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April 15, 2024 43 mins

Memory Lane Mondays: In the wake of an insider blowing the whistle on massive institutional bias at NPR, we're rebroadcast our documentary on public broadcasting.

How can we end public broadcasting's liberal bias? To find the answer, we tell the story of an eye-opening NPR scandal and the origin behind LBJ's creation of public broadcasting. We also speak to Mike Gonzalez, a Senior Fellow at The Heritage Foundation, an expert on the history of public broadcasting.

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Speaker 2 (00:55):
Most conservative see public broadcasting as a left wing operation.
Public broadcasting is required to have political balance on controversial issues,
but the political bias of NPR and PBS seem to
find its way into their shows. Perhaps one c Span
caller put it best in twenty fourteen when Chastising, a

(01:17):
head executive of the public broadcasting industry.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
The non political shows are great. All the political shows
you have, though, are far left wing. Almost everyone covers
three subjects, global warming, racism, and homosexuality stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Given its obvious left wing bias, what can conservatives do
to fix public broadcasting?

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I'm Patrick Carlci and I'm Adriana Cortez.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
And this is Red Pilled America, a storytelling show.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
This is not another talk show covering the day's news.
We are all about telling stories.

Speaker 2 (01:55):
Stories. Hollywood doesn't want you to hear stories.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
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Speaker 2 (02:03):
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And we've promised only one thing, the truth.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
Welcome to Red Pilled America.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
No one can deny that public broadcasting puts out some
high quality content, from NPR shows like This American Life
to PBS's series Frontline. Some of the country's best produced
documentaries come from the public broadcasting networks. But to many
on the right, it goes without saying that the entire
ecosystem has a left wing slant. Can anything be done

(02:48):
to fix this problem? To find the answer, we tell
the story of one of MPR's biggest controversies, and take
a journey to the origin of public broadcasting. We also
speak to Mike Gonzalez, and your fellow at the Heritage
Foundation and an expert on public broadcasting. NPR and PBS
have long been the bane of conservatives, and maybe the

(03:09):
movement needs to think out of the box on how
to fix the problem.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
It was the summer of twenty ten when a debate
began to rage in Lower Manhattan.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
I hope you I hope you get and I'm not racist.

Speaker 6 (03:31):
Thank you. No, I'm not.

Speaker 7 (03:33):
You're you're saying that so that it makes it down.

Speaker 8 (03:36):
My time racist.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
A New York City developer was approved to build an
Islamic mosque just two blocks from ground zero. The developer
called it the Cordoba House, and when news of the
projects spread throughout the area, a town hall meeting was
organized to address the community's concerns. Supporters and opponents of
the development predictably clashed over the project, and I.

Speaker 6 (03:58):
Could not be more further. I apologized.

Speaker 9 (04:03):
I apologize.

Speaker 10 (04:04):
Today's up there.

Speaker 11 (04:05):
We need to get the police to quiet this person.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
National Public Radio or NPR, covered the building controversy and
the way they often do, feigning an unbiased perspective on
the hot button topic.

Speaker 4 (04:17):
I'm Michelle Martin, and this is tell me more from
NPR News today. We want to talk about a building,
the proposed Islamic Center, a couple of blocks from ground zero.
So just to make it clear, the center in New
York has already been approved, and the issue now is
whether or not the building should receive special landmark preservation status,
which would mean the thirteenth story building couldn't be torned down.
But this center is likely to move forward regardless.

Speaker 1 (04:38):
Michelle Martin, a longtime journalist for National Public Radio, was
executing NPR's patented approach to covering the news. That is,
she played the role of the neutral host while her
equally impartial, liberal leading guest delivered an opinion on the matter.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
The fact is there are a lot of people who
are still very angry about it. Maybe they just found
out about it. What steps would you take to address
these feelings.

Speaker 8 (05:00):
We have to get to a larger conversation about people's
aspirations for their communities, not their fears and preconceived notions
and maybe their prejudices.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Sarah Palin, the former Vice presidential candidate sent a series
of Twitter posts on Sunday asking the Muslim community to
move away from the site in the interest of healing.
I mean, she's suggesting that people may have a right
to build the site there, but they should make the
gesture to the larger community, as she put it, in
the interest of healing. What do you make of that.

