June 22, 2024 • 10 mins
This week on the Sunday Panel,Gold FM and Newstalk ZB host Andrew Dickens and podcaster and broadcaster Brodie Kane joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the week - and more!
The Interislander ferry Aratere ran aground on Friday night after suffering a steering failure - it was successfully refloated last night. Is this a bad look? Do we need to replace the ferries?
King Charles has opted to skip visiting New Zealand on his upcoming tour Down Under, amid increased concerns about his health. Is this the right call? Do New Zealanders care?
How disappointed are we with last night's Warriors loss. Can the team bounce back?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talk ZEDB and joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Now for the panel, we have got Brody Caine, podcaster
and broadcaster Good Morning, Good Morning, and Gold FM and
news Talk ZB host Andrew Dickens. How are you doing, Andrew?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm very well, thank you very much, but disappointed in
our country.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What's disappointing you today? Andrew? What's on the list?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
James Waynes? Pylons and fairies? Mate? I mean, who told
us that we were a grown up country.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We have had a little issue with asset maintenance this week.
Let's focus on the fairies because the oraitary grounding is
a bad look for everybody involved, for the government because
they don't have a plan to upgrade the ferries yet.
For key we Rail because we'd like the service to
be safe and reliable. Andrew, are you confident that key
we Rail can maintain the fleet?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
No? You know, you know when I got worried about
all this, I'll be worried all about all of this
for about thirty or forty years. This is a ferry
system that was designed or built in the sixties. Strange enough,
in the sixty years since we have grown and the
need to change, and no one's updated a thank you,
Richard Prebble. But when I really got worried was at
the last budget. And I don't know if anyone noticed.
(01:20):
It wasn't highly reported at the time, but in the
budget was a budget for the buying or leasing of
a mega tug to save a faery that had lost
power or steerage in the Cook Strait. So in other words,
the government was budgeting for a failure of a faery.
The government was budgeting for failure and not for success.
(01:42):
And I know that one point five billion, there's a
lot of money, and they should never have had to
spend that. They should have spent it thirty years ago.
But at the same time they had already budgeted for
a tug to save a fery in one of the
most notorious waters of the world with people and freight
on it. I mean, who are the grown ups?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, you could say they've been grown up because there's
been a lot of calls for there to be a
tug that could actually handle any kind of disaster which
place in the Cook.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Straight Yeah, but it was also right after they canceled
the buying of new fairies.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So does what worry you about that? Andrew imply that
they're not going to replace the fairies. They're going to
get the type to save the fairy.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, they have to replace the fairies. The fairies are
going to sink. They will need replacing unless you want
to separate the North Island and the South Island into
separate countries. And I think there might be quite a
lot of people, particularly south of the Strait, would think
that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Quite possibly, Brodie, welcome.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yes, Hi, their team. Look the cook straight. Yeah, I've
spent a lot of time in the cooks right. Actually,
a couple of fun facts to you. My mother has
swung the cookstraight and my father used to work on
the other hooda Into Islander. So I know this piece
of water quite well, and it is notorious and it's dangerous,
but the most important thing is it connects the two islands,
(02:58):
and it is crucial for our country to operate effectively.
And the fact that what happened yesterday or the day
before was allowed to happen, and we obviously had the
recent incident with the Kayitarki losing power and you think
what next. It's very very obviously fortunate that no one
was hurt and that the boat was able to be
(03:22):
You know what, what's the opposite of a run aground refloated?
I just like it is successive governments over decades, as
Andrew said, that have just is this one of those
things that they've all put in the two hard baskets?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And you said, everybody, Bradie, I know what you're looking for, Brady.
Everybody kicks the ball downfield, everybody kicks the bottle further effect, Oh,
we can't do that right now, you know. And you go, well,
someone's going to have to do it at some stage.
If you run a business, you know that you're going
to have to spend money maintaining your assets.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
We just don't the But guys, the government is assuring
us that they are committed to new ships. But what
they need to do is they need to get on
with I mean, they've had the advisory board in action.
They need to get on with presenting that plan. And
I think they'll be kicking themselves. They didn't had that
plan settled before this happened.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And the worst thing is when they decided not to fund,
like pulled out of funding the mega boats right. I
mean I kind of look at this and go, look
how much we spend on roads and roads are important obviously,
billions of dollars on roads. This is actually important, Like
we can't really do much without it, so suck it up,
(04:31):
spend the money. Otherwise again you're going to have a
boat stuck on the ground. You've got an air Force
plane that can't leave. We're all going to be stuck
here again.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It struck me as the cancing of Irex. It was
like it was right after the election that Nicola Willis
had a piece of paper come across and said, look
at this, that's one point five billion dollars. She's on
a fat way to kill government spending. She went, here's
an easy political victory. And politics is politics, it's not leadership,
you know, And they could do. It's so frustrating, guys, No.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I couldn't agree with you more. Soon we get on
with sorting it the better. Now it's been reported that
the is going to skip New Zealand on his October
tour down Under. He was coming to Australia and New
Zealand and some more, and he's now decided that he
needs to pull back a little bit he's been overdoing
it post his cancer treatment, and he's going to skip
(05:22):
New Zealand. And I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm
not a royalist at all. I'm not hugely interested in
the Royal family. But I was a bit disappointed in this.
