March 3, 2025 • 37 mins
When should companies get political? To find the answer, we tell the story of two companies that took the plunge into politics…Bud Light and Sticker Mule. Along the way we here from Anson Frericks, former President of Anheuser-Busch Sales and Distribution Company and author of Last Call for Bud Light, as well as Anthony Constantino, CEO of Sticker Mule.
Both Bud Light and Sticker Mule got involved in a controversial issue…but only one came out better for their effort. And the reason why should be a cautionary tale to companies that want to dip their toe into the political ring.
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should companies get political? To find the answer, we're going
to tell the story of two companies that took the
plunge into politics, bud Light and Sticker Mule. Along the way,
we hear from Anson Freericks, former president of Anheuser Busch
Sales and Distribution company, an author of Last Call for
bud Light, we also hear from Anthony Constantino, CEO of
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Sticker Mule. Both bud Light and Sticker Mule got involved
in a controversial issue, but only one came out better
for their effort, and the reason why should be a
cautionary tale to companies that want to dip their toe
into the political ring.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I guess you can say bud Light started to bleed
in early April twenty twenty three when it aligned with
a controversial figure.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Day twelve of Being a Girl and I just picked
up some tampons.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
As part of a March Madness basketball promotion, Ann heeuser
Busch teamed with transgender TikTok celeb Dylan Mulbany to promote
what was then America's most popular beer brand.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I got some bud Lights for us. I kept hearing
about this thing called March Madness. It turns out it
has something to do with sports, and I'm not sure
exactly which sport. Either way, it's a cost to celebrate.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Bud Light had been doing promotions with the LGBTQ community
for decades, but in this particular promotion, the frat Boy
beer brand decided to piggyback on a very special day
for the rising trans Star.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This month, I celebrated my day three sixty five of womanhood,
and bud Light sent me possibly the best gift ever,
a ken with my face on it. Check out my
Instagram story to see how you can enjoy March Madness
with bud Light and maybe win some money too well.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Came next was perhaps one of the most successful boycotts
in American history.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
People that did not like the message, they took it
out by basically boycotting the product.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Bud Light boycott the one tanking sales by more than
twenty eight.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Percent over the last four weeks.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
Bud Light's rain as the top selling beer in America
is over.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
Budlights drop from the top comes after it sparked outrage
from conservatives for partnering with transgender influencer Dylan mulvaney the.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Whole Dylan mlvniy. You know it's one post.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
That's Anson Freerricks, former president of Anheuser Busch Sales and
Distribution Company and author of Last Call for bud Light,
The Fall and Future of America's favorite beer.
Speaker 10 (05:57):
But like one post, all of a sudden has become
the poster child of what went wrong? Really, what I'll
call it the whole stakeholder capitalism psg DEI movement.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Anson is right. The bud Light promotion was just one post,
but it was at the tail end of a jaw
dropping year for Dylan mulvaney and the transgender movement, a
year that should have been one big red flag to
the beer brand. When bud Light connected with the social
media star in twenty twenty three, he was not new
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to celebrity. Mulvaney had been a theater actor for years,
playing in the US touring rendition of the Book of Mormon.
But at the outbreak of COVID nineteen, when all live
events were halted in twenty twenty, maulvaney looked for an
outlet to keep himself occupied, and that's when he found TikTok.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Move over, old McDonald, there's a new farmer in town.
I'm Dylan today. We're on the farm and we're seapherting.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Let's go. He started by making cringey skits for the
social media platform.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Who would like an interview? Would you like an interview?
Speaker 11 (07:06):
I'm offering hey and an IMDb credit.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
The skinny, pasty skinned white man dressed in outlandish attire
and pranced around like a child. That what Malvani was
doing at the time was not necessarily original. It was
just a modern twist to the peewee herman character made
popular in the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
What do we do now? I know, Let's go look
at my toys.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
For the next two years, Malvany found his niche comedic
skits interviewing animals. It was abundantly clear that he was
a gay man, and his videos got some traction, but
it wasn't until early twenty twenty two that Malvani's popularity
on TikTok exploded.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I am a girl. I am a trans woman. My
new pronouns are she and they and I suppose that
this is my coming out video.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Of sorts, Malvainy did not just come out as a
transsexual female. The twenty five year old biological male often
presented as a caricature of a little girl with girly
Borett's in his shoulder length hair and preteen style earrings.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I got my ears pierced, so I picked this little
gold star because it reminded me of stickers at school.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Malvany claimed he'd grown up in a conservative household while.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I was non binary. I would often say that I
felt less and less like a boy every day, but
now I realize it really was every day I was
feeling more and more like a girl. And now it
feels like I get to honor that inner child within
me that knew that so long ago, and I finally
get to be that person. And I really am so
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excited for you to all meet girl Dylan, and she's
really excited to meet you too.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
As he made his public debut, Malveny came up with
an idea. Each day he would document his transition by
posting a video to TikTok, but almost immediately he pissed
people off.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Okay, I've managed to offend women on my first day
of being one, and I just feel terrible about it.
Day four of being a girl, and I am exhausted.
The hair, the makeup, the clothes, the high heels, it's
a lot to keep up with, and I need to
learn early on that those things do not make me
a girl. It's what's in here that matters. And I
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actually didn't shave my face today because I was like, Dyl,
even with your facial hair, you're a girl.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
He'd go on adventures, then post a short video clip
of this escapades.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It's my first trip to the hormone doctor, and I
left with a prescription for estrogen and a testosterone blocker.
But I'm not sure if I'm going to start them yet,
because this is a huge life decision that I think
I should really think through and take some time to
decide for myself.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
And almost immediately he made his decision.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I am starting estrogen. I'm gonna do it. I feel
so good about this to say, and I'm choosing to
include you. But this is mostly like a little diary
entry for me so that I can look back on
this moment and who knows, maybe share it with my
kids one day. All right, bottoms up, Hi, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I'm like, where am I need to What started off
as a pee wee herman like shtick had now morphed
into a transgender promotional campaign targeting children in a healthy
functioning society. This would have been stopped dead in its tracks,
but what came next would eventually put Mulvany's little social
media project in the national spotlight.
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pilled America. So five year old biological male Dylan mulvaney
decided he wanted to use TikTok to document his transition,
his approach was disturbing because he wasn't just trying to
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be a woman. He often presented himself as the caricature
of a preteen girl.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
The word girl feels great because I never got to
be one growing up.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And at the time his project appeared to be one
big exercise controlling.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Day twelve of being a girl and I just picked
up some tampons, and y'all are probably thinking, Dylan, where
are you going to put those? They're not for me.
I decided, you know what, I'm always going to have
one on hand for anyone who needs it. You come
over to my house and we're having a glass of wine,
I got a tampon for you. We're in the club together,
and then we go to the bathroom. I got a
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tampon for you. Women supporting women.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
After about a month of his project, mulvaney caught the
eye of Good Morning America, which published a feature on
his TikTok campaign. His message started reaching the masses.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Hey, it's day thirty five of being a girl, and
I'm about to go into my therapy session. So here's
some questions that I have for my therapists today. Number One,
why am I still single? Number Two? When will my grow.
