The All Blacks are mightily relieved after the 16-15 win over England in Dunedin to start coach Scott Robertson's tenure.
The ABs were kept try-less in the second spell but two Damian McKenzie penalties edged them home.
ZB rugby commentator Elliott Smith said this match would have come with plenty of lessons for Robertson.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Now. Last night we finally got to see Scott Robertson's
All Blacks in action.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Damian McKenzie tex texted at the touch and knew we're
right of All Black Rugby begins with an old patient
test match time wrestle U zeven sixteen hes On fifteen.
The All Blacks wodn't buy.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
What Elliot Smith called the game for z B last night,
and he joins me now from Dunedin.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Good morning, Good morning, Francesca.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
First head out for Scott Robertson's All Blacks. What'd you
make of it?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Look tense, tied everything that a test match is really
and I think there would have been some lessons there
for Scott Robertson and his coaching team around what to
expect from test match footy. They weren't really able to
implement a style or a game plan that they would
have liked, and that was credit see by the way
that England defended, suffocate and swallowed up the All Blacks
(01:10):
attacking players when they were looking to go forward. They
couldn't get much meter reage throughout the course of the night.
So if we're looking for a Scott Robinson game plan,
it's probably going to take a few more tests to
a mood, but a winman as the winner is a
win and the All Blacks on the board. But twenty
twenty four and a bit of a nail by.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
This did the starting lineup work?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I think quite and larger it did. I think Stephen
Peterefetter showed a lovely hands a Bartie Savia for the
All Black second try of the match. It wouldn't surprise
me necessarily to see Boden Barrett switch back there for
Eden Park this week and Peter Fetter used as an
impact player. But I think they've got a pretty good
forty five to fifty minutes out of Stephen Petefetter before
that change was made, and they kind of needed to
(01:54):
make it at that point with England going ahead by
five points and just needed to change something up in
terms of their tactics. But I thought fit at a
really good out. Think Sama Penny fe now probably maybe
a little bit quiet in the starting pack and that
was one of the other perhaps contentious or fifty fifty
selections that Scott Robertson made and I think Damien McKenzie
(02:15):
at ten was always going to start at ten, but
it's all late in the game with the timed out penalty.
Just a couple of things that Damien needs to work
on in his game heading for. But by and large, look,
I think the All Blacks will be relatively happy with that.
It could have gone either way, and the All Black
seamed out on top, so that is a positive start
(02:36):
to the campaign. And you know, there's thirteen more of
these to get ready for as the All Black's unfold,
and I think Scott Robertson and the team will have
learned the lessons from what we saw last night and
hopefully implement them as they go through the next a
few matches.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Razor was standing throughout the game. He provided his own
form of entertainment for us all sitting at home watching him.
He didn't hold back on the emotion clearly, you know
he was feeling that he was feeling the stress.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, he's right in the waves of the game, was sure,
it's good to say, and he said postmatch that he's
sort of feeling a bit disappointed at full time because
they didn't really play the game plan that they were
hoping to and that was credit to England and obviously
some of the All Blacks eras as well contributed to
that that at line out time or handling, whatever it
(03:23):
might have been, so they couldn't implement their own gap.
It was quickly reminded. He said after the match that
this is test Matt Dragby. You know, you take the win.
However they come and you know, the All Blacks lost
their last match by a point in the World Cup Final.
They win this one by a point and it only
matters when you're on the right side of the Legit absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Look, I don't I really enjoyed the first half. I
thought everyone's in this, We're all in this. Everyone on
this field is playing with all they've got. By the
second half I started to get a little bored out.