Speaker 8 (05:27):
Argument, Well, you know this is your segment on faith,
right and forgiveness actually often begins with those who have
been perceived to be wronged in something, not those who
have necessarily perpetrated it.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
In other words, it was the responsibility of Americans like
Sarah Palin to roll over on the issue of a
mosque at ground zero. Over the decades, NPR has developed
a masterful way of camouflaging their bias, a technique that
most honest right leading listeners identify, namely, the public radio

(06:02):
network cherry picks facts to lead the audience towards the
worldview of NPR's liberal staff.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
One thing I think has been lost in all this
is that there are many Muslims who lost their lives
on nine to eleven, both at the World Trainer Center,
both of the World Trade Center, and at the Pentagon
that there are people of the Muslim faith who lost
their lives.

Speaker 1 (06:20):
As the summer of twenty ten progressed, the ground zero
Mosque debate just wouldn't go away, and it was to
be expected. The country was in the midst of a
mid term election cycle, and the issue created a clear
contrast for voters, a contrast that became even more stark
when then President Obama entered the fray.

Speaker 12 (06:37):
I understand the emotions that this issue engenders, and Ground
zero is indeed hallowed ground. But let me be clear,
as a citizen and as president, I believe that Muslims
have the right to practice their religion as everyone else
in this country, and that includes that includes the right

(06:59):
to build place of worship in a community center on
private property in Lower Manhattan in accordance with local laws
and ordinances. This is America, and our commitment to religious
freedom must be unshakable. The principle that people of all
faiths are welcome in this country and that they will
not be treated differently by their government is essential to

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who we are. The writ of the Founders must endure.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's when the issue went nuclear. Republican politicians and pundits
stepped up the rhetoric on the national debate.

Speaker 13 (07:33):
Nazis don't have the right to put up a sign
next to the Holocaust Museum in Washington. We would never
accept the Japanese putting up a site next to Pearl Harbor.
There's no reason for us to accept a mosque next
to the World Trade Center.

Speaker 6 (07:48):
I'm a reasonable human being. I had no problem with
a mosque.

Speaker 14 (07:51):
You want to build a church, a mosque, a synagogue,
any place.

Speaker 15 (07:55):
That's fine.

Speaker 6 (07:56):
You want to build it, and you want to open it.
On September eleventh, a fool.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
It was a debate that the right appeared to be winning,
and that seemed to bother the staff in NPR. You see,
prior to Obama's comments, National Public Radio had a nuanced
approach to covering the controversy, But now that the scale
of public opinion was leading to the right, journalist at
MPR took a noticeably more aggressive approach.

Speaker 11 (08:19):
This is a morning edition from NPR News. I'm Linda
Wertheimer and I'm Steven'sgate.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
Good morning.

Speaker 16 (08:24):
There was a time after the nine to eleven attacks
when American officials struggled to make a crucial point from
President Bush on down. They said Osama bin Laden did
not represent all Muslims.

Speaker 11 (08:35):
They said, it would be a victory for al Qaeda
if Americans turned against the entire Muslim world. Nine years
after nine to eleven, American politicians are doing what they
were warned against.

Speaker 16 (08:47):
A plan for an Islamic center two blocks away from
the World Trade Center site has created a political opportunity,
and many candidates are seizing that opportunity.

Speaker 11 (08:56):
To be clear, Republicans are not the only opponents of
the Islamic sis. Republicans are the ones who appear to
be eager to use the issue to put Democrats on
the defensive in this fall's elections.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Even NPR's Michelle Martin began to express her feelings on
the matter. During an appearance on CNN, a guest panelist
suggested the Cordoba House developers move the mosque away from
Brown Zero. Michelle Martin countered the idea.

Speaker 17 (09:20):
And wouldn't it be a great thing if they moved
it a few blocks and Muslims and Americans who still
worry would be talking to each other.

Speaker 4 (09:27):
Let's compromise.

Speaker 18 (09:28):
Well, why don't we compromise with Catholic church?

Speaker 4 (09:32):
Did anybody move a Christian church after Timothy McVeigh, who
adhered to a cultic white supremastics cultic version of Christianity.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Even now, somebody tried to Bill Michelle Martin was mistaken.
Domestic terrorist Timothy McVeigh was not a Christian. The day
before his execution, he identified himself as agnostic, but the
MPR journalist skipped over that fact to argue in support
of the ground Zero mosque. As election day twenty ten approached,
he the issue was still raging as Bill O'Reilly swaggered

(10:03):
onto the set of the View.

Speaker 19 (10:04):
Please welcome Bill O'Reilly.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
The producers must have been hoping for fireworks, because it
was obvious that the View co hosts Joy Beharn and
Whoopy Goldberg were not big fans of the then Fox
News Nighttime host of Fact, Bill O'Reilly addressed, immediately, look at.

Speaker 20 (10:21):
You every time I come on Issues head.

