October 8, 2024 • 24 mins
Amy & Kat cover relationships to food & humans in this chat. Do you have a current 'food jag' right now? Amy learns from Kat that she has one right now and then they get into the benefits of humor in relationships + top reasons misunderstandings happen in relationships + red flags that are actually green.
Quotes:
“Babe what’s wrong, you don’t like pumpkin spice wartime election eclipse hurricane season?” (random meme)
“13 Year-Old Me: Don’t tell me what to do! Me Now: Could someone tell me exactly, in chronological order, and with great detail, what I have to do?” (Lana Black)
Benefits of Playful Teasing:
- Creates a bond between partners.
- Allows them to navigate conflicts and stressful situations with greater ease.
- Shows emotional closeness and comfort within the relationship.
- Helps couples address sensitive topics without causing tension.
- Fosters sense of playfulness and connection.
Top reasons why misunderstandings happen in relationships:
- Poor Listening skills
- Disrespecting your partner’s feelings
- Seeing your partner as a competitor
- Comparing your partner to another person
- Compatibility problems
- Assumptions
- Choice of friends and acquaintances
- Finances
- Always claiming to be right
- No quality time with your partner
Red flags that are actually green:
- No instant spark
- Different Hobbies
- Busy lives
- Dealing with arguments
- Setting Priorities
Here is the IG account Amy has appreciated lately: @dr.beachgem10 (ER doctor that lives in St. Pete, FL)
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat, and today's quote is a meme that I
saw on Instagram, actually screenshot it and sent it to you,
Kat after the other cat, Cryocat sent it to me.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It just goes, Babe, what's wrong?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You don't like pumpkin spice, wartime, election, eclipse, hurricane season,
question mark.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So you know, it's just.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Sort of a little relief of like, oh my, there's
a lot happening right now, and it can be really heavy,
so if something's just not feeling quite right, it's valid.
And then on top of that, there's normal everyday life
type stuff that's still happening to people. I was just
texting with my brother, so we're recording this on Monday.
(00:45):
I don't know what's going to unfold and the next
several hours when this loads for Tuesday. My brother lives
in Saint Pete. He's evacuating right now with his wife
through there, going to her parents' house or he said
a motel and another part of the state. But he
said they're expecting one hundred and seventy five mile per
hour winds and twelve feet storm search.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh my gosh, I've been.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Following this doctor in Florida. She's an er doctor. She
also lives in Saint Pete. Her account is at doctor
dot beach gem ten Gem. I found her content during
the last storm and her house flooded, and she has
a lot of really good informations.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
She's a pediatric.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Er doctor, so she also has a lot of really
helpful parenting tips or if like this happens to your
kid or this happens to you. She has a lot
of good videos from the emergency room. So she's been
a great follow not just for storm stuff, but I
think just in general. And I know that on her
page she has different links to community involvement go fundmes
(01:58):
that have been created and through the storm she's like,
this is not how I wanted to hit a million followers.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
But that's how she did it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, So definitely a moment for her where it's like,
oh man, this should be such a really cool milestone
for all that I've invested on this app, but the
reasoning behind it is a bummer. But she's really good
at what she does as an ear doctor, it seems,
but also as a content.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Creator on how do you have the time to do
both I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Some people are just when they make it look effortless,
that means it's not. That means that they.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Were real life. It doesn't look all curated.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's not like even some of the footage, Like when
she was doing it, she set up hunting cameras, except
you would put in your yard if you wanted to
capture birds, or I have a ring camera, okay like that,
but he she put those inside her house so that
while she was at the yard, she could see what
was happening with the floodwater. And that's how she had
footage of the floodwater rising in her home. She's just
(02:54):
grabbing footage from there and then doing like a selfie video,
saying like this is currently what's happening at my house.
But she just gives good information. She also has ADHD.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I think that's.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Originally how I found her, speaking of she has ADHD,
and she popped up on my feed. Oh now, I
remember it was during the beginnings of Hurricane Helene. But
it was an ADHD video that got me to click
on her page. And then I saw all her storm
stuff and I thought, oh my gosh, and then I
(03:24):
felt connected to her story. So I started following her.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But the ADHD.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Post was about her study tips and how she has
color coordinated note cards and how she arranges them helps
her brain.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
What is she studying?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Well, I think as a doctor, you're always studying. Oh,
I thought you just like went to school and then
you remembered everything.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well, I think I don't know for sure because I've
made AHD. But I think in the medical profession it's
constantly evolving.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Well, good for them that should be doing that. That
makes sense, let's hope. But yeah, you're a therapist and
you're always learning. Yeah, but I'm not studying.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I might like continuing education or reading a book, but
I'm not like making note cards. I will say, growing up,
you can ask anybody in my family. I always had
hundreds of note cards with me at all times. I
made note cards for everything.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Well, I guess being that I don't know exactly where
she is in her medical profession. All I have is
Gray's anatomy to go off of, and she could be
like an intern anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I think I have a quote.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Wait, haven't we already done the quest?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I have a different clobe. Okay, yeah, I did the
you know, the feels one. I feel like sometimes we
have a more serious one.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, that was a lie.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It was not a serious quote.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It was and that it brought up a very we're
in a you brought it into a dark season because wartime, election, eclipse, hurricane.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
See, the only thing positive there was pumpkin spice.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I don't like. So I don't think that's positive.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I used to get excited like that, fought it stuff. Yeah,
cold phone, you're not into it anymore. No, I guess
not because you. I haven't gotten it because you you
just learned. Oh I don't have a food jag for it.
