April 24, 2024 • 40 mins
Several pro-Palestinian student groups at college campuses including MIT, Columbia, Emerson, and Tufts have set up encampments with tents as a form of protest of the war in Gaza. Students are calling for college officials to support a ceasefire in Gaza and put an end to institutions that support Israel. We heard your thoughts.
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It's nice with Ray Oneasy Boston Radio, but we get a lot to cover
in the last hour, and thisis one that I think most of you
want to get in on. Wehave seen in the last few days,
in the days approaching the Passover celebrationin the Jewish community. I hope all
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members of the Jewish community, manyof whom probably are not listening tonight,
because it is a very important holidayseason for Jewish people. But if you
are listening, happy to be Jewish. I wish you a happy and sweet
Passover. This week has seen therevival of college campus demonstrations across the country
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and the arrogance of the students.And as a matter of fact, I
was talking with a friend of minetoday about these students who are saying,
we're here and we're not going anywhereuntil all of our demands are met,
and we insist that Israel basically goout of business. We don't care.
The anti Semitism, the anti Zionism, the anti Israeli spirit that we have
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seen displayed this week, in thelast couple of weeks is very frightening.
Classes at Columbia's main main campus aregoing to be hybrid. Students are afraid
to actually Jewish students to go onto the campus. Now, Columbia University
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has set a midnight, a midnight deadline tonight to reach a deal with
pro Palestinian protesters about clearing out theircampus encampment. President Cheffique. Cheffique said
administrators are talking with student organizers aboutdismantling the encampment, dispersing in fireollowing university
policies going forward. Those talks arefacing a midlight, midnight deadline tonight to
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reach agreement. I wouldn't give hima deadline. I'd say, if you're
not if you were not off thiscampus, if you were not a student
on this campus, and you werenot off this campus in a in an
hour, you will be arrested.Number one, if you happen to be
a student, if you were stillat this little encampment that that you have,
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you you will be suspended as astudent and your your status as a
student may be revoked, I meanexpel, expulsion. Bob Kraft, the
owner of the New England Patriots,has taken some pretty dramatic steps, and
I want to say that's off toBob Kraft. Okay, Rob, I
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got some soundbites from Bob Craft,and he's talking about Columbia, where he
was an undergraduate. Uh. Andso I'd like to play a couple of
those sound bites at least to getthe conversation started, because it's not only
happening at Columbia. It's happening atthe University of Michigan. It's happening here
at MIT, it's happening here atTufts, it's happening here at Emerson College.
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And I'm beginning to get a sensethat maybe we are in a time
warp and we're back in nineteen sixtyeight. I'll explain that theory in a
moment, but in the meantime,Rob, if you would be so kind,
let's play Cup thirty eight. Thisis Bob Kraft, the owner of
the New England Patriots, who hasnow said he will withhold his financial support
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to Columbia, his undergraduate university.This great country that offers so many opportunities
to our families who came here asimmigrants, and we have to keep it
open. We can't have this intimidationthat's filtering through all these colleges, and
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I hate continue to grow and multiplythe way it is. And Kraft goes
on to make a point which Ihave made, and that is this point
in cut thirty nine. There area lot of people who know right from
wrong on this issue of Hamas versusIsrael, but a lot of Americans are
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being silent. There were a lotof Germans who were silent in the nineteen
thirties, and you saw how thatended. Cut thirty nine, Rob,
look at America. We've done researchand it shows ninety percent of the people
in this country are good people.They just have to be educated, and
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we can have them apathetic or misguided. We have to let them know and
they have to stand out and notbe silent. Here here on that Bob
Craft. And then Craft does makean illusion as I just made to Germany
in the nineteen thirties, there's alot of people who kind of turn and
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look the other way. It isnot time to turn and look the other
way, folks. Cut forty please, Rob. It starts with his Jews,
but then every group that feels marginalized, whill it be Blacks, Asians,
Hispanics, gay people. It'll justreally impact the great fabric of this
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country where people have freedom to operateand go the way they want and now
we have hatred and intimidation taking over. And then Bob Kraft kind of brings
it back to where he started andhe talks about how Columbia has changed and
how a lot of the elite IvyLeague schools have changed, and he hits
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the nail on the head here thatprofessors need to once again start teaching people
and students how to think, howto be rational, not impressing upon them
what they should think. This hascut forty ones Patriots. Only when I
went to Columbia, it was aplace where people listen, where ampathetic had
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compassion. And now you know,we have professors who, instead of teaching
how to think that they're trying totell our young people what they should think.
And I think one of the biggestproblems that we have to do something
about is really tenure in these universitieswhere people can do things and don't have
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accountability. Yeah. I mean,how many jobs out there in the world
do you have tenure? Not many? Not many? And as I don't
have tenure, I don't think youhave tenure. I don't think Bob Kraft
is tenured. Now he owns thePatriots, but he had to work to
own the Patriots, and he towork to make sure that he hired the
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people at the Patriots. The wholequestion of his relationship with Bill Belichick.
Will put that aside for now.The reason I think this might be a
night, it might be the beginningto feel like nineteen sixty eight is this
and I want to get your commentson this. In nineteen sixty eight,
all of a sudden, campuses eruptedwith violence and threats and intimidation. That
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was over the Vietnam War. Thisis over a war on the other side
of the world as well, butnot a war in which American troops are
involved in a war between Hamas andIsrael. We have no concept of what
it's like to live in Israel tobe under conscious of compartment. So anyway,
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when you look at the political landscapenow, in nineteen sixty eight,
we had a vice president who becamethe nominee of the Democratic Party in Hubert
Humphrey after Robert F. Kennedy Juniorwas assassinated. And once again I will
say Joe Biden should be giving SecretService protection of Bobby Kennedy Junior. Period.
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Not to do that, and thatis a decision that apparently is coming
out of homeland security is vile andcowardly, but we'll put that aside for
a moment. You have Hubert Humphrey, never been president. There are some
who look at Joe Biden and althoughlike myself believe he was elected in twenty
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twenty, I don't know he's functioningas president. I think there are others
who are running his administration, butput that aside. In nineteen sixty eight,
there was a very interesting and potentiallydangerous third party candidate, George Wallace.
He won several states, and actuallyhe did better than Ross Perot.
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He actually won states. His supportwas concentrated in the South, and many
people believe that he took very importantstates away from the Democratic nominee and maybe
in other states gave states, someof the border states to Richard Nixon.
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Here this year, we have athird party candidate in Bobby Kennedy, who
also might represent a threat to JoeBiden. On the Republican side, we
have in nineteen sixty eight Richard Nixon, who was disliked intensely by many people,
including people in the media. Todaywe have Donald Trump, who's disliked
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by intensely by many people, includingI think people in the media is watching
CNN today, they were doing aplay by play. They were thrilled every
time there was a comment that wascritical of Donald Trump that came up,
which is fine. That's they cando what they can do what they want.
We have, again as a backdropupheaval on campuses which eventually might spread
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during an election year. I thinkthere's some similarities the Democratic National Convention which
was the disaster in nineteen sixty eightin Chicago. Remember Richard Daley and others
yelling at Abe Ribakoff who was onthe stage at on the podium and the
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platform at the Democratic National Convention.Where will the Democratic National Convention be this
year? Chicago, a city thathas its own set of problems with immigration
right now. So there's some similaritieshere. Now the Republicans would be in
Milwaukee. In sixty eight, theywere in Miami, so they're not the
same city. They both begin withthe letter M. I'm just saying,
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I'm beginning to see that maybe weare going towards an election which is now
pretty close to six months away.We have May, full months of May,
June, July, August, September, and October, and we're there,
so we're getting close to the sixthmonth mark. I don't know what's
going to happen to Trump and NewYork. I have no idea how that's
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going to play. I have noidea if if he will be the nominee.