Speaker 21 (10:23):
Did this happen?

Speaker 4 (10:26):
Well, I have a case of gas, that's all.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
That's As the discussion progressed, O'Reilly inevitably brought up the
hot topic.

Speaker 20 (10:37):
Let me break this to you.

Speaker 22 (10:38):
Seventy Americans don't want that moss down there.

Speaker 6 (10:41):
So don't give me the wead.

Speaker 20 (10:44):
You wanna better that America.

Speaker 6 (10:50):
They don't want to Why is that? But why are
we saying inappropriate?

Speaker 20 (10:55):
Seventy families on nine to eleven?

Speaker 1 (11:00):
Oh hell broke loose.

Speaker 20 (11:02):
Modus didn't kill us?

Speaker 1 (11:16):
Want to out In protest, Woopy Goldberg and Joy Bahar
walked off the set. It looked like this would be
the peak of the ground zero mosque debate, but things
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Speaker 23 (12:55):
Today, I'm the View Forshelle HLN host Stroy Behar and
Fox News host Bill O'Reilly discussing a proposed mosque near grounds.
Early well, they had a difference of opinion, to put
it mildly.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
On his next show, Bill O'Reilly brought up his feud
on the View with Fox News commentator Juan Williams.

Speaker 24 (13:14):
So where am I going wrong now?

Speaker 25 (13:16):
One?

Speaker 26 (13:16):
Well, actually, I hate to say this to you because
I don't want to get your ego going, but I
think you're right. I think look, political correctness can lead
to some kind of paralysis where you don't address reality.

Speaker 6 (13:27):
I mean, look, Bill, I'm not a big at.

Speaker 26 (13:29):
You know the kind of books I've written about the
civil rights movement in this country.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
But when I get on a plane, I gotta tell you.

Speaker 26 (13:34):
If I see people who are in Muslim garb and
I think you know they're identifying themselves first and foremost
as Muslims.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
I get worried, I get nervous.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
The comment seemed pretty tame, but at the time, Juan
Williams wasn't just a Fox News commentator. He was also
a news analyst for National Public Radio, and his candid
statement was it complete odds with nprs sanctioned narrative. It
wasn't long before MPR CEO Vivian Schiller gave Juan Williams

(14:08):
the boot.

Speaker 17 (14:09):
An analyst with National Public Radio has been fired.

Speaker 11 (14:12):
Juan Williams fired by NPR.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
NPR's chief executive, Vivian Shiller, issued a written statement saying,
in part, William's remarks on the O'Reilly factor this past
Monday were inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices and
undermined his credibility as a news analyst with NPR.

Speaker 1 (14:30):
NPRCO held a press conference to address her decision.

Speaker 27 (14:33):
He has been a frequent contributor to Fox News.

Speaker 4 (14:37):
That's fine.

Speaker 27 (14:37):
We don't necessarily have an issue with that. However, we
expect anybody that appears on our air, either as a
journalist or a news analyst, to conduct themselves according to
our journalistic rules. Of ethics wherever they might be, in
any form and in any venue. There have been several
incidences over the years where Juan has strayed from that line.

(15:00):
In this case, we decided that his integrity as a
news analyst has been undermined by the fact that he
has expressed these very divisive views, and those two things
are not compatible. His feelings that he expressed on Fox
News are really between him and his psychiatrist or his publicist,
or take your pick, but it is not compatible with

(15:22):
the role of a news analyst on NPR's era.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
The firing reeked of political bias. Just a few months earlier,
NPR journalist Michelle Martin falsely aligned Christians with domestic terrorists
Timothy McVay, yet she still had a job, and days earlier,
another MPR journalist had labeled Tea Party Republicans as extremist.

Speaker 11 (15:43):
Can you think of another time in American history when
there have been as many people running for Congress who
seemed to be on the extreme.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Critics of the firing noted other times NPR journalists made
controversial comments but weren't fired, including when Nina Totenberg suggested
that God might give the aids virus to the grandchildren
of a Republican senator for his policy positions.

Speaker 11 (16:07):
I don't think I have any Jesse Helms defenders here,
Nina Ni.

Speaker 9 (16:11):
I think he ought to be worried about what's going
on in the Good Lord's mind, because if there's retributive justice,
he'll get aids from a transfusion or one of his grandchildren.

Speaker 17 (16:21):
Will Kenneth.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
People were outraged by MPR's firing of Juan Williams. In
the immediate aftermath, Laan was asked why he thought MPR
fired him, So.

Speaker 19 (16:31):
What do you think the issue is here?

