June 21, 2024 • 39 mins
We began the program by bringing you four news segments with different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
Janet Forbes joined us to talk about the death of Donald Sutherland.
Divya Sangameshwar - Insurance Expert & Spokesperson at ValuePenguin by LendingTree with "Pools, Grills and Explosives: Americans Plan to Celebrate Summer With Risky Behaviors"
Dr. Chandler Hubbard, the clinical director at Western University of Health Sciences’ Foot and Ankle Center in California says some popular summer shoes can lead to foot problems.
And WBZ NewsRadio's own Drew Moholland reviews the Celtics Rolling Rally.
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Janet Forbes joined us to talk about the death of Donald Sutherland.
Divya Sangameshwar - Insurance Expert & Spokesperson at ValuePenguin by LendingTree with "Pools, Grills and Explosives: Americans Plan to Celebrate Summer With Risky Behaviors"
Dr. Chandler Hubbard, the clinical director at Western University of Health Sciences’ Foot and Ankle Center in California says some popular summer shoes can lead to foot problems.
And WBZ NewsRadio's own Drew Moholland reviews the Celtics Rolling Rally.
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It's nice eyes, Dan Ray.I'm going Mazy Boston's News Radio. Thank
you very much to Cole made itby the skin of my teeth. Here
lots of rain tonight. Good eveningeverybody, and welcome on into Nightside as
we head toward a Saturday morning.My name is Dan Ray, and we
got some great guests lined up,some great topics. There means some great
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guests. In the eight o'clock hour. Rob Brooks is back in the control
room and without any further ado,I want to talk about the passing yesterday
of this prolific actor, Donald Sutherland. I think everybody knows Donald Sutherland,
whether they were boomers who watched himin Mash in the nineteen sixty late sixties,
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early seventies, or Clute or thepresident in the Dystopian Hunger Games that
occurred just a few years ago.Donald Sutherland passing at eighty eight years of
age. And little did I knowthat a very good friend of mine grew
up with Donald South And I wantto welcome to night Side Janet Forbes.
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Jennet, thanks for doing this.I know that when you called me yesterday
and we talked about it, yougrew up in a little town in Nova
Scotia, and Donald was there acouple couple of years, a very very
little town in Nova Scotia. Dan, thank you so much for having me.
It's such a pleasure to share somelittle uh jales about Donald. I
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only knew him as Donnie. Inever heard him referred as Donald when his
family moved to our town. Hewas always Donnie. And in Bridgewater,
Nova Scotia, described that town alittle bit. It's a very small town
on the So shore of Nova Scotia, about sixty five miles from Halifax,
and very so at the time whenwhen Donnie moved there, Donnie and his
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family, I would say the populationwas just barely fourth up, say four
thousand, small town and had aradio station CKBW. And that you looked
out. I think I was askingwhat those letters mean, and you figured
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it out. I figured Canada knowsBridgewater k CKBW. And one of the
stories you told me was that DonaldSutherland, at the age of fifteen,
this would have been in the earlynineteen fifties, desperately wanted to be a
new an overnight newsreader on that radiostation. And what did he do to
to get that job? He desperatelywanted wanted that, so he went to
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the radio station again, very smallradio station, went and had a meeting
with a manager of the station.And you know, he's fifteen in high
school. And the manager asked him, you know, what experience do you
have for this psision you want?And Donnie said, well, I don't
have any experience, but i'd reallylike to, you know, work on
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the radio. He said, well, come back, kid when you have
some experience. That didn't defer Donnie. What he did very readily and systematically.
He would go on his way toschool, he would go to the
parking lot at the radio station andhe would wait till the on air overnight
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staff were leaving to go to theircars, and he would follow them and
he said, I really want towork on the air, and they said
yeah yeah. And that wasn't working. So he made some tapes of him
reading something and he said, well, you know, here are my tapes.
Listen to them. Well, eventually, after several weeks in the parking
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lot waiting, the station manager calledhim back in hired him, and Donnie
worked at the radio station at nightfor three years with the grandsum. He
was paid and he never let usforget that sixty cents an hour. Wow.
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Well, I'll tell you, well, that just shows when you have
ability and you get that opportunity.Now, you actually were in a play
at the high school and you didn'thave a speaking role. But tell me
a nice story. Because he wasactually working, I guess on scenery rail
when he was a couple of yearsahead of me in school, and when
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we had a very small drama departmentlittle high school, and Donnie liked to
do the work, you know,and help. He did the painting and
whatever. And there was a playcalled Why the Chimes Rang? And I
was asked to be the star.It was a non speaking role and all
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I had to do was lie onthe steps of the cathedral whose bells had
stopped ringing for some reason years andyears ago. Two children came along and
found this or starving old lady gaveher some porridge. The times began to
ring. That was the end ofthe play. However, Donnie had painted
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the scenery to represent the walls ofthe cathedral, and it was just paper,
and he tripped over something while Iwas in my major starring role,
and his head came through the wallof the cathedral didn't bother Donnie one bit.
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He just pulled his head back andthat was it. Well, he
was on to bigger stages in hiscareer. And you did share with me
that he was somebody who was apretty nice person growing up. Did he
stay in touch with the old hometownor if you know, he was from
the time his family moved. Theymoved, as a matter of fact,
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from New Brunswick, where Donnie wasborn, which is a neighboring province to
Nova Scotia. And when they movedto Bridgewater, it was from the first
day they arrived they were so involvedin the community and so kind and helpful.
And they happened to attend the samechurch as I did with my family,
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and they were always late, nevermissed church, but they were always
late. But my mother had himin a Sunday school class of teenage boys.
And my mother lived to be onehundred and five, and she loved
all the boys in her class,but I think Donnie was one of her
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favorites. She said, But attimes, you know, he could be
a little you know, a littlemischief. Yeah, but she said,
but I loved him. And afterhe left home, which when he finished
High school every December for many manyyears, A Points said, it would
arrive from my mother, same messageon Lectard, sorry for misbehaving in your
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Sunday school class, missus sports lovesDonnie. Oh wow, those are great
stories, Janet, You you tellgreat stories. You told it well very
really. When we when we hearof a famous athlete, or a famous
actor for that matter, a famouspolitician passing, you always wondered, I
wonder what it was like. Didpeople understand as they were growing up that
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they were they were with someone whowas going to go on and achieve great
things, as Donald Sutherland did.So you gave us a real perspective tonight
that we very rarely get and Ijust want to thank you for taking the
time too. Well, just veryvery very quickly. He in all the
movies, and he was in many, many, many movies. He never
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even was nominated for an Oscar.He got a couple of Emmy's first TV
work, and he got a coupleprit Choice Awards, but they finally gave
him a honorary. If that wouldbe the lifetime achievement Oscar, I think
yes. And typical of Donnie whenhe went to the stage to receive it.
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He listened to the presentation, heldup the oscar and he said,
you know, folks, I reallydon't deserve this. But he said,
I've got arthritis and I don't deservethat either. That was the end of
his speech. Very probably one ofthe better ones. They didn't have to
play him off stage with music.Janet Forbes, thank you so much.
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You're a great storyteller and your ownright. Thank you for joining us,
and I know that you. Thankyou so much for having me. It
was such a pleasure to share information. Really great guy, great family,
well and a great presentation. Jennet, thanks so much. We'll talk soon.
Okay, thank you, Dan,thank you so much. When we
get back, we're going to changetopics. We're going to talk about some
of the danger there's risky behaviors ofsummer activity. My name's Dan Ray.
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This is Nightside. You listen toWBZ ten thirty and the AM dial in
Boston, Massachusetts, Boston's news radio. Now back to Dan ray Line from
the Window World Nightside Studios on WBZNews Radio. All right, we are
back and we're going to talk aboutsome of the hidden dangers of summer.
Obviously, summer is a great time. People will get access to swimming pools.
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Many people go to barbecues and they'reinvolved in grilling, and even on
the Fourth of July, a lotof people decide to participate and play with
fireworks. And we're going to talkabout what Americans should be should be doing
to keep themselves safe over the fourthof July and through the summer. I'm
about to introduce Diva and I'm hopingI'm going to pronounce this name correctly Sun
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Gummeshware. Have I gotten close tothat, Diva? Yeah, you got?
