July 23, 2024 • 39 mins
Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle has resigned from her position after growing backlash over the security at the PA Trump rally where there was an assassination attempt on Donald Trump’s life. President Biden acknowledged the resignation by making a statement saying, “Jill and I are grateful to Director Kim Cheatle for her decades of public service. She has selflessly dedicated and risked her life to protect our nation throughout her career in the United States Secret Service.”
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio!
Ask Alexa to play WBZ NewsRadio on #iHeartRadio!
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
(00:01):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray onw b Z, Boston's news radio.
Thank you, Al. We're talkingabout the resignation today of the Director of
the Secret Service. Apparently she metwith Donald Trump in Milwaukee and just had
a pleasant conversation, and then shewas on a conference call with a whole
(00:22):
bunch of US Senators from a roominside the Convention Center where the Republicans had
gathered, and that was what promptedthat hallway chase with Republican senators trying to
question her, and she had nointerest in talking to them in the hallway
of the convention Center, Nor doesshe have much interest in talking to the
(00:45):
members of Congress. The House Committeethat met with her yesterday. All was
was just canned answer, canned answers. This was Representative Andy Biggs Cutting number
nineteen. Robs. It just thecanned answers, canned answers that she reminded
me of the presidents of Harvard andMIT, the University of Pennsylvania who didn't
(01:11):
want to give honest answers. Hitif you would from me, Rob cut
nineteen. Your agency has a nofail mission, And on Saturday, July
thirteenth, yer agency spectacularly failed Thefailure resulted in the death of Corey Compretour
and suicients the two other rally attendees, David Dutch and James Copenhavier. Besides
the injuries to President Trump, itis unfathomable that a twenty year old on
(01:36):
the radar of secret service in locallaw enforcement before President Trump went on stage,
was able to climb onto the roofof a building with a rifle and
fire off multiple rounds before he wasneutralized. Was mister Crook's acting alone?
Again, I would have to referyou to the FBI's investigation. Was he
just a loan gun man? Iwould have to refer you to the FBI's
(02:00):
investigation from motive? Why would shenot say? To the best of my
knowledge, from what I am awareof at this point, there is little
or no evidence that there was anyconfederate involved with the shooter. But the
(02:22):
investigation continues, and if there iscredible information, obviously the FBI will will
work on that. I mean,why not give any answer as opposed to
this candy answer? Back to thephones we go. The only lines open
right now are six, one,seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty. Tina in Mousaka RhodeIsland, Tina, you were first this
(02:44):
hour nightside, Go right ahead,thank you? Yeah, yeah, Well
what the conversation that you were justhaving over the ear? What missus Cheatle
could have said? She could havesaid, well, it seemed to be
uh, it looked like he wasthe only alone gunman. But a lot
of times, what I noticed whenthey have these congressional hearings, unless I'm
(03:07):
wrong, a lot of these people, like I can remember when Christopher way
Ray was there before Congress and AlejandroMayorkis and a lot of other people who
are there, it seems like they'reafraid to give a yes or no answer
because maybe they'll be prosecuted. Butanother thing, I don't know. I
(03:28):
don't think there are fear. Ijust don't think they're in fear of prosecution.
It seems to me if someone asksyou a yes or no answer,
if they say to you, whattime is it right now? Or is
it I just look at the clockand it says it is eleven am.
Yes, you're understanding that it's elevenam? Or yea I understand. Yeah.
(03:49):
They can answer some questions. Ifthey ask over a question, I
want a yes or no answer towhat were you thinking, and where were
you the moment that you heard theshots had been fired? In the present?
Has can I finished my point?You didn't give me a chance amplify
your play? Go ahead? Okay, all right. So that's what it
(04:12):
seems like to me. A lotof times they're afraid, And it seems
like in this country, a lotof times when a professional or maybe a
person who has a very big responsibilitylike mister Cheeto, like missus Cheato,
when they do something wrong, theywant to fire you. Okay, we
(04:34):
want you to resign. We wantyou to resign. Is that going to
fix the problem? Is she aloneand only person responsible for what happened that
assassination attempt? Is that her responsibilityalone? Just because she's the head of
the Secret Service? Isn't the wholeSecret Service working together as a team when
(05:00):
that whole incident? Were they talkingto her via walkie talkie during that time?
Were they asking for her input?I don't know. I don't think
so. Maybe law enforcement and SecretService and everybody else concerned, we're talking
to her, but she's a head. To me, maybe I'm wrong,
but it seems like they wanted tomake her the skate go for the failure
(05:26):
of the Secret Service, and notonly the failure of the Secret Service,
but also the fact that this kidtwenty years old had this ar style rifle.
So it's a great big conglomerate.There's the issue of the fire robs,
the issue of law enforcement and SecretService and everybody else on the ground.
(05:50):
And she's the head. So theywant to make a spectacle of her
and make her resign because she's thescale. Go. That's how I see
it. So what do you think. Have you ever heard the phrase the
buck stops here? It was itwas first articulated. Yeah, yeah,
(06:10):
let me let me finish. Ilet you finish. Whoa tina, I
let you finish completely? Okay.All I want to say is she's the
head of it. We came,we came perilously close to an assassination,
a successful assassination. The work thatwas done in prepping that website, in
that that that site, that thatcampaign site was absolutely inadequate. As we
(06:35):
would say in Latin race ipse alquidof the results speaks for itself. Harry
Truman said, the buck stops here, and the buck on this stop with
her. Should there be other peoplewho either lose their jobs, resigned or
fired possibly, but she certainly isthe head of that agency. That agency
failed spectacularly. She did finally theright thing by resigning, in my opinion.
(07:00):
But I but, but you haveyour right to your opinion, and
you think that there's more to it, and let's see what happens. Okay,
Okay, Dan, thank you,Thank you, appreciate your call.
Right, have a great night.Back at Nightside right after this one line
at six months seven two, five, four, ten thirty one at six
month seven nine Now back to DanRay live from the Window World night Side
(07:23):
Studios on WBZ News Radio. Backto the cause, Tom in West Virginia,
Tom, appreciate your patience you've heldthrough the news. Thank you very
much. What's your take on allof this? Well, one, I'm
glad she resigned. I'm kind ofin an agreement with the previous caller that,
uh, you know that she's goingto be the fall guy. But
(07:46):
here's here's my first question. Youmentioned Iran. I just checked on my
computer. It was a week agoafter the Trump shooting. All of a
sudden, Iran now wants to assassinateTrump. And I find that very interesting
because what does that mean? Isthere going to be an explosion or a
(08:07):
Trump rally? Well, I mightbe, I might be wrong on this,
tom but I thought that the reportsthat there was an Iranian effort to
get Trump no one ever described.Are we talking about people here on the
ground or are they put in motion? Iran has done some of that in
Europe. But I actually thought thatthat predated the rally because one of the
(08:31):
issues was the security should have beenincreased if that rumor had any basis in
both. I only heard about thatafter the Trump shooting, and it was
sometime early last week. I justI googled it and I hit on the
news and it's showing six days theseven days ago. And I find that
(08:56):
very you know, I'm very suspectvicious of what is reported and to me,
what's going to happen as a bomb? I'm going to go off,
but I want to go on tothe next point. That last week I
called the Secret Service field office inWashington, DC and spoke to a very
nice man who worked there, andI said, correct me if I'm wrong,
sir, But don't the Secret Serviceagents all wear bluetooth earbuds where they
(09:22):
can communicate with one another stuff thatyou know, we in the private sector
cannot afford stuff that doesn't fail.He goes, yes, we do,
all right, So you know,I just find it very coincidental that at
the point of when people were screaming, law and local law enforcement was informed.
(09:46):
I would think they would all beon the same page that hey,
if there's something we need to know, and why wasn't the presidents off stage?