Cat just taught me about food jag. Okay, okay, let's
talk about food jag in a second.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
After I say this.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
One quote from Lana Black that I came across, and
it's sort of in alignment with what we're talking about.
Just having to be an adult and make decisions about
where you're gonna evacuate, where you're going to do, who
are you going to vote for, how are you going
to handle this? You know? Yeah, it's just a lot
when you're younger. This is how you think she put
thirteen year old me. Don't tell me what to do me?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Now?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Could someone tell me exactly in chronological order and with
great detail what I have to do. I just was like, yes,
that is me right now, tell me what I need
to do, which I learned from Kat recently, like in
the last hour since she's been at my house. Because
(06:00):
all I want to do is keep eating these Grab
the Gold bars. I love my Alpha tin bars. I
love my new Go Pretzel protein bars that I've eaten
for a long time. I'm currently out of Alpha ten.
I need to get more. But even if I have
those for breakfast, at some point, I.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Have to have a Grab the Gold bar every day
and they're in a gold wrapper and they look like
a gold medal from before.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
One question, did your mom used to make you no
bake cookies? Yes, that's why I like them so much.
They're nostalgic.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Okay, So I feel like Alpha tin bars are like
no bake cookies, So I think I'm onto something.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I think I like no.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Bake cookie, tight taste things.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So that's my food jag right now, I guess would
be anything with a no baked cookie vibe.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Okay, And do you want to tell the people what
a food jag is? Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Because this I was prepared for because I was like, oh,
we should talk about that and see if anybody else
has a food jag. I literally have never heard this term,
but maybe you learned about it when you were studying
in school to be a therapist, because maybe you have.
I put it on a note card a client that
has a food jag. A food jag is when a
child or person eats the same food or foods prepared
(07:09):
in the same way repeatedly over a period of time.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's very common in children.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Me and my friends will be like, I'm on a
food jag with whatever this is. It could be a
meal from a restaurant, it could be a bar. It
could be a meal that I keep making over and
over and I'm craving it and I want it. I
want to eat it over and over again. But at
a certain point I get tired of it, like I
overdid it. You know, kind of like when you find
a song that you love and you listen to it
over and over and over, and then eventually you're like,
(07:36):
oh my gosh, I burnt myself out on that song.
Same kind of thing, and then eventually most of the
time if I stop, like I'll pick up a grab
of the gold again. But I ate them every personally,
ate them every day for breakfast for like six months.
Then I was like, I can't do this anymore. They
lose the novelty. But they also just I'm like, my
body is craving something different.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I mean, I want another one. Yeah, I'm looking at
the wrapper right now. It's empty, and I just I'll go.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So something you might want to try though, And I
have to do this too, and I obviously I just
said I was doing this with Grab the Golds. Is
when we do find something like that that we really
like to kind of force ourselves to add in some
variety so then we don't have to like never eat
that food again. So for you, you might want to
think about ways you can bring some variety into your snacky.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Do you and Patrick feel comfortable enough to make fun
of each other? Do you and Patrick feel comfortable enough
to make fun of each other? Yes, you'll have a
good humor type relationship. Because I saw this whole thing,
(08:47):
Especially now that I'm dating, I think I pay attention
to studies that I see where this is what is
really healthy for a relationship. And there's a study that
found actually it was studies like multiple this is from
Professor Jeffrey Hall. He's a researcher at the University of Kansas.
He has conducted thirty nine studies with over fifteen thousand
people over the course of thirty years. I'm sure there's
(09:10):
lots of color coded note cards and the findings from
his studies concluded that humor is a critical part of
building a successful relationship.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And I want to add something to that too. We
can make fun of each other, but it depends on
the issue. And also it's not like a contemptuous rooted
in truth making fun of somebody, like passive aggressive. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The key is like playful teasing.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah yeah, which I just like being mean like a
bully of mething.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I was just joking, like, no, that's not cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That was one of the key takeaways. It's a mutual
understanding and trust between partners. The humor needs to be playful,
not hurtful, and both partners should feel respected.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Some of the benefits of playful teasing It creates a bond.
It allows couples to navigate conflicts and stressful situations with
greater ease, shows emotional closeness and comfort within the relationship.
This work for friendships too, and I think even parent
to child yeah helps couples or friends or parents and
(10:14):
Jill children address sensitive topics without causing tension. And lastly,
it fosters a sense of playfulness and connection.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
This might sound like the but finding sweet spots within
your humor with your partners and your friends is a
good test of a lasting relationship in general, Like if
your humor doesn't align, then it's hard to really have
fun with.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, that's a compatibility problem for sure. I did see
that the top misunderstandings for couples, and that was one
of the top.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Ones, like their humor design way, I know, well.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
A compatibility problem. Another one was poor listening skills, which
I mean, that's just any relationship, disrespecting your partner's feelings.
So if you're taking maybe if you take the humor
a little too far and you laugh a little too.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Hard, which I think happens every now and then, right,
But then if you have a healthy relationship, you should
be able to communicate like this happened to me, and
you were laughing so hard, like this is how it
made me feel? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Or how do you sound?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I can't remember what it was, but I remember last
summer us skinning in a little, I got my feelings
hurt because Patrick was making fun of something I want
to say. We were in a group, and at first
it was funny and I could laugh, but then it
was like every time I was with those people where
every time I was I don't know, it went too
far and I was like, I don't want to be
the butt of the joke for forever. And he was
(11:37):
able to say, Okay, I get how that would get old.
