July 29, 2024 • 36 mins
One of the big issues concerning citizens this election is the topic of immigration. As vice president, Kamala Harris was chosen to lead the White House effort to tackle the migration challenge at the U.S. southern border. Republicans have heavily criticized Harris’ record on immigration, whereas supporters like MA Sen. Elizabeth Warren, who has endorsed Harris as president, has defended the VP, saying “we need a pathway to citizenship” and “Kamala Harris will work with Congress and get that done." We discussed!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's nice Eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, it is Monday night, thanks very much, Dan Watkins,
and we are moving into the political season, and it's
it's it's been a very interesting few weeks. And I
eventually want to get around to Elizabeth Warren's comments yesterday
with Jake Tapper on ABC News on Sunday morning. But
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it's interesting. No matter where you turn, there's something to
talk about. So uh, let me try to spray the
field of fire here quickly and get your response to
any or all of this, and then we will get
to Elizabeth Warren's call for a pathway to citizenship for
people who are here as migrants, or to put it
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in other terms, here illegally. So. Donald Trump is down
at some summit in which, for some reason he takes
it upon himself to urge Christians to vote for him.
I'm assuming that some Christians will vote for him, and
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some Christians won't vote for him. But then he's telling
the Christians who voted for him that they won't have
to worry about it anymore, which of course gives I
think which is weird. I mean, I would assume that
he would want everyone to vote for him and I
think part of the problem with these both candidates in
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both parties right now is they're trying to fractionalize America.
And I think it's I think it's harmful. And now
I know some of my Trump supporters are going to
be upset about this, But this is the former president,
in his own words, cut one over the weekend, at
a turning point summit. Cut one.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You won't have to do it anymore four more years
here as you know what, it'll be fixed. It'll be fine.
You won't have to vote anymore. My beautiful Christians. I
love you Christians. I'm not Christian. I love you.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Get out. You gotta get out and vote.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
In four years, you don't have to vote again.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
We'll have it fixed. So good, You're not gonna have
to What does that mean? Also, he's not Christian. I
don't know. I haven't thought about it, and I don't
know what his religion is, if he has a religion
at all other than loyalty to the name, to the brand.
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Then we have the Democrats all using the same word.
And you wonder if someone had gotten the memo. So
here we have someone on MSNBC. This is a former
spokesperson for the White House. Jen Saki calling JD. Vance
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a weirdo. It's same used, same word used by a
couple of other Democratic governors. We'll get to that in
a second. This is Jen Psaki. Listen to the word weirdo.
Cut five.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Kamin Harrison. So many ways, might just be the right
candidate at the right time, the right candidate for this century.
By the way, she might be the right candidate to
tell the country that actually we don't have to go back,
to tell the country that actually that wasn't so great
for lots of Americans, and that we can go forward instead. Now,
I'm not going to sit here and tell you this
is going to be easy.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It is not.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Donald Trump and his weirdo running mate and the Republican
apparatus behind them will regroup. They will throw everything. It's
going to be gross, misogynistic, sexist, racist, all the things weirdo.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
That's the that's the word of the weekend. This is JB. Pritzker.
He's the governor of Illinois, JB. JB. Pritzker talking about JD. Van.
So this is JB talking about JD. And the word
weird comes in again. Cut four.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Our candidate is the energizer bunny. She's been everywhere all
the time over the last several days, and we're excited
about that to get to see her in the the
battleground states and all over the country. And her message
is one that I think resonates with people. At One
of those things, of course, is pointing out the differences
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between these two candidates. I mean, on the other side,
they're just weird. I mean, they really are the things
that they stand for. Donald Trump, of course, is afraid
of windmills, and you know, he talks about all kinds
of crazy. You know, his running mate, as you probably
have heard, is you know, getting known for his obsession
with couches and somebody who is hiding his views on
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a woman's right to choose. And then just broadly the
attack on people who are childless and saying that we
had to raise taxes on childless people, calling them cat ladies.
I think, you know, he apologized to cats, but he
he hasn't apologized to women.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Well, that elevates the debate. And then Tim Waltz is
a Democratic governor from Minnesota, same word weird. There must
have been some sort of a rally I think, or
maybe a memo that's what it is. Send them. The
word of the day is weirdo or weird Let's go
cut three.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Rub You look what they're talking about. They went right
to division. They did not give us a plan on healthcare.
Donald Trump talked about infrastructure. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
built bridges, built roads. So I think this is going
back to the bread and butter, getting away from this division.
We do not like what has happened where we can't
even go to Thanksgiving dinner with our uncle because you
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end up in some weird fight. That is unnecessary. And
I think bringing back people together.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, it's true.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
These guys are just weird and you know they're running
for key Man Women Haters Club or something. That's what
they go at. That's not what people are interested in.
And there is angst because Robert Baron's like JD. Vance
and Donald Trump got it. The Midwest told us we
didn't do that. They talk about private schools. Where in
the heck are you going to find a private school
in a town of four hundred. Those are public schools.
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Those are great teachers that are out there making a
difference and gave us an opportunity to succeed that ankst
that jd Vance talks about in hell Billy elg none
of my hill Billy cousins went to Yale.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
He should be the vice presidential nominee because he's good.
He got in about in fifty nine seconds. A whole
bunch of points there, as well as the fact that
because because his uncle has the hutzpah to disagree with
Governor Waltz, the Democratic governor of Minnesota, well what do
you do. You just say your uncle's a weirdo? The
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Thanksgiving dinner table. That's certainly going to bring America together.
We haven't even got to Elizabeth Warren yet. We're going
to get to her on the other side of the
break in your phone calls. How is it that the
whole conversation which a few just a few weeks, a
couple of weeks ago, after the assassination attempt on Donald Trump,
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we were all thinking, maybe we're going to get a
different type of campaign. If anything, this campaign is going lower,
quicker on both sides. Then that he makes twenty sixteen
and twenty twenty look like the Marcus of Queensbury rules.
If you agree, right, if you disagree, that's even better. Six, one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty, triple eight nine to nine ten thirty or
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six one seven, nine three one ten thirty were coming
right back on night Side.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ the News radio.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
By the way, coming to that comment by Governor Wells
of Minnesota, pretty pretty slick, you know. He hit about
five or six points, and he talked about one, you're
needing private schools in towns with four hundred people. No,
you don't need, Governor. If you're a little town in
Minnesota and you only have four hundred people, you don't
need a private school. Okay, you have a public school,
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it'll work. But if you're a kid in a major
urban city Chicago, Detroit, Minneapolis, Boston, New York, San Francisco,
you're the kid who's going to get short changed because
in those cities, all of the children of the elected officials,
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for the most part, go to private schools Saint Albans
in Washington, d C. The Friends of Sidwell School in Washington,
d C. The kid is the poor kids who go
to the public schools. That's why you do need some
sort of a vulture program and have some competition so
that it's just not the rich families that can send
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their kids to the private schools, but it's everyone. So again,
Governor Walt, you're being a little disingenuous with that nice presentation,
but a little disingenuous. I got to go to Elizabeth
Warren here real quickly because I have promised you this.
So this is the question that she was asked by
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Jake Tapper yesterday on ABC about immigration and of course
the number of people, the millions of people who have
crossed the border in the last three and a half
years cut sixteen robbed.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
I don't need to tell you voters overwhelmingly disapprove of
how the Biden Harris administration has handled the border. By
giving the nomination to one of the leaders of the
border effort, aren't Democrats doubling down on one of your
party's biggest vulnerabilities.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So this is the response from our senior Senator Elizabeth Warren,
and in the middle of it you will hear her
admit what the Democrats Why the Democrats have had open
borders for the last three and a half years and
encourage people to come here and cross the border in
during the last three and a half years. This is
cut thirteen her in full.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
Well, let's remember to start with the facts, and that
is that border crossings now are lower than they were
in the last year of the Trump administration. But recognize,
and I know that Kamala Harris knows this, This is
a problem that ultimately has to be solved by Congress.