And that's how we find out throughan independent investigation. Don't know a
lot of us are armchair quarterbacks,including me. And the other thing that
(10:07):
I would like to offer is whyis it my archists and Chris Ray were
also subpoena to testify before Congress andthey did not show up. And all
I hear from CNN and MSNBC thatJoe Biden's administration is the most transparent there
is. Well, if you're transparent, you get up in front of a
(10:30):
hearing and you don't and if you'reasked yes or no questions, you give
them. And what yesterday happened withthat woman of where she just gave generalities
just raises my suspicion even more.And is it true that there were only
three circuits secret Service agents? Thereother people that represented federal law enforcement were
(10:54):
from Homeland Security? Am I correcton that? Yes or no? I
do not know? Neither do I. But it's been reported. It's unsubstantiated,
and like I say, that's meas a talk radio caller, being
an armchair quarterback. I want tofind that out. But this is why
we have to have going through,you know, with a life calmb to
(11:20):
get to the bottom of this,to see where the failures were. And
if people were negligent on their jobs, they should be fired, they should
be terminated. And I believe Icalled in last week and said every single
Secret Service agent and every law enforcementagent there should have to take a lie
detector test. I certainly believe that. By the way I am looking at,
(11:43):
I am looking at a CNN storyon Tuesday, July sixteenth, Okay,
Secret Service ramps up security after intelof Iran plot to assassinate Trump.
No known connection to shooting. Firstsentence US he has obtained intelligence from a
human source in recent weeks on aplot by Iran to try to assassinate Donald
(12:07):
trumpet development that led the Secret Serviceincreasing security around the former president. Multiple
people briefed on the matter told CNNthere's no indication that Thomas Matthew Crooks,
that would be assassin who attempted tokill the former president on Saturday, was
connected to the plot. Sources said. However, it sounds to me like
we knew weeks according to CNN,assuming they're accurate, and I think on
(12:31):
a news story like this they probablyare accurate, we knew weeks ago before
the assassination that there was okay,okay, so okay, So that being
we also know what Iran has donein Western Europe planting bombs at public venues.
(12:52):
You know, and correct me ifI'm wrong. Though, Jill Biden
had more Secret Service agents at herprivate fundraiser function than Donald Trump had.
I have heard. I have heardreports of that, Tom, but I
have not seen the substantiation of thosereports. I haven't seen a report that
(13:15):
said she had fifteen and Trump hadtwelve or anything like that. And obviously
he should have had more at alarger event, and particularly a public event.
You can control a private fundraiser ina home or which which which is
very common. So yeah, thoseare all good points. But that's part
(13:35):
of the investigation, and we haveto treat this. We want a Warrant
Commission report that will be transparent,will be will be clear, will be
understandable, and will be quick.We can't wait two years to get a
report on this. We need itwithin a month. No, And just
for the record, I'm one ofthose people that used to think the FBI
(13:58):
was a stalwart of honesty and integrity. And I used to always believe that
if I ever got pulled over goingdown in Virginia or something like that and
some cop didn't like that I wasfrom Massachusetts, or some racist cop didn't
like I had an African American wifeat the time that planted drugs on me.
(14:20):
And I have a sweety clean record, but I would always think that,
you know something, the FBI wouldbe there that I would pass a
lie detector test and they would bethe one guys to put away a dirty
cop. And I no longer believethat, and I hate to feel that
way, but you know something,They've got egg on their face, and
it's the leadership. It's not thefield people, it's the leadership, and
(14:43):
always the leadership. Let me askyou this, Okay, you saw call
me, you saw McCabe, Yousaw some of the FBI agents who were
looking to the lovebirds and all ofthat. Okay, do you remember the
reporting that I did on the FBIoffice here in Boston in ninth from nineteen
ninety three to two thousand and sevendealing with the Savati Lamoni case. Yes.
(15:05):
Absolutely. I lost my faith inthe FBI, the leadership of the
FBI many years ago, my friend. And you know what, all of
the federal agencies really need a goodanimal. I rest my case. Take
care, Dan, Thank you,Tom, appreciate your call. Let me
go next to We'll get one morein here before the break at the bottom
(15:28):
of the hour. Bill is inNatick. Bill, you were next on
nightside. Welcome, get you inhere before the news. Go right ahead.
Bill. Thanks. There's so muchcontroversy on this, it's unbelievable.
As far as the facts, thefact there President was speaking. Guy got
(15:48):
up in the roof that never shouldhave got up in the roof. The
West of Terrors was a twenty yearold kid who was given a gun by
his father. He didn't buy it, his father bought it, and he
shot at the President and other people. And he's a lousy shot. Now,
he never should have got up inthe room. And I don't know
if he's a lousy shot, buthe came pretty damn close. Yeah,
(16:11):
I know, But I mean,if he was good, he'd kill him.
Okay. The cycler for the SecretService was a proximately three to four
hundred yards away, and he tookthe kid out in about five seconds,
you know, one bullet. Butthe point is, now, many things
I want to say, but Ican't. I would agree with you he
(16:33):
was a lousy shot in that someof his shots hit innocent people in the
crowd. But in terms of thefirst shot, I think the first shot
the shot that if President Trump hadturned his head into a different direction,
we wouldn't be talking about an attemptedassassination. I agreed he got lucky.
Yeah, but he wasn't trained,he wasn't military, he wasn't CIA,
(16:56):
he wasn't foreign. So I mean, it's amazing the kids couldn't be on
the route. First of all,that's the first thing. Never should have
happened. So what it did.Okay, it's like nine to eleven couldn't
have happened, but it did.But the point other point I'd like to
make is I thought I have twocousins on the Secret Service for thirty years.
(17:18):
The one of them went to afuneral one time and someone there from
the family said, you know,would you do me favored you take a
gun out and put it in thecar. He said, no, I'm
on twenty four hours a day.Okay, that was twenty five years ago.
Okay. Now, the woman fromthe Secret Service, she knew she
(17:41):
was gonna put in her resignation today. But he had to face those people
because there was a public outcry andthey had to have a whipping person.
If those congressmen really really wanted thetrue they would have had a classified meeting
(18:03):
and they would have been given theinformation that the FBI currently has, and
that's all they would be given,and they would have been told in ten
days, fifteen days, we're goingto give you more facts. But think
of the facts we have right now. So wait, So what you're now
criticizing Congress for subpoenaing her. Correct. No, I think it's fine.
(18:26):
But what I'm saying is ahead ofthat, they should have been given classified
information that they are allowed to have. Depending on their ranks and rating,
they may have had classified information.Bill, I'm sorry, they may have
had classified information. Well, youknow, they asked her questions repeatedly and
repeatedly and repeatedly. And I'm nottrying to well, I am technically trying
(18:51):
to defend her. But he answeredquestions that she could that were in the
scope of her Yeah, I willrespectfully disagree with you. I thought her
performance was disgraceful. I really did. Okay, she could be she should
quit, But she has twenty nineyears of real service, Okay. And
(19:14):
there's too many people out here thatare lightweights. They want to accuse people
of other things, and they can'teven they can't even drive state and they
can't even get off the phone.So I think she should retire. Excuse
me, quit. But here's thedifference. Here's different. Here's the difference.
Okay, here's the difference. Sheworked as a secret service agent for
(19:36):
a couple of decades. Okay,what twenty nine years. I don't think
it was twenty nine years to bethat's what you said. Well, three,
let me tell you she graduated fromcollege in nineteen ninety four. This
is twenty twenty four. Okay.She worked at least three years for Pepsicola
(19:56):
so SO three from thirty to twentyseven. Whatever the number of years is
it was substantial. But she workedas an agent. She was on then
vice president's protective detail. Okay,she was appointed. That's a political appointee.
She failed in her position. Youknow, there's a lot of guys
(20:17):
who are playing in major league sportsokay, baseball, football, hockey,
but they don't have the qualifications orthe organizational instincts to become the commissioner of
Major League Baseball or the commissioner ofthe NFL. So I so twenty two
years or twenty five years as aline agent does not qualify to become the
director in my opinion, I agree, possibly, but I don't know enough
(20:42):
about a background. Yep. Okay, a lot of people from Washington,
whether they worked for Republicans or Democrats, that are not qualified to be there.