Day fifty nine of being a girl and I have
now been kat called multiple times. I think the funniest
one was this guy that was like.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I love your bos I love your bombs.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Little does he know that they're just fake chicken cutlets,
but don't tell him.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Less than eight months into his project, astonishingly, Alvany got
the attention of the Biden White House.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's day two twenty two of being a girl. I'm
in Washington, d C. And I'm going to the White
House to speak to the President of the United States. Well,
I get to sit down with Joe Biden and I
get to ask him a few questions surrounding trans issues
in the United States.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
The transgender entering the Biden White House was nothing new,
His administration was littered with them. But what stood out
about mulvaney was that he was venturing to DC to
push his lifestyle on the youth of America.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Trans kids. They deserve a fighting chance to be their
true selves. Okay, we're about to go. Is there anything
of my team?
Speaker 12 (14:06):
We're going to move on now to trans rites. There
have been many anti LGBTQ plus bills introduced and enacted
outlawing things like gender affirming healthcare and betting kids from
playing sports. To go deeper into this issue, here with
us today is still in mulvaney.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Mister President, this is my two and twenty first day
of publicly transitioning. God love me, Thank you, And do
you have any messages to the families of trans folks
that are seeking, you know, options for their children but
are struggling to find resources. Do you have a message
to those parents? Yeah? I do so.
Speaker 13 (14:47):
I just think it's a matter of leaders speaking out.
Things are changing, but it's a matter of u sicknology
that there's nothing to be just because it's different, there's
nothing to be fearful about.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
In less than a year from launching his Girlhood project,
Dylan mulvaney had reached the leader of the free world.
It was an astonishingly quick rise, but trouble was brewing.
About a month before meeting Old Joe, mulvaney brought his
girl stick to the Forbes woman cement, I still get.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So much criticism for calling myself a girl.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Women were outraged that mulvany was taking on the persona
of a little girl, comparing what he was doing to blackface.
A few weeks later, he appeared on a podcast by
beauty retailer Alta Beauty.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Welcome Dylan Mulvany, Woo, Hello all the Joy.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The show was hosted by another transgender social media star,
and Mulvainy continued to push people's buttons.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I know I can find love. I know I can
still be a performer. I want to have a family.
I want to be a mom one day, and I
absolutely can.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
The backlash was immediate. People called for a boycott of Alta.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Alta is receiving major backlash for tweeting out this video.
I know that I can have a family. I want
to be a mom one day, and I absolutely can.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
The TikTok star scoffed off the controversy.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
So apparently I've caused a boycott of a very large
retail chain simply for being trans.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It was clear that there was a growing disgust and
outrage over Mulvany's campaign, especially among people that could be
considered normal folks. Any brand that touched Maulvainy better have
had its mission an audience perfectly aligned with his extremely
controversial message, or there would be a price to pay.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Enter Alissa Heinerscheid vice president of Marketing for bud Light.
Speaker 14 (16:34):
I had a really clear job to do when I
took over bud Light, and it was this brand is
in decline. It's been in decline for a really long time.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Heinerscheid thought the frat boy persona of bud Light was
part of the problem.
Speaker 14 (16:47):
And we had this hangover. I mean, bud Light had
been kind of a brand of fraddy, kind of out
of touch humor, and it was really important that we
had another approach. If we do not attract young drinkers
to come and drink this brand, there will be no
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future for bud Light.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So I had this super clear manning.
Speaker 14 (17:10):
It's like, we need to evolve and elevate this incredibly
iconic brand. What I brought to that was a belief
in Okay, what does evolve and elevate mean. It means inclusivity,
It means shifting the tone. It means having a campaign
that's truly inclusive and feels lighter and brighter and different
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and appeals to women and to men.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
And of course, what would appeal to women and men
more than a biological man pretending to be a preteen girl.
Heinerscheid pulled the trigger on a campaign with Dylan mulvaney.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
This month, I celebrated my day three sixty five of womanhood,
and bud Light sent me possibly the best gift ever,
a can with my face on it.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
The situation was ready to blow. All that was needed
was someone to light the match. That person would be
rap icon Kid Rock. Grandpa is feeling a little frisky today.
Speaker 12 (18:04):
Let me say.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Something to all you and be as clear and concise
as possible.
Speaker 15 (18:10):
Kid Rock made his feelings known when he posted this
video shooting up cases of bud Light.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Bud Light, if van Heus or Bush have a terrific day.
But it was conservative firebrand Matt Walsh that provided the
rationale for why conservatives should embark on a ruthless boycott
of bud Light.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
It's true that every major corporation is woke. They all
are right, and so we can't realistically boycott all of them,
but we can pick some of them. We have the power,
We have the ability to make some of these companies
go bro. The left is they're very good at doing this.
They pick someone, they pick a victim, and they make
an example of them. Okay, they pick somebody out, whether
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it's an individual or a company that has offended them,
has crossed them, and they say, we're going to take
you down.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
We're going to destroy you.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You have become our personal project, and they'll stay on
it until they tear this this victim down. Now, on
the right, we could do the same kind of thing,
and the only difference is that we're choosing people and
companies that actually deserve it, and we'd be wielding this
power for good. So, yeah, we can't make all the
woke companies go broke, not not even close to it.
But we could choose one company that does something outrageous
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to alienate and spit in the faces of their own
customer base, and we could say, Okay, we've chosen you,
and we're going to bankrupt you, because in reality, there
are millions and millions of us, and you do need
us to buy your product, and if we don't, you're
going to suffer.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Within days, bud Light was feeling the heat of a conservative.
Speaker 16 (19:46):
Boycott, pours a bud Light to decline six percent on
the first half of April.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
People thought it would only last a few days and
then peter out, like most other boycotts do, but instead
it only got bigger and bigger.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
All right.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Anhuser Busch still reeling from its folk stone promoting bud
Light with transgender activist Dylan mulvaney.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
The bud Light.
Speaker 17 (20:07):
Boycott, the one tanking sales by more than twenty eight
percent over the last four weeks.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Bud Lights parent company are revealing in an earnings call
they're down nearly four hundred million dollars in revenue following
their controversial campaign with transgender influencer Dylan mulvaney.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
I mean, think about this.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
It costs Anheuser Busch.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
It cost mbev twenty seven billion dollars in market cap
and a four hundred million dollar loss in real revenue
to realize that people just want to drink their beer
without a debate again.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Anton Freericks, author of last Call for bud Light social media,
and people.
Speaker 10 (20:40):
Were posting lines like that at ballparks, you know, at
baseball games. It was like, here's the bud lightline, nobody
in it. Here's the cores lightline with like twenty people on,
you know. And then there's also data every single week
that's released by data providers. It's like every week you
were showing sales down thirty percent, thirty five percent you know,
forty percent in certain cases, and so they couldn't starve
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the public of data. So it just became a store
that kept feeding on itself.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
An iSER Busch plans to buy back cans of expired
bud Light beer from wholesalers after experiencing a drop in
sales in the wake of the brand's partnership with transgender
influencer Dylan Mulvainy.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
By aligning with Dylan Mulvainy, bud Light put itself right
in the middle of one of the most controversial issues
in America.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
It's quite simple.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
People just don't want to shove down their throat.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
No bud Light because it's like I have grandchildren. We
don't need to put that.
