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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Government people are going to prison, we have changes happening
in the military. Wisconsin's governor throws like a girl. All
that and more coming up on I'm right. How many
times have you heard me say communists only understand fear
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and pain. We've talked about this over and over and
over and over again. We're about to talk about it again.
We're about to talk about the why, because there is
something wonderful happening and we need to give credit where
credit is due. Let me first get this out of
the way in case you happen to be a new
viewer of us here on I'm right. I don't wave
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pom poms for people. I don't nobody, no politician know nothing.
They're all just rental cars to me, use them to
get where you're going.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
And then dump them just because that's exactly what they'll
do to you.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
And so even when we have the administration want when
we don't see the results we want, we out, but
we also need to give out.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Credit where credit is due.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
We've been yelling about the necessity for government people to
be arrested, not the latest gang banger or this that
that stuff is fine. People in government, communists using the
system for their own nefarious goals must be arrested. Let
me go ahead and get this out of the way again.
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If Trump's four years ends without government people in prison,
no matter what else happens, trade, border, what else is,
four years will have been a failure. And I say
that not to be harsh. I say that because rooting
out the communist cancer inside the government is the most
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important goal by a mile. The border could just be
unsecured again by these people if you leave them where
they are. Trade can be destroyed again by these people.
If you leave them where they are and flesher go
down the list. All these problems we're fixing all come
right back without government people going to prison. So let's
discuss what we're seeing here. We have two judges arrested
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last week. Two of them. One of these ladies is
Dugan out of Milwaukee. Listen to what she did.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
The judge learns that Ice was outside to get the
guy because he had been deported in twenty thirteen, came
back in our country, commits these crimes. Charged with committing
these crimes victims in court. Judge finds out. She goes
out in the hallway screams at the immigration officers. She's furious,
visibly shaken, upset, sends them off to talk to the
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chief judge. She comes back in the courtroom here going
to believe this, takes the defendant and the defense attorney
back in her chambers, takes him out of private exit
and tells him to leave while a state prosecutor and
victims of domestic violence are sitting in the courtroom.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Why would she do that? This is going to be
the fear and pain portion a judge.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
A judge just hated a fellon escaping law enforcement.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Why would she do that? Well, this is important.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
This is important for understanding why we have to arrest communists,
why they only understand fear and pain. So let me
again explain it this way. Politics is probably what you do,
not who you are. Let me explain that's a good thing.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
And I'm not doubting.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Your beliefs on what you want out of government or
don't want out of government. I know you probably believe
it all the way, but it's not your entire life,
is it. I'm glad you join us every single night
you're watching I'm right. I appreciate that very much, But
you have other things in your life, family, work, church.
You have a life out side of it. It's not
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your religion. You don't look to it every minute of
every day, do you.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Of course you don't. I hope you don't.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
But see, this is the separation between us and the communists.
The communist does, he does. It is everything to him.
He will show up in every election, he will peruse
the news.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I didn't mean for that to rhyme, but that sounded good.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And he will sit there and just get angrier and
angry or angrier all day long. I gotta do something
fa He is a religious sellate in every sense of
the word. If you want to understand how these people
think you should actually look to radical Islam. It's the
closest I've ever seen these Jihadis who walk into a
theater with a nail bomb and blow themselves up. The
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American Democrat more closely resembles that person than anyone else
in your life, certainly closer to him than he ever
could be to you. Politics, power, destruction is everything to
the communist, and so the communist he doesn't set aside
his communism when he gets really important jobs, important rules.
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This is how we get confused. This is why we
get confused. Maybe you woke up and you saw a
headline of a judge whisking away an illegal to escape custody,
and you thought to yourself, what, that's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (05:22):
Did you say anything like that unbelievable? What's very, very believable?
Do you think did you think.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
Dougan sees herself as a judge just because she went
through law school and jumped through all the hoops and
had this long legal career, and now she wears these
judges robes and has a really important job. Do you
think she sees herself as a judge first? Doesn't see
herself as a judge. First, She's a Communist first. It's
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her religion. Everything else is secondary. It doesn't matter whether
she puts on a judge's robes, a general's uniform, doesn't
matter whether she puts on the uniform of a cub
Scout leader, a news man, a politician, an FBI agent.
Communism always comes first. Everything else is a side issue.
