Astros Fall To Mariners, Yordan's Updated Status, MNF Results, Phillies Clinch NL East

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Saulsbury.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Sean Salisbury, The usc Truth, longtime friend, Shawn Salisbury.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Bryan Lima, go Lobos. This is the Sean Salisbury Show.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Welcome back in the studio. Good to be here. I'm
getting there, man, getting closer.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
All's well, how you guys doing? Yeah, man, good morning.
Jordan has uh let's see a knee sprain. Officially had
some X rays yesterday, showed some inflammation, got an MRI
and it shows that he has a knee spring. He's
gonna be out this series, but the hope is he
can play against the Guardians.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Yeah. I really don't know how to trust this, To
be honest with you, I don't and I don't mean
it just I'm just talking about history wise. I don't
know how to treat this with the with the Astros,
I don't even know why. I mean they The question
is that is it just a bruce? Is it just

(01:12):
a sprain? Should I say because the last one was
just a deep bruise? Right? Yeah? Now, I understand they
protect their players, but uh, you have reason if you're
a fan to question how severe this is. Is it
just really just a two game thing? He's back no
problem or is it deeper than that? And they're hoping

(01:32):
that he recovers quick. But I get why they pretend,
like I said, after the history of knowing when they've
told us, you know, from Javier sore Neck and he's
on the eye out with it, you know, Tommy john
So with Kyle Tucker, Bruce Chin seventy plus games later,
he's planning. So I get why they protect him. But
I also I tread lightly and knowing when somebody's coming back.

(01:56):
I actually think for me, as good as this team
hit when they're going good and they are relentless, but
there are times this year when they've gone through streaks
of they just don't hit. My biggest concern is in
a short series they picked two games not to hit, Yeah,
and you get eliminated. Yeah. And that I mean one

(02:17):
day you look at it and then Jordan's got two
home runs, three guys hit his solo, I mean, all Homer,
they rake up seventeen hits and you're like, all's well.
Then two of the next three games they can't muster
up two runs. That it concerns me that they could
go through a quick series of we just didn't rake

(02:39):
and if they do that. That's the scary part of
a wild card round.

Speaker 5 (02:43):
Yeah, and especially if you go against the Tigers, because
the way it stands right now, Scooble is going to
pitch game one for the Tigers against the Astros in
a wild card series. That guy's nasty.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Yeah. And then when you get up a game, guess
what now you Yeah? Now, the pressure falls severely on
the team who's down one. I just my concern is,
I never thought i'd say this about this team. Is
the consistent raking throughout the playoffs because when they're cold
at the wrong time. Now, fortunately, their pitching has been

(03:16):
good enough to keep them in games when they don't
score a lot. But like games last night, what they
did four hits. Yeah, And if you go through two
games like that, and I assure you the Detroit's pitching
staff is formidable at the top and pretty good and
relief too, and they're playing really good baseball the second
half of the season. It's a dangerous situation that concerns me.

(03:36):
And Jordan's injury, I'll until I see him back out
there going one hundred percent, then it'll concern me about
how severe it actually is.

Speaker 5 (03:45):
Yeah, And we know how it goes with the imaging
and medical reporting. Injury reporting from the astros. The original
scan for Kyle Tucker showed a bone bruise. Christian Navier
had a neck injury justin Verland or just a neck injury,
next thing you know, Tommy John for Christian Javier, next

(04:06):
thing you know, two and a half months for Justin Verlander.
So knee sprain. I don't know if that's good news.
I don't know if that's bad news. I'm assuming it's
better news that to hear that there's no injury with
his ac L, m c L, whatever else is in there.
What it's elus in their PCL. The ligaments seem to
be okay. Oh, I can tell you in the knee

(04:27):
injury world, you would know better than anybody.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
In the knee injury is sprain, knee is the world
is fine, severe sprain. There's no way he's missing just
two games or three with US series. If it's severe. Now,
if they can clinch this and give him a little
extra rest, maybe that's a good thing. But until I
see him out there with withhold my judgment on oh yeah,

(04:54):
he'll be back in two days. I don't know if
he'll be back in two days because I've seen them.
I mean, what was supposed to be two weeks ended
up seventy five or whatever games for Kyle Tucker. So
we'll see. I just know this, this team has to
hit in a short series. You can't go two games
without it because the pitching now, everybody's pitching is good,
and the first game, the first series, you'll face that
Detroit team's pitching is really good upfront, especially the guy

(05:17):
they're gonna run out there first. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
Yeah, last night for the Astros, like you said, four hits,
Al Tuvey, Diez Pania, Jason Hayward. They scored one run
and it was on a solo blast from Jason Hayward.
And Hunter Brown did a nice job again last night. Yeah,
six and these pitch three hits, one and run eight.
K's three walks.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Good. Trust. It seems like every time he goes out
now he's giving you a good outing, giving me a chance.
But you're not gonna win even with that. You'll waste
an out and given up one run as you saw
last night, in a clinching situation. So it's not like
it didn't matter. They were trying to win it last
night and get it over with, and Seattle said not yet.
So there we go.

Speaker 5 (05:59):
Caleb Ferguson came in, gave up a run, Brian King
came in, gave up two runs, Seth Martinez two runs,
bullpens a little beat up.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
I mean this, we're getting down to the stretch, and.

Speaker 5 (06:12):
Man, oh man, first of all, you just got to
clinch the division four game lead. Gotta win tonight from
Valdez on the mound, Like I'm not trying to trying
to go to that whole route of it's a must
win game, but damn, you gotta get this division locked
up so you can at least secure a playoff spot.
You don't want to, you don't have to come down
to you know, God forbid you lose two out of

(06:33):
three or get swept by the Mariners. Next thing you know,
you're pressing and you're going into Cleveland, take on the
Guardians and.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Listen. And the last thing you want to do is
let this thing fester until you get no rest at all. Right,
So then whant to say no rest? At least you
clinch it. You can pick and choose who you want
to get rest on any given day, and if if
even on the mound. You can skip a start if
that's what you need for somebody, and move somebody up,
slide somebody in, if somebody needs a little extra rest.

(07:03):
Whatever it is you want to do, you can do that.
But not until it's done and stranger things have happened.
They say, I want to put that you don't want
to be in that situation. Yeah, And they say no
rest for the wicked? Is the wicked or the weary? Wicked?
It is money, don't grow on trees.

Speaker 5 (07:22):
No rest for the weary, or no west for the
No rest for the wicked. Yeah, this one is ain't
no rest for the wicked. Cage the Elephant.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Was this a song? Yeah? Okay, what we had today?
How on to Tuesday?

Speaker 5 (07:34):
I was to say, if we had alternative rock today,
I could, you know, throw that bad boy up there?

Speaker 2 (07:39):
Whose things? That well known band, Cage the Elephant. Yeah,
I love them, great group. I can't wait to see
him live. Really Yeah, I'll get you a couple of tickets.
Oh I got them backstage. Oh are you like a groupie? Well,
I'm sorry a roadie. We're just tight. I follo him around,
wear the T shirts all the time. That's good.

Speaker 5 (08:01):
I love I love those old school alternative T shirts.
Sh They're pretty sweet. Yeah, unlike them. Do you do
you think there is something to be said with how
how this season has gone for the Houston Astros and
that they just flat out might be tired having to

(08:21):
grind out so many different wins to cut that tent
they started ten to twenty four, right, So what I'm
saying is, do you think it comes to.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
A point where you just hit a wall? Right?

Speaker 5 (08:33):
And you know, I'm not I'm not saying you need
the rest, but like, damn, like, it's got to be
a lot this season to climb out of a ten
and twenty four hole. You're down ten games in the division,
you bust your ass with all these different injuries, and
then just you get to a certain point you're like, God,
I'm just this is just exhausting.

Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, that's real. Where you've extended all every ounce of
energy emotionally, physically, and mentally and there's nothing left in
the tank. I think that exists. Fortunately it can't, Yeah,
it can't. Dodgers are tired, Uh, the the Atlanta Braves
are tired. I'm sure Philly's tired. Who was in the

(09:10):
World Series last year Arizona and the Rangers. Rangers obviously
played tired all year. The Arizona's tired and they're in
a grind, trying to trying to get themselves in this,
you know, in a in a good position. So yeah, no,
you're you're I do believe that's real. I do believe
that you can expend so much energy in the chase
by the time you need to kick. It's like somebody

(09:31):
who kicks too early, but they needed to kick. They
had to or they wouldn't even be in this position
to be in the division lead right now with a
chance to clinch. Yeah, I believe. I don't know how
much it exists here, but I do believe it does exist.
That you extend all and every ounce of the energy
you got and by the time you get there, you say, man,
what's left in the tank? Hence why you got us?

(09:54):
I mean the kid. It's weird, it's I know, it
sounds it is like a race that did we did
we kick too early? But unfortunately they put themselves in
position early to have to chase the entire year. Well
when I say chase the entire until they got up
So what the last they've had a lead for what
two months now, yeah, a month and a half whatever
it's been, Yeah, something like that. But at that point

(10:15):
in time, now you're saying, we don't want to fall
into it because you know your whole thought was, well,
Seattle's going to get hot again, and they really haven't
extended hotness for a while now. They've been up and
down the hole, well since service, before he got fired,
after he got fired, it's just kind of been up
and down for them. So you're in a great position.
But yes, I do believe it exists. But you have
to reserve enough in the tank, or be veteran enough

(10:37):
in the tank, and have enough youth that you've got
to somehow, some way, you've got to call on that
energy level that's there and whatever's on reserve, because I'm
sure everybody's tired at the astros a little extra. This
will be a lot of years in a row where
they're playing extra baseball and it'll catch up to you. Yeah,
that can't be an excuse in the end, though, the
cap the chase mode is more so what I was

(11:00):
trying to say, but you said it way more elegantly
than I did. They do they chase so hard that
that when you when you chase that hard that you
can I've seen it on teams and then all of
a sudden, you get to the last three or four games,
say okay, we're here, and then you just can't quite
muster up enough. Now they're gonna win the division. They're
gonna take care, they're gonna win a game and finish

(11:22):
and finish this thing off. But it's just a it's
tough sledding, man, it's tough sledden, and it's hard to win.
And it's hard to win when you've been in the
you know you're the you're the dog chasing the rabbit
the whole time. You're not the rabbit, and they've been
the rabbit in the division. But it didn't feel comfortable ever.
Even at five and a half, you felt like six
games it feels better. But baseball's too odd. We've seen

(11:45):
too many people come down late and finish and go
on a streak where you're like, well they won ten
in a row. Yeah, So important to keep that in mind.
But they have to muster up the strength. And you
hope that injuries and you know the veterans that they've
overcome the injuries that they can handle as the veteran group,
knowing how to get the rest necessary and mentally be
sharp enough to take care of their business.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Joe Spotta spoke to the media last night about Jordn
Alvarez and his injury.

Speaker 2 (12:12):
What is the latest and how much time could he miss?

Speaker 5 (12:14):
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Speaker 2 (13:44):
Good good broadcasters there too, Andre Ware.

Speaker 5 (13:47):
Yeah, you know Heisman Trophy winner, former uahed quarterback.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm driving a car. Listen to he and I mean
that broadcast team and it's a why am I losing
my mind? Play Mark fan Mark vandam Yeah they do.
They do a really good job too.

Speaker 5 (14:01):
He went on a little rant about Laramie Tunseel during
their broadcast. That clip was. I saw it on one
of the big NFL like podcaster Twitter's Twitter account. There's
the dude's got like half a million followers, and he
posted the clip because he was listening on like the
NFL app or something, and oh my gosh, it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
It's andre.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
He's like, you're a pro bowler. This can't happen. It's
every week it's.

Speaker 2 (14:27):
Again.

Speaker 5 (14:27):
Mark Vannerman just goes right into his next play call.
It was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Years been trying to I've been trying to eliminate I don't.
I don't get it. I don't. For as all the
great things we say about tunsl the player, you just
you can't do it. It's it's maddening to me. I've
never seen anything like it. Yeah, I've played in loud stadiums,
I've played with pro bowlers, I've played with rookies who started,
and I've never seen any of them do this. One

(14:53):
of them and they're like, damn, I it's it's it's
a stone cold lock. Yeah, that he's gonna get penalized
once or twice a week. It's it's a stone cold lock.
It's a'd be more shocking if he didn't get a penalty, right,
not that if he did, And it's it's it's fascinating
to me, it really is. I know we joke about
and say it's not that it is a big deal,

(15:13):
and it's And I'm gonna tell you what I thought
about it last night, after our show, throughout the day,
and after our show was over. Hit me a couple
of different times. I thought his explanation was was weak.
So that's what I was about to ask you. I
thought it was a cop out, and I thought it
was zero accountability, and it was an I confess he
did it about both of them lining up wrong as
you with your visual you know, and communication if nobody

(15:38):
else jumped on the snap count, why did you right?
If the kid no the communication, maybe you got to
listen better. Like I said, we are we complimentary of him.
Matter of fact, we go through to the ends of
the earth to compliment the guy when to anybody when
they're playing great football. But I don't care that he's
a pro bowler. I could care. I'll tell you what
I do care about that as a leader and a

(15:58):
pro bowler, you probably need a little bit more. I
can't do this because it's not sitting. I know better
than to put my teammates in a situation like this,
long yardage and losing first downs at times. But the
answer to me was no, it's not on me, and
that bothers me. Even if he thought there was miscommunication,

(16:19):
just like you tell your quarterback now, we're going to
get this fixed. It's my bad. He's got to take
the account of But no, no, no, four other cats
up front weren't jumping six other guys at the line.
It was six other dudes weren't jumping. I'm the one.
So if there's a miscommunication, maybe he's got to pay
more of it, more attention and dial in his focus
during the week on snap count and how he aligns.

(16:41):
And no, I assured that. And I don't care what
any what any Texans fan says that they're not reputable
enough in the league over a history of it to
have somebody in for the Texans. They didn't do anything.
It's not like what happened with the Astros. They're just
a team on the rise. They've got a lot of
a coach that everybody loves. A quarterback I mean, what's

(17:03):
not the like they've cleared out a lot of the
slop that was a part of this organization and they're
head in the right direction. They lost the game and
it was an ugly loss. They got their ass kicked,
and that's gonna happen. Hey, listen, Mike Tyson got beat,
didn't he And one time he got beat? They all,
you're gonna get beat. You'd watched the UFC and say,
oh that guy, somebody comes in there kicking, gets the

(17:25):
right kick in, hits you. Right, you're gonna get beat.
He doesn't mean you got to stay there. It's not
a life sentence. They'd get back up and they're gonna
be fine. You could be the Bengals today. You're zero
and three and everybody thought you were a super Bowl
caliber team. Now mean they are right. We did, I
mean held Baltimore. Kev'n't put four quarters together yet they
almost gave it away. The Cowboys. Cowboys are one and two.
Josh Allen and Buffalo Bills looked like they're Super Bowl champions.

(17:47):
That guy's talk about a guy who even elevated his
game more when he's got less help. How much can
that guy do so for me, as much as we
love players and give them compliments, and I don't care
that Tunsel. The only thing I care about as a
veteran like that you should take you should understand that
you do carry an extra burden to make sure the
other guys get it to me. I thought more about it.

(18:10):
Let him, We let him more off the hook on
the What he said about it, Well, I know this
because you guys are calling it on me. No, we
watched the penalties be called on you every and we
saw the movement he said, as if we just guessed.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
He said, I'll take accountability since they're calling my name,
meaning the rests are saying it over the loudspeaking.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
Well, there was ten other guys that the line, Ten
other guys on offense. Yeah, ten of them didn't jump.
One did. Why you did, tuns Yeah. So as much
as I like him, he's not above the criticism. He's
earned it because this isn't just a two week thing.
You say, man, he's having brain fagged one of those
two week roles. This is eight years. Yeah, this is

(18:49):
this is every single year. So I thought even more yesterday,
can we change it? You know what I'm gonna say
this no, he can't until he proves that he can
now ball snap dude gets his hands on you, good luck.
But until then, there's no worse offensive lineman in the
league pre snapped than him. And that's been the case

(19:11):
four years, right, because whatever it is, focus wise, you
can't do it. If that wasn't, if that wasn't a
pro bowler there, you would be fit to be tied over.
You couldn't. Your head would explode. Try to explain to
what it is a matter of fact. On a broadcast,
you'd say you got to get his ass out. If
he wasn't Laromy Tunzel the player when the ball snapped,
you would say, you cannot play that guy.

