In episode 16, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Billy Wayne Davis to discuss Trump drug abuse speech, the Sackler Family & Oxycontin, Stranger Things & the Montauk conspiracy, tabloids, George H.W. Bush & the Harvey effect, & more.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four episode one
of the Daily's Like Guys for October two thousand seventeen,
Season four premiere. My name is Jack O'Brian, a K.
Potatoes O'Brien, and I am joined by my co host,
Mr Miles Gray Sea wingstop. Know that I'm ordering only
(00:21):
all flats. That's it. That's all I have to know
about me, and we are thrilled to be joined in
our third seat by one of the funniest stand up
comedians working. Uh, just one of my favorite guests from
my tenure at the Cracked Podcast, Mr Billy Wayne Davis. Hey,
so we can talk about your pack. Yeah, yeah, is
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dark Dark bet Halloween tomorrow? Right tomorrow? You guys, what
are you? What are you going? As Anna super producer
Anna Hoseny, I came to work today in a brown
velvet shirt, a brown cowboy hat like Carmen san Diego hat,
and announced as she walked in the room, I'm Blade Runner,
(01:02):
you guys, and uh, after a while, revealed she's never
seen Blade Runner, but yeah, which is important. Yeah, it's
a good bit though, like I'm fond of it. But
then she went around to uh, the other offices in
the building that have candy outside of their doors and
just like took handfuls of it because she is quote
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in a costume. Uh and and there's a lot of fun. Uh,
well happen. What are you going? Nothing's gonna be a dad? Yeah?
Just oh yeah, yeah, I was. I was actually thinking
about that's not true that kid fuck. Uh yeah, I
think I'm gonna be Luigi. He's dressing up as Mario,
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so I'm gonna be Luigi. He's setting up a power
dynamic too. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, he knows tell me his boss. Uh, billy,
what's something that you've searched online on your phone in
the last the last couple of days that is revealing
about who you are as a human being? Oh? I
know what I looked up. I looked up this white
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supremacist reviewed performance of mine and Stergil Simpsons and Spokane, Washington,
and I looked that up because it's I'm like, very
proud of it. Was fond of your word? Oh no,
he was not. It was my favorite sentence was a
barrage of anti whiteness and blasphemy. And I was like, well,
(02:27):
he got what I was doing. A brage I didn't
come for this. Yeah, well it made him re evaluate
his love of Stergil Simpsons. So let me realized he
was wrong because he was because Sturgil was associated with me.
So do you think he went there thinking like, I'm
I'm I'm around my people. Oh hell yeah, and then
he just had one of those awakenings. He's like, oh yeah,
my my girlfriend describes it great. She's a little Jewish girl.
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She was like, can you imagine though, Like as a
white supremacist you walk out with blonde hair and blue
eye and then you and your name and like he
even says in the article, he's like he's like his accent,
everything's like this guy. Yeah, like and then you start
saying the things you said. I was like, yeah, it's
like Neil Brennan's head exploding. And the Chappelle shows get um,
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do you get that a lot? Do people just assume
you're racist? Because yeah, the comic in Chattanoogo has a
great joke. He's like he's like they just people just
tell you those jokes, the racist joke. Yeah, all over
the country like uber drivers or stuff, like they hear
you're acting. You don't hear a joke? I do Jesus Christ,
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what do wait, what do you start? Like, if you
don't mind revealing, what's what do you think is? Like,
what are the jokes that you come out with that
the immediately signals to the white supremacist Like I thought,
Billy Wayne, was I got the wrong idea about that?
I got the wrong Billy Wayne. I think, just how
openly okay with homosexuals I am bothers in them? And
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then I called out in the Northwest, it's it's still
pretty segregated. That's what I noticed when I moved up there,
Like how like like that. I have a whole bit
on my first album about how they brag about the
Northwest like it's a utopia progressive liberality, and then you
get up there and you're like, Yo, where's the black
people they live on the West And then they're like, oh, yeah,
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they that's Tacoma. We put them all into coma, right,
And I was like, you guys can't do that anyway,
that's not okay, So like yeah, and so I did
at that joke, and I think that opened his eyes
and then I just really dive into how silly a
lot of religion is right, And that guy was like
religion besides the one true religion, right, Christianity. Yeah, no, yeah,
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he didn't have a problem, blind hair, blue eyed Jesus
me making fun of most religions. Specific Um, what's one
thing you believe to be overrated? And yeah, let's start
with pop music in generals. Pop like who who are
we talking? Who are you having your cross hairs right now?
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I mean all of it? Yeah, Like most popular music
is not good. It's all the same song. Yeah, And
we're having a we're having kind of a a moment
where pop music is like embraced by everyone. I guess
it's been like a while that like call Me Maybe
was universally acclaimed as sort of a a great song
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by even hipsters. And wait, really yeah call Me Maybe?
I always yeah, no people, you mean you think people
liked it just because it was so on the nose
it like like it was a perfect pop confection. God
damn it. I just think it's torture me. Yeah, that's what.
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That's what it is. It's familiar and if your mindless,
it's perfect exactly. What's something that's underrated? I still think
that the movie Fargo is underrated. Fargo so good deal
underrated and I know it's acclaimed, but that's right. That's
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the point I'm making, is it it's not discussed enough
when they bring up some of the great films. Yeah, yeah,
the show I haven't. I've watched a couple episodes of
this the first season. It's like one of those things
where I was like, immediately it was like, I don't
have time the time to give this show on the
time it deserves. Yes, that being said, it reminds me
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of another thing I think is owner and rated in
the same vein as Extract, which is my judge last
movie I haven't that with Jason Babin. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I haven't seen it, but I always pops up with
like in any kind of algorithms, like you should watch
this movie and if that one's nailed you because I'm
writing down on my hand. And even to this underrated theme,
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David Keckner's in it, who I think is grossly underrated
as an actor. He's so funny. Um, he plays a
character in an extract that is just it's that testament
that somebody it's so good at acting that you're mad
at him for a while, where just like I don't
like that guy at all because yeah, you sit and
think about it for an hour after the movie, right now,
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that was He's goddamn genius. Alright, So let's get into
the stories that we're keeping an eye on, uh real quick.
The Daily Zygis were trying to take a sample of
the ideas that are out there in the firmament, change
in the world, whether we're looking or not. Talk about politics,
the president, news, but we also talk about movies, uh
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and supermarket tabloids, which today is Supermarket Tabloid Day, So
we will get to uh some of those because yeah, people,
millions and millions of people past those every day, and
you know, those headlines creep into their mind where whether
they want them to or not. Uh. But first up,
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we want to talk about drugs, uh, specifically the legal
heroin it uh has been going around in the past
couple of decades. So Trump finally declared a health emergency,
uh kind of sort of not the real one that
would actually get funding, not a national emergency. Yeah, his
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press conference was pretty infuriating. He claims. At one point
he was like, you know, I have friends who are
can't stop drinking, and I'm like, I don't understand it.
And then Immediately after that goes into by the way,
killer Trump impression. Immediately after that goes into, uh that
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the solution is just to tell them as kids not
to drink and not to do drugs. Do it. Yeah,
that'll erase any trauma that you have that sometimes motivates people.
So basically he and oh, oh, just not do it,
don't do it, just don't yeah. Uh he and I
think at one point he was like, I came up
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with this brilliant idea. It's uh so he like reinvented Dare,
which is a program for our younger listeners. Dare is
something that we were subjected to in the eighties and
nineties where a police officer would come into school and
tell you about drugs and why you shouldn't do them. Uh.
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And studies have since discovered that it actually made kids
more likely to use drugs than not. For sure, that
happened to me. Uh, just like who went to DARE
use drugs more than kids who didn't go to DARE.
It educated them about drugs exactly exactly. It was the
first place I ever smelled weed. He was like, smell that.
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That's gonna be the worst smell you've ever smelled smelled pipe.
I was like, well that actually smell Yeah, um, why
do I feelso relax? It's also kind of the first
time I was like, I was like, yo, these cops
are sucking whack. Like the DARE officer that we had,
he was the late like, he was not a cool
looking cop. He looked like just a food who had
(10:00):
like fucked up. And they're like, all right, Chuck, you're
on DARE duty, right and just phone it in it
in this classroom. And he was like, yeah, this is
mushro I don't know, and it's like it was not fun,
and we're just like, Okay, the cops are wacko. If
you eat these you'll really think while you're a cop. Yeah.
I had the one story about how PCP like he
saw a guy like throw a dumpster at a cop car.
(10:22):
I heard that too. I think, I guess that's maybe
in the handbook. Yeah exactly, it's not even true. But
then I was like, Yo, PCP sounds fucking dope. PCP.
They told us all that PCP turns you into like
a super superhero. Yeah, you could, Like he was like,
I've seen somebody on PCP who was like shot eight
times and kept coming right like just like brushed it off.
I was like, wow, your soldiers right, the Nazis tried that. Yeah.
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I go on YouTube live leak all the time. I'm
trying to find that PCP video that actually shows someone
you know that's dusted on PCP throwing. You'll never find it.
