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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Sunday Session podcast with Francesca Rudkin
from News Talks EDB.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
This is a Sunday Session. Good to have you with
us right Hollywood icon Paul Fig has made a career
out of comedies. He's created or directed the likes of
Freaks and Geeks, Bridesmaids, the US version of the Office,
Arrested Development, and Ghostbusters. Paul's latest film is a psychological
thriller adapted from FREEDA mcfernen's viral book tok Hit The Housemaid.
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I do not know how he puts up with her.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Who's a heart stand?
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I'm willing you go out of here.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You're leaving.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
No who has heard me?
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I want you to feel safe here. I don't know
what I do without you.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Oh my god, what kind of monsters are we?
Speaker 2 (01:03):
The Housemaid is in cinemas on Christmas Day. Paul Director
Paul Fig, thank you so much for your time. It
is a delight to talk to you, and.
Speaker 3 (01:11):
You too, my goodness, thank you. It's such an honor.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
What do you love about thrillers?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
I love them. They're my favorite thing to watch, you know.
I like high stakes things. I like to lean in
I like to gasp. I like to be surprised. I
like to feel tension. You know, I'm in the comedy
is my bread and butter, and so it's a bit
of a bustman's holiday for me to watch comedy. But
I just I love the high stakes of a thriller
and the twists and the turns. I love it. I
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just I think it's the greatest genre.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, you're sure delivered a lot of that in this film.
You've got You've got a dreamcast on your hands. You've
got Sydney Sweeney, You've got Amanda Seyfried, You've got Brendan
Skinner Sar Skleinnar. Thank you? Was this that your dream team?
Speaker 3 (02:00):
It? Truly? Was? It? Truly was? I mean, I've been
such a big fan of Sydney's for a while now.
Once I saw her the movie Reality, and I thought
she was just she's gonna blew me away with with
what she did in that, And so that was the
moment I was like, Wow, she's great. I want to
work with her. Amanda I had had coffee with ten
years prior, you know, just a general meeting to see
if we would, you know, could figure out something to
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do together. It was like, we love each other, we
have to figure this something out. And then when this
came along ten years later, it was like, ah, we
finally I've got the I've got the role that you're
going to kill him. And then Brandon had just worked
with my friend Blake Lively and it ends with us,
and when we were doing another civil favor, she kept saying, like,
you've got to meet Brandon. You got to He's the
greatest guy. And I was like, okay, okay, I'm sure
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he's fine. And then when I had a meeting with
him he walked in, I was like, Okay, he's he's
cast Like I mean, he's Like what a presence that
guy has. He's unbelievable and so talented.
Speaker 2 (02:51):
I would also love to mention Indiana l who plays
Nina and Andrew's child, the Young CEC, because because how
often do you get this young talent in the room
that can hold their own with such established adult actors.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, Indiana is amazing, you know, because it's you know,
I've worked with a lot of kids over the years
and had great success with it, but it's always you're
always kind of like, oh no, I hope this works
out and you know, we saw a lot of kids,
but honestly, Indiana was the very first first little actor
we saw and she was so good. It was like
nobody could top her and she just really held her
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own with with you know, a very talented cast. So yeah,
hats off and hats off to Michayla Maroney, my buddy
who plays a Enzo the Gardener, who was in another
simple Favor. He's a gorgeous man and a wonderful guy.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
For those who are not familiar with that, this book went,
the book that the film is adapted on went viral
on book talk, and that community can be quite intense
when you know, when it comes to the books they love.