Speaker 12 (21:33):
In the young kids.
Speaker 18 (21:33):
Hence, the Democrat Party on issues of culture has gone
really extreme. This is a party that embraces medical transition,
sex changes for children eight nine ten year old children,
medical surgeries, sterilizing kids, removing perfectly healthy body parts.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
I got to say, I think that is extreme. I
think that's child abuse.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
The purpose of a brand is to unite people and
bring them together as a sense of community. Instead, we
have a brand in crime. Is this created a rainbow
of hell for itself.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Bud Light's rain as the top selling beer in America
is over.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
Budlight's drop from the top comes after it sparked outrage
from conservatives for partnering with transgender influencer Dylan mulvaney.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It has been really surprising to see the amount of
impact this has had on Aneiser Busch. Usually Boycott's blow
over and this one didn't.
Speaker 11 (22:27):
The particular problem that bud Light ran into was that
they sort of touched a nerve with their some of
their core constituency, you know of bud Light drinkers.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And I think the company greatly miscalculated what they thought
was being inclusive, but it really was divisive.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Blud Light's alignment with Dylan mulvaney was one of the
biggest business missteps in American history. Their dip into politics
was a monumental mistake, the kind that business school based
entire courses around the companies getting involved in politics. Does
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Speaker 1 (24:33):
Welcome back to Red Pilled America. When the head of
Sticker Mule decided to dip his company's toe into politics,
he never could have guessed how far his opponents would
be willing to go to destroy him.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
My mayor lost his mind and he tried to throw
me in jail over the sign.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That's Anthony Constantino, co founder and CEO of Sticker Mule.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
I'm from Maseratoga County. Fifteen years ago. Me and my
friend we're talking one night. I just said it'd be
cool at start an internet company. And he was in
his seventies. He actually didn't even use a computer. He
got through his whole career, he never used a computer.
He actually said that what the hell the people even
do on the internet. And I said, let me show you,
and I opened up the laptop and I showed him
a few websites.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
The two parted ways, but the next day his friend
returned and he.
Speaker 9 (25:14):
Said, Anthony spinned up all last night with a bottle
of vodka. I drank a bottle inside. When you started
internet company to goet her, I said, well, let me,
let me get back down and maybe we're doing a
few months or so. I got some stuff going on.
He said, no, you're already five years too late. We
got to start right now. And so he said, tell
me I want to do it. I'll call you a check.
And I said, all right, let's do it. He caught
me at check.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Three months later, in twenty ten, they launched sticker Mule,
an online custom printing service, and.
Speaker 9 (25:40):
It just took off. It took off very quickly.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Sticker Mule started off purely as a sticker printer, and
as a result, at its core it was a company
centered on personal expression. By twenty sixteen, it was driving.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
My company's was maybe three or four hundred people at
the time.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
But as Election Day twenty sixteen approached violence.
Speaker 16 (26:03):
The violent and bloody clashes outside of Donald Trump event
protesters attacking Trump supporters. Those supporters were attacked as they
left the convention center in sam Jose overnight. Some punched,
some chased down and beaten. Others had bottles thrown at them.
Speaker 15 (26:19):
Anti Trump protesters hunting down the very people who backed Trump.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
The CEO of Sticker Mule, decided to speak up.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
I held a few tweets in support of the president.
I made a five hundred dollars nation.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But when he woke up the next morning, the poop
was hitting the fan.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
Some Democrat activists posted that just so you know, don't
like Sticker Mual too too much because it's owned by
a Trump supporter. And somebody posted that and put it
out there, went viral and everybody went nuts. And you
know what they were trying to do is intimidate people
into silence, so that people that supported President Trump couldn't
speak up. All the good people to hire IQ people
were bullied into thing quiet.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
The backlash got I'm just thinking, I.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
Said to my more maga friends back then, I said,
I'm going to build this thing to be a lot stronger,
and when I do feel like standing out, I'm to
be able to do so more effectively, and I'm not
going to be intimidated.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
But surprisingly, after coming out for Trump, Sticker Mule only
got bigger. The next year, Anthony added more products to
his services. Aside from stickers, the company offered custom labels, packaging, magnets,
and buttons. He eventually set up a factory in Amsterdam,
New York, about one hundred and sixty miles northwest of Manhattan.
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He'd open factories in South Carolina and Italy. By twenty
twenty four, Sticker Mule had grown by leaps and bounds,
extending the business to thirty nine countries.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
Twelve hundred people. Company and one of the pioneers of
what's now called remote work wasn't called remote work back then.
I just started hiring people all over the place.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It had become the strong company Anthony had strived to
create so that someday he could take a stand. And
on July thirteenth, twenty twenty four, Anthony's goal was put
to the test. And you know that's a little bit
all that Charch's a couple of months old.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
And if you want to.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Really see something that said, take a look at what happened.
Speaker 9 (28:15):
I was actually about to get a haircut and President
Trump gets shot.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Secret Service just a moment ago put out a statement
saying that during the Trump campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania,
at approximately six fifteen pm Eastern Time, a suspected shooter
fired multiple shots towards the stage from an elevated position
outside of the rally venue. The Secret Service personnel neutralized
the shooter, who is now deceased.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
A friend called me and he said President Trump was
just shot. So I looked on X and I started
searching and I saw, you know, he was shot. I
saw the blood, and I said, you know, I'm an endorsement,
and I immediately wrote an endorsement. I was getting my haircut.
I wrote the endorsement and put it on X through
Sticker Meles X account and went super viral. Twelve million
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views on X Just want to exploded because at the time,
people are still scared to say they liked them, particularly
people at my level of success ahead brands like my brand.
Millions of people know my company, and so I put
on X. It exploded twelve million views.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
After the ex post, he decided to double down.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
I took it a step further and I ended up
emailing the same endorsement outs in my five million customers.
So then it really exploded. It was Wall Street Journal,
Boston Globe, Fox covered it, and I wrote this really
nice endorsement. It simply said something to the effect of
people at Sticker Mill support Biden and other support Trump.
I happened to be one of the people that support Trump.
We all get along, behave for Trump's borders needs to
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come to an end. It doesn't make any sense. It
was a pretty nice email. I thought it was persuasive,
because you know, I was showing empathy to both sides.
Believe it or not. I flipped a lot of people
because I had a number of Democrat friends called me
and they said, Anthony, and I heard you wrote this
horrible thing. He posted this horrible endorsement of President Trump.
And then I read it and I thought it actually
was a really nice endorsement that made a lot of sense,
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and I agreed with what you said.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But he was getting some public backlash.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
I was getting one hundred thousand emails a day for
about a week, just hate mail saying I'm going to
kill you or you should kill yourself.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
But there was no indication that these were customers.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
So I said, no, what I have to do is
continue advocating for the president. So I just started doing
everything I could. I started making videos in support of
the president. A few of them went viral if someone
were shared by Trump Junior. I come up with the
concept but Trump for Peace, I mean Trump for the
Peace T shirt I was given away. I gave away
millions of Trump stickers. Put Instead of saying incendiary things,
I said happy things like awesome, people loved Trump. And
(30:35):
I said what else could I do? And I ended
up eventually putting up this sign. I said vote for Trump.
