November 17, 2025 • 37 mins
Over promising and under delivering. Holding powerful people who break the law accountable. Who made up Trump’s coalition. Beware of how many enemies you make.
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Honor Monday that's coming up one hour from now. And
we have so freaking much to get to on a
Monday night. I'm not sure how we're going to do
it all, but here it is. First, the Epstein stuff.
You can't get away from it, and it's going to
dominate the news this week. So we're going to discuss
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this saga a bit at the beginning of the show.
Just gear up for that that's coming up a couple
minutes from now. The guy who tried to blow Donald
Trump's head off the first time, we're finding out more
about him. Very interesting. The Communists commitment to lying all
the time combined with their commitment to illegals. Gavin Newsom
is a dirty creep. The Old Guard and Democrats are
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being tossed out. Why people don't go to the movies anymore? Oh,
that and so much more coming up tonight on the
world famous Jesse Kelly Show. So pull up a chair
for a couple minutes. Let's have a little chat about
what this. It's going to dominate the news cycle this week.
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Jeffrey Epstein, the Epstein files, the Epstein, this, the Epstein that.
All right, So let's rewind quite a way. All right,
We're not going to dig into all the background of
Jeffrey Epstein. We're not even going to dig into the
State Department giving him a mansion back in the day.
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We're not going to dig into him getting a sweetheart
deal back in I believe it was eight under the
Bush administration. Seven OA got a sweetheart deal, got let off,
basically scott free. So we're gonna set that stuff aside
because it's actually not important for what's coming this week.
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But Trump's been saying that's not important. Let's set that aside.
Let's deal with this first. There has always been and
will always be a natural distrust between different peoples. It's
perfectly human tribes, the old Indian tribes. You're a Cherokee,
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he's a Comanchee. Even if you're not fighting at the moment,
what's his angle, There's gonna be a natural distrust there.
There has always been a distrust between the different I
hate saying this word, but you're gonna know what I
mean classes of people. I'm talking about financial class, the elite,
upper classes. They actually hold a lot of distrust for
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poorer people, lower classes, and vice versa. People who don't
have power are going to distrust people who do have it.
So that is just a basic part of human nature.
People without power are distrustful of people who have power.
Perfectly natural, right, nothing wrong with any of that. But
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then you get to a place where we are here
in the United States of America, and that place is
this we have watched for a very long time. I
would actually pull this back to I would say the
Vietnam era. That's when this problem got really bad. The
American citizen has watched time and time again, powerful people, politicians,
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wealthy people either get off completely scott free or get
off with a slap on the wrist when they do
things they know would send them to prison. This is
something that you are angry about. I am angry about
it all the time. So don't think that you're alone.
We're tired of watching powerful people get away with doing
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horrible things. Thus, enters the name Jeffrey Epstein names started
getting out there a whole lot more and five ten
years ago is about I would say ten years ago
is when I really started hearing a lot more of
his name, but he's been out there for a while.
We what is the average person? Not you, you probably know more,
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but what is the average person quote know about Jeffrey Epstein. No,
he was a wealthy guy. We know that he knew
powerful people, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates. But we know that
he ran in big fancy circles, knew very powerful people.
And I realize there are kids listening. He posted events
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parties where underage women were there and paid forced who
knows but doesn't matter, to do bad things. So immediately
the normal human like you, like me, goes, Oh, that's
freaking gross. Who is this pedophile scumbag? That's what the
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normal person, the average person knows, which has always begged
the question, Well, if Jeffrey Epstein's gone, who was doing
bad stuff with him? And our interest in Jeffrey Epstein?
If it was let's say, on a scale of one
to ten, let's say for you or me, it was
at a four or a five a few years ago,
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when he gets arrested and ends up killing himself in
federal custody, when the cameras malfunction and the guards fall asleep,
Now my interests just went from a four to a nine. Now,
now I think, in my tiny little head, in my
tiny little brain, there is at least a chance that wealthy,
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powerful people killed this freaking guy in jail to avoid
him testifying against them. Whether or not that's accurate, I'll
never know, but that's what I think. And I've told
you what I think. I think they talked him in
to kill himself, basically threatened him into killing himself. Hey,
we'll kill your family, something like that. But it doesn't matter,
it doesn't matter what actually happened inside the cell. Will
probably never know. But now my interests got turned way
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up when I find out this rich guy who had
dirt all these people, somehow someway kills himself when the
cameras get turned off. Okay, that brings us to Trump's
run at the presidency. And this is going to go
into the White House. The White House, I'm sure, in
a quiet moment years later, when they start writing books,
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they will admit to this. The White House has mismanaged
the messaging on this terribly. It has been handled terribly
in ways that only stoked the flames. And I'll get
to that. We're going to go through this chronologically. Donald
Trump decides to start running for office again, and things
started happening in the country. Because communists are soulless, evil
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demons who can't control their demonic impulses, they started arresting him.
Now you were already mad about that. I'm mad about that.
But norm and Norma even they thought that was way
too far. All the polling showed this, not just his primary,
his general election chances went through the roof. When Democrats
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kept arresting him. Normis looked at that and thought, ooh,
that's snow. That's an abuse of power. That's too far.
We reject that. Think about how almost nonsensical it is
that the president of the United States of America had
felony charges during the campaign. The American people sniffed that
out for what it was and said no. And so,
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at least in part, in a variety of ways, Trump's
election the first time, indefinitely the second time was a
rejection of the powerful, which sounds weird, especially when you're
talking about the second Trump election. He's a former president,
he's a billionaire. What do you mean he's not powerful.
It's not that. Part of the Trump coalition was people
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coming together and rejecting what they viewed as a corrupt,
evil administration. That was the Democrats under Joe Biden, and
it was corrupted. The evil. Part of the Trump appeal
was we are not of that, We are not of
the swamp. We are going to drain the swamp. And
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part of the appeal for people was the Epstein stuff
and everything else. And it looked like wealthy, powerful people
were once again covering for each other and covering for themselves,
and we were sick of it. That's why I lock
her up, in reference to Hillary Clinton, was heard at
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every Trump campaign rally the first time, and that's why
drain the Swamp was wildly popular in both campaigns. To
this day, people talk about it. It's on people's minds.
