Everyone loves a good explainer - and one author has taken it upon herself to investigate some of life's greatest mysteries in a new book.
In Why Do People Queue for Brunch?, National Explainer editor Felicity Lewis explores some of life's curliest questions - including undiscovered ocean treasures and who can claim the moon.
She says she hoped to take readers on a literary journey - and the books is packed with stories as well as explanations.
"We thought it would be a really good service to readers to provide some context and some background."
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talks AB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I love a good explainer, especially when it might be
something about the world or life that you hadn't really
given much thought to. Felicity Lewis is the Explainer's editor
for The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald. Her entire
job is to research and demystify some of life's curliest
subjects for her readers. Felicity has compiled the explainers to
some of our modern mysteries in a new box. It's
(00:34):
called why do People Queue for Brunch? She joins me
now from Melbourne. Good morning, Felicity, Morning, Francesca, good to
have you with us. Now before you before we get
you to explain some of these modern mysteries to us,
how did you get into explainers or how did you
become the Explainer's editor.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Well, I've been a journalist for many years and I've
done all sorts of different roles.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Some of them have involved really unpacking some.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Mystifying events in the news and kind of buzzwords that
we hear about. And so about eight years ago now,
the Age and the Sydney Morning Herald decided that they
wanted to have someone who was dedicated to explaining, and
that was a function of the news becoming more and
(01:26):
more fast paced, you know, on people getting their information
in bits and pieces, and we thought it would be
really good service to readers to provide some context and
some background. And then I suppose, you know, as well
as the news, I've interpreted my brief rather broadly, so
we also talk about all the things that puzzle people
in life.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
What topics work well, what do the readers love.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It needs to be.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
A question where there is an answer that has some
complexity to it, I guess, but it also needs so
you know, not something you can answer in one sentence,
but it also needs to be something that takes people
on a fun journey alone on the way. So lots
of lots of colorful stories and interesting people and experts who.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We interview along the way.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So that really it's about what do I think I'd
like to read about at the end of the day.
And of course I work with my colleagues and I
do straw poles among them as well, so things like
what's a rogue wave or words that we hear talked
about like narcissists. Just in general conversation, you probably notice
(02:36):
some words tend to trend, so you know, people are
all talking about what's you know, narcissism, so we unpack
what does that technically mean? And then there are the
kinds of questions that are what we'd call evergreen, which
are like can you journey to the center of the earth?
And so it's just the kind of thing that will
(02:58):
give us enough space to provide our readers with some
interesting talking points for barbecues or dinner parties and make
you feel like you've read something that's a bit enriching,
even makes you feel a bit smarter.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's much more interesting small talk than talking about the weather. Felicity.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Well, that's right. We like to give people repertoire. There's
actually there's actually an.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Explainer in the book about how can you learn the
art of conversation? But that did come from one of
our reporters on the explainer desk. Christmas was coming up,
and all those kind of cocktail parties or Christmas parties
were and family dinners were looming, and he thought, well,
how can you approach these kind of events with a
few trips up your sleeve and maybe even make real
(03:41):
friends and have real conversations along the way. So there's
an explainer in the book all about that too, So
it is information you can use.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Let's chat about some of these great explainers, and let's
start with the title why do people queue for? Brunt?
What I really loved about this book is that you
ask a question like that, you know why you're queuing up,
spend fifty bucks on some eggs and a flat weight,
But then immediately you find yourself an ancient egypt You
never quite know where these stories are going to go,
where they're going to start and stop.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, that's right, because things don't just come from nowhere,
do they. So yeah, on the face of it, you
are just queuing for a cronaut or something like that.
But there is a long history of humans queuing up,
which we do talk about. And with the ancient Egyptians,
they were queuing up, according to mythology, to get into
the afterlife, and the question was which we're going to
go up or down? You know, And there was this
(04:32):
nervous queue while you were waiting for judgment. That we
also look at the history of cues themselves in more
in the modern world and in the way that THATQ
behavior has been studied, the way that people behave and
the rules that they apply in cues, and we look
at the way businesses have kind of made an art
(04:53):
of making cues an okay place to be. No, so
places like Disneyland really pioneered the idea of these cues
where the queue almost became part of the ride, so
that you were waiting to get on part of the end.
So there's something of that in the queues that people
are in when they're when they're waiting for brunch. And
(05:13):
this one came about because I do live in a
in a kind of trendy inner city area with cafes,
and I do see people standing on the street and
they're queueing, and the qu they're not just cues of
you know, half a dozen people cues that are going
around the corner. And I'm actually not a very patient
person myself, and so I was really curious, like what why.