I put on top of my tallest factory building in Ampstead,
New York. Was visible by the Throuway. So it wasn't
just a sign. It was artistically designed and then it
was hand crafted, forged out of steel. It illuminated at night,
it went on, you know, it had some nice technology
and it it lit up just as the sun went
down on its own, and it was a beautiful sign.
(30:57):
We put it up, we displayed it.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
But just as Anthony erected the sign, the Democrat may
of Amsterdam, Michael Sinquante, stepped in, claiming that it was
a threat to public safety. The mayor got a judge
to issue a restraining order.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
My lawyers called me and they said, look, if you
violate a restraining order that says that you're threatening public
safety or threatening the welfare of other people, the action
that's going to be taken by the judicial systems to
throw you in jail for non compliance with a restraining order.
You're going to be viewed as somebody that's trying to
hurt other people.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
Prominent local business owner in Amsterdam is causing quite a
stir with a massive political sign, the CEO of Sticker
Mule making headlines with a vote for Trump display, even
though it is raising some red flags with Code enflicement.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So Anthony got his team together and they figured out
a way to cover it up. But he wasn't going
to let the mayor get away with this.
Speaker 9 (31:51):
I said, look, you know, I'm not going to be intimidated.
I'm gonna throw a massive party. So I threw this
massive party answered this thing called the Sign Lighting Party.
Five or six thousand people showed up. People flew in
from all over the country. That they flew in from
as far as California. And as the event was going on,
I had no idea what was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
As the event kicked off, Anthony's lawyers were at the courthouse.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
I went in to judge and they said, listen, this
guy's never done anything wrong in his life. He's a
great member of the community. Can you please give us
an emergency session to review the case. We don't want
him to go to jail, and judge says, okay, I'll
give you an emergency session. And my lawyer spent all
day arguing and negotiating with the judge to say, look,
this is straining order, makes no sense. This guy's not
threatening anybody. This sign is going to threat the public safety.
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It's an expression of free speech. They'd spent all day negotiating,
and I kept saying, what's going on. They said, we
haven't made it. We haven't, we haven't reached any agreement yet.
You got up to calm yourself down. You can't go
forward with this. You're going to end up in jail
if there was a number of police who were on
standby to arrest me.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Anthony Constantino went all in on the cause, a cause
that happened to align with his company. Stickers are essentially
a platform for personal expression. What he was doing with
the sign complimented the mission of Sticker Mule, and it
also happened to be what he believed in.
Speaker 9 (33:03):
So we pressed on and about five o'clock my events started.
At five thirty or six at the judge finally side
of my legal team, and they counted. They threw the
restraining order out and they said I was right along
that the mayor put in place of phony restraining order
and said, look, you're free to light to sign, no issues.
You're all clear that police got the order to stand down.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
So Anthony pulled the trigger.
Speaker 16 (33:25):
We've begain tonight over in Amsterdam, that is where that
Vote for Trumps sign was just revealed on the Sticker
Mule building.
Speaker 15 (33:31):
Tonight, the CEO of Sticker Mule, Anthony Constantino, hosted a
rally garnering massive support to light it up. A Vote
for Trump's sign now sits lit up atop the former
Founs building in Amsterdam.
Speaker 14 (33:45):
This is all following a court order telling Sticker Mule
that they couldn't have the sign up.
Speaker 15 (33:50):
Sticker Mule CEO Anthony Constantino defended the sign, claiming it
was within his rights to express political views and that
the sign complies with free speech protections.
Speaker 9 (34:01):
Yeah. I believe in free speech, and I believe in
calming the tangos in the country, and I think this
sign is going to be a landmark. It's going to
be an exciting sign for everyone. It's gonna be one
of those signs like the Las Vegas sign or like
the Hollywood sign of people are going to want to
come the see forever. So I think it's great for
the community.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It was a smashing success. Anthony Constantino's company won the day.
So why did Sticker Meals succeed while bud Light failed
in an epic fashion ants and freericks may have the answer.
Speaker 10 (34:32):
There's a lot of business they give back to certain
charities or they get involved with, you know, certain organizations.
This has been something that you like, going back to
biblical times. So the Bible has a has a verse.
It's Proverbs sixteen to eight, which says better is a
little with righteousness than great revenues with injustice. And so
there's something to be speaking about of when should businesses,
you know, get involved in certain issues or certain political issues.
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And I think like, really the right balance is that
there's something that's related to a company's mission. That's when
they should really think about.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Maybe leaning Today Anthony Constantino is leaning into politics. President
Trump appointed US Congresswoman Elise Stefanick to be US Ambassador
to the United Nations. Anthony is running for the New
York twenty first congressional district seat she vacated as Franz
and Frearicks. After leaving bud Light in twenty twenty two,
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he co founded a wealth management company called Strive and
his co founder is an old high school buddy by
the name of Vivek Ramaswami, which.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Leads us back to the question when should companies get political.
The answer is clear, companies should get political when the
cause aligns with the company's mission.
Speaker 10 (35:51):
I mean, it took a look over the forty year history,
but Light it became the biggest beer brand United States
because it was all about things that brought people over.
The sports, it was music, it was backyard barbecause like
never touched any political and then all of a sudden
when they did this partnership with Dylan Molvany, who has
become one of the most controversial figures of the whole
transgender movement. Dylan was at the White House with Biden
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advocating for gender affirmation care for people under the age
of eighteen, which was one of the most divisive and
contentious issues over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
None of that was related to bud Light's mission. Bud
Light was a guys beer that brought guys together in celebration.
Speaker 10 (36:29):
I mean this was the brand that drank at football
games and at tailgates and concerts, and.
Speaker 9 (36:34):
It was a manly type of brand.
Speaker 10 (36:36):
So when this company all of a sudden was like
doing this partnership with like Dylan Molvani, that's when regular
Americans really woke up and said.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Just enough's enough.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
In the case of Anthony Constantino, his Trumps sign was
about free expression that perfectly aligned with the mission of
his company, and the result was a whopping success. Well,
bud Light lost billions in value, and it appears that
many companies are now learning from their mistake.
Speaker 17 (37:00):
Target announcing it is rolling back diversity and inclusion programs
at the company. In a mellow to employees, the Minneapolis
based company says it will end it's three year DEI goals,
stop reports to external diversity focused groups, and end a
program focused on carrying more products from black or minority
owned businesses.