And I don't know whether it's because I'm just being
competitive with Australia or whether I'd actually like to see
the King visit before he gets much older anybody else
kind of feeling of its sort of sentimental.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
That was a kind way.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Hey, that was a.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Kind way to say before he died, didn't you possibly? Yeah, look,
I think do you know when I read this, I
sort of thought, oh, well, it's funny because I've always
been fascinated in the Royal family. They do intrigue me.
But I just feel like that no one will care.
I don't. I don't think that too many people in
(06:05):
New Zealand actually be too concerned about this. We've got
you know, cost of living crisis, people just getting by.
I don't even realize. I don't even think that people
will be too bothered because an actual fact, everyone just
needs to be getting on, you know. I don't think
people will be worried. I'm not worried you.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And it's for fun. It's for fun, it's for distraction
the Well family. To a certain degree, we do contribute
towards their upkeeping now part of our constitutional makeup. And
that would be nice if the King actually paid a visit,
because he's only just got on the throne. But unfortunately
he went and caught cancer, and that's unfortunate. When I
first read it, I thought, all right, so Australia is
the favorite sun. Eh New Zealand, wance are we? Why
(06:46):
are we to you? Are we hurry to you? Is
that who we are to you?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
That's why. And then I realized that the only reason
he's coming south of the border is to go to
them of Heads of Government meeting, which is in sum Are.
So we had a choice of two things. Either come
to Australia, go to some are, come to New Zealand,
go to some are. Probably it's sure to go to Australia,
go to some Are. He has to go to somehow
because of the whole common were going to be there.
And so then I thought, okay, Dud's got cancer. Cut
(07:10):
you some slack, but if you get over it, come
down before you die, preferably.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's probably explained how I was feeling very well there Andrew.
Thank you now, Brodie. I saw that you were very
disappointed with the Warriors last night, which God, quite frankly,
you should be. I'm not quite too sure what happened.
What would you suggest the Warriors do next?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So what wob has to do next is get rid
of all the seniors. You may remember two remarkable games
that the Warriors played without any of their eighteen and
they won them, and they played with heart and manna,
and it was all these young boys proving themselves. And
ever since the seniors has come back, it has been rubbish.
(07:53):
And I think that they should all be grounded. Quite frankly,
like if I was weby last night, I'd be like,
you're grounded, you can't have nice things. Go away and
think about what you've done, and let's let these young
boys played like they were. And I'll tell you what, though,
here's something that's a little bit controversial. I'd be putting
to Mighty Martin at seven and I'd be giving Sean
Johnson a little bit of a breather to Mighty Martin
(08:15):
at seven is a key player. He's been playing wonderfully
well there when Sean wasn't there and the game was
moving faster. I can't actually speak on what on earth
went on last night, but as I say, ground them all,
get those young boys back and try and salvage something,
because that was shoulderstroying.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Brodie's bang on the other thing is make sure all
games are played at Mount Smart from now on. Never
travel because obviously they don't like traveling. They go lazy,
they go, you know, they go tropo, they go, I
don't know where they go, but their head goes somewhere.
And I agree to Marie Martin Shull be playing. He's
got hunger and he's got ambition, whereas Sean is just
maintaining his legacy. I'm sorry, Sean, You're an amazing person,
but at the moment you maybe quite right tak a
(08:59):
little lesson. Look at this. Let the young guys go.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You know, yep, Brody Kane.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Sex sex.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I didn't watch. I didn't watch the game. It just
blew my mind. I've got to open up, open up
the phone. News on here dot com. I went, what,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It will it was probably.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah problem the table team just let's just not even
talk about it anymore day.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Okay, so the court the call on our house, Brody,
was that's a season over from the seventy expert. No,
that doesn't.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I mean what we love and what we've loved for
years is that there's never a dull moment with the Warriors,
and actually, in fact, that could be, that could be
the right turning point. That's how we operate. That's why
we love them, that's why we turn up because somehow
next week we'll go, Okay, come on, boys, and they're
at home on Saturday night, and I bet you it
will still.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Be a sellout and it's not in league and also
super regular. These days, it's not who makes the playoffs,
it's who doesn't. Because because more people make playoffs than
don't make playoffs, you know they can still make it
from where they are.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Brody Kine Andrew Dickins, thank you very much for your
time today on the panel.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks it B from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talk ZEDB and joining me.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Now for the panel, we have got Brody Caine, podcaster
and broadcaster Good Morning, Good Morning, and Gold FM and
news Talk ZB host Andrew Dickens. How are you doing, Andrew?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
I'm very well, thank you very much, but disappointed in
our country.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
What's disappointing you today? Andrew? What's on the list?
