Rick Rolls On Manafort, Pet Cemetery = Military Propaganda? 8.7.18

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season forty three, episode
two of their Daily Night Guys Where August seven, two eight.
Team my Names, Jack O'Brien aka Me and you, Oh
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be joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.
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I'm we are through to be joining our third tee
by one of the funniest human beings and writers on
planet Earth and one of my favorite people on planet Earth.
We are of no relation, Mr Daniel O'Brien, thank you.
It's a shame you said such nice things about me
because they had loaded in the chamber a joke about
how you're a ks must come from bloom A paper,
because you're really making a fucking meal out of them, insane.

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You guys are out of control. What so what do
you mean? What's what's out of control about? It is
it's too self indulgent to start a podcast and have
to hit the skip ahead fifteen seconds, mustial times to
get to the guests. This is just this is what
we do, you know, it's it used to just be potatoes,
it used to just be a word. And now you
guys are are really making little one many musical one. Yeah,

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pretty soon we're gonna do. I think I'm going to
try and do And that's a twenty minute full on
a just to take people there. They're often not even
puns anymore, like say which I'm kind of miles. That
kind of works. Gray bad, gray bad. I won't see
anything gray in there, so it all works. I'm glad

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I cut the went to them all the other day.
The entire first verse that is gonna wrap of my
A K. Daniel. It's wonderful to have you before we
get to know you a little bit better. We're gonna
tell our listeners what they're in store for. Uh. We're
gonna talk about how we're all living in a new
reality that language hasn't caught up with. To start off
with something light, Uh, we're gonna talk about four and

(02:32):
ten movies made under direct influence of the Pentagonal list
using Foyer requests was just compiled. It's pretty interesting. We're
gonna talk about Rick Gates, the witness at the Maniport
trial yesterday. It's just like, yeah, we crimed it up together,
that's for sure. We're gonna talk about how certain elections

(02:54):
are looking a little shady. If you're if you're worried
about the sanctity of our democracy, you might be in
in store for some sleepless nights. We're gonna talk about
Steven Sagall now being a Russian citizen, not just a friend,
but a Russian citizen, like I assumed that was the case,
that he's been pronounced Vladimir Putin. Uh. We're gonna talk

(03:17):
with super producer on a hosnier about what the funk
went down on the Bachelorette last night. We're gonna talk
about Colin Kaevernick on the New Madden and we're not
on it. Yeah, we're not on it, and you know
we're and you know, and you know, and that whole
thing racism. We're gonna talk about how Johnny Depp's Biggie Flick,

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which we've talked about once or twice. Before I saw
the trailer, I was confused as to how this was
going to be a movie. It turns out it's not,
maybe because they pulled it from the release schedule. It's
no longer being released in a month. Uh, movie pass
has downgraded yet again. Somehow. We're going to talk about
the McDonald's monopoly scam going to theaters near you in

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the not too distant future. But first, Daniel, we like
to ask Carl Guest, what is something from your search
history that's revealing about who you are? The most recent
search that had was why aren't there more female magicians?
Something that I've been thinking about for a while, and
I want to stay in advance that the answer is
not satisfying. UM, But I watch a lot of magic

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videos on YouTube because I like magic a whole lot,
and the show fool Us with Penn and Teller is
a joy of a show to watch. And I'm noticing
that like one, just anecdotally, one out of every like
twenty was a female magician. And I started googling around.
I assumed in the back of my head that the
reason would be some like secretly terrible sexist reason, like

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we would find out that, like most industries, the magic
industry is like very toxic and bad for women's like
stand up comedy, right right. I haven't exactly seen that.
But the only article that I found, and it's called
why are there so Few Female Magicians? It's from The
Atlantic by Ashley Feder, but it came out in two
thousand thirteen, and I just feel like we need to
do another study because even in this report, the author

(05:06):
is just like, we're not really sure. Sometimes people are
saying maybe it's because women aren't aren't encouraged to play
with toys when they're young, and toys lead to magic.
There's a lot of people saying, like magic is a
pursuit of people who get bullied as a kid, because
it's very much an indoor introvert pursuit. And uh, the
article suspects that women don't get bullied as much when

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they're they're younger, and they don't. We gotta yeah, we
need Daniel O'Brien think peace on the closest thing that
they got that made like literal sense to me was
it's a costume thing. A lot of times magic you
hide things in your coat and your sleeves, and women
don't wear big coats. When they do, you have an
attractive woman, So it's just like it's harder to do

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magic when you're wearing a tight dress, right or yeah?
And I think if and if you look at the
magic shows, like as a kid, the women roys, the
assistance who are just in address who had sod in half?
And that was that, And I guess maybe if you're
not represented like that as a kid, are like, I
don't want to do that. I'm not sure I saw
it in half. Also shout out to my homegirl Carl,
who was actually a very avid magician. It was like

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a producer that I met on a like a past
job and she was taking classes at the Magic House.
She's like, I've always wanted to be a magician since
I was a kid. It's like now that have the
free time I'm doing and actually I think wrote a
film about being a queer magician. Yeah, that she's trying
to get kickstarted. Yeah, that's film. Just reminds me of
how dated that article is because they open their article

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with in the new movie Burt Wonderstone Magician, I'm like,
this is no longer relevant. Wow, that movie happened, didn't it. Um. Yeah,
I also wonder if there's any element of it that
magical women scare men like and have since very early
on which I was brought up to. It was like, yeah,

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because for hundreds of years women were murdered for pursuing that.
I give you to like Carrie, they have to unmagic
everything just to keep men comfortable. What is something you
think is overrated? Daniel, I'm gonna say Howard Stern and Jack.
You're a little bit older than me, so I want

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to do my little piece about him and then leave
room for you to prove me wrong, because I think
that that that I will not be um. I bring
this up just because he is someone that I was
aware of as a child as a shock jock, and like,
I'm from far enough in the past that my life
is quaint, and like Howard Stern, my dad would listen to.
But I was not allowed to listen to this. I'm

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from a very different time where like this radio program
is for adults, you can't listen to it. But I
knew of him as like a shocking guy, and then
I saw his show on E And the thing that
sticks in my craw about him is that so many
comedians and writers and people I respect really revere him.
He is like somehow graduated into this place of uh
royalty and untouchability, especially as an interviewer, and everyone just like, oh,

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I mean like that he does the shock jock stuff,
but really him as an interview or he gets places
that you wouldn't expect. So I did some research into this,
and I just don't think it bears any fruit. Like
I there's so many old interviews with him and uh, miles,
your President, Donald Trump, And there is no one on
the planet, no one on Fox News who is as

(08:19):
asked kissy to Donald Trump as Howard Stern really fawning
interview after fawning interview through the nineties nearly two thousands,
where he's just talking about what a stud Donald Trump
is and just like setting him up to be the man,
and not in a way that he's not giving Trump
rope to hang himself or embarrass himself. He just like, man,
I but you're you're what you're you're you're pulling down
like tens models every night, right say yes, like yeah,

(08:42):
I guess I am. You're so great. And there's other
views that I see him do, Like there's one that
sticks out in my mind from uh when he was
doing the E Show, which was just his show that
was filmed, and he had Carmen Electra on and he
wanted to sit on the Sabbian machine. Is that the yeah,
some like sex toy machine, and he very clearly wanted

(09:04):
to get her to orgasm live on the radio, and
she very clearly like, no, I'm not going to do that,
and he's and he's like, she does that Howard starting thing.
It gets really close to the mic and it's like,
just bet, there's no wheels here, it's just me. It's
just me. How it's Stern sucking me, Howard Stern and
your voice and like, how do you feel close your
eyes and she's like, no, I'm not gonna do it.
And it's like four minutes of a gross old man

