December 12, 2018 • 58 mins
In episode 292, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Sara Schaefer to discuss Nicki Minaj defending another sex offender, the business of location based tracking, Trump's showdown with Nancy Pelosi over the border wall, deaths that have occurred at Airbnb's, and more!
FOOTNOTES:
1. Nicki Minaj Defends Another Sex Offender. This One Happens to Be Her Boyfriend
2. Your Apps Know Where You Were Last Night, and They’re Not Keeping It Secret
3. Trump Makes Misleading Border Wall Claims Before Meeting With Democrats
4. Pelosi, Schumer to meet with Trump, offer $1.3 billion for border as shutdown looms
5. Trump says he’s ‘proud’ to shut down government during fight with Pelosi and Schumer
6.No, Donald Trump can’t just use Pentagon money for his border wall
7. House Minority Leader Pelosi to President Trump on vote for border wall in the House
9. Sen. Schumer: "When the president brags that he won North Dakota and Indiana, he's in real trouble."
10. WATCH: Fox legal analyst says he can’t imagine Trump not being indicted
11. ‘A Simple Private Transaction’: Trump Lays Out a Defense in a Campaign-Finance Case
12. Deaths at Airbnb rentals put spotlight on safety and security
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello the Internet, and welcome to season sixty one, Episode
three of DIR Daily's Eight Guys, the podcast where we
take a deep dive into America's share consciousness using the headlines,
box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending on Google and
social media. It's Wednesday, Decever twelve, two th team. My
name is Jack O'Brien a k. Even the sun goes down,
(00:23):
Heroes eventually die, horoscopes often lie, and sometimes why nothing
is for sure? Nothing is for certain, nothing last forever,
but until they closed the curtain. It's him and on,
Jack O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to joined as always by
my co host Mr Miles. Yes, thank you. No singing
a KA today, I'm just calling myself Mr ten K. Gray,
(00:46):
thank you for getting me to ten thousand Twitter followers.
I now have a millennial savings account, as that one
Twitter said, So if I have bills, I'll reach out
to y'all for a quick thing. I know, Sarah, you
have like eighty four thousand. Uh, Jack is like thirties
something thousands. So it's nice to be in the one
comic club or five figure club or followers also a
(01:07):
k a a smock weed every days whatever the fund
That weird tweet was about, and myka was courtesy at
ruth O eight on mine was from Andrew Hillary. We're
throwed to be joined in our third seat by the
hilarious comedians Sarah Shaper. What's up you know? Welcome back,
(01:30):
Thank you, it's great to be back. It's great to
have you back. What have you been up? Oh, I've
been deep into a writing a book. Whoa, it is
ruining my life. What's the book about? If we can,
it's a memoir. I don't recommend it doing that going
into the recesses. I wrote. Um. I got the book
(01:52):
deal like a year ago. I wrote the first draft,
turned it in in June, and then two months went
by and I got a letter back from the editor.
It's called an editorial letter, which basically was like no,
I mean, it wasn't like that. I mean, there were
things they liked, but it was like, you need to
start over. I guess I'm not the gift of a
(02:13):
memoir writer that I thought I was. UM, but I
was very upset at first, and then I took a
few months to dig deeper and really think harder about it,
and they were right. I needed it to be a
better story instead of just like throwing everything at the wall.
That sounds like a terrible a couple of months, the
(02:34):
couple of months where you were digging deeper. Oh, I'm
still in that mode, like where I'm reading every because
I'm I'm someone who collects things from the past, and um,
I'm reading every journal entry I've ever had, touching everything
and finding, you know, because a lot of the book
has to do with my mom, and so I found
(02:56):
her journals, reading all of her journals and just really,
I mean, I'm just I'm ready to put it all
back in metaphorically and physically. I'm ready to put it
all back in a box and put it away and
not think about the past for so much of my life, right,
it sound like getting audited by reality. I feel like
(03:17):
I'm this at the end of this process, I'm gonna
I mean, I am in therapy, but this is like
an intense like examination of my life and most of
it won't even end up in the book. But I
just I'm looking for all those little details that make
a book more vibrant to read, like oh the what
was the well? Because I was like, oh, I forgot
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everything in my life. That's what I felt like at first,
and then once you start reading things, you're like, oh, yeah,
I remember that whole thing, or like you know, just
the color of the wall paper and the kitchen. You know,
things like that pop back upies very strong. Imin't even
like going back through when I'm like doing taxes at
the end of the year, expenses at the end of
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the year, just going through my credit and I'm just like,
whoa that remember that. Yeah, I've been in a box.
Spent eight thousand dollars at ari e I. It's very
easy to do, very easy to do because fucking long
underwears like a hundred bucks. I was fucked up over
that anyway. If you see footage of me arguing with
(04:21):
somebody at r I, it was because I believe that
long John should not be a hundred dollars. Yes, but
they when they quick dry material. Patagonia, Yeah, it's nice
and get way, but at least they give their like
a pretty woke company, so like they even took their
tax breaks and I think we're donating it to some
environmental fund. I don't know. Yeah, patagon yea, they need
(04:43):
more positive publicity. We're gonna get to know you a
little bit better in a moment, Sarah. But first we're
gonna take our listeners through what we're talking about today.
We're gonna talk about how location based tracking is already
an enormous business. Your location is already a twenty one
billion dollar business. We're gonna talk about St. Nicki Minach
(05:05):
patron saint of sex Crims. We're gonna talk about the
meeting yesterday between Trump and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer,
how that went, and just about his demands that the
world to pay for his border wall. Uh. And we're
gonna talk about that Nazi piece of ship getting four
(05:26):
d and nineteen years for killing others. Life plus Life
and Maria Bettina and other things. But first, Sarah, what
is something from your search history that is revealing about
who you are? Um? So looked checked dead right before
I came in here, and Uh, I was like, could
it couldn't be more perfect? Tutor dollhouse. So I got
(05:52):
my old part of my research into myself as I
got a bunch of stuff from my house from growing up,
and I brought it to l A. And one of
the things was my old dollhouse, which is tutor style
in its architecture. It's really beat up. And I was
going to give it to a friend and let her
fix it up for her daughter. I don't have kids,
(06:13):
and she was like, it's too big for our space.
I mean, it's like a huge dollhouse. It's like three
ft high, it's three floors. It's beautiful. Um, and I
decided I'm going to flip this dollhouse. I'm goners, I
can't wait. I'm gonna like put it on my Instagram
and make it like a series of me flipping this dollhouse.
I can't wait. I started looking up paint colors and like, yeah,
(06:38):
I'm going to redo the bathroom floor with teeth. Yes,
I need to kill a few people first. That part
I haven't figured out yet, but I'll get it done. Um.
You surprised you got a lot of dentist's office people.
That is an industry. Cash for gold. People will take
the dentist's teeth, hook it up, get out of are
(07:00):
supposed to. That is disgusted. I mean, just teeth are gross,
But I would the idea of you doing a dollhouse
is one of the greatest things. It's me and if
you know me. This is like the most on brand
thing that I collect miniatures, anything mini. And I have
a little shelf in my several shelves in my apartment
(07:22):
of just mini stuff. A lot of it is from
my dollhouse growing up, like a little dishes and things
from the dollhouse. Also collect like miniature animal figurines and
anything tiny. Um and uh yeah, so I have all
my dollhouse furniture from growing up, and a lot of
it's really nice. It was like a hobby of mine.
I would like save my money and then go to
this place called the American Store, which is like a
hobby store, and I would buy the nice dollhouse furniture
(07:46):
from there. You know, are you going to redo the
inside the core like mid century maybe a Tutor exterior,
but the interiors yea. So I was like, it's not
like a trendy architecture, it's not mid century model. Um,
but I did look like Tutor, like modern how to
modernize the look of the outside that doesn't look so
like old English? You know? Um, but it's gonna I know,
(08:09):
And there was I was reading a whole website about
like just in general about Tutor, Like if you try
to modernize and make the colors more like neutral. But
it's like against the original plan, dark and light, brown
and cream color. Light should enter this house passing through
at least. But I'm gonna single window. Yeah, I gotta
(08:30):
shingle the roof. It's going to be great. I might
put electricity into it. You can like wire it and
put lighting. I hope that this ends up you being
a full on like construction like flipping real houses. You're like, well,
I did the ministure version. Yeah, I can do this.
Have you ever been to Gulliver's Gate, the giant like
Manhattan scale model. I haven't because it I think it
(08:51):
came after I, after you left me. Yeah, but I
have been in the Chicago Museum of Art or whatever.
They're big. That big museum is for Ferres Bieler and
the rent Um in the basement. We walked in and
my boyfriend was like, oh my god, Sarah, look it
was a sign. It was like miniature collection down the
stairs and I was like, and it was all dollhouse
(09:14):
rooms up against the wall like you looked in through
a window into a perfectly They had light coming in
from the I took pictures of them, and you can't
tell that their miniature the picture. I mean, they're so
it's so beautifully done. I was like I just had
like full body goose bumps going through that room. Well,
I hope, I hope that this story ends with you
(09:34):
looking at it and go, I can't give this up. Well,
I know that's the thing. I'm like where I know
I'm gonna want to keep it, But where the hell
am I? It's really there's no room in my house
for it, you know, So you need a reality show
about miniatures, because miniatures like totally capture the imagination. Like
I haven't seen it. I'm going to a miniature convention next,
(09:55):
like decided left Ober. It's weird because even if you
say that, I'm I'm just like when I think of
about him, like, yeah, I like little versions of stuff. Yeah,
I always wanted, Like because I don't have enough money
for a proper beams chair, I'm like, we'll get the
minute for now. I look at that in then make full,
fully functioning, you know, pieces of furniture like a dining
room table that stands and puts a leaf in. I mean, yeah,
(10:18):
people make stuff. That's just the people who do it
are just incredible artists on Instagram that saw the Francis
Glessner Lee collection. You know her she basically built all
these miniatures of actual murder scenes like like and that
was used to train detectives back in the day. Well,
you know the movie Hereditary, Um, the New Hormone. Oh
(10:38):
my god, it came. I didn't know all. I knew
it was a scary movie, and I love scary movies.
And the previouws looked really good. And in the first
scene she's making a dollhouse and my boyfriend was like,
he looked at my face. I was like, like, he
was like, this is the best. I mean, it was
an incredible doll houses. Shout out to dollhouse having a
(10:59):
bigger Yeah, creepy. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? Okay,
regular size? This is really old And maybe this is
why I think it's overrated because it took me so
long to read it. But the book Eat Pray Love.
I finally read it and because a lot of people
(11:21):
had told me, like I got divorced and they were like,
you have to read Eat Pray Love. It's basically your life.
I'm like, I didn't go to Italy or India, like
and I listened to the audio book and I was like, gosh,
I don't know if this book would play today because
it's a little bit of a white lady going on
a journey into other cultures and sort of yeah, there's
(11:46):
it's a very she I thought it was, you know,
it was well written, but it wasn't what I thought
it was going to be. And it was like I
was like, oh, this is a little too you know,
fluff for me. But but there was in the audio
book she's like doing void the accents of the characters,
like is you must come to see me? And I'm like,
(12:06):
I don't know if that would play. She did it
very well. Wait was it the author? The author? Yeah? Yeah,
And I was a little like, I don't know, I
don't know it just it's an interesting book that I
don't know how it would be received. The same book
just about like you know, white people going on, you know,
using other cultures to like find themselves. Yeah. So but she,
(12:29):
you know, I thought she offered none of it was egregious,
but it was just a little bit like, yeah, I
tried to do an infinite jest as an audiobook and
I only made it like two and a half months in.