Speaker 3 (00:33):
James Waynes? Pylons and fairies? Mate? I mean, who told
us that we were a grown up country.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
We have had a little issue with asset maintenance this week.
Let's focus on the fairies because the oraitary grounding is
a bad look for everybody involved, for the government because
they don't have a plan to upgrade the ferries yet.
For key we Rail because we'd like the service to
be safe and reliable. Andrew, are you confident that key
we Rail can maintain the fleet?
Speaker 3 (00:58):
No? You know, you know when I got worried about
all this, I'll be worried all about all of this
for about thirty or forty years. This is a ferry
system that was designed or built in the sixties. Strange enough,
in the sixty years since we have grown and the
need to change, and no one's updated a thank you,
Richard Prebble. But when I really got worried was at
the last budget. And I don't know if anyone noticed.
(01:20):
It wasn't highly reported at the time, but in the
budget was a budget for the buying or leasing of
a mega tug to save a faery that had lost
power or steerage in the Cook Strait. So in other words,
the government was budgeting for a failure of a faery.
The government was budgeting for failure and not for success.
(01:42):
And I know that one point five billion, there's a
lot of money, and they should never have had to
spend that. They should have spent it thirty years ago.
But at the same time they had already budgeted for
a tug to save a fery in one of the
most notorious waters of the world with people and freight
on it. I mean, who are the grown ups?
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well, you could say they've been grown up because there's
been a lot of calls for there to be a
tug that could actually handle any kind of disaster which
place in the Cook.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Straight Yeah, but it was also right after they canceled
the buying of new fairies.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So does what worry you about that? Andrew imply that
they're not going to replace the fairies. They're going to
get the type to save the fairy.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
No, they have to replace the fairies. The fairies are
going to sink. They will need replacing unless you want
to separate the North Island and the South Island into
separate countries. And I think there might be quite a
lot of people, particularly south of the Strait, would think
that's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Quite possibly, Brodie, welcome.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yes, Hi, their team. Look the cook straight. Yeah, I've
spent a lot of time in the cooks right. Actually,
a couple of fun facts to you. My mother has
swung the cookstraight and my father used to work on
the other hooda Into Islander. So I know this piece
of water quite well, and it is notorious and it's dangerous,
but the most important thing is it connects the two islands,
(02:58):
and it is crucial for our country to operate effectively.
And the fact that what happened yesterday or the day
before was allowed to happen, and we obviously had the
recent incident with the Kayitarki losing power and you think
what next. It's very very obviously fortunate that no one
was hurt and that the boat was able to be
(03:22):
You know what, what's the opposite of a run aground refloated?
I just like it is successive governments over decades, as
Andrew said, that have just is this one of those
things that they've all put in the two hard baskets?
Speaker 3 (03:39):
And you said, everybody, Bradie, I know what you're looking for, Brady.
Everybody kicks the ball downfield, everybody kicks the bottle further effect, Oh,
we can't do that right now, you know. And you go, well,
someone's going to have to do it at some stage.
If you run a business, you know that you're going
to have to spend money maintaining your assets.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
We just don't the But guys, the government is assuring
us that they are committed to new ships. But what
they need to do is they need to get on
with I mean, they've had the advisory board in action.
They need to get on with presenting that plan. And
I think they'll be kicking themselves. They didn't had that
plan settled before this happened.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
And the worst thing is when they decided not to fund,
like pulled out of funding the mega boats right. I
mean I kind of look at this and go, look
how much we spend on roads and roads are important obviously,
billions of dollars on roads. This is actually important, Like
we can't really do much without it, so suck it up,
(04:31):
spend the money. Otherwise again you're going to have a
boat stuck on the ground. You've got an air Force
plane that can't leave. We're all going to be stuck
here again.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
It struck me as the cancing of Irex. It was
like it was right after the election that Nicola Willis
had a piece of paper come across and said, look
at this, that's one point five billion dollars. She's on
a fat way to kill government spending. She went, here's
an easy political victory. And politics is politics, it's not leadership,
you know, And they could do. It's so frustrating, guys, No.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I couldn't agree with you more. Soon we get on
with sorting it the better. Now it's been reported that
the is going to skip New Zealand on his October
tour down Under. He was coming to Australia and New
Zealand and some more, and he's now decided that he
needs to pull back a little bit he's been overdoing
it post his cancer treatment, and he's going to skip
(05:22):
New Zealand. And I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm
not a royalist at all. I'm not hugely interested in
the Royal family. But I was a bit disappointed in this.