It's on my mind. Maybe it's on your mind too.
We want wealthy, powerful people held to account, not worse
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than you or me. How about the same, we'll start there.
How about the same no statute to limitations. Sorry that
expired because we slow rolled it. No, hey, my two
thousand dollars an hour. His attorney is going to get
me off with five hours of community service for something
you go to prison for for ten years. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no more of that somebody take the powerful people who
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are abusing less powerful people and hold them to account.
That made up, at least in part, some of Trump's coalition.
It wasn't the main part. We'll actually get to the
main part. We're gonna talk inflation immigration later on in
the show. But that did make up some of the coalition.
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And Trump had been asked about it on the campaign
trail and said, yeah, release it, no big deal. Then
that brings us to how it was handled or mishandled.
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kellyshow dot com. So that was kind of just laying
out at the very beginning because the look Epstein, just
get used to it. He's going to dominate the headlines
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this week with the votes coming and whatnot. But we're
kind of going through this chronologically before we analyze how
we get here and the yo yo's from Trump. Okay,
So we laid out Donald Trump's election. A lot of
it was a rejection of people in power. He was
viewed as being well he even said it on the
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campaign trail. I'm gonna be your revenge. I'm gonna be
the one that holds these people accountable. And he was
asked while he was campaigning about it. Now, listen to
what he says and how tepid is a great word, Chris,
I learned that in community college. Listen to how tepid
he is when he says, yeah, sure, I'm releasing.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
It's just very strange for a lot of people that
the list of clients that went to the island has
not been made public.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't It Probably will be, by the.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Way, So if you're able to, you'll be.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Yeah, certainly take a look at it now, Kennedy's interesting
because it's so many years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know, they do that for danger too, because danger.
I'm believing I'm about to criticize how the White House
has handled this, But you heard what he just said. Yeah,
I mean, I guess I do that. You got to
be careful with how old some stuff is. And Okay,
so before I continue on, and I am going to
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criticize them, believe me. But before I continue on, I
want to explain something. I think it's really important. We
all get really important before this House vote and the
Senate vote, and the files get dumped out there and
whatever files we get. And before all that stuff comes,
which we'll get to in a little bit, remember that
we love to simplify things I do and you do.
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It makes life easier to understand. We all have jobs
and to well, you have a job. I don't have
a job, but we have the job. And too much
going on in family and kids, in sports and church,
and there's just too much. So we want everything to
be simple issues politicians. We want it to make it
easily digestible for me. So, Epstein, what do we want?
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I'll tell you right now what I want. Here's what
I want. I'm holding a piece of paper in my hands.
I want a piece of paper with Jeffrey Epstein's bad
associates on it. And I want it on a piece
of paper. If it has to be one hundred pieces,
that's fine. I want you to tell me who the
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bad men are, what specifically they did with Jeffrey Epstein,
and if you'd like, you can add a piece of
paper with how they're going to be criminally prosecuted. That's
what I would like. And when we say use terms
like the Epstein list. What it does is it reinforces
in the minds of people that that is a thing
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that exists. Well, there's a list, right, surely he kept
the list, but who does that. That's not how it works.
What do we have. Here's what we have, flight logs,
no question. Jeffrey Epstein is a billionaire private jets, So
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you have to give your name and date of birth
whenever you're flying on a private jet. Have had to
do it two three times. Hey, they'll text me, Hey,
what's your name and date of birth? And I always
forget they need that for the flight logs. You take
a ride on someone's private jet, you're on the flight log.
But like we've discussed before, flying on Jeffrey Epstein's private
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jet is not a crime. Remember we know Trump brought
up Kennedy there. RFK came out and said, and we've
had other people confirm this. RFK Junior and his wife
and I believe his children flew on Jeffrey Epstein's jet
as what basically amounts to a favor. RFK was going
somewhere and runs into Jeffrey Epstein, and Epstein says, well, hey,
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you want to ride, and who in the world I
don't know about you, but I don't turn down very
many private air travel offers. And RFK says, well, sure,
and him and his whole family hop on there. He
wasn't flying down to the Virgin Islands at Pedophile Palace
or anything else. He's on that flight log, so okay,
So just being on the flight log doesn't mean he
did anything wrong. What else will How many financial documents
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are there going to be? But again, are there going
to be bad guys in there? Of course there are
are there going to be good guys in there. Jeffrey
Epstein's billionaire was a billionaire. How many people did he
do business with who weren't criminals at all? Pablo Escobar
did a lot of business with a lot of very
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legitimate businessmen, al Capone, do you understand what I mean?
Just being tied to his bank account? That doesn't make
me a criminal. So then there's that we don't I
don't believe. Let me go get this out of the way.
I do not believe if this thing passes, and I
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think it will and we are the Justice Department is
ordered to release all these documents, I do not believe
that we are going to get something that satisfies you.
I think it's going to be a dud, a disappointment,
and I think it's actually going to raise as much
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suspicion as it alleviates. And it's going to do that
because they're going to redact a bunch of crap from it. Now,
what are they going to redact? Well, victims' names will
be redacted, but there will be more than victims' names.
You and I both know, or at least we suspect
that Jeffrey Epstein either worked with a CIA or FBI,
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So there are going to be names of sources they
don't want to burn that. The things they're going to
react or redact, they're going to create more suspicion in me,
in you they are. I'm admitting it right now. As
soon as these documents drop, we're both gonna go, wait
a minute, what was it? What was on here? Hold
on a minute. So that's where we're at. Now, let's
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talk about the the kind of whiplash we've seen in
the mishandling of this from the Trump administration. Next, he
doesn't care if you believe him, but he's right.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Jesse Kelly, It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful,
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An hour from now, we're gonna bring in Darby shortly, well,
I guess in an hour we're gonna bring in Darby
and he's going to discuss the riots we've been seeing
in Mexico City. Is it a revolution. We'll check on
that in a little bit. But back to what we
were discussing. That was the ft Epstein's stuff, that was
the lead up to it. Then Trump administration gets in there,
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Pam Bondi gets in there, Cash Mattel gets in there. Well,
now now the people who wanted some level of accountability
now they want these things. Now they're crying out. It
was not fake. It was not a small thing for them.