But the voices, there's like all these like voices, like
ethnic voices that the guy does and it's just really
really not Okay, it's weird. Yeah. Yeah. The one thing
(12:52):
I like about Elizabeth Gilbert, she gave a Ted talk
awhile back. Was really good on the idea of like
creative genius and sort of how our definition of a
genius has evolved over time. Very interesting, uh discussion for
people who are in the creative field. I'll have to
check it out, but I've not seen any probably or
read it, but it felt like, yeah, one of those
books at the time to like this is the this
(13:13):
is the Bible. It was very zigeisty. Yeah yeah, what
is something you think is underrated? Okay, this was really
hard for me. I don't. This is not underrated. It's
like one of the top things of the year that
everyone agrees is great. What's underrated? This is not. It's
not underrated, but it's just something I really love. I
guess I can say it's underrated because books in general
(13:34):
are underrated, but the book I just also an audio
book because I do a lot of travel and I
listened to books while I'm d doing long drives and
the book Educated m Um underrated in my world forgetting um.
The name of the woman who wrote it already? Is
it Educated a memoir? Yes by Tara West, Yes, Tastever,
(13:56):
it's a bottle woman who grew up in a survivor
the List sort of doomsday family um in the in
rural Idaho, and she never went to school. She learned
how to read and write just rudimentary and then like
(14:17):
studied for the A. C. T. I don't want to
spoil it too much, but she got herself into college
based on a lie essentially and showed up to college
not knowing anything, like not having of education aside from like,
I know how to whittle ship. She could like pick
apart scrap metal with her dad, who believed the end
of the world was coming and who believed everything the
(14:38):
Illuminati and everything was like, it is so good, It's
so beautifully written. It is. She had an actress or
a voice of our artists to the audiobook, and the
person who did it was just really really good at
the different voices and everything, and it was just I'll
get I just it's not really giving anythingway. But the
one scene that I was like, holy I mean, there's
(15:00):
so many holy ship moments in this book. But she's
in a class and her first semester of college, and
there's it's an art class and there's some picture and
she's like, she like, didn't understand something. You asked a
question and people were like looking at her, like what
are you crazy? And the professor was like very funny,
and she she didn't know. She's like, I know that
(15:22):
I'm a freak, but I don't know why they know
I am. I don't know what I just said. So
she finds out the picture or whatever she was referring
to was the hollow. She didn't know what the word
Holocaust meant. I think that's what it was. She had
never heard of the Holocaust, and like people were like
thinking she was just being a total I don't know
(15:44):
what that know. I I mean, just you know stuff
like that, like I and and just the oh man,
it's just all of it a relationship with her, there's
so much more to it that that's just the tip
of the iceberg of this, just the pitch of someone
who was raised as Domesday prepper goes to college and
lies they have actually no like functional education in that sense.
Of like history of these other things that yeah, sort
(16:05):
of she ends up going and getting like a full
ride to Cambridge for It's I with honors. That's definitely
blast from the past, Underground bunker vibe. And finally, what
is a myth? What's something people think it is true?
(16:26):
You know to be false? Oh, this is when I
love telling people because I read something and that it
changed my life in a real practical way, which was
there was a point where I decided, Oh, I'm just old.
Now I have to pee in the middle of the night.
Mm hmmm, Um, you don't. Yeah, you don't have to
pee in the middle Someone has brought this up before. No, no,
but this is something I think about. So you don't
have to pee in the middle of the night. You
(16:47):
can actually sleep through the night. It's you think you're
being woken up by the need to pee, but you
probably were just woken up by something else or disrupted
sleep in some way. And if you just go back
to sleep, you don't have to get up and pee. Um,
you can hold it. Your body can hold it till
the morning. Now something. I think There are exceptions where
(17:08):
it's like when you wait, when you have a dream
that you're peeing your pants. You up and you're like,
it's like an emergency. But I since I read that,
I tried it, and I have not gotten up to
pee in the middle of the night for years. Wow,
that's I didn't know that because what I started doing
was drinking less before I go to sleep. And I
was like, I do that. I'm like backloading all my
(17:28):
hydration like at the end of the day or like
I get home, like I drink a lot of water
and stuff. It does. And then I was like, oh,
maybe I'm just filling up too soon, which is making
me want to relieve myself in the middle of the night. Yeah.
I mean I try not to like over drink right
before I go to bed because I don't want to
even be bothered by that feeling even in the morning. Yeah.
(17:49):
But yeah, you don't have to pee, just go back
to back because once you get up, now you've disrupted.
Now you're really awake and like it's going to take
longer to get back to sleep. Now you've really disrupted
your sleep in a more significant way, right And if yeah,
because I was like, well, man, see if I pee,
I'll go back that's right, because I'll use that logical. Yeah,
so if you just tell yourself you don't have to pee,
(18:11):
you just woke up, because you just woke up, it's okay,
go back right, go right back, go right back to
sleep the bed. It totally fused with my perception. Yeah.
I found out that there's like medication you can take
that just basically makes it so you don't sense that
you have to pee, and like you can just go
like they get it, pe your pants. No, you just
you can just hold it way longer than you think.
(18:32):
It's just yeah, I mean some of it is meant.
I mean, I'm obviously I would not recommend this as
someone who's like like bladder infection are like a prostate
issue or something like where they really do have to
pee all the time. I don't want you to pe
your bed. Yeah, if you suddenly you've now convinced yourself
I have to pee in the middle of the night
all the time and you didn't before, maybe that's psychological,
(18:55):
like yawning, like I feel like you can psych yourself
out of out having to pay too much. Maybe because yeah,
like surgeons take that medication. That's how I found it out,
was surgeons take it if they have a long surgeony,
I don't want to. They just I feel like if
you're a surgeon, that's like the one job you can
be yourself and no one can give you ship. Yeah
(19:16):
you doing open heart surgery. Oh I can't be like, Okay,
well let my patients die on the table, get the
funk out of here. Yeah, maybe I pood to a little.
You just really very complex, really put it to use.
The excuse farting goes on and operating oh man, yeah,
just made me think about that. You know that that's
(19:37):
got to happen because are like right laughing right when
you can't do a loud one, because then you could
the surgical staff could start laughing. Right. Ah See, these
agins investigations, we need to do surgeons of the brows
of the medical community. So they're probably are oh yeah
really yeah, just because they're like hot ship because they're
(19:58):
like they have a specialty or whatever. And it's the
one where you actually benefit from like not having too
much empathy because you're just like treating the human body
like a piece of meat. So it's like really empathetic
humanistic people, whereas like people who are just like cocky
and like I'm a god, I can do this like
(20:18):
this person like thinking about that, like you're you're under
in a season, someone's operating and they're just like shred
this bit right, watch flame order dog? Wait, hold on, kids,
you know the nurses keep that And I'm stereotyping nurses
(20:39):
is being generally female, but I think statistically they are.
But like even nurses keep that in check, right, Chad,
stop it, stop it. Chad Chadwick are like the most
important people at the hospital. Hell yeah, they're content, right yeah, Um,
we should explain that a little something for to kids
is something that's super producer Nick Stump's friend used to
(21:00):
say before far for farting is back in old d c.
Oh my god, so stupid, and it's become habitual here. Yes, anyway,
no surgeons do that though. No, No, we're gonna take
a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back,
(21:28):
and we wanted to start off just checking in with
st Nikki of man, not of sex crimson. Blessed are
those who commit sex crimes and are dating Nicki Minaj.
She will keep for you no matter what, so you
know that she and now she had a new boyfriend,
this guy Kenneth petty and he looks like a nice
(21:49):
guys forty years old. They were used to know each
other in high school. Is a nice build. Oh, he's
also a convicted sex offender. Okay, and he was charged
with basically using a sharp object to coerce a six
year old into having sex with him when he was
also a minor. But still he is threatening someone with
a sharp object for sex. And then she was like
(22:11):
in her comments being like, you guys can try and
ruin my life, go ahead, but you can't go off internet. Uh.
And then he also when he got out for that crime,
he also went back in because he shot a guy
and was convicted first three manslaughter and it just I
don't know. It just seemed to be a theme with
Nicki Minaj because when she was on a track with
Takashi six nine, people were like, what are you going on?
(22:31):
This guy was played guilty to using a child in
a sexual performance. Takashi, Yeah, there was like a he
was in some video where there was like a minor
doing some sex actors. I didn't know who that was
until literally he was at night. I literally had never
heard it of him, and my boyfriend was like, going off,
(22:52):
he's like, I don't want to sound like an old man,
but wrap these days, I mean, there's something wrong. And
I was like what, and he's like this guy took cash.
She sticks nine. He shows me this video of him
freestyling like in an ocean, and I thought it was
a prank, Like I thought it was the worst. It
was like it was would be me freestyling, right, Yo.
(23:15):
He's like a lot of delays like yo, hold on,
I'm in the ocean, nothing trying to get in motion.
Ye Like yeah, it's like bros around him are like wisdom,
you know, like there it's the world. I was like
this something is going on. The bar is getting lower
(23:36):
and lower because motherfucker's aren't even clever anymore with rhyming.
It's just like but there's also yeah, like everything like
many art forms, as it gets easier to kind of
jump in, there's a lot of crap. There's a lot
of garbage too, And yeah, he's really popular. A lot
of people, like especially in New York radio like EBRO
on Hot nineties seven, people are like, why are you
(23:56):
always hating on him? Because, like, dude, the guy's trashys
like just you already diverge from the topic at him. Yeah,
I truly was had never even heard of him. Yeah,
there's a lot of oh my what, But you know,
I feel the same way. But I'm an old head,
as they say. But also I don't I don't actually
see sort of objectively like where the artistry is for him.
(24:17):
I get his energy. I think might be infectious. And
if you're an angry teen and you don't know what
to make sense of the world, then just resonates with you.
That's what we were talking about, is that now our
generation grew up with rap, right, so our parents could go,
that's not music just because it's so different than think
we've heard. But now we're in a world where older
people are like, that's not real rap. Rap is from
(24:37):
when I was, you know. It's like it's this whole
new world of feeling old. Yeah no. And but then
to go along with it, you have people like Takaju,
who's like on paper, have engaged in criminal ship. He's
facing a possible life sentence on some like reco charges like, yeah,
not a great guy, and I don't get it music
(24:58):
was Nikki, what are you doing? And yeah, I feel
like there's just always a cloud of sexual crime following
her around her brother had like convictively awful ship. Maybe
she has like a lower threshold, yeah, because she's been
around it, so she's like it's not that bad, right,
(25:18):
It could be, yeah, for sure, but it's just funny
because like, yeah, those are times when she like butts
heads with fans, like or the ones who may not
be total Barbie crew who are willing to overlook everything.
But right, yeah, who do you think is more loyal
Barbies or Trump supporters? Trump supporters, Yeah, because at this
point he's a sex crime, racist, everything, and they're still
(25:41):
like yeah, yeah, yeah, don't even surprised me, Like he
could shoot a guy and I'm his sex criminality and
racism are the like monster verse of like what he does,
like he that's the thing that made them like, yeah,
go off the best. I wanted to talk real quick
(26:06):
about this New York Times story about location based tracking,
which is something that I was like vaguely aware was
happening in the background of my smartphone, and it's apparently
a twenty one billion dollar business. What the idea that
an app will track you are serving people? What is
it they're selling the data? They're selling your data? So
apps that track your location are keeping extremely close tabs
(26:28):
on where you are. They know where you live. They like, no, okay,
you're the only person who moves from this house to
this pace, like on a regular basis. And IBM just
bought the weather Channels app because the weather Channel is
like one of those apps that you always leave the
location service on. Four Square remade itself as a location
marketing company, but twenty one billion dollars as an industry,
(26:52):
like to put that in perspective, like billboards and outdoor
marketing is a seven point one billion dollar industry, and
that's like the highest it's ever been, So it's like, yeah,
it's triple that. And that's a thing that we all know.
