Winston Peters is sounding the alarm over high levels of immigration, pointing to issues within Europe as a catalyst for further changes to our system.
The New Zealand First leader's long rallied against mass immigration, and is hinting at a beefed up policy at the next election.
Newstalk ZB political reporter Azaria Howell says NZ First's Shane Jones has also indicated immigration will be a key topic ahead of the next NZ First convention in September.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
EDB joining me now News talksz to Be political reporter
Azaria how Good morning is Aria?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So Jamie Enzow has a piece in The Herod on
Sunday Today, an interview with Foreign Affairs Minister and Leader
of New Zealand First talking quite a lot about immigration.
This is Winston Peters talking to Jamie.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
But if you look around the world, this is an
alarming development. You see in Spain, door, I say it,
in Germany, recently in Ireland, many cities in England. People
are concerned us where their countries are going, and New
Zealanders are no different. They are more acutely aware of
the problem is you're dealing with here than the politicians are.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You think New Zealanders are more concerned now about immigration
than in the.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Past, Yes, I do so, Azaria. What else did the
minister have to say about immigration?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So. The three year election cycle already feels quite fast.
New Zealand first seemingly trying to distance its from those
other parties in the coalition, those being National and Act
by having a huge focus on that immigration question. Winston
Peters spoke to The Herald saying essentially that they're the
only nationalist political party in New Zealand and the rest
(01:23):
of what he calls globalists also interesting to me. When
Winston Peters was asked his thoughts on the coalition, he
said nobody's beyond a redemption, which is a pretty strong
phrase of words there from mister Peters. Now also MP
New Zealand First MP Shane Jones says immigration will be
a big topic at the New Zealand First convention that's
(01:44):
in September, So we'll keep you posted as to whether
or not this is a big policy platform that New
Zealand First tries to sort of distance itself from those
other political parties on. But it seems like quite strong
words from mister Peters in terms of talking about immigration
and talking about migration being seen as an issue by
(02:05):
some people.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Now no longer Deputy Prime Minister Asaria. It does feel
like we're heading into campaign mode.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It absolutely does. Yeah, and I mean seeing as the
party conferences happening relatively soon, New Zealand First one in September.
I believe the Greens are are next month, so it
is all sort of ramping up, and it definitely seems
like the campaign is already underway, which feels a bit
weird to say, seeing as local elections are still haven't
(02:34):
happened yet.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
What those little things a Zaria I've just been talking
about the changes to the electoral laws announced this week.
What was the reaction in the House.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, this is a massive one. So just to recap
the key changes on that. On the day, enrollment scrap
so people can no longer rock up to a voting
booth without being registered and vote. Also, enrollments will close
thirteen days before the election day. And also you can't
provide free food, drink or entertainment within one hundred meters
(03:06):
of a polling place. That is set to carry a
ten thousand dollar fine. Also, which has been kind of
signaled before by the government, a total ban on prisoner voting.
So it's going to be one to keep an eye
on in terms of how this goes through the process
in Parliament, the Select Committee and the readings in Parliament
in terms of what people actually say about this act.
(03:28):
Party leader David Seymour is backing the changes. He essentially said,
if you don't enroll soon enough, maybe you don't really
care about politics. He also used the term dropkicks to
refer to people who who maybe don't get themselves enrolled.
But the Greens not happy about it. They say the
government is reducing democracy and making it harder for people
(03:49):
to vote. Labor with a similar take as the Greens
as well. They're saying tens of thousands of people will
miss out on this, and Labour's Justice spokesperson Duncan Webb
says that the move is appalling, so I'm sure there'll
be some strong words as well once this bill in
the name of Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith actually gets read
out and debated in the Parliament. So definitely want to
(04:11):
keep an eye on and I'm sure it'll be a
feisty debate.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Azariah, let's stick with elections. The by election campaign for
Tamakimikado is really heating up, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, absolutely so. Election day is the sixth of September,
which is actually quite soon to be honest. This by
election in the seat of Tamaki Mikoto comes after the
death of Tepati Maldi MP Takutai tash Camp. Now the
people who are running for this seat, Tapati Maldi's Odini Kaipita.
You might know that name. She's a former news Hub presenter, yes,
(04:44):
and she was I believe one of the first or
maybe the first person with a tamoko to present the news,
so she's quite a big name. Also, she's going up
against Labor Labour's current MP, Peni Hannada. He's a list MP,
but he's trying to win that seat and if he does,
Labor will get a list MP to replace him. But
(05:06):
both of them have been out in the community this
weekend in the effort to try and win over some votes.
So Labor leader Chris Hopkins actually joined Peni Hennade at
the Ottada markets. Ordini Kaipota was campaigning in Monyoderwa as well,
so they're trying to get active in those communities, trying
to show their face and see if it can actually
(05:26):
translate to some votes in terms of that Maldi seat
in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Zarah Hawl, thanks for your time this morning. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks it'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
EDB joining me now News talksz to Be political reporter
Azaria how Good morning is Aria?
