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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks edb Stop being so dramatic.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's a phrase comedian Chris Parker claims he's been told
every second of his life to believe really, isn't it.
Chris has created a comedy show to celebrate these drama
queen tendencies. The Stop Being So Dramatic New Zealand Tour
is underway. His two dates since the tour, and Chris
has popped in for a check.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
Chris Parker, good morning, Thank you so much for having me.
Happy Sunday everyone. I love this mustardicky weekend. It's just
like it's so good. It's like it's a good time
for public holiday too.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well well we've just had one. Yeah, but I do
feel near the middle of the year we do just
need some breathers, don't we. I think so too, the
moment to refresh.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I just think Fridays across the board should never be worked.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
I tend to agree with you.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Is what they do in like Scandinavia or something, isn't
it like you? Someone say, Oh, we lived in Denmark
for a while. It was ten to four every day.
We never work Fridays, and I'm just like, why aren't
we all doing that? Why are we working so hard?
Speaker 2 (01:09):
First, I want to congratulate you, Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
I'll take that for just you.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Don't know what it's about. You and your husband Michael
have welcomed a new addition to the family, Margo Darling
Park and Macape. Have I got that right? The rescue pap.
How are you or adjusting to this new family dynamic.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
She's adjusting well. I on the other hand, you know,
it's a big shift. I mean, we just lived. I
think you know, if you look at sort of a
same sex relationship marriage on paper, it's a pretty easy
go in life, you know, despite some maybe like global
pushback in terms of our own lifestyle, it's just so nice,
you know, we had there's sort of no obstacle. There
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was just like you'd wake up and whatever time you wanted,
and like we had no obligations. It was just like
one house plant that we sort of tried to keep
alive and then we just thought, well, let's go and
ruin this all highly like high needs dog that you know,
she's so precious, but it just it's a lot, I
mean and Everyone tells you it's a lot of work,
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and you're like, I know, And then you see everyone
at these cafes and out on walks and you're like, so,
it's a lot of work, but there's a lot of
this too. And then every dog just has their own
specific personality traits and Margo has hers. But we're getting there.
We've got a trainer. He's training us. He told me
I was a good boy the other day. He gave
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me a pat. I almost said it at his feet,
so did my belly ask for a rub.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Everyone told you it was going to be hard work,
but you're still surprised it's as much hard work as
it is.
Speaker 3 (02:43):
Isn't that like true of life, isn't it?
Speaker 1 (02:46):
Really?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I think that's what I'm beginning to understand. It's like,
you know, there's all these choices you can make, be
it have children or have a dog, or buy a house,
or move away from your family and friends and try
it in a new city or something, and everyone goes, oh,
it's really hard, and you think, yeah, yeah, yeah, totally,
but you don't actually hear that, and you're, yeah, I
understand that's hard, actually, And then you make the choice
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to do it yourself, and you think, oh my gosh,
stay well right, this is so hard. Why did no
one tell me? Like everyone was telling you, you just
weren't listening or you thought you would be an exception.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
I think it's the way it can get pitched to
you at times. So I had two kids and then
we thought I really wanted to get a puppy, and
everybody who has kids and a dog said it is
your third child. It is a third child, And that
just resonated since we never got the puppy.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
I mean, so you listened.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
It was just a way that I was like, well,
I'm not even a third child, so why would I
get a third child?
Speaker 3 (03:40):
You know, I would say, though, like we do love it,
and I'm being like, you know, obviously like a bit
giby about it all, like, but she is a true
pleasure and she's you know, his parents say she's actually
the greater educator. She is teaching us so so much.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Sure I heard, and I don't know if I don't
know if you were joking or not that sometimes you
leave your own podcast on at home so she doesn't
get lonely.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Oh no, we definitely doing that.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
So you have tuned into a parent. You are parenting this,
you have to.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
So basically, you take her out for a walk and
she sees another dog while on her leaseh and she
just goes crazy. And then if you leave her home
alone for like an even like five ten minutes, she'll
go crazy again. And so we're just we're working through
it and we're not like because everyone wants to give advice,
don't they, And this is what I think my parent
friends talk about it, but you can't. Here's the thing.
