Full Show Podcast: 10 August 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 2 (00:30):
Hello there you, good afternoon, and welcome into Weekend Sport
on News Talks. He'd be the Sunday edition for August tenth,
Happy birthday to Mighty Williams. Today he'll be in Argentina,
obviously with the all Black. So I'm Jason Pine. We're
here talking sport until three o'clock this afternoon. Wanted to
start though with an acknowledgment of the news that you
heard in our news at midday that two times Sailor

(00:52):
of the Year, former America's Cup tactician and extremely accomplished
TV sailing analyst Peter Lester passed away on Friday night
after suffering a heart attack a week earlier. Hugely successed
for career on the water, global triumphs and various boat classes,
three America's Cup campaigns, and then Peter Leicester became a

(01:16):
very popular expert voice on the sport of sailing, especially
with the America's Cup. Going to pay tribute after two
o'clock this afternoon with PJ Montgomery. Our thoughts and best
wishes with the friends and family of Peter Lester, one
of the greats of the sport of sailing on and
off the water. The Warriors have dropped out of the

(01:37):
NRL's top four for the first time since mid April,
but it's.

Speaker 3 (01:41):
A convincing one to Canterbury feeding the Warriors by thirty
two points to.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Forty a very deflating night and a rain soaked and
sopping wet Sydney last night going down to the Bulldogs.
What I unpacked this with you and maybe not so
much last night, although we can dissect that. But the
next four games, the last four games of the regular season.
Are the Warriors still a top four propers d and
perhaps as importantly now, are they still a top eight side?

(02:11):
It seems a remarkable question to be asking given the
season I've had, But that is three straight defeats now
five losses in the last seven, and the table doesn't lie.
The Roosters, who are ninth, are just four points back
now four games to go, so eight points still up
for grabs. It would be such an enormous shame, wouldn't

(02:32):
it if the Warriors get dragged into a battle to
even make the top eight. Jake Juke out of Fox
Sports in a moment. Some postgame thoughts from Andrew Webster
as well. It is your thoughts though and your analysis.
I'm keenest on lines open immediately and all hours are
all our, rather not all ours might be all ours,
but all this hour anyway on the Warriors. Other matters

(02:52):
around today. New Zealand rugby CEO Mark Robinson after one
chatting a range of issues from eligibility, the return of
Richie Moringer and the impending threat of rugby. Three to
sixty Black Ferns lose for Georgia Miller's on the show,
head of the teams to departure for the Rugby World Cup.
Flynn Cameron out of the tour Blacks after their third
straight win at basketball's Asian Cup this morning and a

(03:14):
very convincing when it was too, a forty point winning
margin of a Chinese Taipei. So what did they like
most about that? Going to break down the black Caps
demolition of Zimbabwe as well and ask what was really
achieved there going over there and playing what really amounted
to nothing more than a club site up against the

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black Caps James mcconi in his regular slot as well,
but a live sport around this afternoon two. Round one
of the Farrah Palmer Cup continues, Counties Mancow making absolutely
no race of it against Bay of Plenty in Pokacoe
at the moment thirty five minutes gone. The home side
Counties thirty eight nil ahead. Canterbury up against Munawatu in

(03:55):
christ Church from five past one, and the Buddings MPC
continues as well. Round two action Counties Mancow hosting Bay
of Plenty. That's the second game at Pocacuey from around
five past two. The show is yours to participate in.
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Speaker 1 (04:23):
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Speaker 2 (04:34):
The Warriors will end Round twenty three of the NRL
outside the top four after a thirty two to fourteen
defeat at the hands of the Bulldogs in Sydney last night.

Speaker 4 (04:44):
Mary to king On for Hayward's outfronic Alvins that ball
of caress has done it again. Pass it to.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Caress his hands.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Then you can take out one.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Trendis he said. He's the hands of.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
A surgeon, the hands of surgeon. Indeed a convincing when
by the Bulldogs last night in very difficult conditions. Jake
Duke was on sideline commentary Your bull Bugger for Fox
last night. Have you dried out yet?

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Mate?

Speaker 6 (05:20):
I had to paddle home in my boat, Jase. It
was a tough one on the sideline last night, and
I got drenched the night before in Newcastle as well,
so I'm not having a good run. But in the
studio today for Fox League, so thankfully I will stay dry.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
Good stuff last night?

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Did the score line reflect the game?

Speaker 5 (05:41):
It's an interesting one, look it was.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
It can't even recall because I was just so busy
trying to stay dry in that monsoon or conditions. But look,
you just have to think that the loss of Tomato
Martin early in that game just really threw the Warriors.
Obviously he copped a category one ha.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
So you lose your.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
Half back who's just come in to replace Tannaboid already
lost Luke Metcalfe.

Speaker 5 (06:07):
You know, it's just a.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
Lot to overcome for the Warriors in terms of cohesion
in attack and Chanelle.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
Harris Tavita was out last week back last night.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
And I just think that you can see in their
attack last night it was just a bit shot after that,
and in those conditions, the Bulldogs kind of warmed down
and completed really well, just controlled field position and then
they're a good side and so they just piled on
the points. It's probably, you know, probably not an accurate
reflection of where the two teams are probably at.

Speaker 5 (06:38):
But the Warriors at.

Speaker 6 (06:39):
The moment just kind of in a bit of in
a bit of a slide, as I said, with all
those injuries and back to back losses at home and
now outside the top four, as you said, So look
it's it's tough, but there's still what four games to go,
so you know, you can you can write the ship
and kind of get things going, but they just got
to keep some players on the field.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Well that's said, doesn't it, Jake. You know, injuries have
been an absolute killer. The list was long anyway before
to Mighty Martin went down last night Like you don't
want to make excuses, right because rugby league is a
game where injuries are effective life. But is it in
some ways an explanation at least for what's going on
at the Warriors right now?

Speaker 6 (07:19):
Yeah, of course, Like you don't lose quality players like
as I said, look at Luke Metcalfe, a Mitch Barnett obviously.

Speaker 5 (07:27):
James Fisher.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Harris has missed some time as well, Like, you don't
lose quality players like that, and you know, things just
work for you. We've seen some teams have some really
bad injury tolls across the season, but I think the Warriors,
of all the teams that were kind of in that
race for the premiership, they've probably been hit hardest, losing
you know, key spine players and rep forwards and as

(07:51):
I said, even backup halves. Now, so yeah, they probably
had the toughest run.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
The Warriors. You've got to feel for them.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
Because it was shaping is a really promising season and
a kind of real surprise season when you know, not
many people gave them a chance at the start of
the year when they had guys like Shaw Johnson retire
and then Toho Harris retire on the on the beginning
of it, right before the beginning of the season. So
they've done fantastically well, and as I said, it's not
over yet. You've got to regroup and find your kind

(08:18):
of rhythm and how it looks with those new guys
in those new positions obviously won't help. Now the Tomato
mut and he'll be a Category one, so he'll be
ruled out for their class against the Dragons on Friday,
I think it is. So yeah, you've got to get
a regroup and maybe recall Tannaboyd, Chanelle Harris Devita there

(08:39):
and maybe just get some direction right now.

Speaker 2 (08:44):
The conditions were terrible, but the Bulldogs were good. Went
they were What did you make of their performance?

Speaker 5 (08:48):
Yeah, the Bulldogs were really good.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
I think they've obviously had a bit of a rocket
up them since that disappointing loss to the Tigers, and
they said postgame that there's been a lot of talk
about people saying, oh, the Dogs can't play in a
wet because they've had a few probably shock upsets losses
this season in the wet. They got plumped by Brisbane
earlier in the year, and the Dolphins got him in
the wet, and then last week the Tigers got him

(09:11):
in the wet. So I think it was a real
concerted effort from them to kind of come out and
play really strong wet weather football.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
You could see that they.

Speaker 6 (09:18):
Can kind of control field position really well, completed really high.
Matt Burtons kicking game was unbelievable. That forty twenty kicked
off and offload from the twenty and it basically went
out on their ten like it was just one of
the probably the best forty twenties I've ever seen snap decisions.
So they just, yeah, they just controlled everything from the
get go. But as I said, you know, with the Warriors,

(09:41):
I don't think they recovered from the fact that they
lost to morrow Mount and as we said, they're not.
They haven't been in good form and that doesn't help
when that happened.

Speaker 5 (09:49):
Straight away.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
We've been looking over the last month or so at
the pack behind the Warriors closing and on the top
four as we sit here today, Jake, they're on thirty points.
The Roosters, who are ninth, are on twenty six. The
Warriors couldn't fall out of the top eight, could they.

Speaker 5 (10:06):
Look, obviously, it's possible. It is a bit of a
log gem there and some.

Speaker 6 (10:11):
Of those teams like Cronulla and stuff have still got
to buy to come and we saw last night the
Roosters really put a really big advantage in therefore and
against beating the Dolphins. Wife I think it was sixty
odd by the end of at the end, I didn't
catch the end of the score. But yeah, there is
some teams right there in that pack. But you look
at Brisbane now that their injuries as well, considering Ezra

(10:33):
mam gorn So and Combo injured and then Adam Reynolds
as well, so they've got some injury concerns. As I said,
the Sharks in and there it'sabouts and they've got to
buy it their sleeve.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
They've got a bit of a softer run home.

Speaker 6 (10:47):
The Dragons have put two together that most people probably
think they're out of contention, but if they keep.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
Winning, they're still technically alive.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
And then the Dolphins like after last night's lost, where
does that leave them? So it's a bit of a
mixed back in that kind of chasing pack behind the wise,
and I think it's just probably a few teams who's
going to get it right over the next three or
four weeks.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
That's indeed, And as you say, it feels like the
top four is the top four now I don't know, Raiders, storm, dogs, Panthers.
That seems like that is the top four with the
others now scrapping away. So dragons, as you say, coming
to go medium ount smart on Friday night, How would
you be structuring the week if you're Andrew Webster.

Speaker 5 (11:25):
Oh, look, I.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Think first of all, you've got to just settle on
your halves straight away. They've obviously got a bit of
a quick turnaround. Got to get home today and then
play Friday, I said. I imagine they won't train too much,
probably only one field session, one major one and a
captain's run. So yeah, you've just got to settle on
your halves. I think it'd be interesting to see what

(11:46):
they go with Wade Egan is. Andrew Webster said last
week that the you know it's wear and tear on
that shoulder. It's not like something he needs surgery on.
He just is a guy that makes forty tackles a game.
So he's had the ac joint in issues. So he said,
it's kind of a week to week prospects. So see
what happens there. At Young Sam he played well and

(12:08):
then obviously James Fisher Harris was back last night. Having
him back for another week probably a big boost. But yeah,
it's interesting to see what they do.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
With the halves.

Speaker 6 (12:20):
I think you've probably got to recall Tannaboyd and just
go from there.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Again, the Panthers are going to win this again. They're
going to win it again.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
They are.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
It's a very very real possibility.

Speaker 6 (12:32):
Look, as you said, they're into the top four now
and I don't see them kind of relinquishing that spot.
Although I do think they do have some hard games.
I think they've got to play Canberra and I think
they've got to play Melbourne. I could be wrong about that,
but I think they do have two hard games and
they run home.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
You know you did, you did right both of those?

Speaker 8 (12:52):
Ye?

Speaker 7 (12:52):
Yep?

Speaker 2 (12:53):
And the Bulldogs and the Bulldogs Bulldog Yeah, so there
you go.

Speaker 5 (12:56):
Yes, So they've got some hard games, so you never know.
But as I said, the.

Speaker 6 (13:01):
Guys high and them kind of keep falling away a
little bit with the team kind of.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
Chasing that pack.

Speaker 6 (13:07):
And obviously the Broncos have got injuries now and the
Warriors got injuries, so there is still an opportunity to
grab that full spot back because Penders will have some
tough games and who knows what kind of effect that
has on them. You know, like they're battling that hard
to make the four, they've got to play some tough teams.
Will that affect them come finals? Because you know a

(13:28):
lot of these guys have had big seasons already, they've
played Origin and now they've had to fight so hard
and win nine or ten straight. I think it's nine
straight to get to this point. Now they've got to
stay there. Then you've got to play finals. Like by
the time Pendrath get to a Grand Final, it's going
to be probably fifteen sixteen weeks of hard football where
they've been up.

Speaker 5 (13:48):
So it's a big arc and I think that's where.

Speaker 6 (13:52):
You know, this will be the test of their they
you know, they've passed the test many times of their
championship medal, but this is another one right, can you
win it? When things haven't gone your way and you've
had to just keep winning NonStop all the way through.
You haven't had the option to rest players like they've
had in previously years.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
You haven't had the.

Speaker 6 (14:11):
Chance to kind of have things your own way. But
you know, champion team finds finds way to do it.
So who knows.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Intriguing final month of the regular season and coming before
the finals. Jake, enjoy the warmth and comfort of the
Fox studio this afternoon. Mate, Thanks for your time today
on ZIV.

Speaker 5 (14:29):
I certainly will thanks, Jase, appreciate it now.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
I appreciate your time, Jake, Jake Juke there familiar voice
to rugby league audiences on this side of the Tasman
part of the Fox Sport team sideline there last night. Right,
let's unpack this, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Firstly,
can someone please give the Warriors injury ward a break?
As I said to Jake, the list was long anyway.

(14:51):
Add to Mardy Martin to that he's definitely out next
week with a category one like Ahalasima and Kurt Capewell
left the field for HIA assessments last night. Thankfully, we're
able to both come back on. I just hope the
Cavalry are back in time. Wade Egan. You know when
he's not there, just a different team, aren't they. He
looks like he might be in contention next week from
what we're hearing with that shoulder. As I said yesterday,

(15:13):
Rock o'berry Alilatawa might also be back soon. But I
mean when you lose your playmaker as the Warriors did
last night with Timarti Martin and what the twenty third minute,
things just changed completely and the adjustment was too hard
for them to make. The Bulldogs were great. Look, let's
not take anything away from them. They were very good.