Were you thinking about when you that when you were
turning it into a film, or do you purely go, Okay,
I'm going to make the best decisions here for film,
not the book.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Lovers, Well, you want to you don't want to thumb
your nose of the book lovers. You want, you know,
to make sure that they are going to be satisfied
since the book is so big, I mean, it's such
a popular book. It's bet the bestseller list for almost
two years now, So you don't want to not pay
attention to that, but at the same time, you don't
want to get so involved in fan service that you're
excluding people who haven't read the book yet. And so
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my math is always like, make sure that the book
lovers are getting what they were hoping for part of
the book, but then give them a little bit more
so there's still a surprise. So even if you read
the book, you're going like, oh, I didn't expect that
to happen, or that's that's going beyond what I thought
was going to happen there. And then for people who
don't know the book, you just want them to have
a pure storytelling experience of being surprised. But you know,
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I always say like, if you ever read the book yet,
buy the book, then watch the movie, and then read
the book. That's the most fun way, because you'd be
surprised in the cinema and then you'll have fun seeing
what we got it from.
Speaker 2 (04:55):
That's really interesting because I got sent the book and
then I went but everyone keeps telling me that all
these twists and turns, I don't want to ruin the movie.
So I've just iron you, no, I'm not going to
read the book. I've seen the movie and I'll go
back and read the book.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
Exactly because then you get to like really settle in
with it and all that. No, no, thank you, everybody
listen to you.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
There are more books in the series. Would you contemplate
you know, adicting those as well?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
That would be the hope. I mean, it's such a
great character of the housemaid, you know, the character of
Millie that the Sidney Sweeney plays is I just I
love it, and so you know, never say never would
be nice. We'll see how this one does.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
So how did you come across the story? Did someone
give you the book? Did you read the book? Did
people tell you about it? What grabed you about it
when you stumbled across it?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Well, apparently it was Sydney had found the book and
then it kind of approached Lionsgate with it, and so
when it came to me, Sidney was attached. So that
was a big thrill for me because they wanted to
work with her. But then when I read the script,
I was just like, wow, this is kind of got
a lot of stuff in it that I love. You know,
It's a really compelling story that takes a twist and
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then kind of goes in the direction you're not expecting.
And that's my favorite thing. I love to be in
a movie and go like, oh like you like, I
can't believe that just happened. That's really fun And so
as a filmmaker is like the fun of like, how
do we set that up? How do we make that happen? Then?
How do we get these twisty, turny things going.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
You mentioned before that comedy has been your sort of
bread and butter. Are they are these similarities between comedy
and thrillers when making a film.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, very much so. Thriller's horror, comedy. They're all related
because they're all about very extreme emotions being being you know,
gotten out of an audience. You know, a laugh is
very close to a to a scare is very close
to a stream as close to a gasp, and if
you if you do one of those, you should do
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the other thing. The minute you scream at something or
jump from something, you gotta laugh afterwards. And so it's
really fun to elicit that emotion because that keeps people
so invested. You know, I want I want audiences to
watch my movies leaning forward. I don't want people to
be sit back and like you know, casual leading popcorn.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I think that's I think that's how important though, And
I also think you need to see your movies in
a cinema. It needs to be a communal experience. You know.
I still have a very clear memory of who I
watch Bridesmaids with, and I just remember being in this
you know, this this room full of people who were
all laughing. We were all in it together, and it
you feel a lot more connected, don't you. Then if
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you just sitt of sitting at home streaming another film.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Well, this is what makes movies so special. And that's
why theatrical movies are so important because the first time
you see something like you said, you carry that with you.
So then when you're watching at home Bridesmaids again, or
watching another movie that you had a great experience in
the theater, it's like you're back with those people again.
You're reliving that experience of remembering like, oh my gosh,
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this got a giant laugh and all we all streamed
here and we all, you know, clutched our pearls here.
That's very important. I love streaming because it gets you
to be able to make things that normally wouldn't be made.
But there's nothing like the theatrical experience. And I'm so
happy that The Housemaid is comeing out theatrically, you know, only.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So do you have that preference for cinema or for
streaming or do you just accept that in you know,
in this day and age, both a mix is good,
you know.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I mean, no shade on streaming. It's great to get
certain projects made. But to me, there's nothing nothing like
having a theatrical movie. That's that's what I've come up
through the business on. You know, all my movies were
that until the last three, which were streaming, and you know,
because of COVID and all that, it was a blessing
that I got to make those movies for streaming. But
I'm thrilled, thrilled to be back in the theater.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
And I think the other thing is a lot of
your films have have stood the test of time and
have quite a following. What gives a film longevity in following?
