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May 12, 2025 • 13 mins

THE BEST BITS IN A SILLIER PACKAGE (from Tuesday's Mike Hosking Breakfast) Just Buy an iPhone/Saving the World Is Still a Bit Inconvenient/Is This Why We Can't Have Nice Things/News Shock! Salmon Is Expensive

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Speaker 1 (00:09):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
The Rewrap.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Okay, welcome to the Rewrap for Tuesday, all the best
bits from the my casting breakfast on Newstalk s EDB
in a sillier package. I am Glenhearten today. Are we
doing that zero yet or is it still a bit tricky?
The price of electricity, we want something done about that,
not clear exactly what. And the price of salmon is

(00:50):
off the charts apparently before any of that. Social media.
The price of having that is the mental safety of
our kids. But can you actually fix it? Is it
technically possible? Nobody knows about technical possibilities more than my

(01:10):
husking Right.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
The social media ban, I've been thinking about that. It's
like the pay equity debate. Actually not hard to drum up,
a lot of emotion, not hard to find people who
would argue passionately for it. So in this sense, perhaps
unlike the pay equity debate, the government is on the
right side of this. Now, for the record, my gut
says the pay equity debate is somewhat of a risk,
but is more Beltway and Union based than many thinking
won't ultimately damage the government. The social media ban won't

(01:34):
damage them either, even though it won't work, which it won't.
It's not like the school phone ban. A phone ban
is black and white in class no phones. Now, that's
been successful because the government played the bad guy, allowing
schools to do what schools should have done all along.
The social media ban is designed to help parents be
the bad guys, backed by the government. Seeing now we're
looking to Australia. In Australia, they're exempting YouTube, they're exempting telegram,

(01:59):
they're exempting gaming and as part of that roadblocks there
are confirmed reports of pedophile rings using roadblocks. So the
government and now arbiters of what's good, what's bad, what's right,
what's wrong? Libertarians will be having a field day and
no wonder Actor not on board and Act by the way,
according to their leader who was listening to the Prime
Minister on this program yesterday, have not moved their position
on backing the idea because they don't. So the moment

(02:22):
you go down the meta's bad YouTuber's fine pathway, that's
lawyers and possibly threats of lawyers or possibly the pulling
of services from country. The government was also you might
remember related matter, government was also looking at big tech
paying for local media for content that the big tech
takes and makes money off. We were following Australia on
that as well. What happened to that trumped it and

(02:43):
tariffs and threats of services being pulled? Has any of
it come to pass?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
No?

Speaker 3 (02:47):
It has not.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Will it come to pass? No it will not.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah, it only just occured to me today and I
don't know why hasn't accurred to me earlier. But it's
completely redundant. This argument about the social media band. When
you set up an iPhone, you get asked are you
setting this up for yourself or for your someone and
your family? And if you're setting it up for your care,
you put all the family restrictions on it and they

(03:12):
can't install anything on that phone without your express permission.
Problem solved before it's even become a problems. Rewrap right now,
do we know what we're talking about? When it comes
to electricity prices?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Z Energy not commenting on Flick flicks a retailer of power.
If you're a flick customer and there's forty thousand of you,
you're going to be shipped off to Meridian. I don't
know whether you're excited about that or not, but this
brings back the whole gent tailor argument, and you can't
make any money. Octopus or another retailer, not a gent
tailor or a retailer, have done themselves a survey in
that they've completely and utterly wasted money. I've no idea

(03:49):
what they paid for it, but they completely and utterly
wasted any money they spent on this particular survey. The
survey tells us thus, half of New Zealand I'm more
concerned about the power bill than this time last year.
Breaking up the electricity gent tailors could improve competition. We
don't know that. We're only guessing because we say random
stuff to polsters. Curier did it? Forty six percent are

(04:10):
now more concerned, thirty nine percent about the same, eight
percent less concerned. Sixty nine percent of US big majority
government is not doing enough to bring down electricity prices.
As I asked earlier on in the program with Ryan,
what is it you want the government to do? Literally? Literally,
what do you want the government to do? Do you want
the government to hand you some money? Is that what

