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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Released on Friday. This is Grand Delvision, brand new music
by Wonderful Key. We sing a songwriter, Georgia Lines, and
not only do we have a new single, we.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Have a whole album.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Georgia's debut record, The Roses Eurocho, was also released Friday.
Now around this time of the year. For the last
two years New Zealand Music Len, of course, Georgia has
been kind enough to come into the studio to chat
and perform for us, and bless her, she has agreed
to come in again for a third straight year. Georgia lines,
this is becoming a tradition. Welcome, thank you. I love
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a tradition and I love this. Thank you so much
my vinyl. I'm going to go home straight away this
afternoon and put this on my record player. But it
almost I'm almost sort of slightly taken back in surprise
that this is your debut album, as it feels like,
I mean, there was the EP. It's not like you
haven't been doing things. I've done a few EPs. You've
been busy. I've been busy, but it feels like this
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has taken a while. Yeah, fruition, it really has.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
And I feel like, you know, the last few years
I've been writing this record, and you know, we recorded
it last year in the space of I think it
was just over a month to be honest in terms
of like the actual recording, getting it down and done,
but the leading up to that has been the last
few years of writing. And you know, it's amazing to
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have it finally here.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Is that quite nerve breaking to go, Okay, two years
of my life I've put into this. Now I'm going
to I'm going to lay this down in a month.
Yeahs terrifying. I've got a month to nail this.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, terrifying. There was part of me that was like,
it's really great, i can just solely focus on this.
I'm going into the studio every single day and throwing
everything I have into this, but then also going we've
got a month and we're only you know, this far
through the album. Well, you know, we've spent more time
on this track than the others, and kind of going, ah,
(02:03):
like we've got a deadline. How do we make this happen?
So terrifying, like it's so exciting, but my highly organized
south and you know, likes to have the time and
make sure that everything's perfect. Was like, oh my gosh,
how do we how do I make an album? I've
done this before with the EPs, but how do I
Actually feels.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Different, And this, of course is we're a producer, Yeah,
that you relate to and can connect with comes into play, right.
The importance of the right producer with the right artist.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
Yeah, And I had Nick Mander's produce this record. Honestly,
the more I've reflected on the timing and the not
even necessarily the timing, but the more I've reflected on
the process of the record, and looking back on that,
I'm like, I could not have had a more perfect person.
I just feel like Nick just in his kindness and
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in his obviously he's like a musical wizard. He's incredible.
But I just feel like I really needed I needed
him to help kind of draw this out of me.
And it's you know, it's a it's my debut record,
and it's a like a.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
What's the word. I mean, you'll hear it and you'll
listen to it. It's it's it's a record. It's a
lot in it. It certainly is, and it deals with
some of the hardest times of your life. And I
heard you say you didn't think about the fact that actually,
after you've expressed all these sort of thoughts and things
on an album, that you might actually have to talk
about the lafterwards. Yeah, and it's still quite hard.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Yeah, And I think I've just realized, like, I'm just
not ready to talk about the songs in the detail
and what they're about. And you know, I feel like
anyone that listens to the record is going to interpret
the songs and go, oh, this, you know, reflects or
puts words to something that's happened in my own life.
And I love that because I'm like, I really hope
that you can listen to these songs and find your
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own kind of meaning and find you know where you
fit in this record.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
But I'm just like, but that should be That's totally okay,
because actually the relationship is between the listener and the album,
not necessarily the listener and the musician. I mean, they
wish we do, we do relate to you and want
to know more about you and things, but that's you
put this album out and it's now for everybody to
bring their own experiences and knowledge to the song and
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interpret them the way they want to write.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
Yeah, watch is amazing and exciting, but also terrifying because
I cannot control how this record is received and how
people listen to it and what they think. And you know,
that's the beautiful thing with creating art. But also like,
please don't drop my heart on the floor.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't think you're gonna have to worry about how
this has been received. So it's singing easier to talk
about the hard things in life than having to talk
about them.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah, I mean, I think there's like a processing that
has happened for me in writing this record. And you know,
it's been over the last two years I've written these songs,
and so there's kind of this journey that's covered the
last two years. And so I think there has been
and it's never been easy to write these songs because
a lot of the time I've written you know, lines
or lyrics and gone, oh can I say that, Like, oh,
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that's quite like confronting or I guess it's like an
invitation that I've been I've given myself book myself, you know,
of writing this record and going just right allow yourself
to say what you need to say, and then we'll
figure out what to do later. But yeah, I guess
maybe it is easier, maybe it's less. I mean it's
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terrifying at the same time, I don't know if it's
ever easier.
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Well, it's a bit like a memoir. It's a bit
like a book that captures a moment in time.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yes, exactly. And I think one thing that I've been
able to put language to for this album is going,
this is my marker. Like we all have significant moments
that happen in our life. We you know, get married,
we have a baby, or you graduate, or you get
a promotion, and you celebrate those moments in very specific ways.
You might go on I mean for me, I like shopping,
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or you might you know, write Jack, thank you, Olivia
cashwat's the best, this little shout out and there. You know,
we people get tattooeds, like there's things that we do
to I guess signify really significant moments. And for me,
like I made this album, this is my marker, and
I guess looking back in twenty years time, that's going
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to be this point in time. This is why I,
you know, was navigating in my life. And this is
the body of work that I created, and I think,
what an amazing and terrifying thing to have and to make.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
We had Trent Dalton in the studio a couple of
weeks ago. He wrote Boy Swallows Universe that was turned
into the Netflix show and another wonderful book, Loler in
the Mirror, And he had a very traumatic childhood and
he has spoken about that about how writing about these
demons has kind of killed them, like he has he's
got rid of those the nightmares through writing about them.