Speaker 5 (19:33):
Yeah, three weeks in ten penalties. Yeah, you're making a move.
Just as good good as he is once the ball
is snapped. He's just as bad or worse before the
ball snapped. Now you think about that, for a pro
bowler who's one of the best in the league, if
he sews that up, what's not the like about his game?

Speaker 2 (19:51):
He would be one of the best. So, and I
don't like the the deflecting either thing. You earned it, brother,
you earned it pre snat pal. You're asking your stance
and wait till the ball moves. Okay, And if you
give up a sack trying a guy Michael Parsons type
ran by you one time tackle him at the waist,

(20:11):
take your holding penalty, and we'll say we get it.
I watched the football game over the weekend, and I
can't remember it was Saturday. Who was it that was
trying to get out of his stands? Dude? It was
a college game? And was it or was it possibly
the Thursday night football game? Had to be college game overside,

(20:32):
I can't even remember. Did I'm telling you the left tackle.
There's a couple of times the right end his burst.
He got in the backfield so quick. The left tackles
like poor k couldn't even tackle it. He was like,
it's unblockable. I can't remember if it was an early game.
I don't think it was, but I can tell you
this on Saturday and I get it. So you try

(20:54):
to cheat that step, that's cheat step, and then they
dip underneath and your off balance and they hand me.
I'll take my chance, but you at least got to
give us a chance postsnap by getting off on time
at the right time. Pre snap. Yeah enough, you know
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Paid advertisement for the Sewn Salisbury show continued. Jordan Alvarez
sprained knee hmm. I wonder how long he's gonna miss.
So basically, if they put him on the IOL, he
wouldn't be eligible to play in the wild Card. Yep,

(23:28):
So they're going to keep him out. I'm assuming as
long as possible, at least for this series. Hope he
can play against Cleveland.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
I don't know, Sean, I've had I had a MCL
injury my junior year of college that kept me out
six weeks. Again, I was an MCL sprain. Well, isn't
his a knee sprain of some spring?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah? I don't know what the swelling. I have no Listen,
I we can sit here and speculate all I have
no idea what is And I can't even think about.
I mean, what the level of severity is of it,
because listen, we've heard guys that were out of day

(24:06):
have gotten the same. He's gonna be okay as a
guy who's out seventy five days. Yeah, we've heard this. Oh,
it should be should be back pretty quick. It's not
serious and it's going to be just take a little
rest and we'll hopefully be back quick. And that's been
seventy five games, and then we've had some you know
a while two days out, Oh, how long is it
going to be? In Two days later he's in the lineup. Yeah.

(24:29):
I when it comes to teams and not here specific,
it's in every city. When it comes to teams, I rarely,
I rarely pay attention to first time around. I don't
mean first time around. They said, I'm talking about first
time around, like in the first few days. Yeah, because swelling, imaging,
all that some what is something? All the time we
went through with Kyle Tucker, it's a it's a deep bruise,

(24:51):
deep bruse, deep bruise, deep bruise, deep bruise, deep bruise,
deep bruce. Seventy four games later, it's a fracture. Right,
We went in on the backside and looked at it different. Okay,
so I'm optimistic that it's not severe. But have been
a guy who's been through four knee surgeries and a
knee replacement and went through this as a player, I

(25:11):
get and not every Listen, Jordn may be different than
somebody else. He may be Superman come back. I've seen
guys with a slightly torn meniscus play a week later
in a football game. Ten days later, You'll play a
game on Thursday. The next thing, you know, in two
weeks they're out there running around and just built different.
So I don't know how severe it is and are
they protecting is that? I mean? I guess, well, we'll

(25:36):
find out whenever he's in the lineup. And that's about
the only answer you're really when data comes on tomorrow,
ask him do you expect him and in doing the
things he's supposed to do and protecting, do you really
expect him to say, oh, yeah, he'll be back in
a day or two day to day thing. I believe
he's sore. We'll see how it goes and get him

(25:57):
some rest, but it doesn't seem to be any damage
and then we'll go from there. But is that damage
a two week thing, three week thing, two day thing.
I don't know, And uh, we're rarely I mean put
it this way. We've been far more right on injuries
this year when you say it's going to take longer
than you think, and they've those those if it's been
pretty spot on. They can't survive in the playoffs without

(26:17):
him in the lineup. Well, not the way they're the
inconsistency of their driving in runs and hitting with runners
in scoring position throughout the year, and you can't two games.
You lose one, you already start to grip. You lose
the first one, you're now you're in a press situation,
and then you're asking Hunter Brown and start two to
be at his very very best, which he's been. But
it's a young guy who hasn't been in these situations

(26:38):
very often. Right, if ever, you happen to win a
playoff game, has he started a playoff game as a pitcher.
He has not, So there you go, So and Fromer
could pitch like a gym. The problem is soaking the
guy he's gonna face. Yeah, if it's Schoble, right, whoever else?
And maybe the first one to four runs wins in

(26:59):
that series. I mean, you know, that's who you get
at the top of these rotation. And in a short series,
it's a bitch to go down.

Speaker 5 (27:06):
Oh one, talk about runners in the scoring position? Oh
for four? Last night runners score position? The Seattle Mariners
six for sixteen with the runners in the scoring position and.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
What was the score? Six to one to one? That
my biggest concern, and I would have never said this
when the Seaton started, is their inability to string together
consistency at the plate. I would have never imagine. Yeah,
five injuries. Oh, their strength is still the pitching staff.
You'd have laughed at me if I'd have said that,
and we'd laughed anybody who suggested it. Well, it's not

(27:35):
a matter of suggestion, quite frankly, it's a full blown fact.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
Yeah, Ley left five minut on base last night. The
Mariners left nine on again. Runners score position for the
Mariners six for sixteen, astros for four, Hayward, Singleton, Carroteeny
Pina all had opportunities, could not come through.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Yet when that lineups going good, uh huh. Pitching staffs
don't have a chance so deep and they are frigging relentless,
and the pressure they put on you to have to
stay and you're going good for five innings and all
of a sudden the six they give up, you give
up five runts. That's how capable they are. It's just
been the inconsistency of it has probably bothered us more

(28:16):
than anything. And to say that, the to say that
the pitcher is still the strength, pitching is still the
strength here after all these injuries, is a tribute to
the pitching staff and the pitching and that those who
are coaching it and teaching it, because they've done a
hell of a job.

Speaker 5 (28:29):
Sure, here's Joe spot A with a quick update on
your Don Alvarez.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
He will not be available for this series, all right, Okay,
if he's not available for this series and they're unequivocally
saying that, yeah, I mean it wasn't well, we'll see
if we get him at the tailor. He is not
available for this series, right, What does that tell you

(28:57):
that it's not just that, well, it may be a sprain.
It's not just oh, take a day or two and
we'll get to I mean they have It's not we're
going to reevaluate after the first game. See how he
does in batting praice he and not playing in this sea,
and and and not that that's okay, but you go
win it, and then then you can take it a
little bit deeper breath and hope. Now, if they come

(29:17):
out at the end of the city, say well, probably
won't see him. Let's say they haven't closed. Let's say
see how it sweeps. And then you go to Cleveland.
It's that Cleveland, isn't it on the road, Yeah, you go,
you go to Cleveland and you still haven't done yet,
and now he's out in the lineup, you getting a
little more concerned. Yes, absolutely, okay, yeah, you oh you
want listen, if you if you really, here's the deal.

(29:38):
If you want a division title and we'll worry about
Jordan when we get him, take care of your business tonight.
If you want to know how the injury is, and
you want to tempt yourself a little bit and toy
with your mind, get swept by the Mariners, and then
take care of Cleveland. And if Jordon is or isn't
life that you won't mad. There's where you get your
answer how severe it is. If you still have it

(30:01):
clenching and Jordon isn't playing in Cleveland, If somehow the
Mariners do the yank one out of their backside black
the Astros did last year to win five or six
in the last six games, If they are able to
pull this off and force us to go to this team,
to go to Cleveland and Jordin's not playing, you won't
need a press conference. You'll get all the information you

(30:22):
need right off the bat about that it's a little
more of a sprain than you think. Okay, so that's it.
So if you want answers quick lose to in a
row for fans, Yeah, be okay with it if you
want the division settled, and we'll say, well, hopefully we'll
get the answers for the that they now they get
the playoff series to worry about. You don't need to
play them in Cleveland, and why risk it on the

(30:45):
base pass or anything? And then okay, good, that's where
your ANSWER's gonna come. And you want the answer and
you want the division, but you ain't gonna get both
answers by the time. You just know he's not playing
this series, which is still going to leave you in
purgatory not knowing which way to go. Yeah, from the
history of the injury report, yeah, you lose, Uh, you
get swept. Yeah's a lot of concern for me. And

(31:08):
if he's not in the lineup in Cleveland and you
got swept vers Seattle, guess what, it's a little more.
It's it's it's it's still sore. And then and then
and then now, because it's a short series, the next
time you're like, who do we do? Yeah, if he
can't play, do you say, well, let's get a different
body in there and set him out the series. You

(31:28):
know where you where you get? Where were you? Another?
Bats vats at least available? Next two days are important.
They sure are huge, Yeah, really really big.

Speaker 5 (31:37):
Here's Joe Spotta with one final little update on your
on Aurez.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
You know what, I hope so, I hope so.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
But we gotta you know, we gotta get this some
some time here and see how he feels the next
couple of days. So that's Joe spot to ask.

Speaker 1 (31:51):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (31:51):
He was asked if he felt optimistic about being able
to have him in the lineup this series, but obviously.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Not from optimistic to not playing in the direct Like
I said, these next two days are hugely important for
a lot of different reasons. Yeah, you know, they just
got to take it one pitch at a time tonight.
You know, I've always wondered how you can take it.

Speaker 5 (32:12):
Two pitches at a time, though, two pitches or two
bitch I mean you could take what did you say,
take it?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
I mean, yeah, probably easier to take two bitches at
a time than it is two pitches.

Speaker 5 (32:24):
Probably, I mean yeah, I don't think you can throw
two pitches at once unless you're ambidextrous correct or if
you have Yeah, you can throw. Yeah you can do that. Yeah,
so you can't.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
So when they say take it one pitch at a time,
there's no other way to do it. No, there's really not.
Yeah it's not.

Speaker 5 (32:40):
Yeah, So why why do we say that? I mean,
you say it all the time like it's that's your
go to saying.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I'm sure it is. It is, yeah, because I've said
that like three times a month if hey take it
one matter of fact, I can't remember the last time
I said it. Being serious about mocking somebody for saying it. Okay, yeah,
you got to take it one pitch at a time. No,
did you say take it to would you say I
pitches or what was the other one?

Speaker 7 (33:05):
No?

Speaker 5 (33:05):
I said I said two pitches. That I just I
for some reason, I thought I hear I heard you
say two bitches at a time. But it must be
my earpiece. Yeah, I think that.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
Now you can take it two inches at a time
for sure. Yeah, it's a choice tripley style. Yeah, why
deny By the way, make no mistake, no mistake. So
you said he takes it to two bits nottches at
the time? You could you could? Yeah, man, that's tough.

(33:39):
You don't want to try to take the time.

Speaker 5 (33:42):
Just saying, man, sometimes you got to show up and
show out. You know, you're full of them today. I am,
damn right. What's say Tuesday? Yeah, yeah, it's another day
above dirt. So yeah, damn right, them full of them
are right on the right side of dirt, on the
right side.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
You were going to get that shaken, he says it
every day. Figure it out, six feet to the right
side of the dirt. You have three different says in
one right, I like, I like your style. Yeah, man,
but taking two bitches at once, as you said, yeah, exactly,
two pitches at once is hard to do. Might even

(34:17):
be harder though in your style, which you were just saying,
that's hard to two business Yeah, two businesses at once.
I don't know, man to do.

Speaker 5 (34:26):
I feel like, you know, so I wear glasses, so
if I'm looking at two pitches at a time, yeah,
or two bitches.

Speaker 2 (34:33):
Either way, you know, like you might see four of them.
It might get you might see four of them. That
double vision. Yeah are you Did you ever anybody ever
call you four eyes? Those days? I got four eyes.

Speaker 5 (34:45):
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I got called Harry Potter because I had a bowl
cut back in the day.

Speaker 2 (34:50):
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hair to put a bowl on my head and my
mom would cut my hair. Did you get a haircut?
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Speaker 3 (36:48):
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Speaker 2 (36:49):
This is the Sean Salisbury Show, get back at it.
It would be the Yankees.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
This is in the al Yankees number one, see Cleveland,
number two, Stros three Orioles four, Kansas City five Tigers
six Astros would play the Tigers in a wild card,
Kansas City and Baltimore in a wildcard Astros and Tigers.
That winner would get the Cleveland Guardians, Kansas City and
Baltimore that would get the Yankees.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Okay, who uh what would have to happen over these
next handful of games for that to change?

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Uh?

Speaker 5 (37:21):
So let's take a look at the standings in the
wild Card and across the American League.

Speaker 2 (37:30):
So this happens, the Astros get somebody other than Detroit.
What does that look like?

Speaker 5 (37:36):
So that would mean the Okay, let me go to
the wild Card here? All right, here we go. So
the Twins are one game back. So the Twins have
to God, Twins are terrible. They're two and eight in
their last three and seven. In the last ten, Minnesota,
they would have to they play the Marlins, so they've

(37:56):
got to win and the Tigers have to lose obviously,
and that would change it. Then Also, yeah, so looking ahead,
you've got the Twins taking on Miami and Baltimore, so
that would shift a couple things. But then you look
at the Tigers and I want to say, they've got
Kansas City. Let me double check that, because the Kansas

(38:18):
City is in the two spot and the Tigers are
actually tied, so two three, and then it goes to
the head to head tiebreaker. So the Tigers have a
lot to play for. Yes, so they've got the Rays
and then the White Sox.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
Oh gosh, so.

Speaker 5 (38:34):
They've got the easier schedule, I would say, Kansas City.
Looking ahead, they've got the Nationals and the Braves, so
probably this is crazy Braves money might might not even
make the playoffs. It's crazy, it's wild to me. So
they're prepared for Detroit basically pretty much.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Yeah. Yeah, so some things obviously can shift.

Speaker 8 (39:00):
Uh, but.

Speaker 2 (39:03):
First foremost, they got to take care of their own business,
correct and so there's up and deal with the rest later.
You're gonna face the good ones no matter what you know,
if you're facing somebody other than Detroit, now the whole
key is that you'd like to face somebody other than,
you know, a team that's played such good basically like
somebody who's reeling a little bit and struggling to get
in and doesn't have you know, while everybody has good

(39:24):
frontline starts to say, okay, let men hand pick which
one In a longer series, it matters to the depth
of that pitching staff, right somebody can roll out one
or two? Can you roll out four? And that's an
astro's advantage because right now they can. No, yeah, they can.

Speaker 5 (39:39):
So looking at the NL side, the Phillies locked up
the two seed or I'm sorry, we'll most likely lock
up the two seed, the Dodgers at the one seed,
and then it's going to be fluid as well. You've
got the Brewers, the Diamondbacks would play in a wildcard,
and then look at the Mets. Mets right there to
play in a wild card against the Padres whenever that
series would get the.

Speaker 2 (39:59):
Dodgers hell of a good run in the National League. Man, yeah,
it's gonna be good. I look forward to the postseason I.

Speaker 5 (40:06):
Just think with the pitching that the Phillies have, they're
the favorite across all of baseball.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
Oh sure, I mean they're gonna run the Dodgers and
Phillies or that's gonna be if it gets to that point.
It's a hell of a a hell of a matchup right, Yeah,
great pitching, power, hitting attitude, some arrogance, some swagger, performance.
I mean, got you got your fifth best player can

(40:33):
be the hero of the series. That's how that's how
deep both of those teams are as well at the plate.
So should be fun and we both we know what
they can run out there at the top of a
pitching staff. You want to.