(09:25):
trying to get this woman to orgasm into a microphone. Well,
this show was just gross misogynistic bullshit from the onset.
I think, as like a twelve year old, I was like,
whoa cool, he's using a laser pointer to point in
at like a woman's breast and be like, yeah, you
gotta fix these and you're like that right. Yeah. They
would have the people who were like, I want to
be a playmate, and they would come on it would
be like Dr salth Collabor was like the plastic surgeon,

(09:47):
and they would just literally grade their bodies and yeah,
this is yeah, I don't know if you're gonna play
with this whatever, blah blah blah. I mean, yeah, I
don't know if he deserves to be Like I remember
being hot to me as a kid, Like when I
would sneak off and listen to Howard Stern by my elf.
It's so strange to me just I mean, this is
just the state of the prevalence of pornography or laughter
of in the early nineties when I was a kid.
It's Howard starting me like, wow, she took off her clothes,

(10:09):
you have an amazing body, and I'd just be sitting
there like I believe you that sounds and one day
to see stuff. But like when I see him, like
Letterman had his Netflix show where he interviews six important
people and it's George Clooney, Barack Obama, Jay Z, Tina Fey,
and like, oh gosh, Howard Stern. I'm like, I don't
think you're in that camp, man. I don't think he

(10:30):
belonged there. And I don't know why he's sort of
been grandfathered in into this legendary legacy status. But yeah,
it's even like Fred Armison, who's this like, you know,
super comic guy, and like he's like, Howard Stern's my
biggest comedic influence. I'm like, what, I would be worried
if you if you list Howard Stern is one of
your comedic legends, I would look a little bit deeper. Um,

(10:53):
But yeah, I agree. I never listened to him growing up,
and once I started working in comedy, I fell like
I was like coming from a different planet where I
didn't refer to him as like Howard Howard Man to
Howard uh. But I also started working in comedy in
New York, and I think that's like a very New
York thing because people who lived in New York growing up,

(11:15):
all had that for them like the whole time. So
I don't know if it's like something that imprinted on
them early or something. It was like edgy comedy at
a young age. I think that's all. As a kid,
you see that stuff and you're like, whoa, this is like,
this is like something else. This is something that normally
I wouldn't be able to see her here. And then
once that wears off and you're like, actually, this is right.

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And if that was the only thing that he was
known for, if it was just like, look, no one
at the time was doing anything as subverse as this,
then I'd be like, Okay, yeah, Probably describing boobs into
a microphone was using life changing for a lot of people.
Are having disabled people as props for your thing. You're like, oh,
this guy stutters like, oh, here's beetle juice, the weird
looking guy, and you're like, You're like, back, you do

(11:58):
you look like you're like, yo, this ship is fuck off.
This is not good. You can't do this. That's a
really good point. He's he probably doesn't work anymore for
a lot of reasons. What is something you think is underrated? Uh?
You tell me if this is the first time this
has happened on your podcast. The last time I was here,
I did overrated bird Scooters, Underrated bird Scooters. What happened

(12:23):
you've come back from. There's still two problems that I
have with it, uh, and they are it's garris. I
don't like the way that it looks in neighborhoods have
these dirty scooters strewn about everywhere. And when you say scooters,
you mean, oh, I mean the scooters Bird in Line,
these electric scooters that you can get like those city bikes.
You pay to rent these things and you get charged

(12:45):
by either the time or the mileage, whatever it is,
and then you their dockless, so you just dropped them morever. Uh.
So my two problems are still their garris. I don't
like the looks at them, and be I think a
lot of people this is just anecdotally, aren't being safe
when they're riding on them. But I spent more time
researching this, and and I have since I no longer

(13:06):
have a car, and I'm not a scooter person, but
I do bike everywhere that I go, which is forced
me to spend a lot more time thinking about like
sidewalk and street infrastructure and Um, the problem with bird
scooters right now isn't that they exist, it's how people
are using them. But if we make them prevalent enough
and like and we use them safely, then we're going

(13:28):
to just build better bike lanes and scooter lanes. And
the one of the biggest issues we have in in
Los Angeles is not a lot of options for people
to commute. So I'm now in a place where, like
anytime I see something that provides more options for people
to get from point A to point B, I think
it's a good thing. And I normally hate the Silicon
Valley build first and regulate it later. I think that

(13:50):
is like inherent all their disruptive practices. But I'm fine
with it in this case because you can already see
Santa Monica is doing a lot in terms of regulating
these things. There are places where you can't use them,
like they don't want you to use them on the
beach because they want to discourage these as a tourist
activity and encourage them as three to four mile commute
activity where you're getting from place to place, And they're

(14:11):
strict about the amount of scooters that are allowed in
Santa Monica and they're strict about helmets and don't ride
it on the sidewalk and you need to have a license.
And I just feel like Santa Monica is because they're
so bougie ahead of the curve a little bit in
terms of where we want all of these scooters and
regulations to go. It's a little bit nerve racking because

(14:32):
there are people who are trying to put an idea
forward about let's just shut them down until we can
figure out how to regulate them, Like no, no, no no,
no no, because then people are gonna forget about them,
and like, let's let's just all focus on regulating them now,
because if scooters become a part of life in Los Angeles,
then we're gonna get better streets, better bike lanes, better sidewalks,
which is good for better ingredients, better pizza. I think, yeah,

(14:58):
I definitely see the and if it especially for people
who commute, because it's the amount of time you save,
like actually scoot ring, Like if you normally had to
walk a mile and a half or something, that time
is cut short. I guess, I think really, to me,
the biggest thing that I don't like is just the
way they leave them around and haven't quite figured out
how to like curb that from just being there are

(15:18):
people who fucking just left them, like in the middle
of like a like a residential street I was driving
on and I had to drive around fucking bird scooter
or whatever. That's the thing that I found about myself
the first time I was here, complained about how they
were all over the place and leaving the sidewalk unsafe.
And then I started reading this great series from Melissa
Walker and Curbed where she points out how a lot
of people will complain about these scooters and literally no

(15:41):
one moved them. And I was like, oh, yeah, sho it.
I guess that's me. And now, like when I see
a scooter in the sidewalk where it shouldn't be, I
put it up on the grass where I put it
somewhere that makes sense. Fort get you a point scooter debate,
It should get me. Yeah, I'm going to make a
little bit money. That's just what I mean. You already
are by you know, lobbying for them on our show. Yes,
hopefully that will lead to better infrastructure in the city
for sure. Yeah, I think I mean I heard it
described as they solve the last mile problem of public transportations,

(16:05):
Like there's in cities like Los Angeles that are spread out.
You know, once you get to your subway stop, you
still have a mile to go. Walking sucks. Uh, So
they make it easier to get there, and I agree
it can be. I think one thing that is underrated
is changing your mode of transport around a place. It'll
change the way you look and feel about your town.

(16:28):
Like just taking the subway or the metro in Los
Angeles a couple of times made me think differently about
Los Angeles. Uh. And Like when I lived in New
York City, the way that I conceived of the city
in general was just as these little islands around subway
stops right there. And once I had a car there

(16:48):
and could like connect them via driving, I was like,
what the funk is going on this? I had no
idea these things were close to each other. Um, so, yeah,
I think they're worth trying out. How how are we
dealing with helmets with them, you're just supposed to wear
a helmet, You're you're just supposed to carry a helmet around. Yeah,
the law requires you to have a helmet and a

(17:09):
driver's license and to ride them on the street and anecdotally,
you could see that almost no one that is not
happening in my neighborhood. I think there's one organization I'm
not sure which. If you get their scooters, they will
give you a free helmet. It's Bird Bird does that?
Well there you go. Uh finally, what is a myth?
With's something people think is true that you know to
be false, that the Olympics are good. I didn't even

(17:31):
realize until right now, how l A centric that all
this stuff is going to be alienating l A and
magician centric. We have the Olympics coming to Los Angeles
in two thousand and as much as there's a really
great argument to be had that places like Los Angeles
just infrastructurally are one of the only places that can
handle an Olympics. Like there's a lot of talk about

(17:53):
how if some random place gets the Olympics, they get
a lot of money up front, and then it end
up destroying their city long term. It just takes a
lot of time to recover because they build up all
the stuff they don't need. L A is one of
the few places on the planet that has a lot
of this stuff already and won't need to build too much. Uh. So,
on the one hand, it's a good thing that it's
coming to l A. On the other hand, it's just

(18:15):
going to speed up gentrification. And we can already see
that they're squeezing in new laws to outlaw homelessness, which
is a huge problem in this city. Are already and like,
I don't know where we're gonna put all these people
that we already don't have enough housing for. But it's
our our dumb mayor who wants to be fucking president.

