The Prime Minister has wrapped up his week-long diplomatic tour of the US - saying he’s achieved what he set out to do.
Despite the world media being focused on President Biden's suitability for the Oval Office, Luxon managed to work his way into some important discussions at the NATO summit.
NZ Herald political reporter Adam Pearse says Luxon met with several world leaders - and opened doors to possible future trade deals and additional funding.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
To Politics Now, and I'm joined by New Zealand Herald
political reporter Adam Pearce.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Morning, Adam, good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Prime Minister has been in the US, of course, at
the NATO summit and in California. We knew that we
weren't going to get any tangible outcomes from the trip
to the NATO summit, like a trade deal in things.
But how important was that New Zealand had a seat
at the table?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh, I mean, it's always good to be there, and
like you're saying, have a seat at the table. It's
just been a little bit unfortunate that it's been a
bit distracted by the scrutiny placed on President Joe Biden
over in the US, however, but you know, there were
some important conversations obviously around the Ukrainian War. We've committed
more support there and Lucksons has certainly left the door
(00:56):
open for more financial aid with refect to humanitarian aid
and also military funding as well. So important to have
those discussions, and obviously this is kind of his first
major summers as well, so really interesting to see how
he's gone. There some pretty big meetings with the lead
US from France and Spain and Aslee and obviously having
some FaceTime with Joe Biden. However, it just didn't go
(01:19):
very well as many as many of your listeners would
have seen the photo. It didn't exactly paint a great
picture of the US president, did it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
How fascinated are you by this election, Adam? I mean,
I've always quite enjoyed American politics, but I'm just obsessed
with the selection now. It's like the longest steering competition,
this Joe Biden against the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Isn't it?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well exactly, It's fascinating to see how long he's going
to stick to it. I mean, he keeps commissing to
running in the election, and I think there are just
so many voices now who are calling for him to
stand down or stand aside, for someone else to take it.
I mean, I can see both sides, right, I mean,
if he goes for it, at least he can give
it as much as he can and then and then
(02:03):
can presumably, looking at how things are going, Trump potentially
may succeed there and then someone else gets a fresh
run afterwards, or that the other thing is maybe it's
not too late. Maybe there's room for someone like a
Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris to have a go. So yeah,
like you say, very fascinating. I think there'll be a
lot of people in New Zeond after Luxeon's interaction with him,
(02:25):
who will be taking a keen interest in what happens
with Biden's future and seeing how it impacts the global
theater as it would.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, no risks on both sides. However, it turns out
it's not a simple pros and cons list as it,
Adam tell me. Looking ahead at this week, it's the
third week of recess, so things have slowed down a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, they're getting bree slow at the moment. To be
honest with you, I don't think anyone should be expecting
much in the way of big government announcements, as I
understand that this third week of recess, which is when
all of our MP's are back in their own electorates,
has been kind of considered as the true recess week.
So we've got a lot of government in peas and
(03:09):
ministers who are on holiday. It's been pretty busy time,
you know, obviously going leading up to the budget and
then then afterwards, so a lot of them taking some
time off, including the Prime Minister, so he'll be in
Hawaii on a bit of a break. Winston Peters will
be in Japan and Korea for some bilateral meetings, which
will be interesting. They'll tell us a little bit about
how Luxon was I suppose how he came across at
(03:34):
the NATO summits, So that'll be interesting to see. However,
with both Peter's and lux in a way that I mean,
David Simol will be our acting acting PM. That's not
the first time he's done that, but I think it
might be actually the second, and it'll be interesting to
see how he acts in that role and whether he
follows the example set by Peters last week, who caused
quite a bit of strife speculating about what happened with
(03:57):
the artitty fairy grounding. It was fortunate that Peters was
largely right about what had happened there came out in
that safe bulletin that was leaked, but it did cause
cause quite a few issues, and it meant that Luxon,
while he was over in the US, was answering all
these questions about what Peters was doing back home, which
is definitely not what you want your acting PM to
(04:17):
be doing, taking the focus away from what you're doing
on the international stage. He Luxen is obviously on holiday,
so he won't be answering questions like that unless there's
something massive that happens, but yet interesting to see how
Seymour takes that role. I'd imagine he'll quite do it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think he will. Adam, thanks so much for the
catch up.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudken, listen
live to News Talks it'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
To Politics Now, and I'm joined by New Zealand Herald
political reporter Adam Pearce.