I agree with you. I agreewith you. It's a lot of
people go to Washington and they stayat the party too long. Bill.
I hate to do this, butyou haven't stayed at the party too long.
But I wanted to get you inbefore the news. You made great
(21:02):
points. I appreciate it. Gotto keep going. Thank you. Bill.
Back on nightside this to the News, I got to get out of
the way. Here comes the newsback right after that, It's Boston's news
Radio. Let's go see Jim inMichigan. Hey Jim in Michigan. Welcome,
(21:23):
How are you sir? Yeah,I'm doing just fine. This is
Tim and Michigan. Tim. Okay, Tim, I know when I saw
Jim, I said, oh Igot a jam. It's not a problem,
just not a problem problem in regardsto, you know, the so
called assassination tempt on mister Trump.Does it take much of a nudge to
(21:47):
push this into another realm whereby thewilling stepping down of security by the Secret
Service would make possibly more likely somethingvery untoward occurring, namely the killing of
(22:10):
mister Trump, that they intentionally steppeddown security to make it more likely that
something would befall mister Trump. Well, I hate to think, I hate
to think that is true. Butthat is what the investigation should focus on.
(22:30):
And again it comes back to thewhat did they know and when did
they know it? Who made thedecisions and why were they made? It's
all okay, who decided how bigthe perimeter would be? Why wasn't the
perimeterive bigger? Okay? Why wasn'tthat roof covered? Who made that decision.
Someone had to say, no,we don't need to cover that roof.
I think right now, if youknow I've heard it, I've heard
(22:52):
other stories that they were local authoritieswho were supposedly posted on the roof.
And then I heard I heard thenow retired head of the Secret Service,
Kimberly Steel a cheetle. This iswhat she said yesterday. When do you
(23:22):
listen to this? And I wantto see if you have the same response
to this that I do. Thisis cut twenty one, Rob, Cut
twenty one. One of the thingsthat you said, I believe in an
interview that there wasn't an agent onthe roof because it was a slope roof.
Is that normal? And do youfear that that immediately creates an opportunity
for future would be assassin's to lookfor a slanted roof. This is a
(23:44):
huge question that every American has.Why I wasn't a Secret Service agent on
the roof? And there have beenreports that agents were supposed to be on
the roof but it was hot thatday and they didn't want to be on
the roof. Can you answer anyof those questions? Director? So I
appreciate you asking me that question.Chair, and I should have been more
clear in my answer when I spokeabout where we place personnel in that interview.
(24:06):
What I can tell you is thatthere was a plan in place to
provide overwatch, and we are stilllooking into responsibilities and who was going to
provide overwatch. But the Secret Servicein general, not speaking specifically to this
incident, when we are providing overwatch, whether that be through counter snipers or
other technology, prefer to have sterilerooftops. I don't know, by the
(24:30):
way, that was the chairman ofthe committee, Comer of Tennessee. Why
would you want a stereo rooftop.The rooftop wasn't sterile. In fact,
that's where the assass the potential assassinwas. Why do you want a stereo
rooftop? I prefer to have aSecret Service agent or someone who I can
trust on that roof to make surenobody gets up on the roof. What
(24:51):
a stupid answer. This has allshades of Manchurian candidates dripping all over it.
Secondarily, you know, for thelast two years, we've been told
repeatedly on and on that President Bidenis fully within his capabilities to run the
(25:14):
president, to be the leader ofthe executive branch. Now it appears that
he really is not capable of fulfillinghis duties as the leader of the executive
branch. Now the drum beat isbeing now revved up that, oh,
Kamala Harris is absolutely fully capable ofbeing president. At what point do we
(25:38):
suspend, you know, our willingbelief in that. I just don't,
I don't get it. For twoyears, President Biden's aokage, fully on
the job. Now he's not.And now we're being told that Kamala Harris,
Oh yeah, she's on the job. She's ready to go, and
she has twenty people up, uh, you know, at an event.
(26:03):
Well, here's the here's what Maybethat's another card that could be played here.
What happens if, let's say,by October first, Donald Trump is
leaving her in the polls, andand all of a sudden, Joe Biden
says that he's decided to resign becausehe's concerned about getting COVID or whatever that
(26:23):
one. No, no, no, I'm asking you now think this through.
And all of a sudden, asof October first, it is no
longer Vice President Harris, it isPresident Harris. Don't she has the lowest
approval ratings of any vice presidential officeholder in history. But suggesting to you
him, is that one of thecards that could be played if you want
(26:45):
to think about it and you wantto think about people being devious. Joe
Biden says, you know, I'dlove to stick around, but my health
just doesn't permit it, and I'mgoing to hand it over to my vice
president. She now becomes president asof say October first, don't don't you
think there will be a little bitof a ground swell uh to support her.
(27:06):
She's she's now president. Let's let'sgive her a chance that could be.
I think there may be a grounda ground swell, such as like
burning fires in the major UH cornsof our cities where people are prost don't
go there with that, just I'mjust thinking about this has been there have
been so many surprises. Who wouldhave ever thought that Donald Trump would have
(27:30):
survived an assassination's bullet by you know, by the skin of his teeth or
the whatever. And then then eightdays later Joe Biden would call it up,
call it quitch. Who would haveever thought Joe Biden asked for that
debate. Remember he was the onethat challenged Trump to that debate, and
he said, come on, Donald, you know you said anywhere, anytime,
any place. Let's let's do CNN. And at the time, I'm
(27:52):
thinking, boy, that was prettyslick. Jake Tapper, Dana Bash,
He's going to be no, noaudience. Well all of the the demands
that that I think CNN put onthe debate, which I think made it
a pretty good debate. First ofall, Tappa and Bash were very fair,
and Trump looked a lot better thanBiden. Sometimes you get what you
(28:12):
wish for. Hey, Tim,I got to get one more in here
before the break. I let yougo, come on back more often.
Way. I enjoyed the conversation.Thank you, buddy, talk to you
soon. We're going to go nextto Laurie in Clinton, Massachusetts. Laurie,
how are you tonight? Good?How are you? I'm doing just
great. Welcome to night's side.I remember spending a lot of time in
(28:33):
Clinton, Massachusetts in March of nineteenseventy seven, when when that town hosted
Jimmy Carter. You probably weren't evenalive back then. No, I was.
I was twelve, I was inthe twelfth grade. I was twelve
I was in the Were you livingin Clinton at the time to remember all
the big Oh yeah, that wasa big event from Clinton. Huh that
was great, Yeah, that wasawesome. Yeah. So what's your thought
(28:56):
what you thought about the Secret Servicedirector was well, it's kind of expected
him or her to resign because ofwhat happened. Obviously someone has to take
the blame for it. But mypoint is a little bit different. I
(29:18):
I don't think this was a realassassination attempt. I think it was kind
of staged by him because it wasno yeah, by Trump. I kind
of do because when he took hishand off his ear, there was no
blood on it, There was noblood dripping down his ear, there was
no blood on his white shirt,there was no blood on his jacket,
there was no blood on his face. But after he came down, after
(29:41):
he went down and came up,there was suddenly a streak on his face,
you know. But that's where doyou think that came from? Well,
he put something on his ear,some kind of red group stuff that
was there, and that kind ofstayed up. It didn't it didn't drip
down like I've heard people say that. You heard you think it was ketchup
(30:02):
theatrical blood. Yeah, probably somethinglike that. So now let me ask
you something. The people who theone guy that died and the two that
are in very serious condition, werethose were those fake? Were they part
of it? Do you think ifthey even did die, maybe they just
(30:22):
carved him off and you know itwas all staged. I don't know what.
