January 4, 2024 • 34 mins
Are you able to identify exactly how you are feeling? Having awareness of your feelings is a very important part of managing and/or healing from something going on in your life. Amy’s cousin Amanda Rieger Green (@SoulPathology) is on to talk about feelings, emotions, & more!!
“The Triple A” (as Amy & Amanda decided to call the process last minute during this chat) is a way to understand and process what you’re feeling:
- AWARENESS
- ARTICULATION
- ACTION
Listen to hear how Amanda recently went through being AWARE that she was feeling sad, how she was able to ARTICULATE that to herself + others, and then how she took ACTION.
Feelings are hard, so here is a link to the ‘Feelings Wheel’ that Amanda uses to help identify emotions.
Check out Amanda’s podcast, Soul Sessions with Amanda Rieger Green or book a session with her to get in touch with your higher self at SoulPathology.com!
Use Amanda’s 18-Day Meditation Dedication to support you in meditatively dedicating your energy to strengthen and harness your point of attraction.
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Amanda is a passionate advocate, teacher and thought leader on the crucial intersections of spirituality, human potential, public health and inspiring personal and collective evolution.
She is a world-renowned teacher and consultant to organizations, leaders, officials, communities, institutions, and seekers looking to practice a more conscious way of leading and creating results.
Amanda empowers clients, reflecting their innate abilities to and through them at these intersections to create tangible, meaningful results on micro and macro scales. She uses her profound abilities as a precognitive combined with strategic, practical business acumen and academic expertise to understand the needs of individuals and varying populations to provide groundbreaking Soul-utions for their unique practical objectives and visionary aims.
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Amy Brown // RadioAmy.com // @RadioAmy
Guest:
Amanda Rieger Green // SoulPathology.com // @SoulPathology
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
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but hey, it's pretty beautiful than beautiful. That's a little
more fas exciting, because said he your kick in with
four with Amy.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Brown, Happy Thursday, four Things, vam Amy here right now.
I'm sitting here with my cousin Amanda, and she came
in town this weekend. It's the weekend before you're hearing this,
and she's here for a little respite or some R
and R. It got us into a conversation this morning.
We were having coffee and I thought, oh, you know,
(00:53):
this could be helpful. We knew we wanted to record
something while she was here, not that we have to
write Amanda, No high everyone, Amanda riger Green, Welcome, Welcome,
Thank you. I want to always leave space for a
recording with you if we've got it, because people like
having you on the podcast. But if we didn't get
(01:14):
to this, it wouldn't have mattered because then that wasn't
in store for us because we had a lot of
other things we needed to concentrate on, which is really
you just getting down time and yeah some R and R.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well and the last time we well not the last
time we were together, but another time, we really talked
about how so much of what we love to do
is be intentional with our time, but we also are
good at being flexible together with our time and spontaneous.
So we've done a lot of things and if things
come together and work out, they do and they're supposed to.
(01:45):
So I love the ability just to go with the flow,
and especially during the holidays.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's hard sometimes to go with the flow during.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
The holidays with everything we have on our plates, So
having this respite has been genius.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, I'm glad you're able to make it because
what you'll hear in this episode depending on you know,
I'm going to let Amanda take it where she wants
to go. But you know, when it comes to feeling things,
we both realize that we, well and probably a lot
of you listening, have the ability to completely numb out,
especially when things.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Get particularly difficult.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But if we're in the process of a hard season,
whether it's grieving a loss of a relationship, of something
else in life has fallen apart and broken, you know,
there's a multitude of things different family dynamics, divorce, death
like things that cause.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Us immense pain.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But if we can't really identify what we're feeling and
really take action, which is what we're going to talk
through is kind of identifying it, being aware of it
and the things we're feeling, and then articulating it, which
is something Aman and I we were on our couch,
my couch, our couch because that's where we've been hanging
all weekends.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Our couch for the weekend, and your dog Kara and
my dog Kara and my cat Maggie.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And on our trip to see Carrie the Nashville Beauty
girl on Instagram, that was like our outing. And we've
gone on hikes, we've been very intentional about Okay, what's
going to make you feel good?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And those are things you wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
But anyway, we were talking about articulating and being able
to share it with people that you feel safe, and
then it went on this whole thing of like, gosh,
some people don't even have safe people to talk to,
or they may not even have a therapist, and so
this conversation is just for if you're having trouble identifying
your feelings or acknowledging them, and then you know where
(03:39):
to go from there once you have the awareness that
maybe you're sad, like Amanda, you had this light bulb
Goloth like, oh I'm sad, and we'll let you take
it from there.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
But before we get into that, I do want to
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I literally saw peppermint bark make you happy. Yesterday we
went to do cryotherapy at restore where I go, and
they had out a bunch of cookies and peppermint bark,
and Amanda how to nowhere, busts out a ziplock bag
from her purse and starts putting peppermint bark because she
didn't want to eat it there in the moment, but
(04:12):
she's like, I think I'm gonna want some of this later. Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
She full disclosure.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
The manager was standing right there that she was adorable,
and I said to her, I said, this makes me
so happy. I happened to have a ziplock. It had
some of my vitamins in it, so I have vitamins,
and I said, may I'm gonna put I didn't even
say may I put this in here, but it was
like I was the person taking the treats and putting them.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
In my bag for later.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It was just two pieces, but like she's laughing, so
you know it's like, but I'm just doing it. And
that's that's how I've been these days. It's it's like
this season of my life sometimes my filter and my manners.
It's like I just grabbed the peppermint bark like I
was Stevenson. You know, I am like, Amy's eight year old,
and I'm like, I should have peppermint bark, except so twelve.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Twe I'm like, why is did I say he's eight?
But he's twelve and he looks safe. He looks safe. Yeah,
he act saint.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
All the things, but no, that the little things that
bring me joy. And I've shared this with people, and
I don't know if Amy and I have talked about this,
but since we move back from Belize, I love to
go to the grocery store by myself. It gives me
my time and I can spend the time I need
wandering around or being as you know, fast and productive
(05:28):
as I need to be. But I get flowers. I
get fresh flowers at the grocery store and it makes
me feel beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I'm a libra.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I love beauty, but looking at beauty, simple beauty in life,
and to me, that peppermint bark, it brought me happiness
and joy. But it also made me feel human, It
made me feel childlike, it made me feel playful, and
it put you know, a hitch in mynth gideo like.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
This is the most beautiful bark I've ever seen. So
I try to bite, just because I was like, well,
if Amanda is doing and all this, I better try some.
And I took a bite and it was not for me.