Speaker 5 (40:43):
I don't know if this is a take hot take,
I don't know what it is, but this is my
take on the n L side if if it holds
to where it is right now, the Dodgers and Mets
were playing the Wildcard Series, the Dodgers are gonna win.
O excuse me, The Padres are gonna win that series,
and they would play the Dodgers in the Alds. Padres
beat the Dodgers, and the will not shock me one bit.
That series would be insane and it's a five gamer

(41:04):
Dodgers are banged up pitching wise.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Fans will lose their minds. What's the first year the
wild card is a there's a three gamer, then it
goes five gamer, and then they go in the divisional
Then the CS and the World Series are both seven games.
But you still people have to understand that there's that
five gamer, that's that's jumped, that's fit in between the
three and the seven gamer. Yeah, so you still have

(41:27):
a medium length series, I guess is what it is for.
But don't get you know, I don't know. Do you
like three gamer? Would you rather have five? Five, seven
to seven? I'd rather have seven all the way around? Seven? Mean,
I know it's not possible, but just too much. It
takes too way too long, right, That's that's the reason.
But for me too, it's like, let's let's do it
the right way. You'll find it. The best team wins

(41:48):
the seven normally, and they usually win a seven game series.
Great team. Sometimes you steal one to three and that
then some people say, well then you better be ready
in three. I get it, but I've never been a
big fan of short series. No, I mean you said it.

Speaker 5 (41:58):
If you lose game one of a three game series,
you're pressing your ass off alls.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
It takes is two bad days at the plate and
two good days pitching by the other staff. And when
you're playing in the playoffs, most teams have two good
frontline starters, and if you're not hitting in those two games,
you're eliminated. And you're a World Series caliber team. And
you just got caught like you would in any series,
playing bad or average baseball at the plate for two
straight games or pitching bad for two straight games.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Yeah, because you can. You can recover from that in
a seven gamer.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Seen plenty of teams recover from O two. Can't do that.
A three game you're done. You're on your way home.
One game equals you're down. When you lose one game,
you're down three in a long series, I don't like it.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
No, I don't like the three game round, like the
five game five more.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
But I've I've always been let's go seven. But the
problem is they would end like you'd be Christmas shopping
and getting coffee and it'd be playing with the You're
like NFL playoffs are four days, four weeks away, and
you're still playing baseball.

Speaker 5 (42:56):
And that day, that prestigious NBA in season tournament. Yeah,
the defending Laker defending champs or your Lakers.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
Can't wait for that one, right and raise the banner? Right?
What's crazy though? In truth? And we got to go
to break is the great thing? Good teams want seven
game series. Yeah. The teams that aren't is good want
to steal a three gamer if they do so. Good
teams like, let's play seven is over. But yeah tigers, No,
the Tigers like, let's play a three game. You're damn right.
Let they're good, but they want to get because they

(43:23):
know that if you catch them, then in a long
when they're like, okay, now we can settle in, but
let's get rid of one of these good teams quick.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
Yeah, exactly. It's the way it works, all right. Do
we like two games on Monday night? Football will discuss the.

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Speaker 3 (43:52):
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Speaker 2 (44:02):
Okay, let's do this.

Speaker 4 (44:03):
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Speaker 5 (44:17):
It's gonna be out this series, hoping to get him
back for the series against the Guardians Astros gott to
lock up that al West Tide we got fromber on
the Mountain tonight.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
I'm laughing. Have you ever heard anybody pronounce it? Oh man,
he's got a knee sprang? You've heard people say that, right, sprang? Yeah,
my buddy, Oh yeah, he sprang his knee. Wait what yeah,
they call it. It's like people who call Halloween or
Valentine's Day Valentine's Day. You know, you'll I've heard that
on the literally heard that on the radio. They say
Valentine's Valentine's Yeah, Valentine, Yeah, yeah, but there's Valentine's. But

(44:52):
I've heard oh man, what he sprained his Yeah, he
sprang it. He sprained it. He've got a knee spring.
Huh what That's why I was laughing. When you say
sprayed like spring, you say, some of your buddies do
fad buddies of winding pass with real springs, a spring sprang?
Just hey, manny, he sprang his knee. City buddies. Yeah, well,

(45:14):
all my buddies are just not Mexican, Okay, It's not
all Hispanic Okay, you about that one. I mean it
is on Tuesday. Oh, he's talking to you now, he's
talking to you. I was talking to yes, because you
made an assumption of like right, when I say my friend,

(45:35):
you wrong. I mean I did go to USC, you know, black, white, Hispanic. Yeah,
I mean the diversity pool at US. He is about
as diversity gets anywhere in the country. And you got
me what I say, one of my friends you want
to make to go Oh, you'd be like your ninety
percent Hispanic community. You're growing up. It's just the all
only friends I got hey sounds. Hey man, he sprang
his knee. Yeah, I got a knee spring. Yeah, that's

(45:59):
what you said.

Speaker 9 (46:01):
That.

Speaker 2 (46:01):
You know it wasn't my one white friend ort and
Mike Marshall probably has probably he's sprang his d before too.

Speaker 5 (46:12):
I'm sure Sacks probably probably got two white friends, and
then your then your local gringoes here, Sam Sambo probably
got some his Bannic in him.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Does. Samuel can't even spell sprang.

Speaker 5 (46:28):
He can't spell golf though, Yeah with two f's, Yeah,
golf g o F F seven one three two two
five seven. Hey man, he's springing his knee. Homes Man,
he's gonna be out for like six weeks.

Speaker 2 (46:46):
Man, let's hope not homes. We got another series to win, Man,
we gotta go. We gotta win some You know, my
why are you on my sco people? Dude, I'm putting
respect on you? Put your Yeah, you put respect. You
see you get what you care to call respect? Tripley
called yeah exactly yet yeah triple like I only got

(47:08):
the only friends I got her. Brian, welcome in.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
All right, good morning guys.

Speaker 10 (47:19):
I just wanted to get your take on are we
gonna see a postseason Astro team that wins on the
road or are we gonna see a team that wins
at home? I just tuned in a little bit last
night and kind of saw it all come apart.

Speaker 11 (47:38):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (47:39):
And you know, if history repeats itself, they don't like
the home ball park when the pressure is on against
the Rangers, against the fill.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
In the blank Nationals.

Speaker 10 (47:51):
Uh, who else the Braves if I'm not mistaken, just
in the just in recent history. So I just wanted
to get what's your take on what team you think
we might end up with the team that wins on
the road or the team that wins on the headt home.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Thank you, Brian.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
I think for this season, I feel like that playing
at home thing kind of went out the window. Playing
on the road, I think the Astros are always a
better road team. But as far as like the notion
of they can't win at home during the playoffs, I
think for me kind of went out the window.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
You know, it'll bury that thought though. Even if they
lose these next two and then have to go on
the road and win, people, even just in a short
sample size of that, the thought process will be, Man,
why aren't they win at home? Yet? Overall they've played
some pretty good I don't even know what their splits are.
Oh let's see, but it feels different than it did

(48:49):
last year. For sure when the Convent, at least twice
a week when we talk on this show, people would
call in say what in the hell is wrong with
this team at home? And it didn't matter who they
played good or bad. I think they're well equipped to
do both. But the next two days are going to
tell people, oh my gosh, we can't close it out
at home. We got to go on the road to Cleveland.

(49:10):
I don't think that they're going to be a team
that's afraid to play at home this year.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
They are forty five and thirty four at home this year,
which I'll take eighty five and seventy two overall.

Speaker 2 (49:20):
So you'll you'll take it. So that's a I think
it's a hell of a question. So see, they had
a question.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
They got let's see two of Seattle three with so
they got five games left. They're not even going to
eclipse ninety wins. I don't think five games left.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
Let's they go five and zero for the rest of
the season. We had one of our callers a couple
weeks I say, if they get to eight they even
get not going to get to ninety eighty eight, eighty
nine games and spot on, that's about where they're going
to live. Damn. It's crazy. But once you're in the tournament,
that's all you need, all matters. And if they have
to win on the road to go do their thing,
that's okay too. But I'm not as concerned about their
ability to win at home as I was last year.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
They just couldn't do it. No, I couldn't. It was
atrocious last year.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
And pitching fit is that that's a that the hitting, pitching,
good pitching will take care of that on a regular basis.

Speaker 5 (50:04):
And I think, I think when it comes to especially
playing at home, like during the playoffs, and for the
pitching staff is concerned, just throw strikes.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
I'll tell you what, man, you're analysis? What have you said?
You've had? Won't take a one pitch at the time? Huh?

Speaker 5 (50:19):
Shut show up and show did you give one hundred
and ten percent?

Speaker 2 (50:22):
Have not yet yet? O'clock? What was this one? Just
throw strikes, pretty or if they foul it off, just squirt.
Just straighten it out?

Speaker 5 (50:31):
Yeah, straightened out, Billy? Yeah, if you foiled off, yeah,
hit a foul ball?

Speaker 2 (50:35):
Whose they meant to hit a foul ball? Correct? So
straighten it out, because if he could, he wouldn't do it.
He's the only straightened it out when the parents tell
him to straighten it out. I might get that in
the nine o'clock hour two. Straight it out? Billy? Yes?
Why is it always Billy? You refer to Johnny little Johnny?
It could be, It cannot be, Hey, Bill, go get
it's gonna be the kid like you got to add
the n y ending like Billy Billy y n y

(50:57):
Johnny b y Bobby.

Speaker 5 (51:00):
Body Yeah, yeah, yeah, gotta Robbie. Yeah, yeah, I have
basic white guy names pretty much. That's yeah, pretty much.

Speaker 1 (51:07):
You know.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
I mean we can say if you want, if you
want to put respect on you know, then Tuesday be like, uh, straightened.

Speaker 2 (51:13):
Out Hector or Ricardo Ricardo.

Speaker 5 (51:17):
Or Manuel yes that too, yeah, or Pepe Pepe Benjamin Pepe.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
Yeah. I haven't seen many pepees, have you? You pee? Yeah? Interesting?

Speaker 5 (51:30):
Yeah, I don't know, it's kind of as good. Maybe
we should do some research on that. Yeah, but just
straightened out, yeah, exactly. He listen, do what throw strikes?
Just throw strikes and tell you that analysis. Get you
on national TV? Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying these days,
get you on national TV. That's all you got to
say is oh what a deep dive? Yeah, unbelievable. Yeah,

(51:52):
especially on ESPN.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Yeah. Oh yeah, just take away cover two. That's it.
Eliminate two high safeties. Yeah, get rid of them, get
rid of them.

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Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety All right.

Speaker 4 (53:07):
Sean, what are you hearing out there now?

Speaker 6 (53:10):
The Salisbury stakeout Salisbury takeout on the.

Speaker 2 (53:15):
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Speaker 5 (53:20):
Here on the Sean Salisbury Show, Sean Brown and Tripoli
Astros and Mariners game to the series tonight, seven to ten,
the first pitch six o'clock on Deck Show right here
on seven out of your home forrest Ros Baseball. The
Phillies win the NL East, Bills beat the Jags, Commanders
beat the Bengals in Monday Night Football. Or we ask
you before Ashaw on the steak out question stuck to
Holly Holly, good.

Speaker 2 (53:41):
Morning, Good morning guys.

Speaker 12 (53:43):
How are you hope you're feeling better?

Speaker 2 (53:45):
Sean, thank you very much, getting there.

Speaker 12 (53:48):
Getting there, I'll hear you. I'm more concerned with more
than the futured offense that we've been saying. I'm really
concerned about this future bullpen we have. I mean, why
are we putting in Feron with a one to lead
in the seventh inning. Ferguson has not proven to me
that he's he's trash. I mean every time he goes
out there and gives it up, or all of a

(54:10):
sudden doesn't have any locations. Martinez has all of a
sudden forgot how to pitch. I mean, what's going to
happen next week? Whenever we're in the situation and Presley
ners and a hater and a bray you're unavailable. Is
there anybody in Sugar Lang which can bring up I mean, hey,
what's Montero.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
Has been up to?

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Not sure what Montaro has been up to.

Speaker 12 (54:33):
I just don't know how we're gonna survive with this bullpen.

Speaker 13 (54:36):
That's that's all.

Speaker 12 (54:36):
That's I just want to.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
See your thoughts. Thank you, Holly. Uh.

Speaker 5 (54:40):
Looking at Caleb Ferguson specifically in the month of September,
he has not been very good, almost a sixty ra.

Speaker 2 (54:47):
Do you think it's a case of they just allowing
him to eat some innings knowing that they want to
be fresh for the playoffs and that they can survive
it even I mean, yet, you're not clinched yet, so
I can't take this for granted. Right, You've got to
go close this out and didn't work on rest? Not
work on rest before you close it out? Does that
make sense? Yeah? I think she makes all He makes

(55:09):
a really good point. You, I don't know, put it
this way. They should be well rested, right, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (55:18):
Brian King also came in last night. His appearances in
September one, two, three, four, five, he's got almost a
four and a half RA. In August he was fantastic
point ninety six at e R.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Yeah, we've we kind of want to say, taken it
for granted, but we've kind of skipped over not a
lot of bullpen talk lately, have we.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
No.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Yeah, it's been starting pitching and hitting and injuries, and
we've you kind of you kind of get kind of
caught up in Oh, it's a brave you. It's Pressley,
even though they've had struggles at times this year, it's Hater,
They're gonna be fine. Well, the last time you saw Hater,
you saw what happened. Right. Yeah, And he's had a
hell of a season when it comes to saves, but
there's been he's had some blown ones along the way

(56:01):
that have been like when they get blown, have you
ever noticed they get really blowed? Have you ever noticed?
But he's had a good season and I think we
trust that as veterans in the playoffs, they'll take care
of it. But what and she makes a great point,
what if in a longer series or Game two, after
you're down one and you've used the guys in game one,
then do you trust? Do you trust the bullpen passed

(56:24):
the four names she put on there, and at times
they've had their struggles too. Correct. Yeah, I think Hector
NAIs was a really smart pick up. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:31):
I like Hector Naires. I like Hector Nerris de pitch
in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (56:37):
And not just that he's not just a warm body.
He can pitch. So I think she makes a good play.
Something to keep an eye on that. Because of the
hitting and you know, at times inconsistency and all these injuries,
I think we we do we forget to Oh yes,
let's make sure that our bullpen doesn't surrender an opportunity.
Because when Hunter Brown went out, he'd given up how

(56:58):
many runs again last night? And one exactly? Yeah, one,
the game was still the game was still in position
to win. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
When you look at some of the guys that are
going to have to throw in the bullpen, I mean
obviously you can well Renel Blanco and Wild Carter probably
pitch out of the bullpen.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Spencer Raghetti as well, that's where that extra duct is
going to come from. And to answer high, that's probably
what you're gonna have olly when maybe not in the
regular season here they'll finish it up like this, but
you will have a couple extra arms, and it may
be Verlander as well. You'll have two or three extra
arms that won't start, but can give you quality innings

(57:40):
and length if necessary.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
All right, it's for this point though, by her for
the stakeout question. Do you like two games on Monday
night football?

Speaker 2 (57:52):
Well, I guess if you have more than one TV
you like them. Because I kind of go back and
forth on this. If it's a game. Put it this way,
if the Texans were playing on a Monday night, you
wouldn't even watch the other game. You're focused. Well, you
know what I'm saying, you're focused. I'm talking about us here.
Two games that you know didn't weren't teams that you

(58:14):
know in the division or teams that you you know
that Texans fans are rooting for. I guess you can
never have enough football. But if you like to focus
in on one and like just dial in and then
tape the other, that's probably what I mean. It depending
on the game. But I don't mind too money in
football games. I just don't like them on at the
same time because because you're you got to you're toggling

(58:36):
back and forth. Now, with two TVs, you can keep
them on, but if you really want to focus and watch,
if you're doing it just for entertainment, keep them on.
Somebody may like the other game more, but if you're
if you're looking to a deep dive into why things
are happening, it's it's easier just to focus on the
one game. But I think many are going to tell you, hey,
the more of the merrier. I just for me, Monday
night football has always been reserved for one game. That's

(58:58):
kind of way I like it. It's just I do.
I prefer one game. That's the tradition. But you know,
if they can put more on and get more ratings
and TV money, that's what they're gonna do. Like I said,
do you get two TVs, you can watch them both.
It's not that big a deal. But I prefer I
like one game on so I can stay focused on

(59:19):
just that one. But then if the other game is
a blow and it sucks, you'd like the other one
to go to, right, I guess. So I think it
serves both purposes. But I'm a one guy normally. Yeah,
I don't like it. I don't like especially at the
same time. That's the worst. That's the worst part. If
you want to go to one on the West Coast
or you know, a different start, I get it, but
I prefer just the one game. Yeah, so I can

(59:40):
so I can dial in. Yeah, same with me. I
don't like it. I don't think. I think you miss stuff.
Even with two on the TV, you still miss stuff.
And there's a sense of focus that doesn't It's like
when you're watching the Texans and the Noon and the Vikings.
I got three other games on my outdoor TVs, but well,
I'm what I'm kind of I'm watching them, but the
sound is for this game, and you're watching this focus.
You don't want to miss a play those You may miss

(01:00:02):
a series, right, So it's just harder to focus. And
if you're just fan, don't care, that's fine. But if
you're trying to get a deep dive into why things
are happening, one game so much easier. Yeah, I just
I didn't enjoy it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Scrolling back or going back and forth, even if I
had one up on one TV and one up on
my laptops. Just a pain in the ass to try
to pay attention to both takes the takes the uh
enjoyment out of it for me, especially because I like
hearing Joe Buck and Troy Aigman. But I also want
to hear what the other broadcast crew dan Orlowski and.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
Uh was it Kevin? Not Kevin? Oh my god, Chris
Vowaller wasn't he on last night? I think I didn't
listen to the sound of the other game. Pretty sure
it was and Akmin and Buck. I did not listen
to sound the other game. It was Dan. I can't
remember who who's the Yeah, play play guy? Play guy is.