(15:33):
And Andrew Webster said afterwards, actually they were their own
worst enemies in many ways the Warriors. So just an
unhappy night on what was a dreadful evening in Sydney.
So now the Warriors still a top four side. Well,
the maths would say yes, they can still be. There
are still eight points to play for common sense and

(15:54):
gup Fiel though now says no, it's just starting to
feel to me and you might have a view on this,
like the top four now are the top four Raiders
Storm Bulldogs Panthers, all sides in good form at the
right time of the season. Warriors fifth now and there
through these last set of results, five defeats in their

(16:16):
last seven, they've been drawn into a top eight dog fight.
Now they're fifth on thirty Broncos twenty eight, Sharks twenty eight,
Dolphins twenty six, and the ninth place Roosters also on
twenty six. Now hugely impressive. Last night putting sixty odd
on the Dolphins to draw level with them on points
four games to go. Last night was a massive game.

(16:40):
As I said about twenty four hours ago, for the
top four hopes of the Warriors, that feels now like
it ain't gonna happen This coming Friday at home against
the Dragons is now massive four the top eight. Let's
get into it. Takes some calls.

Speaker 9 (16:57):
Hello, Bruce, Yeah, Hi Piney, how are you Mane?

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I'm okay, Bruce, I'm okay.

Speaker 9 (17:03):
Yeah. My handkerchiefs absolutely so. After the rotching last night,
And it wasn't the rain, it was the tears coming
down the face were there, but yeah, I mean it
wasn't to any lack of lack of effort. But you know,
with these injuries, they've just it's dest the whole sort

(17:27):
of cohesion of the side. But do you know what
happened over Boyd? What was the story with him not
starving in the hearts?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Andrew Webster said that Tomighty Martin earned his place during
the week. You know, obviously they name a team on
the on the Tuesday, don't they, which is a long
way out and they're quite and then the rights to
change it. Yeah, Andrew Webster said afterwards, Timmighty earned his place.
But obviously it'll you know, they'll go back to Tanner
Boyd And I have to give it to Andrew Webster.
He said last night that you know, Tanner board was

(17:55):
very good in the new Southwest Cup Cup side and
he will come straight back in, you know, and presumably
he'll he'll partner Chanelle Harris Tavita in the in the
halves again as they had done for two or three
games previously. But yeah, that was the situation, just a
form decision.

Speaker 9 (18:15):
Yeah. But one thing I want to bring up was
it seems to be a really strange thing in the
league at the moment, you know, like in the it
was in about the first ten minutes and I can't
remember the Worri this guy that got hit, but he
got hit with a straight out shoulder charge to the
head and had to go off for you know, for

(18:39):
a head assessment, which is a minimum fifteen minutes anyway,
and the guy who actually hit him and it was
blatant is put on report but stays on the field.
So we lose a player. He just the guy who
does it just keeps on carrying on to change rule.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, it's one down, isn't it from the ten of
the bin. It's not serious enough to be sent to
the bin straight away. It is serious enough to be
looked at, you know, in hindsight, and will be looked at.
I think was the one on Helisima that you're talking about, Bruce.

Speaker 9 (19:13):
Yeah, yeah, pretty serious to me. I've taken a few
head highs. I know what they're like, but too many,
which is why I'm but strange, not at all.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
You're very lucid, very lucid, Bruce.

Speaker 9 (19:28):
Thanks mate, But yeah, yeah, I just thought it was
a serious one, that one.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Indeed. Hey, good to chatty you. Bruce has always love
chatting ragby league with your call back anytime mate on
text here mate, one more win. They're locked into the playoffs,
simple as that at thirty two points, it'll do well.
Mass would say no, but I know what you're saying.
I know what you're saying. It's unlikely, you know, especially
given the results at the moment, that everybody below them
is going to win every game. So yeah, thirty two
points may be enough. And the text goes on to say,

(19:54):
the icing on the cake is to finish fifth or
sixth for a home playoff. Correct, that is what we're
after here, a top Now that the top four, I
think we can all look, we'd love them to be
in the four, but we can all now probably say, well,
the very least, it's out of the Warrior's hands. They
they even if they were to win their last four games,
that might not be enough to make the top four.

(20:15):
So let's talk about five through eight, perhaps as a
more realistic proposition, and trying to finish as high up
in the five to eight bracket as possible. As the
text says, five and six get a home playoff with
the amount of injuries it finishes, it's not their fault
they're out of the top four. No, the injuries are
a huge part of the explanation for where they are

(20:37):
one hundred and eighty ten eighty our number lyle home mate.

Speaker 10 (20:41):
Yeah, thank congratulations from the bull.

Speaker 11 (20:43):
Go on so play.

Speaker 10 (20:44):
You're just superbly and you're all right. You cannot stand
that club or tectors of the support base. But we
won't get political. But the steps lie the Warriors thirty
three tattles. I thought tenor boys would have been demanded
to play in those positions to be put of the way.
His kicking gamer is that I'm not usually one of

(21:08):
the prescribed to recring bias, but that first tried the
dog spot. If that wasn't a double movement, I don't
know what was despite the weather, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
They said, was boss on commentsary last night said you,
I'm not too sure because yeah, he he sort of
had to turn his body, didn't he to get it down,
which which looked you know, if it had been called
a double movement, I'm not sure there would have been
too many complaints.

Speaker 10 (21:33):
And yeah, well Eagans once a week before also the
Warriors got done for tackling of fail without the fall
and it definitely was a shepherd. And then that the
last thing, probably Fisher Harris getting up and pushing Crichton
and they got penalized for that. The Shepherds in every playable.
You know, I'm really going to wonder sometimes when Canterbury's

(21:55):
involved as the game. They sponsor banks Town Kebabs and
they gave the award based on ground to the official room.
Having said that the Warrior is Yeah, well they should
make the eight. But I don't know about fifteen and
six having home games. I thought only the top four hit.

Speaker 12 (22:16):
The home game.

Speaker 10 (22:17):
I may be wrong there.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Yeah, no five five to eight bracket. Yeah, the five
to eight brackets a straight knockout. So five plays eight,
six plays seven with the with the winners going through. Yeah,
the top four playoff in a similar fashion, but if
you lose in the top four you get the extra life.

Speaker 10 (22:33):
Look like I said to you before that, it's like
the Mountourn Cup. They've turned for home. They're in the
league back, but they're fading badly. The problem now, I
think three lots is it's going to start to become
a confidence thing, you know, a mental thing. They've had
a shocking room of injuries. But bear in mind South
Sydney they've got eight million high right, eight million dollars

(22:56):
with the sideline on the seventeen that we should be
taking the field fourteen or on the sideline. But yeah, look,
hopefully they can produce something and fillage high and go
out with.

Speaker 5 (23:13):
A good effort.

Speaker 10 (23:14):
But it's not going to be this year. Perhaps twenty
seven for the better run on injuries.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yeah, indeed, loll look yeah, look they're there, right, they're
there thereabouts. If they make the ad, it's better than
last year. And I think most people going into this
year off the back of last year would said if
you'd offered them top eight at the start of the season,
they would have bit in your handle for it. Unfortunately,
we've been conditioned to the success of the Warriors, and
I've lived in the top four since April. Now they're

(23:41):
dropping out of it, and you can't help but feel
disappointed at what might have been injuries. Yes, huge part
of it, massive part of it. Can't be discounted as
as an explanation for what's happened. Only one thing in
the Warrior's favor, says Jamie, is the Panthers have a
tougher drawer. They have to play Storm, Bulldogs and Raiders. Correct,
But I look at I look at the Panthers, Jamie,

(24:04):
what are they want? Nine in a row incredible team.
Half past twelve. We'll take a break spear line there
if you want to jump aboard at one hundred and
eighty ten eighty, they're filling up fast. Get your point across.
On the Warriors. We're talking about them until one back
in the.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
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Speaker 2 (24:26):
Twenty six to one talking Warriors. Could I ben.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
Funny? How are you very very good?

Speaker 2 (24:33):
Being very good?

Speaker 5 (24:33):
Mate?

Speaker 12 (24:36):
Yeah, that's the words.

Speaker 13 (24:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (24:39):
I was absolutely rapped with the last night's performance. Just
dominated the Doggies both first half, second half and absolutely
smacked them.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I know what you're doing. I know what you're doing, mate.
You're talking about the early You're talking about the early game.

Speaker 12 (24:56):
You know, no looks Yeah, Tyra Tyra away today we
water machine.

Speaker 13 (25:04):
What a talent.

Speaker 12 (25:06):
Yeah No, I was just absolutely blowing away.

Speaker 14 (25:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (25:09):
I watched the Woman's Now Tiny.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
They were so good last night. Being honestly, I watched
that game too. I was so impressed with them. I
thought they were terrific.

Speaker 13 (25:19):
Man.

Speaker 12 (25:20):
I just think you know there was the injuries for
the first two games. But I think that game they
they didn't really get there early enough, you know, and
climatize and localize and all that and get over the
jet leg. Because last night I was watching their game
and Georsy in there. I started getting a bit tired
and I fell asleep Georsy, So I think they Yeah,

(25:45):
they didn't really do that thing with the body cloth,
you know, they got a bit tired.

Speaker 13 (25:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Look, I the woman was great, the woman great. What
about the men though? Man, what did you take from that?

Speaker 12 (25:58):
I'm going to keep the faith, as I have done
for since day one. But yeah, look, I'm you know,
things can happen, and it just takes another team to
lose and have a bad day and we're back in it.
So at hey, we've seen them do all sorts of

(26:19):
surprises all the time, and I think they can turn
it around by ye winning all the games here and
another team loses as well. We'd so keep the faith.
But yeah, just next time, I think, get there earlier
or yet. Tira on the wing.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
I love it, Ben the women. Actually, next two weekends
are in Hamilton. They got the Raiders Saturday and then
the following Sunday, the Sharks worth going along to see
those of you in the White cuttle and even those
of you who are in driving distance. They were tremendous
last night. And the wet was as wet in the
women's game as it was and the men's I thought

(26:56):
they were just terrific. Paul, level headed analysis from you,
please mate?

Speaker 15 (27:04):
Well you know, yeah, I want to read is the
last guy comment? You know, can we keep the face?
And of course bony, but you know, if you had
us said to me after last year we finished through things,
then if you had us said to me this year that,
you know, especially after losing Fillerwell Blake and Tahu Harris
and Shawn Johnson's retirement, that we would be fourth after

(27:28):
round twenty three, you know, I probably would have laughed
at you, you know, after the last year's performance. You know,
the whole the could hard reality is, yes, we've got
I think eight or nine t injuries out. It's it's
a it's a funny. And the teams that can go
through the season keeping your full team or you know,
minimal injuries through the competition is the teams are the

(27:51):
teams that will will you be there or there about
to the end. So unfortunately that's not us. But you know,
to be in to make the eighth, we keep the
face and you know we've got Saint George and we've
got the eels. It's just a tough competition, you know.
I mean, honestly, Pony. You know, there's some of the
upsets I've seen recently, and he just can't.

Speaker 13 (28:13):
Pigot this year. It's just so hard.

Speaker 15 (28:15):
I mean, it's yeah, we should beat the we should
beat Saint George. But look what Saint George did to
the Sharksys today.

Speaker 13 (28:21):
I mean, yeah, it's just.

Speaker 4 (28:25):
It's a tough, tough competition, Ponnie.

Speaker 15 (28:27):
But you know, we keep the faith, mate, like I said,
and we'll be there, you know, with a sold out
crowd on Friday. Next Friday was against Saint George, and
we'll begin we'll be riding the boards all the way.

Speaker 13 (28:39):
Mate.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
What did you think of the decision to bring in
to Mighty Martin and also Freddy Lussk earlier in the week, obviously,
Tanner Boyd and and Sam Healey were named in those positions.
What did you make of those changes?

Speaker 15 (28:58):
I was actually quite surprised then, and boy hasn't really
really owned a seven jersey. It was a dry track,
I probably would have been okay with it. But because
ten of boy's got such a good kicking game, I
would have thought in the wet conditions, he's the guy
that you want to be there in the number seven,
you know, because of his a good long kicker, short kicker,

(29:23):
So you know I would have thought in the rain.
Yet ten of boys to go, I was very very surprised.
But you know there ZiT mean, now we're going to
see a young boy by the name McCleary come onto
the bench of it tonight. He's out, you know, and
you know he's been just clean it, you know, and
he's just saying, you know, if you if you're you're
good enough, you're old enough, and maybe it's just time
to come onto the bench and show what he's got.

(29:45):
But yeah, I mean, end of the day, poney. You
know it was Sydney pouring in with the rain against
the bulldogs who are flying at the moment. So you
know we just lock Calhound's mate and get behind the
boys next.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Week, love it, Paul, good on? Your mate? Is George
chadding to you that, well, we'll get it up again
next weekend. Absolutely, I take it easy. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty Yeah, the Dolphins, right, Dolphins beat
the Warriors last week, didn't they right at the end?
And then yesterday you see that Roosters put sixty four

(30:19):
on them, even the Broncos. I know it was against
the Storm. They lost the Sharks, as Paul just pointed out,
lost to the Dragons. I see yesterday that if results
went against us, we could be as low as seventh
after the weekend, and that is that was mathematical fact.
But the teams below us couldn't do the job for themselves.

(30:41):
There are any number of twists and turns left in
this season. Dragons home, Titans away, Eels home, see Eagles away?
Where have you got us finishing?

Speaker 7 (30:50):
Mark?

Speaker 13 (30:52):
Oh?

Speaker 11 (30:53):
My predictive fis last night I was actually as is
a low budget better. I was riding your tap was
a greggy that he had the Blues and not the
Blues opened to win by one to twelve, didn't they?

Speaker 13 (31:06):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I was watching that too, Mark, I was. I was
riding them home to for him four hundred marks. I know,
I know he couldn't got and then canvary those dastardly
Cantabrians scored in the last ten minutes and took it
away from them.

Speaker 11 (31:20):
Always second half of the Canary, isn't it here is
a hurricane? We know too much, too much.

Speaker 13 (31:25):
About that.