If somebody brings that up again, I'll help shut it
down versus egg it on. But at first he did
hurt my feelings, and then I was able to say
and then if he's like, oh, you're being sensitive, that's
a red flag. But if they're like, wow, I can
actually see how that would get a little frustrating and hurtful.
I'm gonna help stand up for you next time.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, I wish the in public type stuff can be
really hard because there's your ego.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, and I think that I don't know if you
have examples of stuff like that too. But I can
make fun of myself, but it's like when it keeps
get getting brought up, can we move on to something else?
Can we laugh at somebody else for once? You don't
always want to feel like you're at risk.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
While you were talking, I found the whole list of reasons.
So these are the top reasons that misunderstandings happen in relationships.
And this is for marriage dot com, so you know
it's legit.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You said that, so seriously, poor.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Listening skills, disrespecting your partner's feelings, seeing your partner as
a competitor, comparing your partner to another person.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh yikes.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Then there's the compatibility problems that I mentioned. Assumptions, which
that's just that can be so difficult in any relationship
because we tend to always assume the worst. And so
the encouragement there is what if you just soume the
best shout out Brene Brown choice of friends and acquaintances. Well,
I feel like that's a valid misunderstanding. But I guess
(13:09):
if you have the wrong idea about.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Like if you don't like their friends, if their friends
you're like, oh, this is like I don't know about
this crowd.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Right, that's not a misunderstanding though, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's a hit. The misunderstanding is why did you like
that girl's photo on Instagram with a swimsuit. Are you
trying to say something No, No, I'm just saying like
that would be Oh, that's a misunderstanding.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That's my friend Tina from.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But why did you have to like her bathing suit pick?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Oh she's a swimsuit model.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
O Gate. Oh No, that's Tina from Accounting. I just
thought I should support her, you know, Yeah, I don't know.
Let's see finances. Is another one, always claiming to be right,
no quality time with your partner. Yeah, I'd say that's
a big misunderstanding if you can't find time to connect
(14:05):
or I couldn't imagine being in a relationship with someone
who was always right or they can't like take a
second to hear the other people ever ever, say you
know what you're right.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Or nobody's right. Yeah, I can see your point of view.
That's one of my biggest fears of I don't want
to be one of those people.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I don't think that you are. I think that you
are very passionate about your feelings, but you take time
to hear people out.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That was a really nice way of being like, maybe
you should work on that.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
No, I don't think so at all. I love your personality.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I love how loyal you are and fired up you
get about certain things, and I think you are very
open to other people's opinions. But also if you like
sniff out a red flag, you just don't have time
for it. And I think you have a strong noe
sniffer sniffer. Her Cat and I were just going through
(15:03):
my hinge profile and looking at different guys and options
and sniffing around, and the content that is there is interesting.
I let Kat look at the guys that have recently
matched with me before I even looked at them, and
I let her tell me things about them. And I
did come across recently like a list of red flags
(15:25):
that are actually green. Like I know you have a
good sniffer for red flags, like just in humans in general.
But this reminded me of the one guy that I
went out with because I saw it as a red
flag but it was actually green, and it was that
there's not an instant spark yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Also busy lives.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
That looks like a red flag but really it's green.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, And it's like just hard to juggle everything if
both of you have kids and you're navigating a lot.
But the list included no instant spark. It says, here,
don't worry if they're there's no immediate connection. Building a
relationship over time can lead to a stronger bond, showing
that you're willing to understand each other deeply.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
When it's not just about immediate like physical chemistry either
or a shiny thing about a person, it's really the
person's personality, just like oh, he has a cool job,
or he travels to cool places or whatever. It's actually
the wholeness of who they are. I think that's helpful
when you have to slowly get to know them and
then you appreciate a lot of things about them versus
(16:29):
like these big, shiny things that might fade over time.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
It's like, I don't know how to handle like that
one guy that I ended up he matched with me,
so then I clicked it back and then he's like,
I want to go get drinks tonight, And I was like.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I haven't even exchanged.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Words with you yet, so so what did you not
a little too fast?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Okay you felt like that's too fast.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Well, I would rather talk a little bit on the
app before we're just gonna go meet somewhere. I guess
people are different because then another guy in his file,
it says, I have no time for chit chat on
this app. I'd rather meet you in personal. Let's just
cut to the chase and figure out what's happening. I'm like, okay,
but I mean this guy he's very into Star Wars.
I am not like, let's just go ahead and talk
(17:12):
about a few things before we waste time, like getting ready. Yeah,
like my friend last weekend was going on a night
time date with somebody else, in a lunchtime date with
someone else the next day. And I'm like, you're gonna
get ready twice one weekend. Well, well, yeah, I know
it's important to you.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
But I don't like when people have on their dating
profile or I didn't like I don't like the chit chat,
let's cut to it. I don't like when there's like
negativity on it. There's a kinder more I think, softer
attractive way to say that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Or to express that, Yeah, he didn't look like the
kinder softer time. Okay, just buy the photo. Different hobbies.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Having varied interests is actually beneficial because it allows you
to learn from each other and explore new activities together.
