July 6, 2024 • 9 mins
This week on The Sunday Panel, Coast day host Lorna Riley and senior PR consultant at One Plus One Communications, Damien Venuto, joined in on a discussion about the following issues of the day - and more!
What did we think of Stuff's new Three News bulletin? Do we think more people will tune in?
Experts have voiced concerns with the Government's new plan for housing, with some claiming it will lead to cheap, slum-like developments cropping up. Will these changes fix the housing crisis - or create new problems?
All Blacks collars - yay, or nay?
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And joining us on the Sunday Session Panel. Today we
have got co s day host Laurna, Riley Hi, Lorna Morning,
and we have Singer pr Consultant and one plus one
Communications Damien Venuto.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How are you, Damien, I'm really well, Francisca.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Thanks, good to have you both with us. So did
you see the three News bulletin last night?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Laurna?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Did you make that appointment viewing?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I didn't because I was busy being mum uber at
the time. I'm sure you can relate, but I did
watch it later on demand. I thought it was easy
to see. It's part of the Stuff family, with the
modern graphics, less formal, maybe than we're used to with
a news bulletin, perhaps aimed at a younger audience, and
maybe because I was watching on demand, but I thought
there was a few teething issues that audio sync without
(00:57):
with a live cross in the news room. But generally
I thought it was better than I thought it was
going to be. They had an exclusive the Jujan story,
Paula Penfold bring in her journalist. It gravitas to it.
Great to make an impact. They're good to see the
face of the bulletin too. Samantha Hayes with a story
that I'm aware was also an exclusive, a heartwarming one.
Gotta make some stories. Didn't feel like a lot of filler,
(01:17):
which often weekend bulletins can do, and I love the
interactivity of it. There was a link to the stuff
Quiz topical question to hold you through the break. There
was a live poll results at the end of the
bulletin and I thought Laura are Too pos did a
great job as well.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I think she did as well. A couple of things there, Damien,
the half hour. It makes sense in a weekend I think,
I believe.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you don't want it to be
too long and you don't want it to be too short.
That it's criticized for being light and low on detail.
The one problem is that I don't know if you
watched at Francesca. I didn't, so I can pretty much
confirm that two out of three people didn't tune in live.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
To watch that.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Fundamentally fundamentally the problem, well, no, the problem is that
I only tuned in because it was new.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I don't normally get my news from sitting down and
watching the news at six o'clock. And I don't think
I don't think any of us. I don't think you do,
probably do either, Lorna. There's other things going on in
the world, and I listen to the radio and I
read newspapers online and things. That's where I get my new.
So I watched it out of curiosity. I thought they
did really well, possibly because they had given us kind
of the heads up that it's that they're not fully
(02:25):
happy with the product yet it's not where they want
it to be. So I think they set the expectations
quite low, so I thought. But like you, Laura, I
thought it was pretty slick, pretty snappy. Technically it did
kind of go quite well, quite busy, quite bold, lot
of purple. Yeah, But I think I think if you
were if you were sitting you know, if you were
(02:45):
concerned about the media, Damien, and that there wouldn't be another,
you know, real option at six of something else to watch,
I think you can rest assured there's there's absolutely another
product there for you.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, there is another product.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
My concern is that I don't know how long it's sustainable,
because let's say said previously, media works tried for years
and years and years.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Discovery tied for years and years and years. Nobody could make.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
This concept as profitable as what it needs to be
to be sustainable. And that's really the challenge that stuff's
going to have as they move forward. It's the idea
of a sustainable news product. You can make a news
product that's good enough. Whether that's financially sustainable as a
quite a different question.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No, I agree. I was trying not to look forward
too much, Damien. I was going, well done, you got
to air you know, Laurna. You could always you could
almost I could almost sort of feel sort of the
sigh of relief the minute they got to sex thirty
and the round of applause that they gave themselves for
getting to that point, and a small amount of time, yeah,
that they've taken to kind of that they've had to
(03:48):
get this up and running.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
For sure, And we heard lots of stories about, you know,
arguments in the news room and all that kind of thing,
and I think, yeah, they did a great job all
things considered.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
We had an expert on this morning who was concerned
housing changes by the government might mean that we end
up with cheap, slum like developments. Damien, Are you concerned
what we're seeing with the moves that the government has made,
even though they're not hugely different to what we kind
of already have in.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Place, Franciscott, I think I come from a slightly different perspective,
and maybe it comes from the fact that I've actually
lived in a country that does have slum like developments,
actually several countries that have some like developments, And what
I found is that some like developments aren't the product
of the quality of the building. It's the product of
(04:35):
inequality across the society. If people don't have enough money
to pay for accommodation, they're going to live wherever they can,
and that's really the concern that New Zealand has. I
think that anything that will increase building, make affordable housing
a little bit more accessible to more people has to
be a good move because the status quo hasn't worked.