Or I've heard the dude rips his own arms off
on pp I've heard that one bunch like that. For
a while. I was like, that's what PCF does. You
don't rip your own arm off, which actually sounds kind
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of awesome. Yeah, you see one armed ship? Did I
rip it off again? And also just in terms of
Dare's not gone there Dare. I was going out of
the Whole Foods in Silver like the other day and
there are two people doing that thing where they're sit
sit outside of the supermarket, but it was Dare Pete
and the ladies like, are you familiar with Dare? I
was like yeah, and I just can't walk. Wow, they're back,
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They're back, baby um. And also just in terms of
a like lending one's celebrity clout to a cause, like
Trump being like, you know, we just need to tell
them drugs aren't cool. Is like, Okay, you are going
to kill the next generation. Everyone is going to die
of drug overdoses. If you like, just go out and
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lend your celebrity to the anti drug cause. Um. But
you know, and I think people are aware that drugs
have become a problem. But you know, now opioids have
killed more people than Vietnam, which was not a great
war that didn't go well. And now opioids have have
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killed more people than that. Um. And Americans are now like,
for the first time in hundreds of years, Americans life
expectancy went down. They're saying, it's like this Nobel Prize
winner Angus Dton thinks that it's because of an epidemic
of suicide, alcohol abuse, and drug overdoses, specifically among middle
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aged white people. And uh So. The New York Times
podcast The Daily actually did an episode on the opioid
crisis last week, and they focused specifically on this one
town in Kentucky, uh that I used to live right
next to for some reason, like all like the three
towns that I heard called out as like among the
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worst places for opioid abuse are all places I lived
growing up. It's like Wheeling, West Virginia. Uh. Miami Valley. Uh,
in like southern Ohio, like around the Dayton area and
now outside Alexing in Kentucky. But so they they interviewed
this kid who just tells the story of when you
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know he's growing up, he his town is like a
normal town, you know. Uh, and then the opioids hit
his town. And by the end of it, like every
one of his friends parents were dealing opioids, and like
he was dealing opioids. His mom was dealing opioids. He
was making fifteen hundred dollars a day, but then he
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was also using opioids. So, uh, you know that that
wasn't working. Someone go through that money pretty quick. Yeah. Yeah,
it's not a good Uh, it's not a good system. Right.
But um yeah, we actually have I think a quote
or I think we have a section of that episode
that we're going to play for you real quick. Everybody
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everybody either a we're doing and telling us to coether
on themselves or be they knew someone who did. Um,
this is parents of of my friends. If not, they're
their brothers, their older brothers and their their sisters. Yeah,
everyone did this, even even people who didn't do drugs. Eventually,
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did this because it was so profitable. How do you
make sense of people's parents doing this. Did you grow
up in a community with a lot of friends whose
parents needed money? Yes? Yeah, I mean this is like,
this is the recession, this is two thousand and eight,
two was nine ten eleven. And what about your parents?
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My mother eventually jumped on that train, but my father
has never touched drugs in his entire life. And which
train did your mom jump on? Uh? The distribution of narcotics.
She had a lot of things to pay for, and
my grandmother was in poor health, and there was a
lot of you know, financial strife there, so she did
what she thought was a rational idea. Yeah, so that's crazy,
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like his grandmother being in poor health, meaning like medical
costs being so high, that's even feeding the need for
some much so like there's such a snake eating its
own tail in so many ways with this ship, it's
it's terrifying. It's well and then lucky. I think that's important.
What he said too, was like she thought she made
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a rational decision and looking at it, like I mean
from a finance you just look around and you're like, well,
this seems to be literally the only way to make
any money here. This is the only way to make
any money. Yeah. I mean when you think about like,
these are all rational human beings making decisions, it's not
because they don't know the dangers of drug use. They
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know the dangers of drug use. They're weighing that risk
into their decision making process and still coming out the
other end thinking that, yeah, using drugs or dealing drugs
is the better way to go because I don't want
my mother to die or you know, I have to
feed my kids. Um, So I don't think a commercial
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telling that person don't do that, right, come on, they're
gonna be like, oh, oh okay. Um. It was like
in college, I played baseball for a couple of years
and steroids. I realized, like steroids weren't cheating then, it
was the way, but I like I had. I mean
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a lot of people on our team were on them
and I couldn't compete with that. And I remember I
call my dad, who's a high school football quesch I
was like, Yo, what the fun what is this? And
he was like, don't do it. It's not he just
knew enough about the side effects. He's like, it's not
gonna be worth it right, right right, and he was right, like,
I'm so glad I didn't do that. I mean, granted
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I drank a ton in my twenties, which is like
argue just the same, but it was like, it's not
the same, Like my body is still fine, and like
your head didn't grow like nine hats all that ship
and then most of them didn't make it right exactly.
Even in my high school. I'm like, football players were
working around with you know, steroids and ship like that,
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and I don't know a single one of them that
that's playing in the league now either. And it's just
crazy because that it's it's sort of normalized, like you're saying,
it's the way. It's like, well, this is kind of
what people are doing. They compete when they're done using steroids,
and their head shrinks back down to normal size. Like
do they have just like a like thing of skin
that they like tie on the back of their head.
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That's not their head, Okay, that's not steroids. That's something
called human growth hormone, which is a second puberty. That's
what Barry Bonds did. That's why if you look at
him when he came into the league and when he
left it was like he's a different human being, right,
that's what human growth hormans. That's what like a slice
to stallone does. That's why he's like seventy something looks
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like he's fifty two. Um, that's the second Peter. That's
something they found in your body that it produces. It's
very dangerous. But steroids, what happened. I knew a guy
who had titties, not like like man boobs, Like he
didn't take estrogen blocker's with the type of steroids he
was taken, so he developed straight up breasts tits like
(18:22):
I mean, and we were ruthless about it. I mean,
he got what he deserved. Really, yeah, gain okay, maasty
is not fun for anyone. Damn the fact that you
know that word, yoh man, because because sometimes you know,
you start getting your thirties, look at your own body
and I'm like, damn, am I getting titties? And then
you look up on the internet You're like, that's what
it's called. So there's also been a couple We're going
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to touch on this real quick, and we could probably
do a whole episode on this family, the Sackler family,
who is the family that has owned Perdue Pharma. Who
are the makers of oxycon for uh the past. I
don't know, however many number of decades, uh they So
(19:08):
Arthur Sackler, Uh is sort of uh great name. Three
Arthur Sackler. So this dude, Arthur Sackler was there are
all three of these brothers are doctors. Arthur Sackler was
like on the side, because doctors didn't make that much
money back in their in their early twentieth century, went
and started doing ad copyrighting just because he was like, oh,
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that seems easy enough, and so he was so good
at it that he eventually was able to buy the
entire ad firm. This guy seems like he's like sort
of the genius of the family, and he basically invented
modern pharmaceutical advertising and marketing in the sense that he
started making ads that are directed at doctors who would
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then prescribe the drugs, and that was sort of his
contribution to medicine, which a lot of people now look
back on in are like that is it was a
Pandora's box. That's really bad. I have a question. Yeah,
I'm sorry, raise my hand. What made him realize, oh,
I should advertise to the doctors, Like, was there something
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where it was like he realized, like, oh, if we
keep telling them about this one drug, they like there
had to be like a Eureka moment or well because
he was a doctor and the doctor and an advertiser
and so like, by bringing those two industries into one mind,
he was able to just be like, oh, well this
is easy. You just like I know people, yeah, yeah, exactly,
(20:40):
all right, and I'm sure other times you should be
like ask your doctor about this, and now you can
eliminate that and just be like tell your patients about
this exactly. So the first time that he was able
to use this strategy was with valium, and valium basically
had the same effect as another anti anxiety that was
in the market, but his idea was to pretend like
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valium could be used for any sort of I think
he called it mental tension. So he was like one
of his ads was a girl like with a backpack
and it was like going away to college for the
first time, like that has some anxiety. Use valium like
or prescribe value ship. So like he was just like, yes,
spread it out like say it's for anything gets sleepy,
(21:29):
right exactly, mad that you lost that game of Madden, right,
so he had a huge success with that. Uh, and
his family eventually would do the exact same thing with oxycontent,
which uh, I guess content is for continuation or continual
(21:49):
because it's supposed to be like time released. Yeah, and
doxy is basically, uh the same. It's like the active
ingredient in um per cassette and one of the other painkillers,
but those ones are like mixed with things that tamped
them down, and oxy is just like the pure, uncut
form of of that. And they were just like, all right,
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we're gonna create a thing that can last for twelve hours.
That is this like thing that is stronger than morphine. Uh. People,
for whatever reason there they were confusing it with another
ingredient and thought it was actually weaker than morphine. And
he knew that or they knew that, and so they
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focused on that, and We're like, this is actually less
addictive than morphine. It's like a less addictive alternative. They
like focused on people's misconceptions to like help blow up oxycontent,
and oxycont was the strongest drug that has ever been
on the market or like will ever be on the market,
and people were getting addict yeah, I know, I'm underestimating
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them motivating the next great pharmaceuticals bread. So anyways, this
this family has sort of stayed off the radar for
the most part because Purdue Pharma is a private company. Uh.
Forbes actually just found out about them and was like, oh,
you're one of the richest families in America. High like,
welcome to the Forbes Richest Families list, and they were
(23:19):
like shit, exactly. Uh. They do a bunch of philanthropy
and you know, donate to like their entire wings of
museums that are named after them, But they do not
do any philanthropy in the area of drug abuse rehabilitation.
Why not? I don't know, man, They just they like
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to feed those They feel like they're doing enough work
feeding them. With the patient population, we've created an industry exactly. Um.
So yeah, that's what we'll dig into the Sacklers a
little bit more. We It's also interesting to think about
the double standard between how opioid how the opioid crisis
is being treated, and how the crack epidemic was treated
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in the eighties, because opioids are primarily a you know,
white disease, and crack was primarily seen as like a
a black and urban disease. And like you heard in
Michael Barbarrow's question, uh that he was like, how could
(24:27):
parents be dealing this? And it's just like they're drug dealers, man,
Like right, It's just I think his confusion stemmed from
the fact that he couldn't picture white parents like dealing drugs.
