July 23, 2024 • 36 mins
We kicked off the program with four news stories and different guests on the stories we think you need to know about!
Cathy Zemaitis, NEADS Chief Development and Programs Officer says NEADS Is Looking To Change Service Dog Culture – Focusing on Their Red Vest Training Program.
Rachael Jones, MSN, APRN, FNP and VP, Clinical Client Strategy at WIN – a family-building and family support company shares the shocking true story of a man with a 1000 kids! A new Netflix Documentary shared this story of what you need to know about sperm donations…
Michael Fleischer - author of "The 7 Figure Freelancer" answers the question "Is Remote Work Dying Out?"
And, Dr. Bobby Corrigan, a renowned rodentologist – drafted Boston’s action plan on getting rid of rats.
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Cathy Zemaitis, NEADS Chief Development and Programs Officer says NEADS Is Looking To Change Service Dog Culture – Focusing on Their Red Vest Training Program.
Rachael Jones, MSN, APRN, FNP and VP, Clinical Client Strategy at WIN – a family-building and family support company shares the shocking true story of a man with a 1000 kids! A new Netflix Documentary shared this story of what you need to know about sperm donations…
Michael Fleischer - author of "The 7 Figure Freelancer" answers the question "Is Remote Work Dying Out?"
And, Dr. Bobby Corrigan, a renowned rodentologist – drafted Boston’s action plan on getting rid of rats.
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It's Night Side with Dan Ray.I'm delling you leazy Boston News Radio.
Thank you very much, Dan Watkins. As we begin at Tuesday night here,
it's about eight oh yeah, eighto seven exactly. I think that's
the time at least been coming upon eight oh eight whatever. Work theme
on in everybody, It is aTuesday night. My name is Dan Ray.
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Rob Brooks, the producer of thisprogram, is back in the control
room it Broadcast Central. I'll setto take your calls, but we won't
get any calls until nine o'clock,so you can relax. During this first
hour. We have four topics ofquite a bit of interest. Actually this
two or three tonight that gonna makeyour head spin, So just stay with
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us as we work our way throughthe night. After nine o'clock, we're
going to talk, amongst other things, about the resignation of the Secret Service
director. She was grilled yesterday orKimberly Cheatle is her name, and she
was grilled yesterday in front of Congress. She was not fired, but she
was allowed to resign. And thenwe'll also talk about the obvious campaign,
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if you will, that is alreadyunderway of a vice president Harris who will
be the twenty twenty four Democratic presidentialnominee. It's very interesting times here,
so a lot of different politics totalk about, and I think it's going
to be a fascinating race between nowand November fifth. And I wouldn't be
vetting a lot of money in eitherdirection, to be really honest with you.
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But we are first going to getto our guests. We're going to
talk about a great nonprofit organization,NEEDS, looking to change service dog culture
and focusing on something called the redVest Training Program with US is the Chief
Development and Programs Officer of NEEDS,Kathy Zemidas. Kathy, I have done
events with NEEDS over the years,and I what does the acronym stand for?
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I was trying to find what theacronym stood for and I can't find
it. But I assume any aD the D has to serve for dogs.
What what the NEA D stand for? Well, I got to tell
you, Dan, I'm actually gladthat you could not find what the acronym
stands for, because we don't reallyconsider it an acronym anymore. We just
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say that we are NEEDS. ButI will tell you that if you insist
on knowing it's National Education for AssistanceDog Services. But again, we've we've
removed the whole idea that it's anacronym and we we're just known as NEEDS
world Class Service Dogs. Well,I think that's fine, and now I
feel I'm not as embarrassed I've done. I remember doing one event for you
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up. I think it was atFort Devens. This is going to be
probably ten or fifteen years ago.It's a great Okay. I don't know
if you were with the company,with the organization back then, but no,
no, I wasn't really wonderful people. So tell us exactly what NEEDS
does and what the red Best trainingprogram is, and we also want to
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find out what our listeners might beable to do, either to get involved
or to supports. Well, thisis all great, I can tell you.
In a nutshell that NEEDS breeds,raises, trains and matches world class
service dogs. We're very, veryproud of what we do, and we've
been doing it since nineteen seventy sixand we've placed over two thousand dogs across
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the country with individuals who need them. About ah gosh, ten years ago,
and I'm sure you remember this whenthere was just this huge hubub about
all the animals getting on airplanes andtheir emotional support animals, and the airlines
were just having a horrible problem.And then all of a sudden, we
had emotional support dogs. And thenpeople started trying to access public venues saying
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that they were allowed by the ADAto come in because this is my emotional
support dog or my service There weresome people who liked had an emotional support
ostrogen tried to bring them on anairplane. Some weird in and the chickens,
yeah, and the chickens all thatstuff. It was crazy. So
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we if you look at the ADA, they state very clearly that a service
animal is a dog, and theairlines did realize that, you know,
eventually that they kind of shot themselvesin the foot because of all the you
know, hubbub that was happening onthe airline and dangerous stuff too. When
you're up in the air with adog that feels threatened, bad stuff can
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happen. So we began to workon the legislative side to see if we
couldn't get a bill passed in Massachusettsmaking it illegal to present your dog,
your pet dog as a service dog. And that was ten years ago that
we started this effort. We stillhaven't gotten that bill passed, but we're
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still working on it. We hopeit goes to commission this year. But
in the kind of journey that wewent through, we've began to think,
well, the bill isn't going topass anytime soon, and really, what
good is the bill if there isn'tsupport and education. So we came up
with the red Vest Initiative. Thefact it was the brainchild of our director
of Communications, Audrey Treschmann, andshe asked if I would jump in and
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help, and I did so,very very enthusiastically and very happily. And
what the red Vest Initiative is isan education program that we present to places
that allow public access, training themand teaching them about not only their responsibilities
regarding legitimate service dog access, butalso their rights, because so often folks
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will allow public access are afraid togo, oh, this is my service
dog, and they're afraid to sayanything, and they let the dog in
and the dog behaves, perhaps inan inappropriate way, and they're afraid to
ask the dog to leave. Businesseshave rights as much as they have responsibilities
regarding service dog access. So youknow, we've worked with Boston Symphony Orchestra
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at Symphony Hall, Tanglewood, theBoston Public Library, the Polar Park has
a red vest designation, so doesFenway. And what that means is that
their staff has taken the training andthey now understand the two questions that you
can ask if someone presents at yourdoor saying, this is my service dog.
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And of course the questions are isthe dog a service animal required because
of a disability? And if theperson says yes, they can ask what
work or task has the dog beentrained to perform? And the person has
to answer that question, and ithas to be a task. They can't
just say, oh, he reducesmy anxiety or he gives me comfort.
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That's not a task. A taskis something that the dog is trained to
do on command, gates the symptomsof a person's disability. And if they
answer the questions correctly, you know, according to the idea, you have
to let them in, no matterwhat you think, you have to let
them in. Wow, how canyou so? Does that only apply?
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It's going to get complicated. Nowdoes this only apply to dogs? Are
any other animals under the ADA allowedto be service animals? Or no,
it only applies to dogs. Insome states it applies to miniature horses.