It's created an affordability crisis in New Zealand that that's
(04:58):
locked out a lot of people. So if there are steps,
incremental steps they can move toward improving that situation, I think.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That that's really good.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
So I'm kind of in favor of trying a few
different things, trying to make housing a little bit more affordable,
building a few more houses. I'm definitely in favor of
that because it's what the country needs. Obviously, there are
concerns if this goes the wrong way, we might end
up with another leaky building crisis down the road. But
I really think that affordability needs to be increased across
(05:28):
the housing portfolio. There's a real need for more people
to have access to affordable homes.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Lorna, Yeah, look, I think it's understandable than an architecture
and planning professor might criticize whose quickly build, but you know,
as long as they're clean and dry, they'll probably be
a much better option for people than draft the old bungalow.
But I think there's a big worry here the mass
of info housing that we're seeing around infrastructure, essential services,
road and public transport. We have a problem in many
(05:56):
of our major cities would desperately needed upgrades on storm
water and wastewater system, and we're creating major traffic bottlenecks.
In our biggest city, you know, Auckland built on a
dismiss Many new builds are happening in suburbs where there
will only ever be one road in and out. So
that is a big issue for us. And I'm also
concerned about sort of a side issue that room size
(06:16):
minimums are being scrapped, and that to me is a
concern if we end up with project housing or the
like rooms, what kind of society are we creating, not
what we like to think of as the hu human
way of life.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it, Because I think
that Damien. I think you make a very good point
that we do need a range of housing that and
we absolutely need some affordable housing put in play there,
but there's an awful lot of other things to consider.
And Lorner, you touch on the infrastructure, which applies to
not just intensification, but also when we're creating new suburbs
(06:52):
and areas on the fringes of the city, taking that
one full productive land that we have as well, and
who's going to pay for that? And you know, the
last thing we want is another new suburb in a
flood risk zone. Damien.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, I mean part of the reason why my wife
and I decided to sell our home in Glen Eden.
We loved our home we loved the community that we
lived in. It was simply because the commute became too
much for us. We were sitting in traffic for probably
an hour and a half to work at home every day.
The train system was unreliable and those are fundamentally infrastructure problems.
(07:27):
And then with the new developments that they were building
in Glen Eden, I just saw that traffic as becoming worse.
So we now live in an apartment and I must
say I'm really happy because my commute's really easy. I
get home on time and I can actually hang out
with my daughter, which was a privilege I didn't have previously.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Interesting. Right, let's move on to the really important issues
of the day. The All Blacks, the collars. It's been
a bit of an issue here in the newsroom early
this morning, and actually I have not had one person
text throughout the morning to say yep, no, they were great.
Love the jerseys. Everyone's kind of had some quite interesting
comments to make about them on the All Blacks last
(08:05):
night England. Yay or nay, Lorna.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I say yay, sorry to go here. I like it
absolutely Like I loved them old school. They reminded me
of being a kid getting out them a night and
watching the All Blacks games. And don't forget the All
Blacks jerseys featured white collars when they won both the
nineteen eighty seven and twenty eleven Rugby World Cup tournaments,
so they could be lucky for us.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Who knows?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Who knows, Damien, I'm going to go with LORDA on this,
and I hate this because we tend to agree on
a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But I kind of like them. I like the nod
to heritage.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I like the leaning on on old design to create
something new.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I like the I like it it's making people feel uncomfortable.
It's kind of like when I saw.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Polo necks and baggy jeans b returned for the first time.
I was disgusted by it. But now I'm like, oh,
it's not that bad.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Not that bad.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I don't mind that. I don't mind the association with
the past. I think that is lovely and a bit
of tradition there. And thinks, oh, that was just really distracting.