At this point he has the delegates. But what happens if he gets
convicted. What happens if he getsto put in jail? What happens if
Joe Biden all of a sudden onthe fourth of July says he's decided that
he's done uh, and leaves itto the delegates of the Democratic National Convention.
Maybe you could have Bernie Sanders asthe as the Democratic nominee. The
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point is that that there's a lotthat isn't set in stone, and right
now I feel the ground under ourfeet changing, uh, and I don't
think it's changing for the better.So with that said, I have opened
up a wide range of conversation.You can take this in any direction you
want. Six one, seven,two, five, four, ten thirty
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six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. I think
it's interesting I wrote and perhaps plannedto have all of these demonstrations begin for
real in this the week of thepassover celebration, join the conversation. Whatever
your point of view. If youare like me and you stand with Israel,
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you would denounce these protesters and supportif Amas I and I hope you
will join me. If you thinkwe're wrong, and you think that these
protests are wonderful, you can joinus as well. All points of view
are welcome here on Night's side.I've got some open lines six one,
seven, two, five, fourthirty and six one seven, nine,
three, one, ten thirty.Couple of folks dropped off, Let's fill
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them up back after this. Nowback to Dan Ray live from the Window
World, Nice Sight Studios. I'mWBZ News Radio. Protesters appear to be
arrested in the Senator Chuck Schumer's homein Brooklyn tonight. A New York Police
Department spokesman did not immediately have reportsof how many people are arrested at the
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demonstration in the Park Slope neighborhood,whire rest were occurring as the situation was
ongoing. Free Free Palestine. Awoman in assured reading not in our Name
yelled as she was taken away bypolice. Tonight. Video from NBC New
York showed the group has called theiraction an emergency passover Satyr. The group
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says they are the Jewish Voice forPeace and said thousands converged near Shuman's residents
to send a message about US militaryaid during a war that has killed more
than thirty thousand people in Gaza,According of course, to health officials,
there in a place which is runby Jimas. Go to the phones.
Let's go to Paul in South Boston. Paul, you first this hour of
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nightside. Thanks for calling in.Paul, go right ahead. Oh geez,
I'm christ Dan. Yes, sir, you're leading off. What's your
thought on this? You you oldenough to remember nineteen sixty eight. No,
I was three years old in nineteensixty eight. But I've watched I've
watched videos of what took place backthen. But I disagree with you.
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I don't think there's no similarity betweenwhat's going on today and what happened in
nineteen sixty eight. I think it'smore corroding now than it was back in
nineteen sixty eight. They hate.I don't think you have that hate necessarily
pointed at a group of people likeyou do today. Do you agree?
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Well, I think that you canlook at the demonstrations and view them as
being hateful towards Israel, right,that's right, yeah, or or you
can view them as being people who, you know, their point of view
would be there supporting Palestine or whatthey perceive as Palestine. So you know,
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again, I just think that demonstrationslike this pretty disruptive. And they're
happening six months before a presidential election. I don't know what impact they're going
to have in the presidential election oneway or the other. I mean,
they're yelling at Joe Biden. Uh, you know, genocide Joe, and
how many kids did you kill todayand all of that, and hey,
hey, Joe Biden's got to go. These are you know, he's getting
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a lot of pressure from his progressiveleft there. I mean, that's where
I would put these demonstrators. Idon't think they're conservatives, that's for sure.
There's no law and order here atall. I mean, to take
up an encampment on campus and andand have this havoc every day, Yeah,
it is just like I say,it's horrible. It's it's it's it's
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it's the most bizarre thing I've everseen. I Mean, even the protests
happening in New York City, theway they the way they treat the police
and the police apolo with I meanterrible, well that they were they were
beating up on police in New YorkCity. I mean, there's I've seen
some videos tonight on one of theI think it was on ABC. Uh
was that the one being beat oneof the offices being beaten over the head
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with a with a water bottle.Well he's being beaten over the head with
a big empty water Now he's gota helmet on, so they're probably not
doing a lot of damage. Butjust the symbolism of this to me is
uh is amazing when you look atit. It said that a demonstration at
New York University. Now NYU isa great school, Okay, or at
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least it was a great school onMonday night turned chaotic, with the New
York Police Department reporting their officers werepelted with bottles after the university called them
to assist with dispersing the growing crowd. I mean, can I ask you
one more thing? Sure weird?Does this end? And who puts a
stop to it? I don't know. I don't know that it ends.
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I don't know what happens. Imean it has not turned extremely violent yet.
If you remember the BLM demonstrations intwenty twenty after the murder of George
Floyd, you had, you know, block city blocks burned in different cities
around the country. That's that's Ihope it doesn't get to that. I
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hope it doesn't get to that.But but this has got to get under
control at some point. People wantto express themselves, that fine, that's
fine, but they can't intimidate Jewishstudents and prevent Jewish kids from from going
to college and and and completing theirtheir their academic requirements. This is there's
some bad stuff going on, simplesimple as that, Dan, And I'll
say this, and I'll let yougo. I stand with Israel. There's
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no way that we can eat anyof us can imagine what Israel has been
under has undergone for the last decades. Not just the Limfit had four wars
to defend themselves. This is arelatively small piece of land. They have
offered a state to Palestine and thePalestine authority has refused that. I mean,
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and then the timing of this waswas this war not going on in
November, in December, in Januaryand now pass over a week. It
blows up up. I think thatI think that this is this is playing
to the worst instincts in a lotof people. In mind that tiny country,
Dan, they have been nothing morethan commendating to their Muslim Nabis in
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the last seventy years. But that'smy opinion. No, that's mine as
well. No good deed goes unpunished. Thank you, Paul, Thank you
so much, appreciate it. Pauldid a great job leading off for us.
We'll the only line up but nowsix one, seven, two,
four, ten thirty. That's theone that Paul was on. I got
Thomas, Doreen, Dan and Sandycoming up. My name is Dan Ray.
This is Nightside. I'm feeling it'sa lot like nineteen sixty eight.
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You can agree or disagree. Feelfree. The lines are now full.
Coming back on Nightside. It's NightSide with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
I was just checking some of thewire services. Here's one that came
up. Just about seven minutes ago. College campuses across the country become home
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to protest and encampments against Israel's waron Gaza, leading to hundreds of arrest
The protesters across the numerous universities callingfor permanency's fire and university investment from companies
making money off the war, accordingto Reuters. Additionally, there are also
demanding the US stops that the USstops military assistance for Israel, and that
disciplined student or faculty protesters are givenamnesty, per the Outlet. In one
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high profile case at Columbia University inNew York, more than one hundred people
arrested Thursday as students and faculty protestedthe university's Israel based investments. The demonstration's
maror a week of protest at theuniversity in nineteen sixty eight over the Vietnam
War, which led to more thanseven hundred arrests and nearly one hundred and
fifty reported injuries. That's kind ofwhat I said about ten minutes ago.
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Now on the wires, let's keepgoing here. We are going to Doreen
and Chelsea. Doreen, you arenext on NISIK. Go right ahead,
Hi Dan, Hi, Doreen.I'm really discussed in what's going on me
too. I mean, I wasn'ta college student. I did how high
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school and I worked, and Ithink all these college people are a bunch
of fanatics. They should get upand get a job and really work,
because they wouldn't know how to doit. A lot a lot of them,
a lot of them are infused witharrogance because they're they're virtue. In
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many cases, there their their kidswho have been born to uh you know,
parents who have college degrees and they'vebeen primed to go to college,
and they think that their God's giftto the universe, and they're anything but
right, and they're just the thingis, But the thing is, we
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all know that it is a religiouswar. They've been fighting so many many,
many many years and it's never goingto end. And it's territorial.
It's land too, of course,and that's going on with the whole world
today. Everything is drug, everythingis money and power, and it's too
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bad. Such a beautiful world,such a beautiful countries we have, but
now it's all destroyed and it's goingto take a long time for repair,
if any if they can repair,well, everybody, we can only hope.