Speaker 5 (01:00:45):
Yeah, yeah, I just I didn't enjoy it. Seven one, three,
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The Shawn Salisbury Show continued.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
Gina, good morning, Hi, good morning.

Speaker 11 (01:02:17):
So yeah, first of all, I want to circle around
to something. A couple of weeks ago, I had called
in and after I got off the phone, y'all mentioned
tone I think I that reference.

Speaker 2 (01:02:29):
I had no.

Speaker 11 (01:02:30):
Clue what y'all were talking about.

Speaker 13 (01:02:33):
I had to get my.

Speaker 5 (01:02:35):
Well have a little bit of connection issue triple see
if you can get her connection.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
I didn't hear what she said. Now we made a
tone Loake reference. Yeah, you call him tone Locke, tone lock.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
I went up to this girl, said, Hi, my name
is Sheena.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, see if we can much respect, okay,
let's se if we connection a little bit better Gena.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Yeah, we were at tone lone lock, So yeah, okay.

Speaker 11 (01:03:02):
I had no idea that reference was not something else
familiar with. My husband had to look up what y'all
were talking about, and then he's like, I'm not sure
if that's a compliment or an insult. No, I'm like,
I feel like it was a compliment.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
We only have not we only have compliments for you.
It's just when Sheena, because you're the only Sena that
calls the show. And I had to give Brian some
insight on tone Loak if he likes tone lock. And
so I went up to this girl and her name
was Sheena, and so it kind of fit. But you're
not that person in the song, that's for sure. So yes,

(01:03:37):
it was a compliment. Okay, yeah, you are not that
because you know Oscar Meyer has nothing to do with
you on this show. There you go, your husband's classic.
Tell him thanks, he looked it up for you. I
love it. Oh references, that's classic? All right, what else

(01:03:58):
you got this girl?

Speaker 11 (01:04:06):
So so yeah, I guess boy getting back to the bullpen.
So I actually spoke with a friend of mine over
the weekend about this. I'm gonna give him a shout
out because he covers MLB bend de Bow's and.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Talk about the bullpen.

Speaker 11 (01:04:19):
And something that we were talking about and he was
bringing up to was the difference between as spot as management.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
Of the bullpen.

Speaker 11 (01:04:27):
When we are down even by a run first, when
we do have a lead, even with just a you know,
our starter comes out. They kept us in the game,
but the offense you know, wasn't really you know, in
the game as well. So we come out with just
a one two run deficit. You know, that's a walk
in a home run to either tight or take the lead.
And the amount of times that our bullpen has just

(01:04:50):
you know, allowed the other team to just blow it open.
Just the efficacy of our bullpen when we when the
starter comes out and we just have you know, a
wan or two run deficit. As I don't have the
stats to back this up, but it seems like it's
paled in comparison to when they come out with just
a one or two run lead, and that spot is
really shying the way from using some of the high

(01:05:11):
leverage guys to keep us in those games. So I
think we saw it a little bit last night with Ferguson.
I know we've seen it a lot with Hunter Brown starts.
We've seen it some of Arraghetti starts where he comes
out and he only gives up one run and then
the bullpen.

Speaker 2 (01:05:25):
Just you know lets them blow it open.

Speaker 11 (01:05:28):
We saw it last week against the Angels when Caleb
Orke came in.

Speaker 2 (01:05:33):
So you know, I think that's.

Speaker 11 (01:05:35):
Kind of been a uh maybe a weak point of
a spot as management. So and that's a little concerning
because those games, you know, our starters have kept us
in the game, so and then you know, we just
lose it at the end.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
There. It's a great point by you, an Ben, who
does a great job as well, Sheena. And yes it's
a compliment, so thank you, thank you, San. I am right.
I don't have the numbers of stats to back that up,
but I get her feeling where it's close and the
high leverage guys to keep you in a close game
as opposed to skip the high leverage guys and not
stay in a close game. Then it blows open and

(01:06:10):
a game that was one run now becomes four or five,
and a solo home run or a two run job
does not put you back in the lead or close, right,
So I think that's a very valid point. Listen, the
spot has done a nice job. There's been some times,
like every manager who has their weaknesses, and he's got
more strengths as well, witnessed by the way he's managed

(01:06:30):
this year. But they do rear their head at times,
and they rear their head for every manager, and when
you're in a tight race like this and trying to
you know, we're looking for every single thing going into
the post because in truth, every little detail is going
to matter in the postseason. Oh yeah, they sure do
stuff we overlook at times and yah, no big deal.
And the one that that Sheen had just mentioned that

(01:06:51):
her and Ben were talking about, is can be one Okay,
it's two to one and you're down one run, use
a high leverage It's okay. Hell, it's okay to use
your closer in a sitce. You know, if you if
you can anticipate extra you know what I'm saying, Brian,
ye to keep it close so you have an opportunity.
And then then you just got to rely on all
people on deck, all hands on deck, to go win
a game. So I think it's it's those little things

(01:07:14):
that we overlook during the course of a buck sixty
two because it's just it's a long grind. But you
can when you sample size it and squeeze it down
into just a playoff series, they become so much more
hyper sensitive.

Speaker 5 (01:07:25):
Bullpen management, rotation management, all that's going to be so
key in the playoffs. We've seen it time in and
time out.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Followed many managers around on the good side and on
the bad side throughout their career. Look at it was dusty.
It was a dusty situation for a long time.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
And uh, the one that sticks out to me for
forever will be Kevin Cash for the raise.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
When was it glass? Now? No, it was like, like Snell,
absolutely dealing cost them, cost them a chance to be
a World Series champion.

Speaker 5 (01:07:56):
Yes, absolutely dealing, But he went straight with the analytics
and pulled him. Next thing, you know, the Dodgors win it.
That's one, that one that's six out there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
Yeah, that's when they want to want to burn the card. Yes,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:08:08):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Seven one, seven ninety Rosie,
good morning. Oh my gosh. Now, nope, we ain't doing that.
I tell you that right now, Triple I don't know
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Speaker 2 (01:08:20):
Not like the was you know what, there's outdoor car washes,
you know when you're doing your when you pull the
thing off, your sprain it yourself. Yeah, it felt like
they at an outdoor car wash. We'll get her when
we come.

Speaker 5 (01:08:29):
Back from seven forty in the morning. Uh yeah, we'll
continue this discussion. Uh right here, Okay, well yeah, that's
uh that we got to figure out that background noise, Tripley.
So we'll try to get her on the other side
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Speaker 4 (01:10:04):
This is the Sean Salisbury show.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
You mind me walking in Canada? Is that? What is that?
Canada Texas or Canada like Canada? I don't know. I
think Canada Canada. I don't know. Is there a Canada
Texas Canada? I didn't know it was a Canada Texas.
I'm gonna go with Canada Canada. Okay, let's try it out. Rosie.
Good morning.

Speaker 5 (01:10:26):
Are you in Canada as in the country or Canada Texas?

Speaker 13 (01:10:30):
Yes, I'm in Canada as in the country. I've been
a Houston Nastro Houston Rocket. He's Moither fan since nineteen
eighty two.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
Guys, so that's goes. So you're listening to us on
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Speaker 13 (01:10:42):
Yes, I do what province?

Speaker 2 (01:10:45):
What province are you in?

Speaker 13 (01:10:47):
I'm in Ontario?

Speaker 2 (01:10:49):
Nice?

Speaker 13 (01:10:49):
Uh yeah, near Toronto.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah, in Toronto. Yeah, I know all about it. Great
great city, great there, great town. We are bigger than
the town, but great city is Toronto. We love you listening, Rosie.
You really appreciate you calling in this one. What's on
your mind with these astros?

Speaker 13 (01:11:04):
So, first of all, I wanted to tell you that
the Spanish like a small name would be Jo. You
can say Juanito or Pepito. That's the equivalent to little Johnny.

Speaker 9 (01:11:17):
You were.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
You know what, You're part of this. You're part of
the Esco crew now, the mid Streets Esco my hometown. Yeah, yeah,
that's where we're going. Nobody got the little jokes. I
like it.

Speaker 13 (01:11:38):
Yeah, can you tell any any Latino? Oh do you
know any Pepito jokes? They'll be laughing at you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
Yeah. And I'm from the mead Streets Esco. I need
to take that back to my peeps. Here we go,
damn right, thank you? All right, Rosie talk. I want
to focus on this.

Speaker 13 (01:12:00):
Pizza.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Yeah you go.

Speaker 13 (01:12:01):
So my my thing is like I'm a girl, so
I'm not going bold, but holy crap, like a lot
of the why don't they play small ball? Like do
an in game adjustment? Like if you know you're not
hitting that picture, why not, like do try a bunch
here or there? And why is it that I know

(01:12:23):
that in the one of the Halos games, like Tucker
was walked and then Alex Bregman hits like the first pitch,
Like what is going Like why this guy is obviously
having an issue throwing the ball over, so just let
him think, you know, And I think that's the game
that was like ninety seven or something like that. Like

(01:12:43):
we struggled to put the small ball in play, like
if you know it's just a one run game, like
try the small bill. What's Alex intrond there? Like I
know they all go back to look at the path
like the iPad, but come on, like, let's play some
small ball sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
Make sure you stay in touch with us because and
bring us a popito joke too. At some point we
got to have you, and you make it. We love
having you call in and it's awesome to have you.
And hopefully you'll keep listening and we look forward to
talking more to you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 13 (01:13:16):
And go for walks every morning and that's how I
listen to you guys.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
Good well, keep on calling in. We'll Popito'll answer the phone.
I like it. There you go, Rosie, You're awesome. Thank you.
But she makes a great point though, And you know what,
it's not even just the bunt of small ball. And
Bregman's patience is his strength to his right, working the count,

(01:13:40):
making the guy throw strikes. I guess I never like
it unless it's a pitch that he can drive all
the time. I don't like Bregman being first ball hit her.
Does that make sense? I just thought my visual is
work it. If it's not right where you want it,
take it. I mean that that's especially if you're seeing
a guy struggle. Now, if you want to load up
on something, you you can pull and hit it into

(01:14:02):
the Crawford boxes. Have at it right. Yeah, And he's
such he's got such command of the plate now, I'll tov.
On the other hand, if it's around, he's hacking. And
that's what we used to coming off a walk and
then trying in small balls. Not just bunting. Makes a
good point, but moving a guy over. And what do
most pictures tell you, Brian, or when you're watching when
you're managing your kids, or when you watch a talk

(01:14:23):
to a picture of pictures I've interviewed over the years.
Just spend time talking to and you don't get some
the most it's not the one swing. It's not the
one knockout punch. It's not a knockout punch, but the
one that stagers you that somebody lands a lucky blow.

Speaker 1 (01:14:35):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
You throw a good pitch and they hit it to
right center and hit it out on a slider because
they stayed in on it right and drove it the
other way. It's that walk hit the ball the other way.
Move him to second, yep, and if you're fortunate, you
hit the right field. Guy goes to third. Sacrifice those
things that did, just the annoying stuff that make a
picture well work a little more because I can always

(01:14:58):
justify to myself as pitcher. When I throw a pitch
and let's say it's on the inner third and a
guy barrels it up at Homer. Let's say that was
a decent pitch. I pitched it where I want. He
just got me on that one. I can live with that.
But the constant, the grind of boom and then you
know the astros line. Oh, now they've only got one
out with a guy on third. This boom, next thing
you know, guy base hit or gets it to the

(01:15:20):
gap and now you're on second and then sacrifice fly
with you know, one out or less ye, and you
move the guy to third base next thing you know.
But that's those are the times of things. And that's
called the adapting and adjusting in the middle of a
game when maybe the power cog isn't there, it makes sense.
I actually it's a valid, valid point of patience by Bregman.

(01:15:41):
But also the ability when the long ball's not there,
or the pitcher struggling, or it's a one run game.
You don't need three runs and three runs to win,
but at least get it to the point where And
plus that's a lot more difficult for pitchers to grind
on when they're getting small balled to death. And I
don't just mean three bunths in a row like happened
to us. But the ability to grind on base hits

(01:16:03):
the other way and moving runners over is not a
bad thing. And it drives pictures nuts. Yeah, it does,
because you can justify it. It's like a body blow
compared to a punch to the face. You keep hitting
me in the gut, dude, I got no sometimes that
that'll make you surrender quicker or anything. It's the lucky
shot to the face where a guy says, you know what,
I need a rematch on that. That was bs. You're
not laying in that normally on small ball. That's that's

(01:16:25):
well thought out, you know, just constant, the the the
slow grind and the slow brew. Right, it gets in
where it just starts to fester and it bothers it.
Of course it does gets noises. Pitch even with high
doesn't matter what level it used to be. I wanted
I wanted to face the big Bobbers guy. I know
I can get him out. It's those guys that dude,

(01:16:45):
you fouled me off three times and any pitch and
then all of a sudden you get a little lazy
with one and miss base hit the right field like okay.
And then high school they were button the guy over
and now so those things. It was never worried about
overcoming a home run that a guy got lucky on
a or I missed. I just do a fastball right down,
then you know what, and he hit it, he hit
it out. But when they were when they're nibbling at it,

(01:17:06):
just like when you're nibbling at the plate and they're
nibbling at you. It's it's a it's annoying. Yeah, it's anslift.
It's the nap that won't go away. And Bregman's as
good as anybody when he's doing his thing with patients
and not hacking at a first pitch and popping it out.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
It's it's a. It's a leadoff guy hitting a double.
It's the next guy hitting the ground ball on the
right side to move him over there on the purpose right.
It's the next guy with a sackfly bingo bengo, bong go,
you gotta you gotta run scored.

Speaker 2 (01:17:28):
And then with two outs, guy hits a gapper because
you gave him extra out at the plate because they
small ball and got him over, and he hits a gap,
and then the guy on second and then another base
sit down in the right field. The guy scores, and
before you know, you've had one extra base hitt and
guess what, you're up two to one.

Speaker 5 (01:17:42):
Yeah, where it's even the uh, the two out walk
and then the guy behind.

Speaker 2 (01:17:46):
It patient seven pitch, eight pitch at bat, nine pitch
at bat walks, and then the pictures like how am
I getting this guy? And before you now you're back
to to to Tucker and Alvarez. And that's how it works.
And then and and like you say, you play small ball. Eventually,
the the the annoyance will find the pitcher, right it will.
It will find him, you know, and annoy the hell

(01:18:07):
out of it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:07):
I think another thing is like having productive outs you
mean at the plate, meaning a ground battle to the
right side, or moving a guy here, or a sackfly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:15):
With intention, productive outs with intention or.