It may have never been a big deal to Trump,
who obviously just doesn't care about it or does care
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about it, which we'll debate here in a moment. But
either he doesn't care about it and he very much,
or he does. He want to keep it quiet, he
wants to move on, but the public doesn't want to
move on. Now we go to the mishaps. Pambondy and
you know about my problems with Pambondy. I'm skeptical that
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she's going to put powerful people in prison and all that,
but that actually is not clouding when I'm about to
say here, I do not have an important job. I'm
a radio host. That means I can come on here
and I can I can have missteps with how I speak.
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In fact, I do every single day. I'm sure you
hear them in my community college education or just my
naturally offensive ways. I can do that, and I can
do that every day because I'm a radio host. But
Pam Bondi is not a radio host. She is the
top law enforcement officer in the United States of America.
She is the Attorney General. So me misspeaking, it's a
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little deal. I'm not gonna get in trouble. I won't
even get a text in the boss. They don't care.
They know who I am. Pam Bondy going on Fox
News and saying this is a big deal. The DOJ
may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Well,
that really happened.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
It's sitting on my desk right now.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
To review.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
What There are two things that happened there. Remember what
I just said before about the idea of there being
a list. Surely there's an Excel spreadsheet, a piece of
paper where every bad guy is listed and named, and
his crimes are named too. But that's ridiculous. People don't
do that. Now. What happens here is the host I'm
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not insulting them, and don't even know who he is.
It was on Fox News. The host uses that term list,
and he hands that term to her. But what he says,
in combination with what she says, leads you to believe
in me, to believe that we are about to see
a list, a list that I don't think exists. Doj
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may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Well
that really happened.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's sitting on my desk right now.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
To review.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
That. Sure sounds to me like you've got a piece
of paper on your desk, now, She later on after
catch and some heat, said, well, it's a file. I
haven't looked at it yet. But that wasn't the video
that that went out there. And then then we were promised,
we were promised, what about what about any of the
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other evidence? He supposedly took pictures of everything and video
and everything. Now you just said the files on your desk,
but then we can't release it, Dan, you went to
the media and.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Said this, sure, sure. First to back up on that,
in February, I did an interview on Fox and it's
been getting a lot of attention because I said, I
was asking a question about the client list, and my
response was it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed,
meaning the file along with the JFK MLK files as well.
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That's what I meant by that. Also, to the tens
of thousands of video they turned out to be child
porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is
what they were never going to be released, never going
to see the lighted day.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Okay, maybe that's legit. I don't know. You don't know.
We haven't seen it. You haven't seen it, and I
haven't seen it. Maybe that is one hundred percent legit.
Maybe it was hideous child pornography that they're not going
to release. Maybe it's videos of former presidents doing things
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they'd rather the public not see. Maybe maybe maybe don't.
I don't know and you don't know. But one thing
I've learned in my forty four years life doesn't exist
in a vacuum. If I have maybe inadvertently had salted
my wife once or twice that day, said ah, did
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it was a little too salty. Not a big fan
of that shirt. The next thing out of my mouth
should probably be something nice, not a it's a little
dusty in the house. If you're Pam Bondy and the
public is already getting angry and suspicious about the fact
that we can't look at the files yet saying sorry,
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nothing I can do. It's child porn. We'll never release.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
It doesn't sound good, doesn't look good, It looks evasive,
it looks like you're covering things up, and that from
that it led into this, which you obviously remember.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Trump started to I don't want to say jump on
a grenade for Pam Bondi, but it almost seemed that way.
It almost seemed as if he was protecting her when
she was asked about it, and telling everyone shut up
and move on, to.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Be a smoke screen to block the leave them more files.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
The thing, well, I don't want to talk about it
because fake news like you you're a terrible reporter, okay,
and this.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
It are you still talking about Jeffrey and Epstein. This
guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas,
we have this, we have all of the things, and
are people still talking about this guy. That's creepy, That
is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
The whole thing is a hoax. They ran the files.
I was running against somebody that ran the files. If
they had something, they would have released. Now they can
easily put something into files. That's a phony. But it's
really a Democrat hoax because they're trying to get people
to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Oh, is it something democrats are currently using to try
to hurt the Trump administration? There's no question about it.
Is there a chance there is fake information in those files?
No question. Is there a chance there's false information that
was always in the files? You know, there's always a
fake victim who comes forward and claims something just out
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of looking for money or something like that. Of course,
all this, all these are possibilities, but it looks bad.
It looks bad. And now you have guys who have
influence platform big platforms followings Joe Rogan Andrew Schultz. A
couple of snippets from their shows.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
They're not that please, They've got videotape and then all
of a sudden, they don't you know, you have the
director of the FBI on the show saying, there's no tape,
there was nothing you're looking for is on those tapes?
Like what? Why'd they say there was thousands of hours
of tapes of people doing horrible Why did they say that?
Didn't Pam Bondi say that?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
What are talking aboute or did?
Speaker 9 (26:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Epstein?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, she said it literally. I think a week before
you had the FBI director sitting here telling you there
was nothing right.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
She said something about that there was like thousands of
hours of tapes of people doing horrible crime.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
There is And didn't the FBI dude say that there
was nothing?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Cash Betelsa, there's nothing you look for. Oh okay, you
know what I should have done.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
It's like if I wanted to vote for somebody who
was gonna end the foreign wars, who is going to
increase the budget, and who is gonna you know, it's
just just silenced the Epstein files and throw it away.