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Morning, Adam, good morning.
Speaker 2 (00:20):
Prime Minister has been in the US, of course, at
the NATO summit and in California. We knew that we
weren't going to get any tangible outcomes from the trip
to the NATO summit, like a trade deal in things.
But how important was that New Zealand had a seat
at the table?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
Oh, I mean, it's always good to be there, and
like you're saying, have a seat at the table. It's
just been a little bit unfortunate that it's been a
bit distracted by the scrutiny placed on President Joe Biden
over in the US, however, but you know, there were
some important conversations obviously around the Ukrainian War. We've committed
more support there and Lucksons has certainly left the door
(00:56):
open for more financial aid with refect to humanitarian aid
and also military funding as well. So important to have
those discussions, and obviously this is kind of his first
major summers as well, so really interesting to see how
he's gone. There some pretty big meetings with the lead
US from France and Spain and Aslee and obviously having
some FaceTime with Joe Biden. However, it just didn't go
(01:19):
very well as many as many of your listeners would
have seen the photo. It didn't exactly paint a great
picture of the US president, did it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
How fascinated are you by this election, Adam? I mean,
I've always quite enjoyed American politics, but I'm just obsessed
with the selection now. It's like the longest steering competition,
this Joe Biden against the Democratic Party.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Isn't it?
Speaker 3 (01:41):
Well exactly, It's fascinating to see how long he's going
to stick to it. I mean, he keeps commissing to
running in the election, and I think there are just
so many voices now who are calling for him to
stand down or stand aside, for someone else to take it.
I mean, I can see both sides, right, I mean,
if he goes for it, at least he can give
it as much as he can and then and then
(02:03):
can presumably, looking at how things are going, Trump potentially
may succeed there and then someone else gets a fresh
run afterwards, or that the other thing is maybe it's
not too late. Maybe there's room for someone like a
Gavin Newsom or Kamala Harris to have a go. So yeah,
like you say, very fascinating. I think there'll be a
lot of people in New Zeond after Luxeon's interaction with him,
(02:25):
who will be taking a keen interest in what happens
with Biden's future and seeing how it impacts the global
theater as it would.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, no risks on both sides. However, it turns out
it's not a simple pros and cons list as it,
Adam tell me. Looking ahead at this week, it's the
third week of recess, so things have slowed down a
little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, they're getting bree slow at the moment. To be
honest with you, I don't think anyone should be expecting
much in the way of big government announcements, as I
understand that this third week of recess, which is when
all of our MP's are back in their own electorates,
has been kind of considered as the true recess week.
So we've got a lot of government in peas and
(03:09):
ministers who are on holiday. It's been pretty busy time,
you know, obviously going leading up to the budget and
then then afterwards, so a lot of them taking some
time off, including the Prime Minister, so he'll be in
Hawaii on a bit of a break. Winston Peters will
be in Japan and Korea for some bilateral meetings, which
will be interesting. They'll tell us a little bit about
how Luxon was I suppose how he came across at
(03:34):
the NATO summits, So that'll be interesting to see. However,
with both Peter's and lux in a way that I mean,
David Simol will be our acting acting PM. That's not
the first time he's done that, but I think it
might be actually the second, and it'll be interesting to
see how he acts in that role and whether he
follows the example set by Peters last week, who caused
quite a bit of strife speculating about what happened with
(03:57):
the artitty fairy grounding. It was fortunate that Peters was
largely right about what had happened there came out in
that safe bulletin that was leaked, but it did cause
cause quite a few issues, and it meant that Luxon,
while he was over in the US, was answering all
these questions about what Peters was doing back home, which
is definitely not what you want your acting PM to
(04:17):
be doing, taking the focus away from what you're doing
on the international stage. He Luxen is obviously on holiday,
so he won't be answering questions like that unless there's
something massive that happens, but yet interesting to see how
Seymour takes that role. I'd imagine he'll quite do it.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I think he will. Adam, thanks so much for the
catch up.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudken, listen
live to News Talks it'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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