I was like, okay, well, well but anyway, finding things
like that that bring you little joy, and I love
like you talked about, you know, buying yourself flowers and
how we can do that sort of thing for ourselves.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Or I was telling you about how I bought.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I was in the checkout line and something that stood
out to me that made me happy that I thought
it was going to bring me joy was this gourmet popcorn.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I don't even want to know how.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Much I paid for it, because I probably want to
block that out because I mean, it's just popcorn. But
it was jalapino and pimento cheese, gourmet popcorn. And I
don't know why that just stood out to me as
being this amazing thing. And of course, oh you know what,
I forgot an ingredient honey.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Wait, hold on.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
The question everybody wants to know was how did it taste?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Well? Yes, so I'm on the edge of my seat.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Jalapino and pimento cheese and honey popcorn, I know, but
you know I'm Cliff's daughter. Yeah, like this pamena cheese
with something sweet are salty sweet, kind of like the
peppermint with the mark with the pretzel. I love a
salty sweet situation. So this honey mixed in with this
pamena cheese and jalapeno. It was pretty delightful, but probably
(07:13):
not worth whatever I paid well.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And as a side note, our fathers were also really
good friends and one of the things that they loved
is cooking together. They were both incredible cooks and your dad,
of course, was a chef, but my dad was great
at concocting mixtures and throwing things in and they love
to do that together. So okay, yeah, you are Cliff
Moffits Rader, so.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I'm gonna try weird concoctions. But it did bring me
joy and it was worth it. Again, Please, I hope
I didn't spend like eight dollars on this tiny bag
of popcorn, but it probably did.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
But it brought me joy in that moment.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So what are those little things you can, you know,
bring into your life that will give you a little spark,
give you happiness, things that maybe you get childlike about
or get curious about. Like I was very curious. I
have to know what that tastes, like, I need to
try that. And then I took it over to a
friend's house and I was able to share it with
others and they were like, oh, that looks disgusting, and
(08:10):
I said, no, no, please try it. So it was
to me sort of, you know, a gift that kept
on giving. But joy is something we are able to
feel if we allow ourselves to go there. But sometimes
we're so numb to everything that's going on. I'm like,
I don't even know how to feel happiness right now,
or I don't even know how to know if I'm happy,
or I don't know if I'm sad right now.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I don't really know what I'm feeling.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And this time of year, I think there can be
a lot of feelings, and we talk about how two
feelings that are very very opposite, or two emotions that
seem like they can't go together at the same time,
kind of like pamina, cheese and honey. They can go
together at the same time. You can feel joy during
the holiday season and you can feel immense sadness, So
(08:55):
those two things can be true at the same time.
But what Amanda realized the other day is that you
were feeling sad and you were had to sit with
that for a minute.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yes, and it was it was simple, yet it was profound.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And then you were telling me about the feelings wheel
and how it breaks down things underneath each thing.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
And so what is the what's the website? It's feelings Wheel.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yes, it's the feeling It's the it's the I feel
from Iminger. That's the It's Iminger dot io. And that's
where I found the one that I resonate with. There's
a ton of them. If you google feelings wheel, you'll
find one that resonates with you. But I found this
really complex feelings wheel that's also very straightforward and simple,
and it's color coded and there's concentric circles. But with sadness.
(09:55):
This has helped me tremendously and I recommend this to
clients when we're talking about emotional intelligence, and this is
something I talk about everyone all the time. I talk
about feelings and emotional intelligence because feelings and my emotional
intelligence has been this massive healing journey for me. But
I can also recognize that I just detach, disassociate, and
(10:18):
absolutely shove down, numb out, put aside my feelings to
suit up, show up, and take care of whatever needs
to be done on my plate in the best way
I can. And that's not always healthy, but that's when
I know I'm in a mode where I'm needing to
slow down and really figure out what's going on so
I can be more true to myself. But this feelings
(10:39):
will is great because it's helped me put names to
emotions that I can't figure out. And as Amy mentioned,
we can feel things simultaneously that might be fear alongside
of hope. We can feel things that are illogical at
the same time. So that's what to me. Sometimes emotions.
I can feel sadness, but then at that same moment
(11:01):
that I was aware that I am sad, I also
felt transcendent. I felt excited, I said excited, So I'm
sad and excited. How illogical is that it is? But
guess what emotions aren't logical. They don't fit into a spreadsheet.
You know, they're not in a spreadsheet. Emotions aren't logical,
(11:22):
and we're human, we're messy.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It makes me just I don't know, somehow tie in
the salty sweet pretzels. It's like, you know, salt, it's
the salty and the sweet. Yeah, can happen at the
same time. But I like the idea of googling a
feeling's wheel or a feelings chart or something like that, which, again,
some are more complex than others. They're very basic ones.
(11:48):
And you use the word elementary. It might seem that
way for some people because that's honestly something I do
with my kids, and I hold up, you know, maybe
ten emotions point to which one or which ones you
think you're varencing right now, and that so you may
need to take yourself back to something that is like
a little homework assignment for yourself and bust out a
(12:09):
chart and say, okay, okay, self, point to whatever I
think I'm feeling right now, and then maybe there's a
few and then you sit with each thing, maybe journal
about each thing, or just go on a walk and
you know, think about each thing, meditate on it, pray
on it, and then that way you can start to
(12:31):
have awareness around what you're feeling.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Absolutely and the feelings will this one the one I have.
It's so cool because sadness happens to be sad happens
to be at the center of the wheel, and then
it fans out from there with things like lonely, guilt, depression, despair,
and then it fans out further.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
There's more but victimize.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Fragile, grief, powerlessness, empty, all of those things, not all
of those, but I just was naming a few empty,
you know, grief. Obviously grief, we all, you know, on
a logical level, we know that I'm experiencing grief. I've
shared that it's normal. But it all relates back to sadness.
And it's funny that sadness is at the center. So
(13:14):
I identified what in this chart looks like a core emotion.
But that's a really helpful tool in the awareness process.
And it's the becoming aware where the light bulb goes off.
And I think sometimes the awareness is coupled with a
sense of excitement or to me, sometimes that's how I
experience my faith God, my higher power that comes through
(13:36):
and I'm like, oh, oh, I'm connected to my.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Soul, my higher self, my higher self.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Just communicated and it's my wisdom, it's my truth, it's
my human self and my higher self, that part of
me that is connected to something larger. And from that awareness,
then I can start to take some action and the articulation,
so articulating it to myself. The other piece to the
communication of when you have that light bulb moment or
(14:03):
you are able to point to the feelings on the
wheel and sit with them for a few minutes with
yourself to see maybe where they're showing up in your
body or how it really feels to feel sad or
angry or afraid or disgusted or joyful and exuberant. Once
you are able to sit with yourself and you're comfortable
(14:25):
and maybe not comfortable, but well versed better verse in
your own self awareness of your emotions, it's then being
able to share with other people other people in a
safe way. And I don't mean everyone and going into
the details, but for me, one of the biggest parts
of my spiritual, personal and healing journey is having people
(14:47):
in my life, whether it's a therapist, a spiritual guide
or advisor, someone at church, a dear friend, a family
member who in my life feels safe for me to
share what's go going on where they can hold space
for me in a way that I can begin to
process and heal, start healing, start feeling.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Does that resonate? Yes?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I like too that you say it doesn't mean finding
a way to communicate it or articulate it. It doesn't
mean everywhere with every person, or maybe you feel led
to share it more publicly one day or whatever that
looks like. And Amanda and I are talking through this
right now because this is you know, sort of in
(15:33):
alignment with what we do and trying to share certain
things that are going on now. You don't get every
single detail of every single thing, but it's coming alongside others.