I should have just voted for Kamala right because she
was gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay, look bad, some people are mad. And then it
actually went from bad to worse because it got personal
between Trump and Thomas Massey, and we'll play the results
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He doesn't care if you believe him, but he's right,
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those at some point Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Now,
that was the Epstein background in everything that went with it.
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But then something else happened, and well, this is a
good lesson for you and me in life. And this
is something that I've screwed up enough to know it's
a very good lesson. I think someone else said this first,
but I will take credit for it, because that's what
I do, steal credit for other people's work. You don't
have to make friends with everybody, but be careful how
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many enemies you make. You don't have to make friends
with everybody, but be careful how many enemies you make you.
Remember when Trump was trying to get the One Big
Beautiful Bill, that's what he called it. Remember when he
was trying to get it passed, and it was going
to be a tough slog. We had a revery thin majority,
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and he wanted it passed, even though there was all
kinds of horrible stuff in it. He wanted it passed
because it gave him the money for ice that he
wanted for mass deportations. He had a policy thing he wanted,
He got it in there, and that's why he wanted
it passed. And that brought him head to head with
Thomas Massey, a Congressman from Kentucky who's an infamous spending hawk.
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He doesn't like these big spending bills. He's always voting
against them, always ranting against them. And Massy said, no, no, no, no,
this thing sucks. This thing spends too much money. This
is bad, This is bad, this is bad. Trump starts
to get very angry and publicly angry at Thomas Massey,
started to publicly blast Thomas Massey and up to the
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point of promising to primary Thomas Massey out of Congress.
Thomas Massey, having now had war declared on him, has
declared war back. Understands that Donald Trump doesn't want people
talking about Epstein, and so he decided he was going
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to interview Cash Mattel.
Speaker 11 (31:33):
These documents in FBI Possession Your Possession detail at least
twenty men, including mister Jess Staley, CEO of Barkley's Bank,
who Jeffrey Epstein trafficked victims to victims including minors such
as Virginia Roberts You free, May she rest in peace.
That list also includes at least nineteen other individuals, one
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Hollywood producer worth a few hundred million dollar, one royal prince,
one high profile individual in the music industry, one very
prominent banker, one high profile government official, one high profile
former politician, one owner of a car company in Italy,
one rock star, one magician, at least six billionaires, including
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a billionaire from Canada.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
We know these.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
People exist in the FBI files, the files that you control.
I don't know exactly who they are, but the FBI does.
Have you launched any investigations into any of these people?
Speaker 11 (32:32):
And have you seen these three h two documents, sir?
Speaker 9 (32:36):
I have asked my FBI agents to review the entirety
of the Epstein files and bring forth any credible information.
And we're working with Congress on and who develows that
information and produce it to you. But any investigations that
arise from any credible investigation will be brought There have
been no new materials brought to me launching a new indictment.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Now Massi's an enemy, and now he's making you look
bad publicly on purpose. And by the way, we don't
know any of the names, not on the names. I
don't know. Are these guys criminals? Again, I don't know,
and you don't know. We won't know. No one will
tell us. But now it all looks very, very bad. Now,
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it looks shady, looks like you're covering something up. It
looks bad from the Trump administration standpoint. Maybe there is
a bunch of old bunk information in there, false accusations
in there. Maybe you're just trying to move on because
you know it is a distraction. Maybe, and we do
have to consider this possibility. Maybe there is somebody who's
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being protected. No, I do not believe it's Donald Trump.
There's been no accusation that Donald Trump did anything wrong.
By now, any accusation like that would have been brought forward.
It would have been exposed long ago, very clearly. Donald
Trump did not do anything wrong with Jeffrey Epstein. So
I'm not saying Trump, I'm not I'm not saying that.
In fact, I'm saying quite the opposite. But maybe it's
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someone else. I don't know, but I know that in
the next four or five days, because this is going
to last through the weekend. I promise you it is.
That's why I decided to do this long talk in
the coming days. Epstein, but the Epstein list and Epstein
files and what do you know? And what did he know?
And who did what? But it is going to be endless,
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absolutely endless. And we are a people. We are suspicious
already long before. If you took Epstein's name out of it,
if you took all these crimes out of it, I'm
suspicious of all these freaking people, every one of them,
all of them, because we've watched over and over and
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over again, these people getting away with horrible things, things
you would never get away with, and I would never
get away with. Now you so in years of eppste shadiness,
it just looks shady. It doesn't look right. It looks
like there are definitely some sort of government connections of
some kind. It looks bad. We are already very suspicious
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of this. And I'm warning you now, I told you earlier.
I want to repeat myself. Do not think for a
second if all this stuff comes out, Bill passes and
everything and it all gets exposed, do not think that
you're going to get some sort of a Finally, we
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know everything moment that's not gonna happen. They're gonna find
a way to lie. They'll be endless propaganda campaigns from
both sides about it, trying to suss out who did
what wrong with who is going to be a tough
errand we will do the best we can. I'm gonna
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do it, You're gonna do it. We'll do the best
we can. But it's gonna be week. Now. Let's get
off of this freaking Epstein stuff and talk about medal
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I'm dreading it. But there was your primer getting ready
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we have so freaking much to get to on a
Monday night. I'm not sure how we're going to do
it all, but here it is. First, the Epstein stuff.
You can't get away from it, and it's going to
dominate the news this week. So we're going to discuss
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Just gear up for that that's coming up a couple
minutes from now. The guy who tried to blow Donald
Trump's head off the first time, we're finding out more
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the time combined with their commitment to illegals. Gavin Newsom
is a dirty creep. The Old Guard and Democrats are
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being tossed out. Why people don't go to the movies anymore? Oh,
that and so much more coming up tonight on the
world famous Jesse Kelly Show. So pull up a chair
for a couple minutes. Let's have a little chat about
what this. It's going to dominate the news cycle this week.
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Jeffrey Epstein, the Epstein files, the Epstein, this, the Epstein that.
All right, So let's rewind quite a way. All right,
We're not going to dig into all the background of
Jeffrey Epstein. We're not even going to dig into the
State Department giving him a mansion back in the day.