Speaker 5 (01:18:18):
Even or even like a simple fact of in this
I think it's lost because it's at the big league level.
But like even even with one out and you got
a guy at second and you hit a ground battle
on the right side and maybe an out to get
two outs, but you at least move the guy because.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
The guy's going to get out at first unless it's
a hard hit ground ball and you you know the
guy's got you and you're late starting to third base.
But also the part of that too is the even
if you a ten pitch, nine pitch a battle we
found four or five balls off and even if you
still get out, Yeah, if you pop up or you
ground out, there's still there still has a collateral damage

(01:18:52):
on that. It just does, and he could probably put
more respect on that. It's like anything and the the
it's like in foot Oh you take a shot, it's
not there, and you throw it down the field and
it's incomplete. The corner is still thinking about, Oh, today's
gonna be one of those days. They're gonna take a shot.
Give me two extra yards a cushion. Now I can
do what I do. It works the same way in baseball,

(01:19:13):
just different. Yeah, it makes a good point, Rosie. It
was spot on about that small ball is okay. Everything
is now you got a slug or you can't win
most of the time, but in the process you've got
to find other ways to win. If you're not throwing
the ball well, and you can run Michigan to usc
they couldn't throw it out if if somebody they were
playing against air, but they ran the hell out of it,
So you shut one down. But what they do they

(01:19:34):
executed the perfection their run game, which small balled them
to death and body blew the body. That body blows,
but they body blew them to death, but the body
blows at s he took finally got to him in
the end, as well. Yeah, damn it, man sucks. It
just suck.

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Start an order of longest. Wait, Caroline, You're up first.

Speaker 14 (01:21:56):
So I loved that Rosie wanted to talk about small ball,
and that was the exact same thing I wanted to
talk about in the seventh inning. The pitcher last night
had seventy three pitches. Jeremy Pinya gets up two on
two outs, He's at ninety pitches at that point, and
he swings at the first pitch slider, check swings at
a second pitch slider. I just I want to see, like,

(01:22:17):
what can the Astros do for these reactionary hitters, How
can we change the mentality for them? I'm questioning our
hitting staff. What are you know, what are y'all's thoughts
on how that can change for the playoffs?

Speaker 2 (01:22:33):
Thank you, Caroline man Sean. I think that is a
hell of a point. It's it's a simple fact for
me of just plate discipline, just simple plate discipline. And
how easy is it to teach to some and difficult
to teach to others?

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:22:48):
And I and I know this is going to sound crazy,
the mechanics of the position, And maybe I'm wrong. I
don't like robotic players. I do like mechanical players. That
makes sense, Yeah, where they don't break down under duress.
And the more duress what happens he said two on
two out right, Yeah, the more you're you're swinging it,
and the more the more the human nature is, the

(01:23:11):
more duress it sweeps in that the moment overtakes you
more than to set the moment in and hey, you
know how when that guy says it was just another game,
and it was the seventh game of the World Series,
and that guy's able to lock in and actually treat
it like it's another game. Fairly rare, right, those guys, don't.
I mean the Brady's and Jordan's and birds and Jordon

(01:23:33):
seems to be a guy who cherishes those big moments,
Bryce Harper. We've seen these guys in the past, right
that just whenever the moments at its biggest, they seem
to be at their commas. I think Caroline makes a
phenomenal point, though, how do you now? I don't know
what the answer is. You know, we always say the
guy with the bat in his hand needs to learn
it more than the guy teaching him. That's got a badness,
But that is part of your Listen. You can't get

(01:23:55):
educated if you're not in class listening to teachers growing up, Right,
It's hard to be It's hard to learn something unless
you're pay attention to the person who's teaching it as
long as they're teaching it right, or you'll get caught
into learning the wrong thing. But the plate discipline and
you hit it plate mechanics of easier for us to say,
but I just apply it to Okay, for golf, how

(01:24:15):
often do you how often do you do something different
in your golf swing? Brian? For me, it's quite often.
How often does Scotty Scheffler do it different? Not very often?
And I'm not comparing you to Scheffler and golf. You
get My point? Is it? It may take one decision
by him. Guess what he does locks back in yep.
So the mental and emotional part of that, it's not

(01:24:37):
just a physical what's he swinging? There is a meant that.
There's the ability to resist a pitch that's close but
not your pitch. There's the especially on a first pitch,
struggling labor and you're thinking, okay, you gotta almost get
out in front us like that running back who sees
two holes, the second hole before the first one's done
being closed or open. Is you're saying, okay, two two balls,
two strikes. Unless it's a pitch I can drive. I'm
doing everything I can to get these bases loaded up

(01:24:59):
on this guy. If he he doesn't throw me the
pitch I want, yeah, And then back to back pitches
you swing at one and check swing at another. Now
you've put your net. Now you're on the defensive. Now
if the guy throws his pitch, you have a hard time.
Now you want to file it off and try to
stay alive and hopefully he misses. But there's a plate
discipline that goes with trusting your mechanics, not your robotics,
your mechanics to go with it. I'm with you. On

(01:25:19):
a golf course, I'll hit three swings in a row like.
I love that. Yeah. The ability to repeat what you're
doing all the time, whether it's throwing the ball, pitching
on the mound, swinging a baseball. Bet the ability, Okay,
I got out of my comfort zone. Er would I do?
It's okay to get out of your comfort zone. But
what I do best? I got out of it too quickly,
And what are the great ones do get back into it? Yeah,

(01:25:40):
it's not three pitches one pitch.

Speaker 5 (01:25:42):
The example that I'm going to use here is when
we were out the live pro am. Who do we
play with on the front nine? Camp Smith? Yes, we
were on a par five right by some water, and
him and his caddy said something to each other about
where he wanted to hit it and he wanted to
hit it close to the water, but obviously not in it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
He pulled it into the water.

Speaker 5 (01:26:00):
His caddy looked at him and he said one thing,
and it was about his thumb placement. Next thing, No
camsmith on the tea box drops it back off.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
Smokes it down the right center, so he has a
better shot.

Speaker 5 (01:26:10):
A little bit one week of moving his thumb like
a centimeter and hit it exactly where he wanted to,
right where he wanted to. So I think it goes
into hitting where in at bad adjustments in game adjustments
are huge, and it goes back into plate discipline.

Speaker 2 (01:26:25):
I know in my career the only reason I get
I'm sure in your career too. When I was at
my best, I didn't over the mechanics were more. The
mechanics stayed true regardless of the situation of the game,
regardless of the temperature. When when I when you're playing
the best, when I wasn't playing my best, Yeah, one

(01:26:46):
mistake caused me to want to make a mechanical adjustment
even though the mechanic And that's when you know when
it's a mechanical thing or a patients thing or sitting
in your relaxed whatever it is. But that mechanical adjustment
has always given me the confidence when your mechanics are sound,
like when we played golf, when my mechanics are right boom,

(01:27:07):
when I decided to lude for line right elbow, do
a you're snap hooking it, you're drawing it. I mean,
you're you're cutting it too far, you're getting through, and
then you're watching somebody else instead of doing what you do.
But mechanics, the basic mechanics will always sustain you.

Speaker 5 (01:27:20):
Right, And that's that's when the moment gets loud if
you will, that's what loud for some. That's when you
rely on your mechanics without halving trust your mechanics.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
And the key there that trust is without having to
think about it. Yes you know, okay, just get locked
into what you do. Dude, I'm I'll say it again.
And she makes such a great point about whether that's
a mental, emotional, a veteran thing, a young thing. We've
seen hey when he was a rookie, he dialed into
the at the end of the season and everything he
did was sound, and he wins MVP in the series

(01:27:52):
and in the ALCS and in the World series World series.
It's not just him, it's any of us. But for me,
it just rolls into my thought process of the mechanics
of and I forgot even the story I was going
to quickly share, but it'll come back to me. It's I.
I am a the best players I've ever seen. Oh,

(01:28:15):
back to Scheffler, like I told you the other day
and after it, when he was playing in the uh
to to win the the last championship of the where
he won twenty five million, you know, in in Atlanta. Yeah,
he's yeah, dude, he's he's He literally hit a bunker
shot like you like a like a thirty five handicap

(01:28:36):
and then he chips up, yeah, and he's twenty five
feet short and you're like, he's and he had six stroke.
He's like, dude's losing it. Us Mere mortals, don't get
back to the McCain. It would have been easy to
go to the next team. Now tell me when you
The worst thing on to me and golf is after
you've had a couple of bad hold up a couple
of bad shots to go to the next tea box
and it to be a long part three because you can't.

(01:29:00):
You ain't laying up on a par three as a
pro or anybody else, and it's that one. I got
to make small, solid contact, that square that club face
up right. If you miss a driver and stuff and
it's a par five, I can scramble and still make
par The dude goes two twenty five with a five
iron or whatever it was to five feet. Now, how
easy it would have been for him to overcompensate and
not get to the basement cans and think outside it

(01:29:22):
and attack and snap hook and then goes to hell
and hand basket. Well, that's why he's the best in
the world at what he does. So I think Carolyn
makes a great point to me, it's always go back
to the simple one O one one O one, basic
one o one and at least you'll have a chance.
I think sometimes we get a little We all do

(01:29:43):
jump out in front of it and at times when
you don't need to. We, like I always said, we
borrow trouble. Right, you borrow trouble and you don't need trouble.
Two ball, two men on two outs, and you're at
the plate, you're not any trouble on the first pitch. Yeah,
it's not a macro break. First pitch. That's exactly right,
still in the count I mean a lot of different
ways to go about the mechanics, I'm sure with you.

(01:30:04):
For me, when I see mechanics or guys lock in
under pressure or when they've made a mistake and turn
right back into mechanics, they seem to get right back
to doing the right thing first. Right, good free throw
shooter misses a free throw, he's a ninety ninety four
percent free throw shooter. You think he does the same
thing he did when he missed her, locked right back
into taking that deep breath and doing what he does normally.
They don't usually miss too in a row, right, No,

(01:30:24):
they don't.

Speaker 5 (01:30:25):
And and you know, like for some of the greatest
free throws or even three point shooters of all time,
it's it's a simple fact of you missed one hundred
percent of the shots that you don't take?

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Shoot or shoot dog? Ain't that right? Triple le?

Speaker 5 (01:30:39):
Why as a whoa, yes, guys down on that today?

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
Huh your motivating your motivational speeches, they're on fire have
been used by eight billion other people today. It's good.
What'd you say?

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
You missed one hundred percent of the shots that you
don't take shooters, shoot shooters.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Shoot dog. The dog's the kei ap in there? Yeah?
Or cut? Oh? Cut yeah. By the way, I got
you just saying great point by Carolyn, though it.

Speaker 5 (01:31:16):
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Speaker 5 (01:32:49):
One three, Oh my gosh that one three two and
two five seven ninety let'st's just do a little rapid
fire here.

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
Edward, good morning, Hey, wait to do Yeah, this is
a hunter.

Speaker 15 (01:33:01):
Brown picked good last night, but yeaddam made him work, man.
That's why when he got out the game, what happened?
That crummy bull pen just got burnt up again, got toasted,
you know, and and you talk about small ball. Lookal
Carol Roley did last night to Seattle. They thought he

(01:33:21):
was gonna hack away, and he dropped that perfect bunt
down third man. So it was nothing like y'all been
talking about other things. You got to do, missing the
big bopper out there, and you're missing Jordaan, but.

Speaker 9 (01:33:34):
You got to step up, man, This is this ain't
time to be playing around. It's time to end this thing.
And when that the division and these guys are playing
that and and they got the l two the effect,
winging at the first pitches and swinging at anything you got.
You got, you got to lock in, like you said,
it's time to get it done. And that's what that's

(01:33:55):
all I got to say. And I really appreciate you
till you guys a break.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Appreciate you. Edward. Listen, man, it's so right. Well, let
me ask you this real quick. I want to I
want to rapid fire, but just mull this one over.
Why are we so against small ball and people? When
you say small ball being automatically bunting, I don't mean that.
What Why are we? I mean we we fell in

(01:34:19):
love with it. If there's a way to win, why
is it that it always has to be for I
mean I'm talking about fans and media. We get if
you're playing small ball and winning, why is is it?
Because it doesn't just look as explosive and the yes slugging.
I mean if you run like got hitting doubles like
did Michigan win like I play? I do compare small
ball to running the football? Do you? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:34:42):
Because the body blows. Yeah, it's not as And I'm
just gonna use like optically, it's not as it's not
as fun. You want to see the You want to
see Joe Burrow throw for four hundred yards and two
of those be two fifty yard bombs to Jamar Chase
and get your viewing pleasure right.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
And we saw him have a good game. What happened?
They lost? So my point being is, and guess who
played Jayden Daniels was spectacular, unbelievable. That dude did not
look like a a rookie. No, he didn't know. He
is going to be a phenomenal football player. But I
think when you when you bring up why, why why
is it? Why is it bout? Why are we so

(01:35:17):
all of a sudden you just have you ever noticed
it just hit a wall and we switched. Yeah, it's
it's I'm talking about when when we hit it fifteen
years ago, we know it's the exact time we decide.
It almost feels like it just you know we're not
going to do that anymore. Analytics say, swing the bat,
hit a home run all the time. Yeah, when pictuers
tell you it bothers him more when you beat him
like that. I just if you're not hitting, slugging, what's

(01:35:38):
the next best alternative? Beat him anyway? You can't small
him to death, right, So I just I've always wondered,
why is it an ego thing? It just doesn't look
as pretty? Does it really come down to.

Speaker 5 (01:35:47):
That, Well, it doesn't look as pretty. And then you
got all And then also like the commissioners pushing for
home runs and home runs, screw.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
The commission And when it comes to me winning a game,
didn't you give a rats ask what he think?

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:36:00):
Yeah, I get it, because I I don't give a damn.
I mean, I understand because I know we're always gonna
find something. A couple we are if they're playing small ball,
winning three to one, three to one, three to one,
you know we're gonna say need more slugging. And I
get it. Yeah, But when in that way, when you're
not slugging, seems to me to be genius. So when
did we all conform to the fact that small ball
is not important? I'll take the other side. I know

(01:36:23):
what ever anybody says, but it's the person who wants
to bunt five times? Okay, but there is a time
and a place for that in this thing. Yeah. Now,
yourdon's never laying down a bunt, and if I ask
him to, I'm I'm probably an idiot. But that being said,
cal Rawley maybe not feeling it, wants to lay one
down on his own. The's a third basement. But why not?
I I just don't understand why we are so. But

(01:36:46):
you're right, we want the five thousand yard passer instead
of the guy who wins. Have you ever noticed that?
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, you want you want to
throw yards guy that goes thirteen and four and maybe
through for thirty eight hundred yards? Like do we need
a quarterback? Change? Right?

Speaker 5 (01:37:05):
It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, do dude, you need to
throw for four thousand yards? What was going on?

Speaker 2 (01:37:08):
But we won?

Speaker 13 (01:37:09):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:37:09):
Yeah? Well, well you can't keep when you like, We'll
sure you can if you pretending that, yeah, I'm sure
you can't, but you can't sustain he's sewing for five
thousand yards every year, right, not mean he do it
every year. Yeah, So it just it's just odd to
me when we got that point. Go ahead and let's
roll through this. See uh check, good morning.

Speaker 1 (01:37:26):
Good morning. Was that a couple of questions, Yes, sir, well,
I got a couple of questions. Okay, so did they
ask does even have a take sign? Because we get
pictures struggling to throw strikes? It's three and oh and
guys are all tuning. I've given up on He swings
the stuff you couldn't hit with a telephone pole. But
it's three and oh, you know, take a couple of pitches,

(01:37:49):
lots you know, gets man on base.

Speaker 2 (01:37:54):
I you know, second, Yeah, go ahead, sorry to me, Yeah,
what's your second question? Go ahead?

Speaker 5 (01:37:59):
No, I just I don't think of the big league level,
to be honest with you, Kevin, I don't think at
the big league level they have a take sign. I
think it's just kind of known, you know, you trust
your hitters in those situations.

Speaker 2 (01:38:10):
So I'm not sure that they don't need one, though. Yeah,
I agree with that, But what's your second question.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Well, yeah, because they're up there swinging at three and
oh and the pictures starting. He hasn't thrown a strike
and won't won't get some of their own base. That
gets guys in. They gives you guys a chance to hit.
But my long question is, I'm not reading stories about
the old days of baseball. You know the grounds crewis
I understand expanding the bases, wanting more steals, you know,

(01:38:37):
make the game more exciting, et cetera. And grounds crews.
You know, there was a team I don't remember the teams,
but they were guitorius for laying down buns and the
grounds crew trained to maybe you know, tilted the foul
lines a little bit. But I've noticed the game against
uh uh Stanaheim when the guys split in the home

(01:38:59):
when the throw in the outfield, he seemed to dig
into the home plate area. And I've noticed especially at
minute made they water that INTI you can see the
ball hit twenty feet past the infield, just on the grass,
and it's throwing up rooster tails and I mean, you're
gone on a seemingly innocuous slide comes up. It seems

(01:39:23):
like these guys are digging into that and getting hurt,
and I've just seemed to notice a little bit more
that the intels are getting so watered down. These guys
are actually hurting themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:39:39):
Appreciate the call, Kevin, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:39:41):
I haven't, to be honest with you, Shan, I have
not paid attention to the ground screw and the watering
of it in me either, so I can't really make
a comment on that.