And you know, I feel like I'm sharing that right
now because I'm like, okay, you've got listeners right now
that we're sharing this with. And this is more we
don't necessarily mean on a public platform, but like who
(15:56):
are you your safe people where you can really get
real with them, or your safe person or you're like
you said, you're a guide of someone that you feel
close to, like a therapist or someone that you trust
in that way.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
But it doesn't mean just putting it on.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Blasts for the whole world to know, to hear about,
or to digest. That's not the communication part. And it
may just even be yourself. Yes you said you were,
You articulate it to yourself and that can be pretty
powerful to do that well.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And also in prayer and to God.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
If you there are people you know, I will talk
to clients and I'll say things like, Okay, who is
your person that you're going to be able to share
this with or help you hold space, or if it
has to do with some accountability on something, who can
who can you trust to hold you accountable? Who feels
okay for that healthy for that? Sometimes people will say
(16:53):
I don't know, and guess what. That's a totally okay
answer too. Sometimes when I have something going on, I
may not know who the person to turn to is.
So for me, it's I'll turn to God, you know,
I'll say, I'll start praying. I'll say, Okay, hey God,
I can't you can you know? Or Hey, I'm feeling
this and I don't know how to feel or I'm
(17:13):
experiencing this, can you help me process this? And another
thing with setting intentions. I'm big on intentions and prayer
and manifestation with your soul, your higher self, and God,
your higher power, whatever that looks like for you, but
also setting the intention, Hey Soul, hey God, hey higher self.
(17:34):
I'm not sure who or how to share this with
or what the healing journey looks like. Help me show
me thank you, Help me show me thank you, and
then and like and then breathe, just take a few
cleansing breaths. The breath is one of the most powerful
tools we have, and it's ours. It's ours, It's the
first thing we came in with. So the breath is
(17:57):
something that we forget, we can go back to and
we're shallow, you know. We breathe from the upper respiratory system,
the clavical area up. But taking a breath from you know,
the base of your belly, your diaphragm, two or three
rounds of breath. I mean, it really only takes twelve
(18:19):
to sixteen seconds to process an emotion. Doesn't mean you're
not going to feel it again and it's not going
to continue happening and it's not still there. But to
become aware of it in the present moment, to inhale
and exhale it, and.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Then for me and those breaths too.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It's because I do some breath work with my therapist
at the beginning, especially if I'm starting a session and
she can tell that I'm frazzled, I'll do some of
the breathing, and then for me, it shows up in
my throat.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
And I've talked about that before.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
It may show up somewhere else in your body, but
then my therapist will immediately have me put my hand
on my throat and then start breathing through that, and
then I.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I feel it start to sort of go away.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
But when I'm feeling something, I am so aware now
of what my throat is doing. Yeah, and I don't
know that I always noticed that this can't be something new.
It was probably happening to me all along, but I
never was in touch with it. And now I know,
and I feel it, and I'm aware of it, and
I put my hand on it and I breathe with it,
(19:23):
and I sit with it, and then I feel it
sort of calmed down a little bit, or sometimes that
might mean I need to really amp it up and
get something out.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So for you, it may show up somewhere.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I know you have some throat things too, but it
is cool to get to a place where you can
be aware of that and identify that.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And I love breath work being a tool for that.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
In what we're talking about right now of the awareness
of the emotion, the articulation, and then where do you
go from there?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
The action the action and that has work.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Possibly that's a huge action And one of the things
that I love the way you just shared that and
reminding everyone healing is a journey, but healing happens in
really small moments oftentimes, just like the awareness of oh
I'm sad to me, the awareness was just a healing moment.
That's a turning point for me. But the breath work
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that you do this isn't You don't have to go
meditate for twenty minutes, or you don't necessarily have to
go on a fifteen minute walk. All those things are
wonderful tools and certainly can be incorporated, but you don't
have to feel overwhelmed in the tools and techniques breath
work or a little bit of meditation, just thirty minutes
(20:36):
of silence, feeling your feelings, identifying a feeling on a chart.
That stuff doesn't have to take hours or hours of therapy.
It's you creating your own self therapy that really begins
to work for you, and it's the awareness of it,
and it can be so profound. And I also love
that you said sometimes when you hold your throat and
(20:57):
you do the breath work with your therapist, it's not
always calming. Something comes up that you have a revelation about.
So sometimes it grounds you and calms you. Other times
it offers more wisdom and insight and guidance into your
energy field because it oxygenates, you know, the neurotransmitters in
your brain. And I go to all of those places
because our body, you know, like we've talked about, the
(21:19):
body keeps score.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
The body is intelligent.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So paying attention, just being present for a few moments.
You know, it's been said and it's been taught to me.
Is the only thing I have control over is my attitude,
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my actions, and you know what I do myself.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I just have control over myself.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So if I can learn to get curious around a circumstance,
a situation, or experience, then I can more easily shift
my perspective and attitude around things. So curiosity is also
it's playful and it's using, it's harmonizing both sides of
the brain, the right and the left hemispheres of the brain.
Curiosity working with the left and right hemispheres of the brain,
(22:11):
and that helps with clarity and cognition and also the
emotional intelligence. But I do love all the action pieces
we're talking about here, because we've talked about awareness and articulation,
but all of the actions to begin to take healthy
action around who we are and what we're experiencing so
(22:34):
we continue to grow. Because to me, healing is synonymous
with growth or expansion. Healing is a process or a journey,
but it's synonymous with this element of I'm growing, I'm evolving,
I'm maturing, I'm expanding, I'm learning. I'm not reverting. And
even though to me this last handful of months, I
feel like I've just fallen back into a little bit
(22:55):
of survival mode because what's been on my plate has
been pretty immense, and it's been day to day and
you know, a day to day caregiver and working full time,
all the lifing, lifing, all the things that you all
know about. I have put certain pieces of myself and
my own self care on the back burner, and am
now now that I'm aware, really aware, and recognizing that
(23:19):
I've done that, I get to do something about it.