(01:56):
We're not going to dig into him getting a sweetheart
deal back in I believe it was eight under the
Bush administration. Seven OA got a sweetheart deal, got let off,
basically scott free. So we're gonna set that stuff aside
because it's actually not important for what's coming this week.
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But Trump's been saying that's not important. Let's set that aside.
Let's deal with this first. There has always been and
will always be a natural distrust between different peoples. It's
perfectly human tribes, the old Indian tribes. You're a Cherokee,
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he's a Comanchee. Even if you're not fighting at the moment,
what's his angle, There's gonna be a natural distrust there.
There has always been a distrust between the different I
hate saying this word, but you're gonna know what I
mean classes of people. I'm talking about financial class, the elite,
upper classes. They actually hold a lot of distrust for
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poorer people, lower classes, and vice versa. People who don't
have power are going to distrust people who do have it.
So that is just a basic part of human nature.
People without power are distrustful of people who have power.
Perfectly natural, right, nothing wrong with any of that. But
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then you get to a place where we are here
in the United States of America, and that place is
this we have watched for a very long time. I
would actually pull this back to I would say the
Vietnam era. That's when this problem got really bad. The
American citizen has watched time and time again, powerful people, politicians,
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wealthy people either get off completely scott free or get
off with a slap on the wrist when they do
things they know would send them to prison. This is
something that you are angry about. I am angry about
it all the time. So don't think that you're alone.
We're tired of watching powerful people get away with doing
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horrible things. Thus, enters the name Jeffrey Epstein names started
getting out there a whole lot more and five ten
years ago is about I would say ten years ago
is when I really started hearing a lot more of
his name, but he's been out there for a while.
We what is the average person? Not you, you probably know more,
(04:33):
but what is the average person quote know about Jeffrey Epstein. No,
he was a wealthy guy. We know that he knew
powerful people, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates. But we know that
he ran in big fancy circles, knew very powerful people.
And I realize there are kids listening. He posted events
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parties where underage women were there and paid forced who
knows but doesn't matter, to do bad things. So immediately
the normal human like you, like me, goes, Oh, that's
freaking gross. Who is this pedophile scumbag? That's what the
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normal person, the average person knows, which has always begged
the question, Well, if Jeffrey Epstein's gone, who was doing
bad stuff with him? And our interest in Jeffrey Epstein?
If it was let's say, on a scale of one
to ten, let's say for you or me, it was
at a four or a five a few years ago,
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when he gets arrested and ends up killing himself in
federal custody, when the cameras malfunction and the guards fall asleep,
Now my interests just went from a four to a nine. Now,
now I think, in my tiny little head, in my
tiny little brain, there is at least a chance that wealthy,
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powerful people killed this freaking guy in jail to avoid
him testifying against them. Whether or not that's accurate, I'll
never know, but that's what I think. And I've told
you what I think. I think they talked him in
to kill himself, basically threatened him into killing himself. Hey,
we'll kill your family, something like that. But it doesn't matter,
it doesn't matter what actually happened inside the cell. Will
probably never know. But now my interests got turned way
(06:31):
up when I find out this rich guy who had
dirt all these people, somehow someway kills himself when the
cameras get turned off. Okay, that brings us to Trump's
run at the presidency. And this is going to go
into the White House. The White House, I'm sure, in
a quiet moment years later, when they start writing books,
(06:53):
they will admit to this. The White House has mismanaged
the messaging on this terribly. It has been handled terribly
in ways that only stoked the flames. And I'll get
to that. We're going to go through this chronologically. Donald
Trump decides to start running for office again, and things
started happening in the country. Because communists are soulless, evil
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demons who can't control their demonic impulses, they started arresting him.
Now you were already mad about that. I'm mad about that.
But norm and Norma even they thought that was way
too far. All the polling showed this, not just his primary,
his general election chances went through the roof. When Democrats
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kept arresting him. Normis looked at that and thought, ooh,
that's snow. That's an abuse of power. That's too far.
We reject that. Think about how almost nonsensical it is
that the president of the United States of America had
felony charges during the campaign. The American people sniffed that
out for what it was and said no. And so,
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at least in part, in a variety of ways, Trump's
election the first time, indefinitely the second time was a
rejection of the powerful, which sounds weird, especially when you're
talking about the second Trump election. He's a former president,
he's a billionaire. What do you mean he's not powerful.
It's not that. Part of the Trump coalition was people
(08:27):
coming together and rejecting what they viewed as a corrupt,
evil administration. That was the Democrats under Joe Biden, and
it was corrupted. The evil. Part of the Trump appeal
was we are not of that, We are not of
the swamp. We are going to drain the swamp. And
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part of the appeal for people was the Epstein stuff
and everything else. And it looked like wealthy, powerful people
were once again covering for each other and covering for themselves,
and we were sick of it. That's why I lock
her up, in reference to Hillary Clinton, was heard at
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every Trump campaign rally the first time, and that's why
drain the Swamp was wildly popular in both campaigns. To
this day, people talk about it. It's on people's minds.
It's on my mind. Maybe it's on your mind too.
We want wealthy, powerful people held to account, not worse
(09:33):
than you or me. How about the same, we'll start there.
How about the same no statute to limitations. Sorry that
expired because we slow rolled it. No, hey, my two
thousand dollars an hour. His attorney is going to get
me off with five hours of community service for something
you go to prison for for ten years. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
no more of that somebody take the powerful people who
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are abusing less powerful people and hold them to account.
That made up, at least in part, some of Trump's coalition.
It wasn't the main part. We'll actually get to the
main part. We're gonna talk inflation immigration later on in
the show. But that did make up some of the coalition.
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And Trump had been asked about it on the campaign
trail and said, yeah, release it, no big deal. Then
that brings us to how it was handled or mishandled.
Before we get to the mishandling, let's talk about something
soft and wonderful. In fact, I had to experience one
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You're listening to the Jesse Kelly Show.