Speaker 7 (16:32):
Do you think it's just that the fact that you
were working for Fox became too much trouble for MPR.

Speaker 26 (16:37):
I think, you know what, this is one of the
things in my life that's just such a shocking because
I grew up basically on the left. I grew up
here in New York City, and I've always thought the
right wing was the ones who were inflexible and intolerant.
And now I'm coming to realize that the orthodoxy at NPR,
if it's representing the left, it's just unbelievable.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
Conservatives had long considered public broadcast as left wing, so
the entire affair was perfectly positioned for them to mount
an attack on NPR specifically and public broadcasting more broadly.

Speaker 24 (17:09):
Conservatives and some liberals are lashing out at National Public
Radio for firing one of its best known voices, Juan Williams.

Speaker 17 (17:15):
Mike Hockaby says he won't do any interviews on NPR.

Speaker 15 (17:17):
New Gingrich accused NPR of censorship.

Speaker 6 (17:20):
The chef.

Speaker 13 (17:21):
I think that the US Congress should investigate NPR and
I should consider cutting.

Speaker 8 (17:25):
Off their money.

Speaker 23 (17:26):
Sarah Palin tweeted, lights shine on left's lamestream media, lies
and hypocrisy.

Speaker 22 (17:31):
He explained his feelings, and the guy gets fired because
it doesn't fit the left wing dogma that you have
to follow, and we put taxpayer money into that censorship program.

Speaker 18 (17:43):
People listen to NPR and they walk away saying God.

Speaker 14 (17:46):
Is just absolutely liberal in its orientation and his outlook,
and it's reporting.

Speaker 15 (17:51):
I'm a fan of NPR if I listened to it,
my family's contributed to it. But why do they get
federal money? Why should tax dollars go to a meet
the outlet? It is clearly a left of center.

Speaker 3 (18:02):
It's a really bad strategic move for ENPR. This is
a media entity that for years has.

Speaker 10 (18:09):
Been dogged by allegations of being two liberal. NPR has
a show called All Things Considered, and it turns out
there aren't all things considered. There's a few viewpoints that
are considered and considered worthy of airing.

Speaker 23 (18:21):
NPR denies that their broadcasts have a liberal agenda, and
they say very little of their money comes from the
government anyway.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
But now Republicans in Congress are trying to cut funding
not only to NPR but to all public broadcasting.

Speaker 23 (18:33):
Senator Jim Dementz says he'll introduce a bill to end
taxpayer subsidies. He says the firing of Williams just shows
NPR promotes a one sided liberal agenda.

Speaker 10 (18:43):
I think we have a national momentum to defund NPR,
and that's what should happen.

Speaker 6 (18:46):
But I do believe that will happen.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
One Williams would quickly land on his feet after his firing.
He reportedly signed a multi year deal with Fox News
worth two million dollars. But the turn of events put
taxpayer funding for public broadcasting in the crosshairs of conservative Americans.
At the time, public broadcasting was receiving four hundred and
twenty million dollars annually. Calls to defund the entire operation

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grew to a fever pitch while still in the eye
of the tornado. NPR's on budsman said the reaction to
the firing had quote unleashed an unprecedented firestorm of criticism
directed not at Williams but at NPR end quote within
the first twenty four hours of the controversy, and PR
reportedly received more than eight thousand emails, which the onmbudsman

(19:36):
said was quote a record with nothing a close second
end quote. Conservative anger towards public broadcasting had been building
up for decades, dating back to its launch. From day one,
right leaning America saw liberal bias throughout the newly formed ecosystem,
which may lead one to wonder how did this government
funded system even come into existence. To understand that, we

(20:00):
need to go back to the nineteen fifties where public
broadcasting finds its roots.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
By the early nineteen fifties, broadcasting was in its infancy.
There was no cable TV, no Internet, no podcasts, no
streaming services. There were just three national networks CBS, NBC,
and ABC. All three were in both radio and television broadcasting.
No other major national players were in the game, but

(20:31):
there was an organization that was looking to throw its
hat in the ring. Enter the Ford Foundation, a tax
exempt philanthropic outfit founded by automotive pioneer Henry Ford and
his son Edsel. The Ford Foundation was formed in nineteen
thirty six, and when Henry Ford died in nineteen forty seven,
the foundation received the financial windfall of ninety percent of

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the non voting shares of the Ford Motor Company. Shortly
after his grandfather's death, the Ford Foundation's chairman, Henry Ford
the second, identified education as one of its primary areas
of action. In nineteen fifty two, the Foundation made a
move into the arena by funding the Educational Television and