Speaker 2 (01:39:49):
But take sign makes some sense when you really want
them to take where the unless I mean, how too,
You're probably never gonna give it takes Sun, but there
are times that there are times when you almost have
to treat it little league wise.

Speaker 5 (01:39:58):
Yeah you do crazy? Yeah, on a three to zero count. Yeah,
it's pretty crazy to think about Ronnie Todd Thomas. We'll
get to you guys next seven one three, two, one
two five at seven ninety. Continuing to roll along with
these astros, they gonna lock up the AO West tonight.
You know what, if we got to get Go Go
Ashes fired up at eight thirty, we'll do it.

Speaker 2 (01:40:17):
That song is the reason we're not winning yet. Don't
play that song. Let's get swept. If you do, let's
kill it a break right here. On seven ninety, the
Shawn Salisbury Show continued, Thomas, good morning, thank you for holding.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
Okay, what ton of guys love the show.

Speaker 16 (01:40:37):
Just a quick comment, swing at strikes, don't swing at balls,
and the other one.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
The last couple of games.

Speaker 15 (01:40:46):
Is this something to do with something or nothing?

Speaker 1 (01:40:49):
It seems like they've had a lot of infield hits.

Speaker 16 (01:40:53):
I think you Payna had three balls hit to him
on the infield and they all got singles. And yesterday
I think Bregman had a couple.

Speaker 1 (01:41:03):
Just your thoughts on that.

Speaker 5 (01:41:06):
So do you mean wait, you said the balls have
been hit to Penia or Penia's had infield hits.

Speaker 16 (01:41:12):
The balls are being the hit to Painia And yesterday
Bregman had a couple infield balls that were hit to him.
And I've been watching play by play on my phone,
so i only see the strike zone and what happens,
and it's all like infield to Paynya and then the
guys getting hits like three on against the Angels the

(01:41:35):
other day and then a couple yesterday.

Speaker 5 (01:41:37):
Yeah, it could be. It could be some soft contact.
I'd have to go back to like look at the
actual play by play transcript.

Speaker 2 (01:41:42):
But it is a novel concept to swing at strikes
and leave balls alone. You know, it's a hell of
a point. I know it sounds so elementary, but the
ability to lay off that stuff is is probably the
difference between a great hitter, good hitter, and an average hitter.
It's a it's a good point something that we all,

(01:42:02):
you know, stay out of bad situation to put yourself
in good ones. Logical, there's no doubt. Makes sense.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
Yeah, So it looks like, yeah, there are a couple
of uh you know, uh, Thomas, I'm seeing infield hit here,
uh for the Mariners.

Speaker 2 (01:42:16):
So they're small ball and unintentionally and finding a way
to get the base.

Speaker 9 (01:42:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:42:21):
Rodriguez, Yeah, here you go. Uh, Julio Rodriguez reached on
an infield single to shortstop. So yeah, you're you're not
You're not crazy or anything. It's that that whatever you're
watching on the play by play, Yeah, for whatever reason,
it's those are some infield singles.

Speaker 2 (01:42:36):
Thank you for the content, Thanks Thomas. Let's keep it rolling.
Let's go to Todd. Todd, welcome in, Thank you for Alden. Hey,
thanks morning.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
So I just slightly different viewpoint on the small ball
and all that, and the thing and everyone's frustrated when
they lose. I mean, that's how it is. The thing
we have to remember is this approach, whether whether we
like it or not, this approach has been successful for
years now for them. And and if anybody expects them

(01:43:07):
to suddenly change what has worked for them, they're not
going to do that in one year. And and I
mean literally went away from the World Series last year
or should should wrap up the division suit. I mean,
this approach, while frustrating at times, when it works and
they're hot, they look amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:43:29):
And and you know the people that are complaining about
Altuve giving up on him and this and that like
this guy. I mean, he's a Hall of Famer. This
approach that he has at the plate. It doesn't work
for most and when it fails it looks bad. But
I mean he's been excellent at it for years and years.

(01:43:49):
And even though he's having a little bit of a
down year, mostly due to you know, he's getting older,
he's gonna he was gonna start declining at some point,
it's still a very good year in this approach. While
he's been in a little bit of a recent slump,
it's worked for him, and we're not suddenly going to
see a completely different offensive philosophy when we're still a good,

(01:44:09):
winning team. And I'm not saying I wouldn't mind seeing
some more, you know, opposite deal hits here and there
to advance runners. That'd be great, But we're just our
offense just isn't is good this year because the players
just weren't as good this year. Bregman, huge decline, Paynya
the solid he's not Korea. Tucker was heard all two

(01:44:31):
ays a little bit of it down here, Jordan conton Cold.
It's not the approach, it's the players just it's just
hasn't been a great year for a lot of the players,
and so you're gonna see some some frustrating games. And
I don't I just don't think we should start ripping
their their their approach or their their process.

Speaker 2 (01:44:49):
Hey Todd, who's who are you talking about? On social media?
And I mean, who's ripping alt? No, just the fan base, Okay,
all right, Well we appreciate.

Speaker 1 (01:44:58):
It in general in general, y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
Yeah, No, even if we were that, I'm just wondering
if there's a ground swell for this. And Todd, thanks
for the call. Oh, I don't think you changed your philosophy,
but you do have to change your philosophy in game.
And when when I say philosophy, you do have to
just in game you do with with wherever the strength
is your team and the manager. You know you're not asking.
You're not gonna ask alto Bait to quit swinging at
first pitches. And I would argue al Tuove has been

(01:45:24):
hovering around three hundred over the whole year. If this
is a bad year, I'll take it.

Speaker 5 (01:45:27):
Yeah, and it's he's He mentioned that Bregman had a huge,
huge decline. He's literally hitting what he does every single year.

Speaker 2 (01:45:33):
Right now.

Speaker 5 (01:45:33):
He'shitting two fifty seven uh with a four to forty five,
slugging a ops of seven sixty. I mean last year
he hit two sixty two with an eight h four ops.
He's literally right around where he always.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Is, slugging numbers down a little bit, a little bit,
but not you now two days been that's a late
last week he was hitting three h five, I believe,
and I must be. He's he's close to three hundred now,
So I don't I don't have a problem I think
with ple are saying is when you come up right
situational baseball, make call for an adjustment. I think that's

(01:46:06):
what people are talking about. You're not changing out too,
but you're not changing the spots on his game, meaning
what he loves to do, because just as much as
it drives you're crazy. How often do you love a
first pitch hit out of the ballpark because he went cha,
He went hacking right right, So you have to But
I think the adjustments of at times you're going to
have to bunt a guy over, at times you got
to move a gal over. At times you got to

(01:46:27):
be selective and make the pitcher work instead of hacking
at a slider outside the competitive strike zone and gown
you're down oh one. I think that's what some bothers
some But this team's had great success doing what they do.
The key is can they do what they do normally
when they're right in a short series to extend it.
That's what it's going to take, because in a short series,
it takes one good pitching performance and a couple bad

(01:46:49):
hitting performances from the opponent, I mean from your team,
good pitching from the other team, and you find yourself
already now in a single elimination game for game two.

Speaker 5 (01:46:58):
Yeah, real quick, it s get to Ronnie Honi. Thanks
for holding I know you've been on there for a while.
What's going on?

Speaker 17 (01:47:03):
Yeah, thanks a lot, guys, I don't understand the concept
of not You don't need hard hits every single time.
You don't need to swing from the heels every time
when guys are up. Last night, in the seventh inning,

(01:47:23):
I don't know if the Seattle pitcher threw one fastball
because the Astros can't hit slow pitches, breaking pitches. So
you know, I don't know what you talk about adjustments.
Those kinds of adjustments.

Speaker 2 (01:47:35):
Need to be made.

Speaker 17 (01:47:36):
Be happy with getting an infield chopper, be happy with
them hitting the ball the opposite way. I've said this
before Jose Cruz, whenever he used to get into a slump,
he would go to his chop chop mode, which meant
hitting the ball to short as a left handed hitter,
get hits every time, get himself out of a slump.
And the question I had, Well, one other quick comment,

(01:47:59):
it's time now we've protected our starters all year, not
running the pitch count up. We got what five games left?

Speaker 2 (01:48:07):
It's time.

Speaker 17 (01:48:08):
Hunter Brown should have pitched the seventh inning last night.
It wasn't his fault that we lost, but Hunter Brown
should have pitched the seventh inning. I don't care how
many pitches he had thrown, because he was pitching. Well,
when your starter's going well, you got to leave him
in the game, even in the playoffs. Now, if we
make it, and this leads to my question, is it
possible still if the Astros were to lose all of

(01:48:29):
their remaining games for them not to make it to
the playoffs. I don't know the mathematical things.

Speaker 2 (01:48:35):
I'd have to look that up there. You would also
have to depend on a couple of the teams that
are in the wild card mode as well. If they
lose the rest of their games and the Mariners win
the rest, guess what now, you're well, what are they?
How many games out now? The Marits? Yeah? From the
Aos four so with five to play, Yeah, so Mariner's

(01:48:55):
sweep bull series Astros. Well, let's see, let's say the ask,
Well he basically the Astros gott to lose all five,
Mariner's got to win, yeah, all four? Right around there? Right? Yeah,
not doing the math, but as far as wild card
you'd have to go with a couple other teams to
find out if this team loses this, can they lose
or where's the wild card fit in. Let's hope that

(01:49:17):
gets answered tonight.

Speaker 5 (01:49:18):
And as far as Hunter Brown going finishing the sixth
inning one hundred and three pitches, he's not going back
out for the seventh.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
Not usually, No, not as close the posts young and
the ball ain't heavy. But at that point in time,
at this postseason, you're not with You are not, even
though you still need to win. Their belief is they're
going to get that win, right, Yeah, yeah, you're not.
You're not sending him back out there after one hundred
and three pitches. Yeah, it's just not happening.

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This Sean Salisbury show continues to continue.

Speaker 2 (01:51:01):
Well, how y'all do okay? So somebody calls up and
you and ivory what we got going on here? That's
got to be racist? Why is that racist? I don't know.
It's good. So you if I call you up and say,
Brian play uh Shelton, play Blake Shelton. Uh okay, Yeah,

(01:51:21):
does it matter where you come from? I mean if
I say or if I say play uh Sangria, Yeah,
I'm gonna know who the cut master is, right, Yeah?
So if no, but you the guy who called it
all triple Lisa was Felipe knows because Felipe said it.
So if you request it, you usually know who sings it, right,
you feel my point? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:51:40):
But what I said was I wonder if he's gonna
be able to pronounce it correct name triple triple li said, yeah, he.

Speaker 2 (01:51:44):
Will, And you pronounced because he already pronounced it. You
know what, guys, so you don't guess you know it's
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in the low.

Speaker 5 (01:51:54):
Blo It's always as soon as I cross half corner
in front boom, you guys are trapping me.

Speaker 2 (01:51:58):
In the corner and you go into the low block. Dude,
I'm just we we're fronting ones front and we got
a guy and it's playing d who's got his guy?
But he's gonna he is going to he's gonna jump,
put pressure on you from behind. He's going to cross
the land and make sure on the baseline. If you
try to throw a lob in there, he'll defend the
lob because I got you fronted so tight.

Speaker 5 (01:52:14):
Right, But I throw the lob over to my teammate,
Angel Reese, and she misses a two foot layup, gets
her own rebound, misses another two foot layup, gets a rebound,
misses another two foot layup, and then calls for a foul.

Speaker 2 (01:52:23):
Why do you got a dog? Somebody gets forty seven
rebounds at a game, and forty five of them are
missshots of her own. No, why do you got it? Fact? Dog? Facts,
that's that's pay. Let's you know, wait in lsu to
my in my opinion, let's talk to Felipe. Felipe, what
what song did we just hear? For your request? Boon
me on Derosla mafia? A lot of La mafia today,

(01:52:45):
A lot of La mafia. That previous co was AA
that won buy the were trying to pronounce No, I
pronounced it. I said, you said horror. No, police said horror. Yeah,
I'll say something. What's on your mind with these Astros brother.

Speaker 7 (01:53:05):
The first things first, bottom line, y'all all three of
y'all invited to the cookout, no matter where.

Speaker 2 (01:53:09):
Let's go, Yeah, let's go. Hey, let's let's what. Hell Man,
I already know those Victals are gonna be good. The
music's gonna be banging. I'm in cold beer. A couple
of Well, why do you gotta say it like that?
That's why you got it? Racist? Racist filip bang. Well,

(01:53:30):
well we're gonna bring the basic. I'm gonna bring this
other basic. Oh man, Oh yeah, killed me every morning. Hey,
I just wanted to get in, Brian.

Speaker 7 (01:53:42):
You talked about plate divisons, plan man, and and and
and it is. I think it's it at that point
where we are starting to see less of it. You know,
swing and swinging out on the strike zone. You know,
O Pinion swings at something when he's up there, just
like Man, just don't swing at the slider outside.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
He's gonna calm, just don't do it. And he's sometimes
he doesn't something he does.

Speaker 7 (01:54:00):
But to make topic, Man, I think the person on
the team that has the best play discipline in my opinion,
even though I'm very against them, Bregman. Man, he he
can read the ball and he knows how it is.
He knows his strike zone very very well.

Speaker 2 (01:54:13):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (01:54:13):
And when we know that pitch is coming down low,
he's like, oh, I don't have the swing, look at
it below my knees.

Speaker 2 (01:54:18):
He knows it, man, But he needs I think he
needs to.

Speaker 7 (01:54:21):
Go in there to start telling these guys like be
that leader that he is, that you know that team
says he is, and just us. Look, we got to
tighten up the strike zone. Swing like previous color sets,
swing at strikes, don't swing at balls. But with a
small ball, if we can't adapt to it, it's gonna
kill us in the playoffs. Teams see how we are
dealing with it when it's used against us, But we

(01:54:43):
cannot handle it with the like gray by the horns.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
Man, we're just gonna lose by Can you imagine after
all this, lose into a small ball team to beat
to playing small ball? Yeah it would.

Speaker 7 (01:54:57):
It would make me mad, Yeah, like it like that
The worst thing I understand getting beat by a good team,
but getting beat by small ball by.

Speaker 2 (01:55:05):
Any team would hurt you. It would hurt anybody.

Speaker 7 (01:55:08):
And that's the one thing I don't want to go
out with if you go out and you pitch the
game of your life. But they were hitting, hitting every
single pitch you through and you were giving it one
hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
I understand that. But if you're just trying, if you're
pitching your life out there, perfect.

Speaker 7 (01:55:21):
Game all the way to the fifth inning, and the
next thing o they say, hey, I want to butt
the next five batters, butt and you lose because of that,
that's gonna hurt you more than giving up with grand
slam in the bottom of.

Speaker 2 (01:55:30):
The ninth with two hours. It's gonna hurt you a
lot more. Body blows there, yep, yep, you'll steal your soul.
That's right. That's what small ball does take them. It'll
take the life out of the team.

Speaker 7 (01:55:40):
So we they really need to like go ahead and
buckle down and say, let's go ahead and do some
small small ball drills.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
You know, let's learn to do the small ball, but
let's learn how to handle it in a proper way.

Speaker 7 (01:55:50):
And we saw one thing with a break you with
the Baltimo oreials whenever you know, bases loaded or it
was like two runners on and butt and then he
didn't know what's do when the third or went home
and you know then the game was over at that
because they gave up a brand slam layer.

Speaker 2 (01:56:02):
The next better. So yeah, we need to handle the
small ball.

Speaker 7 (01:56:05):
I think that's gonna be our biggest being in the
playoffs is the small ball.

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
There you go, Felipe, great stuff, man, Thank you. Look
forward to the cookout. We can't wait, yea and real
quick go to break is a lot of times I'm
not saying what the astros, but then I would imagine
stressful situations take you out of plate discipline at times,
you know, like high pressure situation used to but the
the well. While the temperature of the game must may change,

(01:56:33):
the approach to the bat doesn't have to. That's really
what it comes down to.