You were like I would say ninetyseven percent. There, I'll take
ninety seven percent. I never geta night twenty percent in school, Thank
you very much. So you're aninsurance expert and a spokesperson at Value Penguin
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by lending Tree. I think Iknow what lending Tree is. What is
Value Penguin. So we are justlike the research arm of lending Tree.
We look at a lot of topicsthat are insurance related and publish research that
we hope will help Americans make gooddecisions about their safety and their insurance.
Excellent. So I think it's alwaysgood at this time of year to go
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back and once again point out someof the hidden dangers or the fairly obvious
dangers. Let's hit some of thehighlights things people should be concerned about.
I've already mentioned swimming pools, grills, and exposives. We can start right
there. Yeah, you know,we did a survey where we asked about
two thousand Americans about their summer plans, and some of what we found was
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pretty shocking. Six percent of poolowners say they've had at least one safety
related incident in their pool. Nineteenpercent of Americans say they don't know how
to swim, you know, almostforty percent say there aren't confident in their
ability to help someone who's struggling inthe water. And despite all of this,
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twelve percent are okay letting children undertwelve years of pool without supervision.
And eighty two percent of pool ownersaren't super concerned about the liability that comes
with hosting a pool party. Sothat's one part of the puzzle. The
other part is people are using girls. You know, they're but they're hurting
themselves with burns or they're giving themselvesfood poisoning. And why because thirty seven
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percent of Americans don't clean their grillsafter every use that will make you think
twice about going to somebody's house forbarbecue. And you know people are adding
booze and drugs to the mix.One in four Americans are in talkicated when
they're grilling, or they're going intothe pool, or even setting off fireworks,
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which hopefully shouldn't be an issue inMassachusetts. But yes, all of
these risk factors can just make yourwonderful summer parties as absolute down er if
someone gets hurt. Oh absolutely,By the way, one trick I do
whenever I grill on my at myon my grill, I always grill the
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Hayburgs hot dogs. I grilled themon top of a bit of aluminum foil
and make like an aluminum foil boatwhich holds the grease. And I don't
know, my grill stays pretty cleannow to be honest, right, because
I, like most people, youhate cleaning and grill and I get it.
Look it is, it is.It is very annoying to have to
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clean it after every use. Butlet me tell you why you should be
doing it, because yes, youhave an aluminum foil, you clean it
up. You know, you grilland the trapolo is clean. But if
you're not, there might be piecesof meat stuff on the grill, or
the grease may have dripped below towhere the fire is. And so if
the girl is not clean, youput yourself at risk of food poisoning.
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But more terrifyingly, you put yourselfat risk of a grease fire, which
is really not something we want whenwe're trying to cook the perfect burger.
No, no, no, no, okay, I'll think about that.
I will take that into consideration.I'm smart enough to listen to good advice
when I hear it. Explosive shouldbe a definite no no. I guess
the problem is you have a cookoutor a barbecue and there's always some character
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who shows up with a couple ofexplosives. And of course, if there
any kids under the age of fifteen, that's pretty cool for them. So
how do you deal with that?I mean, other than just taking the
guy aside and saying, hey,put the explosives back in the car.
This is my house, this ismy yard. Yeah, I mean,
you have to stand firm on thatif someone's bringing explosives into your house,
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or someone under twenty one is bringingalcohol into your house and potentially serving other
miners. You need to put yourfoot down and say no, I can't
allow this in my house. Andhere's the reason why. It's horrible to
be that person. But there aresocial liability laws in Massachusetts. So if
you permit it and something terrible happensas a homeowners other party host, you
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could be liable. And it's notsomething we want to think about in the
middle of a party. But it'sbetter to think about it beforehand and lay
down the law so that negative thingsare terrible things don't happen the other thing.
And again, I know that yourfocus is on home liability and safety
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in your home, but there wasa horrific story on one of the newscasts
tonight. A couple went swimming ona beach in southern Florida. They had
six children between them. I thinkit was a blended marriage. They went
into the water with a couple ofthe children. They were pulled out by
a rip cart and both of themdied. Both of them drys. So
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again that that is not you knowyour Bailey Wick there. But I think
we all need to understand that wehave to be very respectful and careful about
whenever we're doing something that is different, you know, and and I think
that there's a lot of things thatcan happen if you put alcohol together with
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a pool. Someone can fall inand hit their head in a pool,
people don't pay attention, and childwanders, you know, unattended. It's
the pools are wonderful, but thatthere's got to be a lot of liability
considerations. What what do you Whatdo you tell your friends when they come
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to your home. You're more cognizantof these dangers than all of us.
What do you tell your friends?How do you handle it? You just
straightforward with them and say, Ireally don't want you to do that here.
Yeah, so I personally do nothave a house with a pool because
it would be too much of aliability and a headache. However, I
do have friends who have pools,and this is what I tell them.
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Number one, always cover your pooland it's not in use. Number two,
most talents require pools to be surroundedby a fence, so make sure
it is fenced up. And whenyou lock the gates, make sure it
is a childproof lock so that kidscan't fiddle with it and get inside.
And number three, make sure youhave underwater alarms. Installed inside the pool
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so that if any pet or akid or intruder happens to take an unauthorized
swim, you'll know about it andyou can immediately get there and pull them
out if they need help, orask them to scram if they're not supposed
to be there. Yeah, thoseare all great, great pieces of advice,
Davia, thank you very much forjoining us. Is there a website
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do you want to direct any ofour listeners to where they might be able
to review the information some of theinformation we discussed. Absolutely so you can
view our full report at www dotvalue Penguin dot com, Forward slash pool,
dash Growth, dash Fireworks dash Survey, and there's lots of helpful tips
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in there, including what kind ofa checkup you need to do for your
insurance before you host a party,and the last piece of advice, do
not mubble fireworks across the border inthe Massachusetts It's really not a good idea.
In addition to it being dangerous,you can get into a lot of
trouble with your local cops. Ohyeah, and the police do monitor Massachusetts
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plates. In the New Hampshire it'sa place where everybody knows that, so
I'm not telling anything out of schoolhere, but Massachusetts troopers do monitor in
undercover cars what's going on and what'scoming across the border. So you don't
want to have that happen anyway,exactly, Divya. I really appreciate your
time tonight, Thank you so much, and perhaps we be back later on
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at some point this summer and aboutgive a little refresher to people later on
this summer. Thanks so much,Diva. I'll be more than happy to
come on talk about it again.Thank you very much. Dida sung maschwar
with again Lending Tree, but she'sat Value Penguin, which is a research
arm of Lending Tree. We getback, We're going to talk about another
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danger. Unfortunately, there's a lotof danger involved tonight. Some popular summer
shoes can lead to foot problems.We'll explain. Going to talk with doctor
Chandler Hubbard, his clinical director atWestern University Health Services Foot and Ankle Center
in California. Doctor Chandler Hubbard onthe other side of the news break at
the bottom of the hour, It'sNight Side with Foston's News Radio. Thank
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you, thank you very much toCoal. As we move into our second
half of our first hour tonight,it's eight thirty six. Joining us now
is doctor Chandler Hubbard, who's theclinical director at Western UNI University of Health
Sciences Foot and Ankle Center out inCalifornia. Then we're going to talk about
the fact that there is some verypopular summer footwear that can actually cause foot
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problems. Doctor Chandler, Welcome toNight's Side here in Boston. You've got
a large audience listening and they're allears. What are the summer shoes that
can cause problems? Hi, thankyou so much for having me. Yeah,
you know, summer shoes are sometimesthey're not the most supportive things,
flat sandals. You guys really liketo wear your crocs, but my biggest
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thing is to make sure you're notwalking barefoot and you're in some good supportive
sneakers. We got to make surewe protect your feet. Yeah, I
think that makes a lot of sense. So, yeah, crocs are popular,
particularly in pool settings, but youhave to be careful. You have
to be careful with the crocs.And what about you know, New England
is known for boat shoes. Theydon't have a whole lot of support,
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but people I think they're very cool. I don't wear boat shoes for a
whole bunch of reasons. But I'mjust curious what if you put boat shoes
in that category. So, Imean, every shoe needs to be evaluated
on its own. We're really lookingfor something that has a stiff bottom,
a little bit of arch support reallyonly bends at the toe more than anything.
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So I'm never going to tell somebodynot to wear a specific shoe.