I hope. I got a lotof wisdom in a couple of minutes
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of conversation. Thanks Irene, appreciateit. Thank you. I have a
great night. Let me go toBob in California. Bob, you were
next to a nightsiger right ahead?Yeah, Dan, how you doing,
Okay, I'm doing great, Bob, welcome, Yeah, thank you.
Yeah. I think Terreen pretty muchsummed up uh my feeling too. That
not to be negative, but we'vedegenerated into complete chaos. Your point.
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I believe it's role taking. Theseare spoiled kids from influent parents. The
country is so divided right now,Okay, one hundred million plus one hundred
million plus people in poverty, rightthen you have a top twenty percent,
thirty percent upper middle class that aredisconnected, that could care less about the
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problems of the one hundred million thathave nothing. I mean, we're so
divided in so many ways, it'sit's terrifying. And you have an infusion
of about anywhere from you know,ten to twelve million people coming over the
border in the last three or fouryears, with really not much of of
information about who they are and whattheir purpose is coming here. Uh.
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And you see you see now poorpeople in Chicago calling for the for the
removal of the mayor Brandon Johnson.We've had examples here where it's not well
off communities that are asked to housethese illegal immigrants, these migrants or these
these newcomers as like to go therelegal legs. Yeah with you, but
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just you know, making sure everybody'sphraseology is considered here, uh and and
acknowledged. But it's it's a drainon money. We have problems here in
Massachusetts. We talked the last twohours. The Governor's office apparently is holding
some funds for that are critical tomaintaining a beach north of Boston called Salisbury
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Beach, right, And part ofthat is that we're spending on billion dollars
a year on accommodating legals here,illegals here in Massachusetts, and they are
only being housed in poor communities.They're not being housed in some of our
more wealthy suburbs. So that reinforcesyour point that the folks who are really
living comfortably, they're not impacted bythis. People live like Doreen and Chelsea.
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Yep. And by the way,it should we should publicize the names
of those hotels that are taking themoney from the government and housing the illegals.
Town should be named as to whothey are. We've done that here
and will continue to do that.Do you have my word? On that.
Yeah. Yeah, and the factto your point, you know,
break the law. We're going toreward people who break the law. That's
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what we're doing. You know,it's we'll certainly not going to punish them,
that's for sure. Yeah, that'sthat's like, do you have a
feel that we're we're kind of there'sa nineteen sixty eight feeling in the air.
I really am starting to pick thatup. I don't know. If
you agree with me and disagree withme, yes, feel free. I
agree with you and I say Iagree with you one hundred percent, and
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I again not being negative, butI think we're hitting We're already there on
a slippery slope to another revolution likeviolence and revolution this election. Should Trump
lose, you know, the whackerdoodles on the far right will say,
they'll say again it was raked,the election was raped. Okay. If
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Trump wins, which I think hewill, you know, it's I don't
know what to say. I mean, the last start I'll have on this
call. Last week, I thinkyou'll laugh at us. Last week I
saw an article that Hillary Clinton waswarning us about Donald Trump getting back in
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and I'm looking at it thinking HillaryClinton really that's a real credible source.
You know, she just won't goaway. She's like a bad rash,
just won't go away. You wayto describe that. Hey, thanks,
Bob, appreciate you call much.Talk soon. Gonna go now to Thomas
a little closer to home in Boston, Thomas neck On Nicksig go ahead.
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Oh yes, I just wanted tosay that I'm a centrist Democrat, but
I agree with mister Kraft wholeheartedly.I really feel like our universities have lost
their way and instead of educating peopleand allowing differences of opinion and disagreement,
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it's more about and doctrinating people tobelieve everybody believes the same thing. And
I just wholeheartedly did not agree withthat. Well, most universities, Thomas,
and as a centrist Democrat, mostuniversities will talk about the need for
diversity, equity, and inclusion.There's no diversity of thought. Okay,
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there's no diversity. There's a milliondiversities we have, you know, one
hundred and twenty gender affiliations that peoplecan claim in terms of equity. Equity
is different from equality. Equality meansyou and I start a race and we
race for one hundred yards and whoeverwins wins. Equity means if you're a
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really fast runner, you start fromthe starting line, and I start about
halfway up, about fifty yards up, and we finish at the same race,
we both we tie. That's equity. An inclusion is look at these
universities. Yeah, how many bluecollar kids get a chance to go to
these universities. I don't think youknow many of them do. And I
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think I think we're headed for towardsa nasty summer here in America similar to
nineteen sixty eight. Well, Ihope things calm down somewhat, and I
think the country as a whole coulduse a little pie. No kidding,
no kidding. Thomas, loved youcall. Please keep calling the program.
Have I heard from you before,Yes, one time before. But I
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appreciate you taking my call. Dad. Well, I would appreciate if you
come back more often, because Iwant to get as many different points of
view on in this program. Iwant. I really, I have my
point of view, Thomas. Youknow, I'm kind of a writer of
Senate Conservative Guide, Okay, butI have a lot of friends on the
Democratic side, on the Republican side, and I want to hear different points
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of view on my program, andas long as we can ever rest much
reasonable conversation, it works out perfectly. So keep calling. Okay, thanks
Thomas, much appreciated. I havea great night. Let's keep rolling here.
Going to go next to where arewe going to go next to?
Let me see, I think we'regonna go next to Dan in Hampton,
New Hampshire. Dan, welcome.I assume that's Hampton, New Hampshire,
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not Hampton, Virginia. Go ahead, Dan, Yeah it is okay.
Yeah, you were speaking of thesixty eight election, Dan, and how
Wallace took those southern states. Butyeah, he took those southern states.
And I also think that he tookenough votes in some of the margin.
And I haven't done a deep diveon this, but my recollection was that
there were some states that maybe Wallacetook enough votes away from, which because
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at that point the South was fairlydemocratic. I mean, you had lesdramatics
of Georgia. Farbst was in Arkansas, Wallace was in you know, they
were all democratic governors down there,and then it switched. But I think
that Wallace not only might have takena few states, but he also might
have cost Humphrey a few states.Go ahead, that's all the point I
wanted to make. Well, thepoint I want to make that Dan did
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not all those same states also votefor Goldwater, and that was for the
first time that part of the countrybecame Republican. There were four states that
voted for gold War. I thinkArizona. I can go back and double
check. I think Goldwater won Arizona. And then there were a couple of
Southern states. I know, hewon Georgia. Yeah, I'm just going
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on them memory. Yeah, goahead, I'll look up. Yeah,
there was goldwaterhead. You know,Johnson had signed the civil Rights legislation in
sixty eight, right, you know. So yeah, but again I with
Goldwater, Goldwater, you know,he was a route I mean Johnson in
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the in the wake of Kennedy's assassination. Goldwater won Arizona, he won Louisiana,
he won South Carolina, Georgia,Mississippi, and Alabama. Yeah,
there you go. So he wonfive states, and I believe and I
believe that most of those states,certainly that was he was the first Republican
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to ever win those states. Well, I'd have to go back and see
how well I know how red ifI look at well, if I look
at if I look in the nineteenfifty six election, I will bet you.
Let's see, Stevenson probably was holdingsome of the Democratic states in the
South. But I can pop thisup real quickly and we'll be able to
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confirm exactly what you said here,Uncoln. And then Stevenson. Stevenson won
Virginia. Excuse me, he wonNorth Carolina, missus Stevenson now North Carolina,
South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi,Arkansas, Uh, Arkansas, uh,
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Missouri uh. And yes, inLouisiana, so he won. Stevenson
in fifty six won three four,six, seven states all Democrats. Wow,
Democrats. And he won those sevenstates. Well, remember, well,
I think if you look at Dan, that was the way it always
had been. The Democrats always wonin those states until nineteen sixty four.
