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July 12, 2025 4 mins

SEYMOUR VS UN – David Seymour is in a War of words with the UN – talk me through this Thomas. Who has overstepped the line in this case?  

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudgin
from News TALKSB Right time to talk.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
A little bit more about local politics, be joined by
New Zealand Hei Political editor Thomas Coglan. Good morning, Thomas. Right,
David Seymour, isn't a war of words with the UN?
Talk me through this?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Yes, So, look, the u N has these special rappertures.
They effectively are watchdogs of their certain areas. One of
one of these special rapporteurs is one for Indigenous rights UH,
and and that Special rapper rapport has has written to
the government and raised some issues with the Regulatory Stands

(00:48):
Bill in particular, but also the government's generic approach to
general pardon the approach to Indigenous issues. UH. David Seymour,
as the minister responsible for the Regulatory Standard Bill, has
has shot back and basically said that as someone who
has Malory fucker popp him off, the UN's Special Rapperteire

(01:10):
should not be taking his nose him effectively to into
the government's business. David Tymore as a as a person
with Mary's descent, is basically saying, I, as an Mali person,
have every right to make sovereign decisions as a minister
in this government on indigenous issues, and that is an

(01:32):
example of h I guess some this governments approach to
that issue.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
So his his either party in this particular case, overstep
the line.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
That's a very good question. The Special Rapperteur, it is
their job to put these issues under a microscope, like
the the Special Raperteur to his name is Albert Bom
Albert K. Barroom, and that is that is his job
to to hear complaints and I believe he's he has
received complaints from New Zealand about the government's agenda and

(02:08):
to look at them and then to right letters to
the government saying well look, I personally think you've heard
in this area. And David seen where has every right
I guess to the family government's record. So I think
they're both both within their within their emits here.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Right today, the Act Party is going to host US
twenty twenty five rally Free End Equal that's taking place
at shed ten on Auckland's water front. What are we expecting?

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, I'm David Seymour has a speech scheduled later on,
so you can expect the usual tub thumping about how
great he thinks the ACT contribution to the government is so,
so prepare for a bit of that. I think he's
probably going to look at some areas where obviously where
we're halfway through the term now willing to contain mode

(02:55):
And obviously i'll be the first local body elections with
that will feature ACT candidates later this year, so you're
going to see a bit more detail on that. And
I think you know, you're also going to see the
ACTS try to differentiate itself from the Coalition or wea
it by saying, hey, look, you know these are some
of the government's solutions to the cost of Limen crisis.

(03:16):
For example, we think here are some areas where the
Coalition could go further if we had a stronger ACT voice.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Oh you're there to us, Oh yes, Ye're still there.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
And doctor James Lindsay he's an author, he did cynical theories,
he talks about he writes about cultural wars.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Doesn't he Yes, So he's he's a special guest. So
you can you know actors. I suppose in the post
March of Dean kind of environment X took up the
X took up the kind of role of being the
most absolutist, sorry the most the champion of a sort
of absolutist approach to freedom of speech, and and and

(03:57):
and that kind of you know, that's the that's the
state there, the political claim to that area. So sort
of invited James Lindsay over as as a as a
guest guest speaker, which I guess shows that they are
continuing to see a lot of political benefit to to
bring that particular drum.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
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