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Has it been a cathartic process for you?
Speaker 4 (07:05):
Yeah, And I think it's like with anything, the more
that you talk about it, or the more that you
process and journey, and you know, for me, like have
a psychologist or like a really healthy outlet to process things,
the easier it gets because it loses its I guess
it's sting or it loses that kind of like the
fear of what if this, you know, is out in
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the open, or all of those kind of things. So
I think for sure there's been like a it's part
of the healing process.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, all we're really doing is making people really curious
about what's been going on last in your life for
the last two years. Look, you can hear the feeling
and the depth in the songs. Is that important to
you that that music has that honesty in their depth?
Speaker 5 (07:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I think the further that I get in my journey,
the more I realize and see that when people listen
to something, they connect really deeply to honesty and truth
and the rawness that you feel in a song. Well,
that's for me anyway. I listen to artists and I
hear that, and I go that touches something within my story,
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And I'm like, well, there's no point for me personally
if I'm writing music that doesn't connect deeply in my
own journey, because you know, is that they're going to
mean it doesn't mean anything to someone that listens. So
that was a big filter for me with this project,
is going, am I saying what I really need to
say here? Because is this going to mean something deeply
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to me in order to like hopefully mean something deeply
to those who listen?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
And we all see through it now, don't we.
Speaker 6 (08:38):
We can.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
We've got a good sort of genuine or authenticity kind
of radar on us, don't we.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
People appreciate it. You know, It's like they go, oh,
she's been real and honest, and it's not this facade
of everything's perfect and yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
I listened to this album and I kind of felt
like everything about this album and the songs is next level.
It's like everything's just gone up not And I feel
like this is kind of where you're at. You're just
back from the US since we spoke last. You've done
you know, you went and you meant to get a
touring agent in the US. You've done two tours in
the US, so actually you've got markets now. It's also
(09:21):
to sell this album too, you know. And it feels
like it is ready. Are you ready?
Speaker 4 (09:26):
I don't know if I mean, I feel like I'm ready,
but I'm also like, am I ever ready? And what
does that mean?
Speaker 3 (09:31):
You know?
Speaker 4 (09:32):
What does it mean to be ready for?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
What?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I feel like this album? Actually before I go there,
I was listening in my car the other day to
like some of the very first music that I just
came on in my car, very first music that I'd
written and recorded, and I was like, oh, we've come.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
A long way.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
This is something, you know, just hearing like I there
was a lot of like perfect rhymes happening in every
every possible way, and just like listening to that and
knowing that this is the and the body of work
that I've created ten years later, I just felt really
proud of myself for kind of sticking the journey out
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and learning and growing and being willing to continue to
learn and grow.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
I'm so told that you have agreed to perform for
us again. You're going to perform Grow Old Without You.
Can you tell me a little bit about this song
maybe before you launch into it.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
For me, Like the last few years, like I've listened
to a lot of Billie Holiday, I've watched a lot
of Disney movies, a lot of like the original animation
of the Disney movies, and found myself so inspired by
the opening scene credits, this beautiful Disney orchestral thing, and
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I really wanted that to kind of be in my
album and Grow Without use the opening the opening track
to the album, and so I really wanted like those movies,
like this opening orchestral kind of Disney feel to open
my album. And Grand Illusion is the booking too that
which kind of is like this Disney close and so
(11:10):
this is like if you listen to the actual audio,
you hear these beautiful strings in this Disney esque arrangement,
which I love. So this is growled without you.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
I've been searching for before bird last word of find me.
Speaker 5 (11:50):
Some nasty change find No, they need to come out.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
I don't quite to see this.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
I'm so scared to be alone. You're all I've ever know.
It's true, but I wasn't breathing, so I had to
go dancing along for not have to let you go.
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It's true, but I will grow home though.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
I can feel.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
Your pain every single day, but I have to keep back.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
No one time would know if you love me? Well,
hope you.
Speaker 6 (13:04):
Know where to find me.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
I don't know. Cried had to say.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
Ah, I'm so scarce be alone. Sure all I've even known.
It's true, but I wasn't breathing, sod.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
Had to go dancing or mow.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
Not have to let you go? It's true, but I
will crow over you.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
Who You're all I ever want.
Speaker 6 (14:14):
I hope you always knows. Please, I hope you see
it's just fun now not always. We have to go
our wrong ways. Please come back to me. Uh Hi,
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I'm so scared be alone. You're all I've ever had
to go dancing?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
Sure love them?
Speaker 5 (15:17):
That oh.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
So beautiful. I don't know how you do that. I'm
so jealous of people like you that can come in
with your keyboarding and then you just I think it's
great that you're leaving the music speak for itself. I
think it does speak for it.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
I think it does so Georgia lines, thank you so much.
Look we'll see you this time next year.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Yes, I think I think we make it a thing.
Net someone brings some scones or something.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Look look well, look as the host, I should be
offering your scones or something. But beast of luck for
the album launch and I can't wait to hear what
the next year has in store for you. Best of
luck and thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Thank you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (16:14):
And if you're keen to listen to Georgia's album, The
Rose of Jericho is on all streaming platforms now.
Speaker 1 (16:21):
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