We all know we're under the influence of, like billboards
when we see them, because they're just right there. That's
(27:13):
why I love altered Carbon right on Netflix. And Netflix
is a joke. But yeah, there's this completely invisible industry
that I know. I don't know them well. But it
was like in a social gathering and this person was
talking about how she worked briefly for Google and it's
(27:37):
probably against illegal for her to tell me this story,
so no one will know who I'm talking about. She
said that her job was simply to put this device
in her purse and find a reason to go into
local business and stay in there long enough until she
felt it vibrate, and then she would get to leave.
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And she never knew what it was for what, but
she quit after a short while because it was making
her so uncomfortable, because she was like she'd have to
like an optomat, like go in and be like, oh,
I'm just looking at glasses, you know, and just have
to like make up a reason to be in there.
And then mid sentence at beef since she's just like like, oh,
I'm I don't change my mind. And she said she
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thinks that it was like surveying the space, that it
was like measuring, like sending out little signals and like
creating sort of like a map of the store, and
then that data was going to be sold, So Google
was going to sell that data back to the businesses
and go we can track. Because she's like it was
something to do with what you're talking about, where they
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were mapping the store, and then that data could be
used in conjunction with people's phones so they could find
out how long does someone stay at the front of
the store. How long did they stay in the back
of the store. I mean, we're talking like splitting bears
down and that's what this, that's what this is. They
were looking this rack for five minutes, so that rack
is very successful. Whereas yeah, that that that display was
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was affect you get high engagement in the left quad
lower left quadruple. Companies are buying this stuff. I mean,
it's crazy. Personally, I'm just pissed that I don't have
access to that information, because I bet it's fascinating. Like
there's all sorts of interesting ship about like how humans
move in groups, like the way that they lay out
grocery stores, like they lay it out this way because
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that's like the direction that humans circle. And also Cal's
circle in that direction, like we all we prefer to
go counterclockwise. But then there was a change because Whole Foods,
to like make themselves seem different, changed it up so
that their direction was in a different direction. And now
everybody wants to be like Whole food so they changed
it to the opposite directions. Just weird. McDonald's they designed mean,
(29:53):
there's a million examples of this and McDonald's, but they
designed their their booths to become uncomfortable after twenty minutes, Right,
you're right, they don't want you to stay in there
long enough to go. This is disgusting, right, Like read
and yellow are the proven colors that like make you
uncomfortable and you want to get out area and their stressors,
(30:15):
so like, yeah, it's like they researched everything. Red is
also a stimulant, so it like causes it makes you
more likely to make impulse decisions. Yeah, but then after
twenty minutes, you're like, wait, why are the floors so slippery?
Is that fat just in the air that they don't
want think? Uh? Alright, let's talk about the president and
(30:41):
his wall. He's back at it because it's still doing
well and the only polling that matters, which is when
he yells it at a rally, people will chant it
back at him. Um. One of the ways this story
is getting picked up is that there are several outlets
saying the fact that he's saying that he's just gonna
make the military to it if Congress won't give him
(31:02):
the permission to dedicate five billion dollars to building the wall.
The Democratic leaders planned to offer Trump one point three
billion which mathematically is less than five billion, I believe,
master negotiator. Uh So he's like, fine, I'll just make
the military do it. But that is illegal unless you
(31:25):
get approval from Congress declaring war or something. It's more
like a budgetary thing, like you can't take funds that
have been designated for military defense and then just begin
using those for border security. It's like that's money that
as a Congress we agreed to us for X, Y
and Z in the d D. First. You can't be like, oh,
(31:47):
I think, well, since there's money there and they have,
I can use the Army Corps of Engineers, I think
is what his logic is. They'll just build that. But
that isn't gonna work. And Poppy also, do you forget
you told everybody Mexico was going to pay right, so
what happened has forgotten about what happened there? My man,
they love that one too. At the rallies, who's gonna
pay for it? Mexico cut to them being like each ship.
(32:13):
Um yeah, So I guess that also fed into today's
really awesome Oval Office petty fight. Petty showed down between
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Trump, and Pence who Mike Pence
credit to him, kept his mouth shut the whole time
because he was like, oh god, what a fucking mess
this is? Is there is there like a shift going
on where Pence is like, all right, I needed to
(32:35):
start thinking about my job. Yeah, because like, am I
about to be his chief of staff? Just turned down
the chief staff job, the first person to ever turn
that job down like that. I just feel like there
was a shift maybe over the past week where once
the Muller stuff started coming out that he was directly
implicated that people are like, all right, we gotta start
(32:55):
thinking about what happens this. But yeah, Pence kept his
mouth shut. It was great because the whole thing it
was just meant to be one of those photo ops
where they're in the Oval office and you say, we're
about to talk about this thing, right, get the photos, Okay,
everybody clear out, and then we can beget negotiating. But
Trump was doing he was real fucking messy with it
from the beginning. He was really trying to paint it
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as like, you know, I take border security very seriously,
national security is very important to me. Unfortunately Democrats don't agree.
Blah blah blah. You know, I want the wall, and
just framing it as if no border equals no national security.
There for Democrats are bad patriots. And then he petulantly
goes to Nancy Posy, goes, Nancy, do you want to
say something? And so she just started truth talking and
(33:37):
she was like, thank you, Mr President, let me tell
you why everything you just said was wrong, not even
that aggressively. I just sort of began saying things that
we're talking, yeah, exactly. And his first mistake was letting
a woman speak, because we all know he hates women
who are smarter than him, which are all women most
of the time. And so they go on, they start
going back and forth. He cannot stop interrupting him. But
(34:00):
there are a few moments that I think we just
wanted to point out because they were very, very just
kind of it's telling that uh, Nancy Plosian, Chuck were
just like just they didn't they didn't care. They didn't
like the fact that he was doing all of this
ship in front of the press, so they let it
be known. So, uh, one of the first clips we're
gonna play is where Trump is basically incorrectly saying that,
you know, he could get the wall Bilt but he
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just doesn't have the votes in the Senate, and Chuck
Schumer's just blocking him. But he could do it in
the House if you wanted to, because he runs the
House or whatever. You sure, my guy, so is he?
They're even Republicans in the House who don't want to
because there are people who are also like, it's a
lot of money if you're really like the few deficit
(34:41):
hawks there are, they don't like the month, the cost
of it. And also if you are in an area
where you're not in a solidly red district that is
wildly unpopular with independent voters or anyone you may have
to win over, especially have like people of color there
who are just like this is a fucking just racist monument,
like this is the House is a little bit trickier play,
most if not all Democrats are gonna say no. So
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he's dealing with slim margins here. Now that the Senate
is a difference, I mean, like they have numbers, but
they also need any more votes than you actually think.
So anyway, this is Nancy Pelosi telling Trump to pull
up with that energy. But there are no votes in
the House a majority vote for a wall, no matter
if I needed the votes for the wall in the House.
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I would have them in one session. You don't do it,
do it, they'll do it, please by all the inser. Okay,
So that was okay, So things were heating up a
little bit. Uh. And then at that point Trump is
just basically saying, well, if I don't get the wall,
then I'll shut down the government. And Schumer e Poia like,
we don't want to do that. That is bad for people.
(35:46):
That holds things up, that causes a lot of chaos
and d C. And for people who out of work. Yeah,
people who are dependent on government services. It is not
a good thing. We're telling you. Because he spent the
beginning part saying it's everything's really great at the border.
Right now, we're stopped. This like was making up weird
facts that not even they could follow where these statistics
were created because he was saying the wall is working
(36:07):
it we're stopping. Yeah, he said he they caught ten
terrorists at the southern border, but the wall doesn't exist, right.
But that's where he's being caught in lying and also
trying to paint himself as a guy who's doing well.
So then Chuck Schummers like, well, if it's doing fine,
then that's what I'm saying. I'm offering the same funding
I offered you last year, and if he's doing well,
then what's the problem, Like, we'll only build on that.
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He also said, you've only spent six percent of the
one point three billion we allocated last year, so why
do you need even more money now? You haven't even
used one point three billion, So anyway, So then he
really puffs his chest down and just sort of saying like,
I want my fucking wall. I don't care if the
government shuts down. I'll take the hit because that's how
down for the wall I am. And I think that
even confused everyone else, because like, you don't want to
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own this at all. So I am proud to shut
down the government for border security, Chuck, because the people
of this country don't want criminals and people that have
lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country. So
I will take the mantle. I will be the one
to shut it down. I'm not gonna blame you for
the last time you shut it down it didn't work.
(37:11):
I will take the mantle of shutting down and I'm
gonna shut it down for border But you shouldn't shut
it down, Thank you very much everybody. That's how people
think that you gave up the peat. The one card
you have to play a shutdown thing is to be
(37:31):
like it was them and when you're out here being
I will take the blame. Uh yeah. But one final
parting gift I just do want to leave with you
is when Chuck Schumer just counterpunched the ship out of
Trump because at one point Nancy Pelosi brought up the idea.
She was like, well, you know, the problem in the
House is you also have Republicans fifty or so of
my colleagues who will be leaving office because of the
(37:52):
unsure direction of this administration, being like you had a
losing strategy midterms and got torched, and so he started,
but I want to send it. I don't want to
send it. And this is him getting really defensive about
how he won the Senate, and Schumer with a great
clap back, excuse me, did we win the Senate? The Senate?
When the President braggs that he won North Dakota and Indiana,
he's in real trouble. What stop Schumer? Although I do
(38:19):
not like how you've done things up to this point,
I did like that clip that was pretty good. So yeah,
it was you know, this is I think a preview
of things to come of what could happen with especially
Nancy Pelosi. Now, I mean I think some commentators were like, oh,
I don't know if that that's gonna look good for her,
people who like, you know, want to have her be
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speaker if they want to work with the president. It's like,
I don't know how many people are really being like,
we want a Nancy Pelosi because she's going to work
with the president so much as like someone who's gonna
stand up for like what Democrats are trying to do
and not caved and appease this man. So we'll see. Yeah,
And then just real quick on the president, just going
with what we were saying earlier about maybe people kind
(39:01):
of backing away from him. A Judge Napolitano, who has
always been a source of great frustration on my end
when I look at Fox News clips of him and
he's just you know, seems to exist in a different universe.
He came out and said that Trump may actually be
in trouble, and it was the first time that he
seemed to acknowledge that. Yeah, I mean He's always sort
(39:23):
of flip flopped, like he'll do things like be like, yeah,
maybe Obama did do some wire tapping to put saying
that ship in his ear, but then also be like,
I'm on Jim Acostas side, he didn't Judo chop anyone.
This is wrong. Uh, And then like but when it
comes like legal stuff, he typically will put his judge
hat on and be like, this is not good even
to me, a sycophan. So yeah, this is a his
(39:46):
very sane take on the legal jeopardy the president might
be in. What's your position on what we think we
know right now is of late Friday, that's the most
dangerous to the president. Filing last week was the link
by federal prosecutors here in New York, professional prosecutors, not
Bob Mueller's team, saying that the president paid Michael Cohen
(40:08):
to commit a crime. Now, under the law, that would
make the president as criminally liable as Michael Cohen. So
if you pay me to shoot somebody and I shoot them,
you're as liable as if you had pulled the trigger.
That's the basic principle of law. This is the Southern
District of New York. This is the oldest and most
prestigious federal prosecutor's office in the country. They would not
make an allegation like that if they did not have
(40:30):
corroborated evidence to support it. And they cannot make an
allegation like that unless they're gonna do something with it now.
Director Comey is right. The Justice Department has all kinds
of rules and regulations. They have three legal opinions and
whether a sitting president commundited to say no, and one
says yes, but all three agree that if the Statute
(40:50):
of Limitations is about to expire, then the government needs
to do something to stop the running of the Statue limitations,
which would mean a secret indictment about which the public
does no. M I don't know how you watch Fox
in or like He's gonna be fine, no crusion, It's
all good. Yeah, I saw earlier today a headline and
(41:11):
click on it. Yet but about that, some you know
Trumpkin like Maga people are starting to actually go like, oh,
maybe there is something to work out, like some of
his hardcore fans. That's the most like the fact that
you needed this much yeah information to be to be suspicious.