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Everything else is ancillary. In fact, the communist is usually
pretty honest, as Dougan once was. They really only got
that role, They only sought out that role to push
more communism.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
The law is a real challenge in making sure that
justice happens for people. It's transformative in people's lives, but
it also especially the United States, it is considered a
stabilizing force. It's something that keeps us out a constant path.
The rule of law is how we address our social issues,
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how we address our disputes, but also how we always people.
I as a person who for a couple decades almost
represented low income people, it is due process that really
equalizes those differences between people. Then we're able to achieve
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that equal justice that we are promised and hope to
have continue despite our differences, despite our class differences, despite
our racial and religious differences.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Does she sound like a woman who sits down there
on the bench just trying to do a judge job
way a judge is supposed to do it, or does
that sound like one hundred percent committed communists who sought
out the role of judge in order to push communism
every single place you win. It doesn't matter what you uniform,
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what skin suit the communist puts on, He's always a
communist first. That's why you walk in Aiden, Jaden and
Braden's second grade classroom and you see the teacher there
with pink hair, a bunch of rings in her face,
a Black Lives Matter poster trying to teach your sons
how to be gay. They didn't seek out the role
as teacher so they could teach. They sought it out
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so they could push communism, and that they have to
do some teaching along the way. That's fine, but that
brings me back to the point of why this is
so important and why we should applaud it. And I
know what you're saying, it's just the start, It's just
the very beginning. I know, this is just a tip.
This is just the beginning. There are so many more
arrests needed. But you see, because he's a religious zealot
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who never can set his communism aside, the only chance
you have at stopping him and his revolutionary efforts is
fear and pain.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It's all he will ever understand.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Sultsanitsen talked about it, having been a victim of communism,
a member of the Gulags. He called communists the enemies
of the human race, and he said all they understand
is the big fist, and the harder you hit them,
the safer they will be. Now, we don't like thinking
like that or talking like that on the right makes
us uncomfortable.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
But these people, unless.
Speaker 1 (09:23):
They have to wake up on Monday morning and open
up social media and look at videos of other communists
being arrested for their crimes, will never ever ever stop.
They can't. They have to know something will hurt them.
My dog, it's just like your dog. Table scraps food
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that gets dropped on the floor.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
He's gonna get it. He can't help it. It's in his.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Instincts, it's in his nose, but he smells it. He
can't help it. Now, what's the only way, The only
way I will get my dog to stop running for
a fry when my son's purposely drop it on the ground.
I have to discipline him in some way I don't know,
Whip him in with the newspaper, something, yell at him something.
Unless I find a way to give him pain, fear,
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he will never stop. The American communist, it's just like
the Soviet Communists, the Chinese Communists, the Cambodian Communists, the
Canadian communists, They're all the same. They will never ever
ever ever stop because they are religious sellots and they
are communists first. It's why these press conferences like the
one Tom Holman gave are actually very very valuable.
Speaker 5 (10:36):
Any public officion where you're mayor city councilmen or the governor,
there are a number more responsibilities protecting the communities. And
Ice has been clear we're targeting public safety threats and
national security threats. I can't read there's any elected vision,
and especially a judge there doesn't belave we should be
doing that and they should be helping us. But I
seven day one. You can sit aside and watch, you can.
You can argue against us, always want, and protest all
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you want. But when you cross that line. I've said
this a thousand times, when you cross that line to
impediment or knowingly Harvard concealing an illego alahim Ice, you
will be prosecuted, judge or.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Not, which brings me to something else I want us
to understand as we wrap this thing up, because JB.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Pritsker, Governor JB.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Pritsker said something that was pretty revealing of how these
people think. Before I show it to you, I want
to say this. Remember the reason they're like this, part
of the reason they're like this is communism is now
and always will be a revolutionary ideology. Religion, however you
want to put it, I'll call it a religion. It's revolutionary.
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It first got going in the Soviet Union in Russia
as a revolutionary movement, revolting against the czars, revolting against this.