And then I was watching it how dirty they were getting,
and I was going, oh, what a nightmare.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
English.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's gone from the blackest jersey and his ever made
when they went through that pans, but it had to.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Be like as black as possible to know, like playing
around at the design again. So I'd love to see
what comes next.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, no, we shall hold our breath. Lorna Riley and
Damian Bernuto, thank you so much for your time this
morning on the panel.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks it'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
And joining us on the Sunday Session Panel. Today we
have got co s day host Laurna, Riley Hi, Lorna Morning,
and we have Singer pr Consultant and one plus one
Communications Damien Venuto.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
How are you, Damien, I'm really well, Francisca.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Thanks, good to have you both with us. So did
you see the three News bulletin last night?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
Laurna?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Did you make that appointment viewing?
Speaker 4 (00:35):
I didn't because I was busy being mum uber at
the time. I'm sure you can relate, but I did
watch it later on demand. I thought it was easy
to see. It's part of the Stuff family, with the
modern graphics, less formal, maybe than we're used to with
a news bulletin, perhaps aimed at a younger audience, and
maybe because I was watching on demand, but I thought
there was a few teething issues that audio sync without
(00:57):
with a live cross in the news room. But generally
I thought it was better than I thought it was
going to be. They had an exclusive the Jujan story,
Paula Penfold bring in her journalist. It gravitas to it.
Great to make an impact. They're good to see the
face of the bulletin too. Samantha Hayes with a story
that I'm aware was also an exclusive, a heartwarming one.
Gotta make some stories. Didn't feel like a lot of filler,
(01:17):
which often weekend bulletins can do, and I love the
interactivity of it. There was a link to the stuff
Quiz topical question to hold you through the break. There
was a live poll results at the end of the
bulletin and I thought Laura are Too pos did a
great job as well.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I think she did as well. A couple of things there, Damien,
the half hour. It makes sense in a weekend I think,
I believe.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
Yeah, yeah, I mean you don't want it to be
too long and you don't want it to be too short.
That it's criticized for being light and low on detail.
The one problem is that I don't know if you
watched at Francesca. I didn't, so I can pretty much
confirm that two out of three people didn't tune in live.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
To watch that.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Fundamentally fundamentally the problem, well, no, the problem is that
I only tuned in because it was new.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I don't normally get my news from sitting down and
watching the news at six o'clock. And I don't think
I don't think any of us. I don't think you do,
probably do either, Lorna. There's other things going on in
the world, and I listen to the radio and I
read newspapers online and things. That's where I get my new.
So I watched it out of curiosity. I thought they
did really well, possibly because they had given us kind
of the heads up that it's that they're not fully
(02:25):
happy with the product yet it's not where they want
it to be. So I think they set the expectations
quite low, so I thought. But like you, Laura, I
thought it was pretty slick, pretty snappy. Technically it did
kind of go quite well, quite busy, quite bold, lot
of purple. Yeah, But I think I think if you
were if you were sitting you know, if you were
(02:45):
concerned about the media, Damien, and that there wouldn't be another,
you know, real option at six of something else to watch,
I think you can rest assured there's there's absolutely another
product there for you.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Yeah, there is another product.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
My concern is that I don't know how long it's sustainable,
because let's say said previously, media works tried for years
and years and years.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Discovery tied for years and years and years. Nobody could make.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
This concept as profitable as what it needs to be
to be sustainable. And that's really the challenge that stuff's
going to have as they move forward. It's the idea
of a sustainable news product. You can make a news
product that's good enough. Whether that's financially sustainable as a
quite a different question.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
No, I agree. I was trying not to look forward
too much, Damien. I was going, well done, you got
to air you know, Laurna. You could always you could
almost I could almost sort of feel sort of the
sigh of relief the minute they got to sex thirty
and the round of applause that they gave themselves for
getting to that point, and a small amount of time, yeah,
that they've taken to kind of that they've had to
(03:48):
get this up and running.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
For sure, And we heard lots of stories about, you know,
arguments in the news room and all that kind of thing,
and I think, yeah, they did a great job all
things considered.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
We had an expert on this morning who was concerned
housing changes by the government might mean that we end
up with cheap, slum like developments. Damien, Are you concerned
what we're seeing with the moves that the government has made,
even though they're not hugely different to what we kind
of already have in.
Speaker 5 (04:14):
Place, Franciscott, I think I come from a slightly different perspective,
and maybe it comes from the fact that I've actually
lived in a country that does have slum like developments,
actually several countries that have some like developments, And what
I found is that some like developments aren't the product
of the quality of the building. It's the product of
(04:35):
inequality across the society. If people don't have enough money
to pay for accommodation, they're going to live wherever they can,
and that's really the concern that New Zealand has. I
think that anything that will increase building, make affordable housing
a little bit more accessible to more people has to
be a good move because the status quo hasn't worked.