We need the tools in order to have more resources
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at the border, to have more resources in the states
and cities that are supporting migrants, and I believe we
need to create a pathway to citizenship. All of that
is a part of what we need to do for
comprehensive immigration reform. Kamala Harris will work with Congress and
get that done. Donald Trump, by contrast, recognizes that Democrats
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and Republicans work together. Starting last fall, negotiated a deal.
Two days before they were getting ready to vote on
that border deal, Donald Trump called on the Republicans who
had praise the deal to back away from it because
he wanted chaos at the border, because he thought it
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would help him in this race. On November fifth, So
it's really a question of who do you trust on
the border. Do you trust someone who has actually been
a prosecutor who has been there in a border state,
who works with Congress toward a solution, or do you
trust someone who says, you know, chaos is politically helpful
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to him, so he's just going to go with that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
The borders are she was the head of the border
for three and a half years, and now the Democrats. No,
she remember what the borders are. No, I'm telling you
we're getting We're just getting the flim flam from both
sides here. Nobody, nobody is being square with the American
people at this point. It is as simple as that.
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And to listen to Elizabeth Warren. Now we know we
want to make eleven million people. If we could only
make eleven million people citizens by election day, Hey, thee
elects will be over. Let me go to Will and
Long Island. Will you've been very patient here as always.
Sorry we had to hold you a little bit. But
you've got a lot to talk about if you'd like,
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go ahead, Will.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
So, yeah, so let's unpack it a little bit. First off,
you know how I am about immigration.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I'm really not.
Speaker 10 (12:22):
I don't fit into the.
Speaker 9 (12:23):
Mold of either party. I believe that this wedge is
so that every two years or four years for president
or six years for Senate. Some imbecile could run on,
build a wall, there's stealing our jobs, and the other
side could run on we're a nation of immigrants, we
need to be compassionate. And white replacement theory is a thing.
I don't care what they say. I don't care if
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they call me racist. I'm not stupid. Just simply look
at the demographic nineteen sixty to twenty twenty four and
you'll just see the country was ninety something percent white
as late as nineteen fifty nine, and today if you're
not if you're excluding Latinos that consider themselves white, it
would be forty two percent.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
By the way, I don't buy in. I don't just
so you know, you and I agree in a lot
of things. I do not buy into that at all.
I think there is a natural progression. That's why you
don't really in this country. Came from England in sixteen twenty.
But you displace bridge to that theory.
Speaker 10 (13:20):
Okay, you don't have to buy into that theory.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
But there's a reason why it is so hard to
get in from other places and not from certain places, Okay, because.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
That's because of grad That is because of legislation that
Congress says passing demographic votes a certain way. I agree with.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
You, in demographic votes a certain way. And the reason
they need more is because thirty seven percent of Latinos
voted for Trump. So after they're here for a couple
of generations and they decide to become Republicans, then you
have the first lady.
Speaker 10 (13:48):
Go out there and say your community is.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
The versus tacos, so we need to import some more tacos.
Please say, listen, I have property in South America. I know,
I speak fluent Spanish. I deal with a lot of
Latino people. I understand what they're doing to that demographic.
And if they really cared about Latinos Dan, well, then
when they were talking about those poor Doca kids, when
Trump was the president, Doca docat Doca o, Casio Cortez
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was on her knees in the white pants suit, crying
down at the border. They had the House, the Senate,
and the presidency for the first two years.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
We're very much aware of that. You're absolutely correct.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
At that point, but I just k they did nothing
about it.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, so go ahead. I don't mean to interrupt you.
Speaker 10 (14:30):
Go ahead, No, that's fine.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
I don't want to either talk over you either, but
I know that's a really that's a point where we
are in extreme disagreement, or that there is a I
don't believe in coincidences, Dan, I believe that if they're sociologists,
lawyers and psychologists on their side can figure it out
years before we cand. That's how you wind up with
one hundred years of left indoctrination to our school systems
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that turned in today. This is not an action that
was by design all of this anyway. She also mentioned
some other great things. I don't know if you heard
all of that.
Speaker 10 (15:00):
I don't know if it was in this interview with
the last one.
Speaker 9 (15:02):
Your senator over there about fixing the Supreme Court, you know,
to fix it then.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Well, yeah, absolutely, because in her view it's undemocratic. But
of course what people forget to mention is that presidents
are elected by the people, and that presidents, based upon
the retirement of individual justices, they're going to have to
do a lot to change the constitution. You couldn't have
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a democratic process than the Supreme Court, because it's presidents
who are elected by the people who choose and by
the way, they then have to be confirmed by the
US Senate, and they have been Supreme Court nominees that
were rejected by the US Senate.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
Well, that's completely logical what you just said. But you
know what, I'm starting to agree with them at this point.
You know what, You're right, Let's pack the court. When
we win this time, and if we have the House
and the Senate and we have the presidency, You're right,
let's pack the court. Let's put on five more conservative
justices so we never have to have this conversation ever again.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well, you don't believe that. I don't believe that, Okay,
of course not.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
But you know how did we get here, Dan, Because
Harry Reid at one time said we won't have it
during an election year. Then we said we won't have
it during an election year, and then we made it
during an election tit for tat politics. That's how we got.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Out absolute And let me take this. The average person
doesn't remember that, and even if you and I remind
them of that, they won't remember it by tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (16:29):
They'll remember That's how they get away with this. They
don't remember that Kamala.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
Harris Okay was putting people in jail for the same
laws that Joe Biden authored that put black people in
prison for minor drug offenses, and she was out there
imprisoning them for marijuana. And then when the political tide turned,
they pretended like it never happened.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
But it was she putting people in jail for marijuana.
She was imbibing herself.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
Oh well, I think she made that up.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
I think she made that up to act cool.
Speaker 10 (17:03):
I don't think she ever smoked a joint ever in
her life.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I don't know. I can only you. I tend to
believe what people say. Of maybe I'm not.
Speaker 10 (17:12):
If they're so, I'll tell you where they got the word.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I'll tell you. Let me just say one quick thing,
and then if his, I'll give you find a word. Okay.
This is the miraculous nomination because this, to the best
of my knowledge, is the first nominee of a Democratic
or Republican party who won the nomination without ever having
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a single vote cast for her, uh and without ever
having a delegate nominated for her. This is the immaculate
nomination of like that, That's what I'll tell you. I
say that one for you. It's the immaculate nomination.
Speaker 9 (17:54):
And the irony of of of Biden running around saying
Putin's elections are unfair. Meanwhile, the Democrats did everything they
could to exclude everybody from a fair primary that they
knew that this guy was mentally incompetent. That's another thing
when they start telling you, oh, well, you know what, yeah,
now he's mentally incompetent. So three weeks before, when Morning
Joe was saying, this is the best version of Biden
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we've ever seen, and three weeks later he.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
Became mentally incompetent. I tell them, you don't get to
do that. You don't get to say that you voted
for him when he was like this, and you.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
Would vote for him again if he was leading in
the polls. Your disingenuous, your borderline liars, and you were
trying to shove this down people's throat. And if he
wasn't losing in the polls, you'd make excuses for what
he is right now, and you still vote.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The funny thing was he really wasn't losing in the post.
I saw some polls from John from Suffolk University that
had I think it was Trump forty six and Biden
forty three.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
You know it was, It wasn't really the polls that
show the national election that they were concerned about.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
It was aground states.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Yeah, and which is why Hillary Clinton won the election
by two million but wound up losing the election.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I get that, so they yeah, so well, okay, that's fine.