And I have so many tools, but I also have
people in my life that I'm comfortable with and you're
one of those people. That's been a huge part of
this journey of learning to just articulate this sensitive time
we share, you know, lots of experiences, but having the
relationships and that really support me, you know, can support
(23:43):
you all in your journey.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Figuring those things out, I think is very important whatever
you're walking through, whatever any of you are walking through,
finding the things that you can do with the people
in your life that you love, whether it's actual blood, family, friends, coworkers,
what whoever it may be that really creates healthy, bright
(24:06):
moments in even really tough and challenging times.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well, and you mentioned being thankful for you know, the
baking show, so.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
You don't even know.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, great British baking show, Great British holiday baking show.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Shout out love you all. True. No, Okay, see, I
have zero desire to.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Watch that, Paul Hollywood, but all the things, Hey, if
you know out there, you know, if you know, you know, okay,
we're in the club.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well I can vouch to the fact that I think
a few different times I have called y'all and that
is literally what you were watching, and I still haven't
checked it out, but you know you have gratitude for that,
which I think is another tool is sitting down and
practicing gratitude. So I think you know you mentioned the
baking show. So we'll do a little four things gratitude
here right now. That can be one thing. What are
(24:54):
three other things that you're currently thankful for?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well, I mean, since we're on the topic of attitude
and food, I'm really thankful for free toes. So speaking
of the salty, I have been on a free toe kick.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And so you say free to I see I say freetos.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Say free toes, free toes, free toes.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I've been on a free toe kick.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I live in Texas, so we have AGB as our
grocery store. So I have been on the h GB
lightly salted version of free toes, those smaller strip ones,
because I have needed I've needed something salty. I think
some of it matches my attitude because I've been a
little salty, but I've been so grateful for that as
as just a little pleasure or a treat that that
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just almost makes me feel kind of childlike.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I'm not really a big chip eater, so I'm totally
grateful for free too's. I mean, I am grateful for
fresh cut flowers sitting next to my sink in the
kitchen or in the bathroom, or in my office or
you know, next to my bed. I like I mentioned,
that has been one of the biggest pleasures, but most
beautiful aspects of my life is going downstairs washing dishes,
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grabbing some tea or coffee, and fresh flowers are sitting there,
and arranging those flowers, cutting the flowers, putting fresh water
in them, keeping them alive. That has been something that
has been so cathartic for me. And I normally I
cook quite a bit, but fresh flowers have been cathartic.
So massively grateful for fresh cut flowers.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
And the arrangement of those.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And then I'm grateful for friendship and the people in
my life who have really shown up to hold space
for me in the way that I haven't been able
to hold space for myself. And you being one of those,
my siblings, my husband, you know, some dear friends and
spiritual advisors, but I have and clients let me say
that I have lots of clients and people that I
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work with, and I get a little emotional saying it
because they're just people that say how are you, or
they'll send me an email and say you cross my
mind today. And this is somebody maybe I've talked to
twice in the last four years, and those always come
through at the moment I need them to come through.
So friendship, connection, people being supportive. Well, that's a lot
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more than four things. But yeah, I know me, you
know me.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
No, but that's four things. There are no rules. Four
things just help you. It's a starting point because sometimes
sitting down to journal gratitude can be seem overwhelming or intimidating,
like I don't really know how to journal this out.
But it can be four things as a starting point. Okay,
four just could be four words some days. But it
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also may mean that each thing that you think of
has a rabbit trill of things or there's a domino effect.
And that's what I found too with practicing gratitude, especially
the last couple of years, is there's a domino effect
and it just starts. So once you start flowing, it
does get easier. But there are days where you know
it might be a little more difficult and you feel stuck,
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but okay, fine do one thing and I'll say too.
Maybe you have last minute gifts that you need to
shop for after the holidays, or you are interested in
gratitude and you're you want something like a tool to
help you along with it. And that's what our Four
Things Gratitude Journal is. It's a tool and Mary and
I created it as something to not be intimidating, to
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be something easy that you can bust out. And you
can do four Things gratitude in any old journal, but
this is you know. We put quotes on each page,
we put prompts in the back their stickers, and a
couple of weeks ago we released two cover options. And
the colors are so so cute. I said, I wanted
to report back what people's favorite has been. And I
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am a little surprised. I thought the favorite was going
to be the red and the coral colors, but the
blue and the teal color seems to be more of
a favorite, or that's what people are buying more of,
so that sort of surprised me.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
But they're both cute, so.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Not in a bad way, but anyway, four things dot
com if you want to enter the new year and
with the Four Things gratitud journ and one hundred percent
of the proceeds go to education in Haiti through Project
Meta Share. I love gratitude as a tool, and I
love breathing as a tool. And if you're someone right
now that is processing a lot. You feel the salty
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and you feel the sweet, or you don't really even
know what you're feeling, then the point of this conversation
was to hopefully help you become aware of what it
is and then to be able to articulate it to
yourself and possibly others, and then to be able to
take some action.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
So the three a's call the Triple A and amana,
thank you for sharing.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Even you who someone as I see that's very emotionally
intelligent and is able to tap into so many different things.
And that's what you do. You encourage people all day long.
You help people get to their highest potential, and so too,
it just shows like, Okay, not everybody has it all
together at all times, and it's okay to not. And
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you even getting excited about an aha moment that is
so simple, Like you said, it's so simple but profound
that you had the revelation that you're sad, and then
now you're leaning into that and you're like, Okay, I'm
going to be sad, so that I no longer numb
it out or push it down, because that doesn't go
anywhere good. I tell you from experience, that goes no,
we're good real fast. And then you're in this hole
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and you're trying to dig your way out and it
may take years to do that. So just being proactive
in that, and that's part of this conversation too, is
maybe that's where you get out the wheel.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Spin that wheel, spin the wheel wheels the wheel of
emotional fortune, right, and so what you know, but by
the way, the wheel that that I was looking at,
the circle wheel, it kind of looks like the wheel
of fortune wheel you know that they spin.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
It has all those colors on it.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I mean. And maybe if you're doing some I don't know,
maybe this could be an activity if you're having trouble
identifying your emotion, is spin the wheel each day or
any you know, you can't really spin the wheel online,
but maybe you take your finger and you close your
eyes and you land on an emotion and then sit
with that emotion for the day and you may process
that like, oh, okay, that does not relate to me
(31:08):
at all. Okay, next emotion the next day, you put
your finger on something else, and then maybe that's how
you're able to exercise that muscle and get there.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Is you know, a little emotional wheel fortune like you
emotional wheel of fortune.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
But you know that's so great because that also helps
you with developing intuition and connecting with your soul and
spirit because whatever you put your finger on, maybe you
can't identify with that emotion today, but maybe you have
a memory where oh that's what I was feeling. Oh
my gosh, that's what it was, and it may help
you process or become aware of something in the past
(31:44):
that was going on that you might not have actually
processed or been able to articulate. And it creates awareness
from something in the past. That So healing isn't always linear. Yes,
it's a journey, but healing is non linear as well,
meaning you go back, you know, process trauma and therapy
and with people it's it's not linear.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So yeah, be playful with it because this is this
is big stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, And Amanda tell people where they can find you
and all the things.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yes, if you are wanting to connect with me.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
My name is Amanda Rieger Green on Instagram, It's at
soul Pathology. My website is soulpathology dot com. I am
an intuitive, a psychic medium, but most of all, I
work to, like Amy said, connect people with their highest self,
their highest potential, and connect the human consciousness with the soul,
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essentially astounding you with your own abilities. And you know
if if you know me or you've worked with me,
I work with everything from neural feedback and cognition and
all of the neural sciences to astrology and numerology and
then connecting with loved ones on the other side.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
So it's just a.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Big gumbo of tools and you just take what you
want and leave the rest. And hopefully you just leave
or walk out, you know, in working with me on
a session, feeling better, more alive, more awake and in
tune than when you came in and again soul pathology.