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Sometimes these corporate efforts lead to praise, other times to disaster,
which begs the question when should companies get political. I'm
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should companies get political? To find the answer, we're going
to tell the story of two companies that took the
plunge into politics, bud Light and Sticker Mule. Along the way,
we hear from Anson Freericks, former president of Anheuser Busch
Sales and Distribution company, an author of Last Call for
bud Light, we also hear from Anthony Constantino, CEO of
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Sticker Mule. Both bud Light and Sticker Mule got involved
in a controversial issue, but only one came out better
for their effort, and the reason why should be a
cautionary tale to companies that want to dip their toe
into the political ring.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
I guess you can say bud Light started to bleed
in early April twenty twenty three when it aligned with
a controversial figure.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Day twelve of Being a Girl and I just picked
up some tampons.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
As part of a March Madness basketball promotion, Ann heeuser
Busch teamed with transgender TikTok celeb Dylan Mulbany to promote
what was then America's most popular beer brand.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
I got some bud Lights for us. I kept hearing
about this thing called March Madness. It turns out it
has something to do with sports, and I'm not sure
exactly which sport. Either way, it's a cost to celebrate.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Bud Light had been doing promotions with the LGBTQ community
for decades, but in this particular promotion, the frat Boy
beer brand decided to piggyback on a very special day
for the rising trans Star.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
This month, I celebrated my day three sixty five of womanhood,
and bud Light sent me possibly the best gift ever,
a ken with my face on it. Check out my
Instagram story to see how you can enjoy March Madness
with bud Light and maybe win some money too well.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
Came next was perhaps one of the most successful boycotts
in American history.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
People that did not like the message, they took it
out by basically boycotting the product.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Bud Light boycott the one tanking sales by more than
twenty eight.
Speaker 6 (05:32):
Percent over the last four weeks.
Speaker 7 (05:33):
Bud Light's rain as the top selling beer in America
is over.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
Budlights drop from the top comes after it sparked outrage
from conservatives for partnering with transgender influencer Dylan mulvaney the.
Speaker 9 (05:45):
Whole Dylan mlvniy. You know it's one post.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
That's Anson Freerricks, former president of Anheuser Busch Sales and
Distribution Company and author of Last Call for bud Light,
The Fall and Future of America's favorite beer.
Speaker 10 (05:57):
But like one post, all of a sudden has become
the poster child of what went wrong? Really, what I'll
call it the whole stakeholder capitalism psg DEI movement.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Anson is right. The bud Light promotion was just one post,
but it was at the tail end of a jaw
dropping year for Dylan mulvaney and the transgender movement, a
year that should have been one big red flag to
the beer brand. When bud Light connected with the social
media star in twenty twenty three, he was not new
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to celebrity. Mulvaney had been a theater actor for years,
playing in the US touring rendition of the Book of Mormon.
But at the outbreak of COVID nineteen, when all live
events were halted in twenty twenty, maulvaney looked for an
outlet to keep himself occupied, and that's when he found TikTok.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Move over, old McDonald, there's a new farmer in town.
I'm Dylan today. We're on the farm and we're seapherting.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
Let's go. He started by making cringey skits for the
social media platform.
Speaker 2 (07:04):
Who would like an interview? Would you like an interview?
Speaker 11 (07:06):
I'm offering hey and an IMDb credit.
Speaker 4 (07:09):
The skinny, pasty skinned white man dressed in outlandish attire
and pranced around like a child. That what Malvani was
doing at the time was not necessarily original. It was
just a modern twist to the peewee herman character made
popular in the nineteen eighties.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
What do we do now? I know, Let's go look
at my toys.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
For the next two years, Malvany found his niche comedic
skits interviewing animals. It was abundantly clear that he was
a gay man, and his videos got some traction, but
it wasn't until early twenty twenty two that Malvani's popularity
on TikTok exploded.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
I am a girl. I am a trans woman. My
new pronouns are she and they and I suppose that
this is my coming out video.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Of sorts, Malvainy did not just come out as a
transsexual female. The twenty five year old biological male often
presented as a caricature of a little girl with girly
Borett's in his shoulder length hair and preteen style earrings.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
I got my ears pierced, so I picked this little
gold star because it reminded me of stickers at school.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Malvany claimed he'd grown up in a conservative household while.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
I was non binary. I would often say that I
felt less and less like a boy every day, but
now I realize it really was every day I was
feeling more and more like a girl. And now it
feels like I get to honor that inner child within
me that knew that so long ago, and I finally
get to be that person. And I really am so
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excited for you to all meet girl Dylan, and she's
really excited to meet you too.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
As he made his public debut, Malveny came up with
an idea. Each day he would document his transition by
posting a video to TikTok, but almost immediately he pissed
people off.
Speaker 2 (09:03):
Okay, I've managed to offend women on my first day
of being one, and I just feel terrible about it.
Day four of being a girl, and I am exhausted.
The hair, the makeup, the clothes, the high heels, it's
a lot to keep up with, and I need to
learn early on that those things do not make me
a girl. It's what's in here that matters. And I
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actually didn't shave my face today because I was like, Dyl,
even with your facial hair, you're a girl.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
He'd go on adventures, then post a short video clip
of this escapades.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
It's my first trip to the hormone doctor, and I
left with a prescription for estrogen and a testosterone blocker.
But I'm not sure if I'm going to start them yet,
because this is a huge life decision that I think
I should really think through and take some time to
decide for myself.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
And almost immediately he made his decision.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
I am starting estrogen. I'm gonna do it. I feel
so good about this to say, and I'm choosing to
include you. But this is mostly like a little diary
entry for me so that I can look back on
this moment and who knows, maybe share it with my
kids one day. All right, bottoms up, Hi, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
I'm like, where am I need to What started off
as a pee wee herman like shtick had now morphed
into a transgender promotional campaign targeting children in a healthy
functioning society. This would have been stopped dead in its tracks,
but what came next would eventually put Mulvany's little social
media project in the national spotlight.
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pilled America. So five year old biological male Dylan mulvaney
decided he wanted to use TikTok to document his transition,
his approach was disturbing because he wasn't just trying to
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be a woman. He often presented himself as the caricature
of a preteen girl.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
The word girl feels great because I never got to
be one growing up.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
And at the time his project appeared to be one
big exercise controlling.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Day twelve of being a girl and I just picked
up some tampons, and y'all are probably thinking, Dylan, where
are you going to put those? They're not for me.
I decided, you know what, I'm always going to have
one on hand for anyone who needs it. You come
over to my house and we're having a glass of wine,
I got a tampon for you. We're in the club together,
and then we go to the bathroom. I got a
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tampon for you. Women supporting women.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
After about a month of his project, mulvaney caught the
eye of Good Morning America, which published a feature on
his TikTok campaign. His message started reaching the masses.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
Hey, it's day thirty five of being a girl, and
I'm about to go into my therapy session. So here's
some questions that I have for my therapists today. Number One,
why am I still single? Number Two? When will my grow.
Day fifty nine of being a girl and I have
now been kat called multiple times. I think the funniest
one was this guy that was like.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
I love your bos I love your bombs.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Little does he know that they're just fake chicken cutlets,
but don't tell him.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Less than eight months into his project, astonishingly, Alvany got
the attention of the Biden White House.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
It's day two twenty two of being a girl. I'm
in Washington, d C. And I'm going to the White
House to speak to the President of the United States. Well,
I get to sit down with Joe Biden and I
get to ask him a few questions surrounding trans issues
in the United States.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
The transgender entering the Biden White House was nothing new,
His administration was littered with them. But what stood out
about mulvaney was that he was venturing to DC to
push his lifestyle on the youth of America.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Trans kids. They deserve a fighting chance to be their
true selves. Okay, we're about to go. Is there anything
of my team?