But uh, we will dig go to high school in
the South, all right, we'll dig into that in a
(24:48):
future episode. But we're gonna take a quick break and
when we come back, we're gonna talk about the conspiracy
theory that Stranger Things is based on. My buddy used
to have this joke where it was like he talked
about going to Dennis and they gave him he's a
(25:08):
kind damn it. Now I gotta go to prescription, Philip
prescription and mom my way home. I look, it's like,
don't used with alcohol. He's like, some of a bitch.
Now I have to go get beer. Well done, That
is a great joke. It's not a bitch. And we're back.
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So Stranger Things debuted at the end of last week. Um,
I have yet to see it. Uh, I gotta open
up my whole schedule. If I'm gonna do that. I know.
It's it's a lot. Uh, It's like me and Fargo.
The first season was one of those that took over
my life. Like I just was like on a business
(25:50):
trip and watched the first episode and then like that
whole trip, I was just like binging staying up at
night like watching it. So yeah, I I need to
clear my schedule, uh and stop hosting this podcast. Before
I watched the second season. Um, but so apparently our
writer J M McNabb told us a story about where
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Stranger Things came from. So apparently the original title for
Stranger Things was Montak and it's because it is based
on I think I assumed it was based on just
the collected works of everyone who had a beard in
the eighties and was named Stephen. But apparently it's also
based on a real conspiracy theory. But it's not one
(26:36):
of my conspiracy theories. So you don't you don't need
to miss the undermining music they play at any time
I mentioned one of my conspiracy theories too, to undermine me, Billy,
it's it's not fair. Well, um, but so you power structure,
you were aware of the of this. Uh yeah, that's
where the Philadelphia experiment and all that they were trying
(26:58):
to do inter dimensional travel. Okay, I don't know any
of this ship My favorite one is the one you have.
The last one you have references a hairy monster physically
birth from someone's consciousness. Yeah, that's come on, So that's
what I want. What is going what is this man?
What was going on? So the theory is that and
a lot of this comes from recovered uh memories from
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somebody who claims that these experiments were done on him,
but allegedly I think it was in three A lot
of Nazi scientists and the scientists who worked on the
Manhattan Project were like basically doing experiments on children in
this uh in Montalk is the name of the town,
(27:42):
I guess, um, And like some of the theories are
that there was this thing called the Montalk Chair that
used electro magnets to amplify psychic powers. Um, so they
were like identifying kids with in according to this conspiracy theory,
they found like gifted children or whatever. They're trying to
(28:04):
give them gifts, right, so they were almost experienced, like
can you can you upgrade somebody's brain? You start doing
some psychic ship o Yeah, they were experimenting on abducted children.
According to the theory. Uh, they were opening warmholes to
other times. Uh and yeah, like Billy Wayne said, a
hairy monster that was physically birthed from someone's consciousness. Um.
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Another Another aspect of this conspiracy theory is that one
person claimed they were involved in time travel experiments amount
at Montauk that successfully altered the outcome of the Civil War.
So this person that he made sure the Union one. Yeah,
and we can thank him for time. Otherwise we lived
in an existence that will be uh dramatize in an
(28:52):
upcoming HBO series called They Are Yeah I believe, so
just sticking good idea. I don't know all the black
people say it's not uh, but we did. Uh we
(29:12):
got insecure, but they'll be on board. Isn't made good? Yeah,
so who knows, we may get a season where the
kids from Stranger Things are like bayonetting Confederate troops. But
but this conspiracy there is based off of the scattered
memories of a few people that claim they were Also
one guy who is like who says he was like
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the original eleven. Well, there are a couple of sources.
Now that's what I'm because the Philadelphia Experiment has that's
there's papers about that and like government papers where they
were trying to make a chip disappear. And then there's
like a there's weird people that come back and have said, hey,
I was I was in that and I came back
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and out like half of me was in a wall
or something like that. I mean the Philidia. If you've
never read about the Philadelphia Experiment, it's fascinating. It is
like really next level ship. Like there's some stuff at
Area fifty one. Is that where it is Studio fifty four,
a lot of cocaine and now where they think that
(30:18):
Nazi scientists might have been responsible for UFOs, might have
like figured out how to do like non jet propelled
uh flight. And also they think that some some of
the sightings of like little gray men might have been
the result of Nazi experiments on humans and that this
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is all part of this book called Area fifty one
by a l a Times journalist who I think since
this book came out has been like everyone's like, oh,
you're not a journalist anymore, but it's there. There's some
really crazy theories in there. Um. But yeah, this this
apparently belongs to that whole. There's the tread of truth
(31:01):
to it, and then uh, a bunch of stuff that
seems like it's probably been elaborated by imaginative people. Here's
nothing about area if you want is uh. I do
think there's some weird ship going on out there, but
I think and I my theory is we've found some
alien ship. That's why we have like the stealth bomber
and ship like that, and other countries don't because if
(31:22):
you look at any other technology besides that, all the
countries you end up they end up stealing it or
figuring or reverse engineering it. And with the stealth stuff
they can't figure The other countries can't figure that ship out. No,
they don't have those best. Yeah. Now you're saying it's
because we're fun with alien technology, Well we are the
(31:44):
best because we happened to like they crashed in our
in our country, thank god. But it's kind of stuff
that's my working right about where that kind of stuff,
because there's certain technology just question wise, we're like, we're
in the fuck did that come from human wise? Earthwise?
(32:04):
Just such a leap and then there's no thing they
can't explain it. And when and when you look like, oh,
like with jet engines and stuff like that, you just
find when you reverse engineer ed out stealth technology. They
haven't done that exclusive shit the US exclucy so, but
they think the grazier in Ohio, that's where they keep
the bodies in the Air Force based like saying stuff
(32:29):
like that. Very yeah, yeah, that's right, right, state Air
Force base and date in Ohio. That would that would
make sense. Then maybe that's why they all need to
use so many drugs, because just get rid of that
reality that they're having to repress. Okay, here we go,
got some got some next level ship going on. Um,
all right, let's let's move on to bloyd watch. The
(32:53):
theory behind bloyd watches. These are headlines that are hitting
more people's eyeballs than maybe any headlines uh in Media
and the National enquir The Globe, the National Examiner are
all published by the same guy, a guy named uh
no joke, David Pecker and uh you gotta own it.
(33:13):
He also he also has US Weekly, Um, basically all
the tabloids one dude, and he is uh Donald Trump's
like boy. They're like homies and a ship head fraternity, right, exactly.
Oh yeah, well it's crazy me too, because they're they're
(33:34):
like stories of the New Yorker did a peace talking
about sort of Pecker's his company, and just how even
when they would do like initially pitch meetings around Trump,
how he would like gloss over um any any kind
of story that would paint Trump Trump negatively. So like
one day when they're that video came out of Trump
or Milania batting Donald's hand away, a lot of the
(33:56):
people were like, hey, should we talk about this, and
he's like, he just said, I haven't I haven't seen this,
I don't know what you're talking about, and sort of
did that twice and basically, you know, he's he's it's
clear that if you look at any headlines, they're definitely
all pro Trump. Like in the build up to the election,
there were things like you know, how Donald is gonna
win the debate, or then the other ones are like
crazy Hillary is about to die, you know. So it's
(34:18):
it's it's very clear how they're um. You know, their relationship,
they are, they're very good friends, right, and you can
see it in in the headlines. Just this week, so
share one of the most outspoken Donald Trump critics on Twitter.
Uh is according to the National Examiner, Uh, they have
the cover with the headline share seventy one colin let
(34:42):
me die, and then the caption sick, loveless, frail and
flat broke loveless. Yeah, that was tough. That was the meanest.
That's that's cutting. It's mean, and most of the stuff
is based on nothing. Uh. It's actually amazing because all
that they always have these like quotes from anonymous inside sources,
(35:05):
but they always speak in the exact same voice as
the rest of the article, Like they like have this
like caddy bitchy, like puns and stuff like share can't
believe that, you know, like how far she's fallen. It's
just basically it's like they just put quotes around parts
of the article and then just make that a quote,
make that a quote from inside sources. Um, what what else?
(35:28):
Are what else are Americans across the country learning right now?
Kathie Lee, the real Kathie Lee, has exposed she is mean.
According to Very Mean. That feels right though, that one
feels like, yeah, that one checks out. And Um, the
Clintons covered up Weinstein's sex scandal, according to the Globe,
(35:51):
But then you go to the actual article and it's
just all speculation. It's everything that we already know that. Uh.
You know he can train you did to some of
their campaigns. Uh. And then so they have a quote
from an insider. This is a good example of one
of their insiders who speaks exactly like them. Quote Weinstein's
disgusting sexual antics were an open secret in Hollywood, and
(36:14):
who knows Obama and Hillary may have heard the rumors
but ignored them to keep the money river flowing. If
Obama did hear the talk, then shame shame on him
for letting his daughter work for the slimeball. Uh. That's
supposedly a quote from an inside I want to hear
that tape or conversation, right. Um. But yeah, so all
(36:35):
they have is uh is uh a quote inside source
saying that they may have heard rumors. Uh. So that's
that's all that they got. But according to the headlines
that half of America is going to see, they have
way more than that. They also hate Megan Kelly. Uh.
They on the Inquirers front page they have mean girl.
(36:58):
Megan's sister tells all racist bully phony. Uh. This one
says new humiliation for Megan yeah, they come at her
from h all angles. Why are they coming from Megan Kelly?