Just know that if it doesn't havethe support that it needs, you might
have some foot paint. So Idon't have anything against boat shoes. And
honestly, if you're out on aboat, I don't want you to step
on anything with bare feet. Sosome kind of shoe is better than nothing.
And so you mentioned crocs, andwhat about sandals. Again, a
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lot of people back here wear sandals. I don't think that they're particularly attractive.
I'm not a sandal guy. Ilike to wear my New Balance sneakers.
To be honest with you. Oh, I love that you're wearing the
New Balance. It's one of theshoes that I recommend. I like New
Balance Brooks and Hokahs. But Imean there are certain flip flops. There
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are certain sandals that do have apretty good art support. Like I like
bionics, I like birkenstocks. Idon't think birkenstocks are very attractive looking either,
but it's very popular on the Westcoast here. So I mean,
as long as you're looking for somethingthat has support, and we're protecting your
feet again better than barefoot. Youshould be checking your feet every day,
especially if you're out on a boat, at the beach, at the pool,
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something in the summertime. Everybody likesto be barefoot, so you gotta
be really careful. So what doyou look when you check in your feet?
What do you I mean, Iassume you want to check for ticks,
that's one thing that we've talked about. But what else are you checking
for? So any kind of blister, callous anything that's new A new lesion.
I tell people to check the topbottom sides in between their toes.
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If they can't check themselves, usea mirror or have somebody check for them.
There's a lot of diabetic patients,unfortunately, and a lot of people
that don't even know they're diabetic.And what happens is you start to develop
neuropathy or a loss of sensation inyour toes, in your feet, so
you may not even feel that you'vestuck on something, or you have a
callus, or maybe you have,you know, a splinter in your foot.
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You may not even know it,and it's develops into a wound very
quickly. And of course some ofthese shoes allow you to flip your ankle,
which I have done more often thanprobably most people from playing sports as
a kid in high school and college. How concerned do you have to be
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when you're wearing shoes or not wearingshoes, But even if you're wearing shoes
or something flipping that ankle you see? You know NBA players go down with
a sprained ankle when they're out fora week and they're getting heat and cold
treatments every day, probably two orthree times a day to get them back
in shape. How much of aconcern is an ankle injury? Yeah,
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definitely. I mean, shoes canplay a huge role in that if it's
something that's really unstable. It dependsalso on the person themselves, if they
have a histy of sports injuries orof springing their ankle in general, then
yeah, you definitely need to takeprecautions to prevent that from happening again again.
Because once you sprain your ankle once, those ligaments are never really exactly
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the same, and we don't havethe access to physical therapy and rehabilitation.
Like some of those pro athletes thatsprain their ankle on a week later,
they're you know, back up andgoing, so speaking precautions, Yeah,
that's that's my problem. I've sprainedmy ankle probably I'm guessing fifty times of
bad sprains, and I had acouple of really bad sprains in two thousand
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and nine. I actually get treatmentprolotherapy shots, which helps help me stay
in the gym, but on thesummertime, occasionally I'll put on some sort
of you know, a wrap,the twenty dollars wrap you can buy at
a CPS or Walgreens, just togive that ankle a little bit more support,
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particularly if I know I'm going tobe walking in a beach area,
walking getting to a beach, becausethe sand obviously slides a little bit,
and definitely definitely a lace up anklebrace is a good option. You can
buy them on Amazon, you canbuy them, like you said, at
Walgreens or CDs. I actually,yeah, yeah, I'm actually a fan
of high top sneakers, so likea basketball shoe is actually not a bad
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idea for somebody who has a historyof ankle sprains. Or a pair of
boots, they're just not that comfortableto wear in the summer when it's hot.
Yeah, and I'm not sure atleast the high tops that when we
were kids growing up, they hadthe sneaker called kids kat e ds uh
oh yeah, and there was nosupport. I mean it was a high
top, but there was no support. All it was just you know,
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So, I mean you got toif you're going to get something and spend
a little extra money, make sureyou get something that's going to help you.
And as they say, I knowthat surgery on ankles, which I
have been able to avoid because ofthe work that I've done with a fellow
back here with prolotherapy treatments. Imean, you know, knees are easy
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compared to ankles. I mean,knees they can do scopes and they can
they can go in and mess around. But ankle, you're talking about if
you injure your ankle badly and continueto injure it again, you're talking about
maybe a rod of fusion or areplacement ankle, which is a year of
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rehab. So yeah, yeah,I don't think of it, but boy,
the advice that you're giving people tonightis so important. Yeah. Absolutely,
I do do a lot of surgerieson ankles, and we can do
some reconstructions on ankle ligaments if youhave laxity there. We, like you
said, we can do ankle replacementsand knees and hips and shoulders are a
lot easier to do than the smallankle joint that we are are dealing with.
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But I mean, we can doscopes as well, and we can
do injections, like you said,a quartico stereot injection PRP. There's a
lot of different modalities that we cando to rehab ankles, but prevention is
the biggest thing. It's key.Yeah, I heard my tailis bone and
I don't want to get too muchdetail here, but you'd have to do
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a lot of work on my anklethough. It's though, hasn't this is
I didn't realize you were surging haveThe last time I had a real good
workup of my ankle was at massGeneral Hospital twenty eighteen. I've always hoped
that scopes and ankle surgery there's justthere's no windows into the ankle. You
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have windows into the knees and youcan do a lot in the knees.
Are been making any progress in termsof ankle surgeries or or is it pretty
much where it was circa twenty eighteen. So I'm sitting at a conference right
now at Disneyland, and they havetalked about ankles and scopes, and there's
always new equipment and new techniques thatare you know, coming out. So
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yes, it's always developing. Thetotal ankle replacements that we have have come
a long way and have changed significantlyeven over the last five to ten years.
So definitely something you know, talkto your pediatrist, your orthopedic surgeon
and see if you're a candidate forthat. Yeah, I have a I
have a great friend who does prolotherapy and it's I don't know if you
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are familiar with prolo therapy treatments,but it's it's been been, it's it's
kept me in the gym for tenyears, more than ten years, and
that's what we want. Absolutely,you know, low impact ellipticals and stuff
like that. You got to change, you know, no longer running or
road races or stuff like that.You just you know, keep low impact
low impact on joints. That's that'sfor sure. I talked to a guy
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today who was in the eighty secondairport, a young guy who just got
out, and he was telling methat all the jumps that they've done,
has done has done a number onhis knees, you know, because of
that impact when you're when you're landing, even with a parachute. So it's
don't take anything for granted, folks, doctor Hubbard. I'm envious of you.
If you're you're a disney World orDisneyland. You say, I'm at
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Disneyland for one of our foot Nacalconferences. Yes, well, enjoy,
okay, enjoy, and thank you. I really appreciate you talking with you
tonight. I know a little bitenough to be dangerous, but thank you
very very much for your time tonight. And enjoy the rest of your evening.
It's only it's only quarter six whereyou are, so you get the
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whole night ahead of you. Thanks. Thanks, doctor, Thank you so
much. That's a great night.Okay. Bye. When we come back,
we will talk about the big newsstory in Boston today. I think
everybody knows what I'm talking about.There was a bit of a parade in
downtown Boston. If you caught aminute or so of your nightly newscast here
in Boston, you probably aware ofwhat I'm talking about. We'll be back
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with w bz's Drew maul Holland,who I'm sure was out there amongst the
madding crowd right after this break.Now back to Dan Ray live from the
window World night Side Studios. I'mWBZ News Radio. Well, if any
of you were in Boston today,there was a little bit of a parade
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that started at the TV North Gardenand wound its way through the city,
uh ending up over on Boylston Street, and I suspect in the midst of
this was a good friend in WBZcolleague, Drew Mulholland, and Drew,
welcome to Nightside. I think thiswas your first appearance on Nightside. So
congratulations you've finally made it on Nightside. How are you tonight? How are
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you Dad? It's been been toolong since I've seen you. How are
you? I'm doing great, doinggreat? So were you out there today?
Which duck boat were you on?Knowing you you probably would maybe driving
one of the duck boats. Whatdid where did your work take you.
Where did your work take you today? Drew tell us all about it.