(21:16):
Radio Center in Ann Arbor, Michigan. The center was to
distribute educational programming to both radio and television. Now this
was a touchy time for tax exemp entities like the
Ford Foundation. Members of Congress viewed many of them with
a skeptical eye. They were concerned that the trustees heading
the big ones like the Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Ford Foundations,

(21:38):
were adopting a subversive approach to their grant making activities.
And it wasn't some hair brain conspiracy theory. The Rockefeller
Foundation funded Alfred Kinsey's controversial human sexual Behavior Studies, a
line of research that would eventually lead to the transgender
and broader LGBTQ movement. One U S. Congressman Tennessee Congressman

(21:59):
Brazilica Carol Reese openly wondered, quote, to what extent, if any,
are the funds of the large foundations aiding and abetting
Marxist tendencies and weakening the love which every American should
have for his way of life. So Congressman Reese set
out to find the answer. He put together what would

(22:20):
come to be known as the Rece Committee to investigate
not the stated missions of the Foundation, but instead their actions.
He added an economist to the committee by the name
of Norman Dodd. Dodd would become the director of Research
of the Committee shortly before his passing in nineteen eighty seven.
Dodd was asked in a series of interviews, what is

(22:42):
investigations found out about the tax exempt Foundations.

Speaker 21 (22:46):
We found out, doctor, that these foundations had as their
objective the orientation of the people of this country to
the idea of collectivism and thereby nulla flying for good
and all of the commitment of the country to individualism,
which was the creature of the country at the beginning.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
To do this, the large tax exempt foundations honed in
on education, and according to Norman Dodd, they used their
vast resources to influence the entire United States educational system.
It was their attempt to chip away at the fabric
of American society. What the Race Committee claimed to have
found was that the trustees of these tax exempt foundations

(23:33):
were dramatically shifting away from the beliefs of the industrialists
that created the foundation's wealth. They instead adopted an Unamerican
Marxist ideology. When asked why they wanted to move the
country towards Marxism, Norman Dodd had an answer.

Speaker 25 (23:48):
Well, because to them, what communism represents some means of
developing what we call a monopoly. They will be the beneficiaries.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
Yes, Dodd highlighted one off the record conversation he had
with the president of the Ford Foundation, Horas Gaither, during
his investigation. Mister Gaither summoned Norman Dodd to his office
in New York.

Speaker 21 (24:11):
And on arrival, after amenities, mister Gaither, who was the
then president, said, mister Dodd, we invited you to come
and see us this morning, hoping that you would, off
the record tell us why the Congress was interested in
operations of foundations such as ours. And before I could

(24:33):
think of how I would reply to him, he volunteered
the following. He said, mister Dodd, those of us here
at the policy making level have all had experience either
with the OSS or the European Economic Administration in operating
under directives, the origin of which was the White House.

(24:53):
We today operate under just such directives. Would you like
to know what the substance of the the directives is?
And I said yes, mister Gazer, I like very much
to know. Whereupon he said to me, the substance of
the directives under which we operate is that we shall
use our grant making power so to all their life

(25:15):
in the United States that we can be comfortably merged
with the Soviet Union, well figuratively. I nearly fell off
the chair.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
The power of the Carnegie, Rockefeller, and Ford foundations proved
to be too much for the rece Committee. The tax
exempt organizations successfully marginalized the committee's findings. By nineteen fifty four,
the Ford Foundation continued their venture into so called educational
television by funding the National Educational Television Network, and the
organization began distributing content.

Speaker 18 (25:52):
This is National Educational Television, a program distributed by the
Educational Television and Radio Center.

Speaker 2 (26:00):
Now the Ford Foundation had made such a dramatic shift
towards radical causes that Henry Ford's grandson, Henry Ford the second,
resigned as chairman of the Foundation in nineteen fifty six.
On his way out, he had monished the trustees, stating
in his resignation letter that the foundation was quote a
creation of capitalism. I'm just suggesting to the trustees and

(26:21):
the staff that the system that makes the foundation possible
very probably is worth preserving end quote. A few years later,
on April third, nineteen sixty one, the National Educational Radio
Network used funding by the Ford Foundation to begin broadcasting
on six radio stations. The seeds of public television and

(26:42):
public radio were beginning to take root, but the cost
of these endeavors were mounting, and the Ford Foundation began
looking for ways to reduce their financial commitment. And their
timing was impeccable.