(18:37):
One day. It was so important to him to get
an Olympics and then leave before it happened, So it
doesn't matter. He's gonna be able to say I brought
Olympics to Los Angeles and uh, mysteriously got rid of
a bunch of homeless people. So that's why you should
make me president. Yeah. It's never we're gonna build up
their infrastructure for like, uh, you know, a great new
subway system. It's always we're going to tear down these

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or neighborhoods and put a fucking genants soccer stadium in
the middle of it or whatever. I mean, there's a
whole no Olympics platform, a group of people in that
movement and yeah, Like it's true, like we have a
housing crisis. It would be one thing if they suggested
like a version of doing the Olympics that address those
problems first and be like, yes, we get what the
Olympics need to do. Let's let's first address those problems

(19:21):
and then maybe we can talk about having Olympics. But
it's like, no, it's gonna be great for businesses and uh,
you know, we'll just kick people out and push them
further out. So there was a there's like a PR
team that is like trying to win a bid or
like maybe the city is looking for different PR teams.
But the problem of trying to solve is how do
we get people who are visiting l A for the Olympics, Uh,

(19:41):
comfortable around homeless people in downtown? Like how do we
sell people on this? Which I guess is better than
like we're just gonna get rid of them, but it's
still like this is a strange thing to be thinking about.
It's like, well, maybe we can dress them up as
mascot and then that'll be better than how do we
feed the homeless people to the tourists? But it's not
it's not the ideal situation when you just help these

(20:03):
people get the help they need, or at least the
stability to be in work, because a lot of people
can work or can take them, but being homeless can
just restrict you from doing all those things like have
an address that you can tell people to send your
mail to, or these other things that you know that
they just sort of the knock on effect. Just once
the momentum it's going, it's very hard to get out of.
It's it's tough because there are our most vulnerable citizens

(20:25):
and we're doing the least to protect them, and the
Olympics is gonna set that back even further. Right. It's
very American to you know, send all the resources to
the richest people. And it's also what the Olympics does
in all countries. So like those two things coming together,
we're gonna all live in like Elysium pretty soon. I think, uh, yeah,

(20:46):
I've heard the idea thrown around to just find one
location and just place the Olympics there for good, And
I feel like that could be a cool solution because
you wouldn't funk with all these cities and just uped
all these actual lives, uh and you know, it would
give different corporations like the ability to like you know,

(21:09):
build out new technologies and ship because that is like
one of the cool things about the Olympics is they do,
you know, show the capabilities of new technologies. It's just
that a lot of the time now they're being used
to create like the most futuristic police state possible. So yeah, great,

(21:29):
great search history over under in myth Daniel. Yeah, I
feel good about this and now I can just sort
of check out. Um, so I wanted to talk about
I was listening to a podcast interviewing uh, this brilliant
woman who I hadn't heard of before Today's saying up
too fetchy, and she was talking about how inadequate our

(21:52):
language and touchstones are for sort of the new reality
that we live in. Like the novel War gets brought
up a lot, but we don't live in a reality
where that applies, or you know, we don't have like
a single source that is like cramming this single mediated
message down our throat. We live in a world where, uh,

(22:15):
it's just you know, the most interesting, saddest, most shocking,
most surprising things are the ones that get thrown in
our face. Um. And there's by like basically we choose
to do that. Um. There's also a article from a
guy named Jason Pargin on a site called cracked uh,

(22:39):
where he wrote about how Netflix he compared the thumbnails
that Netflix was giving him for you know, various shows
to the ones in his wife's account, and it's pretty
funny how different they are. And clearly Netflix thinks he
is a serial killer because it's like lots of pictures

(23:01):
of scantily clad women uh in danger. It seems like,
um alright. Because Netflix depends depending on your viewing habits,
they'll alter whatever the actual thumbnail is for each thing,
so like for one show for friends, you might see
a different character than another person. I was talking. I
was talking about how their movie that they made, the

(23:22):
rom com I think it's called like The Fix Up
or something, had the thumbnail with Pete Davidson even though
he's a minor character, and one of the zike getting
pointed out, actually that's just you who's a Pete Davidson fan.
That they were like this guy. Uh, and now all
of my thumbnails are Pete Davidson faces. Somehow, I think
I tried to make myself algorithm proof because I'm scared
of data in general. So the Netflix account that I have, uh,

(23:44):
it's my account, but also my parents use it, my
brother uses it, his kids use it, my former sister
in law uses it. And there's only one name attached
to so we all browses one person, and so it's
a sometime in high Sometimes it's annoying because they're like, hey,
do you want to watch a Boss Baby again? I don't.
You're like, all right, one more time. And I mean

(24:05):
the boobs thing seems like silly and basic, but we
do have like a whole group of people who think
they deserve sex from attractive women, like the in cell community,
and you know, they have sexy attractive women looking at
them longingly from images all day every day. It's more
like black mirror. I guess, um, But I think this

(24:26):
ties into Alex Jones because the thing you're seeing all
over the right wing media right now is people saying,
like the shutting down of Alex Jones is censorship, taking
Alex Jones off all these platforms, and you know, we're
all living in these realities that are mediated by algorithms.
There's like the three degrees of Alex Jones joke on

(24:47):
YouTube that any interest you start out with you're always
just three videos away from YouTube suggesting and Alex Jones
video to you or you were Um. So it's almost
like there's a new form of thought control that's not restrictive,
but like sort of just kind of bombards your attention,
like spends all your attention on versions of the message

(25:11):
that you know, like our greatest philosopher, Kim Kardashian said,
interesting to look at. So uh, yeah, I don't know.
He also got kicked off of you porn, so right,
and that's the latest stuff they banned from you porn
and Pinterest. So guys, I mean on Twitter, Twitter, uh,

(25:31):
and some Facebook pages. There's some infore stuff on there,
but yeah, but Pinterest was where the money was. Yeah,
it really was. I mean, when you're selling those neutra suticals. Um.
But yeah. She was talking about how like it's uh
with Russia in the two thousand and sixteen election, a
lot of people are thinking about Russians as like these
experts who are smart and knowledgeable about Americans, and she

(25:52):
said they actually started out focusing on California and Texas secession.
That was like the thing they thought they were going
to get him Erica to break apart around because that's
the sort of thing that happens in there part of
the world with like PRIMEA and like ship like that,
and just you know, they saw, based on you know,
just straightforward analytics, that fake stories about Hillary Clinton got

(26:14):
a lot more attention, and so that's what they used instead.
So I think they might not have realized that we
already have some dumb fucking third generation Silicon Valley billionaire
who's been trying to buy California into three different states,
right and he I think he's getting the help of
the Russians. Russians, and they just everyone was like they
get this ship off the ballot. Alright, sorry, try again

(26:35):
in a four more years. We'll be back. Anyways. I
wanted to bring this up, Dan because I expect you
to create our new vocabulary around all this ship. So
get to work, okay, cool after the break, yeah, said
us with some new words. All right, we'll be right back.