But what I'm saying is, I don't know that a
month from now, Harris's numbers are going to be any better.
But I mean it is. It's the immaculate nomination.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
First, I love the phrase.
Speaker 10 (19:22):
You know, it's perfect, it fits perfectly. But you know,
also one more thing I know.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You could when you call other talk shows.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
Are I'm gonna repeat it everywhere. I'm gonna repeat.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It phrase and give me credit or not. I don't care.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Well know, Dan Ray, my friend Dan Ray called it
the immaculate nomination, and it is.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well, when you think about it, there wasn't one penny
spent on a bumper sticker, there wasn't one campaign rally.
It was all Joe Biden. Yeah, I know, it's the.
Speaker 10 (19:48):
Million dollars all right, into the caffers.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
It was fantastic. It was just great.
Speaker 10 (19:53):
But here's here's my favorite place.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Last last comment will go four minutes into the newscast.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
Go ahead, fine, you know when they got Weirdo from Dan.
My friends were at the RNC and the minute that
they nominated jd Vance, I talked to my friends on
the phone and I said.
Speaker 10 (20:07):
Why did they nominate that weirdo?
Speaker 9 (20:09):
The first thing I said, all right, so maybe they
were taped into my phone, dam because I don't care
if the Republicans listen to your show, will listen to
me right now? Even if someone have known me and
liked me, The man is a weirdo.
Speaker 10 (20:19):
And I don't know why we didn't pick Tim Scott.
All right, have a good night, buddy, I'll talk to
you soon.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Well, I think the person who should have been picked
with Nicky Haley.
Speaker 9 (20:27):
She would have been okay.
Speaker 10 (20:28):
But I'm a Tim Scott guy.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
The Democrats don't get me wrong. But if Trumpet had
the courage to say to himself, look, you know she
had been my investmor to you, and she's she's comfortable with.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
She Obviously he obviously forgives never Trumpers because this weirdo
was a never Trumper.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But yeah, I agree, Irony, this is not somebody who
has been there. This is not like he's looking to
run with Steve.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
But what about the outfit? What about the optics of
a black male vice president, and then have all the
white liberals coming out calling them uncle Tom in all
types of derogatory words, and then get to sit back
and pretend they're not racist, and all the racism will
come full display of the of the Democratic Party. As
long as it's as long as you're black in Democrats,
then it's okay.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
All right, we got we went a long time here. Well,
I gotta let you go as always game, Thank you man,
talk to you. All right, Well we'll keep rolling here.
Let me move Will off. You can drop Will for me.
Thank you very much. Rob We're going to get back
to phone calls right after this news break at the
bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
All right, we may have two same numbers up there,
rob By the way, just open up that one line here,
double check me, if you would, If you would be
so kind, let me go to the first Stephen Cambridge.
I think this is the regular Stephen Cambridge. Hi, Steve,
how are you lost that Stephen? Okay, here we go.
This is this is the actual Stephen Cambridge.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
I accident hung up the phone. Okay, that's Okay, that
that previous caller. I mean, he has a lot of
interesting things to say, but he says them so fast
and so emphatically. I couldn't follow what his general Uh
does he have a general point, David? I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You're talking about wil from Long Island, right.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
Yes, does he have a general point? I mean, yeah, he's.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
He's pretty, he's pretty skeptical of a lot. You know,
I had an issue with you know, he for some
reason brought up this this stupid right wing idea of
the white replacement theory, which goes back to the to
that horrible scene done in in Virginia many years ago.
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I just think that that is counterproductive. I mean, let
the other side be divisive. Let's talk about unity, Let's
talk about how all of us talk about the issues
that That's what drives me.
Speaker 11 (23:00):
Know you, I agree with you, and I hope and pray,
But I don't know if he's going to do it.
That Donald Trump will just talk about the issues with
his opponent. And because she's so far left that I
think if you just go by what she says, I
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think a lot of Americans will see that this is
really not the way we want to go forward in
this country.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Well, the funny thing about it was that when she
ran for president in the run up to twenty twenty,
she had no support, absolutely no support, and she was
the first in in the first out. She didn't make
it past the Iowa didn't make it to the Iowa caucus.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
Right, I don't know if we can. Well, you know, Dan,
I have to say, I don't like the term replacement theory.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's ridiculous. It's a ridiculous I.
Speaker 11 (23:58):
Do believe at the left definitely wants to change the
demography in this country, and I believe they one of
the reasons they do it are the primary reason they
do it, is because they know that our constitution was founded,
was written determined by white Anglo Saxon men, and they
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and I think that they feel that other ethnic groups
and whatnot really do not bide, do not by the
principles of our constitution.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well, I'll tell you I think she's dead wrong on that,
and I'll tell you why. Okay, I think, but the
Left wants to divide this country between is people who
work hard, go to work every day, and are interested
in pursuing the American dream, interested in improving the lot
of their families, their lot and all of that and people.
They want more people here who depended upon the government.
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That's what they want, that is.
Speaker 10 (24:59):
No question, just matter.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It doesn't matter what their skin color is, what their
ethnic background is. They want people who are dependent upon
them so that they can pass another program that doesn't
help those people. Those people languish in poverty, they're not
helped at any point. The same people who were in
poverty ten years ago for the most part of poverty today.
And when people get out of poverty, they say to themselves, Hey,
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this idea of freedom and a free market, that's a
pretty good deal. You know. It allowed me to start
a business and now I'm I'm the boss and I'm
employing twenty people.
Speaker 11 (25:31):
Well, I think people like Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren,
free enterprise to them is anathema.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, well again, they certainly don't believe in it. You
have you know, I mean Warren of all, I mean
she's a socialist. They look at socialist countries around the
world is what we should become. That's what they want
us to become. And that's not what we ever have been.
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We have. They do not look at America as an
exceptional country. We're exceptional not because of our geography, but
because of the economic system that offers people an opportunity
to improve their lot in life.
Speaker 11 (26:11):
Right. But Dan, you know one thing that that fellow
said and that I kind of agree with, is that
part of the reason for that is the demographics and
the demographics produced are constitution. And if they can change
the demographics, they can completely overwhelm the Constitution, like what
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they're trying to do with the Supreme Court. That means individuals.
That means hard work, Yes, that means a certain amount
of religiosity, moral rectitude. These are things that again I
think they find anethma.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
But I think that people of all backgrounds, I mean,
you do not have more fundamentally religious peace people than
African Americans in America. The average African American spends a
hell of a lot more time in church than the
average white suburban couple. The average Hispanic spends a heck
of a lot more time in organized in an organized religion.
(27:14):
I'm just telling you that that people evolve, it's it's
freedom that they don't like. They don't I.
Speaker 11 (27:21):
Think I don't think any of like, if you look
at South America, there's no way that our constitution would
have come out of South America. There's no way it
would have come out of Asia, there's no way that
it would come out of Africa.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
But there's a lot of people out of those countries
who by hook up by crook, want to get here
to take advantage of.
Speaker 11 (27:37):
Our and they want that and they respect our constitution.
I agree with you, but I think the left looks
that if they can change the demography and.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Can I get one.
Speaker 11 (27:47):
Last you know, I think one thing that's going to
be unfairly critical of Kamala Harris is my guess is
that her stance on marijuana in calif when she supposedly
was so strict and enforcing the law, is that she
was going after marijuana simply because you know, it's people
(28:11):
plead down to marijuana. That she was actually going after
real criminality, and you know, she wasn't really going after
the marijuana. I mean, very few people in the United
States and last twenty years have really spent time in
jail for marijuana less it's large, large quantities most of
the time.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And we're talking, we're talking about her time in early nineties,
in the early two thousands and My understanding is that
she was throwing the book at people if you got
caught up. And again, I'm not a marijuana guy.