You know that one guy I was looking at all
of his adventure that he does. I'm like, this guy's
way too adventurous for me. He's all over, but you
might do something new.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I do want to be more adventurous. I'm just like, when.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
When do I have time?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I have to get ready for all these days because
the next thing is busy lives. It's normal to have
individual commitments outside of dating, respect each other's space, and
understand that immediate responses may not always be possible.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
But I want you to reply right away.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
You know what, when I asked Patrick, I don't know
when this, I asked him, might have been recently. If
there was any hesitation when he met me, what was it?
And he said, I didn't really have hesitation about you.
I was worried that you weren't going to have time
to like hang out because when we first started dating,
he would ask me when I was free, and I'd
be like, oh, I have something Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
(18:51):
I would give him like one day. And I think
back then, I did have a lot of stuff going
on work wise and socially, and for the first couple
of weeks it was hard to now something down but
what started happening to me is the more I got
to know him and the more I started to like him,
the more I was willing to shift other parts of
my schedule.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Green flag.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I would be patient with, like the busyness. It's like, well,
once somebody, like, I'm not going to rearrange my schedule
for somebody I don't know that well, like, I'll see
him when I can see him.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Or a black cat energy black cat? Did we talk
about that Golden Retriever black cat? Yeah, I was being
a black Cat and now I'm the golden Retriever. I'm like,
I want to hang out with you all the time,
but I feel.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Like Patrick's a Golden Retriever for you too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So, but that was cool to see watch myself do that.
It's like, I don't have to be this busy. I
can shift things. I don't have to go to every
single one of these things. I can make time for
this person, but I also want to make sure that
I'm making time for people that I care to make
time for and not just anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Dealing with arguments is another green flag. What do you mean, Like,
if you think arguments are a red flag, Well, arguments
are natural.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, so it's a red flag that you're you never
ever ever have any confident.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Right and if you don't ever figure out how to
handle them, then that would be a red flag. But
if you learn how to handle with respect and understanding,
it can actually strengthen your relationship. And then lastly, setting
priorities you take your relationship slowly, recognize it's okay to
have other commitments. It sounds like you Cat you were
just such a walking green flag. Find a balance that
(20:24):
works for both of you, ensuring that your relationship fits
into your lives, which I guess that's what I'm doing
right now with my thing.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You're saying your dating life, my dating life.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, I would say I have a dating life update.
I know we have a story to share. I don't
think I'm gonna share right now, but we'll share it
one day. It's sharable Saturday night. Oh yeah, it's definitely shareable.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Probably a whole episode could be built around how that
was handled, but also just communication and what did I
say to you on the phone after it. Gosh, information
is so powerful and we know that that's not rocket science.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Don't quote me because it's.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Like quote me, but information is powerful because yes, I'm
not telling you anything profound or new, but it's just
very what's the word for me right now, satisfying, Like
I feel satisfaction with myself knowing how I feel after
I was given information and how I processed it and
(21:26):
how it changed everything, because I think if I didn't
have that piece of information, I was left lingering and
questioning and wondering and asking myself all these questions and
then boom, I'm given a little piece of information that
then gives me clarity and as a lot of those
feelings that I had or the questions are gonna gave
me something in my nervous system, poof.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
But your body knows that. I think also recognizing that
my body recognized when there was missing information, and I
think you said this. I don't know if you said
in the same way, but information gives you agency to
make choices. And I think a lot of times when
we're dating, or we do this in any relationship, we
withhold information because we want to protect somebody or we
(22:08):
want to control the situation ourselves, when really we need
to if we want to be fair and the relationships
we're in, we need to give the information that's necessary
so all parties involved can make decisions that are best
for them.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And now I'm even thinking of that outside of relationships.
Like information in all different categories gives you agency. For example,
in my marriage, I wasn't involved in finances, and then
I had no choice but to get involved. And then
I was given all this information that I never had
and it was empowering and it gave me agency. So
then I could make decisions. And what once stressed me
(22:44):
out and I had anxiety about looking at once I
had the information logging into my bank account, I don't
get as stressed because I know I have the information.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, you're prepared.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I'm prepared and I'm taking agency and I'm learning and
I'm taking control. And so whether it's it's in a
romantic relationship, a friendship, at work, your finances, whatever it is, Yeah,
the information is not only power. Like you said, information
gives you agency.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Simple, but also it's like a big deal.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
All right, Kat, Where can people find you?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
On Instagram? At Kat van Buren and at Unique Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And I am at Radio Amy and I guess coming
up we'll have that story that I can't say yet,
but I will I'm not withholding because I'm trying to
be all like, uh, because I'm not even teasing anything.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't know when we can say it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I just want to think about time appropriate, you know,
just yeah, I could say it now.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Well, I don't think you need to share certain updates
when you're in the middle of them.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yes, I will, out of respect for you and the people. Yeah,
well yeah, but I'm not saying who it is, so
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
But also, I feel like we've got that we could
talk about that's exciting. And then Kat and I also
are in talks of something that could potentially be life.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Changing for everybody. Don't you think I feel like it
could be.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I'm not saying like it's for sure, for sure, for sure,
but I mean it feels kind of for sure. There's
just a lot going on, but it could be something
fun and I get excited thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Oh do you Yeah? Are you sure?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
But I'm trying not to think about too much because
you're acting like it might not happen.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
No, I'm not, actually I'm not, I'm not. I guess
I'm just being careful, care caution because there's certain conversations
you and I both have not had yet. Yeah, Like
it's not like should we have it right done deal now?