It's always builled as revolutionary. And when mawdd it, they
were revolting against the system they had in China at
the time. Polepots same thing here America's Democrats. Exact same
thing here, revolutionary. And because it's revolutionary, the idea is
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tear down the existing power structures, tear down everything what exists.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Everything in power.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
That exists is bad, and our revolution has to tear
it down.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
That's how these people think.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
And so even when they're in critical positions of power
like judge, even president, senator or governor of Illinois, they
speak as revolutionaries.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Never before in my life have I called for mass protests,
for mobilization, for disruption. But I am now. These Repubblicans
cannot know a moment of peace. They have to understand
that we will fight their cerultry with.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Every megaphone and microphone that we have.
Speaker 6 (12:57):
We must castigate them on the soapbox and then punish.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Them at the ballot box. They can't help it. It's
in their bones.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Revolutionary religious zealots arrest them everywhere you find them committing crimes.
They will always commit crimes because again, the idea is
to break the system they'rein. All that may have made
you uncomfortable, but I am right David. Nino Rodriguez joins
me next to discuss this further. Before we get to David,
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let me get to sleeping. Maybe my favorite thing in
the world, especially because I'm old now. I had a
dinner reservation on Saturday night, took the wife out.
Speaker 7 (13:47):
You know what time.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
I made that reservation.
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Speaker 2 (14:33):
We'll be back.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
We are going to prosecute you, and we are prosecuting you.
I found out about this the day it happened. We
could not believe actually that a judge really did that.
We looked into the facts in great depth. That's her
picture up on the screen, Hannah Dugan, who is now
in custody. Cannot obstruct a criminal case and really shame
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on her. It was a domestic violence case, of all cases,
and she's protecting a criminal defendant of her victims of crime.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Good it's a good start.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
A couple judges getting arrested, I'd say a good start,
I'll put it that way. Joining me now former heavyweight
boxing champion of the world.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Gosh, that's so freaking cool to have that on your
resume the rest of your life.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
David Nino Rodriguez, host of Nino's Corner Ninio. I am
a happy man, and look, I know it's just start,
but at least we have some of these scumbags going
to jail.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Absolutely, you know, I'm excited about that. These are just
the what I call the preliminary arrests, Like you have
preliminary fights to the main event. These are the preliminary arrests.
Mark my words. These are gonna get better. They're going
to go up and scale. I think probably once the
Russia gate blows open and twenty twenty, those are all coming.
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I predict this year by August, and I think we're
going to see some bigger type arrests. I think more
prominent arrests. And you know, any judge that's obstructing justice
or slowing down the process is just shining a light
on themselves. And I believe you know, I called the
Trump operation at the Trump administration that they will be
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arrested and be held accountable for harboring and aiding in
a betting terrorism nil.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
A lot of people found this story to be just
simply unbelievable. I don't even know which one is more shocking,
the judge in New Mexico that had a prison gang
member living with him and his wife or the judge
who helps somebody escape out or private quarters.
Speaker 2 (16:43):
It's so brazen.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
These people just what operate and think they'll never be charged.
Speaker 8 (16:50):
They think they're above the law, you know, and I
know El Paso is probably the most, probably one of
the deepest parts of the swamp. If you want to
know the truth, you got to remember the cartels control
a lot of Texas, a lot of New Mexico, a
lot of Arizona, well, a lot of the all fifty states,
if you want to know the truth. But I think
that we will see as this progresses, more and more
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judges go down, lawyers, immigration lawyers. The whole swamp is
going to get drained. And I think we're just seeing
the very beginning of it right now. You got to
remember who's controlling both sides of the border. It's the cartels.
They have these auditions in their back pocket, is what
I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
No, I think we should expand on that a little
bit more, because people who know will point out how
many banks there are in these tiny towns along the
southern border. People who know, we'll talk about the public corruption.
We like to think that we're above that, and that's
you know, that's a Mexico problem that happens in Columbia.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
But how many cops, how many.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Judges, how many mayors are on cartel payrolls in this country.
The answer is way more than we think about.
Speaker 8 (17:58):
Oh you're not, and let's not forget get churches and
wait till that cracks. So yeah, we're talking about all
of every institution, every organization, not just the politics here,
not just politicians. When this cracks open and people understand
just how how corrupt all systems are, all organizations and
who's controlling it all these five oh one seed threes,
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I think it's gonna be a big awakening, even a
greater awakening that's already happening. This exposing is about to
hit a point of no return. Seriously, when you find
out like how much the cartels really control through China,
by the way, China also go run side and side
by side with the cartels. This is gonna pop open
and people are gonna see just how corrupt our system
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really is.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Nino Pam Bondi, Well here she was talking about that
raid in.