Speaker 11 (28:42):
Okay, no, I know that neither.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
However, however, she apparently was laughing when I think it
was she was on with I forget which national talk
show host, and he raised the He raised the issue
with her might have been Chelomie to God who raised
the issue with her about putting black men in jail
for minor drug offenses. And he asked her, and you
(29:08):
you you must have smoked pots. I did. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (29:11):
I don't think Dan, those guys are going to jail
from minor product expent. I think they were pleading down
to a minor plot pod ex pod. I think they
were committing other crimes. But they the state decided, well,
we can get them on marijuana. He's you're still given that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, well okay, we can. We can agree to disagree
with that. When Steve Arire, thank you very much, Thank
you much, Steve from Cambridge. We will be right back
on nightside. We got a couple of open lines at
six one seven uh six one seven ninety. That'll get
you right in the door and we will talk about
this into the next hour if you want, and if not,
we have another topic or two which we can get
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to again. You decide, but you got to light the
lines up if you want to continue to talk about
this back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the the World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Back we go. Let's go to Tom and Rossendale. Tom
next on the Nightside, Go right ahead.
Speaker 12 (30:09):
Hi, Dan, Tom. Earlier in the conversation, you mentioned that
Jen Sackey was speaking on behalf of the White House.
But she doesn't work for the White House anymore, so
I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I didn't say she was speaking in behalf of the
White House. I said she used to be the press
secretary at the White House.
Speaker 10 (30:26):
Oh okay, I thought I thought you were.
Speaker 12 (30:29):
Saying that she spoke on behalf of the White House
and was calling him a weirdo and that.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
But she's at she's a political operator, just as as
some Republicans used to be, you know, white House press secretaries.
She's she obviously has a has a point which she
could have, so no, the democratic governors have a point
of view. But I did not say she was speaking
on behalf. I said that she's a former spokesperson for
the White House.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 12 (30:55):
And when you were speaking about Elizabeth Warren saying that,
did you say that she wanted to get eleven million
people in here before the election?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
No, what I said was what I said was that
there are eleven million people who have come in in
the last three and a half years. That's one of
the estimates. And she used the figure that we have
to do, you know, all of this immigration reform, including
getting those eleven people on the pathway to citizenship. And
(31:24):
I said, I'm sure it would be her dream to
have them made citizens before this election, but that's not
going to happen that quickly.
Speaker 12 (31:30):
No, of course not.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
But still the point is the point she wants to reward.
The point is trying to make tom if I, and
I'd love to get your reaction to it, was that
she wants to reward people who have come here in
defiance of our immigration rules, as opposed to awarding the
p I would rather take the first eleven million people
who are in line and have have filed you know,
(31:54):
legitimate requests to come here consistent with our rate, with
our immigration rules. I'd rather make them citizens before people.
Speaker 12 (32:04):
Will come here legally first in line. I agree with
you one, But can I ask you, if you were
to vote for tomorrow, would you vote for Donald J.
Speaker 10 (32:14):
Trump?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Well, first of all, I've never voted. I haven't voted
in the last two elections. I don't know if either
one of these candidates. I had a couple of opportunities
to vote for Trump, I chose not to. I didn't
vote for Biden. I didn't vote for Hillary either. And
I had said before when when President Biden was still
a candidate, that I'd seen the movie before and they
(32:37):
didn't like the way it ended. And I'm not impressed
by Kamala Harris either. You know, I'm impressed by some
of the Democratic governors that are out there from what
I hear about them. But but I think if if
you think Joe Biden was was was rule by a
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bunch of progressors, If you like the way things have
gone to this country in the last four years, be
sure to vote for Kamala Harris because they'll only get worse.
Speaker 12 (33:10):
And you were saying that she's the immaculate nomination, the
immaculate she hasn't been nominated yet.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Do you have any doubt that she's going to be
the nominee. Matter of fact, should be the nominee before
the convention. That's even better, should be the nominee nominee
by August seventh. That's the timetable, that's the schedule. She
was selected by the Grand poobas of the Democratic Party
and by the money class and the Democratic Party. All
those fourteen million people went to the polls in Iowa
(33:41):
and New Hampshire and other states that voted for Joe Biden.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
But she has not been nominated yet.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Well, you know what, you're right, You're absolutely right, you're
absolutely And let me tell you something else. The election
which is scheduled, well, well, it will be the immaculate
nomination when she's nominated, because she will be nominated without
in my I'm going to predict, you know what else
you're going to predict, Tom, I'm going to predict that
the Democratic nominee is going to carry Massachusetts in November.
(34:11):
You can you can mark that one up on the board. Okay,
there's something on that. Yeah, yeah, And I'm going out
on the limb in terms of the immaculate nomination as well.
Thanks Tom gott to run, appreciate it. Let me get
one more in here if I can before the break, Okay,
and we're gonna go to Eileen in Waltham. Hi, Eileen,
how are you good?
Speaker 13 (34:29):
Thanks Dan? And how are you to deceave me?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I'm a little tight on time, and I don't want
you to have to wait through the news.
Speaker 13 (34:33):
Go ahead, I question no quick statement I read today
before I saw Elizabeth Warren's statement, that's forty percent of
the people in Massachusetts. Twenty one percent of the people
in Massachusetts do not speak English.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I don't know that to be true. I did not
know that to be false, but.
Speaker 13 (34:53):
It was you know, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Well, we have I will tell you this. We have.
We have about seven million people at this point in Massa.
I think it's six point eight but let's say seven million,
so forty percent of that would be almost three million,
about two point eight million people. No. Now, maybe they
mean English is not their first language. But there's a
lot of people.
Speaker 13 (35:12):
Who speaking No, no, they don't speak English. And I
know I have a business with Elgrit yep and more
than forty percent of the people and ever don't speak English.
Well over half the people that I run into.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Well, I mean that certainly should qualify them to be
able to vote, don't you think, and become citizens.
Speaker 13 (35:30):
Yeah, but no, but about twenty percent nationwide. Guess what
there were no non speaking people at Martha's Vinion, or
in Wellesley or in very few and Cambridge.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah no, I know that, well, I know that. Yeah. Fact,
the good people at Martha's Vineyard made sure when those
folks landed on that plane they were given some sandwiches
and some T shirts and maybe a hat or two
and put on the bus the next day off the
island water. All right, I lean, I think you made
(36:04):
your point. You made it really.
Speaker 13 (36:05):
Well interesting combination when I saw the two of them together.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Thanks Eilean. Talk again. I'll give you more time next time.
But you don't have to wait to Linus and Mark.
You stay there, you'll be first up. If not, if
you're not there, folks six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty,
we'll carry this for a while. We're going to also
switch topics a little bit later on tonight and talk
about that Olympics opening ceremony which caused so much controversy.
(36:30):
But we'll continue for a while on this again. You
decide what we want to talk about. Coming back one
night side
It's nice Eyes.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
All right, it is Monday night, thanks very much, Dan Watkins,
and we are moving into the political season, and it's
it's it's been a very interesting few weeks. And I
eventually want to get around to Elizabeth Warren's comments yesterday
with Jake Tapper on ABC News on Sunday morning. But
(00:30):
it's interesting. No matter where you turn, there's something to
talk about. So uh, let me try to spray the
field of fire here quickly and get your response to
any or all of this, and then we will get
to Elizabeth Warren's call for a pathway to citizenship for
people who are here as migrants, or to put it
(00:51):
in other terms, here illegally. So. Donald Trump is down
at some summit in which, for some reason he takes
it upon himself to urge Christians to vote for him.