Yeah, So what you're saying isthat the fella, I think his
name was Corey Coomfort Torte, hemay have survived that although they carried him
off. Have they told his familyyet, do you think? Or No,
I don't know. I don't knowabout that. But so what do
you think Why did nobody Why didnobody run? Why was everybody in the
(30:47):
bleachers just stood with it? Allthey did was crouch down? Well why
did they most people? If theyIf so, maybe everybody in the bleachers
knew what was going on, andwhat they did was they said, look,
to make it a little more realistic. All of you kind of got
to react when you hear that thesewould be fully gunshots, yeah, and
(31:08):
crouched down. Yeah. So therewere a lot of people. Yeah,
so there were a lot of peoplein on this. In your opinion,
how many people do you think?Ten five, ten thousand? Yes,
No, probably the people on thebleachers, probably one hundred and fifty of
them. Maybe, I don't know, so you think that, what do
(31:30):
you thinks? I don't know.Yeah, they weren't Trump supporters. They
would have been professional actors because theylooked they did look really scared. They
they if they were actors, theywere pretty good. Yeah yeah, But
why didn't they running? Not oneperson? I didn't see anybody running away.
Most people scatter, they run forthe hill. I'm just I'm just
(31:53):
curious, And please understand. Whatdo you do for living? Are you
involved in any sort of like criminalanology or criminal investmental work? No?
No, I was a BA businessanalyst, a business analyst for Laurie.
But again, and you know you, you're probably not the only one that
(32:15):
believes this. As a matter offact, I had someone call my show
a few days ago who actually talkedabout theatrical blood. You mean somebody gets
shot on stage and the blood isnot really blood, it's theatrical blood.
But I just don't know if theguy who was killed, if his family
(32:35):
would have to be in on it. You know, what we should do
is probably check and see if thefamily's still living there in six months from
now, because maybe he's relocated andliving I don't know. It could be
living next to you in Clinton,Massachusetts and you wouldn't know it. Yeah.
Another thing is after his ear wasbandaged. Yeah, it wasn't swollen,
(32:57):
it wasn't black and blue, itwasn't red. It looked perfect.
You can see every rege in hisear. It looks just like the other
ear. And then they put alittle tab on it and again nothing there,
no redness, no anything. Idon't want to see the hole in
his ear. I want to seehis face in the whole, kind of
like when you're a doubting Thomas.Then from a biblical point of view,
(33:17):
all right, Laurie, interesting callyou first time? Call her? No,
third time, third time? Wellagain, I disagree with you,
but I wanted to hear what youhad to say, and a bitch of
some people are going to react towhat you had to say. Thanks,
Laurie, appreciate you call. Havea great night, okay, YouTube,
goodbye. We're going to take abreak. I don't know how to handle
(33:39):
that any differently. Get your reaction. Well we are back on night,
say the only line of six one, seven nine. Now back to Dan
ray My from the Window World nightSight Studios ONBZ News Radio. A lot
of interesting theories tonight, so youcan respond to that. We may go
(34:00):
into the third hour tonight with thisone. John in Boston, John,
welcome, Welcome back tonight, saidbring John up for me if you would
please, I got him here,Go ahead, John, Thank you.
I believe I don't think you're onthe same page. I think you were
a totally different category. She hadto be in science fiction. Dan uh
(34:20):
Now, I was just asking whatit seemed to me to be logical questions.
It's good news for the family theguy that got killed, and that
it was all fake though, becauseI assumed that in a few weeks they'll
reunite him with the family. Maybewell they'll wait till after the election.
Maybe she could talk to someone thefight department he worked at and find out
what the story is in Yeah,you know, I'll bet you yeah,
most of those guys probably. Idon't know that they would want to talk
(34:44):
with her, John, though,if you know what I'm saying, absolutely
they did. I believe, Uhmissus Jetle there said she didn't she mentioned
the proanatto. I don't think shementioned the distance. So the distance from
home play, family pocket deep centerfield. I saw no more Gocia par
hit a home run there one time. It's four and fifty feet. Basically,
(35:06):
it's the distance the shooter was.So if she said the perimeter was
not that distant, so was itwas the perimeter second base or was it
the pitcher's mom. I mean,this is ridiculous that I never saw a
five foot six woman protect Tom Bradyfrom being tackled, never mind a bullet,
yeah, or the protector. Andnow a five to six foot sixth
(35:28):
woman is protecting the potential leader ofthe of the next leader of the Free
Wilson. And then Jila sits therewith the smug silence, and we had
a dead firefighter. We got adead fire family man. And she's talking
about the slow proof. This isn'tdon't it's just embarrassing. Did just a
couple of quick things. I justwant to miss. I know you've got
to close. Uh. You knowthat kid had had a range finder drone,
(35:51):
an explosive rate device, explosives inhis car overseas accounts. I'm wondering
if someone from TikTok and China ora Facebook or who you know. There
has to be more to this,Dan, I'm really concerned about drones.
This thing and asy that a personcan look up right now, or they
can look it up. Drones flyinga deer, it picks up like a
one hundred pound deer in this dayand age. If this a'n uldu a
(36:14):
rally, I'm concerned about this kidcould have been three miles away flying a
drone, and they can program drones, they can have ten drones flying there.
I really think they should stop theoutdoor rallies because drones can fly a
mile high, they can be sofar away. Yes, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know whatinformation technically the Secret Service would have.
(36:36):
I just hope that they that theyunderstand that rallies have been Outdoor rallies
have been part of Trump's campaign.And you know, back in twenty twenty,
people were saying, gee, Trumpwas drawing fifty sixty seventy thousand people
at some of these rallies and Bidenwas in his basement. Now, if
let us say we go through acampaign and Harris doesn't draw big crowds,
(37:00):
maybe uh Trump will wanted to dooutdoor rallies to show the disparity. And
I just think that he should beable to run his campaign campaign the way
he wants it unless Secret Service cameto him and said, look, there
are now drones that can be twomiles away, which we have no way
of protecting you against, and theycan fire. I don't know what the
(37:21):
capacity of the drones are, tobe honest with you, John, and
I'm not doubting you because you knowmore about this stuff than I do.
But I think I've just looked itup, and you can. They fly
a lot. I've seen this guy'sflying. They flyly a long way.
You can look up. It's amazinga drone flying a deer looking up.
No, I know that, butwhat I'm saying. But what I'm saying
is they can close airspace. TheFAA has the right to close airspace.
(37:45):
Try to fly a drone up byLogan Airport, Okay, Or try to
fly a drone out at Reagan Airportin Washington. Airspace is closed. It's
as simple as that. You readthose theories. Do we have the capacity?
We can scramble jets and take downanything we want. So, but
the drones are so small they don'tthink they see it. They have they
have remote control jets to fly twoand are miles an hour their model jets
(38:06):
they can fly. So I don'tknow, I just it's just something I'm
thinking about. All right, fairenough, we'll see if maybe there are
some folks next hour who want topick up on that train of thought.
John is always go ahead. Youdid a great job with the FBI,
but I'll tell you was struck andPaige and cab me like you said,
and Muller investigation. I'll tell youthe faith in the system has gone.
(38:28):
There's no trust whatsoever, know whatsoeverat all. Yeah, well, we
were dealing with the FBI when whenLouis free was the head of the FBI,
he actually came in and apologized forwhat happened to Savadi and Lamoni,
and I give him credit for that, But then he was moved out.
And then there were other officials whoI dealt with in Washington and who I
(38:49):
saw testifying in front of Congress,and I was not impressed by them.
As a matter of fact, Iwas uh and they were they were appointees
who appeared in Republican administrations as well. As democratic administrations, a lot of
people who have survived within the powerstructure for a long time, and I
could tell stories and maybe I willsomeday. Okay, John, thanks to
(39:12):
have a good night, you too, buddy, talk to you soon.
Here comes the eleven. We're goingto stick with this. We were going
to talk about Kamala Harris. Wecan do that later this week. I'm
off tomorrow. I Gary Tangwere willbe in tomorrow night doing a family event.
But I will be back Thursday andFriday night here on Night Side,
and I will be back right afterthe eleven o'clock news. More importantly,
It's Night Side with Dan Ray onw b Z, Boston's news radio.