It's really disappointing, right, it's like he's cheating on you
(41:33):
just because I found that underwear that's not mine, as
card as he's cheating him, he's cheating on you. Just
because you your cousins saw him with that woman. Doesn't
mean he's cheating on you. Here's a video of him
fucking this woman. Maybe he's cheating. I don't know, maybe right,
maybe not. Maybe he's doing Yeah, I don't know how you.
I don't know what's going to happen. It's so unprecedented. Yeah, so,
(41:56):
I mean he seemed to be saying that the Mueller
investigation doesn't worry him for the president, but the whole
paying off Stormy Daniels, paying off you know, well because
there's they have actually come out with the connective tissue
like this is what it is. And also he's just
that's his partisan shot to be like respected prosecutors, not
Mueller's people. Like okay, he still had to show you
(42:19):
he was still Fox. I mean, the thing that you
always here is that John Edwards did the same thing.
He paid a woman off for paid sush money, hush
money to keep a affair quiet, and it didn't his
wife was dying, well, his wife was dying and it
wasn't good for his political career, but it did like
get taken to court, but then it ultimately got you know,
(42:41):
he he was not found guilty. I think it was
a hungry right. Well. I think in a lot of
people they take the misstep of just point of the
fact that he wasn't convicted as saying these aren't really
bad things, rather than they clearly found it up as
a prosecutable offense. Prosecutors believe that the judge thoughts so
it's just that they didn't have the evidence in their
case to be like, yeah, this is this is what
(43:02):
he did, and here's the proof. Whereas now you're looking
at like you have people like Michael Cohen who have
who's already like admitted to being guilty to doing this stuff.
There's a huge difference in those cases. But I think
as a precedent that does exist in terms of Trump
being liable for this kind of behavior. Yeah, this Times
article was saying that Edwards case had little corroboration from
other key figures in the transaction, whereas Trump's case has
(43:26):
the guy who had made the transaction like he told
me to do it. Yeah, And even though as much
as he tries to dismiss it, and the GOP they've
also done the well is it really like crime? And
Kevin McCarthy was like, well, then a lot of people
if that's campaign finance violation, a lot of us have
to go, I'm sorry, so all you'll do camp what
are you saying? So it's a very very strange time
(43:49):
for them because you can only say crimes are aren't crimes?
Truth is in truth so much until like you really
got to pay the piper. And I mean, one thing
the Judge Napolitano mentioned at the end is the possibility
that they can actually file because you know, they've said
that they won't indict a sitting president and people have
(44:10):
taken that to me and oh, he can just run
out the clock and you know, if he gets reelected,
then he'll be past the statute of limitations. And I
think the judge pointed out that you could actually file
a secret indictment secrets secrets, so that would actually like
stop the clock on the Statute of limitations. So that
(44:33):
but if we never find out about it, well I
think we would the second he that's assuming we all
survive to see the end of his administration, which we
shall see. All right, we're going to take another quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And we talked
(45:03):
yesterday on our episode with Paige Weldon about Airbnb, and
she said that Airbnb is overrated and they reached out
to us and apparently they're great now, so we love them.
Use Yeah, so I mentioned a long read yesterday which
happened to occur because the journalist who reported it was
(45:27):
the son of the person who was killed by this
faulty swing at an Airbnb that their family was renting.
So a faulty swing. Yeah, his dad went out and
sat on a swing that was hanging from a branch
of a tree and the tree was dead and the
branch just tore off and hit him in the head
and killed him. And yeah, it was just like, it's
(45:50):
the sort of thing that wouldn't happen at a hotel
or like any other rental property that had standards for safety, um,
but at least maintenance of things right. And so that
that was the point they were making. And because the
person writing it was the son of the person who
was killed, he sort of had a lot of interaction
with Airbnb through the legal process, and they just you know,
(46:14):
got rid of any obligation to you know, make things
right and just put all the all the legal reliability
on the people who owned the house. Um, So that
was just I was wondering if that was like one
bizarre one off or a sign that there's a larger
problem with Airbnb and they've just done a good job
of keeping a lid on it. And there have been
(46:35):
a couple other high profile stories. And actually I was
just looking at the cover of the USA today as
I do because I'm eighty years old, and um, they
had an article actually about how Airbnb is sort of
taking a hit because a lot of these high profile
deaths that have happened in the past couple months have
happened at Airbnb. So there was a woman who went
(46:56):
missing last week in Costa Rica. She had taken a
vacation there to celebrate her thirty sixth birthday, I think,
and was murdered by the security guard at the villas
she was airbnbing. And then a New Orleans couple died
from a carbon monoxide leak at a home in Mexico
that they were airbnbing. And a family of four from
(47:18):
Iowa died into loom in a condo with a propane leak,
which you can normally smell, but apparently that was just
like so overpowering it killed them all quick enough that
they couldn't get out of the house. That last one
was actually home away. But it's basically the same model
of this huge new industry of people who are just like, yeah,
you can come stay at my death trap. And you know,
(47:40):
the question they asked is could Airbnb have done anything
to prevent these deaths? And because it's the USA today,
they're not like going in hard. They just said. In
the case of the carbon monoxide poisoning, Airbnb says that
it requires its hosts to follow the laws of the city, state,
and country in which it is located. It won't list
property and less hosts agree to do this, so it's
(48:02):
just like a box you check, like do you agree
to follow up totally. Mexico does not require smoke or
carbon monoxide detectors in every household. Airbnb distributes free smoke
and carbon monoxide detectors to hosts who request it, right
to people who request it, so they're not even saying,
if you want to do this, you have to put
one of these ships up in your house. Right, they're
just saying, if you want one, will give you one.
(48:24):
But this is just Airbnb's business model essentially is they've
taken away the difficult part of you know, all the
red tape and regulations, that word that has come to
be like a bad thing in America, even though it's
like they're to save people's lives, uh, and they get
to just ingest these rental properties into their company without
having any actual standards. Yeah, I travel so much, and
(48:48):
in the beginning I was because I would do a
lot of colleges and you get paid a flat fee
and so you're paying for your own travel out of that.
So I would try to cut corners and save as
much money as possible. And over time I just realized
being be in general, I did not feel safe. Just
you know, you get there and you're like, oh, this
isn't what I thought it was going to be, and
(49:09):
this or this is it smells weird in here and
there was like two dogs fighting, you know, like just
in the room. So I do hotels normally, I've had
sometimes I will do an airb and me and I've
had great experiences, but in general, these types of services
(49:30):
are like risky and like Uber, I like had a
traumatic experience and I just don't want to ever take
a lift or an uber again. And it wasn't that bad,
but it was enough to scare me enough. Like it
was me and my boyfriend. We got picked up seven am,
go to the airport. Um, they know they're taking me
to the airport, it's not like a surprise, and get
(49:50):
in and the guy was like blasting tainted love at
seven am, and he had kind of a crazy look
to him, like he was like did he just wake
up or is he coming down? Yeah, And my boyfriend
was like, hey, the base is really loud back here,
the levels, Like he was trying to make it so
it wasn't like it's too loud. He was trying to
(50:12):
be like, oh, you don't understand how it is. Yeah,
he was like could you turn the base down? And
he was like kind of looked confused and started turning
it down, and I was like trying to lighten the moves.
I was like, it's bumping back here and uh he
dramatically his name is Jonathan. Jonathan dramatically in made an
(50:33):
illegal you turn in like rush hour traffic like near
our house or maybe two minutes away from our house
at this point and lambs on the brakes at the
side of the street and goes, I'm taking you back,
and I was like what. I was so confused. He
was like, I'm dropping you off and I was like
why and he it was like because we asked to
turn the music down. He was like, just your general
(50:53):
attitude and he took off, speeding down are like skinny
scary street, slams on the breaks in front, got our
luggage out, which I thought was weird, and looked at
us like, have a nice life and I've got charged
eight dollars for it. I was like, come on, and
I decided not to even I gave him one star review,
(51:14):
but I did not like go after Uber. I just
was like, I'm not I don't want to deal with this,
but like it was so like it took enough time
where we felt like we had to drive, and then
we had to pay so much for parking at the
report and it was this whole thing. So anyway, since then,
I've been really I don't want to take Uber ever again.
(51:35):
You have one bad experience and it's like I don't
what am I What have I been doing? I've just
been getting in the car with these total most of
them are professional and very people just trying to make it.
My brother in law drives uber and it's a second job.
Like you know, they're just trying to make extra money,
but you just don't know who it is. Well, it's
hard to regulate too, because like even when people have
(51:56):
complaints about a driver, you don't know what their methodology
is for addressing that. It can be like, oh, we
spoke to them and they're fine because we were almost
a perfect five star review, like, you know, so we
got him on a day that he was crazy, I mean,
like what you know, and my boyfriend like he was
like stopped talking because he was like I can tell
(52:17):
this guy's nuts, you know. And so yeah, I mean
that is somewhere with air you just don't really know
what you're getting yourself into. I mean, that's the entire
business model is they've taken away the difficult part and
they put all the liability on the people who are
desperate enough to make money that they're renting there or
(52:40):
who are driving, you know, And it's easy to take
that risk before anything happens. But yeah, and then the
risk ends up coming down to the end user. But
we just kind of click on it because it's convenient. Yeah,
but yes, somebody's got to pay for safety checks, both
of like with Uber and training and retrofitting. Yeah, I
(53:02):
think that's where they're their lobbying money comes into play,
where they're like, hey, man, can you keep a blind
for a little bit. Don't make it hard for us
of the regulations. Yeah, they just assume the homeowner is
doing like the safety checks, and in certain cases they're
putting their users lives at risk. And I think they're
basically saying, you know, the loss of life is worth
(53:25):
the cost or the risk to us, like this is
how much we get sued for and this is like
worth it in the end because doing all that retrofitting,
doing all that training would cost this much and that's
just too much. And you know their corporation, Yeah, it's
sucked up. On Friday, I was going to h someone's birthday,
coworker's birthday, and my air being or my Uber driver
(53:48):
almost got me in a fight because he was about
to fight somebody. Jesus, Like he slammed the brakes because
someone honked at him and like road range like almost
topped out of his car and not that I was
gonna have to get involved with. I'm also a passion
I would be like my natural inclination as a human
would try and be like, hey, you know what the
yeah exactly, but like so, yeah, you know, sometimes people
(54:10):
get hot and you never know what to do. Yeah.
I have definitely been in ubers that we're being driven
by somebody who was just incredibly high on cocaine, like
multiple Like just like actors who are like, yeah, I'm
making it happen and I'm just doing this for a
little extra work, but you know what I'm saying, Like
and just like making insane decisions you never want you
(54:31):
never want someone where you're like, this person is hot
right now, And then a part of me would be like,
I'm too polite to be like, sir, are you fucked up? Yeah,
He's like, well, I guess it's only a short drive.
And he did come up with a pretty cool business
model for a sports bar where you had to answer
trivia to get in, so only real fans come in,
(54:52):
you know, so let me had some good ideas. Yeah, well, Sarah,
it's been a pleasure. Where can people find you? Um?
Instagram Sarah Say for one, Twitter Sarah for one. My
Etsy shop is Bobo's Nook. What no maniatures yet? Um,
(55:14):
I can't make those. I'm not that skilled. But I
do some embroidery stuff and I have like a little
inspirational quote on arrested piece of driftwood and multiple fonts,
which is literally what it says. It's like right right, yeah,
so yeah, all right, Bobo copy of mine? Yeah? The
craft good? And is there a tweet you've been enjoyed?
(55:36):
You know, no, because I've been on a Twitter diet
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I have an app that limits my time on there,
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because the diet did the trick you take it anymore
that it's It just changed my life, really, I'm serious,
Like my life has in this started in three and
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a half months ago. The change engine my general happiness
is noticeable when the amount of stuff I've gotten done
is unbelievable. In a dollhouse, y'all. I know you're out here.