Speaker 11 (31:27):
Last night's game. I thought there were some terrible calls.
I thought, you know, obviously to Martin was injury affected it.
But I think the Dogs deserve to win. You know,
they had a fantastic kicking game and they just they
just screwed, screwed. The Warriors were their defense. I think
that was sort of acknowledged in the in the in
the postmatch to the conference. But you need have to

(31:49):
win the NRL competition and I don't I don't think
Town of Boyd. I mean, I don't like putting the
boot into players. You know, as you get older, you
don't a bit said. But I think Martin and Egan
are probably the key to success of the Warriors going forward.
You you really need that have or some playmakers to

(32:10):
be you know the difference, you know what I mean. Yeah,
any n R teams that win the competition without a
star number seven, number six, and I think that was
probably the key to you know, Melbourne success. They had
two absolutely probably two of the best hards in the game,
and they both could kick, and they both you know,

(32:30):
could be playmakers, and that was that was a huge
benefit to that team. That sort of accounted for their
success over the well pretty much a decade.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
I guess, well, you look at who was playing well
for us, sorry market, you look at who was playing
well for us during the that that you know, period
of really good success in the number seven Jersey, and
it was Luke Metcalf. You know, he was at the
top of the dally M when they when they took
a behind closed doors, he was. He was one of
the standout players in the comp. And I know he's

(32:59):
not there and you've got a legislate for injuries, but
in fact remains he was a huge part of the
Warrior's success in the in the early part of the season.

Speaker 11 (33:07):
Oh absolutely, I think you're completely right about that. And
I mean, obviously Barnett going was a big loss, but
I think Mitt Kalf was even a bigger loss. He's
really taken out. I mean, every alms going. How are
we going to replace Seawan Johnson? Well, Metcalf, who was
pretty much you know, in the past, was pretty much
I guess a Plotter. But you know it's to me

(33:27):
the Warriors are in good stead. You know, you look
at the reserve grade. They're completely blitzing their competition and
they're feeding their feeding. That's going to feed into the
inner oil for another two or three years. So I mean,
even if they don't finish well this year, you know
they've got a good future. I reckon.

Speaker 2 (33:42):
Yeah, I agree, Mark, good on your mate. Yeah, and
we're starting to see the spine of that that team
come through and play by the first grade. You know,
tag Dwopaki, Sam Healy or I thought was quite good
when he came on last night, you know, Tanner Boyd. Yeah,
but you wonder whether it's time for Jet Clary. You know,
it might it might be a hail Mary, and you
might just be checking a bloke in there because he's

(34:03):
got a good surname. But he's been playing well from
all account, Jack Clary, so maybe I don't know, maybe
you do give him a crack. But Luke Metcalf, I
don't think you can underestimate the impact he had on
the side, and I don't think anybody is either, because,
like I say, in the Dally M voting one, you
know they make it public up until a certain round
and I can't remember which round it is, but they

(34:24):
make it public up until a certain round. Luke Metcalf
was leading the dally M voting for the best player
in the comp so of course it's gonna be a
massive blow when you lose him six stight away from
one back. With more of your calls after this.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
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Speaker 2 (34:51):
They'd be thirteen to one to see the Warriors. New
South Wales Cupside won again yesterday thirty four to thirty
against the Bulldogs. They've played twenty one games one nineteen,
drawn one and lost one. It's an incredible record the
Warriors New South Wales cuptain. They're miles hit at the
top of the table. We'll take top seeding into the finals.
So there is another wave coming and a number of

(35:13):
those players have turned out in the first grade.

Speaker 5 (35:15):
Hey Greg, are you paying?

Speaker 4 (35:19):
All right? Greg?

Speaker 2 (35:19):
All right mate?

Speaker 7 (35:21):
Well it was this golden pointed or went to the Warriors.

Speaker 16 (35:23):
Wasn't.

Speaker 13 (35:25):
No, it was not.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
No, that prediction was incorrect.

Speaker 7 (35:31):
There's so much to unravel in that game, from inconsistency
from the referee, two injuries, to what players do we pick,
I mean, poxample the tan, avoid things. You know, he
came up first game, played a blinder and then could

(35:56):
sort of like continue it. It's like some of these
players need to be blooded, and well there's no easy games,
but need to be blooded a little bit more more
hand I think.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
I guess i'd say that happens to the New South
Wales Cup though I agree. I guess that's what they
say is look, play well in the you know, in
our reserve team effectively and and you'll you'll get the
call up. And so I think it had a pretty
good body of work in that New South Wales Cup
Cup side.

Speaker 7 (36:27):
Yeah, but then, like Andrew Webster says, not to worry
Martin deserved as has place. Well it's not like a
bit of a strange call to drop one guy you
just brought up and bring it another up into the bowl.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Yep, No, I agree at race to my brows and
race to my brows. That was just a second start
for the mighty Martin all season. So Yeah, no, it's
a good point.

Speaker 7 (36:52):
One thing I'd like to see them introduced is that
if you are involved with player goes off with the
main chia and then you actually go as well, because
you're losing a player for fifteen minutes through the actions
of another another player, and they should be disadvantaged to

(37:15):
the same effecture as what the actions of that player are.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
Yeah, I've heard that said as well. It's also sometimes
you extrapolate that out that if you cause somebody an injury,
you should be out for as long as they are.
I know, it's you know, it's well, it's it's yeah,
but I get the I get the I get the
the on field stuff during the game. Yeah, you're right.
It's as someone said her at the top of the show. Yeah,

(37:43):
guy goes off for a for an Hia is off
for ten minutes, You go on reports are really your
involvement in the current game is not affected at all.

Speaker 7 (37:53):
Yeah, And things like Bisher Harris pushing christ right is
exactly the same point. The ause mis Harris was much greater.

Speaker 13 (38:05):
So I'm over.

Speaker 7 (38:06):
But you know, those sort of halls in the heat
of the moment have affected the Warriors through a lot
of the year, the same with Jackson Ford playing well
this was last week playing the wall incorrectly and then
later in the game the opposition did executive the same thing.

(38:28):
But I don't I don't think we should give up
hope on it. If there a one yesterday, we'd be
talking about them in the top four, all right, So
they lost, so we're now talking about them in the
top eight. But there is still and I hate saying it,
there is still a mathematical chance.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Oh more than more than Yeah, yeah, there are only
there are only one point outside the top four. Yeah,
it's not not as though they're no, they haven't been
cut adrift. And as has been mentioned that the Panthers
run and even though they're absolutely killing it at the moment,
the Panthers have to play the other three in the
top four, So you know, that's tough.

Speaker 7 (39:10):
Where we talk about the Panthers, though they had won
four on the trot, so they've gotten that experience. Even
though they've lost a lot of players, they still have
a footprint to know how to win and win a championship.
I think the Warriors still having a cop then nutted
out completely.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
I agree, Greg, I agree. Hopefully they nutted out soon.
But you're right in terms of the maths of it all.
You know, we shouldn't catastrophize. And I didn't mean to
sound like I was doing that. It just doesn't feel
like they're a top four side right because of the
form slump that they're in and the better form of
those above them. But the maths would say they're one

(39:54):
point outside the top four.

Speaker 13 (39:56):
Now.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
They've lived inside the top four since April. They've only
just fallen out. Panthers have a tough running and the Warriors.
You know, you look at the Runner. They have dragons
at home, Titans away, Eels at home, see Eagles away.
Not a single side there in the top eight currently
seven to one talks he'd be back in the.

Speaker 1 (40:17):
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Speaker 2 (40:26):
Four to one. After the game last night, Andrew Webster
asked how it felt to have the top four out
of their hands.

Speaker 17 (40:31):
Now everyone wants to be a top fourteen. I mean,
I mean, and then gives you a really good shot
at the end of the season. But tonight won't define us.
You know, we've got we've got a lot of football
to play at the back end of this year, and
you know, we're going to get back to playing our
best football and the rest of it will take care
of itself. And yeah, we're confident we can do it together.
We've got a good group in there that believe in

(40:52):
each other and they support each other when no one's
happier there. We wish, we wish we'll win each week
at the moment, but there's a lot to build off
and a lot of a lot of spirit in that group,
and we'll creep.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
They will keep fighting, There's absolutely no doubt about that.
Dragons Next at Go Media Stadium Friday night. Thanks for
your cause on the Warriors, Mark Robinson.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
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Speaker 2 (41:29):
One seven. Welcome into Weekend Sport. Welcome back to Weekend Sport.
We're till three. New Zealand Rugby CEO Mark Robinson and
just a moment wanted to talk some cricket with you
as well at some stage, maybe this hour, maybe a
bit later on. I mean, fantastic result for the black
captain Zimbabwe. But an utter demolition job, just a complete mismatch,

(41:52):
wasn't it. You look across the series, this two Test
series against Zimbabwe, and I mean, I know numbers only
tell some of the story, but they are in cricket,
perhaps more than a lot of sports are good indicator.
And Zimbabwe across the two Test matches lost forty wickets,

(42:16):
all of their wickets for five hundred and fifty six
runs across the two Tests. New Zealand lost just three
for six hundred and three in their first innings of
the second Test alone, so they scored fifty odd more
runs and one innings for the loss of just three
wickets than Zimbabwe scored across the entire series for the

(42:41):
loss of all forty. I know, you can only play
what's in front of you, and I guess if you
go back in time, there were times in the deep
dark pass where teams probably thought the same about us.
And look, you have to give it to the likes
of Matt Henry and Zach Folks on Test debuu and
the guys who got big one fifties in that second

(43:02):
Test were Indra and Nichols Conway. I don't know, are
those stats diluted or actually is it the other way around?
That we're building some depth now without guys there who
may well benefit from the experience. I want to talk
a bit of this with you. We'll find a place
for that before the show ends. James mcconey this hour

(43:23):
as well as usual on a Sunday, just updating you
on Live Sport before we get to Mark Robinson. An
absolutely demolition demolition job happening in the rugby at Pokacoe
in around one of the Fara Palmer Cup. The County's
manor Cow Heat are putting the heat on the Bay
of Plenty Volcanics. They are eighty one nil ahead in

(43:45):
the final minute eighty one nil. They lead. The other
game in the far A Parma Cup this afternoon at
Rugby Park in christ Church has just kicked off nil
all there, but later on actually about an hour or
so otago up against North Harbor that one in Dunedin.
So we'll keep eyes on that. And as far as
the Mighty tend Cup, that's not called that anymore. The
Bunning's in PC goodness met is concerned. Five past two

(44:08):
this afternoon, the second game at Pookakowe as County's manic
up against Bay of Plenty and the men Otago Hawks
Bay and Dneda and under the roof around four thirty
five this afternoon. Great to get the chance to welcome
in New Zealand Rugby CEO Mark Robinson, as we do
on a fairly regular basis, to chat through a number
of rugby issues. Mark, Thanks for your time as always

(44:30):
on z B. Big story this week, of course, was
the return to New Zealand of Richie Moore Ulna. He
is back next year. He'll be here until the back
end of twenty twenty seven, including the Rugby World Cup.
Are you happy with the outcome that has been achieved here?

Speaker 13 (44:46):
Yeah, we are obviously.

Speaker 18 (44:48):
I mean, Richie's a proven talent, you know, across many
of the highest stages in the game, and he's been
a great servant to New Zealand rugby you know, we know,
offer a lot to the environments coming back to New
Zealand and we're looking forward to welcoming him home.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Was there any thought given to him being eligible to
play for the All Blacks earlier than October of next year.

Speaker 18 (45:10):
Yeah, I mean I won't get into too many details
around how the you know we reached our agreements, Piney,
but clearly we were open to Richie signing for a
little bit longer, and had that happened, we would have
been able to, under the policy we have have them
be eligible for the All Blacks earlier.

Speaker 13 (45:28):
But look, this is this is Richie's decision. We fully
respect it.

Speaker 18 (45:32):
We're pleased to having him, have him coming home, as
I said, and ultimately I think he's here. You know,
he just wants to keep some options open at the moment,
and we understand that.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
Are you happy with the eligibility rules as they currently stand?
I know that they're examined all the time. People always
have their say about them. Are you happy with with
where they are? And do you continue to examine them
on a sort of a case by case.

Speaker 18 (45:52):
Basis interesting Yeah, absolutely, we're very comfortable with where the
policy sits. I think if you look across you know,
the last five or six years, Piney, you know, the
vast percentage of amount of talent we want to retain
in the country we have, and then we've been able
to provide some flexibility to those long serving athletes that

(46:15):
you know, we believe have earned the right to have
those sabbatical arrangements in their contracts and we do treat
those on a case by case basis, but we've got
a good sense of what that criteria looks like obviously
to make those decisions and feel like we've been really
consistent with those.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
So if we look at the specific example of Richie,
he will spend three years in Japan, come back to
New Zealand, play NPC in one Super campaign, go to
a World Cup and then could go back to Japan.
How does that reward the commitment that others have made
to be here for the full World Cup cycle.

Speaker 13 (46:47):
Well, like I said, to the distinction there is that
he will have to come back and.

Speaker 18 (46:55):
Be eligible for domestic rugby before consideration of being selected
in the All Blacks whereas others who have signaled long
term commitments.

Speaker 13 (47:04):
Have that right to come back into the All Blacks
environment immediately.

Speaker 18 (47:08):
If you look at Jordie this year, that's a classic
example of that, and others in more recent times obviously
as well.

Speaker 13 (47:14):
So that is the clear difference here.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I'm sure Scott Robertson would have wanted Richie earlier. Is
he happy? Is he comfortable with the arrangement that's been
reached here about.

Speaker 18 (47:25):
Him, Yeah, obviously, I mean Raser is close to the
work we're doing and negotiating with Richie and is obviously
very pleased to have him back and hand. She fully understands.
I think, you know, at the start of the years,
reflecting after twelve months in the job, probably had great
far greater insight as to the tools and the flexibility
we've got within the eligibility policy, and is very supportive

(47:48):
of it.

Speaker 13 (47:48):
At the moment.

Speaker 18 (47:49):
And I think, you know, when we look at Leicester,
Fayonnuku coming back Richie obviously, and then we've got some
more announcements in coming weeks and months Piney that were
really really pleased about, you know, leading more out to
we're looking to twenty eight and twenty nine with a
lot of the players now and I think that's common
of the quality of the environments that were we've got

(48:10):
established here in New Zealand. And I think when we
look at the calendars, you and I have spoken many
times on this. When you look at the quality of
the calendar the next five years, all Black South Africa
tours next year, the Nation's Cup starting next year, two
lines tours, you know me Men's and Women's.

Speaker 13 (48:29):
And a World Cup. I think that's got people hugely
excited about the next four to five years.