Yet it felt like both teams were playing similar styles
and no one quite knew how to deal with the opposition.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, and I think that's probably symptomatic for the All
Blacks of only having ten days in camps, that they
probably don't have those tools yet necessarily to pick apart
defenses that they might have otherwise had, and hopefully that
will grow over time. England, I thought suffocated the All
Blacks really really well on defense. This didn't allow them
(04:19):
line to speed, which is where the All Blacks wanted
allow them space. Maybe there was a couple of possible
contentires off side where perhaps England on a couple of
occasions the All Blacks on one could have been pinged
that they wasn't a regularly observed off sideline. I didn't
think play the referee or otherwise. Still had a pretty
good game, So over time, it's hope that it's a
(04:41):
bit more implemented as the game goes on. But it
was just it got into an armory, so it was
very much played between the twenty twos in that second
spell rather than inside it, and we didn't get too
many attacking chances. You know, the All Blacks kept trialists
in the second spell, having to rely on Damie McKenzie's
boots to get them home. They wouldn't spotted things for
next week, hopefully that they can find ways to unlock
(05:03):
the England defense and get some more tries on the boards.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yes, and let's hope Marcus Smith doesn't find his boot
important is shoe to deal with the Shirts. So a
lot of talk in the news room this morning about
what on earth were they thinking with the new shirt
shirts and the white collars that immediate we got duty
and a lot of comments about the shirt.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You'll bleak, yeah, yeah, look at it's always a talking point. Look,
I like the collar being back. I think it's a
little too long for my liking, Francesca, No, I'm no
free fashion expert, but I think that that sort of
long collar doesn't quite suite I do like the white
collar traditional you know, the building next jerseys are the
older era that we saw, and I like the collar back,
(05:48):
but it's probably just a little too long for my liking,
if I'm entirely honest with you. But yeah, it's maybe
they'll have a few tweaks. I don't know. I thought
it looked all right in the park. But yeah, as
I said, no fashion expert, but look if the if
yourself when the newsroom they're raising this shoe and then
clearly it's a white to ressue a play here, Elliot.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You're probably too busy last night. But Joe Schmitt's Astralia
got a twenty five sixteen win over Wells in his
first game as coach. He'll be happy with that one.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He will be and look, I've watched the second half
of that one, got through the media conferences, et cetera.
I thought that was a very performance from the Wallabies.
It was sort of teetering for a point and then
they managed just to pull ahead of Wales. And it's
a couple of out standing second half tries for the
Wallabies just to put a bit of space, pin themselves
in Wales and give when they lost to Welles and
(06:37):
effectively ended the World Cup last year forty points six
new coaching regime. To come out on the other side
and win that, I think is a good start for
Joe Shmant under Australia and the promising signs I think
for them from their first set out.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Thanks so much, as always, Elliott for your time this morning,
very much appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks they'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talk ZEDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Now. Last night we finally got to see Scott Robertson's
All Blacks in action.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
Damian McKenzie tex texted at the touch and knew we're
right of All Black Rugby begins with an old patient
test match time wrestle U zeven sixteen hes On fifteen.
The All Blacks wodn't buy.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
What Elliot Smith called the game for z B last night,
and he joins me now from Dunedin.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
Good morning, Good morning, Francesca.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
First head out for Scott Robertson's All Blacks. What'd you
make of it?
Speaker 4 (00:45):
Look tense, tied everything that a test match is really
and I think there would have been some lessons there
for Scott Robertson and his coaching team around what to
expect from test match footy. They weren't really able to
implement a style or a game plan that they would
have liked, and that was credit see by the way
that England defended, suffocate and swallowed up the All Blacks
(01:10):
attacking players when they were looking to go forward. They
couldn't get much meter reage throughout the course of the night.
So if we're looking for a Scott Robinson game plan,
it's probably going to take a few more tests to
a mood, but a winman as the winner is a
win and the All Blacks on the board. But twenty
twenty four and a bit of a nail by.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
This did the starting lineup work?
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I think quite and larger it did. I think Stephen
Peterefetter showed a lovely hands a Bartie Savia for the
All Black second try of the match. It wouldn't surprise
me necessarily to see Boden Barrett switch back there for
Eden Park this week and Peter Fetter used as an
impact player. But I think they've got a pretty good
forty five to fifty minutes out of Stephen Petefetter before
that change was made, and they kind of needed to
(01:54):
make it at that point with England going ahead by
five points and just needed to change something up in
terms of their tactics. But I thought fit at a
really good out. Think Sama Penny fe now probably maybe
a little bit quiet in the starting pack and that
was one of the other perhaps contentious or fifty fifty
selections that Scott Robertson made and I think Damien McKenzie
(02:15):
at ten was always going to start at ten, but
it's all late in the game with the timed out penalty.