(33:20):
But I have all sorts of tools and resources. I
have free tools how to set intentions on my website.
I've got a great eighteen day meditation that is wonderful
for morning and evening and it really helps to get
in a flow and get in a space of peace.
So there are all sorts of tools on my website
that are good if you're just dipping the toe, your
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toe into the water of whatever your self help, self
care and spiritual and personal journey is.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Love it, Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Hope y'all are having the day that you need to
have and that you take some time for yourself, whatever
that may look like.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
O
Cats up thing, little food for yourself life. Oh it's pretty,
but hey, it's pretty beautiful than beautiful. That's a little
more fas exciting, because said he your kick in with
four with Amy.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Brown, Happy Thursday, four Things, vam Amy here right now.
I'm sitting here with my cousin Amanda, and she came
in town this weekend. It's the weekend before you're hearing this,
and she's here for a little respite or some R
and R. It got us into a conversation this morning.
We were having coffee and I thought, oh, you know,
(00:53):
this could be helpful. We knew we wanted to record
something while she was here, not that we have to
write Amanda, No high everyone, Amanda riger Green, Welcome, Welcome,
Thank you. I want to always leave space for a
recording with you if we've got it, because people like
having you on the podcast. But if we didn't get
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to this, it wouldn't have mattered because then that wasn't
in store for us because we had a lot of
other things we needed to concentrate on, which is really
you just getting down time and yeah some R and R.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Well and the last time we well not the last
time we were together, but another time, we really talked
about how so much of what we love to do
is be intentional with our time, but we also are
good at being flexible together with our time and spontaneous.
So we've done a lot of things and if things
come together and work out, they do and they're supposed to.
(01:45):
So I love the ability just to go with the flow,
and especially during the holidays.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's hard sometimes to go with the flow during.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
The holidays with everything we have on our plates, So
having this respite has been genius.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I mean, I'm glad you're able to make it because
what you'll hear in this episode depending on you know,
I'm going to let Amanda take it where she wants
to go. But you know, when it comes to feeling things,
we both realize that we, well and probably a lot
of you listening, have the ability to completely numb out,
especially when things.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Get particularly difficult.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
But if we're in the process of a hard season,
whether it's grieving a loss of a relationship, of something
else in life has fallen apart and broken, you know,
there's a multitude of things different family dynamics, divorce, death
like things that cause.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
Us immense pain.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
But if we can't really identify what we're feeling and
really take action, which is what we're going to talk
through is kind of identifying it, being aware of it
and the things we're feeling, and then articulating it, which
is something Aman and I we were on our couch,
my couch, our couch because that's where we've been hanging
all weekends.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
Our couch for the weekend, and your dog Kara and
my dog Kara and my cat Maggie.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
And on our trip to see Carrie the Nashville Beauty
girl on Instagram, that was like our outing. And we've
gone on hikes, we've been very intentional about Okay, what's
going to make you feel good?
Speaker 3 (03:15):
And those are things you wanted to do.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
But anyway, we were talking about articulating and being able
to share it with people that you feel safe, and
then it went on this whole thing of like, gosh,
some people don't even have safe people to talk to,
or they may not even have a therapist, and so
this conversation is just for if you're having trouble identifying
your feelings or acknowledging them, and then you know where
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to go from there once you have the awareness that
maybe you're sad, like Amanda, you had this light bulb
Goloth like, oh I'm sad, and we'll let you take
it from there.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
But before we get into that, I do want to
talk about that.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
I literally saw peppermint bark make you happy. Yesterday we
went to do cryotherapy at restore where I go, and
they had out a bunch of cookies and peppermint bark,
and Amanda how to nowhere, busts out a ziplock bag
from her purse and starts putting peppermint bark because she
didn't want to eat it there in the moment, but
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she's like, I think I'm gonna want some of this later. Listen.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
She full disclosure.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
The manager was standing right there that she was adorable,
and I said to her, I said, this makes me
so happy. I happened to have a ziplock. It had
some of my vitamins in it, so I have vitamins,
and I said, may I'm gonna put I didn't even
say may I put this in here, but it was
like I was the person taking the treats and putting them.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
In my bag for later.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
It was just two pieces, but like she's laughing, so
you know it's like, but I'm just doing it. And
that's that's how I've been these days. It's it's like
this season of my life sometimes my filter and my manners.
It's like I just grabbed the peppermint bark like I
was Stevenson. You know, I am like, Amy's eight year old,
and I'm like, I should have peppermint bark, except so twelve.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Twe I'm like, why is did I say he's eight?
But he's twelve and he looks safe. He looks safe. Yeah,
he act saint.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
All the things, but no, that the little things that
bring me joy. And I've shared this with people, and
I don't know if Amy and I have talked about this,
but since we move back from Belize, I love to
go to the grocery store by myself. It gives me
my time and I can spend the time I need
wandering around or being as you know, fast and productive
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as I need to be. But I get flowers. I
get fresh flowers at the grocery store and it makes
me feel beautiful.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
I'm a libra.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I love beauty, but looking at beauty, simple beauty in life,
and to me, that peppermint bark, it brought me happiness
and joy. But it also made me feel human, It
made me feel childlike, it made me feel playful, and
it put you know, a hitch in mynth gideo like.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
This is the most beautiful bark I've ever seen. So
I try to bite, just because I was like, well,
if Amanda is doing and all this, I better try some.
And I took a bite and it was not for me.
I was like, okay, well, well but anyway, finding things
like that that bring you little joy, and I love
like you talked about, you know, buying yourself flowers and
how we can do that sort of thing for ourselves.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Or I was telling you about how I bought.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
I was in the checkout line and something that stood
out to me that made me happy that I thought
it was going to bring me joy was this gourmet popcorn.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I don't even want to know how.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Much I paid for it, because I probably want to
block that out because I mean, it's just popcorn. But
it was jalapino and pimento cheese, gourmet popcorn. And I
don't know why that just stood out to me as
being this amazing thing. And of course, oh you know what,
I forgot an ingredient honey.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Wait, hold on.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
The question everybody wants to know was how did it taste?