Speaker 2 (48:33):
And will it's some look at next year's calendar. I
don't think it's been finalized, has it? You mentioned though,
start of the Nation's Cup, the longer format All Blacks
Tour of South Africa. When are we likely to see
a final life schedule for twenty twenty.

Speaker 18 (48:45):
Six, hopefully in the next couple of months, Piny. We
had some really productive meetings in Sydney last week. A
number of countries came into Sydney, obviously the last week
of the Lions. Six Nations and Sanze were both here,
along with World Rugby and certainly Nations Cup. Yeah, South

(49:06):
Africa All Blacks concept and the work on the lines
too has all got a really major push forward, and
we're feeling really confident now that we can come out
soon hopefully and share more information more formally about those.

Speaker 2 (49:19):
All Right, So that's South African Tour. I mean there's
huge anticipation about that. What are we talking here, Robert?
Is it like six to eight weeks away for these guys?
Is it three tests and some other games against teams
over there? Is that kind of what we're looking at.

Speaker 18 (49:32):
Yeah, I mean I don't want to you know, we
will reserve you know, the opportunity to talk about it
more in coming weeks, as we say, but.

Speaker 13 (49:40):
It is definitely an old school tour.

Speaker 18 (49:42):
There will be the traditional midweek games about the strong
against the strongest South African provincial teams, and then obviously
a significant test component as well. So it will run
over six to seven weeks from sort of you know,
early to middle August.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, looking forward to that, Lions. You were in Australia,
as you say, when the British and Irish lines were
there over the last month or so. We're on track,
are we? The men in coming in twenty twenty nine
and the inaugural women's tour here in twenty twenty seven.

Speaker 18 (50:13):
Yeah, well, obviously we were getting a lot more advanced
with the women's tour because it's closer at hand, and
we're feeling really excited about that. I mean, we got
to a stage where we're starting to lock in the
schedule a lot more detail and you know, I think
people are going to be, you know, shoes excited about

(50:34):
what we're bringing to the country then, so we make
good progress there and need to be you know, that's
not that far away now. With the men's it was
probably an opportunity to step back. But obviously in the
last two tours the lines have introduced a JV model
with South Africa in twenty twenty one in Australia for
this year, so it was our first real opportunity to

(50:57):
have a look at what that really entails, and.

Speaker 13 (51:01):
Look, we think that'll work really well. You know, it's
for New Zealand.

Speaker 18 (51:04):
It might be slightly different to what was in South
Africa and Australia because they're all different markets, but overall
we think it's a model worth giving greater consideration too.
So we spent a lot of time talking about that,
and then again we looked at schedules, venues, you know, dates,
you know, everything really as it would relate around the

(51:28):
tour itself across those weeks from late late June twenty
twenty nine through to sort of early August, and then
talked a little bit about you know, what more can
we be doing in the intervening years to be building
hype and creating really real anticipation across I Guest twenty six,
twenty seven, twenty eight as well and that wouldn't be
any additional fixtures obviously, but there's you know a lot

(51:50):
of different things we could probably be doing to build
more anticipation for that tour as well. So it was
a fantastic you know, I see the meetings, We had
a whole day with them, with our appropriate team members
and theirs, and yeah, we're feeling really good about it.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
How us the joint venture arrangement differ from how it's
been done previously.

Speaker 18 (52:10):
Well, you essentially you take all of the different rights
that apply to the to the tour in terms of
you know, revenue opportunities and basically build a model that
where where some of those are shared. Some of those
might be kept more separate to the lines in New
Zealand Rugby, but by and large you take a lot

(52:31):
more sort of collaborative approach to building building essentially building
as large as pie as you can piney on the
commercial side, and then figuring out how you can share that.
And it won't go into too much more detail than that,
but if you take things like you know, broadcasts matched
a merchandise and real retailing, hospitality and tours, you know,

(52:54):
all of that stuff combined and figure out a way
in which it can be shared that you know that
we think will create a lot more benefit for both parties.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
Rugby three sixty store continue to pop up about some
massive sums of money reportedly being offered to top players,
not only here in New Zealand but around the world.
How concerned are you about the threat of Rugby three sixty.

Speaker 18 (53:21):
We're obviously staying pretty close to this work, and I
think at this stage point it's fair to say, yeah, clearly,
the people behind it are very serious. You know, they've
got a vision of what they are looking to achieve
in the club game. But there's still a huge amount
of work to be done and there's still a lot

(53:42):
of information that needs to be provided and understood before
you know, we're very clear if this can take place
or not. But we're comfortable with that. We've got good
insights and heavy appropriate information we need to understand at
the moment on it.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
Do you think it will go ahead?

Speaker 13 (54:00):
I look, like I said, you know, there's it's really
too early to say. I mean, I.

Speaker 18 (54:08):
Think there's, you know, over the cooming sort of six
to eight weeks, some things could be clear. There's another
set of of you know, global meetings in London around
Rugby World Cup for the Woman's at the end of September,
and I think there'll be another set of information made
available then and we might have a clearer picture. But

(54:29):
there's you know, there's still a lot of stuff to
be understood before anyone could be confident that will be
going ahead.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
All right, we'll keep eyes on that. Our Black Ferns
on the plane next week, I think to defend their
World Cup title in the Northern Hemisphere. How confident are
you feeling about their chances of winning a third straight
Women's Rugby World Cup.

Speaker 13 (54:49):
Well, you know, it's firstly, it's just hugely exciting.

Speaker 18 (54:52):
It's always exciting for the country and the fans and
certainly rugby across New Zealand to be going to a
pinnacle event. You know, we certainly know the English and
the team that everyone is talking about and a clear favorites.
But we're we're reasonably comfortable with how we're tracking. We
got some really good we're done and review at the

(55:14):
end of last year. We're clearly there are a few
results we weren't and the team and Alan weren't entirely
comfortable with, and we think we've built into this year
quite nicely.

Speaker 13 (55:23):
Obviously, the transition of.

Speaker 18 (55:24):
The sevens players has been a list of the environment,
and you know, we've had pretty good preparation leading in.

Speaker 13 (55:29):
So yeah, we think we've got a great chance.

Speaker 18 (55:32):
We think we're building and improving all the time, which
is a nice place to be going into a tournament
like this. I don't think our form is at all plateaued.
We're still sort of getting better week on week. So look,
we're looking forward to it. You know, we hopefully we
can get into a position where we're at the business
end of the tournament, of the playoffs, and then really.

Speaker 13 (55:51):
They are anyone's games, aren't they.

Speaker 18 (55:52):
They're very close to the margins and curb be fine
in the men's and women's game at the moment international level,
men's sevens and fifteen.

Speaker 13 (56:00):
So yeah, we think we've got a good shot. We're
looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
How are we going with finding your replacement?

Speaker 13 (56:07):
You're asking the wrong You got the wrong person on
the interview for that, Piney. Look, I think I think
the boarder getting into position to be in in market
pretty soon.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
I mean, you know again, I know you're you're right,
you're the wrong person to ask, But what does that
look like in terms of a handover that sort of thing,
and a timefram like what are we today, We're sort
of early August. Are you looking sort of in the
next couple of months that you will have some sort
of clarity around who it is and then be able
to give them a decent hand of it.

Speaker 13 (56:42):
Well, well, again, that's not for me to determine, point
I certainly.

Speaker 18 (56:45):
What I would say is I'll do anything I possibly
can to help with the transition and to support the
board with with any insights or information they they want
from me. And if it works, you know, if I'm
still in post when when the new person's coming in,
obviously that'll that'll work really seamlessly provide some form of handover,
and if not, I'm very open to what that could

(57:06):
look like as well. So so again you know, I'm
here and I love the organization, I love the game
in our country, and we do what I can to
support that.

Speaker 13 (57:14):
But ultimately it's for you know, for the board to
be working through at the moment, and no day are
doing that.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
All right, Well, thanks for joining us. You are still
inted our CEO, so we appreciate you joining us. As always,
hopefully we can do it a couple more times before
you do knock it on the head.

Speaker 13 (57:30):
I'd love to do that, Pinney.

Speaker 18 (57:31):
Thanks, thanks very much as always to Shedding and hopefully
the listeners out there and joy us some more gratefully
coming up in the next few weeks.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
Indeed, I'm sure we will, Thanks Mark Mark Robinson, CEO
of New Zealand Rugby. Of course until the end of
the year anyway, and yes there are some some exciting
Rugby to b scene, particularly around the black Ferns. Of
course they head off to their Rugby World Cup Georgia
Miller incident. He's on the show after two o'clock as
they prepare to go into battle. Range of topics covered
off there by Mark Robinson. You can pick up on

(58:00):
any of those, You're more than welcome to do so
we can open the lines for a bit O eight
one hundred and eighty ten eighty. We spoke a lot
about the Richie wong A situation yesterday, but if you
want to add your two cents, more than happy for
you to do that. I know this divided opinion over this,
but I like the fact that loyalty is rewarded. It

(58:20):
is a free country. It's a free market. Players can
do whatever they like. A player can decide to stay
in New Zealand or they can decide to take up
and offer overseas. They can do whatever they like. But
unless you're on sabbatical, you cannot come straight back into
the All Blacks. Leicesterifying playing for Tasman before he can

(58:45):
play for the All Blacks again. He's back right, caught
the eye with a couple of tries yesterday, but he
can't play for the All Blacks until Indy year tour.
I think it is rich and Wong are the same.
He'll have to play NPC for Canterbury next year before
he can play for the All Blacks now. The counterpoint
to that, of course, is what is best for the

(59:05):
All Blacks? Should that be elevated in importance. Would it
be better for the All Blacks chances of winning the
Rugby World Cup in twenty twenty seven if Richie Mouonger
could join the All Blacks in South Africa next year
for that six to eight week tour and be integrated
back in as soon as possible. Would that improve the
All Blacks chances of winning the Rugby World Cup the

(59:26):
following year? The answer is probably yes, the sooner the better.
I'm sure Razor feels that way. The sooner the better.
But as we spoke about yesterday, there's a balance to
be struck here between success at all costs and the
wider discussion around contracting and loyalty, and to be honest,
the two things don't have to be mutually exclusive. The

(59:48):
All Blacks can still win the World Cup and Richie
mo Wonger can still play a significant role in it,
even if he doesn't rejoin the team until locked over
next year. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty to
kick around some rugby topics, got some cricket to talk
as well. James mcconi before too. It's one twenty six.
We're back in a moment y more than just a game.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Weekends for it with Jason Hine and g J. Garnomes,
New Zealand's most trusted home builder News Talks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
The b News Talks will be one twenty eight months,
says I love that strategy. Show loyalty to us and
we'll let you play for us faster.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:21):
I think that's it, isn't it, Muss? You know sabbaticals
are different. Jeordy Barrett sabbatical, but came straight back in.
Ardie Savvier sabbatical, came straight back in. You're still contracted
and have shown a commitment over a long period to
the All Blacks. Difference with the likes of Richard Warnger,
Lestifying and Nikols Shanafrazel those sorts of players is that
they've gone away. They've they're not under contract with New

(01:00:42):
Zealand Rugby. They've gone away, picked up a contract elsewhere
and now have come back, as is their right. I've
come back and said, yeah, I'm interested in chatting to
you again about a contract. Look, Jerome Kinall did it
after twenty eleven, went away a couple of years in Japan,
came back and picked up again and was Magne magnificent

(01:01:06):
for us, so much so that I'm not too sure.
I'm not too sure we've ever found an adequate replacement
for him.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
Hello, philp okay, finy, very good mate, excellent.

Speaker 19 (01:01:20):
You know I quick running on the Warriors as well.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
Let's do let's do let's do that first. What did
you make of it.

Speaker 19 (01:01:30):
Or didn't look good? I was going to say, Poney,
I watched the game last night. The whole thing in
the pouring rain, monsoon weather. But and I didn't. I
tried to get through earlier on but I didn't make it.
But I don't want to be missedter negative, you know,
like kind of thing, because I hope they will get through.
But I started thinking yesterday because I tried to get
through yesterday too. I started thinking yesterday, and then after

(01:01:53):
that game, like you, I started thinking, jeez, I wanted
to they're going to even make the top eight now
sort of they're on the slide, even with all their injuries.
You know, when you sort of you think of their
wins that they've had and they weren't that they weren't vincing,
you know, they haven't been convincing wins in those last
six or seven games. And the way they lost to
the Dolphins. I watched that game too, and I thought

(01:02:14):
at the end, with less than a minute ago, and
the way they stood off the players and just let
those Dolphin players fine go one way, go the next
way until they finally got through.

Speaker 13 (01:02:23):
I thought.

Speaker 19 (01:02:24):
I was thinking before the game was over and that
last minute, they're going to lose this because they're not
getting up on them, you know, at least trying to
shut them down and put pressure on them. But yeah,
I last night, they they made they made a few mistakes,
even even Roger made a couple of mistakes, and they

(01:02:44):
just didn't seem to be able to find a way
to break through the Bulldogs, which were in credit to
their defense, but also they you know, the Bulldogs playing
in the same conditions, but they didn't make the mistakes
and they saw through the ball. And we worry about
the right hand side and that sort of thing, but

(01:03:04):
last night the Bulldogs found side the left hand and
the right hand side and the way to score tries.
So ah, yeah, yeah, Like I say, I hope they
get there, and I want to see them do it,
but I'm a bit, I'm a bit concerned.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
So yeah, yeah, well I don't think there are only
one today. Phil. It's been sort of furrowing our brows
for the last month or so, this this little slump
that they find themselves in. I'm like you, I'm I
know you'll you'll pick yourself up and be ready to
support them again on Friday when the when the dragons
come calling. But yeah, it's just it's just a little

(01:03:40):
bit negley at the moment. As they negotiate the back
end of the season.