Thank you, Al. We're talkingabout the resignation today of the Director of
the Secret Service. Apparently she metwith Donald Trump in Milwaukee and just had
a pleasant conversation, and then shewas on a conference call with a whole
(00:22):
bunch of US Senators from a roominside the Convention Center where the Republicans had
gathered, and that was what promptedthat hallway chase with Republican senators trying to
question her, and she had nointerest in talking to them in the hallway
of the convention Center, Nor doesshe have much interest in talking to the
(00:45):
members of Congress. The House Committeethat met with her yesterday. All was
was just canned answer, canned answers. This was Representative Andy Biggs Cutting number
nineteen. Robs. It just thecanned answers, canned answers that she reminded
me of the presidents of Harvard andMIT, the University of Pennsylvania who didn't
(01:11):
want to give honest answers. Hitif you would from me, Rob cut
nineteen. Your agency has a nofail mission, And on Saturday, July
thirteenth, yer agency spectacularly failed Thefailure resulted in the death of Corey Compretour
and suicients the two other rally attendees, David Dutch and James Copenhavier. Besides
the injuries to President Trump, itis unfathomable that a twenty year old on
(01:36):
the radar of secret service in locallaw enforcement before President Trump went on stage,
was able to climb onto the roofof a building with a rifle and
fire off multiple rounds before he wasneutralized. Was mister Crook's acting alone?
Again, I would have to referyou to the FBI's investigation. Was he
just a loan gun man? Iwould have to refer you to the FBI's
(02:00):
investigation from motive? Why would shenot say? To the best of my
knowledge, from what I am awareof at this point, there is little
or no evidence that there was anyconfederate involved with the shooter. But the
(02:22):
investigation continues, and if there iscredible information, obviously the FBI will will
work on that. I mean,why not give any answer as opposed to
this candy answer? Back to thephones we go. The only lines open
right now are six, one,seven, nine, three, one,
ten thirty. Tina in Mousaka RhodeIsland, Tina, you were first this
(02:44):
hour nightside, Go right ahead,thank you? Yeah, yeah, Well
what the conversation that you were justhaving over the ear? What missus Cheatle
could have said? She could havesaid, well, it seemed to be
uh, it looked like he wasthe only alone gunman. But a lot
of times, what I noticed whenthey have these congressional hearings, unless I'm
(03:07):
wrong, a lot of these people, like I can remember when Christopher way
Ray was there before Congress and AlejandroMayorkis and a lot of other people who
are there, it seems like they'reafraid to give a yes or no answer
because maybe they'll be prosecuted. Butanother thing, I don't know. I
(03:28):
don't think there are fear. Ijust don't think they're in fear of prosecution.
It seems to me if someone asksyou a yes or no answer,
if they say to you, whattime is it right now? Or is
it I just look at the clockand it says it is eleven am.
Yes, you're understanding that it's elevenam? Or yea I understand. Yeah.
(03:49):
They can answer some questions. Ifthey ask over a question, I
want a yes or no answer towhat were you thinking, and where were
you the moment that you heard theshots had been fired? In the present?
Has can I finished my point?You didn't give me a chance amplify
your play? Go ahead? Okay, all right. So that's what it
(04:12):
seems like to me. A lotof times they're afraid, And it seems
like in this country, a lotof times when a professional or maybe a
person who has a very big responsibilitylike mister Cheeto, like missus Cheato,
when they do something wrong, theywant to fire you. Okay, we
(04:34):
want you to resign. We wantyou to resign. Is that going to
fix the problem? Is she aloneand only person responsible for what happened that
assassination attempt? Is that her responsibilityalone? Just because she's the head of
the Secret Service? Isn't the wholeSecret Service working together as a team when
(05:00):
that whole incident? Were they talkingto her via walkie talkie during that time?
Were they asking for her input?I don't know. I don't think
so. Maybe law enforcement and SecretService and everybody else concerned, we're talking
to her, but she's a head. To me, maybe I'm wrong,
but it seems like they wanted tomake her the skate go for the failure
(05:26):
of the Secret Service, and notonly the failure of the Secret Service,
but also the fact that this kidtwenty years old had this ar style rifle.
So it's a great big conglomerate.There's the issue of the fire robs,
the issue of law enforcement and SecretService and everybody else on the ground.
(05:50):
And she's the head. So theywant to make a spectacle of her
and make her resign because she's thescale. Go. That's how I see
it. So what do you think. Have you ever heard the phrase the
buck stops here? It was itwas first articulated. Yeah, yeah,
(06:10):
let me let me finish. Ilet you finish. Whoa tina, I
let you finish completely? Okay.All I want to say is she's the
head of it. We came,we came perilously close to an assassination,
a successful assassination. The work thatwas done in prepping that website, in
that that that site, that thatcampaign site was absolutely inadequate. As we
(06:35):
would say in Latin race ipse alquidof the results speaks for itself. Harry
Truman said, the buck stops here, and the buck on this stop with
her. Should there be other peoplewho either lose their jobs, resigned or
fired possibly, but she certainly isthe head of that agency. That agency
failed spectacularly. She did finally theright thing by resigning, in my opinion.
(07:00):
But I but, but you haveyour right to your opinion, and
you think that there's more to it, and let's see what happens. Okay,
Okay, Dan, thank you,Thank you, appreciate your call.
Right, have a great night.Back at Nightside right after this one line
at six months seven two, five, four, ten thirty one at six
month seven nine Now back to DanRay live from the Window World night Side
(07:23):
Studios on WBZ News Radio. Backto the cause, Tom in West Virginia,
Tom, appreciate your patience you've heldthrough the news. Thank you very
much. What's your take on allof this? Well, one, I'm
glad she resigned. I'm kind ofin an agreement with the previous caller that,
uh, you know that she's goingto be the fall guy. But
(07:46):
here's here's my first question. Youmentioned Iran. I just checked on my
computer. It was a week agoafter the Trump shooting. All of a
sudden, Iran now wants to assassinateTrump. And I find that very interesting
because what does that mean? Isthere going to be an explosion or a
(08:07):
Trump rally? Well, I mightbe, I might be wrong on this,
tom but I thought that the reportsthat there was an Iranian effort to
get Trump no one ever described.Are we talking about people here on the
ground or are they put in motion? Iran has done some of that in
Europe. But I actually thought thatthat predated the rally because one of the
(08:31):
issues was the security should have beenincreased if that rumor had any basis in
both. I only heard about thatafter the Trump shooting, and it was
sometime early last week. I justI googled it and I hit on the
news and it's showing six days theseven days ago. And I find that
(08:56):
very you know, I'm very suspectvicious of what is reported and to me,
what's going to happen as a bomb? I'm going to go off,
but I want to go on tothe next point. That last week I
called the Secret Service field office inWashington, DC and spoke to a very
nice man who worked there, andI said, correct me if I'm wrong,
sir, But don't the Secret Serviceagents all wear bluetooth earbuds where they
(09:22):
can communicate with one another stuff thatyou know, we in the private sector
cannot afford stuff that doesn't fail.He goes, yes, we do,
all right, So you know,I just find it very coincidental that at
the point of when people were screaming, law and local law enforcement was informed.
(09:46):
I would think they would all beon the same page that hey,
if there's something we need to know, and why wasn't the presidents off stage?