Massachusetts is one of those states thatdoes designate a miniature horse as a service
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animal. That's not across the board. So according to the ADA, it's
a dog in some cases a miniaturehorse. But miniature horse has to have
the same type of training that aservice dog does. Has to perform a
task, and it also has togive me an example. Obviously, people
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who are who are not non sightedand they have a guide dog, everyone
give me an example of them.Yes, a service dog, yep,
a service dog has to do something, as I said, to mitigate the
symptoms of disability. So you dropsomething, you tell the dog to such
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and it it ticks the object upand holds it and hands it to you.
Our dogs have fifty to sixty differenttasks and commands that they learned the
dog. Yeah, someone who hasa bad back and they drop their car
keys or whatever. Okay, Iget Yeah, it's something you have to
be permanently disabled in order to legitimatelywork with a service dogs. Stuff.
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Well, all you're doing is you'retightening up a program that by everyone's I
assume consideration and judgment is a veryvaluable and necessary program, but you're also
making sure that people aren't taking advantageof the program to try to get on
air planes with a service alligator orsomething like that. Yeah, airplace,
don't let other species on board.I was just speaking Italian chief because I
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know that there was a period oftime where you would see these weird stories
that someone would haven't I use theword ostrich. I don't know that I've
ever remembered seeing an oscars, butI think there were people with chickens and
whatever. Chickens. But you knowwhat you're remembering. You're remembering the peacock
and the peacock peacocks. You knowwhat they say about peacocks, by the
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way, Catherine peacocks one day,feather duster the next. Oh my gosh,
okay, I can't. So howcan folks get in touch with needs
if they'd like to volunteer, liketo support, like to get more information?
What's the website? So the websiteis needs n E A D S
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dot org. If you dive in, it's a very comprehensive website. You
know, of course, we're anonprofit. Would appreciate donations if you are
a business and you I would luliked the Red Vest Initiative training. We
come and we do that, andmost businesses are all businesses that we're been
who are so grateful because they nowunderstand their rights and how they can ask
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a misbehaving dog to leave and it'slegal you can ask them to leave.
Well, so I think it's greatbecause the red vest training is not for
the dogs. The dogs don't haveto wear or are the dogs supposed to
wear red vests? What's that?I lost you? You've lost me?
Hello? Okay, there you are? Yeah, okay, ships, Sorry,
I got you? Are the dogs? Also, I should have asked
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this before. Service dogs supposed tonow wear a red vest to delineate them
as service dogs. That's a goodquestion. Our service dogs need service dogs
to wear a red vest, whichis why we call it the Red Vest
Initiative or the RESI red Vest designation. But service dogs of schools have all
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different colored vests. Ours perfect.So needs any ads dot org or all
sorts of information. Kathy, thankyou very much for your time and thank
you. It's a great, greatprogram you've run. I'm very familiar with
it over the years. Thank youso much. We have a great evening.
Thank you much. Kathy Zemitas ofthe needs dot Org organization anya ds
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dot org. Coming right back onNightside, we are going to talk about
a Netflix documentary about a gentleman,the true story of a man who has
one thousand That's right, count themup, one thousand children. We'll explain
how and we'll explain why right afterthe break. Now back to Dan ray
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Line from the Window World, nightSide Studios on WBZ News Radio. Okay,
many of us realize that big familiesonce used to be a staple of
countries around the world, even inAmerica, seven eight nine kids was not
unusual. However, there's a Netflixdocumentary coming out that cheers the story,
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the shocking true story if a manwith one thousand kids. Yeah, this
guy is a sperm donor with us. Is Rachel Jones. Rachel's is with
Clinical Strategy at Win, which isa fertility clinic. Rachel, this is
an unbelievable story. I guess alot of the people who utilize this gentleman's
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offerings. His name is Jonathan Meser, a miser of He lives in Holland.
What's going on here? This isa crazy story. Yeah, it
definitely is It definitely is yeah,you know, there's there's different ways to
get donor sperm. When somebody islooking to get donor sperm. He basically
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put himself in all of the avenues, which I think is fairly unusual.
But yes, he donated in spermclinics all over Denmark, all over the
world. Really he went to allof I don't want to spoil the documentary
for anybody who wants to watch iton Netflix, but certainly, you know,
he he did that, plus donatingindividually to two members. And I
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think that's really the kind of alarmingpiece that you just kind of want to
know as somebody that may be interestedin trying to, you know, procure
a donor sperm, either because you'reyou're single, or or your partner doesn't
have sperm, or you know,whether the case may be. You know,
you want to make sure that you'rethat you're really going with a reputable
source. And I think that waspart of the problem, is that a
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lot of people were just find hecreated his own website and essentially just advertised
himself and misled a lot of people. Is for this, I guess it's
all, oh, yeah, heis in trouble, you know, and
It's interesting because I think it's oneof the first big cases to actually kind
of go in front of any courtsystem, because we've never heard of it
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anything of this nature. So hehe is you know, they a bunch
of the women actually filed suit againsthim, and he is barred from donating
any any longer and that he'll befined at one hundred thousand euros for any
any future sperm donation. So he'snot he's not in trouble in the sense
of not like you know, gettingcriminal charges or anything like that, but
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he is barred at least from continuingto do so in the Netherlands, which
I guess is his home largely inanother I stopping him at this point from
going to another country and advertising hisYes, now, that's very true.
I think Denmark was especially concerned becausethey're such a small country. So the
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the you know, the the conceptthat you knew of people even within your
inner circle that had also used tosperm, and the chances of kind of
incestuous relationships with the larger concern inDenmark. But you're right, it's really
Yeah, how how regulated is thiswhole process? I mean, I know
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that obviously there are people who tryto find sperm donors who have a certain
education level, maybe they're of acertain stature. I know that there's a
lot of that stuff that goes onthere. It's yeah, it's kind of
it's kind of it's kind of afree market if you want. Yes,
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no, it definitely is. It'sawesome. It's been compared to kind of
dating websites kind of in that sense. I actually have also used donor sperm,
so I have gone through this processof selecting my own. It's like
a dating profile. Yeah, youknow, the hard part is it is
not highly regulated. The part thatis regulated if you're actually going through official
sources, like if you're going througha sperm bank for example, an actual
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you know, company institution is thatthey do screen for sexually transmitted diseases,
they screen for genetics, and thenthey do ask all of the questions,
So they ask about the medical historyof the individual, they ask about you
know, and also the dating profiletype things, you know, what do
you like to do. Sometimes they'lleven take snippets of somebody playing guitar or
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drawing art or something right, talkingabout genetic you know, inclinations, whether
they amuse be oriented, I getthat at this at this time, this
is we're now twenty twenty four.I mean, this is not something that
is new to the world, that'sbeen going on for a while at an
ordinary sperm bank or whatever. You'retalking about, what what does an individual
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pay be paid? How much doessomeone pay for donating to us? How
much are they paid? This guybasically made you know, millions of dollars
because he's so well known or justknow. That was that was the crazy
thing. And I think that's whyeverybody's trying to figure out what's going on
in his mind, is because there'snot a way to be profitable off of
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this. You maybe make a couplehundred bucks, and that's only at the
banks, right. A lot ofwhat he donated to were individuals and they
didn't charge them anything. So itseems to have been some kind of psychological
reason why he decided to do this, like it was a challenge or something,
because there's not a way. Youknow, most of the people that
donate really are college kids that needto make a couple hundred bucks. Yeah,
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it's not something you canish. WorldBook of Records, maybe exactly exactly
when is this documentary coming out?I think it's out now. Actually I
was able to see it. Yeah, so people can go and see it.