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You're welcome. It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful,
fantastic Monday. Remember you can email us Jesse at Jesse
kellyshow dot com. So that was kind of just laying
out at the very beginning because the look Epstein, just
get used to it. He's going to dominate the headlines
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this week with the votes coming and whatnot. But we're
kind of going through this chronologically before we analyze how
we get here and the yo yo's from Trump. Okay,
So we laid out Donald Trump's election. A lot of
it was a rejection of people in power. He was
viewed as being well he even said it on the
(12:24):
campaign trail. I'm gonna be your revenge. I'm gonna be
the one that holds these people accountable. And he was
asked while he was campaigning about it. Now, listen to
what he says and how tepid is a great word, Chris,
I learned that in community college. Listen to how tepid
he is when he says, yeah, sure, I'm releasing.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
It's just very strange for a lot of people that
the list of clients that went to the island has
not been made public.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Yeah, it's very interesting, isn't It Probably will be, by the.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Way, So if you're able to, you'll be.
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Yeah, certainly take a look at it now, Kennedy's interesting
because it's so many years ago.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know, they do that for danger too, because danger.
I'm believing I'm about to criticize how the White House
has handled this, But you heard what he just said. Yeah,
I mean, I guess I do that. You got to
be careful with how old some stuff is. And Okay,
so before I continue on, and I am going to
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criticize them, believe me. But before I continue on, I
want to explain something. I think it's really important. We
all get really important before this House vote and the
Senate vote, and the files get dumped out there and
whatever files we get. And before all that stuff comes,
which we'll get to in a little bit, remember that
we love to simplify things I do and you do.
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It makes life easier to understand. We all have jobs
and to well, you have a job. I don't have
a job, but we have the job. And too much
going on in family and kids, in sports and church,
and there's just too much. So we want everything to
be simple issues politicians. We want it to make it
easily digestible for me. So, Epstein, what do we want?
(14:18):
I'll tell you right now what I want. Here's what
I want. I'm holding a piece of paper in my hands.
I want a piece of paper with Jeffrey Epstein's bad
associates on it. And I want it on a piece
of paper. If it has to be one hundred pieces,
that's fine. I want you to tell me who the
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bad men are, what specifically they did with Jeffrey Epstein,
and if you'd like, you can add a piece of
paper with how they're going to be criminally prosecuted. That's
what I would like. And when we say use terms
like the Epstein list. What it does is it reinforces
in the minds of people that that is a thing
(15:02):
that exists. Well, there's a list, right, surely he kept
the list, but who does that. That's not how it works.
What do we have. Here's what we have, flight logs,
no question. Jeffrey Epstein is a billionaire private jets, So
(15:24):
you have to give your name and date of birth
whenever you're flying on a private jet. Have had to
do it two three times. Hey, they'll text me, Hey,
what's your name and date of birth? And I always
forget they need that for the flight logs. You take
a ride on someone's private jet, you're on the flight log.
But like we've discussed before, flying on Jeffrey Epstein's private
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jet is not a crime. Remember we know Trump brought
up Kennedy there. RFK came out and said, and we've
had other people confirm this. RFK Junior and his wife
and I believe his children flew on Jeffrey Epstein's jet
as what basically amounts to a favor. RFK was going
somewhere and runs into Jeffrey Epstein, and Epstein says, well, hey,
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you want to ride, and who in the world I
don't know about you, but I don't turn down very
many private air travel offers. And RFK says, well, sure,
and him and his whole family hop on there. He
wasn't flying down to the Virgin Islands at Pedophile Palace
or anything else. He's on that flight log, so okay,
So just being on the flight log doesn't mean he
did anything wrong. What else will How many financial documents
(16:31):
are there going to be? But again, are there going
to be bad guys in there? Of course there are
are there going to be good guys in there. Jeffrey
Epstein's billionaire was a billionaire. How many people did he
do business with who weren't criminals at all? Pablo Escobar
did a lot of business with a lot of very
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legitimate businessmen, al Capone, do you understand what I mean?
Just being tied to his bank account? That doesn't make
me a criminal. So then there's that we don't I
don't believe. Let me go get this out of the way.
I do not believe if this thing passes, and I
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think it will and we are the Justice Department is
ordered to release all these documents, I do not believe
that we are going to get something that satisfies you.
I think it's going to be a dud, a disappointment,
and I think it's actually going to raise as much
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suspicion as it alleviates. And it's going to do that
because they're going to redact a bunch of crap from it. Now,
what are they going to redact? Well, victims' names will
be redacted, but there will be more than victims' names.
You and I both know, or at least we suspect
that Jeffrey Epstein either worked with a CIA or FBI,
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So there are going to be names of sources they
don't want to burn that. The things they're going to
react or redact, they're going to create more suspicion in me,
in you they are. I'm admitting it right now. As
soon as these documents drop, we're both gonna go, wait
a minute, what was it? What was on here? Hold
on a minute. So that's where we're at. Now, let's
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talk about the the kind of whiplash we've seen in
the mishandling of this from the Trump administration. Next, he
doesn't care if you believe him, but he's right.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
Jesse Kelly, It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful,
wonderful Monday, A Medal of Honor Monday, that's coming up
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Speaker 1 (18:40):
An hour from now, we're gonna bring in Darby shortly, well,
I guess in an hour we're gonna bring in Darby
and he's going to discuss the riots we've been seeing
in Mexico City. Is it a revolution. We'll check on
that in a little bit. But back to what we
were discussing. That was the ft Epstein's stuff, that was
the lead up to it. Then Trump administration gets in there,
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Pam Bondi gets in there, Cash Mattel gets in there. Well,
now now the people who wanted some level of accountability
now they want these things. Now they're crying out. It
was not fake. It was not a small thing for them.