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Right, But then when Wallace ranas an independent, Wallace was a Democrat.
Wallace was not a Republican. Wallacewas. Yeah, but let's Stomatics
was a Democrat to Dan. Theydidn't want they all were. They didn't
have Republicans in that part of thecountry for a hundred years. No,
I understand that I just well,the South hated Lincoln, hated the Republican
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Party. Uh, rubout that.I mean, we go to go ahead,
Okay, all I'm gonna I'll justsay with this, you know,
the hate, it's always been aproblem. But I remember I was only
I'll tell the story as quickly asI can. I remember in nineteen sixty
I was maybe four years old,but my parents had an election party in
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the neighborhood and there were people therethat were some more for Nixon, some
more for Kennedy, and my asit turned out, my next door,
our next door neighbor, was forNixon, my dad was for Kennedy,
and the two of them sat upthrough the wee hours of the morning until
Kennedy was finally called. They shookhands, and you know, that's the
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way it should be. I can'tnow Trump he's running on hate and well
again I think I think that's adangerous thing to say. And the reason
is that, first of all,at this point, the polls show Trump
and Biden kind of fifty to fifty. Yeah. Now, you know,
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again, I don't know how theelection is going to turn out, but
Trump has has probably more black supporters, particularly about black men than any Republican
in recent time. So how doyou explain that one? I can't.
Yeah, you know that's a fact. By the way, just Wallace Carry
carried Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi,Louisiana, and Arkansas. So he carried
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five states, right, And actuallyyou know he carried five states. Ross
Purout carried Narry a state and hegot nineteen percent of the vote. So
it's going to be really interesting,you know, as to how this goes.
It's a funny, but I wouldsay not not to keep kicking the
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same horse that Wallace probably did more. Damn, those states probably would have
went to Nixon had Wallace Smot beenaround, just like just like they went
to Goldwater. I think the samestates the voted for gold Water in sixty
four also world voted for Nixon insixty eight. Okay, well, again
there's no analogy that can be precise. But I'm telling you, I think
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that I'm beginning to feel like we'rein the nineteen sixty eight sort of time
warp. That's all I'm saying.You know, demonstrations here comes the democ
are going to be in Chicago intwenty in twenty twenty four, I mean
that could be a that could bean ugly, ugly convention. We will
see, we will see. Theycould both be ugly. Okay, Hey,
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Dan, I thank you for yourcall. I got to run here,
got to get some more calls in. I got a couple more commercial
spots. Thank you so much.Okay, Thanks, I have a great
night. Keep calling the show.Coming back on Nightside right after this quick
break. Now back to Dan RayLive from the Window World Night Sike Studios
on WBZ News Radio. Yeah,looking at the seventy sixth election, which
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is really interesting. Jimmy Carter oneTexas, Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi,
Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina,Uh, North Carolina, Kentucky. Uh
at Tennessee. H It's excuse mesaid my mistake, my mistake, Carter
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in I misread that. Uh No, I did not mis read. They've
they've flipped it around us here.Those are the states the Carter won,
Florida and Texas. Ford carried theentire West, including including California. It's
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amazing how the states have flipped overtime. All right, let's try to
get everybody in go to go toSandy and West Roxbury Sandy, we're tight
on time. Go ahead, Sandy. Well, I have so many things
I want to say, so I'mnot gonna say too much because I know
you're gonna have enough time. ButI agree with you on almost everything.
And I love that lady. Ithink her name is the Ring. I
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mean, if these kids, theydon't know what it is like to work,
to know, if you want something, you have to pay for it,
and you know, try to geta kid to settle. These days,
they don't do it, you know. And I mean when I was
a kid, if I want,you know, I got basic allowance to
you know, get to school andthings like that. But I mean we
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had to work and and that wasnormal. I mean that's a lot of
kids are doing. And of courseI stand totally with Israel and these people
that are supporting him as they haveno idea what they're doing. I mean,
they have no clue. Well,I think some of them do know
what from the River to the Seameans. Others that don't have. What
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I mean is they don't know whatHamas will do to them. If I'm
not it would win, if itwon't, I mean, they don't understand
what it would be like. Tolive under hamas of course not of course,
no, they have no education andthat's the problem, and they certainly
aren't getting into colleges these days.Sandy, I got a roll here.
Thank you much. Thanks, Sandy, appreciated. Okay, Tony and I
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will go ahead, Tony. Let'ssee how long your last Go ahead,
Tony. Yeah, there, goingback to the when you were mentioning the
two callers before about you know,the Republican Party started in Wisconsin in eighteen
fifty four to abolish slavery. Anyway, for that call or two callers ago,
I can't remember his name, butso that's how the Republican Party started.
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And when when Johnson signed the Billof Civil Rights, it was a
Republican Congress, a Republican Senate thatput it through the Civil Rights Bill,
and also Martin Luther King was aRepublican, so he shouldn't be surprised at
all why blacks are jumping to theRepublican Party, especially in Chicago where I'm
from. In fact, I wishw b Z would give you a budget
so you could bring your show onthe road, because you people are in
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New England are so clueless of what'sgoing on. In the rest of this
country, it's Trump signs everywhere.There are no Biden signs. In the
South side of Chicago. The blackcommunity is endorsing Trump. They did.
You just see to open your eyes. People, go online, stop with
the fake news, Stop watching mainstreamtelevision, go online, get your information,
make an informed decision. You knowhere what everyone has to say that,
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Tony, they're always going to getall points of view one night side.
I hope you realize that. Well, they'll get points of view.
That doesn't mean they're going to getthe prism of the false news from from
BC. You guys don't report everythingproperly, but that's you know, you
guys are a leftis the station anyway. But anyway, long enough, have
a great night, Tony, letme go. So we go from Tony
to Jeff and wal Dame. Jeffgetting tight on time, Go ahead,
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Jeff. Okay. Then I justwanted to pose a question for you,
what are these uh self styled intellectualsgoing to get the backstory right? Because
let's face it, it was thiskind of genocideology, hotism and the likes
of it that sparked off Israeli militancyfrom the outset including the land season.
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What are they going to get historyright? And once more, why don't
they get a life? If there'sa humanitarian why don't they lift the finger
for this oppressed Tibetans by the chain, need other the downtrodden people throughout the
world. Why do they they wantto go after the big Satan of the
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little Satan. We're the big Satan. Israel is the little Satan. Yeah,
it's that right. It's pathetic andit's shameful. All right. I
agree with you totally. And Jeff, please, I hope you have a
happiness we pass over this week.Okay, thank you very much. Thank
you friend. Let me go nextto Rick and Bill Rick of Rick will
be fast, I'll be fast.I'd like what Jeff just said. And
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well, Sam, I'll piggyback onhim. Very well said first of all,
Robert Kraft as class. Thank youRobert Kraft for making a stand.
Secondly, I'm not going to arguethat it's not like nineteen sixty eight,
but at least the kids were demonstratingfor a good reason. I mean,
no one wanted to go to Vietnam. People on both sides of the political
I will agree that Vietnam was amistake. We're afraid of communism, but
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the spread of communism, but itwas, it was, It was a
mistake. The Kings today no morethan Drick. Here's the deal, real
Rick, I got twenty seconds leftbefore I got to get out of the
way for a network newscaster. Igot to let you go to the callers
in the line. I apologize,but we're done for the night. We
will end as always, All dogs, all cats, all pets go to
heaven. That's my pal Charlie rayIs, who passed fourteen years ago on
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February. And February that's where yourpets are who passed. They loved you
and you love them. I dobelieve you'll see them again. Rob.