It's created an affordability crisis in New Zealand that that's
(04:58):
locked out a lot of people. So if there are steps,
incremental steps they can move toward improving that situation, I think.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
That that's really good.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
So I'm kind of in favor of trying a few
different things, trying to make housing a little bit more affordable,
building a few more houses. I'm definitely in favor of
that because it's what the country needs. Obviously, there are
concerns if this goes the wrong way, we might end
up with another leaky building crisis down the road. But
I really think that affordability needs to be increased across
(05:28):
the housing portfolio. There's a real need for more people
to have access to affordable homes.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Lorna, Yeah, look, I think it's understandable than an architecture
and planning professor might criticize whose quickly build, but you know,
as long as they're clean and dry, they'll probably be
a much better option for people than draft the old bungalow.
But I think there's a big worry here the mass
of info housing that we're seeing around infrastructure, essential services,
road and public transport. We have a problem in many
(05:56):
of our major cities would desperately needed upgrades on storm
water and wastewater system, and we're creating major traffic bottlenecks.
In our biggest city, you know, Auckland built on a
dismiss Many new builds are happening in suburbs where there
will only ever be one road in and out. So
that is a big issue for us. And I'm also
concerned about sort of a side issue that room size
(06:16):
minimums are being scrapped, and that to me is a
concern if we end up with project housing or the
like rooms, what kind of society are we creating, not
what we like to think of as the hu human
way of life.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah, it's an interesting one, isn't it, Because I think
that Damien. I think you make a very good point
that we do need a range of housing that and
we absolutely need some affordable housing put in play there,
but there's an awful lot of other things to consider.
And Lorner, you touch on the infrastructure, which applies to
not just intensification, but also when we're creating new suburbs
(06:52):
and areas on the fringes of the city, taking that
one full productive land that we have as well, and
who's going to pay for that? And you know, the
last thing we want is another new suburb in a
flood risk zone. Damien.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah, I mean part of the reason why my wife
and I decided to sell our home in Glen Eden.
We loved our home we loved the community that we
lived in. It was simply because the commute became too
much for us. We were sitting in traffic for probably
an hour and a half to work at home every day.
The train system was unreliable and those are fundamentally infrastructure problems.
(07:27):
And then with the new developments that they were building
in Glen Eden, I just saw that traffic as becoming worse.
So we now live in an apartment and I must
say I'm really happy because my commute's really easy. I
get home on time and I can actually hang out
with my daughter, which was a privilege I didn't have previously.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Interesting. Right, let's move on to the really important issues
of the day. The All Blacks, the collars. It's been
a bit of an issue here in the newsroom early
this morning, and actually I have not had one person
text throughout the morning to say yep, no, they were great.
Love the jerseys. Everyone's kind of had some quite interesting
comments to make about them on the All Blacks last
(08:05):
night England. Yay or nay, Lorna.
Speaker 4 (08:09):
I say yay, sorry to go here. I like it
absolutely Like I loved them old school. They reminded me
of being a kid getting out them a night and
watching the All Blacks games. And don't forget the All
Blacks jerseys featured white collars when they won both the
nineteen eighty seven and twenty eleven Rugby World Cup tournaments,
so they could be lucky for us.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Who knows?
Speaker 5 (08:29):
Who knows, Damien, I'm going to go with LORDA on this,
and I hate this because we tend to agree on
a lot of things.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
But I kind of like them. I like the nod
to heritage.
Speaker 5 (08:37):
I like the leaning on on old design to create
something new.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
I like the I like it it's making people feel uncomfortable.
It's kind of like when I saw.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Polo necks and baggy jeans b returned for the first time.
I was disgusted by it. But now I'm like, oh,
it's not that bad.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Not that bad.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I don't mind that. I don't mind the association with
the past. I think that is lovely and a bit
of tradition there. And thinks, oh, that was just really distracting.
And then I was watching it how dirty they were getting,
and I was going, oh, what a nightmare.
Speaker 4 (09:07):
English.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's gone from the blackest jersey and his ever made
when they went through that pans, but it had to.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Be like as black as possible to know, like playing
around at the design again. So I'd love to see
what comes next.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yeah, no, we shall hold our breath. Lorna Riley and
Damian Bernuto, thank you so much for your time this
morning on the panel.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks it'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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