Speaker 19 (01:03:46):
Yeah, because that That's the other thing. Funny thing is
I've been watching the l for years and years and
years and way back in the in the day and
the Dragons and my team actually you know that I followed,
But like I say, always, I want to see the
Warriors do well because of the key, we think. But yeah,
that's the thing too, the running you know that they've
got now, I mean, the Dragon won't be easy, and

(01:04:07):
they've got to play the Sea Eagles and I'll be
top and we know the history of the Titans that
seem to be their bogey team. And the only thing
that I'm not sure about is how the Eels are
going and what sort of chance they'll get there. But
that's that. So I'll go on the Richard my wrong.
I think, yeah, I think it's good. I like what
Mode says you and you said about show a bit

(01:04:30):
of loyalty you know, and will reward you. But I'm
also in two minds because I'm thinking as well that, well,
do you do what's best for the team and the
chances of it winning, you know, So yeah, I'm in
two minds about something. I think there needs to be
a bit of a reward for loyalty showing. But then,

(01:04:53):
like I say, at the end of the day, if
you want to win, you put in your best everything
you've got, don't you.

Speaker 13 (01:05:01):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Yeah, But I don't think, like I said before, Phil,
I don't think the two things are mutual league exclusive
as long as I haven't got any first fives. And
I'm sure I'm sure Razor would have His starting position
would have been get Richie back and get him, get
him in as soon as possible. That would have been
his starting position. And I'm sure he's just had to
compromise from there because he's made no secret of the

(01:05:22):
fact that he wants Richie Wonger back, that that hasn't
been at issue at all. But I think, and I
heard Mark Robinson soon another interview during the week that
that he Scott Robinson is quite comfortable with the decision
that's been made, uh, you know, and and and Richie
is available in October of next year, and he's accepted
that as he has to, because it's his bosses giving

(01:05:45):
him a directive. And he'll he'll he'll box on and
like I say, it's not not too bad when you've
got Boden Barrett, Damien McKenzie, Ruben Love as your other options.

Speaker 19 (01:05:56):
Yeah, well that's was that. That's the other thing I
was going to say, like yesterday when I when I
was trying to get through, and I was going to say, well,
you're not in a bad position when you've got a
guy like bo and bear it, you know with some
A couple of people said, oh, he's not much of
an halfbiged sort of thing, and I thought, come on,
you know, and you know that he can play number
ten and if you really need to you can slide

(01:06:17):
him back. You know, a hell of a player also
that can you slote him back then fall back. So yeah,
he's not in a bed position at all.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
I think they'll be okay, Phil, I think they'll be okay.
I'm glad Richie's coming back. I think most of us
are terrific player well enhance our chances of winning the
Rugby World Cup. But as we spoke about yesterday, it's
going to be an interesting man management challenge for Scott
Robertson as well. Good to chat to you, Phil, thanks
for calling through mate twenty five to two. I'll just
update you on some live sport that game. The early
game and the Pharaoh. Palmer Cup is all over and

(01:06:50):
was a very comfortable victory for Counties Manico over Bay
of Plenty eighty eight nil. It finished eighty eight nil.
They're underway at Rugby Park in christ Church where Canterbury
are taking on Munowork two. They've had half an hour there.
Canterby fifth Dean nil ahead. We've got NPC coming as

(01:07:12):
well after two. If you want to catch our commentary
of these games, gold Sport and Nightheart Radio for County's
Manic how Bay of plenty, that's in Pookakoe five past
two and then Otago Hawks Bay and duned him from
four point thirty five. I just wanted to touch briefly
on the cricket. James mcconian in the not too distant
future we'll take some more calls if your life as
well on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, but I

(01:07:33):
just wanted to touch on the cricket again. Mitchell Sentner
took over the captain c rains look. I think he
was pretty diplomatic when asked for his overall thoughts after
the series yesterday.

Speaker 14 (01:07:42):
Obviously a great game in all aspects. You know, we
are challenge at times throughout the game, and I guess
we've kind of got through those periods, and yeah, I
guess we cashed in. I think the way we bowled,
especially in the first things, there's probably a little bit there,
but yet obviously gid Zimbabwe for one twenty their first
things and then we could ready cash in with a bat.
So yeah, I can't really complain about anything during this game.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
Yeah, there's nothing to complain about when you have the
biggest win in your Test history. And did I read
yesterday the third biggest in the history of Test cricket.
Test cricket's been played since eighteen seventy seven, and that
is the third biggest in the nearly one hundred and
fifty years that Test matches have been played. Massive quick

(01:08:26):
word from Mitchell Center on Zach Folks who got nine
wickets on Test d aboot.

Speaker 14 (01:08:30):
Yeah, I see we've seen, you know, Zach and some
of the white cool stuff. And I guess here, you
know someone who kind of swinging into the right handers.
You don't see that often, so I guess another addition
to our attack with the guys, you know, moving the
ball away. So yeah, he was outstanding. You know when
the lefties come on, he's he looks pretty pretty tough
to play and yeah to get I guess nine in

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the game on debuts, it's pretty gooda.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Twenty three to two. Marxis on text pinety. We're desperate
to have Richie back for the MPC. We're only one
two out of two so far. Yes, very good, Mark.
You did leave it late against Auckland last night, I note, Marty, Hi, mate,
Yeah good.

Speaker 20 (01:09:07):
Finally, look, I just want to mention I watched quite
a bit of the rugby on for to night and
there was a woman's referee and she was outstanding, mate.
You know, I don't know her name, didn't see it,
but yeah, she'd be a bit of referee. I've seen
him in rugby for a long long time. And she
let the game throw and there was a bit of

(01:09:27):
a hardie value there on the stage and she didn't
what a woman, good woman do is just pulled away
of it and she put a foot down and uh,
you know, you know to me, I was just saying
to a friend of mine, you know when when she
she sheild with for a high doing his matches, But
yeah she.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Was Now I can tell you it was Yeah, Marty,
I can tell you it was. That was Meggie Cogger Or, Yeah,
she's she's been Yes, he's been around for a wee while,
but I haven't seen her do a lot of men's games.
But she is highly regarded and I'm pleased that you
you thought that she did a good job because I
did too. I thought, you know, you often often when
you don't mention the referee afterwards, you know they've had

(01:10:05):
a good game.

Speaker 20 (01:10:06):
She did a flow and she just didn't she didn't
impose herself, but she was you know, but she was
firm and you know, and she had a real feel
of it. And that's the thing I loved about it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
So tape for Seymour Rover, Absolutely right, Marty. Good on you, mate,
thanks for calling him with that. Often people are very
quick to criticize referees, but good on you for ringing
and to praise one. Yeah, Maggie Cogger Or taking control
of the Northland Southland match and the Buddings MPC on
on Friday night and doing a doing a really good
job of it as well. I finally says Simon, not

(01:10:37):
sure if you have acknowledged the passing of Peter Lester.
We did at the top of the show, Simon and
p J. Montgomery is going to join us after two
with his recollections of working with Peter Lester. If you
missed this, very very sad news. Peter Lester, who's been
a fixture in the coverage of sailing but also himself

(01:10:58):
a hugely accomplished yachtsman, has passed away. He died on
Friday night at the age of seventy.

Speaker 17 (01:11:06):
P J.

Speaker 2 (01:11:07):
Montgomery going to pay tribute to Peter Leicester after two o'clock.
Very very sad news. Simon, thanks for flicking three yet
text twenty one to two. We'll take a break, come
back with James mcconey in his regular Sunday slot.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
The biggest things in sports are on Weekend Sports with
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Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
MB coming up seventeen to two, just before we get
James mcconey on. Just further to Marti's call on Maggie
Coggle or one of our top referees who was in
charge of Northland v Southland on Friday night years of course,
also off to the Women's Rugby World Cup in the
next month or so. And officiated at the home World
Cup three years ago, one of our more accomplished referees.

(01:11:51):
Great to see her in charge of the Bunnings MPC
match up in Funurday on Friday night. Allen says, Pinty,
do you know if the new stadium in christ Jis
will have stables for the Crusaders horses? Allan, I don't know,
but I'm almost certain that they'll be acommodated. I don't
think that the horses actually live at the stadium. I

(01:12:11):
could be wrong. James mcconi might know. Do the Crusaders
horses live at Addington and they're not not in the
raceway but in the in the stadium down there?

Speaker 1 (01:12:19):
Do you know, mate?

Speaker 21 (01:12:21):
I feel like they'd be brought in, wouldn't they They'd
be brought in for the day. But it's quite handy
having stables right there. That's that is a good question,
A good question, really, what's happening at that stadium? Where
are the stables? Because that's quite a built up industrial area.
I mean, yes, from what I can tell.

Speaker 2 (01:12:40):
Right, Well, we'll try and do some more digging into that.
I didn't mean to throw that your way. I wanted
to talk about Olie Mathis though. Is he a flanker,
is he a winger? Is there any need to decide?

Speaker 21 (01:12:51):
Well, it's about time we had our first hybrid, true
hybrid come through because I feel like, you know, when
when Jonah made the switch, that was something that was
was permanent. When Eric Rush went to the from flank
to the wing again, you know, he just became a winger.
But right now we've got someone who could do either
or there's even murmurings that he should play in midfield

(01:13:13):
for long term. He's not the biggest human dolly, but
he is an absolute athlete and as you saw again
last night for the Muluse, he's just capable of special things.

Speaker 13 (01:13:23):
And you and I have talked about it.

Speaker 21 (01:13:24):
Piney Henry Pollock similar kind of skill set, unbelievable. But
they identified it early that he's worth worthy of playing
international footy, and I think they are they are ahead
of the curve by making that call early for Henry
and when are we going to do it?

Speaker 13 (01:13:39):
Foley?

Speaker 2 (01:13:40):
I just he was that try he set up or
he was the architect of it. I know went through
a couple of sets of hands after him, but he
was the one who made the made the break and yeah,
I mean it actually doesn't matter, does it what number
he's got on his back?

Speaker 4 (01:13:54):
I know?

Speaker 2 (01:13:54):
And perhaps on defense and then the more structured parts
of rugby it does. But in the loose it doesn't
matter at all, does it.

Speaker 13 (01:14:02):
No, exactly.

Speaker 21 (01:14:03):
That's That's the one thing with Oli matthis is that
right now, his athleticism, his agility really is.

Speaker 5 (01:14:11):
A so world class.

Speaker 21 (01:14:12):
I mean I would have even thought that he would
have been worth taking a punt on last year bringing
into the All Blacks camp, because I think sending him
to sevens and you know, obviously you have to lose
weight and all that sort of stuff isn't really what
he was after. He was just after some security and
if his talent was prodigious enough from what he did

(01:14:33):
in the NPC last year to warrant some kind of acknowledgment. Yeah,
I mean, I know it's a big leap frog, but
sometimes you're going to make that call when you see
a talent that's this rare.

Speaker 2 (01:14:43):
Yeah. And Dave Well, he reminds me a bit of
Georgia Miller. Actually she's on the show next hour, so
but they're kind of some light like she could probably
play in a couple of positions too, couldn't she.

Speaker 12 (01:14:55):
Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 21 (01:14:56):
I mean Georgia is a really good example that they've
got a similar skill set. She's as fast as anyone
on that team, especially over the first thirty meters, and
that's what in you know, fifteen a side that makes
such a big difference. Obviously, when you're playing sevens you've
got to go for sixty or seventy meters sometimes. But
you know, we've seen players come through with this kind

(01:15:17):
of Remember young Victor Vito was a bit like that,
but he I don't know if you recall he had
a neck injury that slowed him down a bit, and
then he just definitely became a forward. And I mean
we could have seen it from him. But right now
for Oli Mathis, I mean, I'll be happy for him
to play anywhere. But the way that we're looking at
rugby safe for number sevens, I'm glad we've taken the

(01:15:40):
turn where then you're not obsessed with how big they are,
it's just how good they are. And then I'm talking
about duplessy kid feed I think you need a real
turnover expert in playing number seven these days.

Speaker 2 (01:15:51):
Yeah, I can't wait to see what the future holds
for that talented young man. Other matters around today to
chat about terrible news last week that Western United, the
A League football club who have teams in both the
A League Men's and women's competitions, have had their A
League licenses revoked. They've got the opportunity to appeal, but
everything I'm reading and hearing looks as though it's going

(01:16:14):
to be the folding of Western United. Never great when
a sporting club has to fold.

Speaker 21 (01:16:21):
It's so weird that you find Piney keeping up with
A league news. So on the one hand, they're saying
it's it's an expansion league. We're going to see in
the second team in Queensland, Canberra is going to get
a team, and then meanwhile there's a club just on
its knees, and that's a club that won the comp
just a couple of years ago. So I think this
is a really dangerous sign for clubs that probably can't

(01:16:45):
retain talent and can't get fans through the turnstiles. So unfortunately,
I'm sort of looking at the Wellington Phoenix and just
saying they need to they need to have a really strong,
robust plan to make sure that they can Weather. I
guess losing their best player in Costa barbarusis who's gone.
I know there's always going to be players there who
lead from time to time because their dream is to

(01:17:07):
play in Europe. But if you're a club that's just
got you know, sort of nineteenagers and two older guys,
it's not really it doesn't all go well. I mean,
do you worry about the future of the Phoenix like
I do, Pony, Not really.

Speaker 2 (01:17:20):
I mean probably I don't worry about them off the
field at all, because you know, a lot of clubs
have been through financial trials and tribulations in the last
you know, decade and a half in the A League,
but the Phoenix never have apart from when Terry was there,
but they quickly you know, changed ownership. Since well Nick's
have been there. There's never been any suggestion of financially

(01:17:40):
them leaving. There was that, you know, they wanted to
get David Gallup wanted to get rid of them for
other reasons known mainly to him. That didn't happen. I
think they'll be okay, it's yeah, it's just such a
shame for all of the good football people at that club.
You know, the players who now have an uncertain future.
The fans and they didn't have a huge fan base,

(01:18:03):
but who do they support now there's no I mean,
it's a sorry situation all around. Really yeah.

Speaker 21 (01:18:11):
I mean, look, I'm not saying that the Phoenix are
necessarily in trouble, just I just don't like some of
the signs when you lose talented guys sometimes in bunches,
like we felt like they haven't in recent years. And
I know that everyone's got a different kind of budget
to operate under, but you know, when there's these guys,
I mean, was at a sixteen year old playing last year? Yeah,

(01:18:33):
I think it was maybe seventeen.

Speaker 2 (01:18:35):
But I think it was now Luke brook Smith he
was he was sixteen. I think he was the youngest
goal scorer for the team. Anyway, Gabrielle Sloan would rigous
as well. They've had a couple of teenagers. Look, they're
playing this afternoon actually in the Australia Cup and they
beat Perth with a bunch of bunch of kids. So
you know, maybe maybe they're onto something at Nick's HQ.