Great job, Marita, great job. Thanks to all the callers, particularly
thanks to all the listeners. Seetomorrow I'll be on Facebook nights Time with
Dan Ray in just a couple ofminutes. Have a great Wednesday, everybody,
It's nice with Ray Oneasy Boston Radio, but we get a lot to cover
in the last hour, and thisis one that I think most of you
want to get in on. Wehave seen in the last few days,
in the days approaching the Passover celebrationin the Jewish community. I hope all
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members of the Jewish community, manyof whom probably are not listening tonight,
because it is a very important holidayseason for Jewish people. But if you
are listening, happy to be Jewish. I wish you a happy and sweet
Passover. This week has seen therevival of college campus demonstrations across the country
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and the arrogance of the students.And as a matter of fact, I
was talking with a friend of minetoday about these students who are saying,
we're here and we're not going anywhereuntil all of our demands are met,
and we insist that Israel basically goout of business. We don't care.
The anti Semitism, the anti Zionism, the anti Israeli spirit that we have
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seen displayed this week, in thelast couple of weeks is very frightening.
Classes at Columbia's main main campus aregoing to be hybrid. Students are afraid
to actually Jewish students to go onto the campus. Now, Columbia University
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has set a midnight, a midnight deadline tonight to reach a deal with
pro Palestinian protesters about clearing out theircampus encampment. President Cheffique. Cheffique said
administrators are talking with student organizers aboutdismantling the encampment, dispersing in fireollowing university
policies going forward. Those talks arefacing a midlight, midnight deadline tonight to
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reach agreement. I wouldn't give hima deadline. I'd say, if you're
not if you were not off thiscampus, if you were not a student
on this campus, and you werenot off this campus in a in an
hour, you will be arrested.Number one, if you happen to be
a student, if you were stillat this little encampment that that you have,
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you you will be suspended as astudent and your your status as a
student may be revoked, I meanexpel, expulsion. Bob Kraft, the
owner of the New England Patriots,has taken some pretty dramatic steps, and
I want to say that's off toBob Kraft. Okay, Rob, I
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got some soundbites from Bob Craft,and he's talking about Columbia, where he
was an undergraduate. Uh. Andso I'd like to play a couple of
those sound bites at least to getthe conversation started, because it's not only
happening at Columbia. It's happening atthe University of Michigan. It's happening here
at MIT, it's happening here atTufts, it's happening here at Emerson College.
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And I'm beginning to get a sensethat maybe we are in a time
warp and we're back in nineteen sixtyeight. I'll explain that theory in a
moment, but in the meantime,Rob, if you would be so kind,
let's play Cup thirty eight. Thisis Bob Kraft, the owner of
the New England Patriots, who hasnow said he will withhold his financial support
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to Columbia, his undergraduate university.This great country that offers so many opportunities
to our families who came here asimmigrants, and we have to keep it
open. We can't have this intimidationthat's filtering through all these colleges, and
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I hate continue to grow and multiplythe way it is. And Kraft goes
on to make a point which Ihave made, and that is this point
in cut thirty nine. There area lot of people who know right from
wrong on this issue of Hamas versusIsrael, but a lot of Americans are
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being silent. There were a lotof Germans who were silent in the nineteen
thirties, and you saw how thatended. Cut thirty nine, Rob,
look at America. We've done researchand it shows ninety percent of the people
in this country are good people.They just have to be educated, and
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we can have them apathetic or misguided. We have to let them know and
they have to stand out and notbe silent. Here here on that Bob
Craft. And then Craft does makean illusion as I just made to Germany
in the nineteen thirties, there's alot of people who kind of turn and
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look the other way. It isnot time to turn and look the other
way, folks. Cut forty please, Rob. It starts with his Jews,
but then every group that feels marginalized, whill it be Blacks, Asians,
Hispanics, gay people. It'll justreally impact the great fabric of this
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country where people have freedom to operateand go the way they want and now
we have hatred and intimidation taking over. And then Bob Kraft kind of brings
it back to where he started andhe talks about how Columbia has changed and
how a lot of the elite IvyLeague schools have changed, and he hits
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the nail on the head here thatprofessors need to once again start teaching people
and students how to think, howto be rational, not impressing upon them
what they should think. This hascut forty ones Patriots. Only when I
went to Columbia, it was aplace where people listen, where ampathetic had
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compassion. And now you know,we have professors who, instead of teaching
how to think that they're trying totell our young people what they should think.
And I think one of the biggestproblems that we have to do something
about is really tenure in these universitieswhere people can do things and don't have
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accountability. Yeah. I mean,how many jobs out there in the world
do you have tenure? Not many? Not many? And as I don't
have tenure, I don't think youhave tenure. I don't think Bob Kraft
is tenured. Now he owns thePatriots, but he had to work to
own the Patriots, and he towork to make sure that he hired the
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people at the Patriots. The wholequestion of his relationship with Bill Belichick.
Will put that aside for now.The reason I think this might be a
night, it might be the beginningto feel like nineteen sixty eight is this
and I want to get your commentson this. In nineteen sixty eight,
all of a sudden, campuses eruptedwith violence and threats and intimidation. That
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was over the Vietnam War. Thisis over a war on the other side
of the world as well, butnot a war in which American troops are
involved in a war between Hamas andIsrael. We have no concept of what
it's like to live in Israel tobe under conscious of compartment. So anyway,
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when you look at the political landscapenow, in nineteen sixty eight,
we had a vice president who becamethe nominee of the Democratic Party in Hubert
Humphrey after Robert F. Kennedy Juniorwas assassinated. And once again I will
say Joe Biden should be giving SecretService protection of Bobby Kennedy Junior. Period.
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Not to do that, and thatis a decision that apparently is coming
out of homeland security is vile andcowardly, but we'll put that aside for
a moment. You have Hubert Humphrey, never been president. There are some
who look at Joe Biden and althoughlike myself believe he was elected in twenty
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twenty, I don't know he's functioningas president. I think there are others
who are running his administration, butput that aside. In nineteen sixty eight,
there was a very interesting and potentiallydangerous third party candidate, George Wallace.
He won several states, and actuallyhe did better than Ross Perot.
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He actually won states. His supportwas concentrated in the South, and many
people believe that he took very importantstates away from the Democratic nominee and maybe
in other states gave states, someof the border states to Richard Nixon.
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Here this year, we have athird party candidate in Bobby Kennedy, who
also might represent a threat to JoeBiden. On the Republican side, we
have in nineteen sixty eight Richard Nixon, who was disliked intensely by many people,
including people in the media. Todaywe have Donald Trump, who's disliked
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by intensely by many people, includingI think people in the media is watching
CNN today, they were doing aplay by play. They were thrilled every
time there was a comment that wascritical of Donald Trump that came up,
which is fine. That's they cando what they can do what they want.
We have, again as a backdropupheaval on campuses which eventually might spread
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during an election year. I thinkthere's some similarities the Democratic National Convention which
was the disaster in nineteen sixty eightin Chicago. Remember Richard Daley and others
yelling at Abe Ribakoff who was onthe stage at on the podium and the
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platform at the Democratic National Convention.Where will the Democratic National Convention be this
year? Chicago, a city thathas its own set of problems with immigration
right now. So there's some similaritieshere. Now the Republicans would be in
Milwaukee. In sixty eight, theywere in Miami, so they're not the
same city. They both begin withthe letter M. I'm just saying,
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I'm beginning to see that maybe weare going towards an election which is now
pretty close to six months away.We have May, full months of May,
June, July, August, September, and October, and we're there,
so we're getting close to the sixthmonth mark. I don't know what's
going to happen to Trump and NewYork. I have no idea how that's
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going to play. I have noidea if if he will be the nominee.
At this point he has the delegates. But what happens if he gets
convicted. What happens if he getsto put in jail? What happens if
Joe Biden all of a sudden onthe fourth of July says he's decided that
he's done uh, and leaves itto the delegates of the Democratic National Convention.
