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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 1 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just fons Amy
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do you just follow Anna.
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M but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can do
it jes stop you feel things.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
This is Feeling Things.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
With Amy and Kat. Happy Thursday. Welcome to Couch Talks,
our Q and a episode of our Feeling Things podcast.
I'm Amy and I'm Kat.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
And quick disclaimer before we get into today's episode that
although we usually answer some of your questions on this episode,
it does not serve as a replacement for actual therapy.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
We hope it helps you.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
We got a few emails today and the first one
is from Emily, and I love her question. And it
never occurred to me that this might need some explaining,
But it totally makes sense that it needs some explaining,
So I'm glad we get to do this. Thank you
for your email, Emily. She said, Hi, I like the
merch and I listened to the podcast all the time,
but I never understood what have the day you need
(01:10):
to have means? Can you explain that please thanks your friend, Emily,
And I'm going to throw this over to you, Kat,
because this is a saying that you brought to the podcast.
You had this as part of your merch for you
need therapy back in the day. This is something you
have said a lot, So where does it come from
in your life? And then also, yeah, what does it mean?
Speaker 1 (01:33):
So this is something that somebody told me years ago.
It was probably like twenty sixteen. I was having a
very bad day and I think I was just like
sad and angry. I had all the feelings, and I
was like, you know what, I need to get out
of the house. I went to this gym called get
(01:54):
Fit that is no longer around, but was a really awesome, safe,
cool space owned by this girl named Kate Moore, and
she was very upbeat, but she also was very like
you do you if you don't like the workout today,
you can go like stretch in the corner.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
I don't care, like you know your body better than
anybody else. So that was like the vibe of the place.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
So I go and as I come in, she asked
how I was doing, and I said not great, which
normally I feel like in those kinds of spaces, you're
just like good. But that was the kind of environment
where I was like not having a great day. And
as I was leaving, I did the workout. As I
was leaving, she said it was Tuesday. She said, I
hope you have a Tuesday. And I was like what,
(02:35):
And she said, have a Tuesday, Like, you don't need
to have a good day.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
It's okay if it's a bad day, just like have
the day you need to have. And that stuck with me.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I think the workout didn't make me feel any better,
and I still had all those feelings, but there was
a sense of like, oh, this is okay. I don't
need to like go get this out of me. I'm
allowed to just have these feelings and thank you for
that prombition. Why have I never thought of this? Yes?
Why have I always thought every time I have a
bad day, I need to turn it around And sometimes
you don't need to. And so when I started you
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need therapy, I was.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Like, how do I end this thing? You know, like
at the end of an episode, you're like, Okay, what
do we say now?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Like, what's your closer? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I didn't have one, So I just started saying that
and it stuck. And I think a lot of people
have what's the word related to it, or needed it
or it's been helpful them. And I think a lot
of and this is not bad that people do this,
This is neutral, but a lot of times people will
want you like have a good day, or have the
best day you can or have whatever. And I just
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have realized a lot of people, myself included, have been
waiting for permission to just like have the day that
you need to have. I don't know what that is
for you. It can be something different for both of us.
But how do they need to have and then tomorrow
have the day you need to have?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
How does one like? It just popped into my head,
So I'm going to ask this question that maybe somebody
else is thinking. But how could that ever be used
as an excuse for some behavior? Oh? But like how
do you how does one know if like they're leaning
on it a little too much? Like, well, I'm just
having the day that I need to have, so I
(04:10):
get to act this way? So how do your eye awareness?
I mean, you may not do this, but I'm thinking
of like, well, I think all we can lean on
certain things as ah, I love how the day you
need to have, and I support it. I guess I'm
playing like a little since we're talking about it, I'm
playing a little Devil's advocate of like, well, what if
someone's just having the day they need to have a
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little too often? So, you know, so when does it
become okay? I think that you've taken this too far.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You've lost the plot.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yes, you've lost the plot. That's a good way to
It's a good twenty twenty five way to put it.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, gen Z way to put it.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Okay, what what the what the gen Zers said?
