is now saying that he heard Calsey
(28:22):
say that she shot Megan Dye Stallion, that it was
not Tory Lanees. And the reason why he came forward
and said this is because I guess his conscience was
not letting him live in peace knowing that an innocent
man was in prison.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
You know, I mean, I made a song about a
guilty conscience, so I get it. We all got a
guilty conscience. But at the end of the day, bro,
you should have been told told somebody about this, like
what are you doing? Like it makes me so like
upset because me, I was doing my own investigative research
trying to figure this case out. I followed this like hawk,
like a hawk, just trying to figure out who did what,
(28:58):
who said what, you know. And I actually do think
that Tory stabbing was related to this UH information coming out,
because before the information became public and they had the
press conference, they actually filed a motion to have UH
to grant Tory a pardon for his charges. And I
(29:24):
think we're spread about that and that's what set off
in motion him getting stabbed. But yeah, the oh my god,
I'm so disappointed in the legal system for like not
following up on all of these different things that they
were mentioning, like why wasn't his fingerprints on the gun right?
(29:44):
Why did Kelsey plead the fifth Why there are so
many like just question marks. And now at this day
and age, it's twenty twenty five, you would think that
they would cross their eyes and dot their t's, I mean,
cross their teas their eyes. I know what I'm mad, Yeah,
you know what I mean. Anyways, they need to get
(30:05):
it right before they they need to come correct, before
they just start sending people to ten years.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
I know.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
I just like It's like, what do you do though,
when that's all the evidence that you have, Like, do
you keep the investigation going? Do you pay the trial?
Do you give it another date? Because it was weird?
How Yeah, there was no his DNA was not found
on the gun. What I think the only damning thing
was the phone call.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
That's the thing we've heard. The call was very like
it made him look guilty.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, like because he's literally telling Kelsey on this phone
call that he's got her, that he's going to protect her,
that nothing's going to happen to them, you know what
I mean. It's almost I don't know, it was just weird.
It's like telling her to stay quiet and not say anything.
You know.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
He came off very guilty in that phone call. And
I don't know if he was.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Actually trying to protect her because she's shot, or if
he was trying to save his ass, right, But it's
just so messy because they were all drunk, you know,
I don't think Oh.
Speaker 3 (31:02):
Yeah, and then no one took her DNA. The fact
that a Rock Nation label rep was there at during
Kelsey being questioned from that night's events, Like, there's a
lot of weird irregular irregularities. As the man who is
from the organization that is leading this charge for to
(31:24):
get Tori out, he said, there's a bunch of irregularities,
And I agree, because that's the thing it's been like,
it's been fucked Torri for real, Like, because at the
end of the day, I'm not gonna sympathize with a
woman shooting woman shooter right like you shot my girl
on the feet. She can't work. Fuck you, you know,
and I would do the same for you. Somebody fuck
(31:47):
them for life. I appreciate, but I get it, you know,
like at the end of the day, she was probably
walking away, she didn't know who shot her. For real,
she probably, I mean, Tory saying dance, bitch dance probably
didn't help the situation either.
Speaker 2 (31:57):
If she heard that, I would assume I would, because
what the bodyguard is saying is that Kelsey shot first,
and then Tory tried to take the gun from her,
and the gun the gun went off.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
Two more times. So that's what the bodyguard is saying.
Speaker 2 (32:12):
Because at first I saw something that he saw it,
But then now I'm seeing that he heard Kelsey tell
that say that to someone, So I'm like, okay, seeing
it and hearing it is completely different. If I heard it,
I don't, I don't know, but if you saw it.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Yeah, I need to know exactly what it was. I
need it on the record, and I need you to
not like I need something to happen because why is
Toy so locked up? Why isn't Kelsey behind bars like
like she should exactly where is she?
Speaker 2 (32:45):
I don't know if this case is going to be reopened,
I mean making these stellings attorneys shut down the claims
of new evidence.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
That's so strange. Yeah, the fact that they're not even
acknowledging it.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
I mean there is ways money. Was he paid?
Speaker 3 (33:03):
I would not doubt it. I mean, but then like
if you're paid, like you would think that a guilty
conscience wouldn't mean nothing. Maybe he wasn't paid.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Maybe he wasn't.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
Yeah, I don't know, we don't know.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
It's just really strained. How just now he's he's.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
Just coming out and saying all of this, and it's yeah,
convenient timing too, But I mean, if Tory is innocent,
free that man. Yeah, and if Kelsey shot the gun,
lock a bitch up.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
It's so crazy because in this whole thing, like Tory.
Never let's say it was Kelsey. Tory never threw her under.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
The bus, never once.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
I didn't to save himself. No, do you think he
would though, or is he no?
Speaker 3 (33:53):
I think all that he would take the heat for her. Well,
it's obviously that he's taken the heat for her so far.