Maybe you could have Bernie Sanders asthe as the Democratic nominee. The
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point is that that there's a lotthat isn't set in stone, and right
now I feel the ground under ourfeet changing, uh, and I don't
think it's changing for the better.So with that said, I have opened
up a wide range of conversation.You can take this in any direction you
want. Six one, seven,two, five, four, ten thirty
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six one seven, nine, three, one, ten thirty. I think
it's interesting I wrote and perhaps plannedto have all of these demonstrations begin for
real in this the week of thepassover celebration, join the conversation. Whatever
your point of view. If youare like me and you stand with Israel,
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you would denounce these protesters and supportif Amas I and I hope you
will join me. If you thinkwe're wrong, and you think that these
protests are wonderful, you can joinus as well. All points of view
are welcome here on Night's side.I've got some open lines six one,
seven, two, five, fourthirty and six one seven, nine,
three, one, ten thirty.Couple of folks dropped off, Let's fill
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them up back after this. Nowback to Dan Ray live from the Window
World, Nice Sight Studios. I'mWBZ News Radio. Protesters appear to be
arrested in the Senator Chuck Schumer's homein Brooklyn tonight. A New York Police
Department spokesman did not immediately have reportsof how many people are arrested at the
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demonstration in the Park Slope neighborhood,whire rest were occurring as the situation was
ongoing. Free Free Palestine. Awoman in assured reading not in our Name
yelled as she was taken away bypolice. Tonight. Video from NBC New
York showed the group has called theiraction an emergency passover Satyr. The group
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says they are the Jewish Voice forPeace and said thousands converged near Shuman's residents
to send a message about US militaryaid during a war that has killed more
than thirty thousand people in Gaza,According of course, to health officials,
there in a place which is runby Jimas. Go to the phones.
Let's go to Paul in South Boston. Paul, you first this hour of
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nightside. Thanks for calling in.Paul, go right ahead. Oh geez,
I'm christ Dan. Yes, sir, you're leading off. What's your
thought on this? You you oldenough to remember nineteen sixty eight. No,
I was three years old in nineteensixty eight. But I've watched I've
watched videos of what took place backthen. But I disagree with you.
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I don't think there's no similarity betweenwhat's going on today and what happened in
nineteen sixty eight. I think it'smore corroding now than it was back in
nineteen sixty eight. They hate.I don't think you have that hate necessarily
pointed at a group of people likeyou do today. Do you agree?
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Well, I think that you canlook at the demonstrations and view them as
being hateful towards Israel, right,that's right, yeah, or or you
can view them as being people who, you know, their point of view
would be there supporting Palestine or whatthey perceive as Palestine. So you know,
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again, I just think that demonstrationslike this pretty disruptive. And they're
happening six months before a presidential election. I don't know what impact they're going
to have in the presidential election oneway or the other. I mean,
they're yelling at Joe Biden. Uh, you know, genocide Joe, and
how many kids did you kill todayand all of that, and hey,
hey, Joe Biden's got to go. These are you know, he's getting
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a lot of pressure from his progressiveleft there. I mean, that's where
I would put these demonstrators. Idon't think they're conservatives, that's for sure.
There's no law and order here atall. I mean, to take
up an encampment on campus and andand have this havoc every day, Yeah,
it is just like I say,it's horrible. It's it's it's it's
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it's the most bizarre thing I've everseen. I Mean, even the protests
happening in New York City, theway they the way they treat the police
and the police apolo with I meanterrible, well that they were they were
beating up on police in New YorkCity. I mean, there's I've seen
some videos tonight on one of theI think it was on ABC. Uh
was that the one being beat oneof the offices being beaten over the head
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with a with a water bottle.Well he's being beaten over the head with
a big empty water Now he's gota helmet on, so they're probably not
doing a lot of damage. Butjust the symbolism of this to me is
uh is amazing when you look atit. It said that a demonstration at
New York University. Now NYU isa great school, Okay, or at
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least it was a great school onMonday night turned chaotic, with the New
York Police Department reporting their officers werepelted with bottles after the university called them
to assist with dispersing the growing crowd. I mean, can I ask you
one more thing? Sure weird?Does this end? And who puts a
stop to it? I don't know. I don't know that it ends.
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I don't know what happens. Imean it has not turned extremely violent yet.
If you remember the BLM demonstrations intwenty twenty after the murder of George
Floyd, you had, you know, block city blocks burned in different cities
around the country. That's that's Ihope it doesn't get to that. I
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hope it doesn't get to that.But but this has got to get under
control at some point. People wantto express themselves, that fine, that's
fine, but they can't intimidate Jewishstudents and prevent Jewish kids from from going
to college and and and completing theirtheir their academic requirements. This is there's
some bad stuff going on, simplesimple as that, Dan, And I'll
say this, and I'll let yougo. I stand with Israel. There's
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no way that we can eat anyof us can imagine what Israel has been
under has undergone for the last decades. Not just the Limfit had four wars
to defend themselves. This is arelatively small piece of land. They have
offered a state to Palestine and thePalestine authority has refused that. I mean,
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and then the timing of this waswas this war not going on in
November, in December, in Januaryand now pass over a week. It
blows up up. I think thatI think that this is this is playing
to the worst instincts in a lotof people. In mind that tiny country,
Dan, they have been nothing morethan commendating to their Muslim Nabis in
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the last seventy years. But that'smy opinion. No, that's mine as
well. No good deed goes unpunished. Thank you, Paul, Thank you
so much, appreciate it. Pauldid a great job leading off for us.
We'll the only line up but nowsix one, seven, two,
four, ten thirty. That's theone that Paul was on. I got
Thomas, Doreen, Dan and Sandycoming up. My name is Dan Ray.
This is Nightside. I'm feeling it'sa lot like nineteen sixty eight.
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You can agree or disagree. Feelfree. The lines are now full.
Coming back on Nightside. It's NightSide with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
I was just checking some of thewire services. Here's one that came
up. Just about seven minutes ago. College campuses across the country become home
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to protest and encampments against Israel's waron Gaza, leading to hundreds of arrest
The protesters across the numerous universities callingfor permanency's fire and university investment from companies
making money off the war, accordingto Reuters. Additionally, there are also
demanding the US stops that the USstops military assistance for Israel, and that
disciplined student or faculty protesters are givenamnesty, per the Outlet. In one
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high profile case at Columbia University inNew York, more than one hundred people
arrested Thursday as students and faculty protestedthe university's Israel based investments. The demonstration's
maror a week of protest at theuniversity in nineteen sixty eight over the Vietnam
War, which led to more thanseven hundred arrests and nearly one hundred and
fifty reported injuries. That's kind ofwhat I said about ten minutes ago.
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Now on the wires, let's keepgoing here. We are going to Doreen
and Chelsea. Doreen, you arenext on NISIK. Go right ahead,
Hi Dan, Hi, Doreen.I'm really discussed in what's going on me
too. I mean, I wasn'ta college student. I did how high
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school and I worked, and Ithink all these college people are a bunch
of fanatics. They should get upand get a job and really work,
because they wouldn't know how to doit. A lot a lot of them,
a lot of them are infused witharrogance because they're they're virtue. In
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many cases, there their their kidswho have been born to uh you know,
parents who have college degrees and they'vebeen primed to go to college,
and they think that their God's giftto the universe, and they're anything but
right, and they're just the thingis, But the thing is, we
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all know that it is a religiouswar. They've been fighting so many many,
many many years and it's never goingto end. And it's territorial.
It's land too, of course,and that's going on with the whole world
today. Everything is drug, everythingis money and power, and it's too
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bad. Such a beautiful world,such a beautiful countries we have, but
now it's all destroyed and it's goingto take a long time for repair,
if any if they can repair,well, everybody, we can only hope.