Not a bad assignment. Yes,I was on Tremont Street there. I
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kind of think like the uh,you know, if anybody knows the bean
Town Pub there right in that vicinityand was it was a sea of Celtics
fans. I think I made thepost on social media that I think all
of the Celtics fans are here.It was crowded, but I will say
that I've been to a lot ofthose parades over the years and just by
my you know, you get aquick snapshot from your vicinity where you're at,
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and it just seemed like a prettywell behaved crowd. I don't know
what the final numbers were, butit did seem like it was all good
energy today, which I liked.Yeah, I got the final numbers.
I think it was one of thenewscast tonight and I spun the dial to
see as much of it as Icould. There were only two arrests with
is that. Yeah, it doesn'tsurprise me at all. It was a
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good energy crowd out there. Iwill tell you a lot of kids out
there today too, obviously a lotof them out of school and everything but
I don't know. I guess that'sfor looking for stories. I kind of
always liked that. I remember,you know, going to the old I
even remember some of the old gardendays. I'm thirty seven, so I
have a a little bit of amemory of that, going to games with
my dad and everything. So itwas like those seeing the kids out there
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with the parents, and lots ofkids out there today, of them doing
their first parade, it was that'salways a cool thing for me. No,
absolutely, most of these kids don'tremember the last parade for the Celtics
in two thousand and eight. Thatwas a sixteen year drought. But his
team looks as if it could startthe season tomorrow and it'll be everybody.
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I think everybody's coming back. Idon't think there's anyone who's going to be
tempted by free agency. This isa team that could be together for three
or four years. I don't knowhow you feel about talking about dynasties after
one title, you know around hereit's a tough thing to live up to,
but they certainly do have the makings. One thing that struck me today,
you know, we watched coach JoeMizzoula all the time, and he's
pretty pretty stoic guy on the sidelines, doesn't get too high, get too
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low. It seems like he wasfiery on that duckboat today, screaming let's
go. He jumped off the duckboat at one point and was slapping five
with the crowd going up and down. Just he almost reminded me. I
remember watching him a little bit whenhe played at West Virginia, and it
almost reminded me of back in hisplaying days a little bit. It was
more that kind of Joe Missoula,just having a blast and just fiery,
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you know, than the guy wesee on the sidelines here during the regular
season. Well, they really whenyou think of this season for the Celtics,
they were the best team in theleague wire or wire. I know
that they had a couple of youknow, back to back losses here and
there, but over an eighty gameseason, that's gonna happen. They they
were the best team. They werethe best team in the playoffs. Obviously,
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that Game four, I think downdeep they wanted almost to they didn't
care about winning Game four. Ithink they wanted to win it at home.
And yeah, well there might besomething to that I think I was
hearing a lot of that, andI said, I don't think professionals,
you know, go out there andthey certainly don't try to lose. But
yes, there might be other factorsof you know, maybe just the intensity
not quite up. And of courseyou got Dallas' best shot in Game four.
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But you know, it's funny whenyou talk about best teams, you
know, and where does this teamrank? I asked one long time Celtics
fan, you know, had tobe in his seventies. He said,
he's gone talk you know, everyparade over, you know, these last
few decades, and he remembers celebratingall the old teams in the past.
And I said, what does thisteam rank for you? You've seen so
many of these titles, and hegoes, this is most definitely one of
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the best eighteen championship teams we've had. It was a very diplomatic answer,
and you couldn't get himself to sayit was better than a lot of those
Larry Birds and all this. Itis always tough. It's always tough to
compare, you know, the sixtythree Celtics to the twenty eighteen Celtics or
the eighty six Celtics, whatever,because it's different competition, the games,
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the game has changed. The factof the matter is they're the best team
in the NBA. This is notsome team that had a cake walk to
the playoffs. Everything fell in linefor them, but they had they had
to put people away. They theyI think they're head and shoulders about it.
But team any other team in theNBA, and I don't think you
can say that there's there's no teamin baseball that fits that category. And
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I don't think I don't even thinkthere's a team in football. You might
argue the Chiefs, but this isa dominant team. And you know what
it's like, it's a long season, right, I mean, these guys
to be here in that you know, this was a wire to wire.
You know, they came out ofthe gates fire and they took it all
the way to the championship. That'sa hard thing to do over the course
of a long season, you know, with injuries, and these guys stayed
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relatively healthy. You know, theyhad some stuff along the way, but
I mean you've got to give themcredit. That's and especially once you get
to that point where you're dominating duringthe regular season, and you're then you're
supposed to win, you know,and that carries an extra burden as well.
So I mean, give it upto these guys. They just delivered.
And I also think that they handledsome of the the garbage that's associated
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with these series. You know,Jason Kidd trying to kind of play some
mind games with the Celtics players,says who's the real MVP and all of
that stuff, and they that playthat team stayed together as a team amazing.
Well, it didn't get a senseeven with the Celtics from the last
few years. You go back afew years to Kyrie. Obviously he didn't
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work in Boston. Marcus Smart,great player, good player, but I
mean he there was there was somethingmissing there. And Drew Holliday, as
far as I'm concerned, was theMVP of the final series. I mean
obviously, sorry, go ahead,no no, I was just saying I
know that every a lot of peoplewon't disagree with me, but I just
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loved that guy. And how theCeltics were able to get him, Man,
they must have pulled off a realthat was a swindle to have him,
because he was what he was theguy this team needed to bring it
all together in my opinion, You'resir right, it's such a team thing.
I mean, obviously you see alot of Tatum and Brown jerseys out
there today too. I mean,especially all the kids. They all have
Jason Tatum jerseys. It's he seemsto be the one as I looked around,
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but but like there were a lotof other jerseys being represented. And
when those dockboats came by with alot of that, you know, call
him supporting cast if you will,very good supporting cast. Uh, those
the fans just went crazy. Ithink I remember looking at Derek White once
with that you know, new toothin there and everything, and the smile
that he had. I could almostsee it in his eyes. He was
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just like, this is unbelievable here. You know, these guys who have
never done a Boston parade. Ithink they were just a little bit taken
aback today, which is a commonreaction if you talk to anybody who does
their first parade in Boston. Uh, they're told about it, but you
really have to experience it. Youknow, did did White actually lose a
tooth in the finals? Said,I don't know, it was messed up?
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Did he must have had some dentalwork. I'm not exactly sure what
happened. I thought he said hegot a new tooth. I don't know
if he's kidding about it, butyeah, I didn't hear almost flying around
in that game, you know.And hey, it's basketball, right,
Yeah, well it's it's a verydifferent It's a much more physical game than
it was twenty years ago, wellforty years ago. And that's why I
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say, you kind of compared theteams. Truth. Thanks so much.
You know it was a long dayfor you, but it's one that you'll
remember for a long time. Andthanks very much. There was one guy
Dan, one guy not wearing green. He was in red today. Asked
him where he's from he's going toHe's from South Carolina. He's a hoodie
and the Blowfish fan. He's goingto the concert tonight, and he said,
I figured i'd better take in aparade when I'm here. I've never
done a championship parade in South Carolina. He goes, this was the best
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day ever. Wow. They mightget an NCAA championship in some sport,
but I don't think they're even goingto get a parade for that, that's
for sure. He's a lucky guy. He's a lucky guy. Drew.
Thanks so much. Great to hearyour voice. And we'll talk soon.
Okay, thank you, Jed,see you all right when we get back.
We got let me give you thelineup tonight. Okay, we'll go
to talk a little bit after nineo'clock. With this development down in Louisiana,
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they are now going to try well, they're going to post the Ten
Commandments in all public schools, kindergarten, elementary school, junior high, high
school, and even public universities inLouisiana. First day in the country to
do that. I think it's interesting, and we're going to talk about that.
We're also going to talk with ProfessorMary and Glendon of Harvard Law School,
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Harvard University Law School. She hasworked inside and outside the courts of
three popes, in the courts ofthree popes, an American lawyer and diplomat
in the last absolute monarchy of theWest, the papacies of John Paul second
and his successors, including Pope Francis, and she is going to have I
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think some very interesting things to sayabout that. And then in the twentieth
hour tonight, I will tell youin advance what I want to do.
Normally we do a light topic.We're going to be a little light.
But the question that I'm going toask tonight, should Robert F. Kennedy
Junior be allowed to participate in nextweek's first presidential debate under CNN's criteria.
RFK failed to qualify for the debate. My question is, who's CNN to
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set up some criteria. It's nottheir presidential election, the people's presidential election.