She jumped ship. She jumped ship just because O'Reilly. Oh
so you're saying this is this is O'Reilly payback on
(37:20):
her Trump, right. I think she was just well, I mean,
she had her sat with Trump, didn't get on board
the way they wanted her to. With Trump, though, I
think she was still like I know which side I'm on,
but like, could we at least be like act like
having here, like we're a little bit right, And then
(37:41):
they were just like do your job, and she's like,
all right, Well, what's funny too, is they use like
a piece John Oliver did in that article to be like,
look at all this crazy ship. She said, it's like
what you're you're even using like what to them is
like liberal media punditry to like then paint your picture
to smear Megan Kelly. Well, it's like Trump's think someone
said that was like it's fake news if it's negative,
(38:05):
and it's it's real if it's positive, right, if it benefits,
and it doesn't matter where it's coming from, right, And
he's very blatant with that. That's I have to believe
that people are people know that, like people recognize that
at this point, right that when he says fake news,
it just means it's news, that is What do you
(38:25):
mean people just even even his his base, You don't
you think they literally believe that. Every one of the
things that The New York Times writes about him is
I mean, there are people stabbing their parents because they
think they're quote leftists. People are operating in this quasi reality.
(38:46):
I mean, did you hear about that guy's dad though?
I mean he was he was kind of a cuck.
I mean, Jesus, all right, we're gonna go to a
quick break and when we come back a few last things,
including the widening Harvey effect. And we're back and we're
(39:15):
kind of running short on time, so we're gonna spike
one of our stories we had we wanted to talk about, uh,
this huge news story that is outraging. Uh. Like literally
everyone including The New York like Maggie Haberman came out
and was like, I could not believe that the Clinton
campaign helped pay for the dossier. I don't understand that.
(39:37):
That seems like faux outrage to me, because, like, if
you're a political journalist, a career political journalist. You you
understand what they do in those campaigns. You know what
oppo is, what opposition research? And also the dossier began
with a Republican doing oppo research Ron Trump, so before
he got the nomination. Um. But we're not We're like
(39:59):
the stories just going to the story is just gonna
keep going because it seems like every time the probe,
the Muller probe kind of starts heating up. We we
get this machine. Yeah, it seems like a very ripe
one for them to be like, oh, Muller is focusing
on that, Why aren't they focusing on this? The uranium deal?
(40:20):
If it keeps going, we're gonna get to see the alien. Yeah, right,
the papers coming out aliens, I mean yeah, maybe we
will find out the origin is gonna be yeah yeah,
soon enough. See if they can figure out the opioid
addiction problem, that's the alien, right, that's what they say
from it from alien. We gave that, we gave heroin,
do you guys that was strictly for musicians? Okay, and
(40:43):
you guys keep using it. If that's only for very
talented musicians, you give them heroin? Uh So We're gonna
move on to the Harvey effect, which George H. W
Bush is the last uh victim. I think I think
we should call him a victim now, the last perpetrator
who uh women now feel empowered enough to be like, oh, yeah,
(41:06):
this guy sexually assaults people. Uh. I guess George h.
W Is is now you know, wheelchair bound and suffering
from dementia. But you know, so it's unclear. It's not
a clear cut thing, but I do just supposedly, Uh.
The way he was doing this wash he would get
(41:31):
in a photo with attractive women and before the person
took the picture, asked, do you want to know who
my favorite magician is? And they would say what what
the funk are you talking about talking to? And then
he would say David Kappa feel and grab their ass
(41:53):
uh and or packed sometimes you would pat him or
pat pat their rear. Is how he thought of it.
Um and warn me when the offensive parts come in
and then um they apparently that So the woman who
uh actually finally came out and was like, Yo, this
(42:15):
dude just did this to me and it's not okay. Uh.
She said that Barbara bush At in the moment was
there so h W's wife was there and she was
like rolling her eyes, like, oh, ship, this ship again.
And then his secret service was like, well, you shouldn't
have gone near him if you didn't want to get
your and then o then two other actresses came out
(42:40):
were like, he did the same thing to me with
the same joke, which it is a good joke. I mean,
you gotta work it out like that, you gotta use it. Yeah.
I have a theory that like famous people live in
a time capsule of whatever the year that they were
at their peak of famousness was is that's when they
(43:01):
inherit all their yes men, and so that's all the assumptions,
like they stop existing in reality at that point in time,
and that's real. He left the office in ninety two,
which was probably right around David Copperfields like peak, right
like maybe a few years after. I mean, yeah, he
in ninety two, the most famous magician would have been
(43:24):
David Copperfield had to have been or you know, like
he was probably contending with Sig Freedo roy or some ship.
But yeah, like David Copperfield was like I think one
of like the really first big sort off you know,
gotta you gotta gotta get sick freedom Like, hey, you
got people at home are like what about um? But
(43:47):
the Harvey effect does seem to be uh coming for
these perverts. Leon we sel Tier, who, as you can tell,
I was very familiar with prior to the story. He
was apparently an editor and sayst at The New Republic
and apparently like a known pervert for many years. Uh.
(44:07):
Mark Halprin, who's just the sort of human being. He's
like a famous political journalist who is the sort of
human being you would never associate with sex ever. Like
he's just like this like dry, sort of straightforward dude
who like seems like he was born to, you know,
go to his daughter's soccer game while he was at
(44:30):
ABC News and one of the heads of political coverage
at ABC News had a habit of pressing his boner
against female underlings without their consent. So and I mean,
well when you ask him, they don't let right exactly.
That's the problem is what he's supposed to do? U. Yeah,
he he looks he looks like a business hotel turned
(44:52):
into a human. He's a Hampton man with a human being, um,
which will press its boner against you. Yeah, And I
mean the that video of the young woman walking through
New York where she's being harassed, like, and I've talked
to friends of mine who are like, yeah, it can
(45:14):
be that bad. Like I was talking to somebody who
said that she keeps her windows rolled up because when
she has her windows rolled down, dudes just dry like
pull up next to her and like start you know,
saying offensive ship to her about like how they want
to have sex with her. Um, Okay, here's my theory
(45:34):
behind this. I've known dudes that do that. My theory
like anybody that has a weird that hit on women
or do that in a weird way where you're just
like you do it like that, right, Um, why it's
worked once right and then and be based off that experiment. Yes,
(45:54):
that means it could probably happen again. Yes, where it's like, yeah,
you ask a hundred women that way, ninety nanam are
going to be like I'm going to report you to
the police. It's just like a weird you know, because
all humans are sucked up, so everyone's approach is different.
But I also wonder how much of it is the
power of like that. That's that's definitely what I noticed
(46:14):
with the Weinstein thing is like he oh, without a doubt. Yeah,
it was like his ability dominate them and like make
them you know, even considerate or like I guess watch
him masturbate was like part of like what got him
going so Like I mean the fact that a dude
can just pull up next to a woman and like
(46:34):
get a charge like sexually from you know, making her uncomfortable.
Uh you know that that doesn't cost him anything. Just
I never thought of that part of the fucking suck.
Making them uncomfortable makes them, that turns them on. That's
I'm sure if if you have, if your your interactions
(46:56):
with women aren't good or like you haven't you you
you're unable to cultivate like an actual relationship with a woman.
I guess the next best thing is just like that's
your way of trolling by because you're like, well I'm
not I'm not capable of conducting myself in a way
that I'm attractive to a rational human woman. Then the
next thing is like what's stop growing? Yeah, okay, or
(47:17):
it's just repressed so so much that it comes out
in a weird way, like as I think that's not
talked about enough, Like people are taught your sexual feelings
are bad, and then you keep having them, they're gonna
come out in this weird, deviant way. Uh. The I
think the Midwest is full of very weird sexual people, um,
(47:40):
because of that, and you look at sucking Japan and
Germany samething. The porn is sucking insane. But I'm not.
I do think there's something to the power thing. I
don't understand because I I blessed enough to had a
good childhood and I'm very turned on by normal things. Um.
But like the thing that made was obvious was the
(48:01):
Bill O'Reilly thing where it's cost him so much fucking
money over the years that it's like, oh, that's not
about sex, that's pure power. That's all power with him,
just millions and millions of dollars. He's Henry keep saying
this ship to you, what the fund are you gonna
out here? Some money here? And he he has, he
(48:23):
goes to the New York Times is like, think of
my kids. It's like, dude, you think of your kids.
This keeps happening to you, This keeps happening every time
you do it. You have to pay millions of dollars
and it goes in the paper, like maybe you should
think about your kids. Um yeah, and the Internet. Uh
seems like the Internet invented trolling. But I mean guys
who don't get laid have been doing this for for
(48:46):
many many years. Well and also I mean the internet
culture is vastly dominated just like, yeah, alright, I was
gonna do it for uh this season premiere. Uh, Billy,
thank you so much time joining us. Where people follow
you and what should they look for from you? I
(49:08):
have a record out and third Man Records, um marking
on new stuff, but that's what's out right now. Uh
it's a vinyl record. You can buy it digitally on iTunes.
It's Billy Wayne Davis a lot at third Man Records.
If you google my name, all that social ship comes up.
I have Twitter, I think I have a Facebook and
uh Instagram. You said Goggle? What was Google? It's a
(49:30):
search engine? All right, it's so do you heard it here? First? Folks?
Google put Billy Wayne Davis all spelled normally into into
am not supposed to say Google? Uh no, he like
that'd be a weird person to piss off. He piste
off Google. We're sponsored by being so miles. Where can
(49:53):
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them Si
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season four episode one
of the Daily's Like Guys for October two thousand seventeen,
Season four premiere. My name is Jack O'Brian, a K.