I hope. I got a lotof wisdom in a couple of minutes
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of conversation. Thanks Irene, appreciateit. Thank you. I have a
great night. Let me go toBob in California. Bob, you were
next to a nightsiger right ahead?Yeah, Dan, how you doing,
Okay, I'm doing great, Bob, welcome, Yeah, thank you.
Yeah. I think Terreen pretty muchsummed up uh my feeling too. That
not to be negative, but we'vedegenerated into complete chaos. Your point.
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I believe it's role taking. Theseare spoiled kids from influent parents. The
country is so divided right now,Okay, one hundred million plus one hundred
million plus people in poverty, rightthen you have a top twenty percent,
thirty percent upper middle class that aredisconnected, that could care less about the
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problems of the one hundred million thathave nothing. I mean, we're so
divided in so many ways, it'sit's terrifying. And you have an infusion
of about anywhere from you know,ten to twelve million people coming over the
border in the last three or fouryears, with really not much of of
information about who they are and whattheir purpose is coming here. Uh.
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And you see you see now poorpeople in Chicago calling for the for the
removal of the mayor Brandon Johnson.We've had examples here where it's not well
off communities that are asked to housethese illegal immigrants, these migrants or these
these newcomers as like to go therelegal legs. Yeah with you, but
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just you know, making sure everybody'sphraseology is considered here, uh and and
acknowledged. But it's it's a drainon money. We have problems here in
Massachusetts. We talked the last twohours. The Governor's office apparently is holding
some funds for that are critical tomaintaining a beach north of Boston called Salisbury
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Beach, right, And part ofthat is that we're spending on billion dollars
a year on accommodating legals here,illegals here in Massachusetts, and they are
only being housed in poor communities.They're not being housed in some of our
more wealthy suburbs. So that reinforcesyour point that the folks who are really
living comfortably, they're not impacted bythis. People live like Doreen and Chelsea.
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Yep. And by the way,it should we should publicize the names
of those hotels that are taking themoney from the government and housing the illegals.
Town should be named as to whothey are. We've done that here
and will continue to do that.Do you have my word? On that.
Yeah. Yeah, and the factto your point, you know,
break the law. We're going toreward people who break the law. That's
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what we're doing. You know,it's we'll certainly not going to punish them,
that's for sure. Yeah, that'sthat's like, do you have a
feel that we're we're kind of there'sa nineteen sixty eight feeling in the air.
I really am starting to pick thatup. I don't know. If
you agree with me and disagree withme, yes, feel free. I
agree with you and I say Iagree with you one hundred percent, and
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I again not being negative, butI think we're hitting We're already there on
a slippery slope to another revolution likeviolence and revolution this election. Should Trump
lose, you know, the whackerdoodles on the far right will say,
they'll say again it was raked,the election was raped. Okay. If
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Trump wins, which I think hewill, you know, it's I don't
know what to say. I mean, the last start I'll have on this
call. Last week, I thinkyou'll laugh at us. Last week I
saw an article that Hillary Clinton waswarning us about Donald Trump getting back in
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and I'm looking at it thinking HillaryClinton really that's a real credible source.
You know, she just won't goaway. She's like a bad rash,
just won't go away. You wayto describe that. Hey, thanks,
Bob, appreciate you call much.Talk soon. Gonna go now to Thomas
a little closer to home in Boston, Thomas neck On Nicksig go ahead.
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Oh yes, I just wanted tosay that I'm a centrist Democrat, but
I agree with mister Kraft wholeheartedly.I really feel like our universities have lost
their way and instead of educating peopleand allowing differences of opinion and disagreement,
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it's more about and doctrinating people tobelieve everybody believes the same thing. And
I just wholeheartedly did not agree withthat. Well, most universities, Thomas,
and as a centrist Democrat, mostuniversities will talk about the need for
diversity, equity, and inclusion.There's no diversity of thought. Okay,
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there's no diversity. There's a milliondiversities we have, you know, one
hundred and twenty gender affiliations that peoplecan claim in terms of equity. Equity
is different from equality. Equality meansyou and I start a race and we
race for one hundred yards and whoeverwins wins. Equity means if you're a
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really fast runner, you start fromthe starting line, and I start about
halfway up, about fifty yards up, and we finish at the same race,
we both we tie. That's equity. An inclusion is look at these
universities. Yeah, how many bluecollar kids get a chance to go to
these universities. I don't think youknow many of them do. And I
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think I think we're headed for towardsa nasty summer here in America similar to
nineteen sixty eight. Well, Ihope things calm down somewhat, and I
think the country as a whole coulduse a little pie. No kidding,
no kidding. Thomas, loved youcall. Please keep calling the program.
Have I heard from you before,Yes, one time before. But I
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appreciate you taking my call. Dad. Well, I would appreciate if you
come back more often, because Iwant to get as many different points of
view on in this program. Iwant. I really, I have my
point of view, Thomas. Youknow, I'm kind of a writer of
Senate Conservative Guide, Okay, butI have a lot of friends on the
Democratic side, on the Republican side, and I want to hear different points
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of view on my program, andas long as we can ever rest much
reasonable conversation, it works out perfectly. So keep calling. Okay, thanks
Thomas, much appreciated. I havea great night. Let's keep rolling here.
Going to go next to where arewe going to go next to?
Let me see, I think we'regonna go next to Dan in Hampton,
New Hampshire. Dan, welcome.I assume that's Hampton, New Hampshire,
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not Hampton, Virginia. Go ahead, Dan, Yeah it is okay.
Yeah, you were speaking of thesixty eight election, Dan, and how
Wallace took those southern states. Butyeah, he took those southern states.
And I also think that he tookenough votes in some of the margin.
And I haven't done a deep diveon this, but my recollection was that
there were some states that maybe Wallacetook enough votes away from, which because
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at that point the South was fairlydemocratic. I mean, you had lesdramatics
of Georgia. Farbst was in Arkansas, Wallace was in you know, they
were all democratic governors down there,and then it switched. But I think
that Wallace not only might have takena few states, but he also might
have cost Humphrey a few states.Go ahead, that's all the point I
wanted to make. Well, thepoint I want to make that Dan did
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not all those same states also votefor Goldwater, and that was for the
first time that part of the countrybecame Republican. There were four states that
voted for gold War. I thinkArizona. I can go back and double
check. I think Goldwater won Arizona. And then there were a couple of
Southern states. I know, hewon Georgia. Yeah, I'm just going
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on them memory. Yeah, goahead, I'll look up. Yeah,
there was goldwaterhead. You know,Johnson had signed the civil Rights legislation in
sixty eight, right, you know. So yeah, but again I with
Goldwater, Goldwater, you know,he was a route I mean Johnson in
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the in the wake of Kennedy's assassination. Goldwater won Arizona, he won Louisiana,
he won South Carolina, Georgia,Mississippi, and Alabama. Yeah,
there you go. So he wonfive states, and I believe and I
believe that most of those states,certainly that was he was the first Republican
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to ever win those states. Well, I'd have to go back and see
how well I know how red ifI look at well, if I look
at if I look in the nineteenfifty six election, I will bet you.
Let's see, Stevenson probably was holdingsome of the Democratic states in the
South. But I can pop thisup real quickly and we'll be able to
(30:25):
confirm exactly what you said here,Uncoln. And then Stevenson. Stevenson won
Virginia. Excuse me, he wonNorth Carolina, missus Stevenson now North Carolina,
South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi,Arkansas, Uh, Arkansas, uh,
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Missouri uh. And yes, inLouisiana, so he won. Stevenson
in fifty six won three four,six, seven states all Democrats. Wow,
Democrats. And he won those sevenstates. Well, remember, well,
I think if you look at Dan, that was the way it always
had been. The Democrats always wonin those states until nineteen sixty four.
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Right, But then when Wallace ranas an independent, Wallace was a Democrat.