Speaker 3 (06:48):
Well? Yes, so I'm on the edge of my seat.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Jalapino and pimento cheese and honey popcorn, I know, but
you know I'm Cliff's daughter. Yeah, like this pamena cheese
with something sweet are salty sweet, kind of like the
peppermint with the mark with the pretzel. I love a
salty sweet situation. So this honey mixed in with this
pamena cheese and jalapeno. It was pretty delightful, but probably
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not worth whatever I paid well.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
And as a side note, our fathers were also really
good friends and one of the things that they loved
is cooking together. They were both incredible cooks and your dad,
of course, was a chef, but my dad was great
at concocting mixtures and throwing things in and they love
to do that together. So okay, yeah, you are Cliff
Moffits Rader, so.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I'm gonna try weird concoctions. But it did bring me
joy and it was worth it. Again, Please, I hope
I didn't spend like eight dollars on this tiny bag
of popcorn, but it probably did.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
But it brought me joy in that moment.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
So what are those little things you can, you know,
bring into your life that will give you a little spark,
give you happiness, things that maybe you get childlike about
or get curious about. Like I was very curious. I
have to know what that tastes, like, I need to
try that. And then I took it over to a
friend's house and I was able to share it with
others and they were like, oh, that looks disgusting, and
(08:10):
I said, no, no, please try it. So it was
to me sort of, you know, a gift that kept
on giving. But joy is something we are able to
feel if we allow ourselves to go there. But sometimes
we're so numb to everything that's going on. I'm like,
I don't even know how to feel happiness right now,
or I don't even know how to know if I'm happy,
or I don't know if I'm sad right now.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I don't really know what I'm feeling.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
And this time of year, I think there can be
a lot of feelings, and we talk about how two
feelings that are very very opposite, or two emotions that
seem like they can't go together at the same time,
kind of like pamina, cheese and honey. They can go
together at the same time. You can feel joy during
the holiday season and you can feel immense sadness, So
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those two things can be true at the same time.
But what Amanda realized the other day is that you
were feeling sad and you were had to sit with
that for a minute.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yes, and it was it was simple, yet it was profound.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
And then you were telling me about the feelings wheel
and how it breaks down things underneath each thing.
Speaker 3 (09:28):
And so what is the what's the website? It's feelings Wheel.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
Yes, it's the feeling It's the it's the I feel
from Iminger. That's the It's Iminger dot io. And that's
where I found the one that I resonate with. There's
a ton of them. If you google feelings wheel, you'll
find one that resonates with you. But I found this
really complex feelings wheel that's also very straightforward and simple,
and it's color coded and there's concentric circles. But with sadness.
(09:55):
This has helped me tremendously and I recommend this to
clients when we're talking about emotional intelligence, and this is
something I talk about everyone all the time. I talk
about feelings and emotional intelligence because feelings and my emotional
intelligence has been this massive healing journey for me. But
I can also recognize that I just detach, disassociate, and
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absolutely shove down, numb out, put aside my feelings to
suit up, show up, and take care of whatever needs
to be done on my plate in the best way
I can. And that's not always healthy, but that's when
I know I'm in a mode where I'm needing to
slow down and really figure out what's going on so
I can be more true to myself. But this feelings
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will is great because it's helped me put names to
emotions that I can't figure out. And as Amy mentioned,
we can feel things simultaneously that might be fear alongside
of hope. We can feel things that are illogical at
the same time. So that's what to me. Sometimes emotions.
I can feel sadness, but then at that same moment
(11:01):
that I was aware that I am sad, I also
felt transcendent. I felt excited, I said excited, So I'm
sad and excited. How illogical is that it is? But
guess what emotions aren't logical. They don't fit into a spreadsheet.
You know, they're not in a spreadsheet. Emotions aren't logical,
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and we're human, we're messy.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
It makes me just I don't know, somehow tie in
the salty sweet pretzels. It's like, you know, salt, it's
the salty and the sweet. Yeah, can happen at the
same time. But I like the idea of googling a
feeling's wheel or a feelings chart or something like that, which, again,
some are more complex than others. They're very basic ones.
(11:48):
And you use the word elementary. It might seem that
way for some people because that's honestly something I do
with my kids, and I hold up, you know, maybe
ten emotions point to which one or which ones you
think you're varencing right now, and that so you may
need to take yourself back to something that is like
a little homework assignment for yourself and bust out a
(12:09):
chart and say, okay, okay, self, point to whatever I
think I'm feeling right now, and then maybe there's a
few and then you sit with each thing, maybe journal
about each thing, or just go on a walk and
you know, think about each thing, meditate on it, pray
on it, and then that way you can start to
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have awareness around what you're feeling.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Absolutely and the feelings will this one the one I have.
It's so cool because sadness happens to be sad happens
to be at the center of the wheel, and then
it fans out from there with things like lonely, guilt, depression, despair,
and then it fans out further.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
There's more but victimize.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Fragile, grief, powerlessness, empty, all of those things, not all
of those, but I just was naming a few empty,
you know, grief. Obviously grief, we all, you know, on
a logical level, we know that I'm experiencing grief. I've
shared that it's normal. But it all relates back to sadness.
And it's funny that sadness is at the center. So
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I identified what in this chart looks like a core emotion.
But that's a really helpful tool in the awareness process.
And it's the becoming aware where the light bulb goes off.
And I think sometimes the awareness is coupled with a
sense of excitement or to me, sometimes that's how I
experience my faith God, my higher power that comes through
(13:36):
and I'm like, oh, oh, I'm connected to my.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
Soul, my higher self, my higher self.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Just communicated and it's my wisdom, it's my truth, it's
my human self and my higher self, that part of
me that is connected to something larger. And from that awareness,
then I can start to take some action and the articulation,
so articulating it to myself. The other piece to the
communication of when you have that light bulb moment or
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you are able to point to the feelings on the
wheel and sit with them for a few minutes with
yourself to see maybe where they're showing up in your
body or how it really feels to feel sad or
angry or afraid or disgusted or joyful and exuberant. Once
you are able to sit with yourself and you're comfortable
(14:25):
and maybe not comfortable, but well versed better verse in
your own self awareness of your emotions, it's then being
able to share with other people other people in a
safe way. And I don't mean everyone and going into
the details, but for me, one of the biggest parts
of my spiritual, personal and healing journey is having people
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in my life, whether it's a therapist, a spiritual guide
or advisor, someone at church, a dear friend, a family
member who in my life feels safe for me to
share what's go going on where they can hold space
for me in a way that I can begin to
process and heal, start healing, start feeling.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Does that resonate? Yes?
Speaker 2 (15:12):
I like too that you say it doesn't mean finding
a way to communicate it or articulate it. It doesn't
mean everywhere with every person, or maybe you feel led
to share it more publicly one day or whatever that
looks like. And Amanda and I are talking through this
right now because this is you know, sort of in
(15:33):
alignment with what we do and trying to share certain
things that are going on now. You don't get every
single detail of every single thing, but it's coming alongside others.
And you know, I feel like I'm sharing that right
now because I'm like, okay, you've got listeners right now
that we're sharing this with. And this is more we
don't necessarily mean on a public platform, but like who
(15:56):
are you your safe people where you can really get
real with them, or your safe person or you're like
you said, you're a guide of someone that you feel
close to, like a therapist or someone that you trust
in that way.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
But it doesn't mean just putting it on.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Blasts for the whole world to know, to hear about,
or to digest. That's not the communication part. And it
may just even be yourself. Yes you said you were,
You articulate it to yourself and that can be pretty
powerful to do that well.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
And also in prayer and to God.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
If you there are people you know, I will talk
to clients and I'll say things like, Okay, who is
your person that you're going to be able to share
this with or help you hold space, or if it
has to do with some accountability on something, who can
who can you trust to hold you accountable? Who feels
okay for that healthy for that? Sometimes people will say
(16:53):
I don't know, and guess what. That's a totally okay
answer too. Sometimes when I have something going on, I
may not know who the person to turn to is.