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Hello the Internet, and welcome to season sixty one, Episode
three of DIR Daily's Eight Guys, the podcast where we
take a deep dive into America's share consciousness using the headlines,
box office reports, TV ratings, what's trending on Google and
social media. It's Wednesday, Decever twelve, two th team. My
name is Jack O'Brien a k. Even the sun goes down,
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Heroes eventually die, horoscopes often lie, and sometimes why nothing
is for sure? Nothing is for certain, nothing last forever,
but until they closed the curtain. It's him and on,
Jack O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to joined as always by
my co host Mr Miles. Yes, thank you. No singing
a KA today, I'm just calling myself Mr ten K. Gray,
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thank you for getting me to ten thousand Twitter followers.
I now have a millennial savings account, as that one
Twitter said, So if I have bills, I'll reach out
to y'all for a quick thing. I know, Sarah, you
have like eighty four thousand. Uh, Jack is like thirties
something thousands. So it's nice to be in the one
comic club or five figure club or followers also a
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k a a smock weed every days whatever the fund
That weird tweet was about, and myka was courtesy at
ruth O eight on mine was from Andrew Hillary. We're
throwed to be joined in our third seat by the
hilarious comedians Sarah Shaper. What's up you know? Welcome back,
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Thank you, it's great to be back. It's great to
have you back. What have you been up? Oh, I've
been deep into a writing a book. Whoa, it is
ruining my life. What's the book about? If we can,
it's a memoir. I don't recommend it doing that going
into the recesses. I wrote. Um. I got the book
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deal like a year ago. I wrote the first draft,
turned it in in June, and then two months went
by and I got a letter back from the editor.
It's called an editorial letter, which basically was like no,
I mean, it wasn't like that. I mean, there were
things they liked, but it was like, you need to
start over. I guess I'm not the gift of a
(02:13):
memoir writer that I thought I was. UM, but I
was very upset at first, and then I took a
few months to dig deeper and really think harder about it,
and they were right. I needed it to be a
better story instead of just like throwing everything at the wall.
That sounds like a terrible a couple of months, the
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couple of months where you were digging deeper. Oh, I'm
still in that mode, like where I'm reading every because
I'm I'm someone who collects things from the past, and um,
I'm reading every journal entry I've ever had, touching everything
and finding, you know, because a lot of the book
has to do with my mom, and so I found
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her journals, reading all of her journals and just really,
I mean, I'm just I'm ready to put it all
back in metaphorically and physically. I'm ready to put it
all back in a box and put it away and
not think about the past for so much of my life, right,
it sound like getting audited by reality. I feel like
(03:17):
I'm this at the end of this process, I'm gonna
I mean, I am in therapy, but this is like
an intense like examination of my life and most of
it won't even end up in the book. But I
just I'm looking for all those little details that make
a book more vibrant to read, like oh the what
was the well? Because I was like, oh, I forgot
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everything in my life. That's what I felt like at first,
and then once you start reading things, you're like, oh, yeah,
I remember that whole thing, or like you know, just
the color of the wall paper and the kitchen. You know,
things like that pop back upies very strong. Imin't even
like going back through when I'm like doing taxes at
the end of the year, expenses at the end of
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the year, just going through my credit and I'm just like,
whoa that remember that. Yeah, I've been in a box.
Spent eight thousand dollars at ari e I. It's very
easy to do, very easy to do because fucking long
underwears like a hundred bucks. I was fucked up over
that anyway. If you see footage of me arguing with
(04:21):
somebody at r I, it was because I believe that
long John should not be a hundred dollars. Yes, but
they when they quick dry material. Patagonia, Yeah, it's nice
and get way, but at least they give their like
a pretty woke company, so like they even took their
tax breaks and I think we're donating it to some
environmental fund. I don't know. Yeah, patagon yea, they need
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more positive publicity. We're gonna get to know you a
little bit better in a moment, Sarah. But first we're
gonna take our listeners through what we're talking about today.
We're gonna talk about how location based tracking is already
an enormous business. Your location is already a twenty one
billion dollar business. We're gonna talk about St. Nicki Minach
(05:05):
patron saint of sex Crims. We're gonna talk about the
meeting yesterday between Trump and Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer,
how that went, and just about his demands that the
world to pay for his border wall. Uh. And we're
gonna talk about that Nazi piece of ship getting four
(05:26):
d and nineteen years for killing others. Life plus Life
and Maria Bettina and other things. But first, Sarah, what
is something from your search history that is revealing about
who you are? Um? So looked checked dead right before
I came in here, and Uh, I was like, could
it couldn't be more perfect? Tutor dollhouse. So I got
(05:52):
my old part of my research into myself as I
got a bunch of stuff from my house from growing up,
and I brought it to l A. And one of
the things was my old dollhouse, which is tutor style
in its architecture. It's really beat up. And I was
going to give it to a friend and let her
fix it up for her daughter. I don't have kids,
(06:13):
and she was like, it's too big for our space.
I mean, it's like a huge dollhouse. It's like three
ft high, it's three floors. It's beautiful. Um, and I
decided I'm going to flip this dollhouse. I'm goners, I
can't wait. I'm gonna like put it on my Instagram
and make it like a series of me flipping this dollhouse.
I can't wait. I started looking up paint colors and like, yeah,
(06:38):
I'm going to redo the bathroom floor with teeth. Yes,
I need to kill a few people first. That part
I haven't figured out yet, but I'll get it done. Um.
You surprised you got a lot of dentist's office people.
That is an industry. Cash for gold. People will take
the dentist's teeth, hook it up, get out of are
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supposed to. That is disgusted. I mean, just teeth are gross,
But I would the idea of you doing a dollhouse
is one of the greatest things. It's me and if
you know me. This is like the most on brand
thing that I collect miniatures, anything mini. And I have
a little shelf in my several shelves in my apartment
(07:22):
of just mini stuff. A lot of it is from
my dollhouse growing up, like a little dishes and things
from the dollhouse. Also collect like miniature animal figurines and
anything tiny. Um and uh yeah, so I have all
my dollhouse furniture from growing up, and a lot of
it's really nice. It was like a hobby of mine.
I would like save my money and then go to
this place called the American Store, which is like a
hobby store, and I would buy the nice dollhouse furniture
(07:46):
from there. You know, are you going to redo the
inside the core like mid century maybe a Tutor exterior,
but the interiors yea. So I was like, it's not
like a trendy architecture, it's not mid century model. Um,
but I did look like Tutor, like modern how to
modernize the look of the outside that doesn't look so
like old English? You know? Um, but it's gonna I know,
(08:09):
And there was I was reading a whole website about
like just in general about Tutor, Like if you try
to modernize and make the colors more like neutral. But
it's like against the original plan, dark and light, brown
and cream color. Light should enter this house passing through
at least. But I'm gonna single window. Yeah, I gotta
(08:30):
shingle the roof. It's going to be great. I might
put electricity into it. You can like wire it and
put lighting. I hope that this ends up you being
a full on like construction like flipping real houses. You're like, well,
I did the ministure version. Yeah, I can do this.
Have you ever been to Gulliver's Gate, the giant like
Manhattan scale model. I haven't because it I think it
(08:51):
came after I, after you left me. Yeah, but I
have been in the Chicago Museum of Art or whatever.
They're big. That big museum is for Ferres Bieler and
the rent Um in the basement. We walked in and
my boyfriend was like, oh my god, Sarah, look it
was a sign. It was like miniature collection down the
stairs and I was like, and it was all dollhouse
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rooms up against the wall like you looked in through
a window into a perfectly They had light coming in
from the I took pictures of them, and you can't
tell that their miniature the picture. I mean, they're so
it's so beautifully done. I was like I just had
like full body goose bumps going through that room. Well,
I hope, I hope that this story ends with you
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looking at it and go, I can't give this up. Well,
I know that's the thing. I'm like where I know
I'm gonna want to keep it, But where the hell
am I? It's really there's no room in my house
for it, you know, So you need a reality show
about miniatures, because miniatures like totally capture the imagination. Like
I haven't seen it. I'm going to a miniature convention next,
(09:55):
like decided left Ober. It's weird because even if you
say that, I'm I'm just like when I think of
about him, like, yeah, I like little versions of stuff. Yeah,
I always wanted, Like because I don't have enough money
for a proper beams chair, I'm like, we'll get the
minute for now. I look at that in then make full,
fully functioning, you know, pieces of furniture like a dining
room table that stands and puts a leaf in. I mean, yeah,
(10:18):
people make stuff. That's just the people who do it
are just incredible artists on Instagram that saw the Francis
Glessner Lee collection. You know her she basically built all
these miniatures of actual murder scenes like like and that
was used to train detectives back in the day. Well,
you know the movie Hereditary, Um, the New Hormone. Oh
(10:38):
my god, it came. I didn't know all. I knew
it was a scary movie, and I love scary movies.
And the previouws looked really good. And in the first
scene she's making a dollhouse and my boyfriend was like,
he looked at my face. I was like, like, he
was like, this is the best. I mean, it was
an incredible doll houses. Shout out to dollhouse having a
(10:59):
bigger Yeah, creepy. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? Okay,
regular size? This is really old And maybe this is
why I think it's overrated because it took me so
long to read it. But the book Eat Pray Love.
I finally read it and because a lot of people
(11:21):
had told me, like I got divorced and they were like,
you have to read Eat Pray Love. It's basically your life.
I'm like, I didn't go to Italy or India, like
and I listened to the audio book and I was like, gosh,
I don't know if this book would play today because
it's a little bit of a white lady going on
a journey into other cultures and sort of yeah, there's
(11:46):
it's a very she I thought it was, you know,
it was well written, but it wasn't what I thought
it was going to be. And it was like I
was like, oh, this is a little too you know,
fluff for me. But but there was in the audio
book she's like doing void the accents of the characters,
like is you must come to see me? And I'm like,
(12:06):
I don't know if that would play. She did it
very well. Wait was it the author? The author? Yeah? Yeah,
And I was a little like, I don't know, I
don't know it just it's an interesting book that I
don't know how it would be received. The same book
just about like you know, white people going on, you know,
using other cultures to like find themselves. Yeah. So but she,
(12:29):
you know, I thought she offered none of it was egregious,
but it was just a little bit like, yeah, I
tried to do an infinite jest as an audiobook and
I only made it like two and a half months in.
But the voices, there's like all these like voices, like
ethnic voices that the guy does and it's just really
really not Okay, it's weird. Yeah. Yeah. The one thing
(12:52):
I like about Elizabeth Gilbert, she gave a Ted talk
awhile back. Was really good on the idea of like
creative genius and sort of how our definition of a
genius has evolved over time. Very interesting, uh discussion for
people who are in the creative field. I'll have to
check it out, but I've not seen any probably or
read it, but it felt like, yeah, one of those
books at the time to like this is the this
(13:13):
is the Bible. It was very zigeisty. Yeah yeah, what
is something you think is underrated? Okay, this was really
hard for me. I don't. This is not underrated. It's
like one of the top things of the year that
everyone agrees is great. What's underrated? This is not. It's
not underrated, but it's just something I really love. I
guess I can say it's underrated because books in general
(13:34):
are underrated, but the book I just also an audio
book because I do a lot of travel and I
listened to books while I'm d doing long drives and
the book Educated m Um underrated in my world forgetting um.