I don't work for Netflix, butbut I watched the trailer. Uh.
Interesting, that's for sure. Yeah, and it's it's interesting. Whenever
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science takes a big step forward,there's always some things that some implications of
it that we have to think about, absolutely that we have to catch up
to. It seems like that's alwayshow it happens. Catch up is always
ahead of us. Rachel. That'sgreat. So you have a fertility clinic,
and there's a lot of fertility clinicsaround the country and more and more
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people going to fertility clinics. Yeah. So actually, Win is a company
that kind of manages the fertility experienceand kind of connects people with experience fertility
nurses like myself kind of helps them. If there are someone listening to people
listening, how would they get intouch with you through Win? What's the
website? Yeah, absolutely, Ifyou just go to winfertility dot com,
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so it's wi nfertility dot com,then we have you know, we really
help match people with clinics and helppeople find discounted rates and that kind of
thing. Great, Rachel, Thanksvery much. I enjoyed the conversation is
one of those delicate conversations, butI think you hear them pretty well.
Thank you so much. Yeah,absolutely, thanks for your time. Take
care, nice pleasure. All right. You listen to WBZ in Boston,
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Boston's news radio ten thirty and yourAM dial. You can all listening to
WZ radio wherever you go on theiHeartRadio app. We've heard all over the
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program. That's what I get sucha kick out of it. You never
know when the phone calls start afternine o'clock who you'll be talking with.
Talked with a woman vacationing in Suburbia, the other night woman that lives in
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Rhode Island as a regular caller,and we've had people call under all circumstances.
But we don't start doing that untilnine because we have two more guests
coming up. We're going to talkwith a gentleman about is remote work dying
out not necessarily? And then ateight forty five we'll talk to a renowned
rodent ologist who drafted Boston's action planto get rid of the rats. And
I'm not talking about the city Council. I'm talking about the actual rodents that
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are infesting our city, four leggedrodents that infesting our city. Right now,
we will be back on Nightside rightafter the news break at the bottom
of the hour. If you're onnight Side on w z Boston's news radio.
All right, we've all heard sinceCOVID arrived about remote work, and
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some people think remote work now isstarting to die out because companies want people
back in the office. With meis Michael Fleischer. He's the author of
The Seven Figure Freelancer. I wonderwhat that is all about. It has
a master's degree from Northwestern University,immigrated marketing communications. Michael Fleischer. I
guess the first question is the SevenFigure Freelancer? Is that a book?
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It is? Hey, Dan,thanks for having me, And yeah,
I you know, I spent manyyears in corporate America and thought that was
the only way to make a livingand stumbled into freelancing. A lot of
people called a side hustle or youknow, working above and beyond your normal
day job. And I found itto be not just creative, but certainly
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much more fulfilling. And it reallygave me the flexibility that I think a
lot of people are looking for whoare stuck in a nine to five job,
But what sort of freelancing? Iworked in TV for many years,
for thirty one years, actually lessfive days, but who was counting,
and we had freelance reporters. Thesewere people who were not on the staff
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and they would work for us acouple of days a week or maybe three
days a week, and they wereconsidered freelancers. So what sort of work
do you freelance? Covers a varietyof sins by it if you get my
job. Yeah, it's like saying, I'm a consult I meet peoples.
What do you do for I'm aconsultant? Really, what do you con
sel? What do you do tellus? Yeah? Yeah, and you
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know, to your point, likethis whole concept is not new, but
there are a lot of people whohave been stuck in these nine to five
jobs and they're not aware that thereare so many other ways that you can
create value earn money. Whether it'sa consultant, a coach. I started
out as a marketing freelancer, helpingpeople build websites. Even if you do
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something like dog walking that could beconsidered freelancing. It's something Yeah, it's
a way to earn money and you'renot tied to a desk. I'll tell
you, some of the happiest peoplein the world that I have ever met
are dog walkers. They get toplay with dogs all day and make money.
It sounds great, Well, ifyou like dogs, which I do.
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I love dogs. When I retire, I'm going to become a dog
walker. Just that's for the funof it. Absolutely so. Now we're
going through this whole thing about remotework. People work remotely, and now
the bosses come and say, hey, it's time to get back to the
office, get your butt in theoffice, and a lot of people are
saying, hey, no way,I've enjoyed this. What's the trend here?
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Are people going back? Yeah?You know, it's really interesting what's
happening now because many companies are askingployeesto come back into the office, many
of them not full time, meaningnot asking employees to be there every day,
but maybe two or three days aweek. And as a result,
a lot of employees who got usedto working from home five days a week
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are now saying, hmm, doI really want to start commuting back to
the office. And in fact,according to a recent Forbes article, it
said something like two thirds of individualswant to be their own boss. Now,
whether you believe that's statistic or not, the reality is more and more
people are looking for alternatives to havingto go back into the office. I
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believe that statistic because very few peopleyou know who are their own boss fire
themselves. This is certainly true jobsecurity here. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well, you know the truth isfreelancing isn't for everyone. I think
there are some people who love workingfor corporations. They love having the structure
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of a nine to five job oran eight to six job or whatever it
looks like for them. But thereare still more people who I believe really
want to follow their passion. Theywant to do work that's fulfilling and enjoyable,
and that can be done outside thetraditional corporation. You know, it's
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it's inspiring to hear someone like yourself. I understand that impulse, but people
need to understand that there's a lotof responsibilities because when you do become your
own boss and have your own company, you still have to comply with all
sorts of government regulations. If youhave some employees, you withhold taxes,
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and you got to make payments andyou've got to have insurance for all of
all of that. I mean,there's a lot of work. Even if
you're doing something which seems as idyllicas a dog walker. If you really
canning get into a bit business,you've got to do it, that's right.
You got to do the forty hoursa week or whatever it is doing
the job. And then you havea responsibilities. And if you want to
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expand it, you have to youhave to find good people. And I
think finding good people or people whonot only are good, but you are
compatible with in a small brocess environmenthas to be difficult, very tough.
What advice do you give people havingbeen successful and making this transition yourself?
What advice do you give people whocontact you? And we'll give you a
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way in which people can contact youdirectly, Oh, but generally, sure,
what do you tell them look beforeyou leap? Yeah, well,
you know, that's one of thereasons why I wrote The Seven figure Freelancer.
I was getting a lot of questionsfrom people saying, not only how
can I become a freelancer, buthow can I become a successful freelancer?