(27:03):
And we're back. And so, Miles, what's going on the pump?
I mean not much. You know, we all know Paul
Manafort is so guilty. Yeah, and you know, this is
what they all the lawyers call a documents case because
a lot of it has to do with a lot
of his fraudulent claims about his income and defrauding banks

(27:23):
and lying about his money and money laundering, etcetera, etcetera.
So there is clearly a mountain of evidence up against him,
but they just need a few witnesses just come through
and be like, yes, that it is what it looks like.
So yes. Cut to Rick Gates, who was Palm Manaforts
protege and his like right hand man when Paul Manafort
was running the Trump campaign and even stayed after Paul
Manafort left. Was a big figure on the Trump campaign.

(27:46):
He's the number two, and then I think took over
the Inauguration committee after after that. Um So, he took
the stand yesterday in the trial, and it essentially just
boiled down to this him going up on the stand
just saying, yes, Paul man of or and I committed crimes,
and I also helped him commit crimes, and also I
used to steal money from him. It was so refreshingly

(28:06):
plain spoken the way that didn't expect, like reading over transcripts,
you always assume someone be like, well, crimes are very
it's it's all encompassing. At the time, what I was
doing this. Guy was like, oh yeah, I woke up
and I looked at my schedule and it said crimes
with Paul, and then I did crimes with Paul and
then more criming at five Like yeah, because I mean,
as I've said on the show earlier, to like that.

(28:28):
They're like, there's there's plain email threads back to each
other where he's like, help me doctor this like PDF.
I can't do it in word and I need to
make it look like I make more money. And then
he sends it back and then Paul Manafort literally like
can you make this a PDF for me? The bank
needs it as a p and like it's just all there,
just like you know, so well, I've got you. Hotmail

(28:48):
is different right now. He's the way I like, and
I changed the picture that come. Why does my last
name come up before my first name? I don't like that.
So yeah, it was very easy time. And I guess
you know when you think about why it was clean
in terms of him when the prosecution was talking to
him or what do you call that? Uh that they
were a cross examining, a cross examining, thank you h that. Yeah,

(29:10):
he was just up there because he's he's got a
plea deal with Paul with Robert Mueller. Uh And it's
essentially you know, he's looking he was looking at ten
years for lying to the FBI and conspiracy against the
United States. Probably not a good thing you wanted your record. Uh.
And because he's cooperating, I think they're knocking it down.
But yeah, it's clear that he's just like, yes, whatever
you need so I don't have to go to jail

(29:31):
for ten years, I will tell you. Because the evidence
is so damning, they really allow them to bring out
like the c squad of lawyers come now, did you
do crimes? Yes? For the question. Yeah, it was like
it was almost like that. Uh. And you know, good
luck to Paul Manafort's defense team because I mean, you know,
there's a chance that maybe the jury could be convinced

(29:52):
that Rick Gates isn't reliable because he's also a criminal.
But I mean, like most cases where you have someone
snitch on the other person, you have to kind of
be like, well, he's pretty credible, like why he's doing it?
But yeah, I mean even if a lot of a
lot of pundits are saying like even if uh, Rick
Gates didn't take the stand. The fucking documents are just
all they're already so it's it's it was more just

(30:13):
for them to like really underline and underscore, like yeah,
these guys there, this is what they did. And again,
this is the guy who was in charge of the
inaugural committee for the president. He would he played a
big role. Like whether you believe that he uh anything
he says about Manafort, He's like, I do crimes. I
steal from every everyone, from my own body the worst.

(30:34):
I am bad um and people. Yeah, it's it's amazing
how far we've come in terms of like what we're
used to him, what we're just like dismissing, like this
is a you know, just weak, defining news story in
any other time, any other administration. The first Trump campaign
official who has in court admitted to committing crimes. We

(30:57):
you know, used to talk about like, wow, what if
this thing goes as deep as like water Gate? What
if this is our water Gate? This is like Watergate
is nothing compared to this guy, Morton Halperin, who was
like he was on Nixon's enemies list and he was
a you know, he helped write the Pentagon papers and
then served on Nixon's National Security Council staff and you know,

(31:21):
actually criticized him. He was like one of Nixon's like
Mueller's basically, And the New Yorker interviewed him and was like, so,
how do you think like this compares to Watergate? And
he was just immediately like, oh, Trump's way worse. He's
far worse than Nixon, certainly as a threat to the country,
which like you would totally expect him to be like,
you know, I stopped the worst person, but he's just like, no,

(31:44):
we do not hold a fucking ship. Yeah. Yeah. So
also I think, just for a timing perspective, because John
Lovett tweeted this this morning, if the Trump presidency is
a marathon, we have just passed mile ten. That's where
we're at. And Jack and I we've with run marathons. Yes,
we know there's quite a bit more after that, twenty
six point two miles. Uh, the last six miles are like,

(32:08):
you know, that's twenty miles. Yes, they really say that
in your brain the first twenty miles are only the
halfway point. Yeah. As as a fellow marathon or Daniel,
you would you would get that. I agree with that. Uh,
what was the marathon. Technically the distance between the town
of Marathon and like Athens, or isn't that why the
distance is twenty six point something like that. It was

(32:29):
something comes to mythology. Well, we don't only need to flex.
I was feeling good about my marathon. Dumb and small
because people always have those thirteen point one or twenty
six point two bumper stickers. I'm like the twenty six
point two so specific, like like when people like, yeah,
ire in a ten k or twenty five k or whatever,
like jerks t K Jack. We're driving and you see

(32:50):
someone with a thirteen point one sticker to you like
ram them a little bit all the time. Well, I
just feel entitled to cut them off because they're less
than me, right, They clearly don't want it this bad um. Hey,
speaking of numbers, transition hard pivot in the paint, there
is a Georgia precinct with a total of two hundred
and seventy six voters, and apparently six hundred and seventy

(33:13):
votes were cast in that precinct. A lot of go
getters there, and that was in the primaries in May.
It was a real head scratcher because yeah, like you
say in mud Creek. They're only two hundred seventy six
registered voters. Uh so that's about a two turnout. That's
pretty good. I mean, you know, the Democrats need that
kind of turnout absolutely at Russia, please help us. So

(33:36):
this is just further evidence that the Republicans are right
and that voter fraud is a big deal. These were
probably all illegals. Democrats chipped in. It was actually when
they when they looked down, it was all isis and
ms R teen voters. So yeah, and they wrote in
ms A lot of the residents of mud Creek were
like is it just me? Or there were like four

(33:57):
hundred new people here getting that bus. They're like, isn't that?
Isn't that Bills cousin that They're like, no with the
tear drop tattoo. But yeah, so again we're like, wait,
hold on, how the funk does this happen? And but
the thing is, Georgia is one of four states that
uses these voting machines uh statewide that produced no paper record,
so the voter cannot verify what they're like, how the

(34:20):
vote wasn't put or actually put into the machine. And
it's very difficult to audit because you just have to
go off whatever the information is coming digitally off of
the voter machine, and cybersecurity experts have like said repeatedly
that these voter systems were vulnerable enough for a person
just access voter data and even manipulate the data if
they wanted to, and so it just leads to like

(34:42):
all kinds of wild confusion that can essentially like lead
to just negating someone's vote completely or they're like they're
unable to vote because there's like the directions are so
crummy that they're told by the website to be at
one precinct and then they show up and they're like, no,
you have to be over here, and then they go.
It just caused a lot of confusions. Some of people
say they're like sworn statements of voters, saying one voter

(35:03):
explained that she and her husband, who are registered to
vote at the same address, were assigned different polling places
and different city council districts, and another there was a
voting machine that just froze on election day, and several
instances voters showed up their polling places as listed on
the Secretary of State's website, only to be told they
were supposed to vote elsewhere. So in Atlanta, voting machine

(35:24):
provided a Democrat with a voting ballot including the fifth
congressional district where John Lewis ran unopposed, instead of the
sixth Congressional district, which it was like a very competitive
Democratic race. So it's giving him a completely wrong ballot.
So there's a lot of there's just a lot of
funk ups that are going on, and people are saying, like, yo,
even if you just throw out the idea that it
could be Russian hacking or whatever, it's just fucked up