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Would say?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
So I'm going to answer this with a more throw
it back on you kind of thing, because in fair world,
let's say somebody's coming in to process a certain thing
and we notice as a therapist a lot of resistance
from that person. They just like won't go there, or
they keep bringing the same thing up, or whatever was
supposed to happen during this like thing that I'm doing
(05:14):
with them isn't working.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
You're supposed to roll with resistance, like don't.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Argue, don't fight, don't push back, roll with resistance because
the thought is your body will let you go there.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
When it's time for somebody to go there. So if
I'm doing like brainspotting or something with somebody.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And it feels like they're just like getting stuck and
it's not working, it's not that it's not working. Their
body is maybe protecting them and it's not time for
them to go there, Like our bodies will know, and
so rather than calling somebody like resistant, it's like, oh, they're.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Doing what they need to do. So I think in
the grand scheme way.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
To answer that is like that might be really annoying
to us and on the outside, where like, oh, they're
stuck in victim mindset, or they've been doing this far
far too long, or they're using this as an.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Excuse, but that might really be where they need to be.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
So I think that's it's hard to answer that question
because we can't really know if somebody is using that
a little too much or if that's what their body
needs in order to protect them until it's safe and
okay for them to have a different type of day.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
I love that answer. M hm.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
So it depends, it depends.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
What does it depends mean?
Speaker 3 (06:21):
I'm just kidding, Well, that's nuanced.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Well, I was just thinking of, yeah, making them a
merch joke, well merch humor. Speaking of merch, I mean
it depends. I think is we gravitate towards that because
it is living in the gray is sort of how
we described it, because I know that earlier versions of
me have been a little more black and white, And
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I like living in the in the gray because I
get to look at something and assess, like because it depends,
and I get to take in all variables that are
at play and come up with a different conclusion other
than a blanket statement because of what either I was
conditioned or what I thought I believed, or what society
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tells us to believe.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
You know what I'm thinking right now. But our merch,
they're just conversation starters. So if you've just moved to
a new place, or you want to make friends somewhere
were our merch.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
It'll start a conversation because somebody's like, what does that
mean on the back of your shirt?
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Oh, let me tell you, and then like you might
end up at lunch with that person.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, it depends on say that too. We got an
email from another cat, So not you, not cryo cat,
but another cat. My boyfriend requested, Like even to him,
I say, therapy cat and cryocat and he is requested
just cat and then your tea cat, so she's cat
(07:49):
tea cat for therapy.
Speaker 3 (07:52):
I had a client that called me tk tk that's cute.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Yeah, okay, maybe I'll shorten it with him.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
But tea cat, it's just us.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
It's not like we would ever say it to y'all.
It's when we're having a conversation. It gets confusing. Why
doesn't he like therapist cat. It's too it's too much
to say therapy cat, like just he's.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Like, it's just not worth another syllable.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
They're rep they're repea, Oh.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I'm sorry, I'm not worth three syllables. Well I've are
you shortened? You can? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
You got me tea cat. I just don't think I
have the day need back half the day need.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
It sounds a little like teacup or like you could
just call me Katherine.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I've been thinking about that lately.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
I love the name Katherine. I do. I mean, I
know it's your name, but I love your name for you,
but like, I've never called you Katherine.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And what's weird is I went by Katherine until I
was like twenty five, isn't.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
It pre fully developed?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
And you were ready and I was like, Oh, this
is who I really am.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
It was when I started teaching cycling classes they started
calling me Cat there, and then when I would just
meet people, it just kind of took off.
Speaker 3 (09:04):
So you can call me Katherine. I might bring it back.
Katherine van Buren sounds legit, Catherine van Buren.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
Salivated for sure. So you want me to practice? Can
I just start calling you Catherine?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Yeah? Does it feel weird?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Catherine.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
We got a text or an email from another Cat, Okay,
but I don't know if she's born Katherine or Catalina,
Katrina Quatria or she just Cat. Yeah. Hey, girls, I
love getting laughs with you twice a week. On the
November thirteenth, the Rule of Seven episode, at the twenty
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six minute mark, Amy is talking about being hot and
sweaty in the middle of the night. She went to
bed with her pjs with long bottoms, but got hot
and ended up with just her top and underwear. What
this needs to be discussed? Because I was taught that
I need to air things out at night from my mom,
and I never underwear with pjs. Who is right? Also,
(10:04):
Amy get used to the heat at night. I only
buy PJS with long sleeves and shorts for the winter.