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Got a lot of guys who want to get in
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Speaker 8 (01:59:21):
Well, let's let's get optimistic for a second. All right,
we're gonna win the division tonight. We got our boy
on the mound. We got Gilbert on mount, who's obviously
been fantastic. He has been great against us. But it's
a great night to win, it's a great night to clinch. Secondly,
I think I've listened to you guys countless times, certainly
this morning. I think we're going through a sixteen game
stretch where we haven't had an off day. I think

(01:59:41):
we've seen it this year. We had eighteen in a
row in August bleeding into September. First, I think there's
fatigue setting in. I think this year's look different than
other years. We've had to grind a little bit. More
guys have been hurt, guys have had to fill in,
and I start I think you're starting to see that
at the dish. I think our pitchers have had more
of a mojo because they're operating every sixth day. So
I think, you know, there is some play discipline factors

(02:00:02):
that are coming into this.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
I think guys are walking less than they have in
a normal year.

Speaker 8 (02:00:06):
But I think, look, it all takes is one game,
get our feet underneath us, and I think.

Speaker 2 (02:00:10):
We're back rolling. It ain't going to be easy, but
nothing's been easy the.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
Last year a year and a half.

Speaker 8 (02:00:15):
So I wanted to shed some optimism because I think,
you know, we're we don't want to hit the panic
button too soon or went away from being back on
top and getting into the wild Card series where we
match up against everybody with our starting rotation.

Speaker 2 (02:00:27):
So more than anything, you guys do a great job.

Speaker 8 (02:00:30):
I'm excited about what's coming to night, and I think
we should look forward to the positives, and I think
we got a lot to look forward to.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
Yeah, Brandon, that's a great point. I think I'd have
far more positive than negatives. There's a few things, But
do I believe that the if you're on the teeter totter,
you know that dude that's on the teeter totter that
weighs one hundred pounds more than you. Oh, I think
that the good stuff far outweighs the negative. And I
think there's a lot to be optimistic about. And the
one thing that the biggest thing you can be optimistic

(02:00:55):
about is the team. The fellaws. You're rolling out there
to start baseball games for you and starting pitching. And
if anything tells you, even though this season has been crazy,
you still have a lineup filled with guys who've had
big moments at a lot of times, and so you
have to trust and if it doesn't work, then it
doesn't work. But there's some thing, and there's there's cause

(02:01:18):
for concern. He mentioned a bunch of them, bullpen struggles
at times, the injuries, obviously fatigue, all those things set in.
But the history tells us that the Astros are going
to be fine. I'm actually more concerned about the first
series than anything, because you can't you can have a
two game slump and in another series and still be alive.

(02:01:39):
A two game series slump here and you're at your home.
And I don't believe that the Astros are a first
series out type team. But baseball has been wacko this year. Yeah,
it has, so, no question. But yeah, far more strengths
and a lot to be optimistic about. Although there are concerns.

Speaker 5 (02:01:55):
Yeah, And one of the concerns is he talked about
the stretch of games that they've played without a day off. Well,
you have Tuesday Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday all games
you have. Then you have Monday off and then the
wildcard round starts. You only get one day off in
between the last season, of last series of the season

(02:02:15):
and the playoffs.

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
You get one day off, and so the wildcards start Tuesday.

Speaker 5 (02:02:20):
You said, I believe, yes, double check that, but I'm
almost positive that's how it goes.

Speaker 2 (02:02:28):
So we'll let me double check that. We'll get to
another call, Alex, Welcome in morn guys. How's it going today,
good man. I want to change the.

Speaker 18 (02:02:40):
Mindset a little bit here. I'm wondering. And I know
they're professionals, and we say it all the time. They're
professional players. They're getting paid, and I know that the
guy on the other side is getting paid as well.
But I'm wondering if a lot of the inconsistencies at
the plate and in the field are due to being
in a sense of over amped, if that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (02:03:02):
Like you're coming to the end of the.

Speaker 18 (02:03:04):
Season, the Mariners are starting to slowly figure something out
and they're creeping up on your backsides. Now you're over
amped to try and force a play, make a play,
force a hit, because I know like when I was
in school playing sports, you know, football, basketball, Now that
I'm playing softball during the weeks, I mean, you you
get to where it's like one run difference and you

(02:03:25):
start getting overamped and trying to force something rather than
letting it come to you and slowing it down for you,
slowing the game down for your speed and making them
be the one to screw it up.

Speaker 2 (02:03:39):
Just get you all thoughts on that one.

Speaker 18 (02:03:40):
Like I said, I know they're all professionals, there's a
reason they're all professionals, but everybody's human. So I'm wondering
if it's a matter of being overamped and getting overly,
overly impatient, too much of those things, right, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (02:03:55):
Think I think, Alex, see anything else you got for us? No,
that did.

Speaker 18 (02:04:00):
I was just gonna tell you'll have a good day,
enjoy the rest of this week, and holler at till
next time.

Speaker 2 (02:04:05):
I appreciate it. I think he's spot on, and it
kind of goes in hand and hand what we're saying
plate discipline when it hits pressure wise, and mechanics that
go with plate discipline, and what he's saying that over anxious,
which is part of pate plate discipline, and what does
over anxiousness do in anything you do feels desperate and
takes you out of the mechanics that sustained you. So

(02:04:27):
they're all three intertwined. In my opinion, he makes a
great It makes a great point and it's only human
nature for when it gets closer and you got a
chance to close something out, what do you do the destination?
You see it and you want to reach out and
do it, And truly, once you get to that destination,
guess what you're gonna do? Great, we want it. Celebrate
a little bit, but we've been here before and now

(02:04:48):
we've got a bigger picture in mind. So you don't
get to and you don't get to celebrate long because
you go to Cleveland, you come back and it's time
to go. So, yeah, I think he's spot on. There's
no doubt that trying to create something instead of let
it happen or are very real in all sports. Yeah,
veteran or not, superstar or not. I think it happens
to all of us.

Speaker 5 (02:05:09):
Wildcard round does start a week from today, Tuesday, October first,
so you will.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
Have one day off. You scared, No, You're not scared
at all. No, no, why would I be. I'm just
making sure I own dogs. You played discipline, okay, yeah, all.

Speaker 5 (02:05:22):
Right, yeah that's all right, Okay, not bad. I just
make adjustments, you know, got to got to carry.

Speaker 2 (02:05:26):
Good morning, Good morning, how you guys doing. We're good,
We're good. What's on your mind? Good morning, Carrie, you're
on air.

Speaker 5 (02:05:37):
Brother, Let's go all right, well, I'm not sure what's
going on. Let's talk to Joe.

Speaker 2 (02:05:43):
Joe.

Speaker 19 (02:05:44):
Good morning, Good morning, Good morning, my friends.

Speaker 1 (02:05:48):
Real quick.

Speaker 19 (02:05:49):
Uh, yeah, we're ahead of I'm optimistic, but be sure
the facts. We're ahead of Seattle by four, but it's
really like three because if we're if we tie, they
win because they hit the head there, we're losing seven
to four. So if we're tight, they are in and
we're out. So bottom line is we need one win

(02:06:12):
and one loss from them, and we can do it
all in one game. If we win tonight, that means
they lost. So that's one in one and we're in.
We don't care what else happens. If we get swept.
We got to beat the Guardians twice or settle. We
win one and Seattle and lose one to the to

(02:06:33):
the UH to the Athletics the Guardian. The problem is
if we're going to play the Guardians, and sure they've
already won the Central, but they are only two and
a half games behind the Yankees, who are playing the
Orioles this this this series. So hopefully hopefully, but yeah,

(02:06:55):
I don't know. Somebody said, well, maybe the Guardians would
already have won their Central and won't play as hard. Yeah,
they're going to try and beat the Yankees to be
the number one seed, So hopefully tonight. I was at
the game last night and it was disappointing. Hopefully tonight. Uh,
we're in and we don't have to worry anymore about anything.

(02:07:17):
Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 2 (02:07:18):
Joe pretty well said mans win and get in. Wouldn't
that be awesome? And get in? Wouldn't that be awesome?
Let's talk to our guy, Brandon. Brandon, welcome in. Good morning, Brian,
Good morning, Sean, how are you? Good morning? All good?
My man? All good?

Speaker 3 (02:07:33):
Okay, Astras, Yeah, we do.

Speaker 2 (02:07:36):
We do need to win. Gotta win to get in,
you know, to to win this division. Brandon.

Speaker 3 (02:07:43):
Yep, one, so we can get crans for the postseason.

Speaker 2 (02:07:49):
That's correct. Gotta win tonight, yep. Sean, yes, honey, games
after we have for.

Speaker 3 (02:08:00):
For the postseason.

Speaker 2 (02:08:01):
Say it again. I didn't hear you one more time.

Speaker 16 (02:08:03):
Honey, games that are you playing for the postseason.

Speaker 2 (02:08:07):
Well, you'll play a three game series to start the
postseason and then it'll you know, then you go a
five game series in the next round, so the best
of three, so you got to win two. The best
of five, you gotta win three, and then the last
two series it's best of seven, so win four. So
the minimum amount of games they play in the postseason
would be what two, three and five and nine? What thirteen?

Speaker 7 (02:08:31):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (02:08:32):
It?

Speaker 2 (02:08:32):
Eight and card three? Yes, five, and then four and
four so so that but yeah, the first series is
three games, so you got to win two of the
three to move on, and that'll start a week from
today as long as they close out the division.

Speaker 3 (02:08:46):
Okay, do you know who's going to be pitching.

Speaker 1 (02:08:48):
For Game one?

Speaker 2 (02:08:49):
I would imagine it was it's going to be from
Bravaldez will start Game one more than likely. Okay, that's
what I need, all right, buddy, Thanks people, thank you,
and thank you too. Let's get to break.

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Speaker 2 (02:10:45):
Mixing it in. They got some culture over there. I mean,
why why do we have to? We mix in little
R and B. We mixed in country and Western. We
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we do and roll. We did. We'll head bang it
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(02:11:09):
when you're in it, we may even throw the little
Casey casem in there, damn right, who knows. But if
you roll through them all, if you notice, unless you're
a Spanish that they do people, unless it's a Sapanic
Hispanic radio, they don't throw unless it's police nobby out
at Christmas. And I'll be damned, but that's racist. That
is racist.

Speaker 4 (02:11:25):
Sound there, Just throw it out there when there's more than.

Speaker 2 (02:11:28):
There's more than there's more to Tey Hanald music than
just Felice Navidad. Yeah, you're damned right, all right, Yeah
you did jose Feliciana, we got you, We got you
just one year seven, Yeah, sixty five, I can recognize
hit the sounder. Yeah, that's gotta be racist, unbelievable. And
in fact, all you guys out there to play it

(02:11:48):
just oh, let's just throw in a little police god
to keep the human the Hispanic community happy, right, just
playing four songs later on Christmas time, because we play
like four thousand times, right, and we'll mix in the
Celene Deon version of it just to offset it for
a basic for the white just for the basic white girls. Yeah, no,
we don't do that here, not around here. We throw

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them all in here. Yeah, the love. We wanted everything
she's doing back there.

Speaker 5 (02:12:17):
Speaking of Delilah, she's always like, good morning or good
evening if you're out there driving around and you're feeling
a type of way, and he needed.

Speaker 2 (02:12:25):
To pray, let's do it together, dude. She's like, here
is Celene Deon. Delilah crushes it, dude, I know she does.
She's like eight hundred affiliates, owls and affiliates across the
costs across the country on iHeart Radio Love and I
think I got my mediation to keep thinking about wedding
crashers things. You're sitting at the beginning.

Speaker 13 (02:12:48):
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Speaker 2 (02:12:49):
He's played it in class. No, it's part of a
part of the Yes they do we do something, you know,
a bunch of slides and going through quizing on what
you know ethics and stuff in ethics and in mediation.
And those two clowns come by. Was like, yeah, oh classic, Hey,
don't you just is do you just want to do this?
It was classic and that's the way it started out.

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Please can you please not talk anymore? And give her
one of her pills. And he's like, okay, you guys
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that can you please? They did they use it? They did.
They used it as a as one of the you know,
one of the slides for the in mediation. I'm like,
I hope mediations like that. I could laugh with the
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Speaker 21 (02:14:30):
You're a gamer man, always road before. Thank you talking
about gamers, talking about gamers. I'm looking at this, this
schedule today and what the Astros have put themselves and
put the fans through and what they've done. You know
how I feel about this team. I've said it's going
to be their finest season. It's September twenty third. They

(02:14:51):
got fromber Ball dead on the mound tonight. I believe
it will end here. We'll take a nice rest, get
her a team back together to get ready for the
first round of the playoffs. Now here's what I want
you guys not to lose track us. We know what
it was like when they would follow before. Heck, we
can go back to talking about spring training, how we

(02:15:13):
didn't have enough pitching. Well, here it is. It comes
down to throw all this and if they don't do it, tonight.
We got tomorrow with Confuci, the guy that Dana Brown
brought in. So I just wanted to talk about what
they did and what they've done it twelve and twenty four.
Since then, they're seventy three and forty eight, twenty five

(02:15:35):
things over five hundred. They've had injuries to their best player.
Now we got Alvarez on the men too. They gave
us a scare regnant. The gremlins, I don't know where
they are, but they don't seem to be hanging around
too much. So just look at what this team has accomplished.
And that's why I will stick to mind my saying

(02:15:57):
that this is going to be one of their finest seasons.
Looks forward to the game tonight. Farmer, Baby, keep your head.
Just go out there and do what you can do and.

Speaker 2 (02:16:06):
It'll be over appreciate it all I got, Yeah, thank you.
One thing that's normal is that Fromber keeps in the ballpark.
Great point, tom and just go do your thing and
take care of But there the guy, their face is
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he ain't bad. Oh, he's not bad. Yep.

Speaker 5 (02:16:24):
Farmer Valdez is going to have to get it done
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Speaker 2 (02:18:21):
Yeah, Houndi's tough to drop, isn't it to drop a
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Speaker 5 (02:18:30):
Oh and by the way, those uh City connect jerseys,
the Space City ones done retired to break it out
new ones next year. Last one was last night or
last time they warm was last night?

Speaker 2 (02:18:42):
Been a good run show, been a good run. Did
you like them? I didn't think they were bad. They
were bad. It's been a good run. I don't mind them.
Been a good run. I think we should have a
season where the entire season everybody goes back to throwback
one throwback jersey who everybody decides on. It doesn't It
doesn't have to all be the same year in each city.

(02:19:03):
The Red Sox may want to go back on theirs,
the Astros on their favorite one podres go back to
the old school, ugly brown or mustard colored. Right, Yeah,
you just just go back. It doesn't matter as long
as they've been in your franchise. Go back to whatever
you want. Hell, if the Chicago White Sox want to
wear shorts, sliding shorts in the high sanitary socks, tuck jerseys,

(02:19:24):
go for it. Anyway, I'd love to have that. That'd
be tough to wear those unless you're wearing like maybe
joggers or tights in like April with the baseball seats.
But wouldn't it be cool to one year have everybody
go back to a throwback and that's your that's your
main jersey.

Speaker 5 (02:19:38):
Yeah, it'd be great. I would love that, except for
what are the Yankees gonna wear?

Speaker 2 (02:19:42):
Same thing? They always wear pen strips? Damn lame.

Speaker 5 (02:19:45):
Yeah, yet it's cool though too. They just get it's
because of the pinstripes, you know. Yeah, I would love that.
Get the the what is it the tequila Sunrise jerseys here?

Speaker 2 (02:19:55):
Or about how much you would bring back all that
merch people would be it'd be bringing back memories and
you'd sell a whole bunch of merch, right, and it
would be pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (02:20:04):
I'd like that one year. Yeah, that would be fantastic.
I would I would definitely, uh, grab me a couple
of throwback jersey. I know you're a big jersey guys,
so I'll get you.

Speaker 2 (02:20:12):
I do like them. Baseball is the only jerseys. Like
I said, I buy, I do like throwback baseball jersey.
I think they're pretty cool. Yeah, they're pretty sweet. Love them.
I got a couple of them. Seven one three, Tony.
Welcome in, Hey fellas, it's been a while, y'all. Do
it good to you.

Speaker 22 (02:20:30):
I'm doing fine, you know, i'd like to.

Speaker 1 (02:20:33):
I like to.