Speaker 17 (26:54):
Like everybody, I wear more than one hat. I am
the chairman of the FCAC. I'm also a television viewer
and the husband and father of other television viewers.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
On May ninth, nineteen sixty one, newly appointed FCC Chairman
Newton Minnow gave a speech to the National Association of
Broadcasters in Washington, d C. Historians mark this as a
turning point for public broadcasting. His speech in effect provided
the rationale for the government to fund a new broadcasting network.
The speech came to be known as the Vast Wasteland Speech,

(27:27):
and in it, Newton Minnow criticized the content of the
entire broadcasting industry.

Speaker 17 (27:32):
I have seen a great many programs that seem to
me eminently worthwhile. When television is good, nothing, not the theater,
not the magazines or newspapers, nothing is better. But when
television is bad, nothing is worse. I invite each of
you to sit down in front of your own television
set when your station goes on the air, and stay

(27:52):
there for a day, keep your eyes glued to that
set until the station signs off. I can assure you
that what you will observe is a vast wasteland.

Speaker 19 (28:02):
You will see a.

Speaker 17 (28:02):
Procession of game shows, formula, comedies about totally unbelievable families,
blood and thunder, mayhem, violence, sadism, murder, western bad men,
western good men, private eyes, gangsters, more violence, and cartoons
and endlessly commercials, many screaming, cajoling and offending, and most
of all boredom. True, you'll see a few things you

(28:24):
will enjoy.

Speaker 5 (28:25):
But they will be very, very few.

Speaker 17 (28:27):
And if you think I exaggerate, I only ask you
to try it. And most young children today, believe it
or not, spend as much time watching television as.

Speaker 20 (28:36):
They do in the school room.

Speaker 17 (28:38):
Is there no room on television to teach, to inform,
to uplift, to stretch, to enlarge the capacities of our children?
Is there no room for a children's news show explaining
something to them about the world at their level of understanding?
Is there no room for reading the great literature of
the past, for teaching them the great traditions of freedom?
There are some fine children's shows, they are drowned out

(29:01):
in the massive doses of cartoons, violence, and more violence.
Must these be your trademarks? Search your consciences and see
if you cannot offer more to your young beneficiaries whose
future you guide so many hours each and every day.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
It was effective rhetoric and Newton minnow would go on
to be considered one of the godfathers of public radio.
He'd later head the Carnegie Foundation and played a part
in Barack Obama's life. In the late nineteen eighties, he
recruited Obama to his law firm, where Barack met his
future wife, Michelle. President Obama would return the favor by
giving Newton Minnow the Presidential Medal of Freedom. In twenty sixteen,

(29:50):
a year after Newton Minnow's nineteen sixty one speech, President
Kennedy signed the Educational Television Facilities Act, which brought the
first major federal funding to public broadcasting, authorizing roughly twenty
five million to create technical facilities for educational TV. The
public broadcasting movement was gaining steam, so much so that
a pioneer in radio and television news broadcasting got in

(30:14):
on the action.

Speaker 18 (30:15):
Good evening, I'm ad Meirle and this is Channel thirteen
WNDT something rather different. This is educational television. It is
nine years old, quite young in the annals of education.
But then television itself is but newcome to being. This afternoon,
there were sixty seven stations in the country tonight. This

(30:35):
becomes the sixty eighth. In time, there will be over
two hundred such stations. It will, in short, be the
development of a new fourth television network serving all the
peoples of the fifty states that are this land. Educational
television is nonprofit. Upon these airwaves, you will see no commercials.
The only thing this channel will sell is the lure

(30:56):
of learning. The only product they will push is the
node of no college. Tonight, you join me in being
present at the birth of a great adventure.

Speaker 13 (31:04):
Edward R.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Murrow was a journalistic icon, but he was also an
undercover radical. He sponsored a communist school in Moscow and
played a hand in bringing Marxist professors from the German
Frankfurt School to the United States, the same professors that
would develop the woke ideology saturating universities, media, and all
of modern American culture. To anyone that was paying attention,

(31:26):
something fishy was developing in public broadcasting. The entire ecosystem
was made up of leftists friendly to the socialist cause,
and they were about to get a big boost.

Speaker 6 (31:43):
From Dallas, Texas.

Speaker 19 (31:44):
The flash apparently official President Kennedy died at one pm
Central Standard Time.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Upon the death of JFK. Junior Lyndon B. Johnson became
president of the United States, and it was just a
few years earlier, when he was the Senator from Texas,
that the pioneers of public broadcasting sold him on the
idea of a government funded broadcasting network.