And that's how we find out throughan independent investigation. Don't know a
lot of us are armchair quarterbacks,including me. And the other thing that
(10:07):
I would like to offer is whyis it my archists and Chris Ray were
also subpoena to testify before Congress andthey did not show up. And all
I hear from CNN and MSNBC thatJoe Biden's administration is the most transparent there
is. Well, if you're transparent, you get up in front of a
(10:30):
hearing and you don't and if you'reasked yes or no questions, you give
them. And what yesterday happened withthat woman of where she just gave generalities
just raises my suspicion even more.And is it true that there were only
three circuits secret Service agents? Thereother people that represented federal law enforcement were
(10:54):
from Homeland Security? Am I correcton that? Yes or no? I
do not know? Neither do I. But it's been reported. It's unsubstantiated,
and like I say, that's meas a talk radio caller, being
an armchair quarterback. I want tofind that out. But this is why
we have to have going through,you know, with a life calmb to
(11:20):
get to the bottom of this,to see where the failures were. And
if people were negligent on their jobs, they should be fired, they should
be terminated. And I believe Icalled in last week and said every single
Secret Service agent and every law enforcementagent there should have to take a lie
detector test. I certainly believe that. By the way I am looking at,
(11:43):
I am looking at a CNN storyon Tuesday, July sixteenth, Okay,
Secret Service ramps up security after intelof Iran plot to assassinate Trump.
No known connection to shooting. Firstsentence US he has obtained intelligence from a
human source in recent weeks on aplot by Iran to try to assassinate Donald
(12:07):
trumpet development that led the Secret Serviceincreasing security around the former president. Multiple
people briefed on the matter told CNNthere's no indication that Thomas Matthew Crooks,
that would be assassin who attempted tokill the former president on Saturday, was
connected to the plot. Sources said. However, it sounds to me like
we knew weeks according to CNN,assuming they're accurate, and I think on
(12:31):
a news story like this they probablyare accurate, we knew weeks ago before
the assassination that there was okay,okay, so okay, So that being
we also know what Iran has donein Western Europe planting bombs at public venues.
(12:52):
You know, and correct me ifI'm wrong. Though, Jill Biden
had more Secret Service agents at herprivate fundraiser function than Donald Trump had.
I have heard. I have heardreports of that, Tom, but I
have not seen the substantiation of thosereports. I haven't seen a report that
(13:15):
said she had fifteen and Trump hadtwelve or anything like that. And obviously
he should have had more at alarger event, and particularly a public event.
You can control a private fundraiser ina home or which which which is
very common. So yeah, thoseare all good points. But that's part
(13:35):
of the investigation, and we haveto treat this. We want a Warrant
Commission report that will be transparent,will be will be clear, will be
understandable, and will be quick.We can't wait two years to get a
report on this. We need itwithin a month. No, And just
for the record, I'm one ofthose people that used to think the FBI
(13:58):
was a stalwart of honesty and integrity. And I used to always believe that
if I ever got pulled over goingdown in Virginia or something like that and
some cop didn't like that I wasfrom Massachusetts, or some racist cop didn't
like I had an African American wifeat the time that planted drugs on me.
(14:20):
And I have a sweety clean record, but I would always think that,
you know something, the FBI wouldbe there that I would pass a
lie detector test and they would bethe one guys to put away a dirty
cop. And I no longer believethat, and I hate to feel that
way, but you know something,They've got egg on their face, and
it's the leadership. It's not thefield people, it's the leadership, and
(14:43):
always the leadership. Let me askyou this, Okay, you saw call
me, you saw McCabe, Yousaw some of the FBI agents who were
looking to the lovebirds and all ofthat. Okay, do you remember the
reporting that I did on the FBIoffice here in Boston in ninth from nineteen
ninety three to two thousand and sevendealing with the Savati Lamoni case. Yes.
(15:05):
Absolutely. I lost my faith inthe FBI, the leadership of the
FBI many years ago, my friend. And you know what, all of
the federal agencies really need a goodanimal. I rest my case. Take
care, Dan, Thank you,Tom, appreciate your call. Let me
go next to We'll get one morein here before the break at the bottom
(15:28):
of the hour. Bill is inNatick. Bill, you were next on
nightside. Welcome, get you inhere before the news. Go right ahead.
Bill. Thanks. There's so muchcontroversy on this, it's unbelievable.
As far as the facts, thefact there President was speaking. Guy got
(15:48):
up in the roof that never shouldhave got up in the roof. The
West of Terrors was a twenty yearold kid who was given a gun by
his father. He didn't buy it, his father bought it, and he
shot at the President and other people. And he's a lousy shot. Now,
he never should have got up inthe room. And I don't know
if he's a lousy shot, buthe came pretty damn close. Yeah,
(16:11):
I know, But I mean,if he was good, he'd kill him.
Okay. The cycler for the SecretService was a proximately three to four
hundred yards away, and he tookthe kid out in about five seconds,
you know, one bullet. Butthe point is, now, many things
I want to say, but Ican't. I would agree with you he
(16:33):
was a lousy shot in that someof his shots hit innocent people in the
crowd. But in terms of thefirst shot, I think the first shot
the shot that if President Trump hadturned his head into a different direction,
we wouldn't be talking about an attemptedassassination. I agreed he got lucky.
Yeah, but he wasn't trained,he wasn't military, he wasn't CIA,
(16:56):
he wasn't foreign. So I mean, it's amazing the kids couldn't be on
the route. First of all,that's the first thing. Never should have
happened. So what it did.Okay, it's like nine to eleven couldn't
have happened, but it did.But the point other point I'd like to
make is I thought I have twocousins on the Secret Service for thirty years.
(17:18):
The one of them went to afuneral one time and someone there from
the family said, you know,would you do me favored you take a
gun out and put it in thecar. He said, no, I'm
on twenty four hours a day.Okay, that was twenty five years ago.
Okay. Now, the woman fromthe Secret Service, she knew she
(17:41):
was gonna put in her resignation today. But he had to face those people
because there was a public outcry andthey had to have a whipping person.
If those congressmen really really wanted thetrue they would have had a classified meeting
(18:03):
and they would have been given theinformation that the FBI currently has, and
that's all they would be given,and they would have been told in ten
days, fifteen days, we're goingto give you more facts. But think
of the facts we have right now. So wait, So what you're now
criticizing Congress for subpoenaing her. Correct. No, I think it's fine.
(18:26):
But what I'm saying is ahead ofthat, they should have been given classified
information that they are allowed to have. Depending on their ranks and rating,
they may have had classified information.Bill, I'm sorry, they may have
had classified information. Well, youknow, they asked her questions repeatedly and
repeatedly and repeatedly. And I'm nottrying to well, I am technically trying
(18:51):
to defend her. But he answeredquestions that she could that were in the
scope of her Yeah, I willrespectfully disagree with you. I thought her
performance was disgraceful. I really did. Okay, she could be she should
quit, But she has twenty nineyears of real service, Okay. And
(19:14):
there's too many people out here thatare lightweights. They want to accuse people
of other things, and they can'teven they can't even drive state and they
can't even get off the phone.So I think she should retire. Excuse
me, quit. But here's thedifference. Here's different. Here's the difference.
Okay, here's the difference. Sheworked as a secret service agent for
(19:36):
a couple of decades. Okay,what twenty nine years. I don't think
it was twenty nine years to bethat's what you said. Well, three,
let me tell you she graduated fromcollege in nineteen ninety four. This
is twenty twenty four. Okay.She worked at least three years for Pepsicola
(19:56):
so SO three from thirty to twentyseven. Whatever the number of years is
it was substantial. But she workedas an agent. She was on then
vice president's protective detail. Okay,she was appointed. That's a political appointee.
She failed in her position. Youknow, there's a lot of guys
(20:17):
who are playing in major league sportsokay, baseball, football, hockey,
but they don't have the qualifications orthe organizational instincts to become the commissioner of
Major League Baseball or the commissioner ofthe NFL. So I so twenty two
years or twenty five years as aline agent does not qualify to become the
director in my opinion, I agree, possibly, but I don't know enough
(20:42):
about a background. Yep. Okay, a lot of people from Washington,
whether they worked for Republicans or Democrats, that are not qualified to be there.
I agree with you. I agreewith you. It's a lot of
people go to Washington and they stayat the party too long. Bill.
I hate to do this, butyou haven't stayed at the party too long.
But I wanted to get you inbefore the news. You made great
(21:02):
points. I appreciate it. Gotto keep going. Thank you. Bill.