(35:46):
voting systems that need to be addressed either way. Uh.
And again when you look at the Secretary of State
of Georgia, uh, which a man named Brian Kemp. He's
running for governor right now. So he's been like, no, no,
everything's fine, like we've got it all worked out, because
I don't think it's good for you as a governor
to run on. Yeah. I oversee the you know, the
elections that are completely fucked up and screwed up all

(36:07):
the time and giving people problems. Uh So, yeah, this
isn't the first time that Dy've even come under scrutiny.
Like even Robert Mueller. His indictment indicated that Russians were
charged with hacking into democratic emails and visited county election
websites in Georgia, among other states. And there have been
a lot of white hat hackers who have just been
telling them like, hey, your machine suck and your voting

(36:28):
systems suck. Like I'm well, I'm not, I'm here to
do to tell you about the problems, not here to
actually sunk around in the systems, and like please, you
should do something about it. But you know, we'll see
what happens, because you know, there is a there's a
bipartisan group working on election security, but that is gonna
probably be more for the election than the mid terms
coming up in November. Yeah, there's a good five thirty

(36:50):
article where, uh, one of their writers sort of does
a timeline of the mid term election day what it
would look like if rush to successfully interferes. And it's
interesting because the way that they fuck with things is
not like, well, look, Republicans got a million votes and
Democrats got zero, Like we wouldn't know, it's just they

(37:12):
like this actually happened in the primaries in my district.
The voter rolls were fucked up, and so it created
long delays at the ballot, and so fewer people voted
in that district. And they knew, like, if Russia wanted
to funk with the outcome, they would make it so
that fewer people could yeah, confusion, and so that fewer

(37:34):
people could vote in a certain district where they knew
that Democrats were going to get a lot of the votes.
Although our president has already told us that they probably
want Democrats to win, so yeah, for sure, So we're
I mean again, and even if that's the case, then
why wouldn't you do something about it? Right if you
really have that fear, Like I mean, if you're gonna
try and explain a way the blue wave if it

(37:56):
comes and to say that, oh that's Russia, then it
would it would be whove you to be like, yeah,
we gotta we gotta buckle down on this thing. We
can't have them steal the you know, the house or whatever.
I mean. I mean, there's a chance he's just hedging
his bets again the same way that he did leading
into the first elections and everything was ragged, and now
it's saying Russia wants the Democrats to win. So if

(38:16):
the Democrats win, he can spend the rest of his
life saying, the Russians did that, and if they don't win,
he could spend the rest of his life saying, no
one thought I was gonna win. I had the media
and the Russians against me, and I still want because
I'm great. Isn't that right? But then on one side,
and he's like, but Russia, Russia loves me. Putin loves me,
but then they also don't want me, so like he
also he died, Like he says three different things simultaneous,

(38:39):
and you're like, wait, Pussia, Putin is the homie and
you're trying to work on good relationships. But he definitely
didn't want you to be president, although he literally said
in a press conference, yes, I wanted him to win,
So I don't whatever. Again, this is what this is
the world we're living and where we're like, yeah, what
I mean? Fucket? I mean, because we're not getting any
feedback that like, oh, yeah, you can't do this and
here are the consequences. We're just sort of like, I
you know, eventually Robert Mueller might figure it out and

(39:01):
then create a rich pressure. But you know, Republicans, y'all
can do something, but you won't. Yeah, So from the
sanctity of our democracy to the thing that people actually
get a startup. We are bringing in super producer On
Hosnier to tell us what happened last night in the
Bachelaurette finale. Oh, thank you so much for Howard Stern. Yeah,

(39:28):
by the way, is Howard Stern like pro Trump politically?
Now he's not alright, Sorry, he's probing annoying. Okay, so
hold on, Turner, Michael, I can't handle that. He's probing
uninteresting to look at. So here's the time for all
the people who are triggered by my bachelor stuff to

(39:49):
skip forward forty five minutes because that's right here. So
last night was the Bachelrette finale, and it really just
shows you where we are in America because the guy
who won was the one who had controversy for liking
a bunch of like really intense alterright memes, like stuff
like calling David Hogg a crisis actor, image of like

(40:13):
feminazis and then one of like a guy throwing a
little boy back over the border, like really like you're out,
yeah yeah, and like transphobic stuff and homophobic stuff. It
was just stuff like you have to follow a certain
type of account to like these to begin with. And
then of course someone out of him, probably someone who
followed him, because that's the only way you can see
what how people are liking if your friend keeps showing

(40:35):
up like like this, you know, so of course he
won naturally out of like, however, how many people do
they start with? And she narrowed name. His name is Garrett,
your Gary just right, the bachelor. I don't know how
to say his last name. Um, he's from Antica, California,

(40:56):
which is like a known red county in California. Send
to California. Yeah, so his politics clearly are problematic. And
the woman Becca, who is the bachelorette, known Hillary supporter,
like goes to all the women marches, got her pussy
hat flowing, you know, like out here, very outspoken about
her politics. So she ends up with this guy, and

(41:19):
when it came out, we hadn't known that he was
gonna win. When it came all this controversy came out.
And then she put out a statement being like you
really just got to watch the show to understand and
all this stuff. And he put out a statement being like,
my bad I didn't know. I'm a dum dumb. And
then and then as you watch the show, holy sh it,
he's a dum dumb. Like he the way he speaks,

(41:39):
he kind of talks like Forrest Gump, where he's like
I really like her and she like me. Like last
night he literally said, he was like you, you don't
even give me butterflies because they're small. You give me
eagles in my stomach, Like that's that's the level. Also
another point where they're trying to give me eagles, yes,

(42:03):
shout out to Philadelphia. And then he literally cried through
the whole episode, like he would start talking to a
family member of hers and he would just immediately just
start bawling, just be like just I don't know, I
feel legal feelings, like he couldn't handle it. Just still
make it so full of dragons dragons. And there was

(42:23):
a point when they were on a date last night
that they're on a boat. They're talking about because he
had just met her family. They're having a conversation. He's
been like, oh, you know, I talked to your sister.
I talked to you. Oh my god, dolphins, dolphins, and
the entire conversation pivots and they're just being like, dolphins,
did he say a problematic ship while he was on

(42:44):
the show. He doesn't say anything. He's like so dumb
that he's just like, yo, you don't even have an
opinion on anything. No, he's just being like, that's funny,
like that man is throwing that little man over a wall,
and look, the dolphins are doing flips. And also this
is incidental, but I think the kid should stay in case. Yeah,
and so, and you know he obviously he won the

(43:05):
other guy, which is it's heartbreaking because the other guy
he survived a school shooting. He survived a lot of
trauma from his childhood. So you know, there were jokes
being like, okay, so literally that guy is someone the
guy who one would call a crisis actor. The other
guy was the crisis actor he was, and then the
other man that one was the one that would call
the runner up a crisis actor. It's a whole lot

(43:28):
of my mouth got dry. I was talking too quick. Um,
so I don't know it kind of it shows a
lot what's wrong with what's going on with the casting
of the Bachelor. Like another guy gotta cute who was
on the show a contestant got accused of sexual harassment.