I think that that requires us talking to other people.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
This is the kind of teas that's like annoying. It
like makes people actually.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Not like bait.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
They said nothing, Yeah, okay, all right. I hope y'all
are having the day that you need to have. Be
a green flag
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing. I'm Amy and
I'm Kat, and today's quote is a meme that I
saw on Instagram, actually screenshot it and sent it to you,
Kat after the other cat, Cryocat sent it to me.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
It just goes, Babe, what's wrong?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
You don't like pumpkin spice, wartime, election, eclipse, hurricane season,
question mark.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
So you know, it's just.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Sort of a little relief of like, oh my, there's
a lot happening right now, and it can be really heavy,
so if something's just not feeling quite right, it's valid.
And then on top of that, there's normal everyday life
type stuff that's still happening to people. I was just
texting with my brother, so we're recording this on Monday.
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I don't know what's going to unfold and the next
several hours when this loads for Tuesday. My brother lives
in Saint Pete. He's evacuating right now with his wife
through there, going to her parents' house or he said
a motel and another part of the state. But he
said they're expecting one hundred and seventy five mile per
hour winds and twelve feet storm search.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
Oh my gosh, I've been.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Following this doctor in Florida. She's an er doctor. She
also lives in Saint Pete. Her account is at doctor
dot beach gem ten Gem. I found her content during
the last storm and her house flooded, and she has
a lot of really good informations.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
She's a pediatric.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Er doctor, so she also has a lot of really
helpful parenting tips or if like this happens to your
kid or this happens to you. She has a lot
of good videos from the emergency room. So she's been
a great follow not just for storm stuff, but I
think just in general. And I know that on her
page she has different links to community involvement go fundmes
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that have been created and through the storm she's like,
this is not how I wanted to hit a million followers.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
But that's how she did it.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, So definitely a moment for her where it's like,
oh man, this should be such a really cool milestone
for all that I've invested on this app, but the
reasoning behind it is a bummer. But she's really good
at what she does as an ear doctor, it seems,
but also as a content.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Creator on how do you have the time to do
both I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Some people are just when they make it look effortless,
that means it's not. That means that they.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Were real life. It doesn't look all curated.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
It's not like even some of the footage, Like when
she was doing it, she set up hunting cameras, except
you would put in your yard if you wanted to
capture birds, or I have a ring camera, okay like that,
but he she put those inside her house so that
while she was at the yard, she could see what
was happening with the floodwater. And that's how she had
footage of the floodwater rising in her home. She's just
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grabbing footage from there and then doing like a selfie video,
saying like this is currently what's happening at my house.
But she just gives good information. She also has ADHD.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
I think that's.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Originally how I found her, speaking of she has ADHD,
and she popped up on my feed. Oh now, I
remember it was during the beginnings of Hurricane Helene. But
it was an ADHD video that got me to click
on her page. And then I saw all her storm
stuff and I thought, oh my gosh, and then I
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felt connected to her story. So I started following her.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
But the ADHD.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Post was about her study tips and how she has
color coordinated note cards and how she arranges them helps
her brain.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
What is she studying?
Speaker 4 (03:40):
Well, I think as a doctor, you're always studying. Oh,
I thought you just like went to school and then
you remembered everything.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
Well, I think I don't know for sure because I've
made AHD. But I think in the medical profession it's
constantly evolving.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Well, good for them that should be doing that. That
makes sense, let's hope. But yeah, you're a therapist and
you're always learning. Yeah, but I'm not studying.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I might like continuing education or reading a book, but
I'm not like making note cards. I will say, growing up,
you can ask anybody in my family. I always had
hundreds of note cards with me at all times. I
made note cards for everything.
Speaker 1 (04:18):
Well, I guess being that I don't know exactly where
she is in her medical profession. All I have is
Gray's anatomy to go off of, and she could be
like an intern anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I think I have a quote.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Wait, haven't we already done the quest?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
I have a different clobe. Okay, yeah, I did the
you know, the feels one. I feel like sometimes we
have a more serious one.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Well, that was a lie.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
It was not a serious quote.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
It was and that it brought up a very we're
in a you brought it into a dark season because wartime, election, eclipse, hurricane.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
See, the only thing positive there was pumpkin spice.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
I don't like. So I don't think that's positive.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I used to get excited like that, fought it stuff. Yeah,
cold phone, you're not into it anymore. No, I guess
not because you. I haven't gotten it because you you
just learned. Oh I don't have a food jag for it.
Cat just taught me about food jag. Okay, okay, let's
talk about food jag in a second.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
After I say this.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
One quote from Lana Black that I came across, and
it's sort of in alignment with what we're talking about.
Just having to be an adult and make decisions about
where you're gonna evacuate, where you're going to do, who
are you going to vote for, how are you going
to handle this? You know? Yeah, it's just a lot
when you're younger. This is how you think she put
thirteen year old me. Don't tell me what to do me?
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Now?
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Could someone tell me exactly in chronological order and with
great detail what I have to do. I just was like, yes,
that is me right now, tell me what I need
to do, which I learned from Kat recently, like in
the last hour since she's been at my house. Because
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all I want to do is keep eating these Grab
the Gold bars. I love my Alpha tin bars. I
love my new Go Pretzel protein bars that I've eaten
for a long time. I'm currently out of Alpha ten.