Speaker 9 (18:46):
Colorado during the Biden administration. They received one hundred and
seventy nine to one one calls to that club alone,
that club, we were just watching one hundred and seventy calls.
Wouldn't you think that would have been a red flag?
Would nothing happened, guns, shootings, AG batteries, nothing happened. So
under Donald Trump, DEA, FBI, US marshals atf ICE, everyone
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went in together. Dea led this investigation, went in, got
one hundred and fifteen illegal immigrants aliens in our country,
arrested them, two with warrants, twelve guns seized. So what
would happen in this club is you would go in,
security would give you a menu of drugs, cocaine, there's
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something new called pink cocaine, math, you could go in
a bathroom stall, get that. Those prostitution, all these things
going on, and we just now identified a member of
Sinaloa cartel was also in there.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Good god, pink cocaine just makes me feel old. I
don't even know what drugs are anymore. But the Biden
administration clearly just allowed these things to operate. They wanted
these things to operate. How am I supposed to take
that any other way?
Speaker 8 (19:59):
Ne Neil, Well, that was a shot across the battle. Look,
I'll tell you what's happening here, and I'll passo. Okay.
They've closed down a lot of the tunneling systems here, okay,
And then they started happening even before Trump got in
So it makes me wonder how long has this been
really happening. Because one of the main tunnels that they
closed down, a main artery, was shut down before even
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Trump got in office, so I think this operation has
been been afoot for a while now. But regarding what
I just saw right there, the the immigrants being rounded
up in a club raid, They've raided apartment complexes here.
I've seen soldiers, army soldiers with the police, which I've
never seen before. I didn't get much details on that,
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but there was some apart. There was an apartment complex
right next to my house that got raided, and it
looked like they were taking in a bunch of immigrants
with army personnel and the police side by side. So
I'm not sure how that was being played out. It
was very to me. I was like, huh, I have
never seen that before in my life. But you know,
I have friends here in Olpaso that have clubs, have
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you know, topless bars, things like that, and nobody's showing
up for work. People are scared, like all their employees
are just not coming to work, so their businesses are suffering.
And I just said this on another program earlier when
I was traveling from the Olpaso to San Antonio, San
Antonio back. Usually that flight is back to the gills
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no matter what time you go. This time I went
seventy to one hundred open seats. So they're not even traveling,
they're not going to work. Three thirty million plus immigrants
are just in a frozen state right now, not knowing
what to do. So the Trump effect is real and
it's happening.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
I love it, And you know, let's shift gears and
cross the pond over towards Russia Ukraine. I keep telling
people the peace process is going to take long time.
Everyone thinks it's going to be a day Donald Trump
gets in there and negotiates this, and that it's a
lot harder to stop a war than it is to
start one.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
But it looks like we're making some kind of progress.
Speaker 8 (22:08):
You know, I think Zlenzi obviously I'm not the only
one that thinks this. He's controlled by the globalists. They
use the countries as proxies. Ukraine has been, you know,
been shown to have bio labs. It's a money laundering
because ahead of the snake for the money, money laundering
of the Biden regime of any other dirty, filthy politicians
and presidents. So yeah, they're going to drive their feet.
You know, I don't see a peace deal coming in
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that easily. I think there's a lot of evidence they
got to get rid of. I think, like I said,
Zelenski wants this war. The globalists want this war. H
and Putin, I believe, is just doing what he needs
to do in his interest.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
It's going to be very very much.
Speaker 8 (22:49):
It can be very very.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, it is. It is all right.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
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Speaker 1 (24:12):
Maybe I'm just in a good mood, but I'm handing
out all sorts of carrots. Tonight, let's talk about Pete
hag Seth, the Pentagon, the military, because this is something
that we've discussed for a very long time. You know,
this is something I'm o about the destruction of our military.
And just to recap things that I've said under Joe
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Biden and Obama and things like that, when the military
is rotting, you can't see it unless you're in it,
and oftentimes you can't even see it while you're in it.
But unless you're in it, you can't see it, and
you can't understand completely why it matters to you. Well,
it's not that you can't understand. It's hard to make
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that connection. Right When I come on here and I
talk about standards dropping in the military, getting full of
a bunch of fat communists who are destroying our fighting readiness.