Back on nightside this to the News, I got to get out of
the way. Here comes the newsback right after that, It's Boston's news
Radio. Let's go see Jim inMichigan. Hey Jim in Michigan. Welcome,
(21:23):
How are you sir? Yeah,I'm doing just fine. This is
Tim and Michigan. Tim. Okay, Tim, I know when I saw
Jim, I said, oh Igot a jam. It's not a problem,
just not a problem problem in regardsto, you know, the so
called assassination tempt on mister Trump.Does it take much of a nudge to
(21:47):
push this into another realm whereby thewilling stepping down of security by the Secret
Service would make possibly more likely somethingvery untoward occurring, namely the killing of
(22:10):
mister Trump, that they intentionally steppeddown security to make it more likely that
something would befall mister Trump. Well, I hate to think, I hate
to think that is true. Butthat is what the investigation should focus on.
(22:30):
And again it comes back to thewhat did they know and when did
they know it? Who made thedecisions and why were they made? It's
all okay, who decided how bigthe perimeter would be? Why wasn't the
perimeterive bigger? Okay? Why wasn'tthat roof covered? Who made that decision.
Someone had to say, no,we don't need to cover that roof.
I think right now, if youknow I've heard it, I've heard
(22:52):
other stories that they were local authoritieswho were supposedly posted on the roof.
And then I heard I heard thenow retired head of the Secret Service,
Kimberly Steel a cheetle. This iswhat she said yesterday. When do you
(23:22):
listen to this? And I wantto see if you have the same response
to this that I do. Thisis cut twenty one, Rob, Cut
twenty one. One of the thingsthat you said, I believe in an
interview that there wasn't an agent onthe roof because it was a slope roof.
Is that normal? And do youfear that that immediately creates an opportunity
for future would be assassin's to lookfor a slanted roof. This is a
(23:44):
huge question that every American has.Why I wasn't a Secret Service agent on
the roof? And there have beenreports that agents were supposed to be on
the roof but it was hot thatday and they didn't want to be on
the roof. Can you answer anyof those questions? Director? So I
appreciate you asking me that question.Chair, and I should have been more
clear in my answer when I spokeabout where we place personnel in that interview.
(24:06):
What I can tell you is thatthere was a plan in place to
provide overwatch, and we are stilllooking into responsibilities and who was going to
provide overwatch. But the Secret Servicein general, not speaking specifically to this
incident, when we are providing overwatch, whether that be through counter snipers or
other technology, prefer to have sterilerooftops. I don't know, by the
(24:30):
way, that was the chairman ofthe committee, Comer of Tennessee. Why
would you want a stereo rooftop.The rooftop wasn't sterile. In fact,
that's where the assass the potential assassinwas. Why do you want a stereo
rooftop? I prefer to have aSecret Service agent or someone who I can
trust on that roof to make surenobody gets up on the roof. What
(24:51):
a stupid answer. This has allshades of Manchurian candidates dripping all over it.
Secondarily, you know, for thelast two years, we've been told
repeatedly on and on that President Bidenis fully within his capabilities to run the
(25:14):
president, to be the leader ofthe executive branch. Now it appears that
he really is not capable of fulfillinghis duties as the leader of the executive
branch. Now the drum beat isbeing now revved up that, oh,
Kamala Harris is absolutely fully capable ofbeing president. At what point do we
(25:38):
suspend, you know, our willingbelief in that. I just don't,
I don't get it. For twoyears, President Biden's aokage, fully on
the job. Now he's not.And now we're being told that Kamala Harris,
Oh yeah, she's on the job. She's ready to go, and
she has twenty people up, uh, you know, at an event.
(26:03):
Well, here's the here's what Maybethat's another card that could be played here.
What happens if, let's say,by October first, Donald Trump is
leaving her in the polls, andand all of a sudden, Joe Biden
says that he's decided to resign becausehe's concerned about getting COVID or whatever that
(26:23):
one. No, no, no, I'm asking you now think this through.
And all of a sudden, asof October first, it is no
longer Vice President Harris, it isPresident Harris. Don't she has the lowest
approval ratings of any vice presidential officeholder in history. But suggesting to you
him, is that one of thecards that could be played if you want
(26:45):
to think about it and you wantto think about people being devious. Joe
Biden says, you know, I'dlove to stick around, but my health
just doesn't permit it, and I'mgoing to hand it over to my vice
president. She now becomes president asof say October first, don't don't you
think there will be a little bitof a ground swell uh to support her.
(27:06):
She's she's now president. Let's let'sgive her a chance that could be.
I think there may be a grounda ground swell, such as like
burning fires in the major UH cornsof our cities where people are prost don't
go there with that, just I'mjust thinking about this has been there have
been so many surprises. Who wouldhave ever thought that Donald Trump would have
(27:30):
survived an assassination's bullet by you know, by the skin of his teeth or
the whatever. And then then eightdays later Joe Biden would call it up,
call it quitch. Who would haveever thought Joe Biden asked for that
debate. Remember he was the onethat challenged Trump to that debate, and
he said, come on, Donald, you know you said anywhere, anytime,
any place. Let's let's do CNN. And at the time, I'm
(27:52):
thinking, boy, that was prettyslick. Jake Tapper, Dana Bash,
He's going to be no, noaudience. Well all of the the demands
that that I think CNN put onthe debate, which I think made it
a pretty good debate. First ofall, Tappa and Bash were very fair,
and Trump looked a lot better thanBiden. Sometimes you get what you
(28:12):
wish for. Hey, Tim,I got to get one more in here
before the break. I let yougo, come on back more often.
Way. I enjoyed the conversation.Thank you, buddy, talk to you
soon. We're going to go nextto Laurie in Clinton, Massachusetts. Laurie,
how are you tonight? Good?How are you? I'm doing just
great. Welcome to night's side.I remember spending a lot of time in
(28:33):
Clinton, Massachusetts in March of nineteenseventy seven, when when that town hosted
Jimmy Carter. You probably weren't evenalive back then. No, I was.
I was twelve, I was inthe twelfth grade. I was twelve
I was in the Were you livingin Clinton at the time to remember all
the big Oh yeah, that wasa big event from Clinton. Huh that
was great, Yeah, that wasawesome. Yeah. So what's your thought
(28:56):
what you thought about the Secret Servicedirector was well, it's kind of expected
him or her to resign because ofwhat happened. Obviously someone has to take
the blame for it. But mypoint is a little bit different. I
(29:18):
I don't think this was a realassassination attempt. I think it was kind
of staged by him because it wasno yeah, by Trump. I kind
of do because when he took hishand off his ear, there was no
blood on it, There was noblood dripping down his ear, there was
no blood on his white shirt,there was no blood on his jacket,
there was no blood on his face. But after he came down, after
(29:41):
he went down and came up,there was suddenly a streak on his face,
you know. But that's where doyou think that came from? Well,
he put something on his ear,some kind of red group stuff that
was there, and that kind ofstayed up. It didn't it didn't drip
down like I've heard people say that. You heard you think it was ketchup
(30:02):
theatrical blood. Yeah, probably somethinglike that. So now let me ask
you something. The people who theone guy that died and the two that
are in very serious condition, werethose were those fake? Were they part
of it? Do you think ifthey even did die, maybe they just
(30:22):
carved him off and you know itwas all staged. I don't know what.
Yeah, So what you're saying isthat the fella, I think his
name was Corey Coomfort Torte, hemay have survived that although they carried him
off. Have they told his familyyet, do you think? Or No,
I don't know. I don't knowabout that. But so what do
you think Why did nobody Why didnobody run? Why was everybody in the
(30:47):
bleachers just stood with it? Allthey did was crouch down? Well why
did they most people? If theyIf so, maybe everybody in the bleachers
knew what was going on, andwhat they did was they said, look,
to make it a little more realistic. All of you kind of got
to react when you hear that thesewould be fully gunshots, yeah, and
(31:08):
crouched down. Yeah. So therewere a lot of people. Yeah,
so there were a lot of peoplein on this. In your opinion,
how many people do you think?Ten five, ten thousand? Yes,
No, probably the people on thebleachers, probably one hundred and fifty of
them. Maybe, I don't know, so you think that, what do
(31:30):
you thinks? I don't know.Yeah, they weren't Trump supporters. They
would have been professional actors because theylooked they did look really scared. They
they if they were actors, theywere pretty good. Yeah yeah, But
why didn't they running? Not oneperson? I didn't see anybody running away.