And clearly Robert F. Kennedy Juniorhas exceeded expectations. He may not,
and will explain that that'll be oureleven o'clock call whether or not he
should be a participant on the stagenext Thursday night. My name is Dan
Ray. This is Nightside, itis Friday night. It is the first
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full day of summer. It's cooledoff a little bit. Thankfully. Please
stay with us and let know,let your points of view be known.
We're going to talk about the TenCommandments going back into some public school classrooms
in America in Louisiana. Let's havesome fun with this one, because I
think I can argue this one bothways. Coming back on Nightside,
It's nice eyes, Dan Ray.I'm going Mazy Boston's News Radio. Thank
you very much to Cole made itby the skin of my teeth. Here
lots of rain tonight. Good eveningeverybody, and welcome on into Nightside as
we head toward a Saturday morning.My name is Dan Ray, and we
got some great guests lined up,some great topics. There means some great
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guests. In the eight o'clock hour. Rob Brooks is back in the control
room and without any further ado,I want to talk about the passing yesterday
of this prolific actor, Donald Sutherland. I think everybody knows Donald Sutherland,
whether they were boomers who watched himin Mash in the nineteen sixty late sixties,
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early seventies, or Clute or thepresident in the Dystopian Hunger Games that
occurred just a few years ago.Donald Sutherland passing at eighty eight years of
age. And little did I knowthat a very good friend of mine grew
up with Donald South And I wantto welcome to night Side Janet Forbes.
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Jennet, thanks for doing this.I know that when you called me yesterday
and we talked about it, yougrew up in a little town in Nova
Scotia, and Donald was there acouple couple of years, a very very
little town in Nova Scotia. Dan, thank you so much for having me.
It's such a pleasure to share somelittle uh jales about Donald. I
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only knew him as Donnie. Inever heard him referred as Donald when his
family moved to our town. Hewas always Donnie. And in Bridgewater,
Nova Scotia, described that town alittle bit. It's a very small town
on the So shore of Nova Scotia, about sixty five miles from Halifax,
and very so at the time whenwhen Donnie moved there, Donnie and his
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family, I would say the populationwas just barely fourth up, say four
thousand, small town and had aradio station CKBW. And that you looked
out. I think I was askingwhat those letters mean, and you figured
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it out. I figured Canada knowsBridgewater k CKBW. And one of the
stories you told me was that DonaldSutherland, at the age of fifteen,
this would have been in the earlynineteen fifties, desperately wanted to be a
new an overnight newsreader on that radiostation. And what did he do to
to get that job? He desperatelywanted wanted that, so he went to
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the radio station again, very smallradio station, went and had a meeting
with a manager of the station.And you know, he's fifteen in high
school. And the manager asked him, you know, what experience do you
have for this psision you want?And Donnie said, well, I don't
have any experience, but i'd reallylike to, you know, work on
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the radio. He said, well, come back, kid when you have
some experience. That didn't defer Donnie. What he did very readily and systematically.
He would go on his way toschool, he would go to the
parking lot at the radio station andhe would wait till the on air overnight
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staff were leaving to go to theircars, and he would follow them and
he said, I really want towork on the air, and they said
yeah yeah. And that wasn't working. So he made some tapes of him
reading something and he said, well, you know, here are my tapes.
Listen to them. Well, eventually, after several weeks in the parking
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lot waiting, the station manager calledhim back in hired him, and Donnie
worked at the radio station at nightfor three years with the grandsum. He
was paid and he never let usforget that sixty cents an hour. Wow.
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Well, I'll tell you, well, that just shows when you have
ability and you get that opportunity.Now, you actually were in a play
at the high school and you didn'thave a speaking role. But tell me
a nice story. Because he wasactually working, I guess on scenery rail
when he was a couple of yearsahead of me in school, and when
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we had a very small drama departmentlittle high school, and Donnie liked to
do the work, you know,and help. He did the painting and
whatever. And there was a playcalled Why the Chimes Rang? And I
was asked to be the star.It was a non speaking role and all
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I had to do was lie onthe steps of the cathedral whose bells had
stopped ringing for some reason years andyears ago. Two children came along and
found this or starving old lady gaveher some porridge. The times began to
ring. That was the end ofthe play. However, Donnie had painted
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the scenery to represent the walls ofthe cathedral, and it was just paper,
and he tripped over something while Iwas in my major starring role,
and his head came through the wallof the cathedral didn't bother Donnie one bit.
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He just pulled his head back andthat was it. Well, he
was on to bigger stages in hiscareer. And you did share with me
that he was somebody who was apretty nice person growing up. Did he
stay in touch with the old hometownor if you know, he was from
the time his family moved. Theymoved, as a matter of fact,
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from New Brunswick, where Donnie wasborn, which is a neighboring province to
Nova Scotia. And when they movedto Bridgewater, it was from the first
day they arrived they were so involvedin the community and so kind and helpful.
And they happened to attend the samechurch as I did with my family,
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and they were always late, nevermissed church, but they were always
late. But my mother had himin a Sunday school class of teenage boys.
And my mother lived to be onehundred and five, and she loved
all the boys in her class,but I think Donnie was one of her
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favorites. She said, But attimes, you know, he could be
a little you know, a littlemischief. Yeah, but she said,
but I loved him. And afterhe left home, which when he finished
High school every December for many manyyears, A Points said, it would
arrive from my mother, same messageon Lectard, sorry for misbehaving in your
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Sunday school class, missus sports lovesDonnie. Oh wow, those are great
stories, Janet, You you tellgreat stories. You told it well very
really. When we when we hearof a famous athlete, or a famous
actor for that matter, a famouspolitician passing, you always wondered, I
wonder what it was like. Didpeople understand as they were growing up that
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they were they were with someone whowas going to go on and achieve great
things, as Donald Sutherland did.So you gave us a real perspective tonight
that we very rarely get and Ijust want to thank you for taking the
time too. Well, just veryvery very quickly. He in all the
movies, and he was in many, many, many movies. He never
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even was nominated for an Oscar.He got a couple of Emmy's first TV
work, and he got a coupleprit Choice Awards, but they finally gave
him a honorary. If that wouldbe the lifetime achievement Oscar, I think
yes. And typical of Donnie whenhe went to the stage to receive it.
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He listened to the presentation, heldup the oscar and he said,
you know, folks, I reallydon't deserve this. But he said,
I've got arthritis and I don't deservethat either. That was the end of
his speech. Very probably one ofthe better ones. They didn't have to
play him off stage with music.Janet Forbes, thank you so much.
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You're a great storyteller and your ownright. Thank you for joining us,
and I know that you. Thankyou so much for having me. It
was such a pleasure to share information. Really great guy, great family,
well and a great presentation. Jennet, thanks so much. We'll talk soon.
Okay, thank you, Dan,thank you so much. When we
get back, we're going to changetopics. We're going to talk about some
of the danger there's risky behaviors ofsummer activity. My name's Dan Ray.
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This is Nightside. You listen toWBZ ten thirty and the AM dial in
Boston, Massachusetts, Boston's news radio. Now back to Dan ray Line from
the Window World Nightside Studios on WBZNews Radio. All right, we are
back and we're going to talk aboutsome of the hidden dangers of summer.
Obviously, summer is a great time. People will get access to swimming pools.
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Many people go to barbecues and they'reinvolved in grilling, and even on
the Fourth of July, a lotof people decide to participate and play with
fireworks. And we're going to talkabout what Americans should be should be doing
to keep themselves safe over the fourthof July and through the summer. I'm
about to introduce Diva and I'm hopingI'm going to pronounce this name correctly Sun
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Gummeshware. Have I gotten close tothat, Diva? Yeah, you got?
You were like I would say ninetyseven percent. There, I'll take
ninety seven percent. I never geta night twenty percent in school, Thank
you very much. So you're aninsurance expert and a spokesperson at Value Penguin
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by lending Tree. I think Iknow what lending Tree is. What is
Value Penguin. So we are justlike the research arm of lending Tree.
We look at a lot of topicsthat are insurance related and publish research that
we hope will help Americans make gooddecisions about their safety and their insurance.
Excellent. So I think it's alwaysgood at this time of year to go
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back and once again point out someof the hidden dangers or the fairly obvious
dangers. Let's hit some of thehighlights things people should be concerned about.