You care, I care, But what's the matter to us?
You know, we went to work and school and you
have a life and things like that. Okay, it's not ideal,
it's not what you want, But what does it matter.
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Here's why it matters so much and why I talk
about it so much. I love history, battles and war
and all kinds of things, like every other dude.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
I love that stuff.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
But when I read the stories of crumbling empires whose
indestructible armies were defeated, and what happens to the people
after those armies are defeated, it wakes me up. It
shakes me awake. We've talked before about the fall of
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Carthage in the Third Punic War. The general as Carthage
was burning. Carthage was this juggernaut empire. But Rome completely
wipes them out. And as Carthage is burning, it begins
to weep. Why was he weeping? Was he sad for
all those Carthaginians? No, he wrote it down. He was
weeping because he knew that would be Rome one day.
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That's what happens to empires. That's what I don't want,
and that's what will happen to us one day if
the military slowly but surely continues to ride out from
under us.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
We don't think it will.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
We look at all the planes and the bombs and
the bullets, and were America can't happen to us?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Oh yes it can.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
Every single empire who's ever said that, it's happened to
them eventually. So I want to give credit where it's due. Pete,
heex has done a really excellent job. He's done an
excellent job. But he has a mountain to climb, and
look they try to take him out with all these
ridiculous hits on him and things like that he didn't
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do this a signal chat and whatnot, he talked about it.
Speaker 10 (26:48):
I know exactly why I'm here to bring war fighting
and the war fighting ethos back to the Pentagon, to
rip out the insidious ideologies and not compromise and not
back down new press voices into the Pentagon, which we've done,
to re establish standards and accountability, to not tolerate leakers,
to one hundred percent operational control of our border, to
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get rid of trans lunacy in the military. We haven't
backed down.
Speaker 7 (27:15):
So here's the thing.
Speaker 10 (27:16):
A lot of people come to Washington and they just
play the game, and it's punch their ticket and get
along to go along, and you know, start doing meet
the press and go into the Council on formulations and
spending time with all the new cocktail sipping crowd. That's
not why I'm here. I'm here because President Trump asked
me to bring war fighting back to the Pentagon. Every
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single day, that is our focus. And if people don't
like it, they can come after me. No worries. I'm
standing right here. The warfighters are behind us. Our enemies
know they're unnoticed, our allies know we're behind them. And that,
in this dangerous world for the American people, is what
it's all about.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
He's done well so far. He's slowly cleaning out the gunk.
Now there's a ton of gunk to clean out. And
I'll be honest with you, I don't know if he
can do it in four years. I don't know if
it's possible for anyone to do it in four years.
That's not on Pete. But he's started and he's doing
all right.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
He is.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
He got Susan Rice out of the Dagon board which
it's amazing she was ever on there. To begin with,
She's one of the most evil communists in this country.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
Here she was whining about it.
Speaker 11 (28:25):
Well, if you're a white male, Christian cis gender macho
maga man, you can be as dumb as a rock,
uh and be deemed qualified to serve as Secretary of Defense.
That's apparently what we've learned from this episode. But let's
also be clear there's a serious point here. DEI has
been used as a slur. Anybody who you know, fits
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the mold of somebody who is not a white Christian
cisgender male, is by definition, in this administration, deemed inferior.
Speaker 1 (29:02):
Why has the military rop been so bad? Because people
like that demon have been running things for a long time.
Think about that. That wasn't some sociology professor at cal Berkeley.
She's been in critical positions of power, national security positions
of power for a long time, imposing her Communism on
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everything she touches.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
So back to Pete Hegseth. For those who think there's.
Speaker 1 (29:28):
More to do, and there is a lot more to do,
you're right about that, but there is a lot of
mess to clean up. And from what I see so far,
not too bad, Pete, not too bad?
Speaker 2 (29:40):
All right? Maybe I'm just in a good mood today.
Speaker 1 (29:43):
Talk to Jason Nelson about the military rot on the
inside in a moment. Before we talk to him, let
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Speaker 2 (30:28):
We'll be bad.
Speaker 12 (30:35):
All right.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
Let's talk about something terrible.