It may have never been a big deal to Trump,
who obviously just doesn't care about it or does care
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about it, which we'll debate here in a moment. But
either he doesn't care about it and he very much,
or he does. He want to keep it quiet, he
wants to move on, but the public doesn't want to
move on. Now we go to the mishaps. Pambondy and
you know about my problems with Pambondy. I'm skeptical that
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she's going to put powerful people in prison and all that,
but that actually is not clouding when I'm about to
say here, I do not have an important job. I'm
a radio host. That means I can come on here
and I can I can have missteps with how I speak.
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In fact, I do every single day. I'm sure you
hear them in my community college education or just my
naturally offensive ways. I can do that, and I can
do that every day because I'm a radio host. But
Pam Bondi is not a radio host. She is the
top law enforcement officer in the United States of America.
She is the Attorney General. So me misspeaking, it's a
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little deal. I'm not gonna get in trouble. I won't
even get a text in the boss. They don't care.
They know who I am. Pam Bondy going on Fox
News and saying this is a big deal. The DOJ
may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Well,
that really happened.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
It's sitting on my desk right now.
Speaker 7 (20:54):
To review.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
What There are two things that happened there. Remember what
I just said before about the idea of there being
a list. Surely there's an Excel spreadsheet, a piece of
paper where every bad guy is listed and named, and
his crimes are named too. But that's ridiculous. People don't
do that. Now. What happens here is the host I'm
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not insulting them, and don't even know who he is.
It was on Fox News. The host uses that term list,
and he hands that term to her. But what he says,
in combination with what she says, leads you to believe
in me, to believe that we are about to see
a list, a list that I don't think exists. Doj
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may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Well
that really happened.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
It's sitting on my desk right now.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
To review.
Speaker 1 (21:53):
That. Sure sounds to me like you've got a piece
of paper on your desk, now, She later on after
catch and some heat, said, well, it's a file. I
haven't looked at it yet. But that wasn't the video
that that went out there. And then then we were promised,
we were promised, what about what about any of the
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other evidence? He supposedly took pictures of everything and video
and everything. Now you just said the files on your desk,
but then we can't release it, Dan, you went to
the media and.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Said this, sure, sure. First to back up on that,
in February, I did an interview on Fox and it's
been getting a lot of attention because I said, I
was asking a question about the client list, and my
response was it's sitting on my desk to be reviewed,
meaning the file along with the JFK MLK files as well.
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That's what I meant by that. Also, to the tens
of thousands of video they turned out to be child
porn downloaded by that disgusting Jeffrey Epstein. Child porn is
what they were never going to be released, never going
to see the lighted day.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Okay, maybe that's legit. I don't know. You don't know.
We haven't seen it. You haven't seen it, and I
haven't seen it. Maybe that is one hundred percent legit.
Maybe it was hideous child pornography that they're not going
to release. Maybe it's videos of former presidents doing things
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they'd rather the public not see. Maybe maybe maybe don't.
I don't know and you don't know. But one thing
I've learned in my forty four years life doesn't exist
in a vacuum. If I have maybe inadvertently had salted
my wife once or twice that day, said ah, did
(23:50):
it was a little too salty. Not a big fan
of that shirt. The next thing out of my mouth
should probably be something nice, not a it's a little
dusty in the house. If you're Pam Bondy and the
public is already getting angry and suspicious about the fact
that we can't look at the files yet saying sorry,
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nothing I can do. It's child porn. We'll never release.
Speaker 7 (24:17):
It doesn't sound good, doesn't look good, It looks evasive,
it looks like you're covering things up, and that from
that it led into this, which you obviously remember.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Trump started to I don't want to say jump on
a grenade for Pam Bondi, but it almost seemed that way.
It almost seemed as if he was protecting her when
she was asked about it, and telling everyone shut up
and move on, to.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Be a smoke screen to block the leave them more files.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
The thing, well, I don't want to talk about it
because fake news like you you're a terrible reporter, okay,
and this.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (25:15):
It are you still talking about Jeffrey and Epstein. This
guy's been talked about for years. You're asking, we have Texas,
we have this, we have all of the things, and
are people still talking about this guy. That's creepy, That
is unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (25:32):
The whole thing is a hoax. They ran the files.
I was running against somebody that ran the files. If
they had something, they would have released. Now they can
easily put something into files. That's a phony. But it's
really a Democrat hoax because they're trying to get people
to talk about it.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Oh, is it something democrats are currently using to try
to hurt the Trump administration? There's no question about it.
Is there a chance there is fake information in those files?
No question. Is there a chance there's false information that
was always in the files? You know, there's always a
fake victim who comes forward and claims something just out
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of looking for money or something like that. Of course,
all this, all these are possibilities, but it looks bad.
It looks bad. And now you have guys who have
influence platform big platforms followings Joe Rogan Andrew Schultz. A
couple of snippets from their shows.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
They're not that please, They've got videotape and then all
of a sudden, they don't you know, you have the
director of the FBI on the show saying, there's no tape,
there was nothing you're looking for is on those tapes?
Like what? Why'd they say there was thousands of hours
of tapes of people doing horrible Why did they say that?
Didn't Pam Bondi say that?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
What are talking aboute or did?
Speaker 9 (26:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (26:59):
Epstein?
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Yeah, she said it literally. I think a week before
you had the FBI director sitting here telling you there
was nothing right.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
She said something about that there was like thousands of
hours of tapes of people doing horrible crime.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
There is And didn't the FBI dude say that there
was nothing?
Speaker 3 (27:14):
Cash Betelsa, there's nothing you look for. Oh okay, you
know what I should have done.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
It's like if I wanted to vote for somebody who
was gonna end the foreign wars, who is going to
increase the budget, and who is gonna you know, it's
just just silenced the Epstein files and throw it away.
I should have just voted for Kamala right because she
was gonna do that.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay, look bad, some people are mad. And then it
actually went from bad to worse because it got personal
between Trump and Thomas Massey, and we'll play the results
of that next, and then we'll finally get out of
here do some medal of honor stuff and emails and
(27:58):
other things before we do any of that. So, I
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Speaker 3 (29:11):
He doesn't care if you believe him, but he's right,
Jesse Kelly.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful Monday.