I'm assuming that some Christians will vote for him, and
(01:13):
some Christians won't vote for him. But then he's telling
the Christians who voted for him that they won't have
to worry about it anymore, which of course gives I
think which is weird. I mean, I would assume that
he would want everyone to vote for him and I
think part of the problem with these both candidates in
(01:37):
both parties right now is they're trying to fractionalize America.
And I think it's I think it's harmful. And now
I know some of my Trump supporters are going to
be upset about this, But this is the former president,
in his own words, cut one over the weekend, at
a turning point summit. Cut one.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
You won't have to do it anymore four more years
here as you know what, it'll be fixed. It'll be fine.
You won't have to vote anymore. My beautiful Christians. I
love you Christians. I'm not Christian. I love you.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Get out. You gotta get out and vote.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
In four years, you don't have to vote again.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
We'll have it fixed. So good, You're not gonna have
to What does that mean? Also, he's not Christian. I
don't know. I haven't thought about it, and I don't
know what his religion is, if he has a religion
at all other than loyalty to the name, to the brand.
(02:38):
Then we have the Democrats all using the same word.
And you wonder if someone had gotten the memo. So
here we have someone on MSNBC. This is a former
spokesperson for the White House. Jen Saki calling JD. Vance
(02:58):
a weirdo. It's same used, same word used by a
couple of other Democratic governors. We'll get to that in
a second. This is Jen Psaki. Listen to the word weirdo.
Cut five.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
Kamin Harrison. So many ways, might just be the right
candidate at the right time, the right candidate for this century.
By the way, she might be the right candidate to
tell the country that actually we don't have to go back,
to tell the country that actually that wasn't so great
for lots of Americans, and that we can go forward instead. Now,
I'm not going to sit here and tell you this
is going to be easy.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
It is not.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
Donald Trump and his weirdo running mate and the Republican
apparatus behind them will regroup. They will throw everything. It's
going to be gross, misogynistic, sexist, racist, all the things weirdo.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
That's the that's the word of the weekend. This is JB. Pritzker.
He's the governor of Illinois, JB. JB. Pritzker talking about JD. Van.
So this is JB talking about JD. And the word
weird comes in again. Cut four.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
Our candidate is the energizer bunny. She's been everywhere all
the time over the last several days, and we're excited
about that to get to see her in the the
battleground states and all over the country. And her message
is one that I think resonates with people. At One
of those things, of course, is pointing out the differences
(04:23):
between these two candidates. I mean, on the other side,
they're just weird. I mean, they really are the things
that they stand for. Donald Trump, of course, is afraid
of windmills, and you know, he talks about all kinds
of crazy. You know, his running mate, as you probably
have heard, is you know, getting known for his obsession
with couches and somebody who is hiding his views on
(04:45):
a woman's right to choose. And then just broadly the
attack on people who are childless and saying that we
had to raise taxes on childless people, calling them cat ladies.
I think, you know, he apologized to cats, but he
he hasn't apologized to women.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
Well, that elevates the debate. And then Tim Waltz is
a Democratic governor from Minnesota, same word weird. There must
have been some sort of a rally I think, or
maybe a memo that's what it is. Send them. The
word of the day is weirdo or weird Let's go
cut three.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
Rub You look what they're talking about. They went right
to division. They did not give us a plan on healthcare.
Donald Trump talked about infrastructure. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris
built bridges, built roads. So I think this is going
back to the bread and butter, getting away from this division.
We do not like what has happened where we can't
even go to Thanksgiving dinner with our uncle because you
(05:43):
end up in some weird fight. That is unnecessary. And
I think bringing back people together.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, it's true.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
These guys are just weird and you know they're running
for key Man Women Haters Club or something. That's what
they go at. That's not what people are interested in.
And there is angst because Robert Baron's like JD. Vance
and Donald Trump got it. The Midwest told us we
didn't do that. They talk about private schools. Where in
the heck are you going to find a private school
in a town of four hundred. Those are public schools.
(06:11):
Those are great teachers that are out there making a
difference and gave us an opportunity to succeed that ankst
that jd Vance talks about in hell Billy elg none
of my hill Billy cousins went to Yale.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
He should be the vice presidential nominee because he's good.
He got in about in fifty nine seconds. A whole
bunch of points there, as well as the fact that
because because his uncle has the hutzpah to disagree with
Governor Waltz, the Democratic governor of Minnesota, well what do
you do. You just say your uncle's a weirdo? The
(06:48):
Thanksgiving dinner table. That's certainly going to bring America together.
We haven't even got to Elizabeth Warren yet. We're going
to get to her on the other side of the
break in your phone calls. How is it that the
whole conversation which a few just a few weeks, a
couple of weeks ago, after the assassination attempt on Donald Trump,
(07:11):
we were all thinking, maybe we're going to get a
different type of campaign. If anything, this campaign is going lower,
quicker on both sides. Then that he makes twenty sixteen
and twenty twenty look like the Marcus of Queensbury rules.
If you agree, right, if you disagree, that's even better. Six, one, seven, two, five, four,
ten thirty, triple eight nine to nine ten thirty or
(07:33):
six one seven, nine three one ten thirty were coming
right back on night Side.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World
Nightside Studios on WBZ the News radio.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
By the way, coming to that comment by Governor Wells
of Minnesota, pretty pretty slick, you know. He hit about
five or six points, and he talked about one, you're
needing private schools in towns with four hundred people. No,
you don't need, Governor. If you're a little town in
Minnesota and you only have four hundred people, you don't
need a private school. Okay, you have a public school,
(08:08):
it'll work. But if you're a kid in a major
urban city Chicago, Detroit, Minneapolis, Boston, New York, San Francisco,
you're the kid who's going to get short changed because
in those cities, all of the children of the elected officials,
(08:28):
for the most part, go to private schools Saint Albans
in Washington, d C. The Friends of Sidwell School in Washington,
d C. The kid is the poor kids who go
to the public schools. That's why you do need some
sort of a vulture program and have some competition so
that it's just not the rich families that can send
(08:51):
their kids to the private schools, but it's everyone. So again,
Governor Walt, you're being a little disingenuous with that nice presentation,
but a little disingenuous. I got to go to Elizabeth
Warren here real quickly because I have promised you this.
So this is the question that she was asked by
(09:13):
Jake Tapper yesterday on ABC about immigration and of course
the number of people, the millions of people who have
crossed the border in the last three and a half
years cut sixteen robbed.
Speaker 7 (09:24):
I don't need to tell you voters overwhelmingly disapprove of
how the Biden Harris administration has handled the border. By
giving the nomination to one of the leaders of the
border effort, aren't Democrats doubling down on one of your
party's biggest vulnerabilities.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
So this is the response from our senior Senator Elizabeth Warren,
and in the middle of it you will hear her
admit what the Democrats Why the Democrats have had open
borders for the last three and a half years and
encourage people to come here and cross the border in
during the last three and a half years. This is
cut thirteen her in full.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
Well, let's remember to start with the facts, and that
is that border crossings now are lower than they were
in the last year of the Trump administration. But recognize,
and I know that Kamala Harris knows this, This is
a problem that ultimately has to be solved by Congress.
We need the tools in order to have more resources
(10:23):
at the border, to have more resources in the states
and cities that are supporting migrants, and I believe we
need to create a pathway to citizenship. All of that
is a part of what we need to do for
comprehensive immigration reform. Kamala Harris will work with Congress and
get that done. Donald Trump, by contrast, recognizes that Democrats
(10:46):
and Republicans work together. Starting last fall, negotiated a deal.