So I did a bit of reporting on the ground
(05:36):
and went and asked them, and it was very funny
some people. Some people say, oh, well, actually I'm not
a cure either, but you know, they point to their
family member or their partner and say they made me
do it, but other people were in groups and they
they didn't regard it as a bit of a social
event in itself.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
But we look into the psychology of it a bit,
a bit more deeply than that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And you know, a queue is on one level, it's
a visual shortcut. So it always has been. Where the
talking about wartime rations or you know, the latest trendy
food item, they are a visual shortcut to help you choose.
And people see a queue there are five shots all
selling the same thing, they'll go to the one with
a queue generally because it signifies that there's something really
(06:22):
good here. And there's a bit of you know, social currency,
being in the know posting that you're in that queue
on Instagram, and even a bit of a touch of
fomo can come up in the mix there.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I think I'm a bit like you, Flessie. I
don't have enough fomo to really to enjoy the queue. Hey,
there was another chapter that I was really fascinated and
it's called is the Moon for Sale? Can someone claim
the Moon? And of course this is really topical now
because there is all this interest and the resources that
we've discovered on the Moon and mining that could do
(06:55):
to day place.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, there's a few things on the Moon.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
There's this this energy source called helium three that they've found,
and they've found ice, which which was really important because
means that he can, apparently I haven't done chemistry, we
can split ice into oxygen, which is handy for humans
on the moon, and into hydrogen for power. So look,
the short short answer is yes and no. So the Moon,
(07:21):
under international law and all about a space is the
province of all mankind. But there is a guy in
America who did start selling plots of land on the
Moon about forty years ago, and you can still get
they're about forty dollars a pop. I think, And apparently,
as the story goes, he was dreaming of getting on
the property ladder and he looked up at the Moon
(07:43):
one night and he thought.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Now there's a lot of real estate.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So we spoke to an expert who works at a
very senior level with United Nations and so on, an
Australian space lawyer, and he actually has one of these
plots on the.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Moon, which is students bought for him. But he told
us he didn't think that would hold up in an
international court of law.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Necessarily but there is a huge amount of activity, so
it's there hasn't there haven't been humans up there since
the seventies. I mean after that nineteen sixty nine moonwalk,
there were a handful of others. There were even astronauts
who played a couple of shots of golf up there.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
So there's still golf balls up there on the Moon.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
But there's a much more, much more serious focus now
on getting back up there for all sorts of reasons,
from scientific to it being a stopping off round to Mars.
And there are also private operators in the mix too,
which we know from.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Ilon Musk's Space X.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
So international lawyers really are looking quite closely at what
the rules of conduct are going to be when you've
got people who are but not just visiting, but who
are based on the Moon for whatever period of time,
and they're all from different countries and they all have
to get along.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
So what are the guidelines for best behavior. It's fascinating,
it certainly is.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And look from space back down to Earth. I had
no idea that we had a hole in the Earth
that's twelve kilometers deep.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I know that's.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That's one that was dug by the Soviets from the
seventies and they kept going on and off, I think
for the next twenty years, but they eventually had to
give up. It gets pretty hot the further you go,
but it's twelve kilometers it's over twelve kilometers deep. But
(09:43):
there is once again, this is the thing about technology.
When it you know, it hits a kind of trigger point,
it means that all sorts of in this case digging
work can be done again so that people are looking
again at you know, digging under the Earth's crust. We
explained in the book that the earth'site, it's got several layers,
(10:05):
and it's a crust, and then it's got this thing
called called the moho, which is like which is a
layer before you get to that mantle, which we kind
of know is that churning hot molten liquid that pops
up sometimes from volcanoes.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And there are serious moves to get down to that,
to that layer and see what's in it.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
And it all goes.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Towards explaining, you know, how the Earth was formed and
how it's evolved, and it gives you know, priceless information
about what we're doing here, you know, in the universe.
And you would think that all this kind of thing
was known. But it's not an easy it's not it
despite the Jules vern you know stories, it's not.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's not an easy place to get to.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So another thing that we have to explain is not
just what we already know, but how we know that about,
you know, through through different waves that scientists have sent
down to work out what's what's in the.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Center of the earth.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
But it's a great it's a read, and it's got
all sorts of exciting things like crystals and you know
how we're magnetized, how you got magnetized. So yeah, it's
a really fun read. And we do talk about Jules
Vernon there too.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That chapter is called could We ever Journey to the
Center of the Earth? And I'll tell you what I
learned A lot. I did realize though for listening that
probably my knowledge of the earth and its cause and
things like that comes from school and things have moved
on a little person.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, Hey, look something else I just want to quickly
touch on as well. As we live in a hugely
digital age now, writing can almost seem quite foreign when
we have to do it because we spend all day
on our phones and computers and devices, so its handwriting
still important in the digital age.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Well, I was curious about this because I like writing myself.