Speaker 13 (01:18:56):
It could be.

Speaker 21 (01:18:57):
Hey, just one word on the Warriors. I know last
night was a bummer but it was to be expected.
But I do worry about the run home and the
game against the Dragons next week is so pivotal because
after that the Titans, Eels and Manly. I don't I
just don't think we can guarantee too much, to expect
too much. The Titans have always had our recently had
our number the Eels Mitchell Moses, Zach Lomas, you know,

(01:19:21):
Josh had Okar, and then we never play well at Brookvale.
I just think this is so much riding on this
game against the Dragons next week. It's that's going to
be a blockbust bust of clash really.

Speaker 2 (01:19:32):
Well, indeed, he just just for your comfort. The horses
don't stay at the ground text here we know one
of the owners of the Crusaders horses. They're taken in
for the games. They don't live there. They're saddled on
the Addington racecourse side of them at the moment, but
only because the race course is there. That's just that's
just pure coincidence that that is there. So they go

(01:19:52):
back to their own stables at the end.

Speaker 5 (01:19:55):
Yeah, what about Takaha though.

Speaker 21 (01:19:57):
That's the question though, isn't it That's what we would
need to know in the.

Speaker 2 (01:20:00):
Middle of town. Yeah, where are they going to? How
a theyre going to get there?

Speaker 10 (01:20:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (01:20:05):
Before.

Speaker 21 (01:20:06):
It's a real issue.

Speaker 2 (01:20:09):
It's one of the it's one of the key issues. Hey,
great to chat as always, mate, Enjoy the rest of
your weekend and we'll catch up again next Sunday.

Speaker 7 (01:20:16):
Cheers.

Speaker 21 (01:20:16):
I forgot to say, I'm in Fiji, Piney, Piney.

Speaker 13 (01:20:18):
So you know, bullets to you and to your listeners.

Speaker 5 (01:20:21):
So yeah, I'm off to have a swim.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Good on you, mate, and have a Fiji Gold afterwards.
I can highly recommend that as a refreshing beverage for
after a swim or at any time really. Eight and
a half away from two news talks, heb.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
Breaking down the Hail Mary's and the epic fail weekends
for it with Jason Pin News Talk ZMB.

Speaker 2 (01:20:44):
Five to two. David on text Canterbury leaving it late
against Auckland last night. I thought that described Wellington the
previous week against Canterbury or hang on they didn't turn up.
Nice one, David, nice one, very good. You will have
noted that Wellington did turn things around yesterday against Why cuttle.
All of the NPC action is available on Gold Sport
and iHeartRadio. That's for commentary. Of course, we'll cover off

(01:21:06):
in a bumper edition of In case you missed it
after two o'clock as well. In the two o'clock hour,
we also pay tribute to Peter Lester. PJ. Montgomery probably
the only voice that is more well known in yachting
circles than Peter Lester's was. The two of them worked
together on many events, many regattas, including America's Cups and others.

Speaker 13 (01:21:31):
P J.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
Montgomery going to join us to pay tribute to his
mate Peter Lester. After two o'clock, We're also going to
check in with the Tour Blacks. They're at the Asia
Cup at the moment and in Paul Play, have played
three and one three. The most recent game was this
morning when they're up against Chinese TYPEI, who were the
other team in the group who had designs on top place.

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Both Chinese TYPEI and New Zealand had won their first
two matches. Well, it was no contest the Tour Blacks
wanting it one eighteen to seventy eight. Top scoring for
the Tour Blacks this morning was Flynn Cameron. Pretty famous
her name when it comes to basketball in this country. Yes,
he is the son of Pedo Cameron, who ironically enough,
was on commentary for this game. I was watching it

(01:22:15):
this morning, and it's probably natural that you want to,
you know, you don't want to pretend or not pretend.
You don't want to feel like you're too biased towards
your own kids. Because Pero Cameron hardly mentioned Flint at all,
even though it was you know, top scoring and having
an excellent game. Pero I think was just, you know,
just trying to remain unbiased. But Flint Cameron's on the

(01:22:36):
on the radio with us after two o'clock as well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
The only place for the big names, the big issues,
the big controversies and the big conversations. It's all on
Weekend Sport with Jason Lyin on your home of Sport
News Talks.

Speaker 13 (01:22:54):
He'd been.

Speaker 2 (01:22:56):
At two o seven. This is Weekend Sport on News Talks.
He'd be until three, Tim Beverage taking over after that
for the Sunday edition of the Weekend Collective before we
can conduct that. Handover quite a bit to get through
bumper edition of in case you missed it coming up.
There's heaps to cover off. It's happened in the last
twenty four hours or so, which may have escaped your retention.

(01:23:18):
Then PJ Montgomery going to join us with a tribute
to Peter Lester, who, as you've perhaps heard on our
news this afternoon, has passed away at the age of
seventy A very familiar voice to not just shotting fans
but sports fans. His ability to break down complicated sailing

(01:23:39):
strategies and concepts to just the average everyday New Zealander
or sports viewer was I think what set him apart
from a lot of analysts and a lot of different
sports Peter Leicester passing away on Friday, PJ Montgomery paying tribute. Shortly,
Georgia Miller's on the show about to jump on the

(01:24:00):
plane with the Black Ferns to head to the Northern
Hemisphere to defend the Rugby World Cup tile the Blackburn's
won on home soil at the back end of twenty
twenty two. How are they feeling about that? Georgia Miller
will be with us and Flynn Cameron has mentioned before
two big part of the Tall Blacks run to the
quarterfinals at the Asia Cup in Saudi Arabia, including top

(01:24:22):
scoring game high twenty eight points this morning as New
Zealand beat Chinese Taipei by forty points in their final
pull match. Your cause and correspondents continue to be welcome
on eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. You can send
you text through to nine two nine two and emails
to Jason at Newstalk seadb dot co dot instead updating
live sport as well. Counties Manico and Bay of Plenty

(01:24:44):
have just kicked off and book a coe no score
there early and that one and in the far of
Palmer Cup can tell you that Canterbury lead Munaw two
twenty five nil early in the second half of their
clash in christ Church and in Dunedin, Otago and North
Harbor have just got an underway. So as always will
keep eyes on the live sport that is happening around

(01:25:04):
the place. But as we tick to war Lord's nine
past two, as we always do it around about this
time on weekend sport, let's get you across some of
the stuff you may have missed in case you missed it,
starting with this absolutely stunning comeback from Kiwi triathlete Hayden
Wild at the latest T one hundred event in London.

(01:25:25):
Less than one hundred days after suffering career threatening injuries
after he was hit by a truck in Japan, leaving
him with a punch of lung, six broken ribs, and
a shoulder blade injury. He came out this morning and
did this, and perhaps the emotion startsing to show because
this gewe athlete is built of something quite extraordinary. Hayden

(01:25:49):
Wild's two wins from two in the T one hundred
this year. What's an incredible logic defying performance. Astonishing from
Hayden Wild and good on him as well. The Tall Blacks,
as I mentioned, quarterfinal bound at Basketball's Asia Cup with
a commanding one to eighteen seventy eight went over Taipei
in jitter wow.

Speaker 3 (01:26:10):
All I can say is this turned into a pretty
significant high scoring win for New Zealand.

Speaker 13 (01:26:16):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
New Zealand led forty nine to thirty five at half time.
They outscored their opponents sixty nine forty three in the
second half to the NRL. An outstanding performance from the
Warriors women demolishing the Bulldogs in Sydney last night.

Speaker 4 (01:26:31):
Last tackle Haikol curtain crossfield kick with Ted is the targets.

Speaker 5 (01:26:38):
Targets the Laarriors.

Speaker 2 (01:26:41):
Finishing in style right time. They've wrecked up Murdy the Warriors.

Speaker 3 (01:26:47):
Edit's party time for the visitors.

Speaker 2 (01:26:50):
And the means the Dragons putting a dent in the Sharks.
Top eight hopes.

Speaker 17 (01:26:54):
Call it up now, Barcella, I'm a Kingtongia edit Gos
Buchananda great pass try.

Speaker 19 (01:27:02):
The straws one set turn up Hey John to jump.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
Us out a very jefs one final score twenty two
to fourteen to the Dragons over the Sharks and the
Roosters blowing the Dolphins away to move level on points
in eighth position.

Speaker 22 (01:27:18):
Quick played the boy to Tesco and turn two Poe
ed Is Razzle dazzl Harlot Crooks Sidney Roosters.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
Excellence sixty four to twelve the final score there of
the Roosters over the Dolphins to our NPC Wellington picking
up their first win of the season in Hamilton, scoring
early to set the tone.

Speaker 23 (01:27:41):
I meet it sure all there for Wellington's pi can
go from PJ ship ship.

Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
Drives at the line. I think you might have got there,
claiming to try and.

Speaker 2 (01:27:49):
The try goes the sheck thirty five twenty four the
final score at FMG Stadium Taranaki. Meantime too good for
North Harbor at Albany and.

Speaker 24 (01:27:58):
Now the kick inj a touch from Josh Jacob and
Taranaki take the maximum.

Speaker 2 (01:28:04):
I had to fight for it.

Speaker 24 (01:28:05):
It was tight at half time, but they've drawn away
in the second half, a very comfortable margin forty six
to twenty four over North Harbor.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
Hair goodwin from Tlanacky. They are top of the table.
Tasman bouncing back from defeat to Bay of Plenty last
weekend to easily beat Manawatu and Nelson with a returning
all Black to the four.

Speaker 7 (01:28:25):
This one's kick doesn't go out and if it doesn't
go anyway near.

Speaker 25 (01:28:27):
The twilight, but it's gonna go in arms of firing
and I'll go into the twenty two. He's weaving this way,
he's weaving that, he's bumping off defenders. He's back in
New Zealand rugby and he's for a second try.

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
Their terrific from Leicester faighting Anoko and Canterbury last night,
coming back from fifteen seven down to beat Auckland and
christ Church.

Speaker 6 (01:28:48):
Christie at the back fee Harky McNichol hell told ahead
thought race Rover's first tot he.

Speaker 5 (01:28:54):
Dives on it.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Oh it's up, he's gone.

Speaker 22 (01:28:58):
What if he's little brilliance from tonor rover to.

Speaker 2 (01:29:03):
Dive of the pool, use the chewy ground.

Speaker 22 (01:29:06):
Get up and propel himself over the line. At Canterbury
replayed the lead nineteen.

Speaker 2 (01:29:13):
Fifteen and it remained nineteen fifteen to the UK, where
Libby Caccacci the All White made his debut for Wrexham
in the English Championship away at Southampton. He was subbed
off with five minutes to go and Wrexham wondill ahead.
Southampton then quickly equalized and then won it right at
the ends.

Speaker 5 (01:29:34):
But here's manning.

Speaker 25 (01:29:35):
Maybe they win it now, hated.

Speaker 2 (01:29:38):
Would you believe it?

Speaker 5 (01:29:40):
Jack Stevens a.

Speaker 22 (01:29:41):
Captain, We're thirty the last cat.

Speaker 25 (01:29:44):
Jack Stevens the pre Brexham hearts.

Speaker 20 (01:29:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
We don't be taking Libby Caccacci off at Wonderlla Heead anymore,
will they. NASCAR driver Shane van Gisbergen has crashed out
of this morning's second tier Exfinity race in New York
Power Mountain. There's the content and Bran takes the lead
one through the name caution is out. Oh my goodness,

(01:30:09):
here that is spinning into the wall after making contact
with rival Connor Zilich as they were jeweling for the lead.
Zilich went on to win the race, se and finally
the black Caps completing a crushing defeat of Zimbabwe in
the second Test in Bulawayo, our biggest ever Test win
and the third biggest in the history of Test cricket.

Speaker 23 (01:30:31):
And out this time the gully fielder takes that catch
and Duffy gets his second wicket off the first bottom
and New over one hundred and seventeen all out Zimbabwe
in their second outing and news it in win this
Test match by an innings and three hundred and fifty
nine runs and sealed the series two games to new.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
The Voice of Sport on your home of Sport, Weekend
Sport with Jason Lyne, The News Talks, A'd Be.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
News Talks, He'd Be and Weekend Sport on Text. Hayden
wild incredible. That is basically half iron Man distance as well. Yeah,
just incredible. Just correction as well, he wasn't hit by
a truck. He rode into the back of a stationery truck.
But even so, the injuries that Hayden Wilde sustained and
has come back from in such a short space of time.

(01:31:19):
Absolutely incredible. We'll get Hayden Wild on the show in
the next little while and get him to talk us
through what he's been through and how on earth he
managed to get himself back so quickly. It's quarter past two.
A huge loss for the sailing community with the death
of former America's Cup tactician Peter Lester at the age

(01:31:41):
of seventy. He saw through three America's Cup campaigns and
became an expert voice on the sport, involved in the
world feed team for last year's America's Cup in Barcelona.
He has been a voice of authority and an explanatory
voice to us across so many years in sailing commentary.

(01:32:03):
Peter Lester died on Friday night after suffering a heart
attack a week earlier. Fellow America's Cup commentator Peter Montgomery
worked extremely closely with Peter Lester, and he joins us now,
Pjson's here, condolences for the loss of your great mate.
Peter Lester tell us about the time that the two
of you spent together.

Speaker 26 (01:32:25):
Our greetings, Jason. Yes, it's quite a shock and I'm
struggling to take it in, but I've known Peter for
well a very long time. I commentated out of Takapuna
Beach back in nineteen seventy seven in the second World
ok Dinghies held in New Zealand, the first back in
nineteen seventy and Peter Leicester won that against some very

(01:32:49):
very formidable opposition. And then he subsequently went on to
be involved in the one Ton Cup when back in
the very early seventies that was a very big deal
for New Zealand sailing, and then onto the Admirals Cup,
winning that what was it in the late eighties eighty seven,
and then he had been a tactician in the America's

(01:33:13):
Cup and a couple of times New Zealand Sailor of
the Year, and then he morphed over into the transition
of a sailing broadcaster as well, notably as a sailing analyst.

Speaker 2 (01:33:27):
You've worked alongside many people in a broadcast sense, PJ.