Speaker 12 (14:06):
We're going to move on now to trans rites. There
have been many anti LGBTQ plus bills introduced and enacted
outlawing things like gender affirming healthcare and betting kids from
playing sports. To go deeper into this issue, here with
us today is still in mulvaney.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
Mister President, this is my two and twenty first day
of publicly transitioning. God love me, Thank you, And do
you have any messages to the families of trans folks
that are seeking, you know, options for their children but
are struggling to find resources. Do you have a message
to those parents? Yeah? I do so.
Speaker 13 (14:47):
I just think it's a matter of leaders speaking out.
Things are changing, but it's a matter of u sicknology
that there's nothing to be just because it's different, there's
nothing to be fearful about.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
In less than a year from launching his Girlhood project,
Dylan mulvaney had reached the leader of the free world.
It was an astonishingly quick rise, but trouble was brewing.
About a month before meeting Old Joe, mulvaney brought his
girl stick to the Forbes woman cement, I still get.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
So much criticism for calling myself a girl.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Women were outraged that mulvany was taking on the persona
of a little girl, comparing what he was doing to blackface.
A few weeks later, he appeared on a podcast by
beauty retailer Alta Beauty.
Speaker 2 (15:33):
Welcome Dylan Mulvany, Woo, Hello all the Joy.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
The show was hosted by another transgender social media star,
and Mulvainy continued to push people's buttons.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
I know I can find love. I know I can
still be a performer. I want to have a family.
I want to be a mom one day, and I
absolutely can.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
The backlash was immediate. People called for a boycott of Alta.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Alta is receiving major backlash for tweeting out this video.
I know that I can have a family. I want
to be a mom one day, and I absolutely can.
Speaker 1 (16:03):
The TikTok star scoffed off the controversy.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
So apparently I've caused a boycott of a very large
retail chain simply for being trans.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It was clear that there was a growing disgust and
outrage over Mulvany's campaign, especially among people that could be
considered normal folks. Any brand that touched Maulvainy better have
had its mission an audience perfectly aligned with his extremely
controversial message, or there would be a price to pay.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
Enter Alissa Heinerscheid vice president of Marketing for bud Light.
Speaker 14 (16:34):
I had a really clear job to do when I
took over bud Light, and it was this brand is
in decline. It's been in decline for a really long time.
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Heinerscheid thought the frat boy persona of bud Light was
part of the problem.
Speaker 14 (16:47):
And we had this hangover. I mean, bud Light had
been kind of a brand of fraddy, kind of out
of touch humor, and it was really important that we
had another approach. If we do not attract young drinkers
to come and drink this brand, there will be no
(17:07):
future for bud Light.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
So I had this super clear manning.
Speaker 14 (17:10):
It's like, we need to evolve and elevate this incredibly
iconic brand. What I brought to that was a belief
in Okay, what does evolve and elevate mean. It means inclusivity,
It means shifting the tone. It means having a campaign
that's truly inclusive and feels lighter and brighter and different
(17:30):
and appeals to women and to men.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
And of course, what would appeal to women and men
more than a biological man pretending to be a preteen girl.
Heinerscheid pulled the trigger on a campaign with Dylan mulvaney.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
This month, I celebrated my day three sixty five of womanhood,
and bud Light sent me possibly the best gift ever,
a can with my face on it.
Speaker 4 (17:52):
The situation was ready to blow. All that was needed
was someone to light the match. That person would be
rap icon Kid Rock. Grandpa is feeling a little frisky today.
Speaker 12 (18:04):
Let me say.
Speaker 4 (18:05):
Something to all you and be as clear and concise
as possible.
Speaker 15 (18:10):
Kid Rock made his feelings known when he posted this
video shooting up cases of bud Light.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Bud Light, if van Heus or Bush have a terrific day.
But it was conservative firebrand Matt Walsh that provided the
rationale for why conservatives should embark on a ruthless boycott
of bud Light.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
It's true that every major corporation is woke. They all
are right, and so we can't realistically boycott all of them,
but we can pick some of them. We have the power,
We have the ability to make some of these companies
go bro. The left is they're very good at doing this.
They pick someone, they pick a victim, and they make
an example of them. Okay, they pick somebody out, whether
(18:54):
it's an individual or a company that has offended them,
has crossed them, and they say, we're going to take
you down.
Speaker 9 (19:00):
We're going to destroy you.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
You have become our personal project, and they'll stay on
it until they tear this this victim down. Now, on
the right, we could do the same kind of thing,
and the only difference is that we're choosing people and
companies that actually deserve it, and we'd be wielding this
power for good. So, yeah, we can't make all the
woke companies go broke, not not even close to it.
But we could choose one company that does something outrageous
(19:27):
to alienate and spit in the faces of their own
customer base, and we could say, Okay, we've chosen you,
and we're going to bankrupt you, because in reality, there
are millions and millions of us, and you do need
us to buy your product, and if we don't, you're
going to suffer.
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Within days, bud Light was feeling the heat of a conservative.
Speaker 16 (19:46):
Boycott, pours a bud Light to decline six percent on
the first half of April.
Speaker 4 (19:51):
People thought it would only last a few days and
then peter out, like most other boycotts do, but instead
it only got bigger and bigger.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
All right.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
Anhuser Busch still reeling from its folk stone promoting bud
Light with transgender activist Dylan mulvaney.
Speaker 9 (20:06):
The bud Light.
Speaker 17 (20:07):
Boycott, the one tanking sales by more than twenty eight
percent over the last four weeks.
Speaker 5 (20:12):
Bud Lights parent company are revealing in an earnings call
they're down nearly four hundred million dollars in revenue following
their controversial campaign with transgender influencer Dylan mulvaney.
Speaker 9 (20:22):
I mean, think about this.
Speaker 6 (20:24):
It costs Anheuser Busch.
Speaker 10 (20:25):
It cost mbev twenty seven billion dollars in market cap
and a four hundred million dollar loss in real revenue
to realize that people just want to drink their beer
without a debate again.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
Anton Freericks, author of last Call for bud Light social media,
and people.
Speaker 10 (20:40):
Were posting lines like that at ballparks, you know, at
baseball games. It was like, here's the bud lightline, nobody
in it. Here's the cores lightline with like twenty people on,
you know. And then there's also data every single week
that's released by data providers. It's like every week you
were showing sales down thirty percent, thirty five percent you know,
forty percent in certain cases, and so they couldn't starve
(21:01):
the public of data. So it just became a store
that kept feeding on itself.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
An iSER Busch plans to buy back cans of expired
bud Light beer from wholesalers after experiencing a drop in
sales in the wake of the brand's partnership with transgender
influencer Dylan Mulvainy.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
By aligning with Dylan Mulvainy, bud Light put itself right
in the middle of one of the most controversial issues
in America.
Speaker 9 (21:25):
It's quite simple.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
People just don't want to shove down their throat.
Speaker 9 (21:28):
No bud Light because it's like I have grandchildren. We
don't need to put that.
Speaker 12 (21:33):
In the young kids.
Speaker 18 (21:33):
Hence, the Democrat Party on issues of culture has gone
really extreme. This is a party that embraces medical transition,
sex changes for children eight nine ten year old children,
medical surgeries, sterilizing kids, removing perfectly healthy body parts.