I've got a borrow on my desk as we speak,
but I've also got a mix of notes that are handwritten,
and you know, my working notes are handwritten and sometimes
you know, of course, mostly their type. So we did
investigate this, and I mean, on a very basic functional level,
(12:16):
students need to know how to write neatly.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It's very important for them because they've got to do exams.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And we spoke with people who actually coach students who
are having a challenge with writing neatly enough that their
ideas are legible, so that it's a really important thing
in life. You might have the best ideas, but if
you can't get them down, you know, neatly on paper,
then it's a problem. But we'll We also spoke with
(12:45):
some experts about the value of handwriting to your brain.
So because you're doing it, you're doing handwriting with your
body of course, and it literally helps you kind of
collect your thoughts as you're going. So the parts of
your brain that control memory and comprehension, even spelling all
come together as you do doing the handwriting. So in
(13:08):
some ways, say you were taking notes and you're wanting
to remember in a university lecture or whatever the situation
might be, it's really helpful to do it with handwriting.
And it's also pretty good creatively as well. I mean,
writers like Stephen King who writes the Horror the Horror books,
and other poets and writers who we spoke to do
(13:33):
some of their drafts with a biro or a pencil,
whatever it might be, and some of them color code,
you know, but it's kind of a kind of more.
It's an extension of what's going on in your head.
You know, you're not stuck with the fonts and the
formats that are given to you with a computer.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
So that one was interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I mean, we spoke with forensic experts as well about
how even though it might not be a window to
your soul, handwriting is very individual and distinctive. Hi.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Hi, Yeah, I did laugh about that whole idea felicity
of handwriting being a window to your soul. That would
make my soul look very messy about now. Thank you
so much for your time. That was Felicity Lewis with
us the book. It's just great for curious readers. It
covers so much general knowledge. It really is fabulous, and
you can find more detail on all the topics that
(14:29):
we've just been talking about, plus many more explainers of
modern mysteries in Felicity's book. Its called Why Do People
Queue for Brunch? It's in bookstores now.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
For more from the Sunday Session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to news Talks it'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talks AB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
I love a good explainer, especially when it might be
something about the world or life that you hadn't really
given much thought to. Felicity Lewis is the Explainer's editor
for The Age and The Sydney Morning Herald. Her entire
job is to research and demystify some of life's curliest
subjects for her readers. Felicity has compiled the explainers to
some of our modern mysteries in a new box. It's
(00:34):
called why do People Queue for Brunch? She joins me
now from Melbourne. Good morning, Felicity, Morning, Francesca, good to
have you with us. Now before you before we get
you to explain some of these modern mysteries to us,
how did you get into explainers or how did you
become the Explainer's editor.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Well, I've been a journalist for many years and I've
done all sorts of different roles.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Some of them have involved really unpacking some.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
Mystifying events in the news and kind of buzzwords that
we hear about. And so about eight years ago now,
the Age and the Sydney Morning Herald decided that they
wanted to have someone who was dedicated to explaining, and
that was a function of the news becoming more and
(01:26):
more fast paced, you know, on people getting their information
in bits and pieces, and we thought it would be
really good service to readers to provide some context and
some background. And then I suppose, you know, as well
as the news, I've interpreted my brief rather broadly, so
we also talk about all the things that puzzle people
in life.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
What topics work well, what do the readers love.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
It needs to be.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
A question where there is an answer that has some
complexity to it, I guess, but it also needs so
you know, not something you can answer in one sentence,
but it also needs to be something that takes people
on a fun journey alone on the way. So lots
of lots of colorful stories and interesting people and experts who.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
We interview along the way.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So that really it's about what do I think I'd
like to read about at the end of the day.
And of course I work with my colleagues and I
do straw poles among them as well, so things like
what's a rogue wave or words that we hear talked
about like narcissists. Just in general conversation, you probably notice
(02:36):
some words tend to trend, so you know, people are
all talking about what's you know, narcissism, so we unpack
what does that technically mean? And then there are the
kinds of questions that are what we'd call evergreen, which
are like can you journey to the center of the earth?