I've already mentioned swimming pools, grills, and exposives. We can start right
there. Yeah, you know,we did a survey where we asked about
two thousand Americans about their summer plans, and some of what we found was
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pretty shocking. Six percent of poolowners say they've had at least one safety
related incident in their pool. Nineteenpercent of Americans say they don't know how
to swim, you know, almostforty percent say there aren't confident in their
ability to help someone who's struggling inthe water. And despite all of this,
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twelve percent are okay letting children undertwelve years of pool without supervision.
And eighty two percent of pool ownersaren't super concerned about the liability that comes
with hosting a pool party. Sothat's one part of the puzzle. The
other part is people are using girls. You know, they're but they're hurting
themselves with burns or they're giving themselvesfood poisoning. And why because thirty seven
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percent of Americans don't clean their grillsafter every use that will make you think
twice about going to somebody's house forbarbecue. And you know people are adding
booze and drugs to the mix.One in four Americans are in talkicated when
they're grilling, or they're going intothe pool, or even setting off fireworks,
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which hopefully shouldn't be an issue inMassachusetts. But yes, all of
these risk factors can just make yourwonderful summer parties as absolute down er if
someone gets hurt. Oh absolutely,By the way, one trick I do
whenever I grill on my at myon my grill, I always grill the
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Hayburgs hot dogs. I grilled themon top of a bit of aluminum foil
and make like an aluminum foil boatwhich holds the grease. And I don't
know, my grill stays pretty cleannow to be honest, right, because
I, like most people, youhate cleaning and grill and I get it.
Look it is, it is.It is very annoying to have to
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clean it after every use. Butlet me tell you why you should be
doing it, because yes, youhave an aluminum foil, you clean it
up. You know, you grilland the trapolo is clean. But if
you're not, there might be piecesof meat stuff on the grill, or
the grease may have dripped below towhere the fire is. And so if
the girl is not clean, youput yourself at risk of food poisoning.
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But more terrifyingly, you put yourselfat risk of a grease fire, which
is really not something we want whenwe're trying to cook the perfect burger.
No, no, no, no, okay, I'll think about that.
I will take that into consideration.I'm smart enough to listen to good advice
when I hear it. Explosive shouldbe a definite no no. I guess
the problem is you have a cookoutor a barbecue and there's always some character
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who shows up with a couple ofexplosives. And of course, if there
any kids under the age of fifteen, that's pretty cool for them. So
how do you deal with that?I mean, other than just taking the
guy aside and saying, hey,put the explosives back in the car.
This is my house, this ismy yard. Yeah, I mean,
you have to stand firm on thatif someone's bringing explosives into your house,
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or someone under twenty one is bringingalcohol into your house and potentially serving other
miners. You need to put yourfoot down and say no, I can't
allow this in my house. Andhere's the reason why. It's horrible to
be that person. But there aresocial liability laws in Massachusetts. So if
you permit it and something terrible happensas a homeowners other party host, you
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could be liable. And it's notsomething we want to think about in the
middle of a party. But it'sbetter to think about it beforehand and lay
down the law so that negative thingsare terrible things don't happen the other thing.
And again, I know that yourfocus is on home liability and safety
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in your home, but there wasa horrific story on one of the newscasts
tonight. A couple went swimming ona beach in southern Florida. They had
six children between them. I thinkit was a blended marriage. They went
into the water with a couple ofthe children. They were pulled out by
a rip cart and both of themdied. Both of them drys. So
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again that that is not you knowyour Bailey Wick there. But I think
we all need to understand that wehave to be very respectful and careful about
whenever we're doing something that is different, you know, and and I think
that there's a lot of things thatcan happen if you put alcohol together with
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a pool. Someone can fall inand hit their head in a pool,
people don't pay attention, and childwanders, you know, unattended. It's
the pools are wonderful, but thatthere's got to be a lot of liability
considerations. What what do you Whatdo you tell your friends when they come
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to your home. You're more cognizantof these dangers than all of us.
What do you tell your friends?How do you handle it? You just
straightforward with them and say, Ireally don't want you to do that here.
Yeah, so I personally do nothave a house with a pool because
it would be too much of aliability and a headache. However, I
do have friends who have pools,and this is what I tell them.
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Number one, always cover your pooland it's not in use. Number two,
most talents require pools to be surroundedby a fence, so make sure
it is fenced up. And whenyou lock the gates, make sure it
is a childproof lock so that kidscan't fiddle with it and get inside.
And number three, make sure youhave underwater alarms. Installed inside the pool
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so that if any pet or akid or intruder happens to take an unauthorized
swim, you'll know about it andyou can immediately get there and pull them
out if they need help, orask them to scram if they're not supposed
to be there. Yeah, thoseare all great, great pieces of advice,
Davia, thank you very much forjoining us. Is there a website
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do you want to direct any ofour listeners to where they might be able
to review the information some of theinformation we discussed. Absolutely so you can
view our full report at www dotvalue Penguin dot com, Forward slash pool,
dash Growth, dash Fireworks dash Survey, and there's lots of helpful tips
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in there, including what kind ofa checkup you need to do for your
insurance before you host a party,and the last piece of advice, do
not mubble fireworks across the border inthe Massachusetts It's really not a good idea.
In addition to it being dangerous,you can get into a lot of
trouble with your local cops. Ohyeah, and the police do monitor Massachusetts
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plates. In the New Hampshire it'sa place where everybody knows that, so
I'm not telling anything out of schoolhere, but Massachusetts troopers do monitor in
undercover cars what's going on and what'scoming across the border. So you don't
want to have that happen anyway,exactly, Divya. I really appreciate your
time tonight, Thank you so much, and perhaps we be back later on
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at some point this summer and aboutgive a little refresher to people later on
this summer. Thanks so much,Diva. I'll be more than happy to
come on talk about it again.Thank you very much. Dida sung maschwar
with again Lending Tree, but she'sat Value Penguin, which is a research
arm of Lending Tree. We getback, We're going to talk about another
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danger. Unfortunately, there's a lotof danger involved tonight. Some popular summer
shoes can lead to foot problems.We'll explain. Going to talk with doctor
Chandler Hubbard, his clinical director atWestern University Health Services Foot and Ankle Center
in California. Doctor Chandler Hubbard onthe other side of the news break at
the bottom of the hour, It'sNight Side with Foston's News Radio. Thank
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you, thank you very much toCoal. As we move into our second
half of our first hour tonight,it's eight thirty six. Joining us now
is doctor Chandler Hubbard, who's theclinical director at Western UNI University of Health
Sciences Foot and Ankle Center out inCalifornia. Then we're going to talk about
the fact that there is some verypopular summer footwear that can actually cause foot
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problems. Doctor Chandler, Welcome toNight's Side here in Boston. You've got
a large audience listening and they're allears. What are the summer shoes that
can cause problems? Hi, thankyou so much for having me. Yeah,
you know, summer shoes are sometimesthey're not the most supportive things,
flat sandals. You guys really liketo wear your crocs, but my biggest
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thing is to make sure you're notwalking barefoot and you're in some good supportive
sneakers. We got to make surewe protect your feet. Yeah, I
think that makes a lot of sense. So, yeah, crocs are popular,
particularly in pool settings, but youhave to be careful. You have
to be careful with the crocs.And what about you know, New England
is known for boat shoes. Theydon't have a whole lot of support,
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but people I think they're very cool. I don't wear boat shoes for a
whole bunch of reasons. But I'mjust curious what if you put boat shoes
in that category. So, Imean, every shoe needs to be evaluated
on its own. We're really lookingfor something that has a stiff bottom,
a little bit of arch support reallyonly bends at the toe more than anything.
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So I'm never going to tell somebodynot to wear a specific shoe.
Just know that if it doesn't havethe support that it needs, you might
have some foot paint. So Idon't have anything against boat shoes. And
honestly, if you're out on aboat, I don't want you to step
on anything with bare feet. Sosome kind of shoe is better than nothing.
And so you mentioned crocs, andwhat about sandals. Again, a
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lot of people back here wear sandals. I don't think that they're particularly attractive.
I'm not a sandal guy. Ilike to wear my New Balance sneakers.