Potatoes O'Brien, and I am joined by my co host,
Mr Miles Gray Sea wingstop. Know that I'm ordering only
(00:21):
all flats. That's it. That's all I have to know
about me, and we are thrilled to be joined in
our third seat by one of the funniest stand up
comedians working. Uh, just one of my favorite guests from
my tenure at the Cracked Podcast, Mr Billy Wayne Davis. Hey,
so we can talk about your pack. Yeah, yeah, is
(00:42):
dark Dark bet Halloween tomorrow? Right tomorrow? You guys, what
are you? What are you going? As Anna super producer
Anna Hoseny, I came to work today in a brown
velvet shirt, a brown cowboy hat like Carmen san Diego hat,
and announced as she walked in the room, I'm Blade Runner,
(01:02):
you guys, and uh, after a while, revealed she's never
seen Blade Runner, but yeah, which is important. Yeah, it's
a good bit though, like I'm fond of it. But
then she went around to uh, the other offices in
the building that have candy outside of their doors and
just like took handfuls of it because she is quote
(01:23):
in a costume. Uh and and there's a lot of fun. Uh,
well happen. What are you going? Nothing's gonna be a dad? Yeah?
Just oh yeah, yeah, I was. I was actually thinking
about that's not true that kid fuck. Uh yeah, I
think I'm gonna be Luigi. He's dressing up as Mario,
(01:44):
so I'm gonna be Luigi. He's setting up a power
dynamic too. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, he knows tell me his boss. Uh, billy,
what's something that you've searched online on your phone in
the last the last couple of days that is revealing
about who you are as a human being? Oh? I
know what I looked up. I looked up this white
(02:06):
supremacist reviewed performance of mine and Stergil Simpsons and Spokane, Washington,
and I looked that up because it's I'm like, very
proud of it. Was fond of your word? Oh no,
he was not. It was my favorite sentence was a
barrage of anti whiteness and blasphemy. And I was like, well,
(02:27):
he got what I was doing. A brage I didn't
come for this. Yeah, well it made him re evaluate
his love of Stergil Simpsons. So let me realized he
was wrong because he was because Sturgil was associated with me.
So do you think he went there thinking like, I'm
I'm I'm around my people. Oh hell yeah, and then
he just had one of those awakenings. He's like, oh yeah,
my my girlfriend describes it great. She's a little Jewish girl.
(02:49):
She was like, can you imagine though, Like as a
white supremacist you walk out with blonde hair and blue
eye and then you and your name and like he
even says in the article, he's like he's like his accent,
everything's like this guy. Yeah, like and then you start
saying the things you said. I was like, yeah, it's
like Neil Brennan's head exploding. And the Chappelle shows get um,
(03:13):
do you get that a lot? Do people just assume
you're racist? Because yeah, the comic in Chattanoogo has a
great joke. He's like he's like they just people just
tell you those jokes, the racist joke. Yeah, all over
the country like uber drivers or stuff, like they hear
you're acting. You don't hear a joke? I do Jesus Christ,
(03:37):
what do wait, what do you start? Like, if you
don't mind revealing, what's what do you think is? Like,
what are the jokes that you come out with that
the immediately signals to the white supremacist Like I thought,
Billy Wayne, was I got the wrong idea about that?
I got the wrong Billy Wayne. I think, just how
openly okay with homosexuals I am bothers in them? And
(03:57):
then I called out in the Northwest, it's it's still
pretty segregated. That's what I noticed when I moved up there,
Like how like like that. I have a whole bit
on my first album about how they brag about the
Northwest like it's a utopia progressive liberality, and then you
get up there and you're like, Yo, where's the black
people they live on the West And then they're like, oh, yeah,
(04:17):
they that's Tacoma. We put them all into coma, right,
And I was like, you guys can't do that anyway,
that's not okay, So like yeah, and so I did
at that joke, and I think that opened his eyes
and then I just really dive into how silly a
lot of religion is right, And that guy was like
religion besides the one true religion, right, Christianity. Yeah, no, yeah,
(04:40):
he didn't have a problem, blind hair, blue eyed Jesus
me making fun of most religions. Specific Um, what's one
thing you believe to be overrated? And yeah, let's start
with pop music in generals. Pop like who who are
we talking? Who are you having your cross hairs right now?
(05:00):
I mean all of it? Yeah, Like most popular music
is not good. It's all the same song. Yeah, And
we're having a we're having kind of a a moment
where pop music is like embraced by everyone. I guess
it's been like a while that like call Me Maybe
was universally acclaimed as sort of a a great song
(05:25):
by even hipsters. And wait, really yeah call Me Maybe?
I always yeah, no people, you mean you think people
liked it just because it was so on the nose
it like like it was a perfect pop confection. God
damn it. I just think it's torture me. Yeah, that's what.
(05:45):
That's what it is. It's familiar and if your mindless,
it's perfect exactly. What's something that's underrated? I still think
that the movie Fargo is underrated. Fargo so good deal
underrated and I know it's acclaimed, but that's right. That's
(06:06):
the point I'm making, is it it's not discussed enough
when they bring up some of the great films. Yeah, yeah,
the show I haven't. I've watched a couple episodes of
this the first season. It's like one of those things
where I was like, immediately it was like, I don't
have time the time to give this show on the
time it deserves. Yes, that being said, it reminds me
(06:28):
of another thing I think is owner and rated in
the same vein as Extract, which is my judge last
movie I haven't that with Jason Babin. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,
I haven't seen it, but I always pops up with
like in any kind of algorithms, like you should watch
this movie and if that one's nailed you because I'm
writing down on my hand. And even to this underrated theme,
(06:48):
David Keckner's in it, who I think is grossly underrated
as an actor. He's so funny. Um, he plays a
character in an extract that is just it's that testament
that somebody it's so good at acting that you're mad
at him for a while, where just like I don't
like that guy at all because yeah, you sit and
think about it for an hour after the movie, right now,
(07:10):
that was He's goddamn genius. Alright, So let's get into
the stories that we're keeping an eye on, uh real quick.
The Daily Zygis were trying to take a sample of
the ideas that are out there in the firmament, change
in the world, whether we're looking or not. Talk about politics,
the president, news, but we also talk about movies, uh
(07:32):
and supermarket tabloids, which today is Supermarket Tabloid Day, So
we will get to uh some of those because yeah, people,
millions and millions of people past those every day, and
you know, those headlines creep into their mind where whether
they want them to or not. Uh. But first up,
(07:52):
we want to talk about drugs, uh, specifically the legal
heroin it uh has been going around in the past
couple of decades. So Trump finally declared a health emergency,
uh kind of sort of not the real one that
would actually get funding, not a national emergency. Yeah, his
(08:18):
press conference was pretty infuriating. He claims. At one point
he was like, you know, I have friends who are
can't stop drinking, and I'm like, I don't understand it.
And then Immediately after that goes into by the way,
killer Trump impression. Immediately after that goes into, uh that
(08:38):
the solution is just to tell them as kids not
to drink and not to do drugs. Do it. Yeah,
that'll erase any trauma that you have that sometimes motivates people.
So basically he and oh, oh, just not do it,
don't do it, just don't yeah. Uh he and I
think at one point he was like, I came up
(08:58):
with this brilliant idea. It's uh so he like reinvented Dare,
which is a program for our younger listeners. Dare is
something that we were subjected to in the eighties and
nineties where a police officer would come into school and
tell you about drugs and why you shouldn't do them. Uh.
(09:19):
And studies have since discovered that it actually made kids
more likely to use drugs than not. For sure, that
happened to me. Uh, just like who went to DARE
use drugs more than kids who didn't go to DARE.
It educated them about drugs exactly exactly. It was the
first place I ever smelled weed. He was like, smell that.
(09:39):
That's gonna be the worst smell you've ever smelled smelled pipe.
I was like, well that actually smell Yeah, um, why
do I feelso relax? It's also kind of the first
time I was like, I was like, yo, these cops
are sucking whack. Like the DARE officer that we had,
he was the late like, he was not a cool
looking cop. He looked like just a food who had
(10:00):
like fucked up. And they're like, all right, Chuck, you're
on DARE duty, right and just phone it in it
in this classroom. And he was like, yeah, this is
mushro I don't know, and it's like it was not fun,
and we're just like, Okay, the cops are wacko. If
you eat these you'll really think while you're a cop. Yeah.
I had the one story about how PCP like he
saw a guy like throw a dumpster at a cop car.
(10:22):
I heard that too. I think, I guess that's maybe
in the handbook. Yeah exactly, it's not even true. But
then I was like, Yo, PCP sounds fucking dope. PCP.
They told us all that PCP turns you into like
a super superhero. Yeah, you could, Like he was like,
I've seen somebody on PCP who was like shot eight
times and kept coming right like just like brushed it off.
I was like, wow, your soldiers right, the Nazis tried that. Yeah.
(10:46):
I go on YouTube live leak all the time. I'm
trying to find that PCP video that actually shows someone
you know that's dusted on PCP throwing. You'll never find it.