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What are some of the commonalities,What are some of the pitfalls that people
need to avoid. And what Ifound was that the approach of the most
successful freelancers can vary, but atthe end of the day, they went
through a cycle of what I callcrawl, walk, run. Many of
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them did not literally come up withan idea on Monday and quit their jobs
on Tuesday. Although you hear aboutpeople who do do that, the reality
is that freelancing is a process.You were talking about all the different things
that go into freelancing. You haveto structure it properly. You need an
accountant, you need to set upyour business, You need to think about
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your services and how you're pricing them. It can be really complicated unless you
start small, which is don't quityour day job. That's my first advice
suggestions. Absolutely absolutely, and ifyou have that stability, then night's weekends,
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whenever you have some time, youcan start thinking about what you want
to do as a freelancer and startthat process. And once that takes hold
and everyone has a different level ofrisk tolerance, then you can actually step
out on your own. I recentlygave a ted X talk, and in
that talk I admitted that I washighly risk averse. I wasn't ready to
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you know, jump right away.So I actually, you know, worked
as freelancing for two to three yearsbefore I left my full time job.
So everyone has to think about whatare they comfortable with, when are they
willing to make that leap or ifthey want to make that leap. And
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I think that's probably the most importantadvice is that freelancing looks different for everyone,
So you have to do what you'recomfortable with, and you know,
ultimately do something or my model somethingin a way that works with your current
and future situation. All great,great advice, Michael, Michael, How
can folks get in touch with youdirectly? Obviously they could buy the book
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Seven Figure Freelancing. I'm sure thatit is available, But if they want
to get in touch with if yougot a website, yeah, absolutely,
so folks can visit seven Figure Freelancingdot com. They can check out the
book on Amazon, and of courseI'm available on LinkedIn under Michael Fleischner.
Sounds great. Spell that for me. It's f L E I S C
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h n E R. All right, you got to get that in in
there. Okay, my producer missd n here, So it's Michael Fleischner,
right, Okay, perfect, we'llget all those consonants pronounced. Michael,
thank you very much. I enjoyedthis conversation, and congratulations on figuring
it out. I'm still trying tofigure it out. Okay. Yeah,
there's always a room for improvement.I have no doubt about that. I
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believe that every day. Thank youso much, Mike. When we get
back, we're going to talk abouta situation that needs a lot of improvement,
and that is the situation of ratsin Boston. Rats are virtually everywhere,
and we're going to talk with doctorBobby Corgan. He's around. He's
a renowned rodent ologist. He draftedBoston's action plan how to get rid of
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the rats. And it has nothingto do with hiring a pied piper.
Oh that we could. We'll beback on Nightside with doctor Bobby Corgan right
after this. Now back to DanRay live from the Window World night Side
Studios on WBZ News Radio. Well, Boston is a great city, but
we have a lot of problems,and one of them are rats. A
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lot of rats. With me isdoctor Bobby Corgan. He's a renowned rodentologist,
and he drafted Boston's rat action plan, which I guess this. Everything
has an acronym, doctor, it'sBratt b our Yeah. Is that great?
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Prap prap b r ap. Welcometo night side. How are you
good? Damn? How are youdoing doing great? Now? Look,
most kids when they grow up,they want to be a baseball player,
firefighter, policeman, something like that. But I don't assume people too many
kids grow up saying when I gethome, I want to become a rodentologist.
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So how'd you become a rodentologist?I mean mistake. I was always
a nature ner, so as thekid and my brother is playing football,
I was chasing answer to that.We're having a doctor. We're having a
little problem with your audio. SoI'm going to have Rob jump on the
line here because there's a couple oflittle tricks that he will be able to
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tell you, which is going toclean up that audio for us. And
I want people to hear everything thatyou have to say. My guest is
doctor Bobby Corgan. He is arodentologist, and he drafted Boston's action plan
to actually try to did the cityas best they can of rats. Uh,
let's see if we got him backhere. Let's see how you sound
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now. So so you became arodentologist just because of what you were interested
in. I guess the way inwhich small insects and insects and animals you
know, move around, and andhow they populate and and and where where
they found. And I assume thenyou have professional degrees in this area.
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Yeah. I went from uh,you know, just in college, I
switched over to studying mammal to anotherand ended up chasing rats because they're very
cool mammal, very secretive. AndI have to tell you, Dan,
the rats and paid every single billI've had ever since. Well that's there's
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always a positive, is the yingand the yang and all of that.
Okay, So so what are wegoing to do? In Boston? There
was a you know, I well, how do you get rid of rats?
Because if you if you put outpoison in traps, you could you
could impact other animals. So Iguess you probably can't do that. What
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can you give them birth control pills? Well, you know, if this
is a very ironic thing, youknow, the rats are like us.
They're mammals. They need food,they need regular food, and they need
a place to live. And youknow what we cause rats are pet so
human beings we tend to dismiss asjust being vermin that you put out some
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poison like you mentioned, or youput out some traps and just kill them.
But the bottom line is it's ananimals and animal population. It has
to be managed with that more mind. You have to have science behind it.
But it's still simple. Rats needfood, No food, no rats.
And so the number one rule formanaging rats the world over and a
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husband for two hundred years of publications. If you see you just need to
someone look in the mirror and ask, am I taking out my trash correctly?
And we should learn that in secondgrade. But walk around your own
block and you don't see how manypeople do not know how to take out
their trash. Oh, there's nono question, no question about that.
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So one of the ways in whichyou can modify behavior of humans is for
the city to get aggressive and findpeople who who leave trash in barrels that
rats can have access to, thebarrels that don't have you know, covers
on them that they click on.I mean, is that part of your
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plan to actually turn around and gointo the neighborhoods and let people know what
they have to do. And ifthey don't comply, have them start to
They ticket us for everything else.They ticket us for, you know,
for parking in the wrong place,for going through stop signs, for jaywalking.
Why not ticket people for this?No, you totally correct, you
know it should be one of Look, some ways, we found some things
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wrong with the way you're doing yourtrash. Here's some helpful tips. We
hope you'll follow us where we're tryingto help you help us. Golob have
to come off. Some people reallydon't get it. And if you have
a neighbor that's not being good withthe trash that affects you, that will
bring in rets to your area aswell. So rats don't observe and obey
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fences and property lines. They cometo the area where the food is okay,
quick question, how far will itwill a rat travel? Either in
their lifetime or in a month?Meaning if if if let us say,
in Boston tomorrow, there was nofood available for rats, no garbage,
every trash bag was was closed upand was inside a container the rats could
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not get into. Where would therats go to? Cambridge and Somerville and
places where maybe other communities? Rightright, they are great disperses. You
know, they're from Mongolia and nowthey're roll over the world, so they
have no trouble being travel experts.They'll do what they have to. They
will keep moving until they find areasthat reward them. And on the way.
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You know, this animal, theydon't even need to do our trash
occasions. They'll do birds, they'lltake up earthworms and the ground really a
slug or snails. They'll do whateverit takes to get the protein. So
they're on the vores, totallynivores.Doctor. Let to have you back on
some night with a better phone connection. I'm going to have my producer get
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in touch. The phone connection wastough tonight. But since you now are
part of Boston, haven't written thisreport, love to get you back on.