I need to get more. But even if I have
those for breakfast, at some point, I.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Have to have a Grab the Gold bar every day
and they're in a gold wrapper and they look like
a gold medal from before.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
One question, did your mom used to make you no
bake cookies? Yes, that's why I like them so much.
They're nostalgic.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Okay, So I feel like Alpha tin bars are like
no bake cookies, So I think I'm onto something.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
I think I like no.
Speaker 3 (06:34):
Bake cookie, tight taste things.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
So that's my food jag right now, I guess would
be anything with a no baked cookie vibe.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Okay, And do you want to tell the people what
a food jag is? Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Because this I was prepared for because I was like, oh,
we should talk about that and see if anybody else
has a food jag. I literally have never heard this term,
but maybe you learned about it when you were studying
in school to be a therapist, because maybe you have.
I put it on a note card a client that
has a food jag. A food jag is when a
child or person eats the same food or foods prepared
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in the same way repeatedly over a period of time.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
It's very common in children.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Me and my friends will be like, I'm on a
food jag with whatever this is. It could be a
meal from a restaurant, it could be a bar. It
could be a meal that I keep making over and
over and I'm craving it and I want it. I
want to eat it over and over again. But at
a certain point I get tired of it, like I
overdid it. You know, kind of like when you find
a song that you love and you listen to it
over and over and over, and then eventually you're like,
(07:36):
oh my gosh, I burnt myself out on that song.
Same kind of thing, and then eventually most of the
time if I stop, like I'll pick up a grab
of the gold again. But I ate them every personally,
ate them every day for breakfast for like six months.
Then I was like, I can't do this anymore. They
lose the novelty. But they also just I'm like, my
body is craving something different.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
I mean, I want another one. Yeah, I'm looking at
the wrapper right now. It's empty, and I just I'll go.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
So something you might want to try though, And I
have to do this too, and I obviously I just
said I was doing this with Grab the Golds. Is
when we do find something like that that we really
like to kind of force ourselves to add in some
variety so then we don't have to like never eat
that food again. So for you, you might want to
think about ways you can bring some variety into your snacky.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Do you and Patrick feel comfortable enough to make fun
of each other? Do you and Patrick feel comfortable enough
to make fun of each other? Yes, you'll have a
good humor type relationship. Because I saw this whole thing,
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Especially now that I'm dating, I think I pay attention
to studies that I see where this is what is
really healthy for a relationship. And there's a study that
found actually it was studies like multiple this is from
Professor Jeffrey Hall. He's a researcher at the University of Kansas.
He has conducted thirty nine studies with over fifteen thousand
people over the course of thirty years. I'm sure there's
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lots of color coded note cards and the findings from
his studies concluded that humor is a critical part of
building a successful relationship.
Speaker 3 (09:20):
And I want to add something to that too. We
can make fun of each other, but it depends on
the issue. And also it's not like a contemptuous rooted
in truth making fun of somebody, like passive aggressive. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The key is like playful teasing.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah yeah, which I just like being mean like a
bully of mething.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (09:40):
I was just joking, like, no, that's not cool. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
That was one of the key takeaways. It's a mutual
understanding and trust between partners. The humor needs to be playful,
not hurtful, and both partners should feel respected.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Some of the benefits of playful teasing It creates a bond.
It allows couples to navigate conflicts and stressful situations with
greater ease, shows emotional closeness and comfort within the relationship.
This work for friendships too, and I think even parent
to child yeah helps couples or friends or parents and
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Jill children address sensitive topics without causing tension. And lastly,
it fosters a sense of playfulness and connection.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
This might sound like the but finding sweet spots within
your humor with your partners and your friends is a
good test of a lasting relationship in general, Like if
your humor doesn't align, then it's hard to really have
fun with.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, that's a compatibility problem for sure. I did see
that the top misunderstandings for couples, and that was one
of the top.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Ones, like their humor design way, I know, well.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
A compatibility problem. Another one was poor listening skills, which
I mean, that's just any relationship, disrespecting your partner's feelings.
So if you're taking maybe if you take the humor
a little too far and you laugh a little too.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Hard, which I think happens every now and then, right,
But then if you have a healthy relationship, you should
be able to communicate like this happened to me, and
you were laughing so hard, like this is how it
made me feel? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Or how do you sound?
Speaker 3 (11:16):
I can't remember what it was, but I remember last
summer us skinning in a little, I got my feelings
hurt because Patrick was making fun of something I want
to say. We were in a group, and at first
it was funny and I could laugh, but then it
was like every time I was with those people where
every time I was I don't know, it went too
far and I was like, I don't want to be
the butt of the joke for forever. And he was
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able to say, Okay, I get how that would get old.
If somebody brings that up again, I'll help shut it
down versus egg it on. But at first he did
hurt my feelings, and then I was able to say
and then if he's like, oh, you're being sensitive, that's
a red flag. But if they're like, wow, I can
actually see how that would get a little frustrating and hurtful.
I'm gonna help stand up for you next time.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, I wish the in public type stuff can be
really hard because there's your ego.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, and I think that I don't know if you
have examples of stuff like that too. But I can
make fun of myself, but it's like when it keeps
get getting brought up, can we move on to something else?