Or I've heard the dude rips his own arms off
on pp I've heard that one bunch like that. For
a while. I was like, that's what PCF does. You
don't rip your own arm off, which actually sounds kind
(11:07):
of awesome. Yeah, you see one armed ship? Did I
rip it off again? And also just in terms of
Dare's not gone there Dare. I was going out of
the Whole Foods in Silver like the other day and
there are two people doing that thing where they're sit
sit outside of the supermarket, but it was Dare Pete
and the ladies like, are you familiar with Dare? I
was like yeah, and I just can't walk. Wow, they're back,
(11:32):
They're back, baby um. And also just in terms of
a like lending one's celebrity clout to a cause, like
Trump being like, you know, we just need to tell
them drugs aren't cool. Is like, Okay, you are going
to kill the next generation. Everyone is going to die
of drug overdoses. If you like, just go out and
(11:54):
lend your celebrity to the anti drug cause. Um. But
you know, and I think people are aware that drugs
have become a problem. But you know, now opioids have
killed more people than Vietnam, which was not a great
war that didn't go well. And now opioids have have
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killed more people than that. Um. And Americans are now like,
for the first time in hundreds of years, Americans life
expectancy went down. They're saying, it's like this Nobel Prize
winner Angus Dton thinks that it's because of an epidemic
of suicide, alcohol abuse, and drug overdoses, specifically among middle
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aged white people. And uh So. The New York Times
podcast The Daily actually did an episode on the opioid
crisis last week, and they focused specifically on this one
town in Kentucky, uh that I used to live right
next to for some reason, like all like the three
towns that I heard called out as like among the
(13:02):
worst places for opioid abuse are all places I lived
growing up. It's like Wheeling, West Virginia. Uh. Miami Valley. Uh,
in like southern Ohio, like around the Dayton area and
now outside Alexing in Kentucky. But so they they interviewed
this kid who just tells the story of when you
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know he's growing up, he his town is like a
normal town, you know. Uh, and then the opioids hit
his town. And by the end of it, like every
one of his friends parents were dealing opioids, and like
he was dealing opioids. His mom was dealing opioids. He
was making fifteen hundred dollars a day, but then he
(13:44):
was also using opioids. So, uh, you know that that
wasn't working. Someone go through that money pretty quick. Yeah. Yeah,
it's not a good Uh, it's not a good system. Right.
But um yeah, we actually have I think a quote
or I think we have a section of that episode
that we're going to play for you real quick. Everybody
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everybody either a we're doing and telling us to coether
on themselves or be they knew someone who did. Um,
this is parents of of my friends. If not, they're
their brothers, their older brothers and their their sisters. Yeah,
everyone did this, even even people who didn't do drugs. Eventually,
(14:25):
did this because it was so profitable. How do you
make sense of people's parents doing this. Did you grow
up in a community with a lot of friends whose
parents needed money? Yes? Yeah, I mean this is like,
this is the recession, this is two thousand and eight,
two was nine ten eleven. And what about your parents?
(14:45):
My mother eventually jumped on that train, but my father
has never touched drugs in his entire life. And which
train did your mom jump on? Uh? The distribution of narcotics.
She had a lot of things to pay for, and
my grandmother was in poor health, and there was a
lot of you know, financial strife there, so she did
what she thought was a rational idea. Yeah, so that's crazy,
(15:09):
like his grandmother being in poor health, meaning like medical
costs being so high, that's even feeding the need for
some much so like there's such a snake eating its
own tail in so many ways with this ship, it's
it's terrifying. It's well and then lucky. I think that's important.
What he said too, was like she thought she made
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a rational decision and looking at it, like I mean
from a finance you just look around and you're like, well,
this seems to be literally the only way to make
any money here. This is the only way to make
any money. Yeah. I mean when you think about like,
these are all rational human beings making decisions, it's not
because they don't know the dangers of drug use. They
(15:53):
know the dangers of drug use. They're weighing that risk
into their decision making process and still coming out the
other end thinking that, yeah, using drugs or dealing drugs
is the better way to go because I don't want
my mother to die or you know, I have to
feed my kids. Um, So I don't think a commercial
(16:15):
telling that person don't do that, right, come on, they're
gonna be like, oh, oh okay. Um. It was like
in college, I played baseball for a couple of years
and steroids. I realized, like steroids weren't cheating then, it
was the way, but I like I had. I mean
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a lot of people on our team were on them
and I couldn't compete with that. And I remember I
call my dad, who's a high school football quesch I
was like, Yo, what the fun what is this? And
he was like, don't do it. It's not he just
knew enough about the side effects. He's like, it's not
gonna be worth it right, right right, and he was right, like,
I'm so glad I didn't do that. I mean, granted
(16:57):
I drank a ton in my twenties, which is like
argue just the same, but it was like, it's not
the same, Like my body is still fine, and like
your head didn't grow like nine hats all that ship
and then most of them didn't make it right exactly.
Even in my high school. I'm like, football players were
working around with you know, steroids and ship like that,
(17:18):
and I don't know a single one of them that
that's playing in the league now either. And it's just
crazy because that it's it's sort of normalized, like you're saying,
it's the way. It's like, well, this is kind of
what people are doing. They compete when they're done using steroids,
and their head shrinks back down to normal size. Like
do they have just like a like thing of skin
that they like tie on the back of their head.
(17:40):
That's not their head, Okay, that's not steroids. That's something
called human growth hormone, which is a second puberty. That's
what Barry Bonds did. That's why if you look at
him when he came into the league and when he
left it was like he's a different human being, right,
that's what human growth hormans. That's what like a slice
to stallone does. That's why he's like seventy something looks
(18:00):
like he's fifty two. Um, that's the second Peter. That's
something they found in your body that it produces. It's
very dangerous. But steroids, what happened. I knew a guy
who had titties, not like like man boobs, Like he
didn't take estrogen blocker's with the type of steroids he
was taken, so he developed straight up breasts tits like
(18:22):
I mean, and we were ruthless about it. I mean,
he got what he deserved. Really, yeah, gain okay, maasty
is not fun for anyone. Damn the fact that you
know that word, yoh man, because because sometimes you know,
you start getting your thirties, look at your own body
and I'm like, damn, am I getting titties? And then
you look up on the internet You're like, that's what
it's called. So there's also been a couple We're going
(18:46):
to touch on this real quick, and we could probably
do a whole episode on this family, the Sackler family,
who is the family that has owned Perdue Pharma. Who
are the makers of oxycon for uh the past. I
don't know, however many number of decades, uh they So
(19:08):
Arthur Sackler, Uh is sort of uh great name. Three
Arthur Sackler. So this dude, Arthur Sackler was there are
all three of these brothers are doctors. Arthur Sackler was
like on the side, because doctors didn't make that much
money back in their in their early twentieth century, went
and started doing ad copyrighting just because he was like, oh,
(19:32):
that seems easy enough, and so he was so good
at it that he eventually was able to buy the
entire ad firm. This guy seems like he's like sort
of the genius of the family, and he basically invented
modern pharmaceutical advertising and marketing in the sense that he
started making ads that are directed at doctors who would
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then prescribe the drugs, and that was sort of his
contribution to medicine, which a lot of people now look
back on in are like that is it was a
Pandora's box. That's really bad. I have a question. Yeah,
I'm sorry, raise my hand. What made him realize, oh,
I should advertise to the doctors, Like, was there something
(20:16):
where it was like he realized, like, oh, if we
keep telling them about this one drug, they like there
had to be like a Eureka moment or well because
he was a doctor and the doctor and an advertiser
and so like, by bringing those two industries into one mind,
he was able to just be like, oh, well this
is easy. You just like I know people, yeah, yeah, exactly,
(20:40):
all right, and I'm sure other times you should be
like ask your doctor about this, and now you can
eliminate that and just be like tell your patients about
this exactly. So the first time that he was able
to use this strategy was with valium, and valium basically
had the same effect as another anti anxiety that was
in the market, but his idea was to pretend like
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valium could be used for any sort of I think
he called it mental tension. So he was like one
of his ads was a girl like with a backpack
and it was like going away to college for the
first time, like that has some anxiety. Use valium like
or prescribe value ship. So like he was just like, yes,
spread it out like say it's for anything gets sleepy,
(21:29):
right exactly, mad that you lost that game of Madden, right,
so he had a huge success with that. Uh, and
his family eventually would do the exact same thing with oxycontent,
which uh, I guess content is for continuation or continual
(21:49):
because it's supposed to be like time released. Yeah, and
doxy is basically, uh the same. It's like the active
ingredient in um per cassette and one of the other painkillers,
but those ones are like mixed with things that tamped
them down, and oxy is just like the pure, uncut
form of of that. And they were just like, all right,
(22:11):
we're gonna create a thing that can last for twelve hours.
That is this like thing that is stronger than morphine. Uh. People,
for whatever reason there they were confusing it with another
ingredient and thought it was actually weaker than morphine. And
he knew that or they knew that, and so they
(22:33):
focused on that, and We're like, this is actually less
addictive than morphine. It's like a less addictive alternative. They
like focused on people's misconceptions to like help blow up oxycontent,
and oxycont was the strongest drug that has ever been
on the market or like will ever be on the market,
and people were getting addict yeah, I know, I'm underestimating
(22:57):
them motivating the next great pharmaceuticals bread. So anyways, this
this family has sort of stayed off the radar for
the most part because Purdue Pharma is a private company. Uh.
Forbes actually just found out about them and was like, oh,
you're one of the richest families in America. High like,
welcome to the Forbes Richest Families list, and they were
(23:19):
like shit, exactly. Uh. They do a bunch of philanthropy
and you know, donate to like their entire wings of
museums that are named after them, But they do not
do any philanthropy in the area of drug abuse rehabilitation.
Why not? I don't know, man, They just they like
(23:42):
to feed those They feel like they're doing enough work
feeding them. With the patient population, we've created an industry exactly. Um.
So yeah, that's what we'll dig into the Sacklers a
little bit more. We It's also interesting to think about
the double standard between how opioid how the opioid crisis
is being treated, and how the crack epidemic was treated
(24:06):
in the eighties, because opioids are primarily a you know,
white disease, and crack was primarily seen as like a
a black and urban disease. And like you heard in
Michael Barbarrow's question, uh that he was like, how could
(24:27):
parents be dealing this? And it's just like they're drug dealers, man,
Like right, It's just I think his confusion stemmed from
the fact that he couldn't picture white parents like dealing drugs.