Two days before they were getting ready to vote on
that border deal, Donald Trump called on the Republicans who
had praise the deal to back away from it because
he wanted chaos at the border, because he thought it
(11:08):
would help him in this race. On November fifth, So
it's really a question of who do you trust on
the border. Do you trust someone who has actually been
a prosecutor who has been there in a border state,
who works with Congress toward a solution, or do you
trust someone who says, you know, chaos is politically helpful
(11:30):
to him, so he's just going to go with that.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
The borders are she was the head of the border
for three and a half years, and now the Democrats. No,
she remember what the borders are. No, I'm telling you
we're getting We're just getting the flim flam from both
sides here. Nobody, nobody is being square with the American
people at this point. It is as simple as that.
(11:55):
And to listen to Elizabeth Warren. Now we know we
want to make eleven million people. If we could only
make eleven million people citizens by election day, Hey, thee
elects will be over. Let me go to Will and
Long Island. Will you've been very patient here as always.
Sorry we had to hold you a little bit. But
you've got a lot to talk about if you'd like,
(12:16):
go ahead, Will.
Speaker 9 (12:17):
So, yeah, so let's unpack it a little bit. First off,
you know how I am about immigration.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I'm really not.
Speaker 10 (12:22):
I don't fit into the.
Speaker 9 (12:23):
Mold of either party. I believe that this wedge is
so that every two years or four years for president
or six years for Senate. Some imbecile could run on,
build a wall, there's stealing our jobs, and the other
side could run on we're a nation of immigrants, we
need to be compassionate. And white replacement theory is a thing.
I don't care what they say. I don't care if
(12:43):
they call me racist. I'm not stupid. Just simply look
at the demographic nineteen sixty to twenty twenty four and
you'll just see the country was ninety something percent white
as late as nineteen fifty nine, and today if you're
not if you're excluding Latinos that consider themselves white, it
would be forty two percent.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
By the way, I don't buy in. I don't just
so you know, you and I agree in a lot
of things. I do not buy into that at all.
I think there is a natural progression. That's why you
don't really in this country. Came from England in sixteen twenty.
But you displace bridge to that theory.
Speaker 10 (13:20):
Okay, you don't have to buy into that theory.
Speaker 9 (13:21):
But there's a reason why it is so hard to
get in from other places and not from certain places, Okay, because.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
That's because of grad That is because of legislation that
Congress says passing demographic votes a certain way. I agree with.
Speaker 9 (13:34):
You, in demographic votes a certain way. And the reason
they need more is because thirty seven percent of Latinos
voted for Trump. So after they're here for a couple
of generations and they decide to become Republicans, then you
have the first lady.
Speaker 10 (13:48):
Go out there and say your community is.
Speaker 9 (13:50):
The versus tacos, so we need to import some more tacos.
Please say, listen, I have property in South America. I know,
I speak fluent Spanish. I deal with a lot of
Latino people. I understand what they're doing to that demographic.
And if they really cared about Latinos Dan, well, then
when they were talking about those poor Doca kids, when
Trump was the president, Doca docat Doca o, Casio Cortez
(14:12):
was on her knees in the white pants suit, crying
down at the border. They had the House, the Senate,
and the presidency for the first two years.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
We're very much aware of that. You're absolutely correct.
Speaker 9 (14:25):
At that point, but I just k they did nothing
about it.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
Yeah, so go ahead. I don't mean to interrupt you.
Speaker 10 (14:30):
Go ahead, No, that's fine.
Speaker 9 (14:32):
I don't want to either talk over you either, but
I know that's a really that's a point where we
are in extreme disagreement, or that there is a I
don't believe in coincidences, Dan, I believe that if they're sociologists,
lawyers and psychologists on their side can figure it out
years before we cand. That's how you wind up with
one hundred years of left indoctrination to our school systems
(14:52):
that turned in today. This is not an action that
was by design all of this anyway. She also mentioned
some other great things. I don't know if you heard
all of that.
Speaker 10 (15:00):
I don't know if it was in this interview with
the last one.
Speaker 9 (15:02):
Your senator over there about fixing the Supreme Court, you know,
to fix it then.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
Well, yeah, absolutely, because in her view it's undemocratic. But
of course what people forget to mention is that presidents
are elected by the people, and that presidents, based upon
the retirement of individual justices, they're going to have to
do a lot to change the constitution. You couldn't have
(15:29):
a democratic process than the Supreme Court, because it's presidents
who are elected by the people who choose and by
the way, they then have to be confirmed by the
US Senate, and they have been Supreme Court nominees that
were rejected by the US Senate.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
Well, that's completely logical what you just said. But you
know what, I'm starting to agree with them at this point.
You know what, You're right, Let's pack the court. When
we win this time, and if we have the House
and the Senate and we have the presidency, You're right,
let's pack the court. Let's put on five more conservative
justices so we never have to have this conversation ever again.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Well, you don't believe that. I don't believe that, Okay,
of course not.
Speaker 9 (16:07):
But you know how did we get here, Dan, Because
Harry Reid at one time said we won't have it
during an election year. Then we said we won't have
it during an election year, and then we made it
during an election tit for tat politics. That's how we got.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Out absolute And let me take this. The average person
doesn't remember that, and even if you and I remind
them of that, they won't remember it by tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (16:29):
They'll remember That's how they get away with this. They
don't remember that Kamala.
Speaker 9 (16:32):
Harris Okay was putting people in jail for the same
laws that Joe Biden authored that put black people in
prison for minor drug offenses, and she was out there
imprisoning them for marijuana. And then when the political tide turned,
they pretended like it never happened.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
But it was she putting people in jail for marijuana.
She was imbibing herself.
Speaker 10 (17:00):
Oh well, I think she made that up.
Speaker 9 (17:01):
I think she made that up to act cool.
Speaker 10 (17:03):
I don't think she ever smoked a joint ever in
her life.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
I don't know. I can only you. I tend to
believe what people say. Of maybe I'm not.
Speaker 10 (17:12):
If they're so, I'll tell you where they got the word.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
I'll tell you. Let me just say one quick thing,
and then if his, I'll give you find a word. Okay.
This is the miraculous nomination because this, to the best
of my knowledge, is the first nominee of a Democratic
or Republican party who won the nomination without ever having
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a single vote cast for her, uh and without ever
having a delegate nominated for her. This is the immaculate
nomination of like that, That's what I'll tell you. I
say that one for you. It's the immaculate nomination.
Speaker 9 (17:54):
And the irony of of of Biden running around saying
Putin's elections are unfair. Meanwhile, the Democrats did everything they
could to exclude everybody from a fair primary that they
knew that this guy was mentally incompetent. That's another thing
when they start telling you, oh, well, you know what, yeah,
now he's mentally incompetent. So three weeks before, when Morning
Joe was saying, this is the best version of Biden
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we've ever seen, and three weeks later he.
Speaker 10 (18:17):
Became mentally incompetent. I tell them, you don't get to
do that. You don't get to say that you voted
for him when he was like this, and you.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
Would vote for him again if he was leading in
the polls. Your disingenuous, your borderline liars, and you were
trying to shove this down people's throat. And if he
wasn't losing in the polls, you'd make excuses for what
he is right now, and you still vote.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
The funny thing was he really wasn't losing in the post.
I saw some polls from John from Suffolk University that
had I think it was Trump forty six and Biden
forty three.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
You know it was, It wasn't really the polls that
show the national election that they were concerned about.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
It was aground states.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
Yeah, and which is why Hillary Clinton won the election
by two million but wound up losing the election.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I get that, so they yeah, so well, okay, that's fine.
But what I'm saying is, I don't know that a
month from now, Harris's numbers are going to be any better.
But I mean it is. It's the immaculate nomination.
Speaker 9 (19:20):
First, I love the phrase.