The name of the woman who wrote it already? Is
it Educated a memoir? Yes by Tara West, Yes, Tastever,
(13:56):
it's a bottle woman who grew up in a survivor
the List sort of doomsday family um in the in
rural Idaho, and she never went to school. She learned
how to read and write just rudimentary and then like
(14:17):
studied for the A. C. T. I don't want to
spoil it too much, but she got herself into college
based on a lie essentially and showed up to college
not knowing anything, like not having of education aside from like,
I know how to whittle ship. She could like pick
apart scrap metal with her dad, who believed the end
of the world was coming and who believed everything the
(14:38):
Illuminati and everything was like, it is so good, It's
so beautifully written. It is. She had an actress or
a voice of our artists to the audiobook, and the
person who did it was just really really good at
the different voices and everything, and it was just I'll
get I just it's not really giving anythingway. But the
one scene that I was like, holy I mean, there's
(15:00):
so many holy ship moments in this book. But she's
in a class and her first semester of college, and
there's it's an art class and there's some picture and
she's like, she like, didn't understand something. You asked a
question and people were like looking at her, like what
are you crazy? And the professor was like very funny,
and she she didn't know. She's like, I know that
(15:22):
I'm a freak, but I don't know why they know
I am. I don't know what I just said. So
she finds out the picture or whatever she was referring
to was the hollow. She didn't know what the word
Holocaust meant. I think that's what it was. She had
never heard of the Holocaust, and like people were like
thinking she was just being a total I don't know
(15:44):
what that know. I I mean, just you know stuff
like that, like I and and just the oh man,
it's just all of it a relationship with her, there's
so much more to it that that's just the tip
of the iceberg of this, just the pitch of someone
who was raised as Domesday prepper goes to college and
lies they have actually no like functional education in that sense.
Of like history of these other things that yeah, sort
(16:05):
of she ends up going and getting like a full
ride to Cambridge for It's I with honors. That's definitely
blast from the past, Underground bunker vibe. And finally, what
is a myth? What's something people think it is true?
(16:26):
You know to be false? Oh, this is when I
love telling people because I read something and that it
changed my life in a real practical way, which was
there was a point where I decided, Oh, I'm just old.
Now I have to pee in the middle of the night.
Mm hmmm, Um, you don't. Yeah, you don't have to
pee in the middle Someone has brought this up before. No, no,
but this is something I think about. So you don't
have to pee in the middle of the night. You
(16:47):
can actually sleep through the night. It's you think you're
being woken up by the need to pee, but you
probably were just woken up by something else or disrupted
sleep in some way. And if you just go back
to sleep, you don't have to get up and pee. Um,
you can hold it. Your body can hold it till
the morning. Now something. I think There are exceptions where
(17:08):
it's like when you wait, when you have a dream
that you're peeing your pants. You up and you're like,
it's like an emergency. But I since I read that,
I tried it, and I have not gotten up to
pee in the middle of the night for years. Wow,
that's I didn't know that because what I started doing
was drinking less before I go to sleep. And I
was like, I do that. I'm like backloading all my
(17:28):
hydration like at the end of the day or like
I get home, like I drink a lot of water
and stuff. It does. And then I was like, oh,
maybe I'm just filling up too soon, which is making
me want to relieve myself in the middle of the night. Yeah.
I mean I try not to like over drink right
before I go to bed because I don't want to
even be bothered by that feeling even in the morning. Yeah.
(17:49):
But yeah, you don't have to pee, just go back
to back because once you get up, now you've disrupted.
Now you're really awake and like it's going to take
longer to get back to sleep. Now you've really disrupted
your sleep in a more significant way, right And if yeah,
because I was like, well, man, see if I pee,
I'll go back that's right, because I'll use that logical. Yeah,
so if you just tell yourself you don't have to pee,
(18:11):
you just woke up, because you just woke up, it's okay,
go back right, go right back, go right back to
sleep the bed. It totally fused with my perception. Yeah.
I found out that there's like medication you can take
that just basically makes it so you don't sense that
you have to pee, and like you can just go
like they get it, pe your pants. No, you just
you can just hold it way longer than you think.
(18:32):
It's just yeah, I mean some of it is meant.
I mean, I'm obviously I would not recommend this as
someone who's like like bladder infection are like a prostate
issue or something like where they really do have to
pee all the time. I don't want you to pe
your bed. Yeah, if you suddenly you've now convinced yourself
I have to pee in the middle of the night
all the time and you didn't before, maybe that's psychological,
(18:55):
like yawning, like I feel like you can psych yourself
out of out having to pay too much. Maybe because yeah,
like surgeons take that medication. That's how I found it out,
was surgeons take it if they have a long surgeony,
I don't want to. They just I feel like if
you're a surgeon, that's like the one job you can
be yourself and no one can give you ship. Yeah
(19:16):
you doing open heart surgery. Oh I can't be like, Okay,
well let my patients die on the table, get the
funk out of here. Yeah, maybe I pood to a little.
You just really very complex, really put it to use.
The excuse farting goes on and operating oh man, yeah,
just made me think about that. You know that that's
(19:37):
got to happen because are like right laughing right when
you can't do a loud one, because then you could
the surgical staff could start laughing. Right. Ah See, these
agins investigations, we need to do surgeons of the brows
of the medical community. So they're probably are oh yeah
really yeah, just because they're like hot ship because they're
(19:58):
like they have a specialty or whatever. And it's the
one where you actually benefit from like not having too
much empathy because you're just like treating the human body
like a piece of meat. So it's like really empathetic
humanistic people, whereas like people who are just like cocky
and like I'm a god, I can do this like
(20:18):
this person like thinking about that, like you're you're under
in a season, someone's operating and they're just like shred
this bit right, watch flame order dog? Wait, hold on, kids,
you know the nurses keep that And I'm stereotyping nurses
(20:39):
is being generally female, but I think statistically they are.
But like even nurses keep that in check, right, Chad,
stop it, stop it. Chad Chadwick are like the most
important people at the hospital. Hell yeah, they're content, right yeah, Um,
we should explain that a little something for to kids
is something that's super producer Nick Stump's friend used to
(21:00):
say before far for farting is back in old d c.
Oh my god, so stupid, and it's become habitual here. Yes, anyway,
no surgeons do that though. No, No, we're gonna take
a quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back,
(21:28):
and we wanted to start off just checking in with
st Nikki of man, not of sex crimson. Blessed are
those who commit sex crimes and are dating Nicki Minaj.
She will keep for you no matter what, so you
know that she and now she had a new boyfriend,
this guy Kenneth petty and he looks like a nice
(21:49):
guys forty years old. They were used to know each
other in high school. Is a nice build. Oh, he's
also a convicted sex offender. Okay, and he was charged
with basically using a sharp object to coerce a six
year old into having sex with him when he was
also a minor. But still he is threatening someone with
a sharp object for sex. And then she was like
(22:11):
in her comments being like, you guys can try and
ruin my life, go ahead, but you can't go off internet. Uh.
And then he also when he got out for that crime,
he also went back in because he shot a guy
and was convicted first three manslaughter and it just I
don't know. It just seemed to be a theme with
Nicki Minaj because when she was on a track with
Takashi six nine, people were like, what are you going on?
(22:31):
This guy was played guilty to using a child in
a sexual performance. Takashi, Yeah, there was like a he
was in some video where there was like a minor
doing some sex actors. I didn't know who that was
until literally he was at night. I literally had never
heard it of him, and my boyfriend was like, going off,
(22:52):
he's like, I don't want to sound like an old man,
but wrap these days, I mean, there's something wrong. And
I was like what, and he's like this guy took cash.
She sticks nine. He shows me this video of him
freestyling like in an ocean, and I thought it was
a prank, Like I thought it was the worst. It
was like it was would be me freestyling, right, Yo.
(23:15):
He's like a lot of delays like yo, hold on,
I'm in the ocean, nothing trying to get in motion.
Ye Like yeah, it's like bros around him are like wisdom,
you know, like there it's the world. I was like
this something is going on. The bar is getting lower
(23:36):
and lower because motherfucker's aren't even clever anymore with rhyming.
It's just like but there's also yeah, like everything like
many art forms, as it gets easier to kind of
jump in, there's a lot of crap. There's a lot
of garbage too, And yeah, he's really popular. A lot
of people, like especially in New York radio like EBRO
on Hot nineties seven, people are like, why are you
(23:56):
always hating on him? Because, like, dude, the guy's trashys
like just you already diverge from the topic at him. Yeah,
I truly was had never even heard of him. Yeah,
there's a lot of oh my what, But you know,
I feel the same way. But I'm an old head,
as they say. But also I don't I don't actually
see sort of objectively like where the artistry is for him.
(24:17):
I get his energy. I think might be infectious. And
if you're an angry teen and you don't know what
to make sense of the world, then just resonates with you.
That's what we were talking about, is that now our
generation grew up with rap, right, so our parents could go,
that's not music just because it's so different than think
we've heard. But now we're in a world where older
people are like, that's not real rap. Rap is from
(24:37):
when I was, you know. It's like it's this whole
new world of feeling old. Yeah no. And but then
to go along with it, you have people like Takaju,
who's like on paper, have engaged in criminal ship. He's
facing a possible life sentence on some like reco charges like, yeah,
not a great guy, and I don't get it music
(24:58):
was Nikki, what are you doing? And yeah, I feel
like there's just always a cloud of sexual crime following
her around her brother had like convictively awful ship. Maybe
she has like a lower threshold, yeah, because she's been
around it, so she's like it's not that bad, right,
(25:18):
It could be, yeah, for sure, but it's just funny
because like, yeah, those are times when she like butts
heads with fans, like or the ones who may not
be total Barbie crew who are willing to overlook everything.
But right, yeah, who do you think is more loyal
Barbies or Trump supporters? Trump supporters, Yeah, because at this
point he's a sex crime, racist, everything, and they're still
(25:41):
like yeah, yeah, yeah, don't even surprised me, Like he
could shoot a guy and I'm his sex criminality and
racism are the like monster verse of like what he does,
like he that's the thing that made them like, yeah,
go off the best. I wanted to talk real quick
(26:06):
about this New York Times story about location based tracking,
which is something that I was like vaguely aware was
happening in the background of my smartphone, and it's apparently
a twenty one billion dollar business. What the idea that
an app will track you are serving people? What is
it they're selling the data? They're selling your data? So
apps that track your location are keeping extremely close tabs
(26:28):
on where you are. They know where you live. They like, no, okay,
you're the only person who moves from this house to
this pace, like on a regular basis. And IBM just
bought the weather Channels app because the weather Channel is
like one of those apps that you always leave the
location service on. Four Square remade itself as a location
marketing company, but twenty one billion dollars as an industry,
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like to put that in perspective, like billboards and outdoor
marketing is a seven point one billion dollar industry, and
that's like the highest it's ever been, So it's like, yeah,
it's triple that. And that's a thing that we all know.
We all know we're under the influence of, like billboards
when we see them, because they're just right there. That's
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why I love altered Carbon right on Netflix. And Netflix
is a joke. But yeah, there's this completely invisible industry
that I know. I don't know them well. But it
was like in a social gathering and this person was
talking about how she worked briefly for Google and it's
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probably against illegal for her to tell me this story,
so no one will know who I'm talking about. She
said that her job was simply to put this device
in her purse and find a reason to go into
local business and stay in there long enough until she
felt it vibrate, and then she would get to leave.
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And she never knew what it was for what, but
she quit after a short while because it was making
her so uncomfortable, because she was like she'd have to
like an optomat, like go in and be like, oh,
I'm just looking at glasses, you know, and just have
to like make up a reason to be in there.