(04:32):
you were like? Would you like the government to pay
your power bill. What is it that they can tangibly?
Do you want them to instruct? You want to be
like Russia or North Korea and they instruct the power
companies what they can charge. Sixty seven believe sixty seven
percent believe the profits being made by electricity companies are
unreasonably high? Are they? Ask yourself how much Meridian made

(04:53):
and you don't know. Of course you don't know. Most
people don't know what profits electricity companies made are. Just
for the record, Meridian made a loss. There are no
profits for Meridian. They lost money, So they lost twenty
million dollars, one hundred and twenty million. That's going up
by the minute of sam Is it hardly show on
hundred and twenty million dollars? So when you say they
make a lot of profits, they don't always make a
lot of profits. Does any of us actually know what

(05:13):
we're talking about? And therefore, given we don't, why do
we answer poles? For goodness sake?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
If the government wants to pay for my algious city, though,
please do or don't tell? Mike I said that though
it may infuriate them, because they certainly did.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
Mike, what did the government cut GST on power bills
to help people out. Now, see this is where we
go wrong in this country. These are the sort of
crazed ideas that we can't be having. Why don't we
just take GF What are the stuff we'd like GST off?
So obviously airline tickets because they're too expensive. We'll take
GST off that fruit, vegetables obviously, Well, actually food, let's
take GST off food because that would help us out.

(05:52):
Uniform school uniforms, school lunches, obviously, because we already did
the food power. We need help on power. What if
you need a new cart? We don't want to pay
GST on accout because that makes camera expense. Why do
we just scrap gsps? Why don't have no text? See
where this goes?

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah? I mean he's right about it that we don't
want to make life more complicated. We want it less complicated,
don't we? Yeah? I could you agree more about that?
You can't have TST on some things than not others.
That it'd be like Trump having tariffs on goods but
not movies. I know, Hang on the rewrap right? How

(06:31):
are we getting on with our net zero obligations? And
when I say we I mean the human race as
a whole.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Welcome back, Tony Blair New Reporter is part of seeing
some joining the growing lists to argue that net zero
is doomed. Neit zero will be doing whether we do
anything about it or not. No one's going to jail
if they don't reach net zero. Of course, it's just
that we can avoid a lot of needles damage along
the way by recognizing it's early and baling, so our
economies can be put back on some sort of level footing. Ironically,

(06:59):
there's growing anger and Spain over last week's power blackout,
with a lot of people blaming the renewable aspect of
their supply chain. Spain is over fifty percent renewable, by
the way, which is high for Europe, their argument being
the higher the reliance on renewables, the more fragilely grid is. Here,
farmers are furious once again over the new settings for
the ets. We've gone from fifty percent to fifty one

(07:19):
percent reductions only because Paris says each year you need
to adjust up, so they adjusted the least they could,
but they still acquiesced to what was signed up years
ago when net zero was a bullish theory not an
economy sapping reality. The Climate Commission the other day put
new targets for credits and pricing on the carbon auctions.
They were completely different to last year's in a we

(07:40):
make it up because we don't really know what's going
on kind of way. We've stumbled and bumbled basically our
way through all of this, hurting our living standards and
to what end. Emissions are in fact down for New
Zealand ya yas. Is the world any better? No, which
is why Blair joins Badnock in calling it all out.
The Reform Party are booming in no small way because
they've called it all nonsense as well. So between Blair,

(08:02):
Farage and bad Knock that's a lot of cross political
support to tip up an increasingly obvious dead end idea
like me too under Council culture and all the other
band wagons that got fashionable that zero was destined for
the same end. Not that helping the planet isn't good
or laudable, but what we didn't understand then but clearly
do now is at what price? And are we prepared

(08:24):
to pay it? And given the answers, no, A few
more blear, Bad Knock and Farage type voices here wouldn't
go a miss.

Speaker 3 (08:30):
And yet again, you know, at the risk of sounding
like a broken record. What do you mean you don't
understand what that means? Kids? There used to be these
things called records, and then occasionally they did have a
scratch in them, and then the needle would jump back,
and so it would just repeat the same thing again
and again and again. Why am I explaining it to you?