Speaker 1 (30:37):
You remember that terrible crash in DC Helicopter Army helicopter
Commercial Airliner had to believe it was a ballet team,
a youth ballet team on it. An awful story from
just a short while ago. And you remember how we
handled it on the show like we always do, chasing
stupid headlines and things like that.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
We prayed for the family, said.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
The facts will come out, kind of left the whole
thing at that. Well, we have some facts out. They
aren't good, but I don't want to interpret them.
Speaker 2 (31:08):
I'm gonna ask Jason to do that. Joining me now.
Speaker 1 (31:10):
Jason Nelson retired Marine, United States Army Special Operations Command.
You can follow him online at real Jason Nelson. All Right, Jason,
I wasn't a pilot that would never let me do
something that involves that much intelligence.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Tell me what happened here.
Speaker 13 (31:26):
Well, first of all, we're both too tall too. I've
ever been pilots, so I don't think that's gonna happen.
But that said, what's interesting that came out about this, Jesse,
is that and like you said, the key here is
that obviously, don't want to jump to conclusions.
Speaker 7 (31:38):
You want to sit here.
Speaker 13 (31:39):
The most important thing is that there is a massive tragedy,
sixty seven lives lost. That's the focus here. But at
the same time, we need to learn from these mistakes.
And as you've seen the data that's come out, there's
been hundreds of near misses. At that same airport. This
is a constant problem. I don't know why they're using this.
They've tried to shut down this airport numerous times. It's
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apparently Congress it's just too convenient for them. But that said,
you could see on approach, when that helicopter was moving
into the line to where the plane was approaching, they
were warned off by the tower multiple times.
Speaker 7 (32:11):
She was above where she was supposed to.
Speaker 13 (32:13):
Be an altitude, she was traversing in an area she
was not supposed to be traversing. But most importantly, I
think those last fifteen seconds where her right seat instructor
told her to make a turn, told her instructed her
said hey, look, we're being told by the tower that
we can't accept this visual confirmation. We need to track left,
and they did not do so. You could see that
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she did not acknowledge it for fifteen seconds, continued on
her heading in course, and that's when the intercept happened
and when the tragedy occurred. And there's a lot of
questions that come from that, including how somebody can be
in a situation where they don't have an immediate response.
I don't know about you, Jesse, but I don't any
immediate response to orders is what discipline is, and the
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inability to respond in that situation directly led to the
loss of sixty seven lives.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Okay, Jason, this is prompting a lot of conversation, and
a conversation I'm glad we're having about the current culture
inside of the military, and there's a lot that goes
into this. But the truth is, there are a lot
of preferred people inside of our military now through years
of cultural rot and yes, I'm talking about women, attractive women.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
I'm talking about whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
The latest minority of the day is that's attractive to
the Democrat Party. They install officers that incentivize these things,
and there is a culture where you're afraid you can't
criticize people who deserve criticism. There's a lot of that,
and it's a big problem absolutely.
Speaker 7 (33:43):
You know.
Speaker 13 (33:43):
This is one of the things that I remember very
distinctly being at Paris Island, and I remember being with
Mike Platoon ten fifty three. Shout out to Elf Company,
but I remember being with Mike Platoon and we're about
to go through the obstacle course, and I remember the
confidence course. And if you remember those, you look over
to the right, and there was a shorter course, an
obstacle course that had a confidence course that had obstacles
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that were closer together. I didn't have to jump as far.
And I remember asking why, why, what's that one for?
It's for the women. Here's my question. Are we setting
standards for our military members that are just standards across
the board, or are we setting standards that are people
just Hey, you meet the minimum of what a person
of your aptitude, a person of your height is expected
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to do. What matters is here is that when it
come to mission accomplished, but nobody cares. Nobody's going to
lower the walls, someone's going to remove land mines. No
one's going to turn around and change how they function
in wartime. So when we sit here in lower standards,
and you could see that Pete Hags has just put
out the Secretary Defense just put out that they're going
to revamp the standards for medical waivers, and I know
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you're familiar with those as well, where you have people
who are incapable of being deployed, incapable of doing their job,
who are hanging on, you know, to military for whatever
reason to gain a retirement. I'm not really sure if
their recruitment issues, but in the end, you need to
have the best war fighters down range that you could
possibly have. We know that it's bringing that attitude to
the Department Offense, and then we know we're going to
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see those standards start to get applied.
Speaker 7 (35:12):
However, you can see the results.