And I also think too, like it makes sense why
Tory wouldn't say anything because obviously he knew he was
facing prison time and if he were to say anything anyways,
like that puts an automatic target on your head if
you're a rat.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
That's true.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
So I don't like he didn't have a choice. He
had to either just ride it out or and see
what it was. Because I mean, at the end of
the day, then he's a Then he's if he gets free,
and say like whenever this whole trial happened, he gets
free because he rated on Kelsey, then he's a rat
walk in the streets. That's a target either way. Like
you also you snitch on your woman, Like that's not
(34:36):
a good look either. So he was inna damned if
he did, damned if he didn't. Position he Yeah, I
don't know. That bodyguard needs to let us know whether
he heard it or he saw it.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I'm trying to see if I get any info on.
Speaker 3 (34:52):
That, yeah, because I think that's gonna be what's gonna
get him out. They are already calling for the government
to get him out and everything the governor I mean sorry,
but they're also claiming that the district attorney that was
in office at the time of these proceedings had an
(35:13):
agenda to push like gun laws, and that's basically why
this case, even with these irregularities, was still moved forward
and processed as it was. He was found guilty all
of that because they were essentially trying to make an
example out of him. This was essentially the silver bullet
case for whatever agenda was being pushed for the district
(35:34):
attorney's office. At least that's the gist I got from
yesterday's press conference.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
Well, the bodyguard allegedly submitted in Affidavid stating he witnessed
Harris holding a gun that night and overheard her discussing
firing it, suggesting she might.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Have been responsible for the shooting. Is what we're seeing. Hmm.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
I don't know how to feel about that, but I
don't know how to feel about either. But they said
if she would have been tested for gunpowder, if she
if the gun would have been tested for her Prince, like,
those are the things that would have driven this case
home and not sent an innocent man to jail. And
I think that there was a level of, you know,
responsibility on the Justice Department to make sure that that
(36:17):
was seen.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
Needs to do better, needs to do I wonder how
Meg feels about.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
This, That's what I don't know if she hasn't posted
anything about it. And I honestly don't blame her because
at the end of the day, like she's already gone
through so much with this.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
I know, having to reopen all of this again, She's
probably like what And that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
That's crazy too, is because like this all happened, and
you know, at the end of the day, her and
Tory were arguing, But Kelsey did have motive. Kelsey had
the motive to shoot her. I mean, Kelsey and Tory
were talking first and then he got involved with Meg
and that's why they were arguing. You know, it's so messy.
(37:02):
That's a thing.
Speaker 2 (37:04):
You would hate Megan at this point. And yeah, she
had a motive. I mean I've always said Tory Lanez
is a hot head because we like experienced him having
a moment at what a radio show that we had
with him.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
So I don't know, I don't know it both of them.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Yeah, well that's the thing. I think. It's just like
the whole situation is messy because even with like, you know,
he didn't help his case, even after everything. He was
trying to claim his innocence, but then he was still
going coming out here chopping up horses on music videos.
He was saying weird stuff, I'm live and like just
talking mad shit, and you know that doesn't help whenever
(37:48):
you're trying to prove your innocence, right, No, yeah, he's
just being He's a petty king, he is. But I
guess we'll see what comes of that too. There's so
much up in the air in hollyweird.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
That and I mean there's just the amount of stories
that have come out this week.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
I'm like, oh, it's so much information and it's overtaking
my brain.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
It is because did you see the whole d DDG and.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Yaliali my god, Well I saw that he was given
a restraining order on live.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, she was.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
They granted her the restraining order and right now she
has a temporary full custody of their kid. But it's
crazy the amount of people that are coming out to
support DDG and they're they're like, he would never, Like
if you know this man, he would never. But she's
showing pictures of bruises in her arms and a chip
tooth and pretty intense text messages that he's sending her
(38:43):
for accusing her or finding out that she was on
vacation with another dude when they're not together.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
You know, that's the thing. People, you think you know
somebody as a celebrity, as a personality, you don't really
know that person.
Speaker 2 (38:56):
But this is like his brother was on streaming like rying, uh,
these are like his homies. Yeah, you know, but still
like your homies could be your homie could be completely
different with you than he is with a significant other.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
You're right, Well, that's the thing, like you really don't
know them for real. Yeah, sometimes you know, like people
have a different side to them and not saying that
it's true. I don't know, you know the situation between them.
But if she's showing evidence like obviously that you can't
really like refute that was she just gonna do that
to herself?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
No, Like what the hell. So there's that.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
There's that there was Austin. Oh yeah, big broom, I
forgette Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Is this the YouTubers?
Speaker 3 (39:43):
Yeah, the YouTubers, the one that want on stop. But
he's so funny, Like I hate him, Sorry, I hate
him because he's such a villain, but like he's so funny.
Speaker 1 (39:53):
I don't know who this is though, you don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Who it is. So it's like the Ace family.
Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yes, yes, okay, so I've always known of the name
the family, but I never watched.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
I've never really watched either. Anything I've seen is like
against my will type of thing, you know.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah, but like, like all the evidence is coming out
that he cheated on his girl, like the entire time or.