It's just that season of life. So I guess we
can take from this that this cat is potentially in
perimenopause or menopause. Thanks, and have the day you need
to have. I love that she's signed it that way,
(10:24):
so fitting, especially since we got that email from Emily. Okay, well,
when it comes to who's right, y'all are right. I
also have heard air it out. But I just like underwear.
I don't know. I have a hard time day. I
try it out at times.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
And then what do you love about underwear? I don't
know if.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
I just do. I need to be better at it,
but I've done it. I've heard this exact thing. I
think it is healthy for sleep time to not have
it shut off blocked with underwear.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah. And also it's more comfortable. I think you'll get
used to it.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah. I needed to get to give it, give it
another go.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
Also, speaking of the pajamas, that made me think of
my mom because we used to always get Christmas pajamas
every year growing up. She would buy the girls matching
and the boys matching, and they're like flannel. Right, it's Christmas.
All of a sudden, she's started buying us like shorts,
like boxer shorts, and like T shirts. Growing up, she
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would buy the girls matching and the boys matching, and
they're like flannel.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Right, it's Christmas.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
All of a sudden, she started buying us like shorts,
like boxer shorts, and like T shirts.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
And I think it's because she needed.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
She started getting getting hot, so I.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Guess we Then I guess we had a matcher because
I'm like, mom, it's winter one, am my.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
Thanks Cat for this information.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Yeah. According to the Internet, it can be healthier to
not wear underwear to bed, as it promotes better airflow,
reduces moisture build up, and can help prevent infections like
bacterial and yeast infections. Going without underwear can also help
regulate body temperature and increase comfort, leading to better sleep. However,
it's a personal choice, and it depends. It says here,
(12:21):
it does, it does say it happends. It depends on
your comfort, hygiene, habits, and the fabric of any sleep
where you choose. And that also makes me think of
fabric of underwear, like I've heard the best fabric for underwear,
there's a specific kind.
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Is it not cotton?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
I gotta goozle it again, so a little inside baseball.
I don't know what was on last week's Couch Talks.
I did have to tell Houston to take a part
off because I did tell a story about my underwear
that I did not think needed to be in there.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Because Cat's a professional.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
I was like, I don't think that I should have.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
I think I overshared, So I don't know if you
put in there that like this, I don't think is
too much information. I hate wearing underwear and so I'm
definitely not wearing it at night.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
So I'm team, don't wear it.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
My thought was always I think I've always heard it's
better for you.
Speaker 3 (13:14):
But I'm just thinking purely comfort.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
It's just so constricting that I want you to experience
the freedom.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Just try it out.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
I've tried. I'm telling you I have tried it, and
it's feel like I've never tried. I just need to
give it more. I need to just get used to it.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
And to confirm, the best fabric for underwear for health
is one hundred percent cotton due to its breathability, moisture
absorption and hypoallergenic properties which help maintain a healthy pH
balance to prevent infections. For high activity wear. Well, blah
blah blah, we're not talking about that. We're talking about sleep.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
I have a question.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
I'm just saying, you need moisture wicking things if you're
working out, okay, because that's where cotton's not good.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
Uh, you don't have to answer this. I'm gonna ask it.
Do you wear underwear when you work out? Yes, with leggings, yes, okay, okay,
and that's probably normal to me. That's so uncomfortable. They
should make leggings with built in underwear. But then like,
is it even underwear? Is it just your leggings?
Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, good question, is it? I don't know. Oh, we
have like to are now like probably ten male listeners.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
There was some information I think I left it out
of the dock about men in underwear and sleeping. I
think it said that a lot of men don't like
wearing underwear to bed because they wear like compression underwear.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
You a lot of men wear.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
Like boxers, boxer briefs, compression underwear like buy your shorts.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
Okay, I'm not thinking compression. It's like really it's just
those like under arm or underwear. That's like, that's what
I'm thinking of. Yeah, Like, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (15:01):
I mean, I don't really know what most men wear it,
and I'm not going to spill Patrick's personal information, but like,
I don't think I know a lot of guys that
just wear like boxers as underwear, right.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Yeah, some do. My boyfriend will wear both. He alternates. Oh,
it's asier whether men should wear underwear to bed as
a personal choice, but many experts suggest sleeping without it
for better airflow and temperature regulation, which can reduce the
risk of bacterial growth and potentially improve sperm quality.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
Oh no way, let's go with a sperm quis very breathable.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
Loose fit underwear is a good compromise if you prefer
to wear something for comfort or hygiene. So there you go.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
You just put, like a newscaster, your voice on.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, because I feel like I need to be serious
when I'm delivering this.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Hard handing information. The more you know, speaking of men.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
We have another email from We'll keep it anonymous because
I don't know if she just wanted to share this
with me, and I thought it was really nice of
her to share her perspective because sometimes I don't don't
know how listeners are receiving something, and then I like
the opportunity to maybe further expand on my views. Are
you trying not to say defend, because yeah, I don't
get defensive anymore except for I do all the time. Okay,
(16:15):
so this email is from we'll call it. Yeah, she's anonymous,
but it's not because she has to be or bad.