And then mid sentence at beef since she's just like like, oh,
I'm I don't change my mind. And she said she
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thinks that it was like surveying the space, that it
was like measuring, like sending out little signals and like
creating sort of like a map of the store, and
then that data was going to be sold, So Google
was going to sell that data back to the businesses
and go we can track. Because she's like it was
something to do with what you're talking about, where they
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were mapping the store, and then that data could be
used in conjunction with people's phones so they could find
out how long does someone stay at the front of
the store. How long did they stay in the back
of the store. I mean, we're talking like splitting bears
down and that's what this, that's what this is. They
were looking this rack for five minutes, so that rack
is very successful. Whereas yeah, that that that display was
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was affect you get high engagement in the left quad
lower left quadruple. Companies are buying this stuff. I mean,
it's crazy. Personally, I'm just pissed that I don't have
access to that information, because I bet it's fascinating. Like
there's all sorts of interesting ship about like how humans
move in groups, like the way that they lay out
grocery stores, like they lay it out this way because
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that's like the direction that humans circle. And also Cal's
circle in that direction, like we all we prefer to
go counterclockwise. But then there was a change because Whole Foods,
to like make themselves seem different, changed it up so
that their direction was in a different direction. And now
everybody wants to be like Whole food so they changed
it to the opposite directions. Just weird. McDonald's they designed mean,
(29:53):
there's a million examples of this and McDonald's, but they
designed their their booths to become uncomfortable after twenty minutes, Right,
you're right, they don't want you to stay in there
long enough to go. This is disgusting, right, Like read
and yellow are the proven colors that like make you
uncomfortable and you want to get out area and their stressors,
(30:15):
so like, yeah, it's like they researched everything. Red is
also a stimulant, so it like causes it makes you
more likely to make impulse decisions. Yeah, but then after
twenty minutes, you're like, wait, why are the floors so slippery?
Is that fat just in the air that they don't
want think? Uh? Alright, let's talk about the president and
(30:41):
his wall. He's back at it because it's still doing
well and the only polling that matters, which is when
he yells it at a rally, people will chant it
back at him. Um. One of the ways this story
is getting picked up is that there are several outlets
saying the fact that he's saying that he's just gonna
make the military to it if Congress won't give him
(31:02):
the permission to dedicate five billion dollars to building the wall.
The Democratic leaders planned to offer Trump one point three
billion which mathematically is less than five billion, I believe,
master negotiator. Uh So he's like, fine, I'll just make
the military do it. But that is illegal unless you
(31:25):
get approval from Congress declaring war or something. It's more
like a budgetary thing, like you can't take funds that
have been designated for military defense and then just begin
using those for border security. It's like that's money that
as a Congress we agreed to us for X, Y
and Z in the d D. First. You can't be like, oh,
(31:47):
I think, well, since there's money there and they have,
I can use the Army Corps of Engineers, I think
is what his logic is. They'll just build that. But
that isn't gonna work. And Poppy also, do you forget
you told everybody Mexico was going to pay right, so
what happened has forgotten about what happened there? My man,
they love that one too. At the rallies, who's gonna
pay for it? Mexico cut to them being like each ship.
(32:13):
Um yeah, So I guess that also fed into today's
really awesome Oval Office petty fight. Petty showed down between
Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Trump, and Pence who Mike Pence
credit to him, kept his mouth shut the whole time
because he was like, oh god, what a fucking mess
this is? Is there is there like a shift going
on where Pence is like, all right, I needed to
(32:35):
start thinking about my job. Yeah, because like, am I
about to be his chief of staff? Just turned down
the chief staff job, the first person to ever turn
that job down like that. I just feel like there
was a shift maybe over the past week where once
the Muller stuff started coming out that he was directly
implicated that people are like, all right, we gotta start
(32:55):
thinking about what happens this. But yeah, Pence kept his
mouth shut. It was great because the whole thing it
was just meant to be one of those photo ops
where they're in the Oval office and you say, we're
about to talk about this thing, right, get the photos, Okay,
everybody clear out, and then we can beget negotiating. But
Trump was doing he was real fucking messy with it
from the beginning. He was really trying to paint it
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as like, you know, I take border security very seriously,
national security is very important to me. Unfortunately Democrats don't agree.
Blah blah blah. You know, I want the wall, and
just framing it as if no border equals no national security.
There for Democrats are bad patriots. And then he petulantly
goes to Nancy Posy, goes, Nancy, do you want to
say something? And so she just started truth talking and
(33:37):
she was like, thank you, Mr President, let me tell
you why everything you just said was wrong, not even
that aggressively. I just sort of began saying things that
we're talking, yeah, exactly. And his first mistake was letting
a woman speak, because we all know he hates women
who are smarter than him, which are all women most
of the time. And so they go on, they start
going back and forth. He cannot stop interrupting him. But
(34:00):
there are a few moments that I think we just
wanted to point out because they were very, very just
kind of it's telling that uh, Nancy Plosian, Chuck were
just like just they didn't they didn't care. They didn't
like the fact that he was doing all of this
ship in front of the press, so they let it
be known. So, uh, one of the first clips we're
gonna play is where Trump is basically incorrectly saying that,
you know, he could get the wall Bilt but he
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just doesn't have the votes in the Senate, and Chuck
Schumer's just blocking him. But he could do it in
the House if you wanted to, because he runs the
House or whatever. You sure, my guy, so is he?
They're even Republicans in the House who don't want to
because there are people who are also like, it's a
lot of money if you're really like the few deficit
(34:41):
hawks there are, they don't like the month, the cost
of it. And also if you are in an area
where you're not in a solidly red district that is
wildly unpopular with independent voters or anyone you may have
to win over, especially have like people of color there
who are just like this is a fucking just racist monument,
like this is the House is a little bit trickier play,
most if not all Democrats are gonna say no. So
(35:02):
he's dealing with slim margins here. Now that the Senate
is a difference, I mean, like they have numbers, but
they also need any more votes than you actually think.
So anyway, this is Nancy Pelosi telling Trump to pull
up with that energy. But there are no votes in
the House a majority vote for a wall, no matter
if I needed the votes for the wall in the House.
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I would have them in one session. You don't do it,
do it, they'll do it, please by all the inser. Okay,
So that was okay, So things were heating up a
little bit. Uh. And then at that point Trump is
just basically saying, well, if I don't get the wall,
then I'll shut down the government. And Schumer e Poia like,
we don't want to do that. That is bad for people.
(35:46):
That holds things up, that causes a lot of chaos
and d C. And for people who out of work. Yeah,
people who are dependent on government services. It is not
a good thing. We're telling you. Because he spent the
beginning part saying it's everything's really great at the border.
Right now, we're stopped. This like was making up weird
facts that not even they could follow where these statistics
were created because he was saying the wall is working
(36:07):
it we're stopping. Yeah, he said he they caught ten
terrorists at the southern border, but the wall doesn't exist, right.
But that's where he's being caught in lying and also
trying to paint himself as a guy who's doing well.
So then Chuck Schummers like, well, if it's doing fine,
then that's what I'm saying. I'm offering the same funding
I offered you last year, and if he's doing well,
then what's the problem, Like, we'll only build on that.
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He also said, you've only spent six percent of the
one point three billion we allocated last year, so why
do you need even more money now? You haven't even
used one point three billion, So anyway, So then he
really puffs his chest down and just sort of saying like,
I want my fucking wall. I don't care if the
government shuts down. I'll take the hit because that's how
down for the wall I am. And I think that
even confused everyone else, because like, you don't want to
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own this at all. So I am proud to shut
down the government for border security, Chuck, because the people
of this country don't want criminals and people that have
lots of problems and drugs pouring into our country. So
I will take the mantle. I will be the one
to shut it down. I'm not gonna blame you for
the last time you shut it down it didn't work.
(37:11):
I will take the mantle of shutting down and I'm
gonna shut it down for border But you shouldn't shut
it down, Thank you very much everybody. That's how people
think that you gave up the peat. The one card
you have to play a shutdown thing is to be
(37:31):
like it was them and when you're out here being
I will take the blame. Uh yeah. But one final
parting gift I just do want to leave with you
is when Chuck Schumer just counterpunched the ship out of
Trump because at one point Nancy Pelosi brought up the idea.
She was like, well, you know, the problem in the
House is you also have Republicans fifty or so of
my colleagues who will be leaving office because of the
(37:52):
unsure direction of this administration, being like you had a
losing strategy midterms and got torched, and so he started,
but I want to send it. I don't want to
send it. And this is him getting really defensive about
how he won the Senate, and Schumer with a great
clap back, excuse me, did we win the Senate? The Senate?
When the President braggs that he won North Dakota and Indiana,
he's in real trouble. What stop Schumer? Although I do
(38:19):
not like how you've done things up to this point,
I did like that clip that was pretty good. So yeah,
it was you know, this is I think a preview
of things to come of what could happen with especially
Nancy Pelosi. Now, I mean I think some commentators were like, oh,
I don't know if that that's gonna look good for her,
people who like, you know, want to have her be
(38:40):
speaker if they want to work with the president. It's like,
I don't know how many people are really being like,
we want a Nancy Pelosi because she's going to work
with the president so much as like someone who's gonna
stand up for like what Democrats are trying to do
and not caved and appease this man. So we'll see. Yeah,
And then just real quick on the president, just going
with what we were saying earlier about maybe people kind
(39:01):
of backing away from him. A Judge Napolitano, who has
always been a source of great frustration on my end
when I look at Fox News clips of him and
he's just you know, seems to exist in a different universe.
He came out and said that Trump may actually be
in trouble, and it was the first time that he
seemed to acknowledge that. Yeah, I mean He's always sort
(39:23):
of flip flopped, like he'll do things like be like, yeah,
maybe Obama did do some wire tapping to put saying
that ship in his ear, but then also be like,
I'm on Jim Acostas side, he didn't Judo chop anyone.
This is wrong. Uh, And then like but when it
comes like legal stuff, he typically will put his judge
hat on and be like, this is not good even
to me, a sycophan. So yeah, this is a his
(39:46):
very sane take on the legal jeopardy the president might
be in. What's your position on what we think we
know right now is of late Friday, that's the most
dangerous to the president. Filing last week was the link
by federal prosecutors here in New York, professional prosecutors, not
Bob Mueller's team, saying that the president paid Michael Cohen
(40:08):
to commit a crime. Now, under the law, that would
make the president as criminally liable as Michael Cohen. So
if you pay me to shoot somebody and I shoot them,
you're as liable as if you had pulled the trigger.
That's the basic principle of law. This is the Southern
District of New York. This is the oldest and most
prestigious federal prosecutor's office in the country. They would not
make an allegation like that if they did not have
(40:30):
corroborated evidence to support it. And they cannot make an
allegation like that unless they're gonna do something with it now.
Director Comey is right. The Justice Department has all kinds
of rules and regulations. They have three legal opinions and
whether a sitting president commundited to say no, and one
says yes, but all three agree that if the Statute
(40:50):
of Limitations is about to expire, then the government needs
to do something to stop the running of the Statue limitations,
which would mean a secret indictment about which the public
does no. M I don't know how you watch Fox
in or like He's gonna be fine, no crusion, It's
all good. Yeah, I saw earlier today a headline and
(41:11):
click on it. Yet but about that, some you know
Trumpkin like Maga people are starting to actually go like, oh,
maybe there is something to work out, like some of
his hardcore fans. That's the most like the fact that
you needed this much yeah information to be to be suspicious.
It's really disappointing, right, it's like he's cheating on you
(41:33):
just because I found that underwear that's not mine, as
card as he's cheating him, he's cheating on you. Just
because you your cousins saw him with that woman. Doesn't
mean he's cheating on you. Here's a video of him
fucking this woman. Maybe he's cheating. I don't know, maybe right,
maybe not. Maybe he's doing Yeah, I don't know how you.
I don't know what's going to happen. It's so unprecedented. Yeah, so,
(41:56):
I mean he seemed to be saying that the Mueller
investigation doesn't worry him for the president, but the whole
paying off Stormy Daniels, paying off you know, well because
there's they have actually come out with the connective tissue
like this is what it is. And also he's just
that's his partisan shot to be like respected prosecutors, not
Mueller's people. Like okay, he still had to show you
(42:19):
he was still Fox. I mean, the thing that you
always here is that John Edwards did the same thing.