Take some phone calls from individuals andsee if we can spread the word,
you know, spread the gospel ofgetting rid of rats. I think
we all can agree. Thanks somuch. Yeah, you bet all right.
Take care to them. By doctorBobby cor Corgan, a renowned rodentologist.
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We come back. We're going tostart off tonight talking about a resignation
today. No, not not JoeBiden. The resignation of the director's secret
service. My question is what tookher so long back on my side,
right after the night
It's Night Side with Dan Ray.I'm delling you leazy Boston News Radio.
Thank you very much, Dan Watkins. As we begin at Tuesday night here,
it's about eight oh yeah, eighto seven exactly. I think that's
the time at least been coming upon eight oh eight whatever. Work theme
on in everybody, It is aTuesday night. My name is Dan Ray.
(00:21):
Rob Brooks, the producer of thisprogram, is back in the control
room it Broadcast Central. I'll setto take your calls, but we won't
get any calls until nine o'clock,so you can relax. During this first
hour. We have four topics ofquite a bit of interest. Actually this
two or three tonight that gonna makeyour head spin, So just stay with
(00:42):
us as we work our way throughthe night. After nine o'clock, we're
going to talk, amongst other things, about the resignation of the Secret Service
director. She was grilled yesterday orKimberly Cheatle is her name, and she
was grilled yesterday in front of Congress. She was not fired, but she
was allowed to resign. And thenwe'll also talk about the obvious campaign,
(01:07):
if you will, that is alreadyunderway of a vice president Harris who will
be the twenty twenty four Democratic presidentialnominee. It's very interesting times here,
so a lot of different politics totalk about, and I think it's going
to be a fascinating race between nowand November fifth. And I wouldn't be
vetting a lot of money in eitherdirection, to be really honest with you.
(01:29):
But we are first going to getto our guests. We're going to
talk about a great nonprofit organization,NEEDS, looking to change service dog culture
and focusing on something called the redVest Training Program with US is the Chief
Development and Programs Officer of NEEDS,Kathy Zemidas. Kathy, I have done
events with NEEDS over the years,and I what does the acronym stand for?
(01:55):
I was trying to find what theacronym stood for and I can't find
it. But I assume any aD the D has to serve for dogs.
What what the NEA D stand for? Well, I got to tell
you, Dan, I'm actually gladthat you could not find what the acronym
stands for, because we don't reallyconsider it an acronym anymore. We just
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say that we are NEEDS. ButI will tell you that if you insist
on knowing it's National Education for AssistanceDog Services. But again, we've we've
removed the whole idea that it's anacronym and we we're just known as NEEDS
world Class Service Dogs. Well,I think that's fine, and now I
feel I'm not as embarrassed I've done. I remember doing one event for you
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up. I think it was atFort Devens. This is going to be
probably ten or fifteen years ago.It's a great Okay. I don't know
if you were with the company,with the organization back then, but no,
no, I wasn't really wonderful people. So tell us exactly what NEEDS
does and what the red Best trainingprogram is, and we also want to
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find out what our listeners might beable to do, either to get involved
or to supports. Well, thisis all great, I can tell you.
In a nutshell that NEEDS breeds,raises, trains and matches world class
service dogs. We're very, veryproud of what we do, and we've
been doing it since nineteen seventy sixand we've placed over two thousand dogs across
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the country with individuals who need them. About ah gosh, ten years ago,
and I'm sure you remember this whenthere was just this huge hubub about
all the animals getting on airplanes andtheir emotional support animals, and the airlines
were just having a horrible problem.And then all of a sudden, we
had emotional support dogs. And thenpeople started trying to access public venues saying
(03:54):
that they were allowed by the ADAto come in because this is my emotional
support dog or my service There weresome people who liked had an emotional support
ostrogen tried to bring them on anairplane. Some weird in and the chickens,
yeah, and the chickens all thatstuff. It was crazy. So
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we if you look at the ADA, they state very clearly that a service
animal is a dog, and theairlines did realize that, you know,
eventually that they kind of shot themselvesin the foot because of all the you
know, hubbub that was happening onthe airline and dangerous stuff too. When
you're up in the air with adog that feels threatened, bad stuff can
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happen. So we began to workon the legislative side to see if we
couldn't get a bill passed in Massachusettsmaking it illegal to present your dog,
your pet dog as a service dog. And that was ten years ago that
we started this effort. We stillhaven't gotten that bill passed, but we're
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still working on it. We hopeit goes to commission this year. But
in the kind of journey that wewent through, we've began to think,
well, the bill isn't going topass anytime soon, and really, what
good is the bill if there isn'tsupport and education. So we came up
with the red Vest Initiative. Thefact it was the brainchild of our director
of Communications, Audrey Treschmann, andshe asked if I would jump in and
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help, and I did so,very very enthusiastically and very happily. And
what the red Vest Initiative is isan education program that we present to places
that allow public access, training themand teaching them about not only their responsibilities
regarding legitimate service dog access, butalso their rights, because so often folks
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will allow public access are afraid togo, oh, this is my service
dog, and they're afraid to sayanything, and they let the dog in
and the dog behaves, perhaps inan inappropriate way, and they're afraid to
ask the dog to leave. Businesseshave rights as much as they have responsibilities
regarding service dog access. So youknow, we've worked with Boston Symphony Orchestra
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at Symphony Hall, Tanglewood, theBoston Public Library, the Polar Park has
a red vest designation, so doesFenway. And what that means is that
their staff has taken the training andthey now understand the two questions that you
can ask if someone presents at yourdoor saying, this is my service dog.
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And of course the questions are isthe dog a service animal required because
of a disability? And if theperson says yes, they can ask what
work or task has the dog beentrained to perform? And the person has
to answer that question, and ithas to be a task. They can't
just say, oh, he reducesmy anxiety or he gives me comfort.
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That's not a task. A taskis something that the dog is trained to
do on command, gates the symptomsof a person's disability. And if they
answer the questions correctly, you know, according to the idea, you have
to let them in, no matterwhat you think, you have to let
them in. Wow, how canyou so? Does that only apply?
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It's going to get complicated. Nowdoes this only apply to dogs? Are
any other animals under the ADA allowedto be service animals? Or no,
it only applies to dogs. Insome states it applies to miniature horses.
Massachusetts is one of those states thatdoes designate a miniature horse as a service
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animal. That's not across the board. So according to the ADA, it's
a dog in some cases a miniaturehorse. But miniature horse has to have
the same type of training that aservice dog does. Has to perform a
task, and it also has togive me an example. Obviously, people
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who are who are not non sightedand they have a guide dog, everyone
give me an example of them.Yes, a service dog, yep,
a service dog has to do something, as I said, to mitigate the
symptoms of disability. So you dropsomething, you tell the dog to such
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and it it ticks the object upand holds it and hands it to you.
Our dogs have fifty to sixty differenttasks and commands that they learned the
dog. Yeah, someone who hasa bad back and they drop their car
keys or whatever. Okay, Iget Yeah, it's something you have to
be permanently disabled in order to legitimatelywork with a service dogs. Stuff.