Speaker 13 (35:13):
In my opinion, and a lot of the result accidents
that happen in commands. You know, you just saw that
command where they would refuse to big backtracking on what
the Secretary of Defense has to say as soon as
they leave, sitting here saying Greenland, and you know, I'm embarrassed.
It's an embarrassment that this is the culture that we've
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gone to in our military. And you know, people have
asked how we can change that.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
I've proffered it.
Speaker 13 (35:38):
I was just asked by Adam Gray, congressman out in California, asked,
what can we do? I said, well, let's stop sending
reserve troops and stop sitting them in hotels every single
time they go to drill for a weekend. Make them
go back to drill centers and put up tents and
bivouac and sit with their troops and put away their phones.
And stop acting like it's just a vacation and that
we know everything is just to support some sort of
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special operator who's down in a cave somewhere, when in reality,
everyone in the military should be ready and able to fight,
and unfortunately that isn't the standard anymore.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Can we fire our way out of this problem?
Speaker 1 (36:12):
And I say this because this is something I'm passionate about.
You and I have had this talk many times before.
I want this cleaned up, I want it fixed. But
it seems like the depth of the problem is unbelievable.
You could start with the academies, and I want to
start with the academies, but it's so far beyond that.
It's down to the lieutenant ranks, it's in the NCO ranks.
It's a very very deep rooted problem at this point
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in time. Can we fire our way out of it?
Speaker 13 (36:39):
My wife pointed something out to me the other day.
She said, you always expect everybody to be perfect.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
I said, that's absolutely not true.
Speaker 13 (36:47):
However, it was instilled in me from day one at
Paris Island that you should strive for perfection at all times,
that if you fail to reach perfection, you can continue
to improve. But in the end, you will do pretty great.
You'll never be perfect. It's impossib to be perfect, but
it's something you should strive for. That's an attitude that
people should have.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
We need a warrior culture.
Speaker 7 (37:05):
Can you fire your way out of this? I think
you could try.
Speaker 13 (37:08):
I think you could turn around and set standards and
immediately start holding people accountable. I'd love to go in
and take a look at the books. Let's look at
how many commanders are fudging the numbers. Let's take a
look at PT standards across the board.
Speaker 7 (37:20):
I'd say outside.
Speaker 13 (37:21):
Of the Marine Corps, you're probably gonna see there's a
lot of fudging. There's a lot of commanders who are
able to move metrics around in order to be green
as a unit, but they're putting aside the actual readiness
of their troops. But I think what you need is
a cultural change, and it isn't just about getting someone
in the top. It's about it's across the board and
we have to get back to our core mission. There's
been a lot of mission creep over the last twenty
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five years. You and I are both aware of this.
As we move to nation building and moved to humanitarian sector.
The military is being used not for its primary purpose.
The primary purpose of our military is to destroy and
break things. It's to kill people. It's to kill people
so that American citizens who are not in the military
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do not die. That is the only intent of the military.
It's to kill people efficiently and as many people as
possible as you intend to kill with this little collateral
damage if you can.
Speaker 7 (38:13):
That's the intent.
Speaker 13 (38:13):
If that's the mission, then you have to ask yourself
whatever we're doing, is it making us a more lethal
force or is it just checking a box or filling
a DII whatever, It doesn't really matter in the end.
Are we changing standards just to try and broaden our
force and make everybody have a Kumbaya moment? Or are
we trying to sit here and destroy our enemies? Because
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it's a very clear distinction between those two things.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
Speaking of the military being used for every different role.
They're down on the border now as well. Pete hag
Seth was talking about the zone and the border here he.
Speaker 10 (38:48):
Was this is Department of Defense property. The National Defense
Area formerly known as the Fort Watchuka annex zone is
federal property. Any illegal attempting to enter that zone is
entering a military base a federal protected area, you can
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be detained. You will be detained. You will be interdicted
by US troops and border patrol working together. If you
are an illegal crossing, you will be monitored. You will
be detained by US troops. You will be detained temporarily
and handed over to customs and Border patrol. If you
have cut through a fence or jumped over a fence,
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that's destruction of government property.
Speaker 8 (39:36):
If you have.
Speaker 10 (39:36):
Attempted to evade, that's evading law enforcement, just like you
would any other military base. You add up the charges
of what you can be charged with, misdemeanors and felonies,
you can be looking up to ten years in prison
when prosecuted.