Speaker 12 (01:33:32):
And I know.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
Not every sportsperson can make the transition across. How was
Peter Lester able to do that, to go from sailor
to explaining sailing to us?

Speaker 26 (01:33:43):
Well, probably way back when I remember well, originally when
I first started broadcasting, Bill McCarthy told me the very
first day.

Speaker 13 (01:33:54):
Don't ever forget.

Speaker 26 (01:33:55):
You're talking to the little old lady with the blue
rints headoo and white tennis shoes. And I've never forgotten that.
And I remember telling Peter Lester that as well, and
as with many others, and Peter was able to do that,
because what can be quite a complicated sport, then Peter
was able to break that down to be understood by

(01:34:18):
people who were certainly interested in the America's Cup but
had no serious sailing knowledge. And Peter was able to
do that and do it well.

Speaker 2 (01:34:29):
And of course these were regattas that you're involved and
often go on for a long long time, don't they. PJ.
You would have spent a lot of time in Peter
Lister's company outside of the commentary box. What were you know?
What will those memories be like for you?

Speaker 13 (01:34:44):
Ah?

Speaker 26 (01:34:44):
Well, he was always a very friendly, personable person who
was very much a glass half full and well he
was good company and had a very funny sense of humor,
and I witnessed that often.

Speaker 13 (01:35:01):
Now.

Speaker 26 (01:35:01):
He was just very good company, very knowledgeable about the
sport he was talking about, but also very good company.

Speaker 2 (01:35:08):
Yeah, good on your PJ. I know you've got a
queue of people waiting to chat to you about Peter Lester,
so we'll let you go, but appreciate you joining us
here on news talks. He'd be to remember your great mate,
that's PJ. Montgomery, who probably knew Peter Lester as well,
if not better than most people. There's a wonderful tribute
on the New Zealand Herald website, incidentally written by Michael Burgess. Yeah,

(01:35:31):
Peter Lester's voice was just so well known, and like
I say, he just had this ability, this innate ability
to explain things to you in everyday terms, because yachting
it's you know, for anyone who's been evolved in it,
and I haven't, but for anyone's been involved in there's
so much jargon, so much terminology, that it must take

(01:35:54):
you years to sort of get your head rounds. But
that becomes intrinsic in the in the sport, but is
not well known outside of the sport. But Peter Lester
had this ability when he was explaining things that were
happen on the screen, or unpacking why a certain strategy
had been undertaken by by one crew or the other,
or just able to get inside the heads of the

(01:36:18):
sailors and give us some razor sharp insight into what
they were feeling and thinking at any given moment. It
was without peer for me, and as I said to
Francesca before midday, this is certainly not, you know, common
among sports commentators who have been high level athletes themselves.

(01:36:42):
Some of them are very good at it, and we've
all got our favorites and those who come across and
transition seamlessly into commentary from being a competitor. Not everybody
can do it, but Peter Lester was able to do it.
He just had a depth of knowledge and a vocabulary
which we could all understand. He put it in layman's terms.

(01:37:04):
That's about as some as I can put it to you.
Kid A Piney says this text from Rob. I thought
the loss of Peter Berling of America's cup Helm was
hard for the New Zealand sailing public, but as totally
surpassed by Peter Lester's passing knowledge, voice and commentating mastery
that made sailing watching both a pleasure and compelling sail

(01:37:26):
away and peace. Peter Lester, Thank you, Rob, appreciate your text.
So sorry to hear this news, says Janet I loved
him as a sports commentator, especially around those wonderful America's
Cup regattas. Yeah, look, he'll he'll be sadly missed. He
was at the top of his game too. He certainly
wasn't anywhere near the end. He took part in coverage

(01:37:48):
of the America's Cup in Barcelona last time out and
was highly sought after as a broadcaster and an analyst.
Rest well now, Peter Lester, gone far too soon at
the age of seventy two. Twenty two, on News Talks,
heb this is Weekend Sport. We're back in a moment.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
Voice of Sport on your home of sport Weekend Sport
with Jason Vain and TJ. Gunner homes New Zealand's most
trusted oh Builder News.

Speaker 2 (01:38:15):
Talks' News Talks. They'll be coming up to twenty five.
The Steelers, No, they're the Steamers. The Steelers are County's Manico.
The Steamers are Bay of Plenty. They're playing one another
and it's the Steamers off to an absolute flight. They're
fourteen nill ahead after nineteen minutes in Pokakoe, two converted
tries already for Bay of Plenty, who of course had

(01:38:37):
a very impressive first up went over Tasman last weekend,
so marking themselves out as early contenders for the NPC
title are a Bay of plenty fourteen nill ahead in
the Farah Palmer Cup. Just updating you from christ Church
where there's twenty minutes to go at Rugby Park, Canterbury
twenty five to five over munawar Tu and in Ternedin.

(01:39:00):
The early game down there the women's game Otago seven
North Harbor fourteen after twenty minutes, and the late game,
of course in Dunedin is the final bunnings ENPC match
of the weekend where Otago host Hawks Bay. Speaking of rugby,
just over two weeks until the Black Ferns begin the

(01:39:21):
defense of their Rugby World Cup title. Many of the
squad are heading to their first Rugby World Cup, including
seven star Georgia Miller, who of course was last year's
New Zealand Rugby Player of the Year.

Speaker 8 (01:39:34):
Miller underneath it's good distance on at Mines, but Miller
are chance to try and get some of his silky
stealthit going as he does just that.

Speaker 21 (01:39:42):
Georgia, Hello Georgia for brilliance.

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
One of the more eye catching tries of recent times
from Georgia Miller there, she joins us. Now, Georgia, thanks
for taking the time. How does it feel as you're
about to jet out to what will be your first
Fifteen's Rugby World Cup.

Speaker 16 (01:40:02):
Yeah, I'm really excited. I'm so ready to go. It's
going to be an exciting couple a couple of.

Speaker 8 (01:40:08):
Months with the girls, but just enjoying some time at
home and soaking that up before we head away.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
What of the last two or three weeks since the
squad was named been like for you and the rest
of the team.

Speaker 8 (01:40:19):
So we've been in camp for two weeks down in Wellington,
which was pretty intense.

Speaker 16 (01:40:25):
I think, you know, we've ramped up a whole another level,
which is exciting and what we need. And then we've
had this.

Speaker 8 (01:40:31):
Week and the start of next week where we just
runs at home, still training and just yeah, preparing.

Speaker 16 (01:40:37):
To head over there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:38):
For you, Georgia, what are the biggest adjustments that you've
had to make coming from the sevens game into fifteen's?

Speaker 8 (01:40:45):
Probably for me being a loose forward, would be the
physicality of it all and just kind of I guess
I'm probably on the smaller side for a flanker, so
just using my strengths and manipulating that in a way
that I can still dominate in the physicality.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01):
Well, he's been talk as well about you featuring in
the back line. I don't know if it's just people
you know spitballing or whether it's an actual thing, But
do you think open side flanka is where you're best
suited in the fifteens game right now?

Speaker 13 (01:41:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:41:15):
I love playing open side flank.

Speaker 8 (01:41:16):
If I get too far away from the ball, I
don't enjoy it as much, so I like to be
around about. But yeah, I'll be open to play in
the bags, but for me, probably flankers where I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:28):
Am for now fair enough. And what are the specific
strengths of your sevens game that you feel you can
bring most effectively into fifteens.

Speaker 8 (01:41:37):
Yeah, probably just my ability to turn over ball at
breakdown would be one. And then trying to feel at
myself through small gaps on attack. I'm lucky enough that
I can attack on the edges of flankers, so that
allows me to open up and it's a bit more
sevens like.

Speaker 16 (01:41:54):
But yeah, just for a few more people immedly.

Speaker 2 (01:41:57):
Of course, there are a few of you who have
come across from the sevens game and been selected for
this Rugby World Cup squad. Was there any awkwardness around
that Georgia you know seven's players dropping into the fifteens
environment and I guess taking the places of some players
for this World Cup squad.

Speaker 8 (01:42:15):
Now, the fifteenth girls and the whole squad was really
welcoming and they made sure that they could catch us
all up to speed and we knew all our stuff.
So I think that's just a reflection of this team
and everyone wants, you know, the best for the team.
So yeah, it's been really nice and the transition was
made a lot easier by the girls being so welcoming.

Speaker 2 (01:42:35):
Good to hear that try you scored against Australia in
Wellington last month. Every time I watch it it looks better.
What are the pictures that you saw and what were
the thoughts in your head when you collected that ball
from a dropout on what about the ten meter line
just inside your own half pick it up from there?

Speaker 8 (01:42:54):
Well, initially I was like, if they kick it to me,
I'm just going to run because the time before that
I passed it to Leana, So I'm just going to run.

Speaker 16 (01:43:02):
I just have a go and so I kind of
started running and then I saw one of our prop
standing there. I was like, I'll just run at her,
and then yeah, I kind of just I don't know,
it's just nothing. I was through the gaps.

Speaker 19 (01:43:14):
I was stoked.

Speaker 2 (01:43:15):
Yeah, magnificent stuff. Are you aware of of what you're
doing in the moment or do you do you have
to look back afterwards like, oh that's right, Yeah, I
beat that many defenders.

Speaker 16 (01:43:26):
Yeah, it's funny, like.

Speaker 8 (01:43:27):
I could do something, someone could ask me straight after
what I did, but like I just kind of forget.
So I'm a pretty player in the moment, kind of
player which you know has its good and bads, but no,
I just you know, play.

Speaker 16 (01:43:41):
What's in front.

Speaker 2 (01:43:42):
You've won many times on the World seven's circuit, Georgia
Olympic gold of course, with the Black Fern sevens in
Paris last year. How different does this feel though, heading
off to a fifteen's Rugby World Cup.

Speaker 16 (01:43:55):
Yeah, it's pretty weird. Like at the moment, I think
it doesn't really feel real.

Speaker 8 (01:44:00):
I think when we get over to England, you know,
there'll be all.

Speaker 16 (01:44:03):
The branding posters and a lot of chat it over there,
which I think then it will sink him. But yeah,
I'm excited. I think I'm being good in the Olympics
and playing in that last year that has really prepared
me for a moment like this, So yeah, I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
The vibe in the room when the squad was announced.
I was lucky enough to be there on Upperhart a
couple of weeks ago when when the squad was announced
and you all came in with members of your family
and loved ones. What was that day like for you?

Speaker 16 (01:44:36):
It was really special.

Speaker 8 (01:44:37):
I think having everybody's family there as well, just you know,
seeing them connect and we having an opportunity to do.

Speaker 16 (01:44:45):
That was really special. And just being up on that
stage with the girls and knowing what they've had to
do to get to that moment, and it was really special.

Speaker 8 (01:44:53):
And they're just looking around probably excited me and like,
we've got so much talent in our group that I
think we've been really do a good job at this
World Cup.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
I'm sure you will. And You've been the subject of
an eight part document ntry series which is about to screen.
It's called Triple Threat. It follows your journey as well
as those of Maya, Joseph and Caitlin call Always you
prepare for your first Rugby World Cup. So what have
the camera's just been following you around for the last
six months.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
Now?

Speaker 16 (01:45:22):
The cameras pop up here and there.

Speaker 8 (01:45:25):
It's actually been really cool, and I think when the
doco comes out, like it's just nice to see people
outside of rugby, Like there's a lot more to it
than I guess a lot of people know. So I'm
really excited for people to see that side of US
three and the team.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
So it would be good.

Speaker 2 (01:45:43):
It should be good. So there's obviously rugby footage and
training footage and stuff, But what do the cameras just
sort of follow you twenty four to seven, like when
you went to the shops and things like that.

Speaker 8 (01:45:52):
No, we kind of just have shit times or moments
that they want to film, so they're like, I don't know,
they came down to my house at home and just
interviewed my parents and just different things like that. So
we're lucky that the camera's aren't with us to seven.

Speaker 2 (01:46:07):
We can have a break, which isn't It's good to hear.
So have you seen the finished product?

Speaker 8 (01:46:13):
Yeah, I've seen a couple episodes, which, yeah, it's so
cool to say it all come together after everyone's.

Speaker 16 (01:46:20):
Put a lot of worse than effid into it, so
hopefully everyone else enjoys watching it.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
I'm sure we will. And just to finish, Georgia heading
off soon as I say, have you let yourself think
about what it might be like to go deep, deep
into this tournament and who knows even emulate what the
Black Ferns did on home soil at the back end
of twenty twenty two.

Speaker 16 (01:46:41):
Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 8 (01:46:42):
I think probably the legacy of this jusey and of
this team comes a lot of success, So have thought further,
like obviously we need to get a lot of jobs
done first, but just you know, dreams and imagining what
it could be like or who we could be playing
and stuff.

Speaker 16 (01:46:59):
Is Yeah, it's going to be cool.

Speaker 2 (01:47:01):
Yeah, Well, we're all very excited about watching you guys
play Middle of the Night over here, of course, twelve
thousand miles away, but we're getting up and look forward
to watching how you go at the Rugby World Cup.
All the best year in the team, Georgia, thanks for
your time this afternoon, Awes, Thank you very much, Thank you, Georgia.
Georgia Miller there part of the Black Ferns squad they
head off. I think it might be Tuesday or Wednesday

(01:47:21):
they head away. The first game at the Rugby World
Cup is four thirty in the morning on Monday, August
the twenty fifth. So what's that tomorrow fortnightth Does that
sound right? Yeah, tomorrow's the eleventh year, twenty fifth, So
two weeks tomorrow they take on Spain, then Japan the
following Monday, that's at one o'clock in the morning, and
then Ireland, who will probably be the stiffest competition in

(01:47:43):
New Zealand's group, the following Monday, September the eighth, at
one forty five. So those are the three Paul games
on three consecutive Mondays, and it's a pretty simple format.
There are four pauls of four top two into the quarterfinals,
semifinals and the final. Nathan says there's a future captain.