Speaker 6 (21:52):
I got to say, I think that is extreme. I
think that's child abuse.
Speaker 9 (21:57):
The purpose of a brand is to unite people and
bring them together as a sense of community. Instead, we
have a brand in crime. Is this created a rainbow
of hell for itself.
Speaker 7 (22:05):
Bud Light's rain as the top selling beer in America
is over.
Speaker 8 (22:09):
Budlight's drop from the top comes after it sparked outrage
from conservatives for partnering with transgender influencer Dylan mulvaney.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
It has been really surprising to see the amount of
impact this has had on Aneiser Busch. Usually Boycott's blow
over and this one didn't.
Speaker 11 (22:27):
The particular problem that bud Light ran into was that
they sort of touched a nerve with their some of
their core constituency, you know of bud Light drinkers.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
And I think the company greatly miscalculated what they thought
was being inclusive, but it really was divisive.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Blud Light's alignment with Dylan mulvaney was one of the
biggest business missteps in American history. Their dip into politics
was a monumental mistake, the kind that business school based
entire courses around the companies getting involved in politics. Does
not always turn out this way. Sometimes its a new star.
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Speaker 1 (24:33):
Welcome back to Red Pilled America. When the head of
Sticker Mule decided to dip his company's toe into politics,
he never could have guessed how far his opponents would
be willing to go to destroy him.
Speaker 9 (24:45):
My mayor lost his mind and he tried to throw
me in jail over the sign.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
That's Anthony Constantino, co founder and CEO of Sticker Mule.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
I'm from Maseratoga County. Fifteen years ago. Me and my
friend we're talking one night. I just said it'd be
cool at start an internet company. And he was in
his seventies. He actually didn't even use a computer. He
got through his whole career, he never used a computer.
He actually said that what the hell the people even
do on the internet. And I said, let me show you,
and I opened up the laptop and I showed him
a few websites.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
The two parted ways, but the next day his friend
returned and he.
Speaker 9 (25:14):
Said, Anthony spinned up all last night with a bottle
of vodka. I drank a bottle inside. When you started
internet company to goet her, I said, well, let me,
let me get back down and maybe we're doing a
few months or so. I got some stuff going on.
He said, no, you're already five years too late. We
got to start right now. And so he said, tell
me I want to do it. I'll call you a check.
And I said, all right, let's do it. He caught
me at check.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
Three months later, in twenty ten, they launched sticker Mule,
an online custom printing service, and.
Speaker 9 (25:40):
It just took off. It took off very quickly.
Speaker 1 (25:45):
Sticker Mule started off purely as a sticker printer, and
as a result, at its core it was a company
centered on personal expression. By twenty sixteen, it was driving.
Speaker 9 (25:55):
My company's was maybe three or four hundred people at
the time.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
But as Election Day twenty sixteen approached violence.
Speaker 16 (26:03):
The violent and bloody clashes outside of Donald Trump event
protesters attacking Trump supporters. Those supporters were attacked as they
left the convention center in sam Jose overnight. Some punched,
some chased down and beaten. Others had bottles thrown at them.
Speaker 15 (26:19):
Anti Trump protesters hunting down the very people who backed Trump.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
The CEO of Sticker Mule, decided to speak up.
Speaker 9 (26:27):
I held a few tweets in support of the president.
I made a five hundred dollars nation.
Speaker 1 (26:31):
But when he woke up the next morning, the poop
was hitting the fan.
Speaker 9 (26:35):
Some Democrat activists posted that just so you know, don't
like Sticker Mual too too much because it's owned by
a Trump supporter. And somebody posted that and put it
out there, went viral and everybody went nuts. And you
know what they were trying to do is intimidate people
into silence, so that people that supported President Trump couldn't
speak up. All the good people to hire IQ people
were bullied into thing quiet.
Speaker 1 (26:54):
The backlash got I'm just thinking, I.
Speaker 9 (26:56):
Said to my more maga friends back then, I said,
I'm going to build this thing to be a lot stronger,
and when I do feel like standing out, I'm to
be able to do so more effectively, and I'm not
going to be intimidated.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
But surprisingly, after coming out for Trump, Sticker Mule only
got bigger. The next year, Anthony added more products to
his services. Aside from stickers, the company offered custom labels, packaging, magnets,
and buttons. He eventually set up a factory in Amsterdam,
New York, about one hundred and sixty miles northwest of Manhattan.
(27:26):
He'd open factories in South Carolina and Italy. By twenty
twenty four, Sticker Mule had grown by leaps and bounds,
extending the business to thirty nine countries.
Speaker 9 (27:36):
Twelve hundred people. Company and one of the pioneers of
what's now called remote work wasn't called remote work back then.
I just started hiring people all over the place.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
It had become the strong company Anthony had strived to
create so that someday he could take a stand. And
on July thirteenth, twenty twenty four, Anthony's goal was put
to the test. And you know that's a little bit
all that Charch's a couple of months old.
Speaker 9 (28:03):
And if you want to.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Really see something that said, take a look at what happened.
Speaker 9 (28:15):
I was actually about to get a haircut and President
Trump gets shot.
Speaker 6 (28:19):
Secret Service just a moment ago put out a statement
saying that during the Trump campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania,
at approximately six fifteen pm Eastern Time, a suspected shooter
fired multiple shots towards the stage from an elevated position
outside of the rally venue. The Secret Service personnel neutralized
the shooter, who is now deceased.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
A friend called me and he said President Trump was
just shot. So I looked on X and I started
searching and I saw, you know, he was shot. I
saw the blood, and I said, you know, I'm an endorsement,
and I immediately wrote an endorsement. I was getting my haircut.
I wrote the endorsement and put it on X through
Sticker Meles X account and went super viral. Twelve million
(29:01):
views on X Just want to exploded because at the time,
people are still scared to say they liked them, particularly
people at my level of success ahead brands like my brand.
Millions of people know my company, and so I put
on X. It exploded twelve million views.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
After the ex post, he decided to double down.
Speaker 9 (29:19):
I took it a step further and I ended up
emailing the same endorsement outs in my five million customers.
So then it really exploded. It was Wall Street Journal,
Boston Globe, Fox covered it, and I wrote this really
nice endorsement. It simply said something to the effect of
people at Sticker Mill support Biden and other support Trump.
I happened to be one of the people that support Trump.
We all get along, behave for Trump's borders needs to
(29:40):
come to an end. It doesn't make any sense. It
was a pretty nice email. I thought it was persuasive,
because you know, I was showing empathy to both sides.
Believe it or not. I flipped a lot of people
because I had a number of Democrat friends called me
and they said, Anthony, and I heard you wrote this
horrible thing. He posted this horrible endorsement of President Trump.
And then I read it and I thought it actually
was a really nice endorsement that made a lot of sense,
(30:01):
and I agreed with what you said.
Speaker 1 (30:03):
But he was getting some public backlash.
Speaker 9 (30:05):
I was getting one hundred thousand emails a day for
about a week, just hate mail saying I'm going to
kill you or you should kill yourself.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
But there was no indication that these were customers.