He paid a woman off for paid sush money, hush
money to keep a affair quiet, and it didn't his
wife was dying, well, his wife was dying and it
wasn't good for his political career, but it did like
get taken to court, but then it ultimately got you know,
(42:41):
he he was not found guilty. I think it was
a hungry right. Well. I think in a lot of
people they take the misstep of just point of the
fact that he wasn't convicted as saying these aren't really
bad things, rather than they clearly found it up as
a prosecutable offense. Prosecutors believe that the judge thoughts so
it's just that they didn't have the evidence in their
case to be like, yeah, this is this is what
(43:02):
he did, and here's the proof. Whereas now you're looking
at like you have people like Michael Cohen who have
who's already like admitted to being guilty to doing this stuff.
There's a huge difference in those cases. But I think
as a precedent that does exist in terms of Trump
being liable for this kind of behavior. Yeah, this Times
article was saying that Edwards case had little corroboration from
other key figures in the transaction, whereas Trump's case has
(43:26):
the guy who had made the transaction like he told
me to do it. Yeah, And even though as much
as he tries to dismiss it, and the GOP they've
also done the well is it really like crime? And
Kevin McCarthy was like, well, then a lot of people
if that's campaign finance violation, a lot of us have
to go, I'm sorry, so all you'll do camp what
are you saying? So it's a very very strange time
(43:49):
for them because you can only say crimes are aren't crimes?
Truth is in truth so much until like you really
got to pay the piper. And I mean, one thing
the Judge Napolitano mentioned at the end is the possibility
that they can actually file because you know, they've said
that they won't indict a sitting president and people have
(44:10):
taken that to me and oh, he can just run
out the clock and you know, if he gets reelected,
then he'll be past the statute of limitations. And I
think the judge pointed out that you could actually file
a secret indictment secrets secrets, so that would actually like
stop the clock on the Statute of limitations. So that
(44:33):
but if we never find out about it, well I
think we would the second he that's assuming we all
survive to see the end of his administration, which we
shall see. All right, we're going to take another quick break.
We'll be right back, and we're back. And we talked
(45:03):
yesterday on our episode with Paige Weldon about Airbnb, and
she said that Airbnb is overrated and they reached out
to us and apparently they're great now, so we love them.
Use Yeah, so I mentioned a long read yesterday which
happened to occur because the journalist who reported it was
(45:27):
the son of the person who was killed by this
faulty swing at an Airbnb that their family was renting.
So a faulty swing. Yeah, his dad went out and
sat on a swing that was hanging from a branch
of a tree and the tree was dead and the
branch just tore off and hit him in the head
and killed him. And yeah, it was just like, it's
(45:50):
the sort of thing that wouldn't happen at a hotel
or like any other rental property that had standards for safety, um,
but at least maintenance of things right. And so that
that was the point they were making. And because the
person writing it was the son of the person who
was killed, he sort of had a lot of interaction
with Airbnb through the legal process, and they just you know,
(46:14):
got rid of any obligation to you know, make things
right and just put all the all the legal reliability
on the people who owned the house. Um, So that
was just I was wondering if that was like one
bizarre one off or a sign that there's a larger
problem with Airbnb and they've just done a good job
of keeping a lid on it. And there have been
(46:35):
a couple other high profile stories. And actually I was
just looking at the cover of the USA today as
I do because I'm eighty years old, and um, they
had an article actually about how Airbnb is sort of
taking a hit because a lot of these high profile
deaths that have happened in the past couple months have
happened at Airbnb. So there was a woman who went
(46:56):
missing last week in Costa Rica. She had taken a
vacation there to celebrate her thirty sixth birthday, I think,
and was murdered by the security guard at the villas
she was airbnbing. And then a New Orleans couple died
from a carbon monoxide leak at a home in Mexico
that they were airbnbing. And a family of four from
(47:18):
Iowa died into loom in a condo with a propane leak,
which you can normally smell, but apparently that was just
like so overpowering it killed them all quick enough that
they couldn't get out of the house. That last one
was actually home away. But it's basically the same model
of this huge new industry of people who are just like, yeah,
you can come stay at my death trap. And you know,
(47:40):
the question they asked is could Airbnb have done anything
to prevent these deaths? And because it's the USA today,
they're not like going in hard. They just said. In
the case of the carbon monoxide poisoning, Airbnb says that
it requires its hosts to follow the laws of the city, state,
and country in which it is located. It won't list
property and less hosts agree to do this, so it's
(48:02):
just like a box you check, like do you agree
to follow up totally. Mexico does not require smoke or
carbon monoxide detectors in every household. Airbnb distributes free smoke
and carbon monoxide detectors to hosts who request it, right
to people who request it, so they're not even saying,
if you want to do this, you have to put
one of these ships up in your house. Right, they're
just saying, if you want one, will give you one.
(48:24):
But this is just Airbnb's business model essentially is they've
taken away the difficult part of you know, all the
red tape and regulations, that word that has come to
be like a bad thing in America, even though it's
like they're to save people's lives, uh, and they get
to just ingest these rental properties into their company without
having any actual standards. Yeah, I travel so much, and
(48:48):
in the beginning I was because I would do a
lot of colleges and you get paid a flat fee
and so you're paying for your own travel out of that.
So I would try to cut corners and save as
much money as possible. And over time I just realized
being be in general, I did not feel safe. Just
you know, you get there and you're like, oh, this
isn't what I thought it was going to be, and
(49:09):
this or this is it smells weird in here and
there was like two dogs fighting, you know, like just
in the room. So I do hotels normally, I've had
sometimes I will do an airb and me and I've
had great experiences, but in general, these types of services
(49:30):
are like risky and like Uber, I like had a
traumatic experience and I just don't want to ever take
a lift or an uber again. And it wasn't that bad,
but it was enough to scare me enough. Like it
was me and my boyfriend. We got picked up seven am,
go to the airport. Um, they know they're taking me
to the airport, it's not like a surprise, and get
(49:50):
in and the guy was like blasting tainted love at
seven am, and he had kind of a crazy look
to him, like he was like did he just wake
up or is he coming down? Yeah, And my boyfriend
was like, hey, the base is really loud back here,
the levels, Like he was trying to make it so
it wasn't like it's too loud. He was trying to
(50:12):
be like, oh, you don't understand how it is. Yeah,
he was like could you turn the base down? And
he was like kind of looked confused and started turning
it down, and I was like trying to lighten the moves.
I was like, it's bumping back here and uh he
dramatically his name is Jonathan. Jonathan dramatically in made an
(50:33):
illegal you turn in like rush hour traffic like near
our house or maybe two minutes away from our house
at this point and lambs on the brakes at the
side of the street and goes, I'm taking you back,
and I was like what. I was so confused. He
was like, I'm dropping you off and I was like
why and he it was like because we asked to
turn the music down. He was like, just your general
(50:53):
attitude and he took off, speeding down are like skinny
scary street, slams on the breaks in front, got our
luggage out, which I thought was weird, and looked at
us like, have a nice life and I've got charged
eight dollars for it. I was like, come on, and
I decided not to even I gave him one star review,
(51:14):
but I did not like go after Uber. I just
was like, I'm not I don't want to deal with this,
but like it was so like it took enough time
where we felt like we had to drive, and then
we had to pay so much for parking at the
report and it was this whole thing. So anyway, since then,
I've been really I don't want to take Uber ever again.
(51:35):
You have one bad experience and it's like I don't
what am I What have I been doing? I've just
been getting in the car with these total most of
them are professional and very people just trying to make it.
My brother in law drives uber and it's a second job.
Like you know, they're just trying to make extra money,
but you just don't know who it is. Well, it's
hard to regulate too, because like even when people have
(51:56):
complaints about a driver, you don't know what their methodology
is for addressing that. It can be like, oh, we
spoke to them and they're fine because we were almost
a perfect five star review, like, you know, so we
got him on a day that he was crazy, I mean,
like what you know, and my boyfriend like he was
like stopped talking because he was like I can tell
(52:17):
this guy's nuts, you know. And so yeah, I mean
that is somewhere with air you just don't really know
what you're getting yourself into. I mean, that's the entire
business model is they've taken away the difficult part and
they put all the liability on the people who are
desperate enough to make money that they're renting there or
(52:40):
who are driving, you know, And it's easy to take
that risk before anything happens. But yeah, and then the
risk ends up coming down to the end user. But
we just kind of click on it because it's convenient. Yeah,
but yes, somebody's got to pay for safety checks, both
of like with Uber and training and retrofitting. Yeah, I
(53:02):
think that's where they're their lobbying money comes into play,
where they're like, hey, man, can you keep a blind
for a little bit. Don't make it hard for us
of the regulations. Yeah, they just assume the homeowner is
doing like the safety checks, and in certain cases they're
putting their users lives at risk. And I think they're
basically saying, you know, the loss of life is worth
(53:25):
the cost or the risk to us, like this is
how much we get sued for and this is like
worth it in the end because doing all that retrofitting,
doing all that training would cost this much and that's
just too much. And you know their corporation, Yeah, it's
sucked up. On Friday, I was going to h someone's birthday,
coworker's birthday, and my air being or my Uber driver
(53:48):
almost got me in a fight because he was about
to fight somebody. Jesus, Like he slammed the brakes because
someone honked at him and like road range like almost
topped out of his car and not that I was
gonna have to get involved with. I'm also a passion
I would be like my natural inclination as a human
would try and be like, hey, you know what the
yeah exactly, but like so, yeah, you know, sometimes people
(54:10):
get hot and you never know what to do. Yeah.
I have definitely been in ubers that we're being driven
by somebody who was just incredibly high on cocaine, like
multiple Like just like actors who are like, yeah, I'm
making it happen and I'm just doing this for a
little extra work, but you know what I'm saying, Like
and just like making insane decisions you never want you
(54:31):
never want someone where you're like, this person is hot
right now, And then a part of me would be like,
I'm too polite to be like, sir, are you fucked up? Yeah,
He's like, well, I guess it's only a short drive.
And he did come up with a pretty cool business
model for a sports bar where you had to answer
trivia to get in, so only real fans come in,
(54:52):
you know, so let me had some good ideas. Yeah, well, Sarah,
it's been a pleasure. Where can people find you? Um?
Instagram Sarah Say for one, Twitter Sarah for one. My
Etsy shop is Bobo's Nook. What no maniatures yet? Um,
(55:14):
I can't make those. I'm not that skilled. But I
do some embroidery stuff and I have like a little
inspirational quote on arrested piece of driftwood and multiple fonts,
which is literally what it says. It's like right right, yeah,
so yeah, all right, Bobo copy of mine? Yeah? The
craft good? And is there a tweet you've been enjoyed?
(55:36):
You know, no, because I've been on a Twitter diet
and I'm only allowed on Twitter one hour a day.
I have an app that limits my time on there,
and I don't really read. I'm barely on it now
because the diet did the trick you take it anymore
that it's It just changed my life, really, I'm serious,
Like my life has in this started in three and
(55:58):
a half months ago. The change engine my general happiness
is noticeable when the amount of stuff I've gotten done
is unbelievable. In a dollhouse, y'all. I know you're out here.
We're going to make that reality show happen. Miles Where
can people find you? Twitter? Instagram at Miles of Gray.
Tweet I like is from Blaine cap it says you
(56:21):
like dogs. We'll name three of their albums. But that
uh tweet, I've been enjoying us from a cash bones
with a Z. You tweeted, You're only allowed to call
it a Monster Energy drink if it comes from the
Monster Energy region of France. You follow me on Twitter
(56:42):
at Jack under Square O'Brien. You follow us on Twitter
at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily Zygeist on Instagram.
We have Facebook fan page and a website Daily I
Guess dot com. Larris post our episodes and our pots
were link off to the information that we talked about
today's episode as well as song we ride out on
months talking. Oh, just some really nice little sample based
beats for you, a nice piano, just to you know,
(57:05):
keep the week going some day. Uh. And this is
by Kiefa theartist name. I always have to think of
teen mom when I see the name Kiefer and the
title is I think it's just five upper case as,
and I'm gonna say the title is by kief So
I'll enjoy Alright, We're gonna ride out on that. We
will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
(57:26):
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