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As a dog owner, you can't compare your struggles to parents.
They don't want to. They don't want to hear that
at all. I don't hear it at all. So you
have to just find childless gaze with high needs dogs,
and that's your community. That's who you talk to. Because
as soon as you go, oh, yeah, you had to
sleep this night, and you'll tell me about it. My
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dog was barking at helicopters, they go, no, you don't understand,
and I don't want to hear this.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
So you're two dates into your nine date to it.
New Zealand's So, how's that separation going?
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Is it all right? It's pretty good. We're doing weekends
away Margo and I did Todunga together because my brother
lives there, so she's you know, we had a whole
system set up, babysitters, all that kind of thing. Or
she's actually I should say she's not. She is a
three year old dog, so she's actually like a thirty
five year old woman and dog is living with us,
so she was adult sat by my brother family while
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we did the show. I love touring New Zealand. I
love getting around the country, and it's because it's like,
what my fourth or fifth tour, annual tour. I've got
my favorite little spot. So I just really enjoy, you know,
popping back in and Hi, I'm back on the road again.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Are we quite different in different places? Where is this
sort of the comedy sensibility really the same across keeweys?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Gosh, imagine if the answer was like, yes, so different
to you know, but I truly as boring as the
answer is like, no, I think we're the same. I
think as well, we are the same internationally, you know,
maybe a little reserved, but I don't. I mean, New
Zealand audiences are sort of no one in the comedy
community for being a bit tough because we're quite reserved people.
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We don't like to sort of be seen laughing as well.
But I like to be like, well, I've never heard that.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
I'm not a problem over here.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
There's been pretty loud on my audience in my shows.
They I think that's what I find quite encouraging those
because I think we just still have this weird mentality
sometimes of like, oh, we're just like little old Kiwis
and no one knows about us, and we're just a
team of five million at the bottom of the world.
And then I'm like, oh no, we're like our sensibility
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what we can laugh at as just as you know,
advanced and as complicated and as robust as any kind
of like international audience who might be seeing like comments
at the top of their game. So I'm like, we,
you know, we it's just people, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
That's what I just think in hugely successful New Zealand
comedians have a massive in Australia. I mean, you're taking
off to Edinburgh and London as well this year with
this tour and hugely well no one and well received
in these places.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
I know. I mean, but again, I'm like, when do
we stop acting surprised about this you know, when when
do we start going, Oh no, it's always been this way,
and we've always known that we're crack up, but we
just love to be like who us, you know, I'm like,
I think about us on a sort of global scale
in terms of our industry, our entertainment industry, even broadly,
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you know, like lord, who you know came from this country?
Is a like international, like most talked about pop star
of the year. You've got, like in terms of choreography,
you Mike Paris global is like top of her game.
Comedy directors you think about like Tiger, I'm like, when's it?
What's it going to take for us to realize that
these these aren't mirror calls?
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Absolutely one off.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
This is the fabric of our country that we create
incredible talent.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Oh, you're right, you're right, you're absolutely right. Well, we're
not very good. I think we're getting better at celebrating success.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Makes you think we should invest more in the arts.
Just a little thinking about that?
Speaker 2 (08:26):
I know, yeah, I know it's quite successful. Yeah, stop
being so dramatic. Is that a title? It's aimed at
you or society as a whole, It's.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Aimed at me specifically, I've heard that my whole life.
You know, I am a very what was sort of
noen and my family dining table was that I would
at dinner sort of stand up and storm out late
because my siblings have been driving at me from other side.
And you know, growing up with siblings is just like
a very specific type of mental torture, isn't it, Because
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they just know your weaknesses and they'll push them and
they are brilliant at it, and then somehow get away
purely totally innocent. And then I would storm out and
then I'd give myself about ten minutes to call down,
would the old stopping so dramatic ris I'll come back
in and I'd say, fine, I liked my dessert apropart
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of nothing as well, Like I just sort of come
back in because I was hungry. So I've always sort
of reacted strongly to things, been a very passionate person,
and this show is a like a reclamation of that,
of that starde of myself. I think passion is a
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good thing, and I think passion in this world now
is an amazing thing. So I just think people want
us to be less passionate because it's easier to control
us and get us in line. And there are certain
parts of my stuff from I don't want to get
in that line, you know. So I think I'm just
about holding on to my voltage, you know. That's what
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this show is about.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
The show got great reviews at the Melbourne Comedy Festival,
and one review said Pack plows through anxiety inducing anecdotes
in an earnest attempt to undermine the power of cringe.