Speaker 4 (01:48:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Georgia Miller is an interesting case, isn't she? Because she's
so good at sevens, so good, but anyone who saw
her paid two rugby tests for the Black Ferns, one
of which was that game just played the clip from
where she scored that unbelievable try, So it feels as
though she could decide what she wants to do, and

(01:48:24):
it's not unusual for players to go back and forth,
especially in the women's game between sevens and fifteen. She's
going to be huge at this World Cup for US
Triple Threat. I talked to Georgia about this docco. It's
an eight part series follows her journey as well as
those journeys of Maya, Joseph and Caitlin va calall who

(01:48:46):
are part of this team too, taking on their very
first Rugby World Cup. Goes behind the scenes, captures all
sorts of things as these three confront intense national expectations
and the pressure of elite sport, both on and off
the field. It's a fresh, positive insight and a personal
one two into what it means to be a young
female athlete today. The first episode you can catch on

(01:49:07):
endztr Plus, which is New Zealand Rugby's digital content platform.
Six o'clock this coming Wednesday is when that drops. It'll
also screen on Skygo and skysport Now from the thirteenth
of August and episodes weekly on Sky Open from the
twenty seventh of August. So looking forward to seeing Triple

(01:49:27):
Threat following the journeys of Georgia Miller, Maya Joseph and
Caitlin Acoll. The Stealers have pulled one back a try
that is a converted try against the Steamers at poker Co.
Half an hour gone there Bay have plenty lead Counties
by fourteen points to seven. As far as the Pharah
Palmer Cup is concerned, getting towards the end of the

(01:49:49):
game between Canterbury and Mulaw two in christ Church's five
minutes to go, Canterbury lead that one thirty two points
to five and down in Dunedin North Harbor with a
fourteen to twelve lead after half an hour over the
home side Otago. We'll take another break when we come back.
It's to basketball we go. So Saudi Arabia is the
venue Jetta Saudi Arabia for the Asian Cup the Fever

(01:50:12):
Asian Cup. The Tall Blacks have gone three from three
in pool play and qualified directly for the quarterfinals courtesy
of their latest victory against Chinese Taipei this morning. A
very very good all round team performance. Key member of
the team Flynn Cameron is with us after this on
Weekend Sport, the big.

Speaker 1 (01:50:33):
Issues on and after field call eight hundred eighty ten
eighty Weekends Forward with Jason Fain and GJ. Gunner Homes
New Zealand's most trusted home, Milder News Talks, abb.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
Bang on two forty on News Talks, d B three
from three for the Tall Blacks and group play at
Basketball's feb Asian Cup.

Speaker 19 (01:50:53):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
All I can say is this turndent of pretty significant
high scoring win for his zealing my goodness.

Speaker 2 (01:51:02):
A very comprehensive one hundred and eighteen to two seventy
eight win over Chinese Taipei. It was a bit of
a cagey start, a close first quarter which the Tall
Blacks led nineteen eighteen after and then they stretched their
legs in the second and third quarters and ended up
winning by forty points. Very comprehensive. They go straight into

(01:51:25):
the quarter finals as a result of finishing top of
their pool. Point Guard Flynn Cameron, Yep, you'll recognize the surname.
He's Pedo Cameron's son, of course, top scored for New
Zealand with twenty eight points and he joins us now.
Flynn congratulations on the win and completing a clean sweep.
And Paul play three from three was this the team's

(01:51:46):
best performance of the tournament so far.

Speaker 4 (01:51:48):
Do you think I know how to answer that question.
To be honest, I thought we did do well as
a team. I thought we kept the intensely Wena come
out great the first quarter, but we.

Speaker 5 (01:52:00):
Stuck with it.

Speaker 4 (01:52:00):
Sevend quarter. That'll good lead to fourth quarter that want
to play us? By that time we kind of ran
him the germ. So yeah, it was just good capitalyzed
on that. But all in all, all the boys performed
well across the board.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
Yeah, tight first quarter, as you say, just nineteen eighteen
at quarter time, what do you think it took you
a bit of time to get into the game.

Speaker 4 (01:52:21):
Probably just adjusting, Probably just adjusting to how how slow
they wanted to play and we wanted to get out
and they're pretty taxical at that point. And then also
with a late night game eleven o'clock, you know, we
had the energy flowing, but it was nothing compared to
the Philippines game. Philippines put the energy, they had the crowd,
so it was more us just adjusting to new circumstances,

(01:52:43):
not having a big crowd being you know, we just
have to rely on one another bringing that energy and
once we realize that it was you know, I mean
the scoreboard dictated that how.

Speaker 2 (01:52:54):
Do you adjust to a team that wants to slow
things down like Chohinese type painted.

Speaker 4 (01:52:59):
We use our energy on defense, We knuckle down, we'd
be vocal, our closeouts improved. We we just feed off
each other's energy. You know, you can just you can
just tell when one guy wants to guide the ball.
Everyone climbs in and pay by play, possession by a position.
You just start to feeling it and the next thing

(01:53:20):
you know, we out running turn the lobs is good.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Yeah, I'm looking at rebound numbers here and I know
they only tell some of the story about sixty one,
twenty two in your favor forty two at the defensive end.
You must be stoked without your dominated the boards tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:53:34):
Yeah, we did amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:53:36):
We kept them to one shot, and there was always
tough contested shots. We had our we had our scout
and play making. The best players take tough contested shots,
and even there lesser players take take shots.

Speaker 5 (01:53:50):
And then from there we just know we just got
a box out of.

Speaker 4 (01:53:54):
Big seven foot and maintain those rebounds, and then that
leads to our office.

Speaker 13 (01:53:59):
So it's good.

Speaker 2 (01:54:00):
Your stat line flown I know you probably don't want
to talk about yourself too much, but twenty eight points
nine rebounds ata sust couple of deals. How placed are
you with the way you play personally?

Speaker 13 (01:54:11):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:54:11):
I mean it's a good, good performance, but you always
look at you always look at go back to the film.
So I'm never gonna be too high about that line.
I'm always gonna look back at the film, look at
what I can improve on. And yeah, at the end
of the day, we came Today's a cup with one
goal of mine. Then that's to win gold. And we're
not gonna be satisfied to you know, to that last day.
Hope we were in that Grand Final game and we'll

(01:54:33):
see what happens from there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:34):
Well, let's victory takes you straight into the quart of finals.
You don't have to worry about qualification around to make
the last night. Uh, how big a how big an
advantage is that you get a few days off now
to prepare for the quarter finals.

Speaker 4 (01:54:46):
Yeah, it's huge, huge advantage, especially the way we played.

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
We play.

Speaker 4 (01:54:50):
We play ten eleven guys, but where we're running the
whole time, we're playing food court defense. You know, on
the rise of the shop we're Jammy too. We'll play
we play a very taxing uh game of basketball.

Speaker 5 (01:55:04):
But we know that our opernent I don't want to
play that style.

Speaker 4 (01:55:07):
That's why they always want to sew it down to
us getting three days off, just able to focused on
our recovery and then get ahead start on our scout,
just knowing who we're going to play next, and then yeah,
I think that just gives us the advantages.

Speaker 2 (01:55:22):
There's some guys on this team from all over the world.
How do you how do you see about meshing to
get the combinations you know, in a relatively short time.

Speaker 4 (01:55:31):
Yeah, I'd say we're all from all over the world.
But one thing we have in common is, you know,
we've all come.

Speaker 5 (01:55:36):
Back to play.

Speaker 4 (01:55:37):
We know the Tall Blacks culture, the brotherhood. We've all
got connections to that family. So I mean, if you
you're one of the new guys, we know we've got
a couple a couple of players that just came into
the team and they're experiencing the culture. But I'd say
it becomes relatively easy, you know, when you when you're

(01:55:58):
on long trips such as these ones, it becomes how
would you say, pretty easy to just blend and.

Speaker 5 (01:56:05):
Be a part of the coach.

Speaker 4 (01:56:06):
You know, it's effeless for us being from each other,
but say so, we all know each other. You know,
basketball is a small world, but I'd say it becomes effortless.
You know, you feel like you just something that you've
always wanted to do, play high level basketball with guys
from the same country as you.

Speaker 10 (01:56:25):
Love that.

Speaker 13 (01:56:25):
Love that man.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
Love that three point percentage as well, was good tonight
forty four thing more than good forty four percent? How
big a stand is that when you're heading, you know,
from beyond the arc and able to score and big
clumps as a team.

Speaker 4 (01:56:37):
As a team, it's amazing.

Speaker 19 (01:56:39):
But we we know how good we are.

Speaker 4 (01:56:41):
We know each player is capable of hearing those threes.
We know the game style. Judd knows the game style
that we want to play. That's why recruited guys that
can shoot a three and then also be able to
penetrate and finish out the room. So yes, you know,
it's obviously it's pleasing to see that we're shooting at
the at a high percentage, but at the same time,
it's we expect that because we know how good we are.

Speaker 2 (01:57:03):
Your your free throw routine really interesting. Yeah, just before
your shirt, you just is it just you bring your
hand down. Is that just to just to calm yourself
before you take the shot?

Speaker 5 (01:57:14):
Exactly?

Speaker 4 (01:57:15):
That exactly that I feel like that's the only time
in the game where everything's on your time, you know,
so you can really just I just I've been without
routine surpass I don't even know since I was the college.
Since how that my last year at high school. Instead
of rushing it, I just thought, you know what, this
is my time to just you know, set her down.

Speaker 5 (01:57:37):
And it's just me and the hoop.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
Well, it's working, man, it's working. How big an influence
has your dad been on you?

Speaker 12 (01:57:44):
Now?

Speaker 13 (01:57:44):
It's been awesome, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:57:48):
Ever since a young kid, you know, I've just was
all I've known is a Tour Blacks feel us. You know,
I'd go watch it. Well, we didn't know much one
more growing up. We just knew how dad played for
the Tour Black Student, how good he was. But I'd
say that's probably his biggest influence on me and my brother,
you know, just remaining humble at all times all these
uh you know, trying to be present and then trying

(01:58:11):
to always have that uh that ain't goal of mind
in terms of us becoming you know, going from gold
why can't we win?

Speaker 5 (01:58:20):
Why can't we win?

Speaker 19 (01:58:21):
Go?

Speaker 4 (01:58:22):
So yeah, but definitely the biggest influence on uh myself,
say as a basketball player, but also as a man.
And then it's just awesome because he's part of the
commentary team, so you know, he's never he's never that
far from the tall Blacks.

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
To be honest, it's it's sexually really interesting listening to
on commentary because I think he's you know, he probably
doesn't want to, he probably doesn't want to like, you know,
to show favoritism. He hardly talks about you at all.
You're getting twenty eight points and he's trying to deflict
to other guys on the team.

Speaker 5 (01:58:52):
Yeah, you know that's my dad.

Speaker 4 (01:58:55):
But it's it's funny as just hearing him talk even
in the other games, you know, like because he's got
a great relationship with all of us. You know, he's
he was the head coach previously, and then before the
game war giving them dap ups and hugs like not
just me. I think the first day when I saw him,
I gave him a dap up in a hug. But
then right after me, I saw a Dante give him
a dap up in a hug, and then Taylor Bric

(01:59:15):
gave him.

Speaker 5 (01:59:15):
A dap up in a hug.

Speaker 4 (01:59:16):
You know, that's just that Tour Blacks culture. Every time
you see uh one of the alumni part of it,
you always want to, you know, show respect. And that's
that's a big part of the Tour Blacks respect in
the past, honoring the prison, setting it up well for the.

Speaker 2 (01:59:31):
Future, absolutely right, or I might we'll just for you go.
So the next three days or so, you'll you'll have
some some refreshment and recuperation, but then you'll you'll look
ahead to whoever it is that you got in the
quarterfinals and start scouting exactly that.

Speaker 4 (01:59:45):
You know, number one goal of mine is just making
sure we're all or a healthy or prime now seldery
for when when we do play in three days. But
number one goal right now is just try to get
some great sleep, get some great food into our bodies,
and then side the recovery process.

Speaker 2 (02:00:00):
Congratch on another great one, Flinn and a great performance
from you, MTE. Really appreciate you taking the time for
a chat.

Speaker 19 (02:00:05):
Big.

Speaker 2 (02:00:06):
You have a good day too, although I guess it's
night there now you might be off to bed, thanks
Flynn Flynn. Cameron there game high twenty eight points as
New Zealand beach Chinese Taipei one eighteen seventy eight this morning.
His stat lines so good twenty eight points, nine rebounds,
eight assists, a couple of steals as well. Mahave King

(02:00:27):
was the other one who stood out in terms of
the stats twenty two points, eight rebounds, four assists, a
steal in a block and just contributions you know here
and there. Max Darling with nine points, Ben gold Good
ta Wa Boy fourteen points for him, Taylor Britt with
fourteen points. So it's a real team effort for this
tall black side. So as mentioned, what that does is

(02:00:49):
qualify them direct for the quarterfinals. The way this tournament
is set up as there are four groups of four,
the top side in each of the groups goes directly
into the quarterfinals and the teams that finish second and
third go into some sudden death qualification to make it
through to the quarterfinals. And just checking the schedule, New

(02:01:11):
Zealand's quarter final isn't until Thursday, so what over today Sunday?
So they've got a bit of time to, as Flynt said,
to refresh and recuperate and then to scout whoever as
they will be playing. They won't know that of course
until after those qualification games, but they are through directly
to the quarterfinals, as are China. Australia are looking good

(02:01:31):
as well. They've got one more game to go tomorrow.
They will probably also go straight through to the quarterfinals
and would be you'd have to think the favorite for
the whole thing. But I just loved the way Flynn
Cameron was talking there. We had to win it, we
had to win the Asia carp and why can't we?
I watched them play this morning and yeah, Chinese Taipei
didn't offer a heck of a lot, but I thought

(02:01:52):
New Zealand were tremendous, really really good. Looking forward to
seeing how they go in their quarterfinal on Thursday nine.
Away from three News Talks, he'd be.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
Let's goon from the track fields and the court on
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Speaker 2 (02:02:08):
Talksb coming up five to three, our final update on
Live Sport before the end of the show halftime in
Pooka Coe and the Bunnings MBC match between the Homeside Counties,
Monaco and Bay of Plenty, Bay of Plenty twenty one
to seven ahead at halftime, so stretching out their lead
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taking on the North Harbor High Biscus, and it's North
Harbor with a nineteen seventeen lead there at the moment.

Speaker 13 (02:02:41):
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Speaker 2 (02:02:42):
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age of just seventy. Sailor Peter see tomorrow.

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