Speaker 14 (32:07):
They really sold it, at least they didn't mean it.
At least they sold it as education television.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
That's Mike Gonzalez, a senior Fellow at the Heritage Foundation.
In his well researched twenty seventeen article for the Knight Foundation,
he argued for an end to taxpayer funded public broadcasting.
Mike Gonzalez notes that the pioneers of public broadcasting sold
it as a government funded educational network. Besides once being

(32:33):
a teacher, Lyndon B. Johnson and his wife, Lady Bird
made their fortune in radio and TV. In the early
nineteen fifties, they owned the sole license for a commercial
TV station in Austin, Texas. So Johnson understood the power
of radio and TV.

Speaker 14 (32:49):
As when they met with Senator Johnson before he became
Vice president and then president, when he was a powerful
senator from Texas, and he had been a principal in Cotula, Texas,
and that experience mark Johnson a great deal at least
he said it did, and they said, look, you can
multiply that you have a teacher teaching the thousands of

(33:12):
kids rather than just twenty eight kids, and they sold
it as education television.

Speaker 2 (33:19):
The pioneers of public broadcasting argued that they'd air the
local symphony orchestras and be the classroom in the TV,
but by the nineteen sixties they were already drifting from
that promise. The Ford Foundation, who'd been a primary funder
of public broadcasting, had started experimenting with financing documentaries and

(33:40):
public affairs programming that it distributed through its National Educational
Television Network. Their content was saturated with the radical counterculture
ideas of the nineteen sixties, which Mike Gonzalz branded as
quote an all out assault on America's institutions end quote.
When the National Educational Television Network was rebranded as those

(34:00):
who were carefully watching could see that public broadcasting was
evolving from an educational network to a news outfit. When
Lyndon B. Johnson became president, even with this transformation underway,
he sold the creation of public broadcasting to the American
public as a much needed educational service.

Speaker 19 (34:18):
We should develop educational television into a vital public resource
to enrich our homes, educate our families, and to provide
assystems in our classroom. And I will propose these measures
to the ninetieth Congress.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Public Broadcasting Act of nineteen
sixty seven, and by doing so, he established the Corporation
for Public Broadcasting or the CPB, the entity that distributes
funds to public broadcasting networks and content creators.

Speaker 18 (34:50):
Nationwide distribution of the preceding program as the service of
the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
The Public Broadcasting Act also transformed the National Educationational Radio
Network into National Public Radio or NPR.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Thousands of young people came to Washington willing to risk
being arrested in order to end the war. They went
into the streets this morning to stop the government from
functioning by clogging many Washington roads during this morning's rush hour.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
In addition, it turned the National Educational Television Network into
the Public Broadcasting System, better known as PBS. The cost
of the far left Ford Foundation's creations were now being
subsidized by taxpayers. NPR and PBS officially began airing during

(35:36):
the Nixon administration, and Nixon hated the networks. He tried
to defund them when he did, the Young Enterprise look
like it was on the ropes. But when the Watergate
hearings commenced, PBS decided to cover the entire affair from
start to finish. A public broadcasting executive at the time said, quote,
Nixon vetoed the funding bill, cut our funding, and now

(35:59):
he's giving us are best programming end quote again Mike Gonzalez.

Speaker 14 (36:04):
Every Republican president, says Nixon, has tried to defund the CPV,
including also not a president but new Gingridge when you're
Speaker of the House. No Democrat president or speaker has
ever tried to do that because they're very happy.

Speaker 21 (36:18):
With the results.

Speaker 2 (36:19):
And into the modern day, the large tax exempt foundations
still have a hand in funding public broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
Welcome back to red pilled America. In the wake of
the Jan Williams firing, National Public Radio claimed that it
was not biased, and it almost got away with that claim,
but then in early twenty eleven, a young journalist pulled
the curtain back on NPR.

Speaker 13 (36:47):
An NPR executive was caught on tape in a conservative sting.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Investigative journalist James O'Keefe had a team go undercover to
investigate the Public Broadcasting Network.

Speaker 23 (36:58):
You're looking at a sting operation, a setup by people
who know how to do it. NPR Foundation executive Ron
Schiller thinks he's meeting with a potential donor, but he's
actually being punked.

Speaker 24 (37:08):
Last month, Schiller went to the posh Georgetown eatery Cafe Milano,
where he thought he was meeting potential donors affiliated with
the fundamentalist Muslim Brotherhood who were offering a five million
dollar donation. He was caught on tape trying to ingratiate
himself to the donors by disparaging Jews, the Tea Party
and Republicans.

Speaker 28 (37:27):
The current Republican party of a particular tea party is
fanatically involved in people's personal lives and very fundamentally Christian,
and I wouldn't even call it Christian. It's this weird
evangelic altna.