To be honest with you. Oh, I love that you're wearing the
New Balance. It's one of theshoes that I recommend. I like New
Balance Brooks and Hokahs. But Imean there are certain flip flops. There
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are certain sandals that do have apretty good art support. Like I like
bionics, I like birkenstocks. Idon't think birkenstocks are very attractive looking either,
but it's very popular on the Westcoast here. So I mean,
as long as you're looking for somethingthat has support, and we're protecting your
feet again better than barefoot. Youshould be checking your feet every day,
especially if you're out on a boat, at the beach, at the pool,
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something in the summertime. Everybody likesto be barefoot, so you gotta
be really careful. So what doyou look when you check in your feet?
What do you I mean, Iassume you want to check for ticks,
that's one thing that we've talked about. But what else are you checking
for? So any kind of blister, callous anything that's new A new lesion.
I tell people to check the topbottom sides in between their toes.
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If they can't check themselves, usea mirror or have somebody check for them.
There's a lot of diabetic patients,unfortunately, and a lot of people
that don't even know they're diabetic.And what happens is you start to develop
neuropathy or a loss of sensation inyour toes, in your feet, so
you may not even feel that you'vestuck on something, or you have a
callus, or maybe you have,you know, a splinter in your foot.
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You may not even know it,and it's develops into a wound very
quickly. And of course some ofthese shoes allow you to flip your ankle,
which I have done more often thanprobably most people from playing sports as
a kid in high school and college. How concerned do you have to be
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when you're wearing shoes or not wearingshoes, But even if you're wearing shoes
or something flipping that ankle you see? You know NBA players go down with
a sprained ankle when they're out fora week and they're getting heat and cold
treatments every day, probably two orthree times a day to get them back
in shape. How much of aconcern is an ankle injury? Yeah,
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definitely. I mean, shoes canplay a huge role in that if it's
something that's really unstable. It dependsalso on the person themselves, if they
have a histy of sports injuries orof springing their ankle in general, then
yeah, you definitely need to takeprecautions to prevent that from happening again again.
Because once you sprain your ankle once, those ligaments are never really exactly
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the same, and we don't havethe access to physical therapy and rehabilitation.
Like some of those pro athletes thatsprain their ankle on a week later,
they're you know, back up andgoing, so speaking precautions, Yeah,
that's that's my problem. I've sprainedmy ankle probably I'm guessing fifty times of
bad sprains, and I had acouple of really bad sprains in two thousand
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and nine. I actually get treatmentprolotherapy shots, which helps help me stay
in the gym, but on thesummertime, occasionally I'll put on some sort
of you know, a wrap,the twenty dollars wrap you can buy at
a CPS or Walgreens, just togive that ankle a little bit more support,
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particularly if I know I'm going tobe walking in a beach area,
walking getting to a beach, becausethe sand obviously slides a little bit,
and definitely definitely a lace up anklebrace is a good option. You can
buy them on Amazon, you canbuy them, like you said, at
Walgreens or CDs. I actually,yeah, yeah, I'm actually a fan
of high top sneakers, so likea basketball shoe is actually not a bad
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idea for somebody who has a historyof ankle sprains. Or a pair of
boots, they're just not that comfortableto wear in the summer when it's hot.
Yeah, and I'm not sure atleast the high tops that when we
were kids growing up, they hadthe sneaker called kids kat e ds uh
oh yeah, and there was nosupport. I mean it was a high
top, but there was no support. All it was just you know,
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So, I mean you got toif you're going to get something and spend
a little extra money, make sureyou get something that's going to help you.
And as they say, I knowthat surgery on ankles, which I
have been able to avoid because ofthe work that I've done with a fellow
back here with prolotherapy treatments. Imean, you know, knees are easy
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compared to ankles. I mean,knees they can do scopes and they can
they can go in and mess around. But ankle, you're talking about if
you injure your ankle badly and continueto injure it again, you're talking about
maybe a rod of fusion or areplacement ankle, which is a year of
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rehab. So yeah, yeah,I don't think of it, but boy,
the advice that you're giving people tonightis so important. Yeah. Absolutely,
I do do a lot of surgerieson ankles, and we can do
some reconstructions on ankle ligaments if youhave laxity there. We, like you
said, we can do ankle replacementsand knees and hips and shoulders are a
lot easier to do than the smallankle joint that we are are dealing with.
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But I mean, we can doscopes as well, and we can
do injections, like you said,a quartico stereot injection PRP. There's a
lot of different modalities that we cando to rehab ankles, but prevention is
the biggest thing. It's key.Yeah, I heard my tailis bone and
I don't want to get too muchdetail here, but you'd have to do
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a lot of work on my anklethough. It's though, hasn't this is
I didn't realize you were surging haveThe last time I had a real good
workup of my ankle was at massGeneral Hospital twenty eighteen. I've always hoped
that scopes and ankle surgery there's justthere's no windows into the ankle. You
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have windows into the knees and youcan do a lot in the knees.
Are been making any progress in termsof ankle surgeries or or is it pretty
much where it was circa twenty eighteen. So I'm sitting at a conference right
now at Disneyland, and they havetalked about ankles and scopes, and there's
always new equipment and new techniques thatare you know, coming out. So
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yes, it's always developing. Thetotal ankle replacements that we have have come
a long way and have changed significantlyeven over the last five to ten years.
So definitely something you know, talkto your pediatrist, your orthopedic surgeon
and see if you're a candidate forthat. Yeah, I have a I
have a great friend who does prolotherapy and it's I don't know if you
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are familiar with prolo therapy treatments,but it's it's been been, it's it's
kept me in the gym for tenyears, more than ten years, and
that's what we want. Absolutely,you know, low impact ellipticals and stuff
like that. You got to change, you know, no longer running or
road races or stuff like that.You just you know, keep low impact
low impact on joints. That's that'sfor sure. I talked to a guy
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today who was in the eighty secondairport, a young guy who just got
out, and he was telling methat all the jumps that they've done,
has done has done a number onhis knees, you know, because of
that impact when you're when you're landing, even with a parachute. So it's
don't take anything for granted, folks, doctor Hubbard. I'm envious of you.
If you're you're a disney World orDisneyland. You say, I'm at
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Disneyland for one of our foot Nacalconferences. Yes, well, enjoy,
okay, enjoy, and thank you. I really appreciate you talking with you
tonight. I know a little bitenough to be dangerous, but thank you
very very much for your time tonight. And enjoy the rest of your evening.
It's only it's only quarter six whereyou are, so you get the
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whole night ahead of you. Thanks. Thanks, doctor, Thank you so
much. That's a great night.Okay. Bye. When we come back,
we will talk about the big newsstory in Boston today. I think
everybody knows what I'm talking about.There was a bit of a parade in
downtown Boston. If you caught aminute or so of your nightly newscast here
in Boston, you probably aware ofwhat I'm talking about. We'll be back
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with w bz's Drew maul Holland,who I'm sure was out there amongst the
madding crowd right after this break.Now back to Dan Ray live from the
window World night Side Studios. I'mWBZ News Radio. Well, if any
of you were in Boston today,there was a little bit of a parade
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that started at the TV North Gardenand wound its way through the city,
uh ending up over on Boylston Street, and I suspect in the midst of
this was a good friend in WBZcolleague, Drew Mulholland, and Drew,
welcome to Nightside. I think thiswas your first appearance on Nightside. So
congratulations you've finally made it on Nightside. How are you tonight? How are
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you Dad? It's been been toolong since I've seen you. How are
you? I'm doing great, doinggreat? So were you out there today?
Which duck boat were you on?Knowing you you probably would maybe driving
one of the duck boats. Whatdid where did your work take you.
Where did your work take you today? Drew tell us all about it.
Not a bad assignment. Yes,I was on Tremont Street there. I
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kind of think like the uh,you know, if anybody knows the bean
Town Pub there right in that vicinityand was it was a sea of Celtics
fans. I think I made thepost on social media that I think all
of the Celtics fans are here.It was crowded, but I will say
that I've been to a lot ofthose parades over the years and just by
my you know, you get aquick snapshot from your vicinity where you're at,
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and it just seemed like a prettywell behaved crowd. I don't know
what the final numbers were, butit did seem like it was all good
energy today, which I liked.Yeah, I got the final numbers.