(08:51):
There have been never been more vinyl sales in there.
Now you know how this works, Boomers. There used to
be these things called records, which they have again now,
but you never had. Never mind at the rescu has
handed like a broken record. Just because it's too hard
doesn't mean we shouldn't try to do it. People, Come on, no,

(09:15):
do you find We're just gonna use the world up,
throw it away and then it'll throw us away. There
and a half the re wrap. Meanwhile, we've already moaned
about the price of power, So let's moan about the
price of salmon.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
How much is smoke salmon? Go and call it glint
right now? How much of smoke salmon? Aquillo? Sam thirty
six dollars a killer? So Sam sys thirty six dollars
a kilo, Glenn, I'll give you one more chance. Do
you think it's more or less than that? At a guess?

Speaker 3 (09:43):
At a store?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
I guess more, go for fifty, forty sixty.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
In the late forties, I go for.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
Katie brings home a piece of salmon. She does this regularly.
She eats a lot of salmon. Salmon's fantastically good for you.
I'm endlessly interested in the cost of everything, because when
I move into politics, I'm going to end up on
a leader's debate, and one of the questions is going
to be how much is a piece of salmon? How
much is the price of milk? How much is the
average power bill? And I'm going to be ready for it.
I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to blow

(10:09):
them away anyway. So I'm asking you a piece of salmon.
And she goes and I got really nice piece of salmon.
It was sixteen dollars fifty. I say, how much that aequila?
We look at it and I am absolutely gobsmacked. Now
it happened to be a boutique piece from a very
small producer, and I thought, well, that'll be because it's
a boutique piece from a very small producer. So I
go look up smoked salmon and all the regular stuff.

(10:32):
Your king salmon, your supermarket salmon, is even more than
what we paid. So we paid one hundred and thirteen
dollars akilo, at which point I go, you must be drunk.
I fill it sixty or seventy. I'm thinking this is ridiculous.
Lambs up there as well, snappers in the fifties one

(10:55):
hundred and thirteen dollars a quiller. Then you go to
your bog standard king salmon, put a bit of pepper
on it. One hundred and twenty five dollars akilo. I
can find you salmon, bog standard mass produced salmon, smokes
ammon from a supermarket at one hundred and twenty nine
dollars a kilo. How long has this been the way?
What's going on now? The argument is, because I start

(11:17):
investigating at this point, a lot of waiters lost in
the smoking process. So you start off with a kilo
and you smoke it up and it comes out at
about two grams, so you've lost lots, so they've got
to make up the difference. Then they had a bit
of pepper vacuum seal it, so somewhere in there. But
is somebody making a lot of money or is that
just the cost of salmon.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Well, so you're not eating a kilo of salmon, of course.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
You're not, but the cost per you're not eating a
kilo of steak either. Well yeah, but you and you're
not in a kilo of snapper.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
You have a steak, though I'd argue that you'd have
more steak than you'd have you have.

Speaker 2 (11:46):
Two fifty grams of steak unless you're a peak.

Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, but you're not going to have turn of fifty
grams of salmon. That's going to be No.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
So what you're saying is it's the amount you eat,
therefore they can charge more per kilo.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
No, I'm just saying that when she comes home with
her portion, she's going to wake it out her portion
of salmon, and it was sixteen dollars, You go, oh whatever.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Well yeah I did, and that's how this whole thing began.
But look where we ended up, Guinn. We're paying one
hundred and twenty five to one hundred and twenty nine
dollars a quilo for smoked salmon.

Speaker 3 (12:12):
So I know a guy who does very nice smoke
trout issues well, how much is that a quilla or nothing?
Because he answer than he's related to me.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Grow your own salmon, grow your own trout, grow your
own vegetables, toick, cut the gs or power obviously, and
we're said to go, he didn't.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Grow the trout. I'd just like to say he caught it.
I've actually got still got some of my fridgish thing.
Could I have that from my lunch today? Would that
be extremely him? Yeah? So relatable, isn't it complaining about
the price of salmon the general populace? Yeah? Amen, if
you've seen the price of kevier lately, that's off the chart.
I am glad at heart bet with more relatable facts

(12:50):
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