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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News Talks edb Time of My Life.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
They're from Kiwi pop duo Foley. This is one of
the single from the band's second album, That's Life Baby,
coming out this week. The band is made up of
Ash Wallace and Gabe Everett and they are back home
in New Zealand ahead of the album release this Friday.
Gabe and Ash welcome in. Thank you so much for
being with us, Thanks for having us. We're a little
under a week away from this new album release. How
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are you feeling as it's getting closer?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Is it nerves?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Is it excitement?
Speaker 4 (00:41):
It's all of the above. Is it relief? I think
to go when it comes out, there's definitely relief. It's
crazy because you sit on this music for ages and
you're the only ones that have heard it, and I mean,
we're so excited, we can't wait to share it. But
the minute that it comes out, it stops being yours
and it's everybody else's, you know, and you kind.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Of it's like giving birth, you know.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Yeah, we're so excited, we're nervous where Yeah, just all
of the above.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Can't wait, okay, this is your second album. Do you
learn a lot from making and releasing your first album?
Speaker 5 (01:13):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (01:13):
Yeah, you know it.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Does that experience make it easier or haarder? Actually with
the second.
Speaker 6 (01:18):
Halt, I think it made it easier this time because
we knew what we kind of had to do. I
mean that the ADDA is like, you've got unlimited time
to write your first album, and then you've got six
months to write your second. So we kind of took
that to heart and we had like a writing deadline.
We were like, Okay, by the state, we'll have written
everything we need for the album, and then we're just
going to see what tracks we've got, put it all together,
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and make it happen. And so I think the speed
at which we did at this time really lent itself
to like it being a snapshot of our lives, whereas
like the first album was more like everything super particular,
We've got to get everything right, and this one is
kind of nah, we don't have to solve every problem.
It's just it's quite free.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
Isn't that very free?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:02):
It was?
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Who puts that deadline on you? Did you guys go
we want another album? O? Did somebody else say we
want another album out very quickly, does us?
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, yeah, I think we felt. Yeah, we'd learned from
the first one that if we give ourselves infinite time,
we will just keep writing, Like Gabe and I will
just keep writing songs. You know, so we did have
to kind of put that line in the sand and go.
We really intentionally wanted it to feel more cohesive in
terms of the time that we wrote it. You know,
we wanted it to feel like this is six months
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to a year of our lives that we're capturing, and
here's everything that happened and how we dealt with it,
and you know, so we had that intention at the start.
For sure.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
You said that the album is it wasn't just about
telling news stories, but about finding different ways to tell them.
What do you mean by that.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
I think this album, in particular, compared to our other work,
is less about the kind of solutions to like life's
issues and emotions and more just about portraying them in
a weird way. It's like we're kind of we're a
little bit wiser. We've gone through, you know, and downs
in our lives and together as friends and just everything
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in life that you kind of go oh no, like
I really need to like sort this out, or only
to be here to get that career opportunity, or like
whatever it is. We felt in our earlier stuff we
were trying to like problem solve and really yeah, trying
to make our lives better. But I think in this one, it's, well,
stuff's just going to come at you. You kind of
have to breeze past it. You kind of have to
have this sort of I don't know, it feels like
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are we enlightened?
Speaker 7 (03:36):
I think so.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Maybe you're saying, is like that that sort of the
previous songs, Maybe you've been a little bit more cathartic
for you as you work through something, and now you're
kind of going it felt it feels very in the moment,
like what you're describing there about it was a short
space of time you get that feeling. It's like this
is the way it is, You're very in the moment. Look,
I've got to say, such great energy I put this on.
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I I've been very lucky to have a little sneak
listen and I love to listen to music when I
walk run and I do a lovely morning jawn to
around Cornwall Park, and I was up One Tree Hill
faster than I have been in a long time. This album,
it's perfect the summer. It's just got this gorgeous, upbeat
summer vibes.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Thank you, that's so lovely.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah, no, it's I highly recommend it. I was straight
up singing away and I think it's as we're just
talking about. With the songs and things, I think you've
captured that feeling of being in the moment with the title.
I just love the title.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Yeah, that's yeah, I mean, that is life. You know.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
We really a lot of the songs were written on
a song camp that we did with ourselves and our
two producers, Harry and Josh. We went to Wahiki and wrote.
In the end, it was six of the ten songs
were written in about three days, and I think that
that being part of the process meant that everything that
was happening in our lives, even just in the last
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week or two before that time, was sort of on
the table to chat about and write about. So That's
Life was written on that in those few days, and
I think it really became the cornerstone that we that
the rest of the album kind of went around and
that energy of just like that's life baby. Like, as
Gabe said, we're not solving it. We don't have the answers.
But here it is like, here's what's happening.
Speaker 7 (05:21):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Did you just call it songwriting camp?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (05:24):
It is so adorab much.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Yeah, it really had that energy just.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
Oh really yeah yeah.
Speaker 8 (05:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Like we took a bunch of instruments and there's this
photo of all the guitars lying on the floor and
we had the dining table pulled into the lounge and
the you know, French doors of this play place opened
and the sunlight coming in. It was very like, I
don't know, it was like we had what we had
and we just made what we could make with the
tools that we had available. But also like kind of
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dictated by the weather a bit. It was actually so perfect.
We had the sun for the first day and half
we wrote all the happy songs, and then there's then
the rain came and we were like, okay, it's sad,
you know.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (06:07):
It was really like another member of the band dictating her.