And so it's just the kind of thing that will
(02:58):
give us enough space to provide our readers with some
interesting talking points for barbecues or dinner parties and make
you feel like you've read something that's a bit enriching,
even makes you feel a bit smarter.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
It's much more interesting small talk than talking about the weather. Felicity.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Well, that's right. We like to give people repertoire. There's
actually there's actually an.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
Explainer in the book about how can you learn the
art of conversation? But that did come from one of
our reporters on the explainer desk. Christmas was coming up,
and all those kind of cocktail parties or Christmas parties
were and family dinners were looming, and he thought, well,
how can you approach these kind of events with a
few trips up your sleeve and maybe even make real
(03:41):
friends and have real conversations along the way. So there's
an explainer in the book all about that too, So
it is information you can use.
Speaker 2 (03:49):
Let's chat about some of these great explainers, and let's
start with the title why do people queue for? Brunt?
What I really loved about this book is that you
ask a question like that, you know why you're queuing up,
spend fifty bucks on some eggs and a flat weight,
But then immediately you find yourself an ancient egypt You
never quite know where these stories are going to go,
where they're going to start and stop.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Well, that's right, because things don't just come from nowhere,
do they. So yeah, on the face of it, you
are just queuing for a cronaut or something like that.
But there is a long history of humans queuing up,
which we do talk about. And with the ancient Egyptians,
they were queuing up, according to mythology, to get into
the afterlife, and the question was which we're going to
go up or down? You know, And there was this
(04:32):
nervous queue while you were waiting for judgment. That we
also look at the history of cues themselves in more
in the modern world and in the way that THATQ
behavior has been studied, the way that people behave and
the rules that they apply in cues, and we look
at the way businesses have kind of made an art
(04:53):
of making cues an okay place to be. No, so
places like Disneyland really pioneered the idea of these cues
where the queue almost became part of the ride, so
that you were waiting to get on part of the end.
So there's something of that in the queues that people
are in when they're when they're waiting for brunch. And
(05:13):
this one came about because I do live in a
in a kind of trendy inner city area with cafes,
and I do see people standing on the street and
they're queueing, and the qu they're not just cues of
you know, half a dozen people cues that are going
around the corner. And I'm actually not a very patient
person myself, and so I was really curious, like what why.
So I did a bit of reporting on the ground
(05:36):
and went and asked them, and it was very funny
some people. Some people say, oh, well, actually I'm not
a cure either, but you know, they point to their
family member or their partner and say they made me
do it, but other people were in groups and they
they didn't regard it as a bit of a social
event in itself.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
But we look into the psychology of it a bit,
a bit more deeply than that.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
And you know, a queue is on one level, it's
a visual shortcut. So it always has been. Where the
talking about wartime rations or you know, the latest trendy
food item, they are a visual shortcut to help you choose.
And people see a queue there are five shots all
selling the same thing, they'll go to the one with
a queue generally because it signifies that there's something really
(06:22):
good here. And there's a bit of you know, social currency,
being in the know posting that you're in that queue
on Instagram, and even a bit of a touch of
fomo can come up in the mix there.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yeah, I think I'm a bit like you, Flessie. I
don't have enough fomo to really to enjoy the queue. Hey,
there was another chapter that I was really fascinated and
it's called is the Moon for Sale? Can someone claim
the Moon? And of course this is really topical now
because there is all this interest and the resources that
we've discovered on the Moon and mining that could do
(06:55):
to day place.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, there's a few things on the Moon.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
There's this this energy source called helium three that they've found,
and they've found ice, which which was really important because
means that he can, apparently I haven't done chemistry, we
can split ice into oxygen, which is handy for humans
on the moon, and into hydrogen for power. So look,
the short short answer is yes and no. So the Moon,
(07:21):
under international law and all about a space is the
province of all mankind. But there is a guy in
America who did start selling plots of land on the
Moon about forty years ago, and you can still get
they're about forty dollars a pop. I think, And apparently,
as the story goes, he was dreaming of getting on
the property ladder and he looked up at the Moon
(07:43):
one night and he thought.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Now there's a lot of real estate.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
So we spoke to an expert who works at a
very senior level with United Nations and so on, an
Australian space lawyer, and he actually has one of these
plots on the.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Moon, which is students bought for him. But he told
us he didn't think that would hold up in an
international court of law.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Necessarily but there is a huge amount of activity, so
it's there hasn't there haven't been humans up there since
the seventies. I mean after that nineteen sixty nine moonwalk,
there were a handful of others. There were even astronauts
who played a couple of shots of golf up there.
Speaker 4 (08:26):
So there's still golf balls up there on the Moon.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
But there's a much more, much more serious focus now
on getting back up there for all sorts of reasons,
from scientific to it being a stopping off round to Mars.