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Well, all you're doing is you'retightening up a program that by everyone's I
assume consideration and judgment is a veryvaluable and necessary program, but you're also
making sure that people aren't taking advantageof the program to try to get on
air planes with a service alligator orsomething like that. Yeah, airplace,
don't let other species on board.I was just speaking Italian chief because I
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know that there was a period oftime where you would see these weird stories
that someone would haven't I use theword ostrich. I don't know that I've
ever remembered seeing an oscars, butI think there were people with chickens and
whatever. Chickens. But you knowwhat you're remembering. You're remembering the peacock
and the peacock peacocks. You knowwhat they say about peacocks, by the
(09:30):
way, Catherine peacocks one day,feather duster the next. Oh my gosh,
okay, I can't. So howcan folks get in touch with needs
if they'd like to volunteer, liketo support, like to get more information?
What's the website? So the websiteis needs n E A D S
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dot org. If you dive in, it's a very comprehensive website. You
know, of course, we're anonprofit. Would appreciate donations if you are
a business and you I would luliked the Red Vest Initiative training. We
come and we do that, andmost businesses are all businesses that we're been
who are so grateful because they nowunderstand their rights and how they can ask
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a misbehaving dog to leave and it'slegal you can ask them to leave.
Well, so I think it's greatbecause the red vest training is not for
the dogs. The dogs don't haveto wear or are the dogs supposed to
wear red vests? What's that?I lost you? You've lost me?
Hello? Okay, there you are? Yeah, okay, ships, Sorry,
I got you? Are the dogs? Also, I should have asked
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this before. Service dogs supposed tonow wear a red vest to delineate them
as service dogs. That's a goodquestion. Our service dogs need service dogs
to wear a red vest, whichis why we call it the Red Vest
Initiative or the RESI red Vest designation. But service dogs of schools have all
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different colored vests. Ours perfect.So needs any ads dot org or all
sorts of information. Kathy, thankyou very much for your time and thank
you. It's a great, greatprogram you've run. I'm very familiar with
it over the years. Thank youso much. We have a great evening.
Thank you much. Kathy Zemitas ofthe needs dot Org organization anya ds
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dot org. Coming right back onNightside, we are going to talk about
a Netflix documentary about a gentleman,the true story of a man who has
one thousand That's right, count themup, one thousand children. We'll explain
how and we'll explain why right afterthe break. Now back to Dan ray
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Line from the Window World, nightSide Studios on WBZ News Radio. Okay,
many of us realize that big familiesonce used to be a staple of
countries around the world, even inAmerica, seven eight nine kids was not
unusual. However, there's a Netflixdocumentary coming out that cheers the story,
(12:05):
the shocking true story if a manwith one thousand kids. Yeah, this
guy is a sperm donor with us. Is Rachel Jones. Rachel's is with
Clinical Strategy at Win, which isa fertility clinic. Rachel, this is
an unbelievable story. I guess alot of the people who utilize this gentleman's
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offerings. His name is Jonathan Meser, a miser of He lives in Holland.
What's going on here? This isa crazy story. Yeah, it
definitely is It definitely is yeah,you know, there's there's different ways to
get donor sperm. When somebody islooking to get donor sperm. He basically
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put himself in all of the avenues, which I think is fairly unusual.
But yes, he donated in spermclinics all over Denmark, all over the
world. Really he went to allof I don't want to spoil the documentary
for anybody who wants to watch iton Netflix, but certainly, you know,
he he did that, plus donatingindividually to two members. And I
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think that's really the kind of alarmingpiece that you just kind of want to
know as somebody that may be interestedin trying to, you know, procure
a donor sperm, either because you'reyou're single, or or your partner doesn't
have sperm, or you know,whether the case may be. You know,
you want to make sure that you'rethat you're really going with a reputable
source. And I think that waspart of the problem, is that a
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lot of people were just find hecreated his own website and essentially just advertised
himself and misled a lot of people. Is for this, I guess it's
all, oh, yeah, heis in trouble, you know, and
It's interesting because I think it's oneof the first big cases to actually kind
of go in front of any courtsystem, because we've never heard of it
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anything of this nature. So hehe is you know, they a bunch
of the women actually filed suit againsthim, and he is barred from donating
any any longer and that he'll befined at one hundred thousand euros for any
any future sperm donation. So he'snot he's not in trouble in the sense
of not like you know, gettingcriminal charges or anything like that, but
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he is barred at least from continuingto do so in the Netherlands, which
I guess is his home largely inanother I stopping him at this point from
going to another country and advertising hisYes, now, that's very true.
I think Denmark was especially concerned becausethey're such a small country. So the
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the you know, the the conceptthat you knew of people even within your
inner circle that had also used tosperm, and the chances of kind of
incestuous relationships with the larger concern inDenmark. But you're right, it's really
Yeah, how how regulated is thiswhole process? I mean, I know
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that obviously there are people who tryto find sperm donors who have a certain
education level, maybe they're of acertain stature. I know that there's a
lot of that stuff that goes onthere. It's yeah, it's kind of
it's kind of it's kind of afree market if you want. Yes,
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no, it definitely is. It'sawesome. It's been compared to kind of
dating websites kind of in that sense. I actually have also used donor sperm,
so I have gone through this processof selecting my own. It's like
a dating profile. Yeah, youknow, the hard part is it is
not highly regulated. The part thatis regulated if you're actually going through official
sources, like if you're going througha sperm bank for example, an actual
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you know, company institution is thatthey do screen for sexually transmitted diseases,
they screen for genetics, and thenthey do ask all of the questions,
So they ask about the medical historyof the individual, they ask about you
know, and also the dating profiletype things, you know, what do
you like to do. Sometimes they'lleven take snippets of somebody playing guitar or
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drawing art or something right, talkingabout genetic you know, inclinations, whether
they amuse be oriented, I getthat at this at this time, this
is we're now twenty twenty four.I mean, this is not something that
is new to the world, that'sbeen going on for a while at an
ordinary sperm bank or whatever. You'retalking about, what what does an individual
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pay be paid? How much doessomeone pay for donating to us? How
much are they paid? This guybasically made you know, millions of dollars
because he's so well known or justknow. That was that was the crazy
thing. And I think that's whyeverybody's trying to figure out what's going on
in his mind, is because there'snot a way to be profitable off of
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this. You maybe make a couplehundred bucks, and that's only at the
banks, right. A lot ofwhat he donated to were individuals and they
didn't charge them anything. So itseems to have been some kind of psychological
reason why he decided to do this, like it was a challenge or something,
because there's not a way. Youknow, most of the people that
donate really are college kids that needto make a couple hundred bucks. Yeah,
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it's not something you canish. WorldBook of Records, maybe exactly exactly
when is this documentary coming out?I think it's out now. Actually I
was able to see it. Yeah, so people can go and see it.
I don't work for Netflix, butbut I watched the trailer. Uh.