But uh, we will dig go to high school in
the South, all right, we'll dig into that in a
(24:48):
future episode. But we're gonna take a quick break and
when we come back, we're gonna talk about the conspiracy
theory that Stranger Things is based on. My buddy used
to have this joke where it was like he talked
about going to Dennis and they gave him he's a
(25:08):
kind damn it. Now I gotta go to prescription, Philip
prescription and mom my way home. I look, it's like,
don't used with alcohol. He's like, some of a bitch.
Now I have to go get beer. Well done, That
is a great joke. It's not a bitch. And we're back.
(25:29):
So Stranger Things debuted at the end of last week. Um,
I have yet to see it. Uh, I gotta open
up my whole schedule. If I'm gonna do that. I know.
It's it's a lot. Uh, It's like me and Fargo.
The first season was one of those that took over
my life. Like I just was like on a business
(25:50):
trip and watched the first episode and then like that
whole trip, I was just like binging staying up at
night like watching it. So yeah, I I need to
clear my schedule, uh and stop hosting this podcast. Before
I watched the second season. Um, but so apparently our
writer J M McNabb told us a story about where
(26:12):
Stranger Things came from. So apparently the original title for
Stranger Things was Montak and it's because it is based
on I think I assumed it was based on just
the collected works of everyone who had a beard in
the eighties and was named Stephen. But apparently it's also
based on a real conspiracy theory. But it's not one
(26:36):
of my conspiracy theories. So you don't you don't need
to miss the undermining music they play at any time
I mentioned one of my conspiracy theories too, to undermine me, Billy,
it's it's not fair. Well, um, but so you power structure,
you were aware of the of this. Uh yeah, that's
where the Philadelphia experiment and all that they were trying
(26:58):
to do inter dimensional travel. Okay, I don't know any
of this ship My favorite one is the one you have.
The last one you have references a hairy monster physically
birth from someone's consciousness. Yeah, that's come on, So that's
what I want. What is going what is this man?
What was going on? So the theory is that and
a lot of this comes from recovered uh memories from
(27:21):
somebody who claims that these experiments were done on him,
but allegedly I think it was in three A lot
of Nazi scientists and the scientists who worked on the
Manhattan Project were like basically doing experiments on children in
this uh in Montalk is the name of the town,
(27:42):
I guess, um, And like some of the theories are
that there was this thing called the Montalk Chair that
used electro magnets to amplify psychic powers. Um, so they
were like identifying kids with in according to this conspiracy theory,
they found like gifted children or whatever. They're trying to
(28:04):
give them gifts, right, so they were almost experienced, like
can you can you upgrade somebody's brain? You start doing
some psychic ship o Yeah, they were experimenting on abducted children.
According to the theory. Uh, they were opening warmholes to
other times. Uh and yeah, like Billy Wayne said, a
hairy monster that was physically birthed from someone's consciousness. Um.
(28:28):
Another Another aspect of this conspiracy theory is that one
person claimed they were involved in time travel experiments amount
at Montauk that successfully altered the outcome of the Civil War.
So this person that he made sure the Union one. Yeah,
and we can thank him for time. Otherwise we lived
in an existence that will be uh dramatize in an
(28:52):
upcoming HBO series called They Are Yeah I believe, so
just sticking good idea. I don't know all the black
people say it's not uh, but we did. Uh we
(29:12):
got insecure, but they'll be on board. Isn't made good? Yeah,
so who knows, we may get a season where the
kids from Stranger Things are like bayonetting Confederate troops. But
but this conspiracy there is based off of the scattered
memories of a few people that claim they were Also
one guy who is like who says he was like
(29:32):
the original eleven. Well, there are a couple of sources.
Now that's what I'm because the Philadelphia Experiment has that's
there's papers about that and like government papers where they
were trying to make a chip disappear. And then there's
like a there's weird people that come back and have said, hey,
I was I was in that and I came back
(29:54):
and out like half of me was in a wall
or something like that. I mean the Philidia. If you've
never read about the Philadelphia Experiment, it's fascinating. It is
like really next level ship. Like there's some stuff at
Area fifty one. Is that where it is Studio fifty four,
a lot of cocaine and now where they think that
(30:18):
Nazi scientists might have been responsible for UFOs, might have
like figured out how to do like non jet propelled
uh flight. And also they think that some some of
the sightings of like little gray men might have been
the result of Nazi experiments on humans and that this
(30:39):
is all part of this book called Area fifty one
by a l a Times journalist who I think since
this book came out has been like everyone's like, oh,
you're not a journalist anymore, but it's there. There's some
really crazy theories in there. Um. But yeah, this this
apparently belongs to that whole. There's the tread of truth
(31:01):
to it, and then uh, a bunch of stuff that
seems like it's probably been elaborated by imaginative people. Here's
nothing about area if you want is uh. I do
think there's some weird ship going on out there, but
I think and I my theory is we've found some
alien ship. That's why we have like the stealth bomber
and ship like that, and other countries don't because if
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you look at any other technology besides that, all the
countries you end up they end up stealing it or
figuring or reverse engineering it. And with the stealth stuff
they can't figure The other countries can't figure that ship out. No,
they don't have those best. Yeah. Now you're saying it's
because we're fun with alien technology, Well we are the
(31:44):
best because we happened to like they crashed in our
in our country, thank god. But it's kind of stuff
that's my working right about where that kind of stuff,
because there's certain technology just question wise, we're like, we're
in the fuck did that come from human wise? Earthwise?
(32:04):
Just such a leap and then there's no thing they
can't explain it. And when and when you look like, oh,
like with jet engines and stuff like that, you just
find when you reverse engineer ed out stealth technology. They
haven't done that exclusive shit the US exclucy so, but
they think the grazier in Ohio, that's where they keep
the bodies in the Air Force based like saying stuff
(32:29):
like that. Very yeah, yeah, that's right, right, state Air
Force base and date in Ohio. That would that would
make sense. Then maybe that's why they all need to
use so many drugs, because just get rid of that
reality that they're having to repress. Okay, here we go,
got some got some next level ship going on. Um,
all right, let's let's move on to bloyd watch. The
(32:53):
theory behind bloyd watches. These are headlines that are hitting
more people's eyeballs than maybe any headlines uh in Media
and the National enquir The Globe, the National Examiner are
all published by the same guy, a guy named uh
no joke, David Pecker and uh you gotta own it.
(33:13):
He also he also has US Weekly, Um, basically all
the tabloids one dude, and he is uh Donald Trump's
like boy. They're like homies and a ship head fraternity, right, exactly.
Oh yeah, well it's crazy me too, because they're they're
(33:34):
like stories of the New Yorker did a peace talking
about sort of Pecker's his company, and just how even
when they would do like initially pitch meetings around Trump,
how he would like gloss over um any any kind
of story that would paint Trump Trump negatively. So like
one day when they're that video came out of Trump
or Milania batting Donald's hand away, a lot of the
(33:56):
people were like, hey, should we talk about this, and
he's like, he just said, I haven't I haven't seen this,
I don't know what you're talking about, and sort of
did that twice and basically, you know, he's he's it's
clear that if you look at any headlines, they're definitely
all pro Trump. Like in the build up to the election,
there were things like you know, how Donald is gonna
win the debate, or then the other ones are like
crazy Hillary is about to die, you know. So it's
(34:18):
it's it's very clear how they're um. You know, their relationship,
they are, they're very good friends, right, and you can
see it in in the headlines. Just this week, so
share one of the most outspoken Donald Trump critics on Twitter.
Uh is according to the National Examiner, Uh, they have
the cover with the headline share seventy one colin let
(34:42):
me die, and then the caption sick, loveless, frail and
flat broke loveless. Yeah, that was tough. That was the meanest.
That's that's cutting. It's mean, and most of the stuff
is based on nothing. Uh. It's actually amazing because all
that they always have these like quotes from anonymous inside sources,
(35:05):
but they always speak in the exact same voice as
the rest of the article, Like they like have this
like caddy bitchy, like puns and stuff like share can't
believe that, you know, like how far she's fallen. It's
just basically it's like they just put quotes around parts
of the article and then just make that a quote,
make that a quote from inside sources. Um, what what else?
(35:28):
Are what else are Americans across the country learning right now?
Kathie Lee, the real Kathie Lee, has exposed she is mean.
According to Very Mean. That feels right though, that one
feels like, yeah, that one checks out. And Um, the
Clintons covered up Weinstein's sex scandal, according to the Globe,
(35:51):
But then you go to the actual article and it's
just all speculation. It's everything that we already know that. Uh.
You know he can train you did to some of
their campaigns. Uh. And then so they have a quote
from an insider. This is a good example of one
of their insiders who speaks exactly like them. Quote Weinstein's
disgusting sexual antics were an open secret in Hollywood, and
(36:14):
who knows Obama and Hillary may have heard the rumors
but ignored them to keep the money river flowing. If
Obama did hear the talk, then shame shame on him
for letting his daughter work for the slimeball. Uh. That's
supposedly a quote from an inside I want to hear
that tape or conversation, right. Um. But yeah, so all
(36:35):
they have is uh is uh a quote inside source
saying that they may have heard rumors. Uh. So that's
that's all that they got. But according to the headlines
that half of America is going to see, they have
way more than that. They also hate Megan Kelly. Uh.
They on the Inquirers front page they have mean girl.
(36:58):
Megan's sister tells all racist bully phony. Uh. This one
says new humiliation for Megan yeah, they come at her
from h all angles. Why are they coming from Megan Kelly?