Wallace was not a Republican. Wallacewas. Yeah, but let's Stomatics
was a Democrat to Dan. Theydidn't want they all were. They didn't
have Republicans in that part of thecountry for a hundred years. No,
I understand that I just well,the South hated Lincoln, hated the Republican
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Party. Uh, rubout that.I mean, we go to go ahead,
Okay, all I'm gonna I'll justsay with this, you know,
the hate, it's always been aproblem. But I remember I was only
I'll tell the story as quickly asI can. I remember in nineteen sixty
I was maybe four years old,but my parents had an election party in
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the neighborhood and there were people therethat were some more for Nixon, some
more for Kennedy, and my asit turned out, my next door,
our next door neighbor, was forNixon, my dad was for Kennedy,
and the two of them sat upthrough the wee hours of the morning until
Kennedy was finally called. They shookhands, and you know, that's the
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way it should be. I can'tnow Trump he's running on hate and well
again I think I think that's adangerous thing to say. And the reason
is that, first of all,at this point, the polls show Trump
and Biden kind of fifty to fifty. Yeah. Now, you know,
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again, I don't know how theelection is going to turn out, but
Trump has has probably more black supporters, particularly about black men than any Republican
in recent time. So how doyou explain that one? I can't.
Yeah, you know that's a fact. By the way, just Wallace Carry
carried Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi,Louisiana, and Arkansas. So he carried
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five states, right, And actuallyyou know he carried five states. Ross
Purout carried Narry a state and hegot nineteen percent of the vote. So
it's going to be really interesting,you know, as to how this goes.
It's a funny, but I wouldsay not not to keep kicking the
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same horse that Wallace probably did more. Damn, those states probably would have
went to Nixon had Wallace Smot beenaround, just like just like they went
to Goldwater. I think the samestates the voted for gold Water in sixty
four also world voted for Nixon insixty eight. Okay, well, again
there's no analogy that can be precise. But I'm telling you, I think
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that I'm beginning to feel like we'rein the nineteen sixty eight sort of time
warp. That's all I'm saying.You know, demonstrations here comes the democ
are going to be in Chicago intwenty in twenty twenty four, I mean
that could be a that could bean ugly, ugly convention. We will
see, we will see. Theycould both be ugly. Okay, Hey,
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Dan, I thank you for yourcall. I got to run here,
got to get some more calls in. I got a couple more commercial
spots. Thank you so much.Okay, Thanks, I have a great
night. Keep calling the show.Coming back on Nightside right after this quick
break. Now back to Dan RayLive from the Window World Night Sike Studios
on WBZ News Radio. Yeah,looking at the seventy sixth election, which
(34:37):
is really interesting. Jimmy Carter oneTexas, Florida, Louisiana, Mississippi,
Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina,Uh, North Carolina, Kentucky. Uh
at Tennessee. H It's excuse mesaid my mistake, my mistake, Carter
(35:02):
in I misread that. Uh No, I did not mis read. They've
they've flipped it around us here.Those are the states the Carter won,
Florida and Texas. Ford carried theentire West, including including California. It's
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amazing how the states have flipped overtime. All right, let's try to
get everybody in go to go toSandy and West Roxbury Sandy, we're tight
on time. Go ahead, Sandy. Well, I have so many things
I want to say, so I'mnot gonna say too much because I know
you're gonna have enough time. ButI agree with you on almost everything.
And I love that lady. Ithink her name is the Ring. I
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mean, if these kids, theydon't know what it is like to work,
to know, if you want something, you have to pay for it,
and you know, try to geta kid to settle. These days,
they don't do it, you know. And I mean when I was
a kid, if I want,you know, I got basic allowance to
you know, get to school andthings like that. But I mean we
(36:08):
had to work and and that wasnormal. I mean that's a lot of
kids are doing. And of courseI stand totally with Israel and these people
that are supporting him as they haveno idea what they're doing. I mean,
they have no clue. Well,I think some of them do know
what from the River to the Seameans. Others that don't have. What
(36:30):
I mean is they don't know whatHamas will do to them. If I'm
not it would win, if itwon't, I mean, they don't understand
what it would be like. Tolive under hamas of course not of course,
no, they have no education andthat's the problem, and they certainly
aren't getting into colleges these days.Sandy, I got a roll here.
Thank you much. Thanks, Sandy, appreciated. Okay, Tony and I
(36:52):
will go ahead, Tony. Let'ssee how long your last Go ahead,
Tony. Yeah, there, goingback to the when you were mentioning the
two callers before about you know,the Republican Party started in Wisconsin in eighteen
fifty four to abolish slavery. Anyway, for that call or two callers ago,
I can't remember his name, butso that's how the Republican Party started.
(37:15):
And when when Johnson signed the Billof Civil Rights, it was a
Republican Congress, a Republican Senate thatput it through the Civil Rights Bill,
and also Martin Luther King was aRepublican, so he shouldn't be surprised at
all why blacks are jumping to theRepublican Party, especially in Chicago where I'm
from. In fact, I wishw b Z would give you a budget
so you could bring your show onthe road, because you people are in
(37:36):
New England are so clueless of what'sgoing on. In the rest of this
country, it's Trump signs everywhere.There are no Biden signs. In the
South side of Chicago. The blackcommunity is endorsing Trump. They did.
You just see to open your eyes. People, go online, stop with
the fake news, Stop watching mainstreamtelevision, go online, get your information,
make an informed decision. You knowhere what everyone has to say that,
(38:00):
Tony, they're always going to getall points of view one night side.
I hope you realize that. Well, they'll get points of view.
That doesn't mean they're going to getthe prism of the false news from from
BC. You guys don't report everythingproperly, but that's you know, you
guys are a leftis the station anyway. But anyway, long enough, have
a great night, Tony, letme go. So we go from Tony
to Jeff and wal Dame. Jeffgetting tight on time, Go ahead,
(38:21):
Jeff. Okay. Then I justwanted to pose a question for you,
what are these uh self styled intellectualsgoing to get the backstory right? Because
let's face it, it was thiskind of genocideology, hotism and the likes
of it that sparked off Israeli militancyfrom the outset including the land season.
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What are they going to get historyright? And once more, why don't
they get a life? If there'sa humanitarian why don't they lift the finger
for this oppressed Tibetans by the chain, need other the downtrodden people throughout the
world. Why do they they wantto go after the big Satan of the
(39:12):
little Satan. We're the big Satan. Israel is the little Satan. Yeah,
it's that right. It's pathetic andit's shameful. All right. I
agree with you totally. And Jeff, please, I hope you have a
happiness we pass over this week.Okay, thank you very much. Thank
you friend. Let me go nextto Rick and Bill Rick of Rick will
be fast, I'll be fast.I'd like what Jeff just said. And
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well, Sam, I'll piggyback onhim. Very well said first of all,
Robert Kraft as class. Thank youRobert Kraft for making a stand.
Secondly, I'm not going to arguethat it's not like nineteen sixty eight,
but at least the kids were demonstratingfor a good reason. I mean,
no one wanted to go to Vietnam. People on both sides of the political
I will agree that Vietnam was amistake. We're afraid of communism, but
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the spread of communism, but itwas, it was, It was a
mistake. The Kings today no morethan Drick. Here's the deal, real
Rick, I got twenty seconds leftbefore I got to get out of the
way for a network newscaster. Igot to let you go to the callers
in the line. I apologize,but we're done for the night. We
will end as always, All dogs, all cats, all pets go to
heaven. That's my pal Charlie rayIs, who passed fourteen years ago on
(40:22):
February. And February that's where yourpets are who passed. They loved you
and you love them. I dobelieve you'll see them again. Rob.
Great job, Marita, great job. Thanks to all the callers, particularly
thanks to all the listeners. Seetomorrow I'll be on Facebook nights Time with
Dan Ray in just a couple ofminutes. Have a great Wednesday, everybody,
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