Interesting, that's for sure. Yeah, and it's it's interesting. Whenever
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science takes a big step forward,there's always some things that some implications of
it that we have to think about, absolutely that we have to catch up
to. It seems like that's alwayshow it happens. Catch up is always
ahead of us. Rachel. That'sgreat. So you have a fertility clinic,
and there's a lot of fertility clinicsaround the country and more and more
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people going to fertility clinics. Yeah. So actually, Win is a company
that kind of manages the fertility experienceand kind of connects people with experience fertility
nurses like myself kind of helps them. If there are someone listening to people
listening, how would they get intouch with you through Win? What's the
website? Yeah, absolutely, Ifyou just go to winfertility dot com,
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so it's wi nfertility dot com,then we have you know, we really
help match people with clinics and helppeople find discounted rates and that kind of
thing. Great, Rachel, Thanksvery much. I enjoyed the conversation is
one of those delicate conversations, butI think you hear them pretty well.
Thank you so much. Yeah,absolutely, thanks for your time. Take
care, nice pleasure. All right. You listen to WBZ in Boston,
(18:56):
Boston's news radio ten thirty and yourAM dial. You can all listening to
WZ radio wherever you go on theiHeartRadio app. We've heard all over the
country, all around the world,which is a big part of doing this
program. That's what I get sucha kick out of it. You never
know when the phone calls start afternine o'clock who you'll be talking with.
Talked with a woman vacationing in Suburbia, the other night woman that lives in
(19:22):
Rhode Island as a regular caller,and we've had people call under all circumstances.
But we don't start doing that untilnine because we have two more guests
coming up. We're going to talkwith a gentleman about is remote work dying
out not necessarily? And then ateight forty five we'll talk to a renowned
rodent ologist who drafted Boston's action planto get rid of the rats. And
I'm not talking about the city Council. I'm talking about the actual rodents that
(19:48):
are infesting our city, four leggedrodents that infesting our city. Right now,
we will be back on Nightside rightafter the news break at the bottom
of the hour. If you're onnight Side on w z Boston's news radio.
All right, we've all heard sinceCOVID arrived about remote work, and
(20:11):
some people think remote work now isstarting to die out because companies want people
back in the office. With meis Michael Fleischer. He's the author of
The Seven Figure Freelancer. I wonderwhat that is all about. It has
a master's degree from Northwestern University,immigrated marketing communications. Michael Fleischer. I
guess the first question is the SevenFigure Freelancer? Is that a book?
(20:37):
It is? Hey, Dan,thanks for having me, And yeah,
I you know, I spent manyyears in corporate America and thought that was
the only way to make a livingand stumbled into freelancing. A lot of
people called a side hustle or youknow, working above and beyond your normal
day job. And I found itto be not just creative, but certainly
(21:00):
much more fulfilling. And it reallygave me the flexibility that I think a
lot of people are looking for whoare stuck in a nine to five job,
But what sort of freelancing? Iworked in TV for many years,
for thirty one years, actually lessfive days, but who was counting,
and we had freelance reporters. Thesewere people who were not on the staff
(21:22):
and they would work for us acouple of days a week or maybe three
days a week, and they wereconsidered freelancers. So what sort of work
do you freelance? Covers a varietyof sins by it if you get my
job. Yeah, it's like saying, I'm a consult I meet peoples.
What do you do for I'm aconsultant? Really, what do you con
sel? What do you do tellus? Yeah? Yeah, and you
(21:45):
know, to your point, likethis whole concept is not new, but
there are a lot of people whohave been stuck in these nine to five
jobs and they're not aware that thereare so many other ways that you can
create value earn money. Whether it'sa consultant, a coach. I started
out as a marketing freelancer, helpingpeople build websites. Even if you do
(22:08):
something like dog walking that could beconsidered freelancing. It's something Yeah, it's
a way to earn money and you'renot tied to a desk. I'll tell
you, some of the happiest peoplein the world that I have ever met
are dog walkers. They get toplay with dogs all day and make money.
It sounds great, Well, ifyou like dogs, which I do.
(22:30):
I love dogs. When I retire, I'm going to become a dog
walker. Just that's for the funof it. Absolutely so. Now we're
going through this whole thing about remotework. People work remotely, and now
the bosses come and say, hey, it's time to get back to the
office, get your butt in theoffice, and a lot of people are
saying, hey, no way,I've enjoyed this. What's the trend here?
(22:51):
Are people going back? Yeah?You know, it's really interesting what's
happening now because many companies are askingployeesto come back into the office, many
of them not full time, meaningnot asking employees to be there every day,
but maybe two or three days aweek. And as a result,
a lot of employees who got usedto working from home five days a week
(23:15):
are now saying, hmm, doI really want to start commuting back to
the office. And in fact,according to a recent Forbes article, it
said something like two thirds of individualswant to be their own boss. Now,
whether you believe that's statistic or not, the reality is more and more
people are looking for alternatives to havingto go back into the office. I
(23:40):
believe that statistic because very few peopleyou know who are their own boss fire
themselves. This is certainly true jobsecurity here. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Well, you know the truth isfreelancing isn't for everyone. I think
there are some people who love workingfor corporations. They love having the structure
(24:03):
of a nine to five job oran eight to six job or whatever it
looks like for them. But thereare still more people who I believe really
want to follow their passion. Theywant to do work that's fulfilling and enjoyable,
and that can be done outside thetraditional corporation. You know, it's
(24:25):
it's inspiring to hear someone like yourself. I understand that impulse, but people
need to understand that there's a lotof responsibilities because when you do become your
own boss and have your own company, you still have to comply with all
sorts of government regulations. If youhave some employees, you withhold taxes,
(24:48):
and you got to make payments andyou've got to have insurance for all of
all of that. I mean,there's a lot of work. Even if
you're doing something which seems as idyllicas a dog walker. If you really
canning get into a bit business,you've got to do it, that's right.
You got to do the forty hoursa week or whatever it is doing
the job. And then you havea responsibilities. And if you want to
(25:11):
expand it, you have to youhave to find good people. And I
think finding good people or people whonot only are good, but you are
compatible with in a small brocess environmenthas to be difficult, very tough.
What advice do you give people havingbeen successful and making this transition yourself?
What advice do you give people whocontact you? And we'll give you a
(25:33):
way in which people can contact youdirectly, Oh, but generally, sure,
what do you tell them look beforeyou leap? Yeah, well,
you know, that's one of thereasons why I wrote The Seven figure Freelancer.
I was getting a lot of questionsfrom people saying, not only how
can I become a freelancer, buthow can I become a successful freelancer?
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What are some of the commonalities,What are some of the pitfalls that people
need to avoid. And what Ifound was that the approach of the most
successful freelancers can vary, but atthe end of the day, they went
through a cycle of what I callcrawl, walk, run. Many of
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them did not literally come up withan idea on Monday and quit their jobs
on Tuesday. Although you hear aboutpeople who do do that, the reality
is that freelancing is a process.You were talking about all the different things
that go into freelancing. You haveto structure it properly. You need an
accountant, you need to set upyour business, You need to think about
(26:41):
your services and how you're pricing them. It can be really complicated unless you
start small, which is don't quityour day job. That's my first advice
suggestions. Absolutely absolutely, and ifyou have that stability, then night's weekends,
(27:03):
whenever you have some time, youcan start thinking about what you want
to do as a freelancer and startthat process. And once that takes hold
and everyone has a different level ofrisk tolerance, then you can actually step
out on your own. I recentlygave a ted X talk, and in
that talk I admitted that I washighly risk averse. I wasn't ready to
(27:27):
you know, jump right away.So I actually, you know, worked
as freelancing for two to three yearsbefore I left my full time job.