Can we laugh at somebody else for once? You don't
always want to feel like you're at risk.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
While you were talking, I found the whole list of reasons.
So these are the top reasons that misunderstandings happen in relationships.
And this is for marriage dot com, so you know
it's legit.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
You said that, so seriously, poor.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Listening skills, disrespecting your partner's feelings, seeing your partner as
a competitor, comparing your partner to another person.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Oh yikes.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
Then there's the compatibility problems that I mentioned. Assumptions, which
that's just that can be so difficult in any relationship
because we tend to always assume the worst. And so
the encouragement there is what if you just soume the
best shout out Brene Brown choice of friends and acquaintances. Well,
I feel like that's a valid misunderstanding. But I guess
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if you have the wrong idea about.
Speaker 3 (13:11):
Like if you don't like their friends, if their friends
you're like, oh, this is like I don't know about
this crowd.
Speaker 1 (13:15):
Right, that's not a misunderstanding though, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's a hit. The misunderstanding is why did you like
that girl's photo on Instagram with a swimsuit. Are you
trying to say something No, No, I'm just saying like
that would be Oh, that's a misunderstanding.
Speaker 2 (13:34):
That's my friend Tina from.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
But why did you have to like her bathing suit pick?
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Oh she's a swimsuit model.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
O Gate. Oh No, that's Tina from Accounting. I just
thought I should support her, you know, Yeah, I don't know.
Let's see finances. Is another one, always claiming to be right,
no quality time with your partner. Yeah, I'd say that's
a big misunderstanding if you can't find time to connect
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or I couldn't imagine being in a relationship with someone
who was always right or they can't like take a
second to hear the other people ever ever, say you
know what you're right.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Or nobody's right. Yeah, I can see your point of view.
That's one of my biggest fears of I don't want
to be one of those people.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
I don't think that you are. I think that you
are very passionate about your feelings, but you take time
to hear people out.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
That was a really nice way of being like, maybe
you should work on that.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
No, I don't think so at all. I love your personality.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
I love how loyal you are and fired up you
get about certain things, and I think you are very
open to other people's opinions. But also if you like
sniff out a red flag, you just don't have time
for it. And I think you have a strong noe
sniffer sniffer. Her Cat and I were just going through
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my hinge profile and looking at different guys and options
and sniffing around, and the content that is there is interesting.
I let Kat look at the guys that have recently
matched with me before I even looked at them, and
I let her tell me things about them. And I
did come across recently like a list of red flags
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that are actually green. Like I know you have a
good sniffer for red flags, like just in humans in general.
But this reminded me of the one guy that I
went out with because I saw it as a red
flag but it was actually green, and it was that
there's not an instant spark yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
Also busy lives.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
That looks like a red flag but really it's green.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
Yeah, And it's like just hard to juggle everything if
both of you have kids and you're navigating a lot.
But the list included no instant spark. It says, here,
don't worry if they're there's no immediate connection. Building a
relationship over time can lead to a stronger bond, showing
that you're willing to understand each other deeply.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
When it's not just about immediate like physical chemistry either
or a shiny thing about a person, it's really the
person's personality, just like oh, he has a cool job,
or he travels to cool places or whatever. It's actually
the wholeness of who they are. I think that's helpful
when you have to slowly get to know them and
then you appreciate a lot of things about them versus
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like these big, shiny things that might fade over time.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
It's like, I don't know how to handle like that
one guy that I ended up he matched with me,
so then I clicked it back and then he's like,
I want to go get drinks tonight, And I was like.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I haven't even exchanged.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Words with you yet, so so what did you not
a little too fast?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Okay you felt like that's too fast.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Well, I would rather talk a little bit on the
app before we're just gonna go meet somewhere. I guess
people are different because then another guy in his file,
it says, I have no time for chit chat on
this app. I'd rather meet you in personal. Let's just
cut to the chase and figure out what's happening. I'm like, okay,
but I mean this guy he's very into Star Wars.
I am not like, let's just go ahead and talk
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about a few things before we waste time, like getting ready. Yeah,
like my friend last weekend was going on a night
time date with somebody else, in a lunchtime date with
someone else the next day. And I'm like, you're gonna
get ready twice one weekend. Well, well, yeah, I know
it's important to you.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
But I don't like when people have on their dating
profile or I didn't like I don't like the chit chat,
let's cut to it. I don't like when there's like
negativity on it. There's a kinder more I think, softer
attractive way to say that.
Speaker 2 (17:47):
Or to express that, Yeah, he didn't look like the
kinder softer time. Okay, just buy the photo. Different hobbies.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Having varied interests is actually beneficial because it allows you
to learn from each other and explore new activities together.
You know that one guy I was looking at all
of his adventure that he does. I'm like, this guy's
way too adventurous for me. He's all over, but you
might do something new.
Speaker 2 (18:10):
I do want to be more adventurous. I'm just like, when.
Speaker 3 (18:13):
When do I have time?
Speaker 1 (18:14):
I have to get ready for all these days because
the next thing is busy lives. It's normal to have
individual commitments outside of dating, respect each other's space, and
understand that immediate responses may not always be possible.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
But I want you to reply right away.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
You know what, when I asked Patrick, I don't know
when this, I asked him, might have been recently. If
there was any hesitation when he met me, what was it?
And he said, I didn't really have hesitation about you.