Speaker 29 (37:43):
He also said the network would be better off without
federal funding.

Speaker 26 (37:47):
This, to me is finally a window into how they
really think. It's like you were tuning your radio and
just by accident, you got the right wavelength and now.

Speaker 6 (37:55):
You're hearing the truth.

Speaker 30 (37:56):
Schiller was living down to the conservative stereotype of an
executive sneering, arrogant, utterly dismissive of views not his own.
I mean, if you were to cast a character in
the right wing fever dream of NPR executives.

Speaker 29 (38:12):
He would be this guy today. In response to that news,
Schiller was placed on administrative leave. The remarks were captured
as part of a video sting by conservative activist James O'Keeffe.
At a time when public broadcasting is under assault, O'Keeffe.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Pulled off what he called a long con, whereas operatives
set up an elaborate ruse to expose a left wing
bias of NPR.

Speaker 23 (38:39):
O'Keefe and his operatives went to great lengths for the sting,
even setting up a fake website for the Muslim Education
Action Center. Then the operatives posting a wealthy Muslim donors,
set up a meeting at this DC restaurant and set
up a hidden camera inside. I spoke with NPR President
and CEO Vivian Schiller, who's not related to Ron Schiller,
over the phone.

Speaker 27 (38:59):
The comment made by Ron Schuller an affront to this
organization and our contrary to everything we stand for as
a news organization.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Her response didn't save her job. The NPR CEO was
eventually forced out along with the executive caught in the sting.

Speaker 24 (39:14):
The CEO of NPR submitted her resignation today. Their chief
fundraiser was also shown the door. Their casualties in a
war over culture and spending cuts that threatens the very
existence of public broadcasting, including Big Bird and Elmo.

Speaker 12 (39:27):
The House Rules Committee called an emergency meeting this afternoon
to consider a bill that would cut government funding for NPR.

Speaker 8 (39:35):
I think that the image that we have seen on
the videos.

Speaker 12 (39:39):
Tells us something about the internal culture of NPR.

Speaker 13 (39:42):
Listen to the executives at NPR that says that they
don't need taxpayer funding.

Speaker 6 (39:48):
We ought to take that advice for what it is.

Speaker 13 (39:50):
Why should we allow taxpayer dollars to be used to
advocate one ideology?

Speaker 6 (39:57):
Why should we we shouldn't?

Speaker 31 (40:00):
Remarks and their public disclosure could hardly come at a
worse time for public broadcasting. House Republicans have voted to
strip away all funding for public media starting in twenty thirteen,
citing budget constraints and what they say is NPR's liberal bias.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
But in the end, it was all talk in twenty thirteen,
Public Broadcasting received over four hundred and twenty million dollars
from Washington DC, and those funds have been slowly increasing
ever since. In twenty twenty four, Public Broadcasting is set
to receive a whopping five hundred and twenty five million
in taxpayer dollars.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Which leads us back to the question, what can conservatives
do to fix public broadcasting? Well, the right can try
to defund public broadcasting, but it's been failing at that
for half a century. I mean, the GOP was unable
to defund Planned Parenthood even after the country learn they
sold the fetal tissue of aborted babies. Maybe the right

(41:17):
should attempt something new. Perhaps it should try to infiltrate
public broadcasting by creating its own organizations that can tap
these massive funds. Think about it. The left also played
the long con by transforming an educational network into a
news organization. Now it has an annual slush fund of
roughly half a billion dollars to produce news and documentaries

(41:40):
that help keep the Democrats in power. NPR and PBS
have led the way in defining the narrative of almost
every hot button issue in America from its beginning it
helped turn the public against Richard Nixon to modern times,
where it's received a prestigious Peabody Award for its coverage
on the so called insurre direction of January sixth, but

(42:02):
was absent in characterizing the George Floyd riots as the
insurrection it was. Maybe the way to fix public broadcasting
is for the right to infiltrate the industry to become
conservative public broadcasters. Because even in PR admits that their
entire organization is staffed almost exclusively by left wingers.

Speaker 32 (42:22):
You and I both know that if you were to
somehow poll the political orientation of everybody in the NPR
news organization and at all of the members stations, you
would find a progressive liberal crowd, not uniformly, but.

Speaker 16 (42:36):
Overwhelmingly journalism in general, reporters tend to be Democrats and
tend to be more liberal than the public as a whole.

Speaker 23 (42:43):
Sure, but that doesn't change what is going out over
the air.

Speaker 1 (42:47):
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