And there are also private operators in the mix too,
which we know from.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Ilon Musk's Space X.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
So international lawyers really are looking quite closely at what
the rules of conduct are going to be when you've
got people who are but not just visiting, but who
are based on the Moon for whatever period of time,
and they're all from different countries and they all have
to get along.
Speaker 4 (09:04):
So what are the guidelines for best behavior. It's fascinating,
it certainly is.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
And look from space back down to Earth. I had
no idea that we had a hole in the Earth
that's twelve kilometers deep.
Speaker 4 (09:19):
I know that's.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
That's one that was dug by the Soviets from the
seventies and they kept going on and off, I think
for the next twenty years, but they eventually had to
give up. It gets pretty hot the further you go,
but it's twelve kilometers it's over twelve kilometers deep. But
(09:43):
there is once again, this is the thing about technology.
When it you know, it hits a kind of trigger point,
it means that all sorts of in this case digging
work can be done again so that people are looking
again at you know, digging under the Earth's crust. We
explained in the book that the earth'site, it's got several layers,
(10:05):
and it's a crust, and then it's got this thing
called called the moho, which is like which is a
layer before you get to that mantle, which we kind
of know is that churning hot molten liquid that pops
up sometimes from volcanoes.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
And there are serious moves to get down to that,
to that layer and see what's in it.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
And it all goes.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Towards explaining, you know, how the Earth was formed and
how it's evolved, and it gives you know, priceless information
about what we're doing here, you know, in the universe.
And you would think that all this kind of thing
was known. But it's not an easy it's not it
despite the Jules vern you know stories, it's not.
Speaker 4 (10:50):
It's not an easy place to get to.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
So another thing that we have to explain is not
just what we already know, but how we know that about,
you know, through through different waves that scientists have sent
down to work out what's what's in the.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Center of the earth.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
But it's a great it's a read, and it's got
all sorts of exciting things like crystals and you know
how we're magnetized, how you got magnetized. So yeah, it's
a really fun read. And we do talk about Jules
Vernon there too.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
That chapter is called could We ever Journey to the
Center of the Earth? And I'll tell you what I
learned A lot. I did realize though for listening that
probably my knowledge of the earth and its cause and
things like that comes from school and things have moved
on a little person.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, Hey, look something else I just want to quickly
touch on as well. As we live in a hugely
digital age now, writing can almost seem quite foreign when
we have to do it because we spend all day
on our phones and computers and devices, so its handwriting
still important in the digital age.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Well, I was curious about this because I like writing myself.
I've got a borrow on my desk as we speak,
but I've also got a mix of notes that are handwritten,
and you know, my working notes are handwritten and sometimes
you know, of course, mostly their type. So we did
investigate this, and I mean, on a very basic functional level,
(12:16):
students need to know how to write neatly.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
It's very important for them because they've got to do exams.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
And we spoke with people who actually coach students who
are having a challenge with writing neatly enough that their
ideas are legible, so that it's a really important thing
in life. You might have the best ideas, but if
you can't get them down, you know, neatly on paper,
then it's a problem. But we'll We also spoke with
(12:45):
some experts about the value of handwriting to your brain.
So because you're doing it, you're doing handwriting with your
body of course, and it literally helps you kind of
collect your thoughts as you're going. So the parts of
your brain that control memory and comprehension, even spelling all
come together as you do doing the handwriting. So in
(13:08):
some ways, say you were taking notes and you're wanting
to remember in a university lecture or whatever the situation
might be, it's really helpful to do it with handwriting.
And it's also pretty good creatively as well. I mean,
writers like Stephen King who writes the Horror the Horror books,
and other poets and writers who we spoke to do
(13:33):
some of their drafts with a biro or a pencil,
whatever it might be, and some of them color code,
you know, but it's kind of a kind of more.
It's an extension of what's going on in your head.
You know, you're not stuck with the fonts and the
formats that are given to you with a computer.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
So that one was interesting.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
I mean, we spoke with forensic experts as well about
how even though it might not be a window to
your soul, handwriting is very individual and distinctive. Hi.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Hi, Yeah, I did laugh about that whole idea felicity
of handwriting being a window to your soul. That would
make my soul look very messy about now. Thank you
so much for your time. That was Felicity Lewis with
us the book. It's just great for curious readers. It
covers so much general knowledge. It really is fabulous, and
you can find more detail on all the topics that
(14:29):
we've just been talking about, plus many more explainers of
modern mysteries in Felicity's book. Its called Why Do People
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Speaker 1 (14:39):
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