Speaker 1 (39:52):
Jason, I don't have any problem with anything he just said.
I don't have anything any problem with anything heg Seth
is doing at this point in time. I'm not in
love with the military at the border, though you can
argue that's, you know, maybe its most justified function it's
done in the last twenty years, but that's what we
have border patrol for. And to be honest, I have
a little bit of nerves about a bunch of young
infantry marines down on the border. Someone's going to die
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at some point in time.
Speaker 13 (40:17):
Yeah, So what you're talking about, right there is rules
of engagement ROE, right, So obviously the military operates on
a very different rules of engagement.
Speaker 7 (40:25):
Again, maximum force.
Speaker 13 (40:27):
I have no problem with you, says the United States
Army Corp of Engineers going down and doing building on
the border in conjunction with CBD. As a matter of fact,
that's what they do in the Southwest region and in
the Pacific region. They work hand in hand. And I
understand why certain roles. It makes sense from a budgetary standpoint,
it makes sense from a training standpoint.
Speaker 7 (40:48):
To use those elements. But I agree with you. I
understand why they're doing this. They're plugging holes.
Speaker 13 (40:53):
They're trying to show that they're willing to use maximum
force to protect our border. They're doing it because this
is a response to judicial just idiocy right now, where
everyone is striking down and fighting within what's the basic
job of the president, and they're stopping him from doing that.
So what they're now doing is like we did the
first term, where they turned around and used usay's border
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military funds to put forth the border because everything else
was held up in court. When it comes to discretionary funding.
In this instance, I think it's very similar. You're being
held up by bureaucrats, probably within CPB, you're probably being
held up by funding purse strings by Congress. So this
allows them to do that, to go out there and
put that force and that element on the border. That said,
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I agree with you, I think understanding rules of engagement,
understanding how escalation of force works. You're asking a lot
of eighteen and a half year old who said six
months of training to go down there and interdict on
behalf people who have had instead, you know, years of training.
We're talking about customs and border patrol. And I would
rather see that mission day within that. I don't mind
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the support element aspect of it. I understand why they're
going to do it, but if you're going to do
it in this you have to also say, look, this
is likely going to end in an escalation of force
that has legal outcome.
Speaker 7 (42:12):
There is no other way. As you just pointed out
that it's not going to end in that.
Speaker 2 (42:17):
Faith and I appreciate your brother. Come back soon.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
All right, we're going to talk about throwing like a
girl next. All right, it is time to lighten the mood.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Now, we need to have a talk.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
And this talk may it may hurt you, it may
be offensive. But if it hurts you and it's offensive
in some way, I want you to know I'm saying
what I'm about to say out of love.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Okay, I'm saying it out of love.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
And I've had to have this talk with my own
sons in life and things like that. So let's have
a chat, shall we. Sports. Now, I grew up and
all my friends played sports. I played sports, and I
did to make sure I clarify something I was, and
I remained a terrible athlete, absolutely terrible, uncoordinated, slow, I
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was about that big around. So I'm not telling you
that I was in any way good at sports.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
I was terrible.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
I was always in right field in baseball. I was
okay basketball, but I sucked. Okay, I just I was
a terrible, terrible athlete. But years and years and years
and years and years I played sports.
Speaker 2 (43:42):
And I'm not telling you you have.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
To play sports for years and years and years and
years and years. But as a boy it as a girl,
because it's all kind of women's sports out there now, sadly,
but as a boy and a girl.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
I think it's important that you play, not for years,
maybe a season or two, but.
Speaker 1 (44:04):
If for no other reason you don't want to look
like the governor of Wisconsin who put this video out himself.
Speaker 2 (44:14):
Throwing a ball.
Speaker 12 (44:15):
Go on, Tony, you can't throw like that.
Speaker 1 (44:36):
And if you do throw like that, don't throw that's
about of mine. You can't throw if someone hands you
a football, I need to do something cocky with it,
call a hand off.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
I did something like that. You can't. You can't do that.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Either throw the ball like a man, or don't throw
the ball. Sorry, I just had to get that off
my chest. You need to learn how to throw and catch.
These are critically important skills, all right, A suitable mm
Speaker 9 (45:07):
Hmmm mm hmmmmmm