And I don't know whether it's because I'm just being
competitive with Australia or whether I'd actually like to see
the King visit before he gets much older anybody else
kind of feeling of its sort of sentimental.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
That was a kind way.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Hey, that was a.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Kind way to say before he died, didn't you possibly? Yeah, look,
I think do you know when I read this, I
sort of thought, oh, well, it's funny because I've always
been fascinated in the Royal family. They do intrigue me.
But I just feel like that no one will care.
I don't. I don't think that too many people in
(06:05):
New Zealand actually be too concerned about this. We've got
you know, cost of living crisis, people just getting by.
I don't even realize. I don't even think that people
will be too bothered because an actual fact, everyone just
needs to be getting on, you know. I don't think
people will be worried. I'm not worried you.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And it's for fun. It's for fun, it's for distraction
the Well family. To a certain degree, we do contribute
towards their upkeeping now part of our constitutional makeup. And
that would be nice if the King actually paid a visit,
because he's only just got on the throne. But unfortunately
he went and caught cancer, and that's unfortunate. When I
first read it, I thought, all right, so Australia is
the favorite sun. Eh New Zealand, wance are we? Why
(06:46):
are we to you? Are we hurry to you? Is
that who we are to you?
Speaker 2 (06:49):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
That's why. And then I realized that the only reason
he's coming south of the border is to go to
them of Heads of Government meeting, which is in sum Are.
So we had a choice of two things. Either come
to Australia, go to some are, come to New Zealand,
go to some are. Probably it's sure to go to Australia,
go to some Are. He has to go to somehow
because of the whole common were going to be there.
And so then I thought, okay, Dud's got cancer. Cut
(07:10):
you some slack, but if you get over it, come
down before you die, preferably.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
That's probably explained how I was feeling very well there Andrew.
Thank you now, Brodie. I saw that you were very
disappointed with the Warriors last night, which God, quite frankly,
you should be. I'm not quite too sure what happened.
What would you suggest the Warriors do next?
Speaker 4 (07:31):
So what wob has to do next is get rid
of all the seniors. You may remember two remarkable games
that the Warriors played without any of their eighteen and
they won them, and they played with heart and manna,
and it was all these young boys proving themselves. And
ever since the seniors has come back, it has been rubbish.
(07:53):
And I think that they should all be grounded. Quite frankly,
like if I was weby last night, I'd be like,
you're grounded, you can't have nice things. Go away and
think about what you've done, and let's let these young
boys played like they were. And I'll tell you what, though,
here's something that's a little bit controversial. I'd be putting
to Mighty Martin at seven and I'd be giving Sean
Johnson a little bit of a breather to Mighty Martin
(08:15):
at seven is a key player. He's been playing wonderfully
well there when Sean wasn't there and the game was
moving faster. I can't actually speak on what on earth
went on last night, but as I say, ground them all,
get those young boys back and try and salvage something,
because that was shoulderstroying.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
Brodie's bang on the other thing is make sure all
games are played at Mount Smart from now on. Never
travel because obviously they don't like traveling. They go lazy,
they go, you know, they go tropo, they go, I
don't know where they go, but their head goes somewhere.
And I agree to Marie Martin Shull be playing. He's
got hunger and he's got ambition, whereas Sean is just
maintaining his legacy. I'm sorry, Sean, You're an amazing person,
but at the moment you maybe quite right tak a
(08:59):
little lesson. Look at this. Let the young guys go.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
You know, yep, Brody Kane.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Sex sex.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
I didn't watch. I didn't watch the game. It just
blew my mind. I've got to open up, open up
the phone. News on here dot com. I went, what,
oh my god.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
It will it was probably.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah problem the table team just let's just not even
talk about it anymore day.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Okay, so the court the call on our house, Brody,
was that's a season over from the seventy expert. No,
that doesn't.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I mean what we love and what we've loved for
years is that there's never a dull moment with the Warriors,
and actually, in fact, that could be, that could be
the right turning point. That's how we operate. That's why
we love them, that's why we turn up because somehow
next week we'll go, Okay, come on, boys, and they're
at home on Saturday night, and I bet you it
will still.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
Be a sellout and it's not in league and also
super regular. These days, it's not who makes the playoffs,
it's who doesn't. Because because more people make playoffs than
don't make playoffs, you know they can still make it
from where they are.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Brody Kine Andrew Dickins, thank you very much for your
time today on the panel.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks it B from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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