It was kind of lovely.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
So Wahiki Islands kind of embedded in this album. Writing
that many songs in a short space of time, that
must say something about how well you two collaborate.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Yeah, differently and with Harry and Josh, who were the
other ones too.
Speaker 7 (06:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
I think on our first album we wrote with a
lot of different collaborators and all incredible writers and producers
that we're really lucky to work with who we did,
but definitely coming into this one, Josh and Harry are
such incredible songwriters and producers. Deare deare dear friends of ours,
and we went into it just wanting to work with
them this time, like we just wanted to lock in,
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talk about everything, not feel any sort of you know,
you've just met a person and you're trying to write
a song. It's like we had such a comfort with
them that we really wanted to lean into. So yeah,
I think in terms of collaboration, this this project is
even more collaborative than the last because we went so
much deeper with Harry and Josh than we could with
you know, ten different producers and writers.
Speaker 6 (07:08):
And that's our ability as songwriters, like kind of getting
better and we're getting more refined in what we do
over the years. You know, not trying to say that
we're incredible by any means, but like, I think we
just have a bit more confidence now and a bit
more like self assurance, and so that comes easier.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
You guys are going to perform for us in just
a moment. Before you do, I want to mention that
I believe you guys met at the Smoke Free rock
Quest is a competition. I always like to mention it
whenever I can, because, my goodness, it has done wonders
for young people and music and the number of names
and bands and artists who have come out of it
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or have met other people you two met.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
There is that, right, Yeah, it's so special. It's such
an incredible thing to do. And I genuinely, and I've
said this to the rock Quest team many times, like
I would not be an artist if it had not
been for rock Quest, because it's just that you have
that chance to First of all, you have a reason
to write a song. You know, you're not just playing
covers with your band. It's like you need to write
something original. And that was the only reason I first
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started writing songs was because we had to have one
for rock Quest. And then beyond that, you know, you
go and you meet all these other incredible young people
that love music, and you feel like for me, it
was that first time of feeling like I'd found my
peers you know that had.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
The same passion.
Speaker 7 (08:21):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
And that's so important and gives you permission to be
more creative and get ideas from other bands, and you know,
like we had a bit of a competition going like
Gabes Grand and my band, you know, and we all
met and got on really well, but it was like, oh,
we really want to beat them this year, and that
whole process and concept it just yeah, it's such an
important start, and you're playing to fairly big crowds because
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you know, maybe you bought your five or ten people,
but everybody else's people are all there, and you can
play to a couple of hundred people at a really
young age. It's just it's really special.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Another special thing that happened to you guys was I
think it was last year at which Kardashians episode. It
was the opening scene of the season finale. Yeah, there's
your song?
Speaker 6 (09:11):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:11):
How cool is that?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
That was?
Speaker 6 (09:13):
That was incredible?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Did you know it was going to happen?
Speaker 6 (09:16):
We Yeah, we knew it was going to happen, but
we didn't know in what capacity, Like, we didn't know
how much of the song they'd use. We didn't know
if it would just be the instrumental or anything, but
they ended up using pretty much most of it. There
was my guitar solos in there, your vocals, and they
kind of edited the whole scene around it. It was really something,
and yeah, it was. It was quite funny because we
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found out a lot of people, a lot of friends
of ours that were clandestine Kardashians watchers. Yeah, so they
were like, oh, I saw you on the Kardashians.
Speaker 3 (09:47):
You watched the guttash It's very cool.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
One of those unexpected things like not on the Bingo card,
not not like a goal of ours would have been
working towards. But when something like that happens, it's like, man,
that's cool. You know, it's cool for more people to
hear it. And yeah, it was awesome.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
No, it's great coverage. So we are so delighted to
heavy back in the country and heavy with us. So
while you're here, we are going to make you perform
for You're going to perform low and high.
Speaker 3 (10:14):
We are to share with you, turn off your.
Speaker 7 (10:23):
Soup, put the barn, play with you, and like we fools.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
You push my burn into hard along.
Speaker 7 (10:38):
You gotta you gotta, you.
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Gotta be some anover anover wallet, sleep on the coach,
refuse to any you take me low and left and
a refuge to want any you take me and.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You may give me blush and you will wait too
much chan and tell it something.
Speaker 7 (11:21):
Off, burning me up. PAYU with the enough.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Baby, It's all.
Speaker 7 (11:28):
Right now I'm over it. You gotta you gotta, you gotta.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Piercing nor ho never never go let your sleep on
the couch.
Speaker 9 (11:41):
Refuse to any MP you you take me law and
have left and right, refuse too MP you will.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You take me law and had.
Speaker 8 (11:59):
Got me licking about it, got me look at about it,
got me looking about it clever time, got to thinking
about it, got to think about it, got to.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Think about it. I've refuge to any up two you
take me and high left to me. I refuged to
any two you take and high.
Speaker 8 (12:34):
Time got to thinking about it, got to thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Got me think about it every time, got to think.
Speaker 8 (12:45):
About it, got to think about it, got.
Speaker 7 (12:49):
To think about it every time.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Thank you so much. That was folly was low and
high and look, congratulations on the album.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
It is fantastic.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
And you know we've we've just been talking about the
album and we've been saying how quickly it was made. Yeah,
But I also just want to say I know that
it has been eight years. You have been together for
eight years, You've been slogging it out to get to
where you are today. So good on you for sticking
at it. Thank you, best of luck with the album.
Speaker 4 (13:18):
Thank you so much, really appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
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