(43:50):
So this past season, this girl was given a whole
lot of ship heads. And you know another thing in
that after the rows, like after the show, they have
like this final after show where they bring all the
contestants on and talk. She basically says that she didn't
pick the runner up because she felt like he was
mentally unstable. And yes, on the show he was being

(44:12):
very like insecure naturally when you're like fighting for the
love of a woman who's in love with like other people,
and so he came off it's like, oh god, the
whole time and so on that after a human being
who's forced to be on some shitty dating exactly, who
is you know, just an emotional guy and and he's
coming off a really bad break up. You were saying, Yes,

(44:33):
he got broken up with and Dumpton apparently took that
very hard, where his mom had to really build him
back up because he felt so unlovable. But he also
survived a school shooting. He survived, He's a survivor. Yeah,
he survived an incident where his mom had an affair
with the coach at his school and he was on
the team and it was like a city like whatever
town scandal he survived, that survived the school shooting that

(44:56):
his mom and sister were both at because they were
both at the school, and then he got through this
and this girl, literally, Becca literally says like, you know,
I just don't know how you would react to like
a like a dead relative or like a sick child basically,
and it's like, you, bitch, did you speak the racist
and you're saying this mentally unstable? But did she know?
Did they address there like, yo, we know you're on

(45:18):
this end of the political spectrum. And then I'm sure
off the show you found out about this man? What's
the deal? What's good be? So finally he has to,
towards the end of the after show, he has to
address it, and he gives the most half as X.
He doesn't explain why he liked it, He doesn't explain
what his politics are. He just goes, I didn't understand
how people would take like a double tap like on Instagram.

(45:41):
And I'm learning, and I'm trying to grow and move
on from are not who I am. I'm darning His
apology here, and it is exactly the kind of apology
that we see a lot in modern times that I
absolutely hate. When I'm sorry to those who offended. I
take full responsibility for my legs, and I'm gonna learn
and I'm gonna grow. I need someone in there to
to jump in and be why don't you explain to

(46:01):
me why this is offensive? Though, because anytime someone does
something shitty and then it publicly was like, you're right,
I did this and I'm gonna take some time to
learn and grow. It's never good enough to me because
you could just disappear from public life for two weeks
and come back and be like, did it grew? I
need you to articulate why you think we're all mad
right now? I grew. I'm grown af After that, and
she kind of glossed over it as wall and she

(46:22):
was like, well, we're just continuing to have conversations as
to why that was bad, and that was it was
so like just glazed over. It fell flat for me.
I was like, okay, but why do you still like
that kind of stuff or like what made you? It
was like, I'm on the bachelorette, Okay, I need to
find somebody. The best I can do is Peppe the

(46:43):
frog over here, and then well that's what it felt
like like she's like, I don't know, I remember, but
last season I was dumped on National TV after being
picked and then my the guy who picked me went
back to the runner up, so you know, I really
need this. This is this the one he chased around
and he was like, oh are you mad at me?
And she's like, yo, leave me then alone want to
broke up with on TV after proposing to going back

(47:06):
to go back to the runner up. So there was
a lot going on there. So I don't know how
encyclopedic be as your knowledge of Bachelor and Bachelorette, it's
pretty deep fairly Okay, who's darva Congress? In general? What
are the success rate of these matches? Is it pretty
high or pretty super lower? It's low? Yeah, yeah, it's low.

(47:27):
I mean the unfortunate thing is because of Instagram and
social media, it's harder for these relationships to survive because
the genuineity it's not clear and people are just coming
on to like kind of have a presence on the
internet so they can, you know, sell sponsor ads on Instagram.
Like you don't know what people are really in it for.
If they're there to be famous, if they're actually there
to find love and it becomes a little bit more.

(47:50):
There's a lot of gray areas currently on the show
and a lot of very bad cast Yeah you know,
come on ABC, So yes, so I expect. I don't
really expect more from ABC, though, to be honest, the
unfortunate thing is if you did not get that information
about him, he's one of the most likable dudes. It's

(48:12):
so frustrating. It's a mind funk. We keep joking like,
god damn, he's the most likable racist I've ever seen
in my life. Like, we don't. If you didn't know
this background, you'd be like, oh, he's great because he's
just nice, he's sweet, he's just like her, like literally,
but he could just be one of these ignorant type people. Yeah,
where that's that's the hard But that's why it's like
you can't really immediately be like, well, he's just because

(48:33):
it sounds like he's just really stupid. That's that is
for sure. A known quality is he is dumb. Growing up,
all my friends like these frog memes. We didn't really
know what it meant. It was just a thing we did.
Right now, I'm on TV and everyone's mad at me.
We're just really we're just really bad at drawing plus signs,
and they ended up looking like that. It's just like dolphins.

(48:53):
He literally a dolphin just jumped up and he goes,
they're doing tricks for us. They're just dolphins like hanging out.
It's not for you, my friend. You think they're socialists.
Never mind, So that's what happened. But you know what, guys,
we're moving on to Bachelor in Paradise, one of the
greatest television shows. It's not a disaster, it's one of

(49:16):
the greatest things to ever happen in the world. That's
just where we watch Bachelorette and The Bachelor, so we
can finish our year off with Bachelor in Paradise. It's
a fucking ship show. Literally, everyone's on like on the
chopping block. Anything can happen because on the Bachelor Bacherette
they really protect the main person. They don't make them
look like a fool, to make them always look great.

(49:37):
The Bachelor in Paradise, you all fools. The editors will
have you crying and talking to fucking raccoons. Then he
gives a ship. Don't you like drunk like confessing to
an iguana that's how they just take it there and
they don't give a funk and you're all idiots and
I love it. Who is the premise? Is there a
single bachelor bachelor in Paradise? They yeah, it's a raccoon

(50:01):
try and fun. Yeah, they take all the cast offs
put them on this um like resort in um Mexico
that has very poor plumbing. And yeah, it's like they're
always like it smells like shit, and oh you know
why because they probably have septic systems. And the question
and the toilet paper down the thing and they tell

(50:22):
you you'll do the paper in little garbage. Can't because
we can't handle the ship. And don't get mad when
it starts backing up anyway. Yeah, so it's all stops
and then they all fall in love with each other basically,
and it's a ship show and it's a lot of fun.
They drink a lot. So what's the name of the
runner up from last night? What's his name? Blake? Blake,
shout out to you, man, I think I think Becca
did not choose you because it was coming from a

(50:45):
place of weakness. You know, you represent maybe some instability
or like, you know, having been broken up with you
have that part of your personality. And she got dumped
on national television, so she just didn't want to relive
at and be reminded. But that just that's just gonna
make you strong. I do want to say. Mental illness
is so stigmatized, it's not appropriate what she did to

(51:07):
be like that is not stable enough to handle. It's like,
just he survived all that, he survived your ship ass breakup.
You shouldn't even bring that up as your reasoning and
at all you should be like, you know it wasn't
gonna work. You shouldn't then go be like because you
look unstable. Blake. Incredibly brave of you to put yourself
out there in such a grand and dramatic ways on

(51:27):
your journey towards healing and growth. Blake, Blake, all right,
we're gonna take a quick break. Thank you so so much,
quick Blake, A man, We're gonna take out quick Blake,
and we'll be right back. And we're back. And uh,

(51:51):
we've got some bad news. Bad news for anybody who
was raised in the eighties and early nineties and you know,
was a fan of action films. Steven Seagal is no
longer on our team. Yeah, he fully he's gone to
the dark. So lost another good one. Uh. So you know,
we we've known that he's been flirting with Vladimir Putin
for a while, lad the Mirpole years. Uh and now

(52:15):
he is officially a Russian citizen. He's been a Russian citizen,
he became a resist citizen a while back, but now
he According to his Twitter and the Russian Embassy Twitter,
this is Steven Seagal's tweet from his day. I am
I'm deeply humbled and honored to have been appointed as
a Special Representative of the Russian Foreign Ministry in charge

(52:35):
of Russian and American humanitarian ties. I hope we can
strive for a peace, harmony and positive results in the world.
I take this honor very seriously. I am a gross
sex crime. Yeah. I think it was the part that
they didn't fit into characters. But yeah, he's a he's
got this special I guess title of humanitarian thie improver

(53:00):
up again. Look, when I think about people talking, you know,
they're always like, oh, the Russians, man, they're infiltrating. This
shows that America has fully entered the brains of Eastern
European autocrats because they are like in love with Steven Seagal,
Like they're like, this guy is the cool the guy
from under Siege. I hung out with him, and you're like, dude,