Speaker 3 (40:12):
Something like that. Basically, I mean she like did like
a little expos in her book that she wrote. I
mean they were together and allegedly like he cheated on her,
but she was also going through things I guess in
her he basically, in response to her book, he went
on a Snapchat story and was exposing her and said
(40:33):
that she was basically doing ayahuasca once a week.
Speaker 1 (40:37):
Oh sounds fun.
Speaker 3 (40:38):
Yeah, Well, and she's going on these spiritual journeys. She's
bringing in people to like their house where their kids
would stay, to do these trips, and she would just
get high out of her mind. And then she was
she revealed that like she was a mermaid in her
past life and weird. She's weird and like she got
super into like you know, spirituality and stuff. And then
(40:59):
I don't know, she just she took a different route.
And I think his perception of her change, and you know,
people change, so I think if he said at one
point too, yeah, he said at one point too, like
she was like, you know what, if you're you're gonna
do what you're gonna do, just don't make a fool
out of me, you know. So it's like it's like
he cheated on her. But then she also kind of
(41:20):
like allowed it and like still stick around for it
and you and it was like, right, I just decided
to look the other way. So it's like, I don't know.
Each party is kind of just like has their own story.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
So they portrayed to be like this perfect family and yea,
now we're hearing all this right. You know, Baby's always
said the people that overly post about how happy they
are in their relationship are usually the ones that have
the most issues, and I feel like when they do that,
they're trying to convince themselves that their life, that the
relationship is great.
Speaker 3 (41:49):
That's Steve, I know.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
And you know what, his theory is not far off
because we have witnessed a couple of people from our past,
like high school, that got married and then posted like
they were the greatest thing in the world and end
up getting a divorce and he will Sandy screech.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
I was like, they're divorced, Like.
Speaker 2 (42:11):
What the hell, you're crazy. Yeah, he's in everybody's business
like that. She's muscles. It is what it is.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Yeah, he's one of us.
Speaker 1 (42:19):
Yeah, yes, yes, he knows more than I do, which
is fun.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
Him filling you in is like the best, it's the best.
But I do come home from work and he's like
any juice. I'm like, Hello, how's your day at work?
Speaker 3 (42:29):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
So funny.
Speaker 3 (42:33):
Oh yeah, so that's like the tea with that, I'm
trying to think, is there there's a lot.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
There's a lot more so I have my show prep
stuff right here.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
Oh remember the whole Astra World Festival tragedy.
Speaker 3 (42:48):
Oh yeah, they're making a document, making a.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
Documentary on Netflix about that. What else?
Speaker 3 (42:58):
Oh, I submitted for my claim with my Apple lawsuit.
If you didn't know, there's an Apple lawsuit and you
could be compensated for your Apple devices Becauseiri was listening
in on you the whole.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
Time on those private covers.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
She heard you having sex and everything.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Yeah, oh dang, you didn't think.
Speaker 3 (43:15):
About that one, did you? Really?
Speaker 2 (43:17):
If you're talking a whole lot of shit too, get
your money.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
Yeah, I mean that's pretty much it.
Speaker 3 (43:25):
That's pretty much it. I mean, man, I mean there's
so much And you know, next weekend's my birthday. Yeah,
nice season coming up upon us.
Speaker 1 (43:38):
But you doing my birthday?
Speaker 3 (43:39):
Well, birthday celebration starts this weekend. Actually we're I'm going
to brunch this weekend and then we're celebrating Jazzon's birthday
at the Global Ambassador and then following that my birthday,
I'm going to Disney. Yeah, we're gonna do a little
seventieth celebration. And I can't wait to be happy. That's
(44:02):
the whole thing. They say, come find you're happy. I'm like,
I'm there.
Speaker 1 (44:06):
I'm happy.
Speaker 3 (44:06):
I'm there, right, And it'll be so much fun. We're
taking like a little road trip there and then I'll
come back and then you're a pool party.
Speaker 1 (44:15):
So it's just like another birthday celebration.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (44:18):
Yeah, we're gonna end your birthday month off with a banger.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
No, literally on the.
Speaker 1 (44:22):
Last day, literally the last day.
Speaker 3 (44:24):
Yeah, and God said, let there be a banger.
Speaker 1 (44:28):
I'm scared.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
I'm so excited.
Speaker 1 (44:30):
I can't wait.
Speaker 3 (44:32):
I just don't know what I'm gonna aware. But it's fine.
This girl decided to have a theme, y'all.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Yeah, and nobody knows about it, but you like, I
still haven't told all my other girl.
Speaker 3 (44:41):
You need to let it, let it be know.
Speaker 2 (44:43):
And I just needed to get paid today, so I
can't say by decorations and then officially say we have
a theme. Right, we'll talk more about that next week.
It's already forty five minutes in, and we grew a
lot at you. If you wanted to know what Holly
Weird was up.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
To, right, don't be weird, don't be like Holly Weird.
Yeah no, but we're here to fill you in whenever
it is weird. Notice you, when you step into Hollyweird,
you get weird. Yeah, you just get weird. You just
get weird. To stay away, don't do it. Bye,
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