Most people scatter, they run forthe hill. I'm just I'm just
(31:53):
curious, And please understand. Whatdo you do for living? Are you
involved in any sort of like criminalanology or criminal investmental work? No?
No, I was a BA businessanalyst, a business analyst for Laurie.
But again, and you know you, you're probably not the only one that
(32:15):
believes this. As a matter offact, I had someone call my show
a few days ago who actually talkedabout theatrical blood. You mean somebody gets
shot on stage and the blood isnot really blood, it's theatrical blood.
But I just don't know if theguy who was killed, if his family
(32:35):
would have to be in on it. You know, what we should do
is probably check and see if thefamily's still living there in six months from
now, because maybe he's relocated andliving I don't know. It could be
living next to you in Clinton,Massachusetts and you wouldn't know it. Yeah.
Another thing is after his ear wasbandaged. Yeah, it wasn't swollen,
(32:57):
it wasn't black and blue, itwasn't red. It looked perfect.
You can see every rege in hisear. It looks just like the other
ear. And then they put alittle tab on it and again nothing there,
no redness, no anything. Idon't want to see the hole in
his ear. I want to seehis face in the whole, kind of
like when you're a doubting Thomas.Then from a biblical point of view,
(33:17):
all right, Laurie, interesting callyou first time? Call her? No,
third time, third time? Wellagain, I disagree with you,
but I wanted to hear what youhad to say, and a bitch of
some people are going to react towhat you had to say. Thanks,
Laurie, appreciate you call. Havea great night, okay, YouTube,
goodbye. We're going to take abreak. I don't know how to handle
(33:39):
that any differently. Get your reaction. Well we are back on night,
say the only line of six one, seven nine. Now back to Dan
ray My from the Window World nightSight Studios ONBZ News Radio. A lot
of interesting theories tonight, so youcan respond to that. We may go
(34:00):
into the third hour tonight with thisone. John in Boston, John,
welcome, Welcome back tonight, saidbring John up for me if you would
please, I got him here,Go ahead, John, Thank you.
I believe I don't think you're onthe same page. I think you were
a totally different category. She hadto be in science fiction. Dan uh
(34:20):
Now, I was just asking whatit seemed to me to be logical questions.
It's good news for the family theguy that got killed, and that
it was all fake though, becauseI assumed that in a few weeks they'll
reunite him with the family. Maybewell they'll wait till after the election.
Maybe she could talk to someone thefight department he worked at and find out
what the story is in Yeah,you know, I'll bet you yeah,
most of those guys probably. Idon't know that they would want to talk
(34:44):
with her, John, though,if you know what I'm saying, absolutely
they did. I believe, Uhmissus Jetle there said she didn't she mentioned
the proanatto. I don't think shementioned the distance. So the distance from
home play, family pocket deep centerfield. I saw no more Gocia par
hit a home run there one time. It's four and fifty feet. Basically,
(35:06):
it's the distance the shooter was.So if she said the perimeter was
not that distant, so was itwas the perimeter second base or was it
the pitcher's mom. I mean,this is ridiculous that I never saw a
five foot six woman protect Tom Bradyfrom being tackled, never mind a bullet,
yeah, or the protector. Andnow a five to six foot sixth
(35:28):
woman is protecting the potential leader ofthe of the next leader of the Free
Wilson. And then Jila sits therewith the smug silence, and we had
a dead firefighter. We got adead fire family man. And she's talking
about the slow proof. This isn'tdon't it's just embarrassing. Did just a
couple of quick things. I justwant to miss. I know you've got
to close. Uh. You knowthat kid had had a range finder drone,
(35:51):
an explosive rate device, explosives inhis car overseas accounts. I'm wondering
if someone from TikTok and China ora Facebook or who you know. There
has to be more to this,Dan, I'm really concerned about drones.
This thing and asy that a personcan look up right now, or they
can look it up. Drones flyinga deer, it picks up like a
one hundred pound deer in this dayand age. If this a'n uldu a
(36:14):
rally, I'm concerned about this kidcould have been three miles away flying a
drone, and they can program drones, they can have ten drones flying there.
I really think they should stop theoutdoor rallies because drones can fly a
mile high, they can be sofar away. Yes, I don't know.
I mean, I don't know whatinformation technically the Secret Service would have.
(36:36):
I just hope that they that theyunderstand that rallies have been Outdoor rallies
have been part of Trump's campaign.And you know, back in twenty twenty,
people were saying, gee, Trumpwas drawing fifty sixty seventy thousand people
at some of these rallies and Bidenwas in his basement. Now, if
let us say we go through acampaign and Harris doesn't draw big crowds,
(37:00):
maybe uh Trump will wanted to dooutdoor rallies to show the disparity. And
I just think that he should beable to run his campaign campaign the way
he wants it unless Secret Service cameto him and said, look, there
are now drones that can be twomiles away, which we have no way
of protecting you against, and theycan fire. I don't know what the
(37:21):
capacity of the drones are, tobe honest with you, John, and
I'm not doubting you because you knowmore about this stuff than I do.
But I think I've just looked itup, and you can. They fly
a lot. I've seen this guy'sflying. They flyly a long way.
You can look up. It's amazinga drone flying a deer looking up.
No, I know that, butwhat I'm saying. But what I'm saying
is they can close airspace. TheFAA has the right to close airspace.
(37:45):
Try to fly a drone up byLogan Airport, Okay, Or try to
fly a drone out at Reagan Airportin Washington. Airspace is closed. It's
as simple as that. You readthose theories. Do we have the capacity?
We can scramble jets and take downanything we want. So, but
the drones are so small they don'tthink they see it. They have they
have remote control jets to fly twoand are miles an hour their model jets
(38:06):
they can fly. So I don'tknow, I just it's just something I'm
thinking about. All right, fairenough, we'll see if maybe there are
some folks next hour who want topick up on that train of thought.
John is always go ahead. Youdid a great job with the FBI,
but I'll tell you was struck andPaige and cab me like you said,
and Muller investigation. I'll tell youthe faith in the system has gone.
(38:28):
There's no trust whatsoever, know whatsoeverat all. Yeah, well, we
were dealing with the FBI when whenLouis free was the head of the FBI,
he actually came in and apologized forwhat happened to Savadi and Lamoni,
and I give him credit for that, But then he was moved out.
And then there were other officials whoI dealt with in Washington and who I
(38:49):
saw testifying in front of Congress,and I was not impressed by them.
As a matter of fact, Iwas uh and they were they were appointees
who appeared in Republican administrations as well. As democratic administrations, a lot of
people who have survived within the powerstructure for a long time, and I
could tell stories and maybe I willsomeday. Okay, John, thanks to
(39:12):
have a good night, you too, buddy, talk to you soon.
Here comes the eleven. We're goingto stick with this. We were going
to talk about Kamala Harris. Wecan do that later this week. I'm
off tomorrow. I Gary Tangwere willbe in tomorrow night doing a family event.
But I will be back Thursday andFriday night here on Night Side,
and I will be back right afterthe eleven o'clock news. More importantly,
Popular Podcasts
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.
Therapy Gecko
An unlicensed lizard psychologist travels the universe talking to strangers about absolutely nothing. TO CALL THE GECKO: follow me on https://www.twitch.tv/lyleforever to get a notification for when I am taking calls. I am usually live Mondays, Wednesdays, and Fridays but lately a lot of other times too. I am a gecko.