(53:20):
you're a fucking like Chechen strong man. You're like, yeah,
but he's cool, like he actually knows like all those
karate moves, like he could actually suck me up. But yeah,
like he's not. It's funny. He's always been powdering around
with Putin. Like Putin I think personally handed Steven Seagal
his Russian passport was like welcome to Russia. Uh, and
the prolific Jewish action hero. This isn't his first time

(53:42):
being around these autocrats, because yeah, there's the Rams and
catarrav and Czechnia. They hung out for a while, like
they were doing like you know, he's a huge mixed
martial arts fan, and Segal visited Chechnya and like they
were like even doing some dance moves or some cool
videos on Twitter of that. He even met up with
alex Yeah, Alexander Lukashenko, who's like the president of Belarus

(54:04):
who set kind of les a Rice in two thousand five,
called the last dictator in Europe. That guy gave Sigal
like a guided tour of some of Belarus' is like
state owned cooperative farms. Like, is that we got like
a giant ass carrot or a watermelon or something it
could be handed him some giant vegetable and he was like,
I take this very seriously. It was like a really bizarre,

(54:24):
exact same speech that he gave to hold this giant
baby sized carrot testament to all of your growth. Now
the guys are talking about Steven Segal the action here.
I mostly know him as the artist, the musician, guitar
right right, yeah, with usually there's electricity and lightning going
on behind him. Yeah, I mean, he's just that guy.

(54:45):
And the funny thing is he also went to Russia
once with Dana Roora Baker, who's a congressman down down
south in Slano Beach. I think, is it anyway who
is quite literally might be an actual Russian agent and
congressman at the same time, Like I forget. I think
is Kevin McCarthy last year who joked He's like, if
there's somebody who's probably getting paid by Russia, it's probably
Dana Robacker. And then now he's like, let's let's let's

(55:07):
keep that low. But Dania Robacker was the given that
he's being paid by Puttin, he was like, I mean,
he was making the point that Trump might also be
getting paid by He was like, I mean, if there's
a second person who's being paid by by Puttin besides
Dana Roorbacker, probably Trump. It makes me feel like there's
a position open in Russia for like modern pop cultural

(55:29):
guide for because because clearly no one's in Putin's here
about this. He's like, we've got Steven Seagal and then
they were like, have you seen the raid? We got
like way way cooler people right now, Like nobody follows,
and he's like, Mr Puttin, you know, Keanu Reeves is
actually having a research as a really cool action hero.

(55:50):
No him, but yeah, And there's the quote Roora Baker
talks about going to Russia with Steven Seagal and he says,
because of his black belt in karate and thing, he's
gotten to know a number of important people in Russia,
including Putin, and he was able to use that influence
to make sure we got to talk to the very
top people. So it's they are so star struck by

(56:11):
Steven Seagal over there that's I'm like, yo, you know what,
we still we still got mind control of them. They're
still into these eighties films and thinks Steven Seagal is like,
this is what we're going to get, right. I feel
like we could also buy back Steven Seagal for our
side with an under siege three oh yes, or it's
like this time it's a plane. That's fine, okay, I'll switch.
I'm an American patriot again. So speaking of action movies, guys,

(56:34):
they a journalist used Foyer request to get a list
of four and ten of the movies that were made
under direct influence of the Department of Defense. What would
that mean if they under the direct influence script approval? Uh,
you know, just giving notes Essentially. It's not like they're like, hey,

(56:54):
we've got a can you read on our script really quick?
Goes to Fox right, No, but it's basically Fox goes
to the Pentagon and says, hey, we want aircraft carriers
in this movie. You are the only ones with aircraft
carriers in the universe. Can we use your aircraft carriers?
And the Pentagon is like, okay, let's take a look
at the script. Okay, we have some note we have

(57:16):
some notes and uh, some of the titles are pretty expected,
like all the Jack Ryan movies with Harrison Ford and
Ben Affleck and uh some of all Years a Red Dawn,
which is pretty clearly just straightforward American propaganda from the
Cold War. But there's some I don't know, some that

(57:38):
I I did not see coming, like Pet Cemetery and
The Perfect Storm. Now, is there an aircraft carrier in
Pets the Last Action Hero I don't remember there being
an aircraft carrier in them. No, But so it's I
don't know, maybe they needed guns and that's a cheap
way to get the guns from it. Yeah, but there
are plenty of gun wranglers that work in the industry

(58:00):
that have all that stuff for you to use, like
unless it's something I'm even then, like it wouldn't be
for props like they have, like the studios have full
on prop departments for that. I don't know. Pet Cemetery
like to keep people in fear of like a Native Americans.
Oh interesting, like you'd be like, yeah, you know Native
American burial ground. They're like keep that narrative going. Good thing,
we got rid. Yeah, that's what our pets would be

(58:24):
coming back from the dead, perfect storm. I mean, I
think that's just a good, uh, good old fashioned ad
for gloss to mass. Maybe the coast Guard shows up
and they needed some coast Oh yeah, they get saved,
don't they. They don't get they died. But I'm sure
that big way. I'm sure there are scenes with the
coast Guard. Yeah, yeah, they're fucked um. Yeah. And the

(58:50):
article makes a good point that you know, we scoff
at the idea of like North Korean propaganda, and we
do frequently. Yes, we we were just doing it off air,
you guys just but you know propaganda foreign countries where
they like pushed their junkie propaganda on you know, unwilling audiences,

(59:10):
and you know people who are just like this ship again,
it's another movie where uh, the deer leader like breaks
people's knees backwards or whatever. But we're like the country
where we where people actively solicit and consume our government's
war propaganda, like we demand it and they give it

(59:31):
to us. Uh So I don't know why I made
that all sexy, but we do it and they gave it.
Well why Star Trek Resurrection, Star Trek four and Star
Trek Resurrection. But no other Star Trek movie. That must
have been someone high up with the Pentagon. It's just like,
I got to read that script before it comes out,
Like Huge Treky. Johnny Depp's movie, the story in which

(59:55):
he is solving the murder of Notorious b I G.
Has been shelved in. Definitely, it's been pulled out of
It was supposed to be coming out in a month
that released a trailer. It was baffling, like it wasn't clear.
It just seemed like it was. It was almost like
l a confidential set against the backdrop of the Notorious

(01:00:17):
b I G s murder um and then a Rolling
Stone profile that we talked about on this show made
him look like a reclusive racist. Uh. There's also you know,
people have kind of turned on him after the revelation
that he was abusive to Amber heard when they were married,

(01:00:39):
and now the studios pulled that movie. Yeah, well, you
know he's not He's not the hot property that he was.
His stock has plummeted and and a lot of people
were like, how the fund is this guy still surviving
all these controvers especially like with the Harry Potter Universe films,
The Fantastic Beast things. Was funny because they were supposed

(01:00:59):
to do panels at comic Con, and rather than subjecting
him to the possibility of having to answer questions about
being fucking Johnny Depp, they were like, you know what,
let's just have you do a couple uh in character appearances.
That way you can just be some guy who totally
doesn't know of this man depth. They speak so funny that, like, here,

(01:01:22):
let's soften your image by having you be proto Voldemort,
the ultimate evil that needs to be destroyed. I think
you are pretty off putting right now, but the kids
are gonna love this. But just come in character as
this other evil far I know not of the spouse abuse.
What's a spell to forget stuff? I've never seen a

(01:01:42):
Harry Potter thing, but they would be like it would
have been a really great drop right now though, Yeah amnesius,
Yeah that sounds right. Yeah, there we go, just make
something sound like a Latin word. I feel like that
stupid nerds should you dorks all like as you crying
to hear your Harry Potter? But yeah he just yeah
he's God again. I'm well, I'm surprised that they were