So for me, it's I'll turn to God, you know,
I'll say, I'll start praying. I'll say, Okay, hey God,
I can't you can you know? Or Hey, I'm feeling
this and I don't know how to feel or I'm
(17:13):
experiencing this, can you help me process this? And another
thing with setting intentions. I'm big on intentions and prayer
and manifestation with your soul, your higher self, and God,
your higher power, whatever that looks like for you, but
also setting the intention, Hey Soul, hey God, hey higher self.
(17:34):
I'm not sure who or how to share this with
or what the healing journey looks like. Help me show
me thank you, Help me show me thank you, and
then and like and then breathe, just take a few
cleansing breaths. The breath is one of the most powerful
tools we have, and it's ours. It's ours, It's the
first thing we came in with. So the breath is
(17:57):
something that we forget, we can go back to and
we're shallow, you know. We breathe from the upper respiratory system,
the clavical area up. But taking a breath from you know,
the base of your belly, your diaphragm, two or three
rounds of breath. I mean, it really only takes twelve
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to sixteen seconds to process an emotion. Doesn't mean you're
not going to feel it again and it's not going
to continue happening and it's not still there. But to
become aware of it in the present moment, to inhale
and exhale it, and.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Then for me and those breaths too.
Speaker 2 (18:36):
It's because I do some breath work with my therapist
at the beginning, especially if I'm starting a session and
she can tell that I'm frazzled, I'll do some of
the breathing, and then for me, it shows up in
my throat.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
And I've talked about that before.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
It may show up somewhere else in your body, but
then my therapist will immediately have me put my hand
on my throat and then start breathing through that, and
then I.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I feel it start to sort of go away.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
But when I'm feeling something, I am so aware now
of what my throat is doing. Yeah, and I don't
know that I always noticed that this can't be something new.
It was probably happening to me all along, but I
never was in touch with it. And now I know,
and I feel it, and I'm aware of it, and
I put my hand on it and I breathe with it,
(19:23):
and I sit with it, and then I feel it
sort of calmed down a little bit, or sometimes that
might mean I need to really amp it up and
get something out.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So for you, it may show up somewhere.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I know you have some throat things too, but it
is cool to get to a place where you can
be aware of that and identify that.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
And I love breath work being a tool for that.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
In what we're talking about right now of the awareness
of the emotion, the articulation, and then where do you
go from there?
Speaker 3 (19:52):
The action the action and that has work.
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Possibly that's a huge action And one of the things
that I love the way you just shared that and
reminding everyone healing is a journey, but healing happens in
really small moments oftentimes, just like the awareness of oh
I'm sad to me, the awareness was just a healing moment.
That's a turning point for me. But the breath work
(20:16):
that you do this isn't You don't have to go
meditate for twenty minutes, or you don't necessarily have to
go on a fifteen minute walk. All those things are
wonderful tools and certainly can be incorporated, but you don't
have to feel overwhelmed in the tools and techniques breath
work or a little bit of meditation, just thirty minutes
(20:36):
of silence, feeling your feelings, identifying a feeling on a chart.
That stuff doesn't have to take hours or hours of therapy.
It's you creating your own self therapy that really begins
to work for you, and it's the awareness of it,
and it can be so profound. And I also love
that you said sometimes when you hold your throat and
(20:57):
you do the breath work with your therapist, it's not
always calming. Something comes up that you have a revelation about.
So sometimes it grounds you and calms you. Other times
it offers more wisdom and insight and guidance into your
energy field because it oxygenates, you know, the neurotransmitters in
your brain. And I go to all of those places
because our body, you know, like we've talked about, the
(21:19):
body keeps score.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
The body is intelligent.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
So paying attention, just being present for a few moments.
You know, it's been said and it's been taught to me.
Is the only thing I have control over is my attitude,
(21:43):
my actions, and you know what I do myself.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I just have control over myself.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
So if I can learn to get curious around a circumstance,
a situation, or experience, then I can more easily shift
my perspective and attitude around things. So curiosity is also
it's playful and it's using, it's harmonizing both sides of
the brain, the right and the left hemispheres of the brain.
Curiosity working with the left and right hemispheres of the brain,
(22:11):
and that helps with clarity and cognition and also the
emotional intelligence. But I do love all the action pieces
we're talking about here, because we've talked about awareness and articulation,
but all of the actions to begin to take healthy
action around who we are and what we're experiencing so
(22:34):
we continue to grow. Because to me, healing is synonymous
with growth or expansion. Healing is a process or a journey,
but it's synonymous with this element of I'm growing, I'm evolving,
I'm maturing, I'm expanding, I'm learning. I'm not reverting. And
even though to me this last handful of months, I
feel like I've just fallen back into a little bit
(22:55):
of survival mode because what's been on my plate has
been pretty immense, and it's been day to day and
you know, a day to day caregiver and working full time,
all the lifing, lifing, all the things that you all
know about. I have put certain pieces of myself and
my own self care on the back burner, and am
now now that I'm aware, really aware, and recognizing that
(23:19):
I've done that, I get to do something about it.
And I have so many tools, but I also have
people in my life that I'm comfortable with and you're
one of those people. That's been a huge part of
this journey of learning to just articulate this sensitive time
we share, you know, lots of experiences, but having the
relationships and that really support me, you know, can support
(23:43):
you all in your journey.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
You know.
Speaker 1 (23:45):
Figuring those things out, I think is very important whatever
you're walking through, whatever any of you are walking through,
finding the things that you can do with the people
in your life that you love, whether it's actual blood, family, friends, coworkers,
what whoever it may be that really creates healthy, bright
(24:06):
moments in even really tough and challenging times.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Well, and you mentioned being thankful for you know, the
baking show, so.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
You don't even know.
Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, great British baking show, Great British holiday baking show.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
Shout out love you all. True. No, Okay, see, I
have zero desire to.
Speaker 1 (24:26):
Watch that, Paul Hollywood, but all the things, Hey, if
you know out there, you know, if you know, you know, okay,
we're in the club.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Well I can vouch to the fact that I think
a few different times I have called y'all and that
is literally what you were watching, and I still haven't
checked it out, but you know you have gratitude for that,
which I think is another tool is sitting down and
practicing gratitude. So I think you know you mentioned the
baking show. So we'll do a little four things gratitude
here right now. That can be one thing. What are
(24:54):
three other things that you're currently thankful for?
Speaker 1 (24:57):
Well, I mean, since we're on the topic of attitude
and food, I'm really thankful for free toes. So speaking
of the salty, I have been on a free toe kick.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
And so you say free to I see I say freetos.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Say free toes, free toes, free toes.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I've been on a free toe kick.