She jumped ship. She jumped ship just because O'Reilly. Oh
so you're saying this is this is O'Reilly payback on
(37:20):
her Trump, right. I think she was just well, I mean,
she had her sat with Trump, didn't get on board
the way they wanted her to. With Trump, though, I
think she was still like I know which side I'm on,
but like, could we at least be like act like
having here, like we're a little bit right, And then
(37:41):
they were just like do your job, and she's like,
all right, Well, what's funny too, is they use like
a piece John Oliver did in that article to be like,
look at all this crazy ship. She said, it's like
what you're you're even using like what to them is
like liberal media punditry to like then paint your picture
to smear Megan Kelly. Well, it's like Trump's think someone
said that was like it's fake news if it's negative,
(38:05):
and it's it's real if it's positive, right, if it benefits,
and it doesn't matter where it's coming from, right, And
he's very blatant with that. That's I have to believe
that people are people know that, like people recognize that
at this point, right that when he says fake news,
it just means it's news, that is What do you
(38:25):
mean people just even even his his base, You don't
you think they literally believe that. Every one of the
things that The New York Times writes about him is
I mean, there are people stabbing their parents because they
think they're quote leftists. People are operating in this quasi reality.
(38:46):
I mean, did you hear about that guy's dad though?
I mean he was he was kind of a cuck.
I mean, Jesus, all right, we're gonna go to a
quick break and when we come back a few last things,
including the widening Harvey effect. And we're back and we're
(39:15):
kind of running short on time, so we're gonna spike
one of our stories we had we wanted to talk about, uh,
this huge news story that is outraging. Uh. Like literally
everyone including The New York like Maggie Haberman came out
and was like, I could not believe that the Clinton
campaign helped pay for the dossier. I don't understand that.
(39:37):
That seems like faux outrage to me, because, like, if
you're a political journalist, a career political journalist. You you
understand what they do in those campaigns. You know what
oppo is, what opposition research? And also the dossier began
with a Republican doing oppo research Ron Trump, so before
he got the nomination. Um. But we're not We're like
(39:59):
the stories just going to the story is just gonna
keep going because it seems like every time the probe,
the Muller probe kind of starts heating up. We we
get this machine. Yeah, it seems like a very ripe
one for them to be like, oh, Muller is focusing
on that, Why aren't they focusing on this? The uranium deal?
(40:20):
If it keeps going, we're gonna get to see the alien. Yeah, right,
the papers coming out aliens, I mean yeah, maybe we
will find out the origin is gonna be yeah yeah,
soon enough. See if they can figure out the opioid
addiction problem, that's the alien, right, that's what they say
from it from alien. We gave that, we gave heroin,
do you guys that was strictly for musicians? Okay, and
(40:43):
you guys keep using it. If that's only for very
talented musicians, you give them heroin? Uh So We're gonna
move on to the Harvey effect, which George H. W
Bush is the last uh victim. I think I think
we should call him a victim now, the last perpetrator
who uh women now feel empowered enough to be like, oh, yeah,
(41:06):
this guy sexually assaults people. Uh. I guess George h.
W Is is now you know, wheelchair bound and suffering
from dementia. But you know, so it's unclear. It's not
a clear cut thing, but I do just supposedly, Uh.
The way he was doing this wash he would get
(41:31):
in a photo with attractive women and before the person
took the picture, asked, do you want to know who
my favorite magician is? And they would say what what
the funk are you talking about talking to? And then
he would say David Kappa feel and grab their ass
(41:53):
uh and or packed sometimes you would pat him or
pat pat their rear. Is how he thought of it.
Um and warn me when the offensive parts come in
and then um they apparently that So the woman who
uh actually finally came out and was like, Yo, this
(42:15):
dude just did this to me and it's not okay. Uh.
She said that Barbara bush At in the moment was
there so h W's wife was there and she was
like rolling her eyes, like, oh, ship, this ship again.
And then his secret service was like, well, you shouldn't
have gone near him if you didn't want to get
your and then o then two other actresses came out
(42:40):
were like, he did the same thing to me with
the same joke, which it is a good joke. I mean,
you gotta work it out like that, you gotta use it. Yeah.
I have a theory that like famous people live in
a time capsule of whatever the year that they were
at their peak of famousness was is that's when they
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inherit all their yes men, and so that's all the assumptions,
like they stop existing in reality at that point in time,
and that's real. He left the office in ninety two,
which was probably right around David Copperfields like peak, right
like maybe a few years after. I mean, yeah, he
in ninety two, the most famous magician would have been
(43:24):
David Copperfield had to have been or you know, like
he was probably contending with Sig Freedo roy or some ship.
But yeah, like David Copperfield was like I think one
of like the really first big sort off you know,
gotta you gotta gotta get sick freedom Like, hey, you
got people at home are like what about um? But
(43:47):
the Harvey effect does seem to be uh coming for
these perverts. Leon we sel Tier, who, as you can tell,
I was very familiar with prior to the story. He
was apparently an editor and sayst at The New Republic
and apparently like a known pervert for many years. Uh.
(44:07):
Mark Halprin, who's just the sort of human being. He's
like a famous political journalist who is the sort of
human being you would never associate with sex ever. Like
he's just like this like dry, sort of straightforward dude
who like seems like he was born to, you know,
go to his daughter's soccer game while he was at
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ABC News and one of the heads of political coverage
at ABC News had a habit of pressing his boner
against female underlings without their consent. So and I mean,
well when you ask him, they don't let right exactly.
That's the problem is what he's supposed to do? U. Yeah,
he he looks he looks like a business hotel turned
(44:52):
into a human. He's a Hampton man with a human being, um,
which will press its boner against you. Yeah, And I
mean the that video of the young woman walking through
New York where she's being harassed, like, and I've talked
to friends of mine who are like, yeah, it can
(45:14):
be that bad. Like I was talking to somebody who
said that she keeps her windows rolled up because when
she has her windows rolled down, dudes just dry like
pull up next to her and like start you know,
saying offensive ship to her about like how they want
to have sex with her. Um, Okay, here's my theory
(45:34):
behind this. I've known dudes that do that. My theory
like anybody that has a weird that hit on women
or do that in a weird way where you're just
like you do it like that, right, Um, why it's
worked once right and then and be based off that experiment. Yes,
(45:54):
that means it could probably happen again. Yes, where it's like, yeah,
you ask a hundred women that way, ninety nanam are
going to be like I'm going to report you to
the police. It's just like a weird you know, because
all humans are sucked up, so everyone's approach is different.
But I also wonder how much of it is the
power of like that. That's that's definitely what I noticed
(46:14):
with the Weinstein thing is like he oh, without a doubt. Yeah,
it was like his ability dominate them and like make
them you know, even considerate or like I guess watch
him masturbate was like part of like what got him
going so Like I mean the fact that a dude
can just pull up next to a woman and like
(46:34):
get a charge like sexually from you know, making her uncomfortable.
Uh you know that that doesn't cost him anything. Just
I never thought of that part of the fucking suck.
Making them uncomfortable makes them, that turns them on. That's
I'm sure if if you have, if your your interactions
(46:56):
with women aren't good or like you haven't you you
you're unable to cultivate like an actual relationship with a woman.
I guess the next best thing is just like that's
your way of trolling by because you're like, well I'm
not I'm not capable of conducting myself in a way
that I'm attractive to a rational human woman. Then the
next thing is like what's stop growing? Yeah, okay, or
(47:17):
it's just repressed so so much that it comes out
in a weird way, like as I think that's not
talked about enough, Like people are taught your sexual feelings
are bad, and then you keep having them, they're gonna
come out in this weird, deviant way. Uh. The I
think the Midwest is full of very weird sexual people, um,
(47:40):
because of that, and you look at sucking Japan and
Germany samething. The porn is sucking insane. But I'm not.
I do think there's something to the power thing. I
don't understand because I I blessed enough to had a
good childhood and I'm very turned on by normal things. Um.
But like the thing that made was obvious was the
(48:01):
Bill O'Reilly thing where it's cost him so much fucking
money over the years that it's like, oh, that's not
about sex, that's pure power. That's all power with him,
just millions and millions of dollars. He's Henry keep saying
this ship to you, what the fund are you gonna
out here? Some money here? And he he has, he
(48:23):
goes to the New York Times is like, think of
my kids. It's like, dude, you think of your kids.
This keeps happening to you, This keeps happening every time
you do it. You have to pay millions of dollars
and it goes in the paper, like maybe you should
think about your kids. Um yeah, and the Internet. Uh
seems like the Internet invented trolling. But I mean guys
who don't get laid have been doing this for for
(48:46):
many many years. Well and also I mean the internet
culture is vastly dominated just like, yeah, alright, I was
gonna do it for uh this season premiere. Uh, Billy,
thank you so much time joining us. Where people follow
you and what should they look for from you? I
(49:08):
have a record out and third Man Records, um marking
on new stuff, but that's what's out right now. Uh
it's a vinyl record. You can buy it digitally on iTunes.
It's Billy Wayne Davis a lot at third Man Records.
If you google my name, all that social ship comes up.
I have Twitter, I think I have a Facebook and
uh Instagram. You said Goggle? What was Google? It's a
(49:30):
search engine? All right, it's so do you heard it here? First? Folks?
Google put Billy Wayne Davis all spelled normally into into
am not supposed to say Google? Uh no, he like
that'd be a weird person to piss off. He piste
off Google. We're sponsored by being so miles. Where can
(49:53):
people follow you. I follow me on Twitter and Instagram
at Miles of Gray. Is that kind of like an
email a thing like Miles of Gray? In my mind,
it was like a night thing, night like Miles of Gray.
Oh got it? Got dope. You can follow me at
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