Speaker 9 (30:14):
So I said, no, what I have to do is
continue advocating for the president. So I just started doing
everything I could. I started making videos in support of
the president. A few of them went viral if someone
were shared by Trump Junior. I come up with the
concept but Trump for Peace, I mean Trump for the
Peace T shirt I was given away. I gave away
millions of Trump stickers. Put Instead of saying incendiary things,
I said happy things like awesome, people loved Trump. And
(30:35):
I said what else could I do? And I ended
up eventually putting up this sign. I said vote for Trump.
I put on top of my tallest factory building in Ampstead,
New York. Was visible by the Throuway. So it wasn't
just a sign. It was artistically designed and then it
was hand crafted, forged out of steel. It illuminated at night,
it went on, you know, it had some nice technology
and it it lit up just as the sun went
down on its own, and it was a beautiful sign.
(30:57):
We put it up, we displayed it.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
But just as Anthony erected the sign, the Democrat may
of Amsterdam, Michael Sinquante, stepped in, claiming that it was
a threat to public safety. The mayor got a judge
to issue a restraining order.
Speaker 9 (31:11):
My lawyers called me and they said, look, if you
violate a restraining order that says that you're threatening public
safety or threatening the welfare of other people, the action
that's going to be taken by the judicial systems to
throw you in jail for non compliance with a restraining order.
You're going to be viewed as somebody that's trying to
hurt other people.
Speaker 11 (31:29):
Prominent local business owner in Amsterdam is causing quite a
stir with a massive political sign, the CEO of Sticker
Mule making headlines with a vote for Trump display, even
though it is raising some red flags with Code enflicement.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
So Anthony got his team together and they figured out
a way to cover it up. But he wasn't going
to let the mayor get away with this.
Speaker 9 (31:51):
I said, look, you know, I'm not going to be intimidated.
I'm gonna throw a massive party. So I threw this
massive party answered this thing called the Sign Lighting Party.
Five or six thousand people showed up. People flew in
from all over the country. That they flew in from
as far as California. And as the event was going on,
I had no idea what was going to happen.
Speaker 1 (32:07):
As the event kicked off, Anthony's lawyers were at the courthouse.
Speaker 9 (32:11):
I went in to judge and they said, listen, this
guy's never done anything wrong in his life. He's a
great member of the community. Can you please give us
an emergency session to review the case. We don't want
him to go to jail, and judge says, okay, I'll
give you an emergency session. And my lawyer spent all
day arguing and negotiating with the judge to say, look,
this is straining order, makes no sense. This guy's not
threatening anybody. This sign is going to threat the public safety.
(32:31):
It's an expression of free speech. They'd spent all day negotiating,
and I kept saying, what's going on. They said, we
haven't made it. We haven't, we haven't reached any agreement yet.
You got up to calm yourself down. You can't go
forward with this. You're going to end up in jail
if there was a number of police who were on
standby to arrest me.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Anthony Constantino went all in on the cause, a cause
that happened to align with his company. Stickers are essentially
a platform for personal expression. What he was doing with
the sign complimented the mission of Sticker Mule, and it
also happened to be what he believed in.
Speaker 9 (33:03):
So we pressed on and about five o'clock my events started.
At five thirty or six at the judge finally side
of my legal team, and they counted. They threw the
restraining order out and they said I was right along
that the mayor put in place of phony restraining order
and said, look, you're free to light to sign, no issues.
You're all clear that police got the order to stand down.
Speaker 1 (33:23):
So Anthony pulled the trigger.
Speaker 16 (33:25):
We've begain tonight over in Amsterdam, that is where that
Vote for Trumps sign was just revealed on the Sticker
Mule building.
Speaker 15 (33:31):
Tonight, the CEO of Sticker Mule, Anthony Constantino, hosted a
rally garnering massive support to light it up. A Vote
for Trump's sign now sits lit up atop the former
Founs building in Amsterdam.
Speaker 14 (33:45):
This is all following a court order telling Sticker Mule
that they couldn't have the sign up.
Speaker 15 (33:50):
Sticker Mule CEO Anthony Constantino defended the sign, claiming it
was within his rights to express political views and that
the sign complies with free speech protections.
Speaker 9 (34:01):
Yeah. I believe in free speech, and I believe in
calming the tangos in the country, and I think this
sign is going to be a landmark. It's going to
be an exciting sign for everyone. It's gonna be one
of those signs like the Las Vegas sign or like
the Hollywood sign of people are going to want to
come the see forever. So I think it's great for
the community.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
It was a smashing success. Anthony Constantino's company won the day.
So why did Sticker Meals succeed while bud Light failed
in an epic fashion ants and freericks may have the answer.
Speaker 10 (34:32):
There's a lot of business they give back to certain
charities or they get involved with, you know, certain organizations.
This has been something that you like, going back to
biblical times. So the Bible has a has a verse.
It's Proverbs sixteen to eight, which says better is a
little with righteousness than great revenues with injustice. And so
there's something to be speaking about of when should businesses,
you know, get involved in certain issues or certain political issues.
(34:55):
And I think like, really the right balance is that
there's something that's related to a company's mission. That's when
they should really think about.
Speaker 4 (35:02):
Maybe leaning Today Anthony Constantino is leaning into politics. President
Trump appointed US Congresswoman Elise Stefanick to be US Ambassador
to the United Nations. Anthony is running for the New
York twenty first congressional district seat she vacated as Franz
and Frearicks. After leaving bud Light in twenty twenty two,
(35:23):
he co founded a wealth management company called Strive and
his co founder is an old high school buddy by
the name of Vivek Ramaswami, which.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Leads us back to the question when should companies get political.
The answer is clear, companies should get political when the
cause aligns with the company's mission.
Speaker 10 (35:51):
I mean, it took a look over the forty year history,
but Light it became the biggest beer brand United States
because it was all about things that brought people over.
The sports, it was music, it was backyard barbecause like
never touched any political and then all of a sudden
when they did this partnership with Dylan Molvany, who has
become one of the most controversial figures of the whole
transgender movement. Dylan was at the White House with Biden
(36:13):
advocating for gender affirmation care for people under the age
of eighteen, which was one of the most divisive and
contentious issues over the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (36:22):
None of that was related to bud Light's mission. Bud
Light was a guys beer that brought guys together in celebration.
Speaker 10 (36:29):
I mean this was the brand that drank at football
games and at tailgates and concerts, and.
Speaker 9 (36:34):
It was a manly type of brand.
Speaker 10 (36:36):
So when this company all of a sudden was like
doing this partnership with like Dylan Molvani, that's when regular
Americans really woke up and said.
Speaker 9 (36:42):
Just enough's enough.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
In the case of Anthony Constantino, his Trumps sign was
about free expression that perfectly aligned with the mission of
his company, and the result was a whopping success. Well,
bud Light lost billions in value, and it appears that
many companies are now learning from their mistake.
Speaker 17 (37:00):
Target announcing it is rolling back diversity and inclusion programs
at the company. In a mellow to employees, the Minneapolis
based company says it will end it's three year DEI goals,
stop reports to external diversity focused groups, and end a
program focused on carrying more products from black or minority
owned businesses.
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