Just a couple of things that Damien needs to work
on in his game heading for. But by and large, look,
I think the All Blacks will be relatively happy with that.
It could have gone either way, and the All Black
seamed out on top, so that is a positive start
(02:36):
to the campaign. And you know, there's thirteen more of
these to get ready for as the All Black's unfold,
and I think Scott Robertson and the team will have
learned the lessons from what we saw last night and
hopefully implement them as they go through the next a
few matches.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Razor was standing throughout the game. He provided his own
form of entertainment for us all sitting at home watching him.
He didn't hold back on the emotion clearly, you know
he was feeling that he was feeling the stress.
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Yeah, he's right in the waves of the game, was sure,
it's good to say, and he said postmatch that he's
sort of feeling a bit disappointed at full time because
they didn't really play the game plan that they were
hoping to and that was credit to England and obviously
some of the All Blacks eras as well contributed to
that that at line out time or handling, whatever it
(03:23):
might have been, so they couldn't implement their own gap.
It was quickly reminded. He said after the match that
this is test Matt Dragby. You know, you take the win.
However they come and you know, the All Blacks lost
their last match by a point in the World Cup Final.
They win this one by a point and it only
matters when you're on the right side of the Legit absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Look, I don't I really enjoyed the first half. I
thought everyone's in this, We're all in this. Everyone on
this field is playing with all they've got. By the
second half I started to get a little bored out.
Yet it felt like both teams were playing similar styles
and no one quite knew how to deal with the opposition.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Yeah, and I think that's probably symptomatic for the All
Blacks of only having ten days in camps, that they
probably don't have those tools yet necessarily to pick apart
defenses that they might have otherwise had, and hopefully that
will grow over time. England, I thought suffocated the All
Blacks really really well on defense. This didn't allow them
(04:19):
line to speed, which is where the All Blacks wanted
allow them space. Maybe there was a couple of possible
contentires off side where perhaps England on a couple of
occasions the All Blacks on one could have been pinged
that they wasn't a regularly observed off sideline. I didn't
think play the referee or otherwise. Still had a pretty
good game, So over time, it's hope that it's a
(04:41):
bit more implemented as the game goes on. But it
was just it got into an armory, so it was
very much played between the twenty twos in that second
spell rather than inside it, and we didn't get too
many attacking chances. You know, the All Blacks kept trialists
in the second spell, having to rely on Damie McKenzie's
boots to get them home. They wouldn't spotted things for
next week, hopefully that they can find ways to unlock
(05:03):
the England defense and get some more tries on the boards.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yes, and let's hope Marcus Smith doesn't find his boot
important is shoe to deal with the Shirts. So a
lot of talk in the news room this morning about
what on earth were they thinking with the new shirt
shirts and the white collars that immediate we got duty
and a lot of comments about the shirt.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
You'll bleak, yeah, yeah, look at it's always a talking point. Look,
I like the collar being back. I think it's a
little too long for my liking, Francesca, No, I'm no
free fashion expert, but I think that that sort of
long collar doesn't quite suite I do like the white
collar traditional you know, the building next jerseys are the
older era that we saw, and I like the collar back,
(05:48):
but it's probably just a little too long for my liking,
if I'm entirely honest with you. But yeah, it's maybe
they'll have a few tweaks. I don't know. I thought
it looked all right in the park. But yeah, as
I said, no fashion expert, but look if the if
yourself when the newsroom they're raising this shoe and then
clearly it's a white to ressue a play here, Elliot.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
You're probably too busy last night. But Joe Schmitt's Astralia
got a twenty five sixteen win over Wells in his
first game as coach. He'll be happy with that one.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
He will be and look, I've watched the second half
of that one, got through the media conferences, et cetera.
I thought that was a very performance from the Wallabies.
It was sort of teetering for a point and then
they managed just to pull ahead of Wales. And it's
a couple of out standing second half tries for the
Wallabies just to put a bit of space, pin themselves
in Wales and give when they lost to Welles and
(06:37):
effectively ended the World Cup last year forty points six
new coaching regime. To come out on the other side
and win that, I think is a good start for
Joe Shmant under Australia and the promising signs I think
for them from their first set out.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Thanks so much, as always, Elliott for your time this morning,
very much appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks they'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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