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Do you think it's characters? It's the human condition. It's
not about you know, making jokes about culture and about
current you know, media and pop culture and all that
kind of thing. It's about the human condition because that
never changes, you know, our emotions and our feelings towards
each other and our insecurities towards each other, and all
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that are universal. And they travel across international borders, and
they travel across time, and so that gives you the
longevity that you want versus something that's just sort of
chasing something that's popular at the moment. You really want
to have a deep connection to characters.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
There are comedic moments in this film, as we would
expect from you, just to just to give us a
moment to kind of, you know, take take a breath
in things. But if we if we look in terms
of true comedy, where is that a I imagine that
has changed a lot of your career. I mean, we're
not seeing so many straight out comedies with specialist comedic
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actors in them in our cinemas so much anymore.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Yeah, it is a shame. I mean, it's just it's
a look comedy kind of ebbs and flows. You know.
Sometimes people just want straight out just I'm just having
a hilarious time, and other times they want higher stakes.
And I kind of I'm enjoying this period because I
like the higher stakes you know, movies and and the storytelling.
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But finding a way to make it fun still, you know,
you want it to be you want to be thrilling
and scary intense first, but then you want that release
of these moments that are funny. You know. That's what
Hitchcock was so great at doing, and that's why those
movies stand the test of time too, is they had
funny side characters and funny interactions and extreme personalities.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
And it looked like the cast was having a lot
of fun filming this as well. You know you could
kind of see that. I think especially Amanda had so
much fun with her character Nina.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
Yeah, I mean that's such a The character of Nina
is such you know, if you've read the book, it's
such a fun role because she's so unpredictable and and
you know, Millie never knows who she's gonna be talking
to when she Nina approaches, and that's just cating it
for an actor. And Nanda just had so much fun.
We the two of us had so much fun, like
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like trying different things with her to be to make
her unnerving or to make her like stranger. And then
you know, then Sidney played so well off of her,
just you know, Sidney's such a great subtle actor who
just really hides her strengths until they come out and
then you're like, you know, her characters and all her
movies always have a moment where they just kind of
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really you know, come out and explode, and that's really
fun to watch her set up that slow burn.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
And I imagine with comedy there's a lot of opportunity
to improvise, to do things differently. Is it the same
when you're working on a thrill that we you happy
to sort of collaborate with your with your actors.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Yeah, I mean it's a different kind of playing around
on the set, and with comedy you're always trying to
just come up with different jokes and really surprise each other.
A thriller is a pretty tightly scripted thing. You have
to not get off of the off of the blueprint
that you have that is creating the tension. But it's
within the moment to moments that's where you can play
and play with like how you react to something and
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how somebody the look they give or how they kind
of just how they react to the other character in
the moment. That's that's to me is the most fun
of like trying to figure out what can we get
away with in those.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Moments, I heard you say that this might be your
boost best movie. What is it about this one that
you think makes it your best work?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
It just accomplishes everything I wanted it to accomplish. It's
very true to the thriller genre, but it's still fun,
and it's very sexy, and it's very you know, it's
an adult movie. It's a grown up movie, which I love,
you know, with this great young cast, but it's you know,
it is a it's a mature movie, but it's still
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a very fun ride at the end of the day.
And so you really get taken through a lot. I mean,
people kind of walk out of the movie slightly exhausted
because you really got, you know, taken on a ride.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Absolutely. I saw it first thing in the morning and
it kind of threw me for the whole day.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
So that woke you up.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Sure did, Paul. It's been an absolute delight to talk
to you. Thank you so much, and we're really looking
forward to the film being out on Boxing Day. Have
a lovely Christmas.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Thank you so much. And then New Zealand. I hope
to see you soon.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
That was Hollywood director Paul fig and his new film
The Housemaid is in Cinema's on Boxing Day.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
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