Gonna get to medal of Honor Monday about ten minutes
from now. You can email me. I will get to
those at some point Jesse at Jesse kellyshow dot com. Now,
that was the Epstein background in everything that went with it.
(29:39):
But then something else happened, and well, this is a
good lesson for you and me in life. And this
is something that I've screwed up enough to know it's
a very good lesson. I think someone else said this first,
but I will take credit for it, because that's what
I do, steal credit for other people's work. You don't
have to make friends with everybody, but be careful how
(30:03):
many enemies you make. You don't have to make friends
with everybody, but be careful how many enemies you make you.
Remember when Trump was trying to get the One Big
Beautiful Bill, that's what he called it. Remember when he
was trying to get it passed, and it was going
to be a tough slog. We had a revery thin majority,
(30:24):
and he wanted it passed, even though there was all
kinds of horrible stuff in it. He wanted it passed
because it gave him the money for ice that he
wanted for mass deportations. He had a policy thing he wanted,
He got it in there, and that's why he wanted
it passed. And that brought him head to head with
Thomas Massey, a Congressman from Kentucky who's an infamous spending hawk.
(30:47):
He doesn't like these big spending bills. He's always voting
against them, always ranting against them. And Massy said, no, no, no, no,
this thing sucks. This thing spends too much money. This
is bad, This is bad, this is bad. Trump starts
to get very angry and publicly angry at Thomas Massey,
started to publicly blast Thomas Massey and up to the
(31:09):
point of promising to primary Thomas Massey out of Congress.
Thomas Massey, having now had war declared on him, has
declared war back. Understands that Donald Trump doesn't want people
talking about Epstein, and so he decided he was going
(31:32):
to interview Cash Mattel.
Speaker 11 (31:33):
These documents in FBI Possession Your Possession detail at least
twenty men, including mister Jess Staley, CEO of Barkley's Bank,
who Jeffrey Epstein trafficked victims to victims including minors such
as Virginia Roberts You free, May she rest in peace.
That list also includes at least nineteen other individuals, one
(31:57):
Hollywood producer worth a few hundred million dollar, one royal prince,
one high profile individual in the music industry, one very
prominent banker, one high profile government official, one high profile
former politician, one owner of a car company in Italy,
one rock star, one magician, at least six billionaires, including
(32:17):
a billionaire from Canada.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
We know these.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
People exist in the FBI files, the files that you control.
I don't know exactly who they are, but the FBI does.
Have you launched any investigations into any of these people?
Speaker 11 (32:32):
And have you seen these three h two documents, sir?
Speaker 9 (32:36):
I have asked my FBI agents to review the entirety
of the Epstein files and bring forth any credible information.
And we're working with Congress on and who develows that
information and produce it to you. But any investigations that
arise from any credible investigation will be brought There have
been no new materials brought to me launching a new indictment.
Speaker 1 (32:58):
Now Massi's an enemy, and now he's making you look
bad publicly on purpose. And by the way, we don't
know any of the names, not on the names. I
don't know. Are these guys criminals? Again, I don't know,
and you don't know. We won't know. No one will
tell us. But now it all looks very, very bad. Now,
(33:19):
it looks shady, looks like you're covering something up. It
looks bad from the Trump administration standpoint. Maybe there is
a bunch of old bunk information in there, false accusations
in there. Maybe you're just trying to move on because
you know it is a distraction. Maybe, and we do
have to consider this possibility. Maybe there is somebody who's
(33:43):
being protected. No, I do not believe it's Donald Trump.
There's been no accusation that Donald Trump did anything wrong.
By now, any accusation like that would have been brought forward.
It would have been exposed long ago, very clearly. Donald
Trump did not do anything wrong with Jeffrey Epstein. So
I'm not saying Trump, I'm not I'm not saying that.
In fact, I'm saying quite the opposite. But maybe it's
(34:04):
someone else. I don't know, but I know that in
the next four or five days, because this is going
to last through the weekend. I promise you it is.
That's why I decided to do this long talk in
the coming days. Epstein, but the Epstein list and Epstein
files and what do you know? And what did he know?
And who did what? But it is going to be endless,
(34:28):
absolutely endless. And we are a people. We are suspicious
already long before. If you took Epstein's name out of it,
if you took all these crimes out of it, I'm
suspicious of all these freaking people, every one of them,
all of them, because we've watched over and over and
(34:49):
over again, these people getting away with horrible things, things
you would never get away with, and I would never
get away with. Now you so in years of eppste shadiness,
it just looks shady. It doesn't look right. It looks
like there are definitely some sort of government connections of
some kind. It looks bad. We are already very suspicious
(35:15):
of this. And I'm warning you now, I told you earlier.
I want to repeat myself. Do not think for a
second if all this stuff comes out, Bill passes and
everything and it all gets exposed, do not think that
you're going to get some sort of a Finally, we
(35:35):
know everything moment that's not gonna happen. They're gonna find
a way to lie. They'll be endless propaganda campaigns from
both sides about it, trying to suss out who did
what wrong with who is going to be a tough
errand we will do the best we can. I'm gonna
(35:56):
do it, You're gonna do it. We'll do the best
we can. But it's gonna be week. Now. Let's get
off of this freaking Epstein stuff and talk about medal
of honor stuff. That's what I want to do before
we talk about that, speaking of stuff that actually matters.
What's better than a baby than a young mother with
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her baby? Aren't those just the most wonderful things? Don't
you remember? I remember what it was like for both
of ours, just her in the hospital holding the baby,
Our baby preborn is the one giving that moment to
women who are about to deny themselves that moment. Women
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only taking away that baby's life, they are taking that
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get it back. We can give her that moment if
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that's what preborn does. They find these women and they say, hey,
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dot com slash Jesse. All right, it's medal of honor
(37:27):
Monday time. We're gonna move off to Epstein stuff. All
I suspect it's going to dominate the rest of the weekend.
I'm dreading it. But there was your primer getting ready
for it. It's honor a hero. Next
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