Speaker 1 (25:18):
I live in Texas, so we have AGB as our
grocery store. So I have been on the h GB
lightly salted version of free toes, those smaller strip ones,
because I have needed I've needed something salty. I think
some of it matches my attitude because I've been a
little salty, but I've been so grateful for that as
as just a little pleasure or a treat that that
(25:41):
just almost makes me feel kind of childlike.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
I haven't.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
I'm not really a big chip eater, so I'm totally
grateful for free too's. I mean, I am grateful for
fresh cut flowers sitting next to my sink in the
kitchen or in the bathroom, or in my office or
you know, next to my bed. I like I mentioned,
that has been one of the biggest pleasures, but most
beautiful aspects of my life is going downstairs washing dishes,
(26:07):
grabbing some tea or coffee, and fresh flowers are sitting there,
and arranging those flowers, cutting the flowers, putting fresh water
in them, keeping them alive. That has been something that
has been so cathartic for me. And I normally I
cook quite a bit, but fresh flowers have been cathartic.
So massively grateful for fresh cut flowers.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
And the arrangement of those.
Speaker 1 (26:29):
And then I'm grateful for friendship and the people in
my life who have really shown up to hold space
for me in the way that I haven't been able
to hold space for myself. And you being one of those,
my siblings, my husband, you know, some dear friends and
spiritual advisors, but I have and clients let me say
that I have lots of clients and people that I
(26:52):
work with, and I get a little emotional saying it
because they're just people that say how are you, or
they'll send me an email and say you cross my
mind today. And this is somebody maybe I've talked to
twice in the last four years, and those always come
through at the moment I need them to come through.
So friendship, connection, people being supportive. Well, that's a lot
(27:13):
more than four things. But yeah, I know me, you
know me.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
No, but that's four things. There are no rules. Four
things just help you. It's a starting point because sometimes
sitting down to journal gratitude can be seem overwhelming or intimidating,
like I don't really know how to journal this out.
But it can be four things as a starting point. Okay,
four just could be four words some days. But it
(27:35):
also may mean that each thing that you think of
has a rabbit trill of things or there's a domino effect.
And that's what I found too with practicing gratitude, especially
the last couple of years, is there's a domino effect
and it just starts. So once you start flowing, it
does get easier. But there are days where you know
it might be a little more difficult and you feel stuck,
(27:56):
but okay, fine do one thing and I'll say too.
Maybe you have last minute gifts that you need to
shop for after the holidays, or you are interested in
gratitude and you're you want something like a tool to
help you along with it. And that's what our Four
Things Gratitude Journal is. It's a tool and Mary and
I created it as something to not be intimidating, to
(28:18):
be something easy that you can bust out. And you
can do four Things gratitude in any old journal, but
this is you know. We put quotes on each page,
we put prompts in the back their stickers, and a
couple of weeks ago we released two cover options. And
the colors are so so cute. I said, I wanted
to report back what people's favorite has been. And I
(28:40):
am a little surprised. I thought the favorite was going
to be the red and the coral colors, but the
blue and the teal color seems to be more of
a favorite, or that's what people are buying more of,
so that sort of surprised me.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
But they're both cute, so.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Not in a bad way, but anyway, four things dot
com if you want to enter the new year and
with the Four Things gratitud journ and one hundred percent
of the proceeds go to education in Haiti through Project
Meta Share. I love gratitude as a tool, and I
love breathing as a tool. And if you're someone right
now that is processing a lot. You feel the salty
(29:14):
and you feel the sweet, or you don't really even
know what you're feeling, then the point of this conversation
was to hopefully help you become aware of what it
is and then to be able to articulate it to
yourself and possibly others, and then to be able to
take some action.
Speaker 3 (29:31):
So the three a's call the Triple A and amana,
thank you for sharing.
Speaker 2 (29:36):
Even you who someone as I see that's very emotionally
intelligent and is able to tap into so many different things.
And that's what you do. You encourage people all day long.
You help people get to their highest potential, and so too,
it just shows like, Okay, not everybody has it all
together at all times, and it's okay to not. And
(29:58):
you even getting excited about an aha moment that is
so simple, Like you said, it's so simple but profound
that you had the revelation that you're sad, and then
now you're leaning into that and you're like, Okay, I'm
going to be sad, so that I no longer numb
it out or push it down, because that doesn't go
anywhere good. I tell you from experience, that goes no,
we're good real fast. And then you're in this hole
(30:21):
and you're trying to dig your way out and it
may take years to do that. So just being proactive
in that, and that's part of this conversation too, is
maybe that's where you get out the wheel.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Spin that wheel, spin the wheel wheels the wheel of
emotional fortune, right, and so what you know, but by
the way, the wheel that that I was looking at,
the circle wheel, it kind of looks like the wheel
of fortune wheel you know that they spin.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
It has all those colors on it.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
I mean. And maybe if you're doing some I don't know,
maybe this could be an activity if you're having trouble
identifying your emotion, is spin the wheel each day or
any you know, you can't really spin the wheel online,
but maybe you take your finger and you close your
eyes and you land on an emotion and then sit
with that emotion for the day and you may process
that like, oh, okay, that does not relate to me
(31:08):
at all. Okay, next emotion the next day, you put
your finger on something else, and then maybe that's how
you're able to exercise that muscle and get there.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
Is you know, a little emotional wheel fortune like you
emotional wheel of fortune.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
But you know that's so great because that also helps
you with developing intuition and connecting with your soul and
spirit because whatever you put your finger on, maybe you
can't identify with that emotion today, but maybe you have
a memory where oh that's what I was feeling. Oh
my gosh, that's what it was, and it may help
you process or become aware of something in the past
(31:44):
that was going on that you might not have actually
processed or been able to articulate. And it creates awareness
from something in the past. That So healing isn't always linear. Yes,
it's a journey, but healing is non linear as well,
meaning you go back, you know, process trauma and therapy
and with people it's it's not linear.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
So yeah, be playful with it because this is this
is big stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Yeah, And Amanda tell people where they can find you
and all the things.
Speaker 3 (32:14):
Yes, if you are wanting to connect with me.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
My name is Amanda Rieger Green on Instagram, It's at
soul Pathology. My website is soulpathology dot com. I am
an intuitive, a psychic medium, but most of all, I
work to, like Amy said, connect people with their highest self,
their highest potential, and connect the human consciousness with the soul,
(32:39):
essentially astounding you with your own abilities. And you know
if if you know me or you've worked with me,
I work with everything from neural feedback and cognition and
all of the neural sciences to astrology and numerology and
then connecting with loved ones on the other side.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
So it's just a.
Speaker 1 (33:00):
Big gumbo of tools and you just take what you
want and leave the rest. And hopefully you just leave
or walk out, you know, in working with me on
a session, feeling better, more alive, more awake and in
tune than when you came in and again soul pathology.
(33:20):
But I have all sorts of tools and resources. I
have free tools how to set intentions on my website.
I've got a great eighteen day meditation that is wonderful
for morning and evening and it really helps to get
in a flow and get in a space of peace.
So there are all sorts of tools on my website
that are good if you're just dipping the toe, your
(33:40):
toe into the water of whatever your self help, self
care and spiritual and personal journey is.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Love it, Okay.
Speaker 2 (33:48):
Hope y'all are having the day that you need to
have and that you take some time for yourself, whatever
that may look like.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
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