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
So Jamie Enzow has a piece in The Herod on
Sunday Today, an interview with Foreign Affairs Minister and Leader
of New Zealand First talking quite a lot about immigration.
This is Winston Peters talking to Jamie.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
But if you look around the world, this is an
alarming development. You see in Spain, door, I say it,
in Germany, recently in Ireland, many cities in England. People
are concerned us where their countries are going, and New
Zealanders are no different. They are more acutely aware of
the problem is you're dealing with here than the politicians are.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
You think New Zealanders are more concerned now about immigration
than in the.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Past, Yes, I do so, Azaria. What else did the
minister have to say about immigration?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (01:00):
So. The three year election cycle already feels quite fast.
New Zealand first seemingly trying to distance its from those
other parties in the coalition, those being National and Act
by having a huge focus on that immigration question. Winston
Peters spoke to The Herald saying essentially that they're the
only nationalist political party in New Zealand and the rest
(01:23):
of what he calls globalists also interesting to me. When
Winston Peters was asked his thoughts on the coalition, he
said nobody's beyond a redemption, which is a pretty strong
phrase of words there from mister Peters. Now also MP
New Zealand First MP Shane Jones says immigration will be
a big topic at the New Zealand First convention that's
(01:44):
in September, So we'll keep you posted as to whether
or not this is a big policy platform that New
Zealand First tries to sort of distance itself from those
other political parties on. But it seems like quite strong
words from mister Peters in terms of talking about immigration
and talking about migration being seen as an issue by
(02:05):
some people.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Now no longer Deputy Prime Minister Asaria. It does feel
like we're heading into campaign mode.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
It absolutely does. Yeah, and I mean seeing as the
party conferences happening relatively soon, New Zealand First one in September.
I believe the Greens are are next month, so it
is all sort of ramping up, and it definitely seems
like the campaign is already underway, which feels a bit
weird to say, seeing as local elections are still haven't
(02:34):
happened yet.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
What those little things a Zaria I've just been talking
about the changes to the electoral laws announced this week.
What was the reaction in the House.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yeah, this is a massive one. So just to recap
the key changes on that. On the day, enrollment scrap
so people can no longer rock up to a voting
booth without being registered and vote. Also, enrollments will close
thirteen days before the election day. And also you can't
provide free food, drink or entertainment within one hundred meters
(03:06):
of a polling place. That is set to carry a
ten thousand dollar fine. Also, which has been kind of
signaled before by the government, a total ban on prisoner voting.
So it's going to be one to keep an eye
on in terms of how this goes through the process
in Parliament, the Select Committee and the readings in Parliament
in terms of what people actually say about this act.
(03:28):
Party leader David Seymour is backing the changes. He essentially said,
if you don't enroll soon enough, maybe you don't really
care about politics. He also used the term dropkicks to
refer to people who who maybe don't get themselves enrolled.
But the Greens not happy about it. They say the
government is reducing democracy and making it harder for people
(03:49):
to vote. Labor with a similar take as the Greens
as well. They're saying tens of thousands of people will
miss out on this, and Labour's Justice spokesperson Duncan Webb
says that the move is appalling, so I'm sure there'll
be some strong words as well once this bill in
the name of Justice Minister Paul Goldsmith actually gets read
out and debated in the Parliament. So definitely want to
(04:11):
keep an eye on and I'm sure it'll be a
feisty debate.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Azariah, let's stick with elections. The by election campaign for
Tamakimikado is really heating up, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, absolutely so. Election day is the sixth of September,
which is actually quite soon to be honest. This by
election in the seat of Tamaki Mikoto comes after the
death of Tepati Maldi MP Takutai tash Camp. Now the
people who are running for this seat, Tapati Maldi's Odini Kaipita.
You might know that name. She's a former news Hub presenter, yes,
(04:44):
and she was I believe one of the first or
maybe the first person with a tamoko to present the news,
so she's quite a big name. Also, she's going up
against Labor Labour's current MP, Peni Hannada. He's a list MP,
but he's trying to win that seat and if he does,
Labor will get a list MP to replace him. But
(05:06):
both of them have been out in the community this
weekend in the effort to try and win over some votes.
So Labor leader Chris Hopkins actually joined Peni Hennade at
the Ottada markets. Ordini Kaipota was campaigning in Monyoderwa as well,
so they're trying to get active in those communities, trying
to show their face and see if it can actually
(05:26):
translate to some votes in terms of that Maldi seat
in Auckland.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Zarah Hawl, thanks for your time this morning. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
For more from the Sunday session with Francesca Rudkin, listen
live to News Talks it'd be from nine am Sunday,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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