I was worried that you weren't going to have time
to like hang out because when we first started dating,
he would ask me when I was free, and I'd
be like, oh, I have something Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday.
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I would give him like one day. And I think
back then, I did have a lot of stuff going
on work wise and socially, and for the first couple
of weeks it was hard to now something down but
what started happening to me is the more I got
to know him and the more I started to like him,
the more I was willing to shift other parts of
my schedule.
Speaker 2 (19:09):
Green flag.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
I would be patient with, like the busyness. It's like, well,
once somebody, like, I'm not going to rearrange my schedule
for somebody I don't know that well, like, I'll see
him when I can see him.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
Or a black cat energy black cat? Did we talk
about that Golden Retriever black cat? Yeah, I was being
a black Cat and now I'm the golden Retriever. I'm like,
I want to hang out with you all the time,
but I feel.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
Like Patrick's a Golden Retriever for you too. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
So, but that was cool to see watch myself do that.
It's like, I don't have to be this busy. I
can shift things. I don't have to go to every
single one of these things. I can make time for
this person, but I also want to make sure that
I'm making time for people that I care to make
time for and not just anybody.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Dealing with arguments is another green flag. What do you mean, Like,
if you think arguments are a red flag, Well, arguments
are natural.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, so it's a red flag that you're you never
ever ever have any confident.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Right and if you don't ever figure out how to
handle them, then that would be a red flag. But
if you learn how to handle with respect and understanding,
it can actually strengthen your relationship. And then lastly, setting
priorities you take your relationship slowly, recognize it's okay to
have other commitments. It sounds like you Cat you were
just such a walking green flag. Find a balance that
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works for both of you, ensuring that your relationship fits
into your lives, which I guess that's what I'm doing
right now with my thing.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
You're saying your dating life, my dating life.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, I would say I have a dating life update.
I know we have a story to share. I don't
think I'm gonna share right now, but we'll share it
one day. It's sharable Saturday night. Oh yeah, it's definitely shareable.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
Probably a whole episode could be built around how that
was handled, but also just communication and what did I
say to you on the phone after it. Gosh, information
is so powerful and we know that that's not rocket science.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
Don't quote me because it's.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Like quote me, but information is powerful because yes, I'm
not telling you anything profound or new, but it's just
very what's the word for me right now, satisfying, Like
I feel satisfaction with myself knowing how I feel after
I was given information and how I processed it and
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how it changed everything, because I think if I didn't
have that piece of information, I was left lingering and
questioning and wondering and asking myself all these questions and
then boom, I'm given a little piece of information that
then gives me clarity and as a lot of those
feelings that I had or the questions are gonna gave
me something in my nervous system, poof.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
But your body knows that. I think also recognizing that
my body recognized when there was missing information, and I
think you said this. I don't know if you said
in the same way, but information gives you agency to
make choices. And I think a lot of times when
we're dating, or we do this in any relationship, we
withhold information because we want to protect somebody or we
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want to control the situation ourselves, when really we need
to if we want to be fair and the relationships
we're in, we need to give the information that's necessary
so all parties involved can make decisions that are best
for them.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And now I'm even thinking of that outside of relationships.
Like information in all different categories gives you agency. For example,
in my marriage, I wasn't involved in finances, and then
I had no choice but to get involved. And then
I was given all this information that I never had
and it was empowering and it gave me agency. So
then I could make decisions. And what once stressed me
(22:44):
out and I had anxiety about looking at once I
had the information logging into my bank account, I don't
get as stressed because I know I have the information.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Yeah, you're prepared.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
I'm prepared and I'm taking agency and I'm learning and
I'm taking control. And so whether it's it's in a
romantic relationship, a friendship, at work, your finances, whatever it is, Yeah,
the information is not only power. Like you said, information
gives you agency.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Simple, but also it's like a big deal.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
All right, Kat, Where can people find you?
Speaker 3 (23:14):
On Instagram? At Kat van Buren and at Unique Therapy podcast.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
And I am at Radio Amy and I guess coming
up we'll have that story that I can't say yet,
but I will I'm not withholding because I'm trying to
be all like, uh, because I'm not even teasing anything.
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I don't know when we can say it.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I just want to think about time appropriate, you know,
just yeah, I could say it now.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
Well, I don't think you need to share certain updates
when you're in the middle of them.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
Yes, I will, out of respect for you and the people. Yeah,
well yeah, but I'm not saying who it is, so
it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
But also, I feel like we've got that we could
talk about that's exciting. And then Kat and I also
are in talks of something that could potentially be life.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
Changing for everybody. Don't you think I feel like it
could be.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
I'm not saying like it's for sure, for sure, for sure,
but I mean it feels kind of for sure. There's
just a lot going on, but it could be something
fun and I get excited thinking about it.
Speaker 3 (24:13):
Oh do you Yeah? Are you sure?
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
But I'm trying not to think about too much because
you're acting like it might not happen.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
No, I'm not, actually I'm not, I'm not. I guess
I'm just being careful, care caution because there's certain conversations
you and I both have not had yet. Yeah, Like
it's not like should we have it right done deal now?
I think that that requires us talking to other people.
Speaker 3 (24:32):
Yeah, stay tuned.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
This is the kind of teas that's like annoying. It
like makes people actually.
Speaker 3 (24:38):
Not like bait.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
They said nothing, Yeah, okay, all right. I hope y'all
are having the day that you need to have. Be
a green flag
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