We just decided right yeah, to not say her name
just in case. Hi, I'm behind on podcasts and just
wanted to comment on the episode of the listener comment
that discussed the breast cancer and her feeling cringe. I
think I understood what she was saying, at least from
my view, and I wanted to share. It has bothered
(16:37):
me for some time that there seems to be a
lot of men bashing. I notice it more on the
Bobby Bones episodes, and it really hurts my heart as
a mom of two boys, a wife, and a daughter.
It bothers me that Amy seems so anti men. I
try to think of it from the point that maybe
she doesn't realize she's doing it, but she seems to
always make excuses for women and just down's men. Quite often,
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they are amazing men, and they are supposed to be
different than women. We both have our strengths and weaknesses,
and that should be celebrated. I want my boys to
hear the great things men do, not that they're all
a bunch of lazy, thoughtless, selfish people. That is often
how it comes across I Honestly, I am not sure Amy
(17:22):
realizes how often she is saying negative things about men.
I am hoping this just sheds a little light. I'm
not sending this to be rude or hateful. It is
simply from a woman who is surrounded by wonderful, albeit
flagged men, and her heart hurts a little each time
it seems Amy is constantly negative about them. I hope
you understand my heart and what is behind the message.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Keep up the good work.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I enjoy hearing therapy and thoughts on things happy Friday,
which thank you for this note. Really, if I am
doing that, I definitely don't know that I am presenting
men as lazy, thoughtless, selfish people. That's not how I
would describe.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
That's how I feel.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
That is not how I feel. However, I could be
coming across that way on certain topics now the Bobby
Bone Show, I've been doing that for twenty years. I'm
predominantly the female voice amongst men. I might be having
a conversation with them, so I don't know if I'm
talking about an action of their specifically at any given moment, yeah,
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or how I feel about them. And that is being like,
it's generalizing all men, and maybe I am like, I
want to know more about this and own it because
I definitely I'm a boy mom as well. I'm raising
a young man and I am dating an amazing man
that has two boys, and I have a role in
their lives. Now, I don't hate men at all. I
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think men are amazing. I think the cringe thing back
to the breast cancer episode in case others didn't hear
that episode, that was about something very specific about men
dominating research for a lot of history. Yeah, that's known fact.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
I'm not.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
Bashing men when I say that.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Oh, you're not bashing men at all. You're saying we
have inconclusive information on women.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Yeah, I think.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
You know, we'veven posted something on Instagram the other day.
Cat's been collecting these funny memes of her time and
then putting up these carousels on the Feeling Things podcast,
and they're really funny. Pull that one up I made, lol,
And yes it's exaggerated, but sometimes exaggeration helps prove a
point of how wildly behind we are in including women
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in clinical trials and studies. So that is where I
was coming from on that, And I am defending myself
a little bit because I know in that episode I
wasn't trying to bash men, and I was more that's
more of a place as a woman. My hope would
be as all women, we should be a little worked
up about.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
That and fight for our own healthcare.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
Yeah, the meme says, so much of women's health stuff
is like, yeah, we know this because we conducted one
study sixty years ago on a single rat and the
rat was male.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
See that's so funny to me.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
That's so funny to me. I'm in some organizations I
work with, or vitamins and supplements I buy, I have
specifically bought from women owned companies that have conducted their
own research on women. Yeah, like they've taken their money
and then done separate research because I am a woman.