Speaker 22 (02:20:34):
I'm like a I like to think ahead a little bit,
like a chess player. This move, that move, But that
really doesn't matter. What matters right now is winning, getting
this getting this game tonight, getting the pitching staff set
up for the playoffs. But but I do want to
fast forward a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:20:53):
What what are they doing, guys with Bregman.

Speaker 22 (02:20:55):
They they didn't try to trade him at the deadline,
So that means that one of two things. I think
either they're gonna try to try to sign him. I
think they're gonna stand him in offer. I think he's
gonna reject it, which will give us a draft pick.
But what do you think about that about bregmant And
as far as the pitching is concerned, I'm I'm I'm

(02:21:15):
thinking that this year is gonna be one of those years,
kind of like seventeen, where starters are gonna have to
pitch out of the bullpit. There's a lot of guys
down there with gas cans in their back pockets coming
in and and and I know they had it nearest,
but I think they're gonna have to depend on some
starters out of the bullpen. What do you guys think
about that? I'll hang up and listen.

Speaker 11 (02:21:38):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:21:38):
So as far as Bregman sean wee excuse me, uh,
Dana Brown said that he had some conversations with Scott
Boris when he saw him at Anaheim.

Speaker 1 (02:21:46):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:21:47):
They're gonna discuss things as soon as the season ends,
so we'll see how those negotiations go.

Speaker 1 (02:21:52):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:21:52):
But they weren't in a rush. What he said, it's
not really that they know. I said, well, would the
other side be irritable about that? And he said no,
they kind of know where everybody is. We kind of know,
he said, there was no frustrating. That's exactly right.

Speaker 1 (02:22:04):
Yea.

Speaker 5 (02:22:04):
So I mean we've discussed this, like, I don't know
what they're gonna do, but I think both of us
have the same sentiment, where make your first offer, your
most competitive offer.

Speaker 2 (02:22:15):
Don't low ball it.

Speaker 5 (02:22:17):
Make it competitive twenty six, twenty seven, twenty whatever million
a year depending on the years, and then and then
leave the ball in his court.

Speaker 2 (02:22:25):
Well, it won't be a I know, Barketing and negotiating
all matter. I mean, you're gonna want the best price.
But you can't make your first offer one that's so
blatantly you piss the other side off to the point
so you got so far to come. And then they
hike their price because well, if you're going to do that,
I've always said, it may not be your last offer,
but make it competitive where they say, okay, this team
values what I'm doing. And I would say that in

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any city, the first offer tells me the initial value have.
If you slap me in the face with it, yeah,
it's much easier for me to leave. That's just human
nature for any athlete, regardless if you love playing here
or not. You almost get to the points that well,
that represents everything. If that's the way they feel about me.
And somebody has five million dollars a year on the
table over your first offer, guess what you're doing. This
becomes an afterthought. You're taking it. That's right. You at

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least got to be competitive with the first one. Then
you go into negotiation. But I also don't understand why
anybody not here anywhere thinks negotiation is beating somebody over
the head with the sledgehammer, where the other guy just
feels like he got hammer smoked. You don't want that
either way. Your astros aren't going to let you do
that because that's where they live. And Scott Boris sure

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as hell isn't going to let you do that because
he's not boring. That's exactly right. So competitive, so you're
in the mix. And as far as Tony talking about
starters with some gas in the bullpen, count on it
in the postseason. There is no doubt you're putting your
best up. And if that means Spencer Araghett he's got
to go give me ninety seven for an inning of

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the third, then that's what you're gonna do. Yeah, you will, Blanco,
even if Verlander's part of that guy you need, I'll
tell you what is the playoffs move on. It almost
feels like I need Verlander in a uniform there on
the roster, right because just for I mean, all hands
on deck. I never know, I just feel like I
need him there. Yeah, I don't know. If you're not
going to pitch him in the first series, I get it,
but uh, yeah, the starter's going with the bullpen. You're

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not gonna just they're not done. Uh, you're gonna use
some of these guys that have been so good to
you all year long, and you're gonna need them in
a bullpen because as we know, those arms are so valuable.
There somebody's gonna get left out that's been there, right.
The problem is who.

Speaker 5 (02:24:28):
Yeah, I think where it stands right now, it's gonna
come Let's say they get to the Alds is going
to come down to, Uh, you'll have fromber Hunter, Brown,
yuse Kakucci who fills that four spot.

Speaker 2 (02:24:39):
Is it Justin Verlander? Is it Renol Blanco or is
it Spencer Arraghedtty? Those those are the three for one. Yeah,
I would think that they'd lean towards Verlander just because
he's Verlander. If you lean towards performance, he'd finish I'm
talking about recent he'd finish behind the other two. He would. Yeah,
it would be for me, it'd be Blanco, Arraghetty and
then Ortlander. Right, That's what it would be. But that

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experience from will come into play of who he is
right at that stage, not in the first series. So
you know who your first three are, right, Yeah, there's
no question about it. Yeah, because when it comes to Verliner,
just look at the back of his baseball card. Yeah,
it's a good place to start, but I always say, no,
it's a good place to end.

Speaker 23 (02:25:16):
End.

Speaker 2 (02:25:17):
That's the Lifetime Achievement award. Let's throw a banquet for him,
right not now, And that's for any player. Well, the
last time you open a box of baseball cards about
three or four months ago. Every now and then buy some, honestly,
really yeah, I used to collect cards back in the day,
a lot of them.

Speaker 5 (02:25:37):
I can only imagine what the OCD that I know
you have. Oh, I knew what every card in there
was at that point. There is no doubt in my
mind account Oh yeah, yeah. I don't get no other cards,
but baseball cards still intrigue me. But I will also say,
like your OCD probably allowed you to get to the
level where you got as a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (02:25:56):
There's no doubt it will. It hurts you in some
ways at times it was are favorable to me because
o CD never let you not prepare you you just can't.
Matter of fact, you get to the point. Here's where
the negative was. At times over prepare that prevented you
from at times reacting like they say, Okay, wait a minute.
I studied that all week long. They not they haven't

(02:26:17):
done that. They did twice. Well that one time they
get you like what appens? So at times OCD could
bet my OCD to a point where I would. I
can tell you where every needle in the haystack is.
There's absolutely I need help. Okay, there's no doubt about it.
It's caused me some heartache having OCD. But the other
part of it is when it comes to that preparation.

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I knew I never went into a game not having
every single duck aroun Now, I knew they were gonna
come with something, but there you weren't gonna be If
you're gonna beat me, it wasn't gonna because lack of preparation.
And OCD had a ton to do with that. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:26:51):
Yeah, my father was a big baseball card collector. I've
got some very rare like a bo Jackson card that
I've never I have this little old school like almost
sardine can't container with like a couple of rare baseball
cards and then like four or five rare coins because
that's what he collected back in the day.

Speaker 2 (02:27:08):
My dad was also about My dad was a stamp collector. Yeah,
same great stamp collection. Yeah, he was a coin collector,
and my dad had some of it, and I screwed
it up because we go out and play with him.
My dad had the greatest marble collection. Yeah, my dad
collected marbles too. Phenomenal, my deck talking marbles, phenomenal. I
never understood it, Oh man, I still don't. Oh I did.
I friging love. Marbles were big back in dude. During

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recess when I was going, like when you had break,
we called it. I still call a recess. Yeah, recess.
We go out there and if you weren't playing sports,
there was time when you'd bring your best like bold,
you know, big mar of the Boulders and the Steely's,
the steely would get double hit him, keep them. I'd
go there and I'd bring a whole bunch of new
marbles home, and every now and then you'd lose a
good We'd like, I got to get that back? Who
got that from me? Because it's my dad's stashed like,

(02:27:53):
go buy some marbles, don't be playing with Pop's collection.
So yeah, it's in but OCD no doubt about everything
lined up in a row.

Speaker 5 (02:27:59):
Yeah that was See you're you're you're playing marbles, rolling
marbles at recess and I'm rolling dice cuz little twenty
twenty twin.

Speaker 2 (02:28:10):
Yeah, well, hey guys, let's get to the fun segment.

Speaker 5 (02:28:17):
Yeah, no doubt about it. Got a couple of calls
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Speaker 13 (02:29:30):
We want to win.

Speaker 4 (02:29:32):
Sean Salisbury continues on seven ninety.

Speaker 2 (02:29:35):
Final three calls of the show. It's make them quick
so we can get everybody in, John, what's happening here?

Speaker 1 (02:29:41):
We go? Make quick man?

Speaker 3 (02:29:43):
You know what I used to come back Brian toenails.

Speaker 2 (02:29:49):
He collects toenails.

Speaker 1 (02:29:51):
You do.

Speaker 2 (02:29:52):
Is there any jam in them? Little ToeJam? That's nasty?

Speaker 21 (02:30:00):
Well?

Speaker 3 (02:30:00):
You know, hey, I thought I hadn't talked to you
all in a while.

Speaker 5 (02:30:03):
You know, been busy, yeah, busy, yeah yeah, floating the river, camping, hunting,
and doing a damn thing on the roof.

Speaker 13 (02:30:08):
I know that.

Speaker 2 (02:30:09):
Birds. Yeah, I hope you're okay taking on showing yesterday.
Don I checked on showing yesterday. Tell him down. I wish,
I wish you check on.

Speaker 17 (02:30:21):
I check on you every day.

Speaker 2 (02:30:22):
Yeah, that's true. So know I got people everywhere.

Speaker 24 (02:30:24):
Hey, man, look man, on this Verdi and the thing
real quick. I know it's gonna piss people off, but dude,
you know, hey, it is what it is. Okay, you
got us there, you did this, you did that, But
what have you done for us lately?

Speaker 1 (02:30:36):
Nothing?

Speaker 24 (02:30:37):
I'm sorry, man, it's over.

Speaker 1 (02:30:39):
Father time has one.

Speaker 3 (02:30:41):
Joan Brown can.

Speaker 24 (02:30:42):
Say I was fine all that his neck, his neck, dude,
it's over and I'm sorry. But what you're gonna trust
this man and a four I know, not in the
three game but in a four game series, seven game series,
to go out there and give up four five first
eating two because he gives him up, and then you're

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gonna be chasing your tail for the rest of that game.
I'm sorry, man, Hey, get on the bench and cheerleader.

Speaker 3 (02:31:13):
Be an inspiration.

Speaker 2 (02:31:14):
Thanks for what you did for us.

Speaker 3 (02:31:16):
Here's your money.

Speaker 2 (02:31:18):
He's out, Men of Fells, Thank you.

Speaker 5 (02:31:22):
John Stalk to uh, you think he's done here after
this season? I do, Yep, sure do. I don't know
where he's gonna go, but I doubt it's here. It's
talk to Mike, Mike, what's going on?

Speaker 23 (02:31:33):
Hey, guys, I just want to chime in on Bregman.
I agree that we should make to play an offer.
I think this should be something like thirty five million
a year for six years for like you know, two
ten or whatever that math is. Just get a two
figure in front of it, because if you don't, it's
an insult to him. He's gonna go shopping. And if
we paid the first base of thirty five million, we
can pay our start third base of thirty five million.

Speaker 2 (02:31:55):
So you you would make him the highest paid third
basement in baseball. I think so.

Speaker 23 (02:32:00):
And the reason why it is not necessarily his offense.
I know I've called him before hammer of his offense
except for the playoffs. He team to show up once
in a while, but the his defense is just above beyond.
It's ridiculous. I mean he should who was the guy
was ahead of him for many years? Didn't go gloves
all the time.

Speaker 2 (02:32:15):
When bregman Ford have got to come, Matt Matt Chapman.

Speaker 23 (02:32:18):
Chatman, Yeah, couldn't think of his name. Yeah, now he's
in the other league. So Fragman's defensive skills. And I've
been watching when my daughter got married to a baseball
guy in twenty seventeen, and that wasn't a big baseball guy.
I was a football guy. Inficiated football a high level
back in the day.

Speaker 2 (02:32:32):
That's a let story.

Speaker 23 (02:32:33):
But the I started watching baseball at seventeen, good timing, right,
and I fall in love with it. And Fragmant's defensive
skills even this year, he's ridiculous. I mean, just some
of the plays he makes, and and then you watch
like Shay Wickcombe or the Zenzo over here as the
hell plays other once in a while. It's just such
a drop off. I cannot imagine not having him on
that hot corner.

Speaker 1 (02:32:55):
Of those days.

Speaker 2 (02:32:56):
I agree. I don't know if they're gonna get the
thirty five million, but yeah, I would imagine Scott Borris
is gonna ask for But his defense is off the charts.
There's no question. There's absolutely no question. I have to
play this special Mike, good call, thank you, and uh
final call the show will good morning one of the guys.
So I got a couple of points and a couple questions.

Speaker 22 (02:33:16):
On maybe.

Speaker 25 (02:33:18):
One, I actually think we should put Verlander in the
rotation all but make him like the fourth starter because
he's gonna be better than any other fourth starter you're
going up against. And so I mean, if we're gonna
have to put up runs against a fourth starter for
a different team, I think we have a better chance
with Verlander doing it.

Speaker 2 (02:33:36):
That's just me.

Speaker 25 (02:33:37):
Also, what the other gentleman just said, I agree, make
Bregman the highest paid third baseman because you think of
Machado or Ornado. They haven't won on the World Series.
Bregman's won US two. So I mean the other guys,
you've paid him a lot, but they haven't done anything.
And then also you're talking about trading cards. I watch
a story the other day. I don't know if you
guys are familiar with the Uncle Jimmy story. This uncle

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no kids never made. UH used to write letters to
Babe Ruth and like lou Garring and all these players
and would get cards back signed by them, And so
when he passed away, his nieces and nephews went through
his attic and I believe found like eleven million dollars
worth of authentic sign cards in like ment condition, which

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is a pretty cool story.

Speaker 2 (02:34:26):
That's awesome man.

Speaker 25 (02:34:28):
Last, but not least, Sean, I was watching a documentary
with you in it. It might be a little personals.
I don't know if you want to answer it, but
the Broke documentary on thirty for thirty.

Speaker 2 (02:34:37):
Was very impactful. I was honored that I got to
be a part of that. Yes, and it's still it's
still place you.

Speaker 25 (02:34:44):
First off, I was kind of excited. I was like, hey,
that's my guy. But then I, you know, I did.
I just wanted to know, like, did you end up
kind of being careless with your money or were you
just around a lot of that?

Speaker 2 (02:34:55):
Did it for? They both bring you on and get
your opinion both. I hit rock bottom with both. It's
it's to be able to talk about the pitfalls that
athletes face and I didn't come from a family like that.
You get, you know, you think you're going to be
working forever, and one thing happens leads to another and
before you know it, oh my gosh, and you know
you don't take divorce into finances. Nobody ever hires a
financial advisor and for what it and says, you know,

(02:35:17):
divorce will be it that I'm going to make sure
I put that in there, because that's just like a
bad Homan, right, So you don't plan for that, and
all of a sudden it hits and it's like, WHOA,
that's a lot of money. And on both ways, it's
a it's a it's it sucks. It's unfair for anybody.
So yes, I went through mine, and it's taught me
valuable lessons to rebuild something special in my life, which
was important and you take personal pride in that, but

(02:35:38):
also responsibility and accountability. But also part of that was
also to be able to tell people that these are
the pitfalls and when you're when you're living proof of them.
And you got buddies that are so both being around
friends who made millions and don't have any left and
those who didn't make much and have a lot left
and those who were in between and made a lot
and still keep a lot. And it really isn't what

(02:35:59):
you make, it's which you can. And so you learn
valuable lessons and I was honored to be a part
of it because I probably get more calls on that
than I do. I mean, when it comes around, I'll
get a hundred calls in three days. And I just
saw it. Man, that was just yeah, impactful, not because
of me, but the impactful message that it sends. And
they that's the best thing they do. The documentaries, the

(02:36:19):
thirty for thirty phenomenally are unmastered, and they are they
are there. They're gut wrenching at times, but they are
also a lot of lessons learned. And I was honored
to be a part of that because I'll tell you what,
Like I said, there's growth in unpaved roads, and I
know what that unpaved road in rock Bottom looks like.
And you try to keep people out of it. And

(02:36:40):
I feel like that's part of my responsibility now, I
really do. You find you find out a lot about
yourself when playoff baseball as are going to as are
going to try to win the al Wes and I Blummer, Hey, Todd,
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