(01:02:06):
still hanging on to him. With that fantastic past, because
even J. K Rowling was like, well, he's an adult
and they handled that. So that's that. And everyone's like,
especially because that's such an easy fix, it's really really
easy to just like Grundwald looks like this. Now he
doesn't look like Johnny Depp anymore, because we already know
that he can change forms. He's done it, so just
be like, look, it's it's Paula. He seems pretty harmless, right,

(01:02:36):
Christopher Plumber maybe yeah, right exactly, He's like, a please,
I can't keep doing this. Guy doesn't need to read
a script for the rest of his life. He just
needs to wait for the other dominoes to fall and
they call him. Uh and finally Movie Pass four one
out to movie Pass guys. Yeah they really they hit
a wall. Yeah they so, after running out of money

(01:02:57):
a couple of weeks ago, they have now downgraded their
unlimited movie pass, which was the whole idea of the
whole business model was you can see all the movies
you want. You can just if you don't have a
place to go, you can just hang out in movie
theaters for the day. Essentially, now you get to see

(01:03:18):
three movies a month, hot damn three moving pictures, three
whole movies. But the funny thing, but they're also like
blacking out popular movies, so like, yeah, mission impossible. You're
gonna have to wait on that one. I mean, it's
a shame because there was a way to do this
business model better. When I grew up, we had like
the main movie theater, and we also had the two

(01:03:39):
dollar movie theater, which is a worse theater and you
get the movies way later, but it's two dollars. If
movie passages come out and it was like unlimited movies
one month after their release, that's a business model that
could sustain for I think a very long time. The
fact that right out the gate they were saying unlimited
movies and everyone in the world was allowed to get it.

(01:03:59):
And it's like, yeah, you're gonna make this thing that's
too good to be true because it's not true, and
then you're gonna have to scale it back and people
are gonna be mad when you're scaling it back. But
if you start small, it seems like you have a
lot of room for this to be a reasonable business model,
right if you if you didn't view yourself as like
the next Netflix, which every statement from the CEO, Mitchlow
is just him being like, well, you see, I mean

(01:04:21):
as Netflix, U sometimes you can't see a certain movie
on Netflix. That's how we are. And it's like now
you're not. You are maybe a movie version of Group
On or something like. Yeah. And his quotes are amazing
because like, there after they announced that they went from
unlimited to three them not even one a week, he

(01:04:43):
was saying it's like, you know, it's not going to
affect their users, and quote, they will not be affected
at all by this program, and even better, they'll stop
hearing movie passes going out of business and that's their
top concern. Yeah, because I'm like, oh god, the thing
that I hate about having a movie pass is here
about how's going to go out of business? It's not
because when I show up, I can't see the movie
that I was promised by paying into the fucking service.

(01:05:05):
So hey, the guy understands his audience. Yeah, if there's
one thing they hit, it's bad press about movie ress. Well,
and then I guess, but that makes sense because he
also went on to say that like of movie pass
users see three or fewer movies a month, So I
guess it won't totally affect it there only I guess,
like the real rabid movie past, people are paying like
you know, it's on. But that's why the AMC one

(01:05:28):
looks good though too. You know, three movies fucking weak
and boom you the chances are with the way that
they have a fucking stranglehold on on theaters. Now you've
lived by an AMC. Yeah, and I think that the
idea is that it's cool to be able to see
more than three. It's it's cool to have the unlimited thing.
Of course, for for the movie pass users, I think

(01:05:50):
that was a big part of the attraction. So oh yeah,
because in my mind, I'm like, wait to potentially see
four hundred dollars worth, like that's a deal, but in
my mind like three a month, even though it's clearly
less than the ticket. Uh. People are saying it might
be sort of the napster of the movie ticket buying

(01:06:12):
experience where this is gonna clearly go out of business
because Mitch Lowe, uh, you know, had a high opinion
of himself. But this is going to change how people
buy movie tickets coming forward. You've given people a taste
of this thing, and they want it and someone else
will figure out how to do it, do it the
right way. They're like, okay, so they clearly fuck that up,
so let's just do this alright. Well, Daniel, it's been

(01:06:34):
a pleasure having you. It's always really really flies by.
Where can I Where can people find you? Who cares?
Just a search around the UM, I guess I can
plug launching a brand new podcast not on this network
wants to check out, launching next week, I believe, for
the week after. It's called Quick Question with Sore And
and Daniel. It's hosted by me and Sore and Booie.

(01:06:57):
We ask each other questions and we answered them. You
can follows her q Q Underscore Sore and and Dan
or Instagram Jesus Fucking Christ Q underscore with Underscore, Sore
and Underscore and Underscore Daniel. Yes, this was set up
by our mutual friend and former co worker, Michael Schrauer.
Michael blame him for the worst Instagram handle anyone has

(01:07:20):
ever shot. Yeah, I went to high school with him. Uh,
what do you call him? Bacon? Right? Bacon? I was
trying to refer like reference him in that name, and
I was like, yeah, and and butter right, it's like
what bacon. I'm like, man, when I knew him, he
was stre old butter Bean. He doesn't want his last
name to be using our podcast, so it's all bacon

(01:07:40):
and sometimes business Daddy. Well, holler at me if you
want some picks of him on the Notre Dame high
school basketball team, I will embarrassing photos. Wait, he was
on the Notre Dame basketball team on my high school.
Oh fight, he ain't the fighting Irish man. Their podcast
has a CFO. We gotta get to work. Yeah, Daniel,
is there a tweet that you've been enjoying by any chance? Yeah, well,

(01:08:03):
there's there's two. There's one recurring thing. I wish I
knew who was the first person to make this observation.
But so many people on Twitter will be like, man
of work, going here is sort of like the prisoner
for Askabad and going here, and someone will quote quote
tweet that with I am begging you please read another
fucking book because so many people are comparing things to
Harry Potter and just I'm part of the exhausted army

(01:08:25):
of people who are just like that's enough, let it go,
like stop reaching um. But a more specific tweet that
I loved um. This is from someone named at sort
of bad uh and it's brackets takes exactly one puff
of drugs and brackets. What if all of jay Z's
problems for lift balloons? Miles Jack, where can people find you?

(01:08:50):
You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles
of Gray and a tweet that I am fucking with
right now us from last one of last week's guest,
Dave Ross at Dave le Ross, and he said postmates
should be called comedians and cars getting coffee. I've got
a comedian dating cards joke too, so I've got a

(01:09:12):
I've got a couple of tweets. Oh no, she twittn't
tweeted Info Wars wasn't even really banned from anywhere. It's
all hoax and Alex Jones is a crisis actor. Katie
Carresik tweeted I've literally never met a man who was
not named Matt and Rody my goth name is Devoid

(01:09:33):
is currently his Twitter handle. Rody Reid tweeted hurt people,
hurt people in cars getting coffee, which I loved. You
can follow me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. You
can follow us at Daily's like guys on Twitter, where
at the Daily's like used on Instagram. We have a
Facebook fan page and a website, Daily I guess dot

(01:09:54):
com where we post our episode. You can also find
our foot on the descript on iTunes of our podcast,
so we'rewhere super accessible. That's where we link off to
the information that we talked about in today's episode, as
well as the song that we ride out on miles
What does that kind of oh today, I'm just really

(01:10:16):
I'm feeling like a nice Kruiverer type five, like well,
I'm normally I am nine the songs that recommended like that.
But this is a track from the Homies from Canada,
Bad Bad, Not Good, really great band. Uh. This one's
called Bookie number sixty nine. And yeah, they're just very
talented musicians, young guys playing you know, they're like jazz dudes,
but they're they're making it work, they're making it funky.

(01:10:36):
And they also have an album with ghost Face Killer
that's pretty good too. So check out this one, My Bad, Bad,
not Good. What's the album with ghost Uh? If you
just searched bad, Bad, not Good with ghost Face, it
will come up. Alright, come bay, all right, we're gonna
write out on that we will be back tomorrow because
it is a daily podcast. We'll talk to you guys then. Bye. B.

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