Speaker 10 (19:22):
You know, it's perfect, it fits perfectly. But you know,
also one more thing I know.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
You could when you call other talk shows.
Speaker 10 (19:29):
Are I'm gonna repeat it everywhere. I'm gonna repeat.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
It phrase and give me credit or not. I don't care.
Speaker 9 (19:35):
Well know, Dan Ray, my friend Dan Ray called it
the immaculate nomination, and it is.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Well, when you think about it, there wasn't one penny
spent on a bumper sticker, there wasn't one campaign rally.
It was all Joe Biden. Yeah, I know, it's the.
Speaker 10 (19:48):
Million dollars all right, into the caffers.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
It was fantastic. It was just great.
Speaker 10 (19:53):
But here's here's my favorite place.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Last last comment will go four minutes into the newscast.
Speaker 9 (19:57):
Go ahead, fine, you know when they got Weirdo from Dan.
My friends were at the RNC and the minute that
they nominated jd Vance, I talked to my friends on
the phone and I said.
Speaker 10 (20:07):
Why did they nominate that weirdo?
Speaker 9 (20:09):
The first thing I said, all right, so maybe they
were taped into my phone, dam because I don't care
if the Republicans listen to your show, will listen to
me right now? Even if someone have known me and
liked me, The man is a weirdo.
Speaker 10 (20:19):
And I don't know why we didn't pick Tim Scott.
All right, have a good night, buddy, I'll talk to
you soon.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
Well, I think the person who should have been picked
with Nicky Haley.
Speaker 9 (20:27):
She would have been okay.
Speaker 10 (20:28):
But I'm a Tim Scott guy.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
The Democrats don't get me wrong. But if Trumpet had
the courage to say to himself, look, you know she
had been my investmor to you, and she's she's comfortable with.
Speaker 9 (20:40):
She Obviously he obviously forgives never Trumpers because this weirdo
was a never Trumper.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
But yeah, I agree, Irony, this is not somebody who
has been there. This is not like he's looking to
run with Steve.
Speaker 9 (20:50):
But what about the outfit? What about the optics of
a black male vice president, and then have all the
white liberals coming out calling them uncle Tom in all
types of derogatory words, and then get to sit back
and pretend they're not racist, and all the racism will
come full display of the of the Democratic Party. As
long as it's as long as you're black in Democrats,
then it's okay.
Speaker 1 (21:10):
All right, we got we went a long time here. Well,
I gotta let you go as always game, Thank you man,
talk to you. All right, Well we'll keep rolling here.
Let me move Will off. You can drop Will for me.
Thank you very much. Rob We're going to get back
to phone calls right after this news break at the
bottom of the hour.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
It's Night Side with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
All right, we may have two same numbers up there,
rob By the way, just open up that one line here,
double check me, if you would, If you would be
so kind, let me go to the first Stephen Cambridge.
I think this is the regular Stephen Cambridge. Hi, Steve,
how are you lost that Stephen? Okay, here we go.
This is this is the actual Stephen Cambridge.
Speaker 11 (21:56):
I accident hung up the phone. Okay, that's Okay, that
that previous caller. I mean, he has a lot of
interesting things to say, but he says them so fast
and so emphatically. I couldn't follow what his general Uh
does he have a general point, David? I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
You're talking about wil from Long Island, right.
Speaker 11 (22:20):
Yes, does he have a general point? I mean, yeah, he's.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
He's pretty, he's pretty skeptical of a lot. You know,
I had an issue with you know, he for some
reason brought up this this stupid right wing idea of
the white replacement theory, which goes back to the to
that horrible scene done in in Virginia many years ago.
(22:46):
I just think that that is counterproductive. I mean, let
the other side be divisive. Let's talk about unity, Let's
talk about how all of us talk about the issues
that That's what drives me.
Speaker 11 (23:00):
Know you, I agree with you, and I hope and pray,
But I don't know if he's going to do it.
That Donald Trump will just talk about the issues with
his opponent. And because she's so far left that I
think if you just go by what she says, I
(23:23):
think a lot of Americans will see that this is
really not the way we want to go forward in
this country.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Well, the funny thing about it was that when she
ran for president in the run up to twenty twenty,
she had no support, absolutely no support, and she was
the first in in the first out. She didn't make
it past the Iowa didn't make it to the Iowa caucus.
Speaker 11 (23:48):
Right, I don't know if we can. Well, you know, Dan,
I have to say, I don't like the term replacement theory.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
It's ridiculous. It's a ridiculous I.
Speaker 11 (23:58):
Do believe at the left definitely wants to change the
demography in this country, and I believe they one of
the reasons they do it are the primary reason they
do it, is because they know that our constitution was founded,
was written determined by white Anglo Saxon men, and they
(24:22):
and I think that they feel that other ethnic groups
and whatnot really do not bide, do not by the
principles of our constitution.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
Well, I'll tell you I think she's dead wrong on that,
and I'll tell you why. Okay, I think, but the
Left wants to divide this country between is people who
work hard, go to work every day, and are interested
in pursuing the American dream, interested in improving the lot
of their families, their lot and all of that and people.
They want more people here who depended upon the government.
(24:57):
That's what they want, that is.
Speaker 10 (24:59):
No question, just matter.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
It doesn't matter what their skin color is, what their
ethnic background is. They want people who are dependent upon
them so that they can pass another program that doesn't
help those people. Those people languish in poverty, they're not
helped at any point. The same people who were in
poverty ten years ago for the most part of poverty today.
And when people get out of poverty, they say to themselves, Hey,
(25:22):
this idea of freedom and a free market, that's a
pretty good deal. You know. It allowed me to start
a business and now I'm I'm the boss and I'm
employing twenty people.
Speaker 11 (25:31):
Well, I think people like Kamala Harris and Elizabeth Warren,
free enterprise to them is anathema.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Yeah, well again, they certainly don't believe in it. You
have you know, I mean Warren of all, I mean
she's a socialist. They look at socialist countries around the
world is what we should become. That's what they want
us to become. And that's not what we ever have been.
(25:59):
We have. They do not look at America as an
exceptional country. We're exceptional not because of our geography, but
because of the economic system that offers people an opportunity
to improve their lot in life.
Speaker 11 (26:11):
Right. But Dan, you know one thing that that fellow
said and that I kind of agree with, is that
part of the reason for that is the demographics and
the demographics produced are constitution. And if they can change
the demographics, they can completely overwhelm the Constitution, like what
(26:34):
they're trying to do with the Supreme Court. That means individuals.
That means hard work, Yes, that means a certain amount
of religiosity, moral rectitude. These are things that again I
think they find anethma.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
But I think that people of all backgrounds, I mean,
you do not have more fundamentally religious peace people than
African Americans in America. The average African American spends a
hell of a lot more time in church than the
average white suburban couple. The average Hispanic spends a heck
of a lot more time in organized in an organized religion.
(27:14):
I'm just telling you that that people evolve, it's it's
freedom that they don't like. They don't I.
Speaker 11 (27:21):
Think I don't think any of like, if you look
at South America, there's no way that our constitution would
have come out of South America. There's no way it
would have come out of Asia, there's no way that
it would come out of Africa.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
But there's a lot of people out of those countries
who by hook up by crook, want to get here
to take advantage of.
Speaker 11 (27:37):
Our and they want that and they respect our constitution.
I agree with you, but I think the left looks
that if they can change the demography and.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
Can I get one.