And I love that. I don't know if that's it,
that's it. Why are we so afraid of cringe?
Speaker 3 (10:18):
Why do we kind of well, I mean, as a millennial,
I found cringe to like, you know, if that word
got like thrown around the playground, it was like a
death sentence in a way. You're so cringe you couldn't
kind of come back from that. It was almost like
the worst thing you ever hear in your life. I
think number one is when your sister's friends were over,
your older sister's friends, and you're kind of running around
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and doing a show for them, and then you hear
from the other side of the lounge cress stop showing off,
and you cannot come back from that, And I think, yeah,
you're kind of cringe as another one. It's like it's
quite hard for people to see you in a new
light when you're labeled as cringe. I, however, think, you know,
(11:01):
a cringe is just like another way of being like
pulled back, reduce yourself.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
And edit yourself, you know, exactly.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Because I don't like necessarily like what I or it
doesn't like align with how I see or you know,
it's like edit.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
It's so I just need to take ourselves a little
less seriously exactly, just you know, and just sometimes yourself.
But it's okay if you know, And so.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
I do think, yeah, I mean that's what the show examines,
is that potentially cringe. It was after one quite big
night I had out partying that I thought maybe cringe
is the tool of the oppressor. And look that's quite
a dramatic statement. But then it's in the title, isn't
it Absolutely okay?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
So you you've already toured this through Australia that's been
hugely successful. You're doing New Zealand, as I mentioned, You're
then off to London and Edinburgh. Is that generally the
cycle of a comedian and you come up with a
show and you tool that one for is it generally
about a year.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
There's a couple of like yeah, sort of yeah, ideally
do you think about it? I mean really starting to
be like, oh, I'm a business, which my dad has
been like shaking into me, you know, like this is
my job.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yeah. So it's like it's quite good at it and
it's gone quite well and I'm making some money. Oh
this is a job. So yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
But it starts as this passion of yours, this artistic vocation,
and then suddenly it becomes a big operation. And so yeah,
you spend the top half of the year sort of
getting well, first couple of months of the year, getting
that show into shape, and in the latter half of
this year, I'll start developing new material. Right, it's a
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hamster wheel, So you start building up that new material.
You trial out at small shows, working progresses. You're basically
bombing in front of the audience, trying to find out
what's working. Because that's a hard thing about our job
is that we work it out in front of people.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Because Margo's not going to tell you where this She's no.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
She just loves me no matter what. Ukdah is such
an unreliable audience. And then you know you sort of
edit what you've got and try and get it into
an hour, and then you just want to tour it
so much because it's taken so much work and so
much like dying out in front of an audience to
get it to a good shape that you want to
make the most of it. And so Australia is the
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first leg and people do the Adelaide Fringe and then
they do Melbourne Comedy Festival, that's a huge festival, that's
a month, Sydney, Brisbane, Perth, and then that'll lead you
into New Zealand International Comedy Festival, into Edinburgh, and then
you sort of might tour London, you know, UK for
a bat and then you'll be so tired you never
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want to say what you've ever written again. You're so
over it. You're cringing at yourself ironically, and then you'll
be done with it and you start again, and it's
just that you just don't ever seem to get off
of the wheel.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Well, very excited that you've you've managed to fit us in.
Oh you're on the New Zealand tour.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (14:03):
I have a blast, and just continue being as dramatic
as you like.
Speaker 3 (14:06):
I know, I get to go to christ Church next
I'm so excited and it's sold out, Thank goodness because
my parents are coming.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Oh, Chris Parker, thank you so much for your time.
Really appreciate thanks for having me on. And as we mentioned,
Chris is stopping so dramatic to it hits christ Church
next Saturday and then continues around the country. So for
more information, here to Chris Paker Comedy dot com.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
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