Speaker 1 (20:31):
Yeah, could I have a story or a little bit
of a antidote to showcase I'm feeling defensive.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
No, I'm not feeling defensive. I just want to know
and I do know your hearts.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
By the way, if you are listening to this or
anybody else listening, I totally read I know your heart,
and this is awesome. I do love this information. I
don't mind reflecting on how I've come across and I
have hours and hours and hours and hours of content
from the Bobby Bone Show, so there's no way for
me to eat even know times where maybe I have
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come across this way. And I'm admitting that if you
have felt that way and you've heard it and it
sounds like you're a loyal listener, you are not the
only one that feels this way. So I'm thankful for
this information. So that way, if I ever have a
thought to say, I can either preface it with something
or I can be specific to what I'm talking about,
and it's not so that it's not a generalization. Yeah,
because I do love men. I'm dating a fantastic one.
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I co parent with a fantastic one. I loved my
dad dearly, like I have a brother, like I I'm
not anti men. I love men and I celebrate that
we are different and we have different roles. Thank goodness. Yeah,
my boyfriend is the ying to my yang.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Well that's what I was going to say, is the
other day, you'll remember this. I called you, but I
was so upset because I was like, my husband did
something that I got upset about, and instead of getting
on the bandwagon.
Speaker 3 (21:54):
I don't know that I was like on a bandwagon.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
I think I was just like, oh, and instead of
getting on that train and like comserating with me, you said, well,
you know what you said, he's kind of similar to
some other men that I know, and this part of
him that's frustrating actually comes from this other part that
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you really love and is really great about him. So
I think just to highlight two things. One, you are
able to like obviously see the good and you're not like, yeah,
well that's a man.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
They suck, you know.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
And then also you helped pull me out of that
where you're able to, you know, shine the light through
the trees for me.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah, I think that two where I was coming from
that because I've had to talk to myself about that
of like, certain things I expect from my boyfriend and
we can't expect all the things from everybody in our life. Yeah,
some stuff we're going to get from our other friendships,
some stuff we're going to get from our family, like
my sister may fill certain roles. Some stuff we may
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get from our partner. But we can't expect one single
person in our life just because there are significant other yeah,
to fill every single role. And so that was and
and and and I think in that moment, there was
that part. And then I know you were protecting my boyfriend,
and that that's who I know. Our boy My boyfriend
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and your husband are very similar in their demeanor and
how they are. And I think the part that we
love so much about them is what's bringing out that
other thing that is frustrating. And it is and I'm
validating your feelings, like it's totally frustrating, but it's like
would you can't have one without the other, And I
know I wouldn't trade it either.
Speaker 1 (23:36):
So that was very You were a help. You helped
me see that and remember like, oh, this is what
really is important to you. So that was yeah, thank
you for that.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Well, you're welcome, and thank you for this email, and
thank you for sending your thoughts in a really kind,
constructive way, like your feedback from listeners is so great,
and when we get it delivered in a way that's, hey,
You're allowed to expressed how how you feel about what
I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
And you can tell that she's not trying to be
like you suck and you're stupid, like.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, And the I think that was our point about
the whole cringe message that we played is that wasn't
even an email. That was a listener that called and
was just like, hey, I was listening to this episode
and Amy's just so cringe right now. Bye.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Well I can't.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
I don't. I don't. I want to grow and evolve
and some stuff I may need to and some stuff
maybe all asss and I'll be like, no, I know
what I mean by it, and I don't. You know.
I hope others aren't taking it the other way, but.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
You never know, you never know.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Well, thank you, thank you Emily, thank you other Cat,
and thank you Anonymous for all of them.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Were you scared that I say her name?
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You just spent like five minutes talking about how you're
going to keep it anonymous and then you just saturn eight.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
No, Emily was our have the day you need to have.
Thanks Emily listener so, and I'm pretty I'm like ninety
nine percent sure this is not another Emily, even though
we had another cat. Katherine. Thank you, Catherine van Buren.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
I wish you had amy was short for like Amelia
or something, so I could say your full name.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Now.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Well, have I told you, Elizabeth? My dad wanted to
name me Candace and call me Candy for short, so
we could do that.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
We call you Candace, all right, Well, thank you, Candice.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
No call me Elizabeth because that's my mental love, the
name I do so much. I do too.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
Okay, well, thank you Elizabeth.
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Thank you Catherine. We hope y'all have the day you
need to have. Bye bye,