Speaker 11 (27:47):
Last you know, I think one thing that's going to
be unfairly critical of Kamala Harris is my guess is
that her stance on marijuana in calif when she supposedly
was so strict and enforcing the law, is that she
was going after marijuana simply because you know, it's people
(28:11):
plead down to marijuana. That she was actually going after
real criminality, and you know, she wasn't really going after
the marijuana. I mean, very few people in the United
States and last twenty years have really spent time in
jail for marijuana less it's large, large quantities most of
the time.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
And we're talking, we're talking about her time in early nineties,
in the early two thousands and My understanding is that
she was throwing the book at people if you got
caught up. And again, I'm not a marijuana guy.
Speaker 11 (28:42):
Okay, no, I know that neither.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
However, however, she apparently was laughing when I think it
was she was on with I forget which national talk
show host, and he raised the He raised the issue
with her might have been Chelomie to God who raised
the issue with her about putting black men in jail
for minor drug offenses. And he asked her, and you
(29:08):
you you must have smoked pots. I did. Yeah.
Speaker 11 (29:11):
I don't think Dan, those guys are going to jail
from minor product expent. I think they were pleading down
to a minor plot pod ex pod. I think they
were committing other crimes. But they the state decided, well,
we can get them on marijuana. He's you're still given that.
Speaker 1 (29:26):
Yeah, well okay, we can. We can agree to disagree
with that. When Steve Arire, thank you very much, Thank
you much, Steve from Cambridge. We will be right back
on nightside. We got a couple of open lines at
six one seven uh six one seven ninety. That'll get
you right in the door and we will talk about
this into the next hour if you want, and if not,
we have another topic or two which we can get
(29:49):
to again. You decide, but you got to light the
lines up if you want to continue to talk about
this back on Nightside after this.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Now back to Dan Ray live from the the World
night Side Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Back we go. Let's go to Tom and Rossendale. Tom
next on the Nightside, Go right ahead.
Speaker 12 (30:09):
Hi, Dan, Tom. Earlier in the conversation, you mentioned that
Jen Sackey was speaking on behalf of the White House.
But she doesn't work for the White House anymore, so
I didn't say.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
I didn't say she was speaking in behalf of the
White House. I said she used to be the press
secretary at the White House.
Speaker 10 (30:26):
Oh okay, I thought I thought you were.
Speaker 12 (30:29):
Saying that she spoke on behalf of the White House
and was calling him a weirdo and that.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
But she's at she's a political operator, just as as
some Republicans used to be, you know, white House press secretaries.
She's she obviously has a has a point which she
could have, so no, the democratic governors have a point
of view. But I did not say she was speaking
on behalf. I said that she's a former spokesperson for
the White House.
Speaker 10 (30:53):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 12 (30:55):
And when you were speaking about Elizabeth Warren saying that,
did you say that she wanted to get eleven million
people in here before the election?
Speaker 1 (31:03):
No, what I said was what I said was that
there are eleven million people who have come in in
the last three and a half years. That's one of
the estimates. And she used the figure that we have
to do, you know, all of this immigration reform, including
getting those eleven people on the pathway to citizenship. And
(31:24):
I said, I'm sure it would be her dream to
have them made citizens before this election, but that's not
going to happen that quickly.
Speaker 12 (31:30):
No, of course not.
Speaker 1 (31:33):
But still the point is the point she wants to reward.
The point is trying to make tom if I, and
I'd love to get your reaction to it, was that
she wants to reward people who have come here in
defiance of our immigration rules, as opposed to awarding the
p I would rather take the first eleven million people
who are in line and have have filed you know,
(31:54):
legitimate requests to come here consistent with our rate, with
our immigration rules. I'd rather make them citizens before people.
Speaker 12 (32:04):
Will come here legally first in line. I agree with
you one, But can I ask you, if you were
to vote for tomorrow, would you vote for Donald J.
Speaker 10 (32:14):
Trump?
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Well, first of all, I've never voted. I haven't voted
in the last two elections. I don't know if either
one of these candidates. I had a couple of opportunities
to vote for Trump, I chose not to. I didn't
vote for Biden. I didn't vote for Hillary either. And
I had said before when when President Biden was still
a candidate, that I'd seen the movie before and they
(32:37):
didn't like the way it ended. And I'm not impressed
by Kamala Harris either. You know, I'm impressed by some
of the Democratic governors that are out there from what
I hear about them. But but I think if if
you think Joe Biden was was was rule by a
(33:01):
bunch of progressors, If you like the way things have
gone to this country in the last four years, be
sure to vote for Kamala Harris because they'll only get worse.
Speaker 12 (33:10):
And you were saying that she's the immaculate nomination, the
immaculate she hasn't been nominated yet.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Do you have any doubt that she's going to be
the nominee. Matter of fact, should be the nominee before
the convention. That's even better, should be the nominee nominee
by August seventh. That's the timetable, that's the schedule. She
was selected by the Grand poobas of the Democratic Party
and by the money class and the Democratic Party. All
those fourteen million people went to the polls in Iowa
(33:41):
and New Hampshire and other states that voted for Joe Biden.
Speaker 10 (33:46):
But she has not been nominated yet.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Well, you know what, you're right, You're absolutely right, you're
absolutely And let me tell you something else. The election
which is scheduled, well, well, it will be the immaculate
nomination when she's nominated, because she will be nominated without
in my I'm going to predict, you know what else
you're going to predict, Tom, I'm going to predict that
the Democratic nominee is going to carry Massachusetts in November.
(34:11):
You can you can mark that one up on the board. Okay,
there's something on that. Yeah, yeah, And I'm going out
on the limb in terms of the immaculate nomination as well.
Thanks Tom gott to run, appreciate it. Let me get
one more in here if I can before the break, Okay,
and we're gonna go to Eileen in Waltham. Hi, Eileen,
how are you good?
Speaker 13 (34:29):
Thanks Dan? And how are you to deceave me?
Speaker 1 (34:31):
I'm a little tight on time, and I don't want
you to have to wait through the news.
Speaker 13 (34:33):
Go ahead, I question no quick statement I read today
before I saw Elizabeth Warren's statement, that's forty percent of
the people in Massachusetts. Twenty one percent of the people
in Massachusetts do not speak English.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
I don't know that to be true. I did not
know that to be false, but.
Speaker 13 (34:53):
It was you know, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 1 (34:55):
Well, we have I will tell you this. We have.
We have about seven million people at this point in Massa.
I think it's six point eight but let's say seven million,
so forty percent of that would be almost three million,
about two point eight million people. No. Now, maybe they
mean English is not their first language. But there's a
lot of people.
Speaker 13 (35:12):
Who speaking No, no, they don't speak English. And I
know I have a business with Elgrit yep and more
than forty percent of the people and ever don't speak English.
Well over half the people that I run into.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Well, I mean that certainly should qualify them to be
able to vote, don't you think, and become citizens.
Speaker 13 (35:30):
Yeah, but no, but about twenty percent nationwide. Guess what
there were no non speaking people at Martha's Vinion, or
in Wellesley or in very few and Cambridge.
Speaker 1 (35:43):
Yeah no, I know that, well, I know that. Yeah. Fact,
the good people at Martha's Vineyard made sure when those
folks landed on that plane they were given some sandwiches
and some T shirts and maybe a hat or two
and put on the bus the next day off the
island water. All right, I lean, I think you made
(36:04):
your point. You made it really.
Speaker 13 (36:05):
Well interesting combination when I saw the two of them together.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Thanks Eilean. Talk again. I'll give you more time next time.
But you don't have to wait to Linus and Mark.
You stay there, you'll be first up. If not, if
you're not there, folks six, one, seven, two, five, four, ten, thirty,
we'll carry this for a while. We're going to also
switch topics a little bit later on tonight and talk
about that Olympics opening ceremony which caused so much controversy.
(36:30):
But we'll continue for a while on this again. You
decide what we want to talk about. Coming back one
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