I think it was one of thenewscast tonight and I spun the dial to
see as much of it as Icould. There were only two arrests with
is that. Yeah, it doesn'tsurprise me at all. It was a
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good energy crowd out there. Iwill tell you a lot of kids out
there today too, obviously a lotof them out of school and everything but
I don't know. I guess that'sfor looking for stories. I kind of
always liked that. I remember,you know, going to the old I
even remember some of the old gardendays. I'm thirty seven, so I
have a a little bit of amemory of that, going to games with
my dad and everything. So itwas like those seeing the kids out there
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with the parents, and lots ofkids out there today, of them doing
their first parade, it was that'salways a cool thing for me. No,
absolutely, most of these kids don'tremember the last parade for the Celtics
in two thousand and eight. Thatwas a sixteen year drought. But his
team looks as if it could startthe season tomorrow and it'll be everybody.
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I think everybody's coming back. Idon't think there's anyone who's going to be
tempted by free agency. This isa team that could be together for three
or four years. I don't knowhow you feel about talking about dynasties after
one title, you know around hereit's a tough thing to live up to,
but they certainly do have the makings. One thing that struck me today,
you know, we watched coach JoeMizzoula all the time, and he's
pretty pretty stoic guy on the sidelines, doesn't get too high, get too
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low. It seems like he wasfiery on that duckboat today, screaming let's
go. He jumped off the duckboat at one point and was slapping five
with the crowd going up and down. Just he almost reminded me. I
remember watching him a little bit whenhe played at West Virginia, and it
almost reminded me of back in hisplaying days a little bit. It was
more that kind of Joe Missoula,just having a blast and just fiery,
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you know, than the guy wesee on the sidelines here during the regular
season. Well, they really whenyou think of this season for the Celtics,
they were the best team in theleague wire or wire. I know
that they had a couple of youknow, back to back losses here and
there, but over an eighty gameseason, that's gonna happen. They they
were the best team. They werethe best team in the playoffs. Obviously,
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that Game four, I think downdeep they wanted almost to they didn't
care about winning Game four. Ithink they wanted to win it at home.
And yeah, well there might besomething to that I think I was
hearing a lot of that, andI said, I don't think professionals,
you know, go out there andthey certainly don't try to lose. But
yes, there might be other factorsof you know, maybe just the intensity
not quite up. And of courseyou got Dallas' best shot in Game four.
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But you know, it's funny whenyou talk about best teams, you
know, and where does this teamrank? I asked one long time Celtics
fan, you know, had tobe in his seventies. He said,
he's gone talk you know, everyparade over, you know, these last
few decades, and he remembers celebratingall the old teams in the past.
And I said, what does thisteam rank for you? You've seen so
many of these titles, and hegoes, this is most definitely one of
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the best eighteen championship teams we've had. It was a very diplomatic answer,
and you couldn't get himself to sayit was better than a lot of those
Larry Birds and all this. Itis always tough. It's always tough to
compare, you know, the sixtythree Celtics to the twenty eighteen Celtics or
the eighty six Celtics, whatever,because it's different competition, the games,
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the game has changed. The factof the matter is they're the best team
in the NBA. This is notsome team that had a cake walk to
the playoffs. Everything fell in linefor them, but they had they had
to put people away. They theyI think they're head and shoulders about it.
But team any other team in theNBA, and I don't think you
can say that there's there's no teamin baseball that fits that category. And
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I don't think I don't even thinkthere's a team in football. You might
argue the Chiefs, but this isa dominant team. And you know what
it's like, it's a long season, right, I mean, these guys
to be here in that you know, this was a wire to wire.
You know, they came out ofthe gates fire and they took it all
the way to the championship. That'sa hard thing to do over the course
of a long season, you know, with injuries, and these guys stayed
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relatively healthy. You know, theyhad some stuff along the way, but
I mean you've got to give themcredit. That's and especially once you get
to that point where you're dominating duringthe regular season, and you're then you're
supposed to win, you know,and that carries an extra burden as well.
So I mean, give it upto these guys. They just delivered.
And I also think that they handledsome of the the garbage that's associated
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with these series. You know,Jason Kidd trying to kind of play some
mind games with the Celtics players,says who's the real MVP and all of
that stuff, and they that playthat team stayed together as a team amazing.
Well, it didn't get a senseeven with the Celtics from the last
few years. You go back afew years to Kyrie. Obviously he didn't
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work in Boston. Marcus Smart,great player, good player, but I
mean he there was there was somethingmissing there. And Drew Holliday, as
far as I'm concerned, was theMVP of the final series. I mean
obviously, sorry, go ahead,no no, I was just saying I
know that every a lot of peoplewon't disagree with me, but I just
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loved that guy. And how theCeltics were able to get him, Man,
they must have pulled off a realthat was a swindle to have him,
because he was what he was theguy this team needed to bring it
all together in my opinion, You'resir right, it's such a team thing.
I mean, obviously you see alot of Tatum and Brown jerseys out
there today too. I mean,especially all the kids. They all have
Jason Tatum jerseys. It's he seemsto be the one as I looked around,
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but but like there were a lotof other jerseys being represented. And
when those dockboats came by with alot of that, you know, call
him supporting cast if you will,very good supporting cast. Uh, those
the fans just went crazy. Ithink I remember looking at Derek White once
with that you know, new toothin there and everything, and the smile
that he had. I could almostsee it in his eyes. He was
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just like, this is unbelievable here. You know, these guys who have
never done a Boston parade. Ithink they were just a little bit taken
aback today, which is a commonreaction if you talk to anybody who does
their first parade in Boston. Uh, they're told about it, but you
really have to experience it. Youknow, did did White actually lose a
tooth in the finals? Said,I don't know, it was messed up?
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Did he must have had some dentalwork. I'm not exactly sure what
happened. I thought he said hegot a new tooth. I don't know
if he's kidding about it, butyeah, I didn't hear almost flying around
in that game, you know.And hey, it's basketball, right,
Yeah, well it's it's a verydifferent It's a much more physical game than
it was twenty years ago, wellforty years ago. And that's why I
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say, you kind of compared theteams. Truth. Thanks so much.
You know it was a long dayfor you, but it's one that you'll
remember for a long time. Andthanks very much. There was one guy
Dan, one guy not wearing green. He was in red today. Asked
him where he's from he's going toHe's from South Carolina. He's a hoodie
and the Blowfish fan. He's goingto the concert tonight, and he said,
I figured i'd better take in aparade when I'm here. I've never
done a championship parade in South Carolina. He goes, this was the best
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day ever. Wow. They mightget an NCAA championship in some sport,
but I don't think they're even goingto get a parade for that, that's
for sure. He's a lucky guy. He's a lucky guy. Drew.
Thanks so much. Great to hearyour voice. And we'll talk soon.
Okay, thank you, Jed,see you all right when we get back.
We got let me give you thelineup tonight. Okay, we'll go
to talk a little bit after nineo'clock. With this development down in Louisiana,
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they are now going to try well, they're going to post the Ten
Commandments in all public schools, kindergarten, elementary school, junior high, high
school, and even public universities inLouisiana. First day in the country to
do that. I think it's interesting, and we're going to talk about that.
We're also going to talk with ProfessorMary and Glendon of Harvard Law School,
(38:07):
Harvard University Law School. She hasworked inside and outside the courts of
three popes, in the courts ofthree popes, an American lawyer and diplomat
in the last absolute monarchy of theWest, the papacies of John Paul second
and his successors, including Pope Francis, and she is going to have I
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think some very interesting things to sayabout that. And then in the twentieth
hour tonight, I will tell youin advance what I want to do.
Normally we do a light topic.We're going to be a little light.
But the question that I'm going toask tonight, should Robert F. Kennedy
Junior be allowed to participate in nextweek's first presidential debate under CNN's criteria.
RFK failed to qualify for the debate. My question is, who's CNN to
(38:55):
set up some criteria. It's nottheir presidential election, the people's presidential election.
And clearly Robert F. Kennedy Juniorhas exceeded expectations. He may not,
and will explain that that'll be oureleven o'clock call whether or not he
should be a participant on the stagenext Thursday night. My name is Dan
Ray. This is Nightside, itis Friday night. It is the first
(39:17):
full day of summer. It's cooledoff a little bit. Thankfully. Please
stay with us and let know,let your points of view be known.
We're going to talk about the TenCommandments going back into some public school classrooms
in America in Louisiana. Let's havesome fun with this one, because I
think I can argue this one bothways. Coming back on Nightside,
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