So everyone has to think about whatare they comfortable with, when are they
willing to make that leap or ifthey want to make that leap. And
(27:47):
I think that's probably the most importantadvice is that freelancing looks different for everyone,
So you have to do what you'recomfortable with, and you know,
ultimately do something or my model somethingin a way that works with your current
and future situation. All great,great advice, Michael, Michael, How
can folks get in touch with youdirectly? Obviously they could buy the book
(28:11):
Seven Figure Freelancing. I'm sure thatit is available, But if they want
to get in touch with if yougot a website, yeah, absolutely,
so folks can visit seven Figure Freelancingdot com. They can check out the
book on Amazon, and of courseI'm available on LinkedIn under Michael Fleischner.
Sounds great. Spell that for me. It's f L E I S C
(28:34):
h n E R. All right, you got to get that in in
there. Okay, my producer missd n here, So it's Michael Fleischner,
right, Okay, perfect, we'llget all those consonants pronounced. Michael,
thank you very much. I enjoyedthis conversation, and congratulations on figuring
it out. I'm still trying tofigure it out. Okay. Yeah,
there's always a room for improvement.I have no doubt about that. I
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believe that every day. Thank youso much, Mike. When we get
back, we're going to talk abouta situation that needs a lot of improvement,
and that is the situation of ratsin Boston. Rats are virtually everywhere,
and we're going to talk with doctorBobby Corgan. He's around. He's
a renowned rodent ologist. He draftedBoston's action plan how to get rid of
(29:18):
the rats. And it has nothingto do with hiring a pied piper.
Oh that we could. We'll beback on Nightside with doctor Bobby Corgan right
after this. Now back to DanRay live from the Window World night Side
Studios on WBZ News Radio. Well, Boston is a great city, but
we have a lot of problems,and one of them are rats. A
(29:41):
lot of rats. With me isdoctor Bobby Corgan. He's a renowned rodentologist,
and he drafted Boston's rat action plan, which I guess this. Everything
has an acronym, doctor, it'sBratt b our Yeah. Is that great?
(30:02):
Prap prap b r ap. Welcometo night side. How are you
good? Damn? How are youdoing doing great? Now? Look,
most kids when they grow up,they want to be a baseball player,
firefighter, policeman, something like that. But I don't assume people too many
kids grow up saying when I gethome, I want to become a rodentologist.
(30:22):
So how'd you become a rodentologist?I mean mistake. I was always
a nature ner, so as thekid and my brother is playing football,
I was chasing answer to that.We're having a doctor. We're having a
little problem with your audio. SoI'm going to have Rob jump on the
line here because there's a couple oflittle tricks that he will be able to
(30:44):
tell you, which is going toclean up that audio for us. And
I want people to hear everything thatyou have to say. My guest is
doctor Bobby Corgan. He is arodentologist, and he drafted Boston's action plan
to actually try to did the cityas best they can of rats. Uh,
let's see if we got him backhere. Let's see how you sound
(31:06):
now. So so you became arodentologist just because of what you were interested
in. I guess the way inwhich small insects and insects and animals you
know, move around, and andhow they populate and and and where where
they found. And I assume thenyou have professional degrees in this area.
(31:27):
Yeah. I went from uh,you know, just in college, I
switched over to studying mammal to anotherand ended up chasing rats because they're very
cool mammal, very secretive. AndI have to tell you, Dan,
the rats and paid every single billI've had ever since. Well that's there's
(31:49):
always a positive, is the yingand the yang and all of that.
Okay, So so what are wegoing to do? In Boston? There
was a you know, I well, how do you get rid of rats?
Because if you if you put outpoison in traps, you could you
could impact other animals. So Iguess you probably can't do that. What
(32:13):
can you give them birth control pills? Well, you know, if this
is a very ironic thing, youknow, the rats are like us.
They're mammals. They need food,they need regular food, and they need
a place to live. And youknow what we cause rats are pet so
human beings we tend to dismiss asjust being vermin that you put out some
(32:34):
poison like you mentioned, or youput out some traps and just kill them.
But the bottom line is it's ananimals and animal population. It has
to be managed with that more mind. You have to have science behind it.
But it's still simple. Rats needfood, No food, no rats.
And so the number one rule formanaging rats the world over and a
(32:55):
husband for two hundred years of publications. If you see you just need to
someone look in the mirror and ask, am I taking out my trash correctly?
And we should learn that in secondgrade. But walk around your own
block and you don't see how manypeople do not know how to take out
their trash. Oh, there's nono question, no question about that.
(33:16):
So one of the ways in whichyou can modify behavior of humans is for
the city to get aggressive and findpeople who who leave trash in barrels that
rats can have access to, thebarrels that don't have you know, covers
on them that they click on.I mean, is that part of your
(33:38):
plan to actually turn around and gointo the neighborhoods and let people know what
they have to do. And ifthey don't comply, have them start to
They ticket us for everything else.They ticket us for, you know,
for parking in the wrong place,for going through stop signs, for jaywalking.
Why not ticket people for this?No, you totally correct, you
know it should be one of Look, some ways, we found some things
(34:00):
wrong with the way you're doing yourtrash. Here's some helpful tips. We
hope you'll follow us where we're tryingto help you help us. Golob have
to come off. Some people reallydon't get it. And if you have
a neighbor that's not being good withthe trash that affects you, that will
bring in rets to your area aswell. So rats don't observe and obey
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fences and property lines. They cometo the area where the food is okay,
quick question, how far will itwill a rat travel? Either in
their lifetime or in a month?Meaning if if if let us say,
in Boston tomorrow, there was nofood available for rats, no garbage,
every trash bag was was closed upand was inside a container the rats could
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not get into. Where would therats go to? Cambridge and Somerville and
places where maybe other communities? Rightright, they are great disperses. You
know, they're from Mongolia and nowthey're roll over the world, so they
have no trouble being travel experts.They'll do what they have to. They
will keep moving until they find areasthat reward them. And on the way.
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You know, this animal, theydon't even need to do our trash
occasions. They'll do birds, they'lltake up earthworms and the ground really a
slug or snails. They'll do whateverit takes to get the protein. So
they're on the vores, totallynivores.Doctor. Let to have you back on
some night with a better phone connection. I'm going to have my producer get
(35:30):
in touch. The phone connection wastough tonight. But since you now are
part of Boston, haven't written thisreport, love to get you back on.
Take some phone calls from individuals andsee if we can spread the word,
you know, spread the gospel ofgetting rid of rats. I think
we all can agree. Thanks somuch. Yeah, you bet all right.
Take care to them. By doctorBobby cor Corgan, a renowned rodentologist.
(35:52):
We come back. We're going tostart off tonight talking about a resignation
today. No, not not JoeBiden. The resignation of the director's secret
service. My question is what tookher so long back on my side,
right after the night
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