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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's bring in Don Mahallack, ABC News law enforcement contributor
and retired senior Secret Service agent, and Don, Happy New Year,
welcome in. And yeah, how did they get this so wrong?
There's a lot of kind of it seems like breakdown
with regard to this.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Happy New Year mark.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
And yeah, the New Orleans incident points to a lot
of flaws in the security plan. Their exterior perimeter wasn't hardened,
which in the same and age, you should always have
a hardened security perimeter. They had police officers posted. It
looks like a lot of police officers posted, but they
in some cases they didn't seem to have any direction
about exactly what they wanted them to do. So the
(00:37):
security planning once again was flood in many fashions. But
it looks like now they've tightened it up a bit.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, the barriers, it looks like they're those really large
what steel cylinders that kind of retract down and kind
of come up. Is that what I think that? And
then they were talking about those are there, but they
were inoperative during this time. Inoperable they were not able
to be used. There's some sort of repair going on
(01:05):
or something. It is crazy to me when you think
about the timing with regard to those being something wrong
with them, some sort of you know, malfunction going on
with them, that this guy was able to infiltrate that
I didn't kind of take advantage of this.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, well, the steel ballads are a common security act press.
You see them around a white Asse if you go
visit DC, you see them in other locations. But you know,
and I guess they did have them around Bourbon Street
but were inoperable. And what they failed to do, though
is take into account what they could use instead of
the ballers to make a hardened security perimeter. One police
(01:41):
car clearly wasn't enough. They needed to do more there.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Which you see another places.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
For instance, the same night at Times Square, you probably
couldn't get anywhere near Times Square because of the way
NYPD would have hardened the security perimeter and all the
ingress points into Times Square. And the one thing you
always want to remember with an event is access control
is key. You want to control the access to flow
in and out of the event because that's your number
one way of keepingn the events safe and keeping the
(02:08):
people safe.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, and look, if they're not even thinking, don if
they're not even thinking, Oh, somebody's not going to come
through here, plowing through the crowd. Clearly, those I would
feel like need to be in place because of well,
the incident that happened in front of the Trump Hotel
in Las Vegas, where you don't want vehicles park. They're
packed full of explosives and so on. In those heavily
(02:32):
populated areas where there was a bunch of tourists and
so on, you would think that all of that would
be in place. But for whatever, they're not coming up
with any excuses other than they were repairing them or
they weren't completely you know, there was something wrong with
them right.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Now, twenty four years almost post September eleventh. The one
thing September eleventh Commission pointed out was there was a
failure of imagination to envision a terrorist plot that would
take planes and use them as missiles. And but we
see it and over again with these failures in event security,
where there's this failure of imagination to imagine that somebody
(03:08):
would take advantage of a security flaw, which in this
case there is in multiple reports last year this year
and incidents and vehicles being used to terrorize the individuals
at events and at location, So that should be a
number one issue that gets thought about and planned for
in any event security plan. And why that wasn't the
(03:29):
case in New Orleans, I'm not sure a New Orleans
police are going to have to answer that.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Right for sure, Sugar Bowl is going on now, it's
at the Caesar Super Dumb. Of course, we're a little
over a month away from the Super Bowl actually happening.
Turning right around and being in that same area. People
talking about, you know, right after an incident like this,
probably one of the safest places on plant on the
planet because they're going to be extra vigilant and extra
(03:57):
fill in all the blanks with regard to that. Do
you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, I mean we see it all the time. The
second chance at something, there's.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Always an overwhelming force.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Presence typically, and I'm sure we'll see that at the
Sugar Ball right now. I'm sure everybody that is involved
with events security will be on game and on point.
Then it'll bring all the resources there because they want
to make sure that another incident happens. It's just said
that that same level of planning wasn't in place beforehand,
which potentially could have mitigated this incident from happening. And
(04:31):
the other issue is this investigation is going to be
interesting because it sounds like the individual was on a
pathway to violence with his family situation, with his bankruptcies,
So there are a lot of precursors there.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That put him on a pathway to violence.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
So I'm still wondering if suicide wasn't his main goal
and the iceis wasn't a convenient excuse or was it combined?
And that's all stuff that will come out of the investigation.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Right, Yeah, they're doing all of that now and it'll
probably go on for weeks, it's not months. Don Mahallak
ABC News law enforcement contributor, retired senior Secret Service agent, Don,
thank you very much for joining. I appreciate you man again, Happy.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
New Year, Thanks Marking New York.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Thanks brother.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I think they're putting way too much work into telling
us this guy in New Orleans worked alone.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I'm sorry, I'm not I'm not buying it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
They keep pointing that out, which kind of to your point,
where you go, he who doth protest?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I mean that's kind of absolutely almost like kind of thing,
where you go, Why do you keep pointing Uh, we
think he worked alone.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
You think you you're right.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
That has been said over and over from just the
beginning of watching the coverage on this.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
We think he worked alone.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
We think he worked alone. And now they're like, we're
sure he worked I think there's I think I read
we're sure he worked alone. Or they're saying there's no
reason to believe that there was anybody with him on
something like this. What does it even matter? I mean, yeah,
it matters if there was somebody else with him, But
what he did, what he perpetrated, I feel like, what's
(06:01):
the big deal if he was the lone wolf? I mean,
it doesn't it doesn't feel to me like, man, it
took a bunch of people to orchestrate this.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
In my mind, you know, and let's you know, the
electric vehicle thing too, Let's think about this. Silent it
approaches the crowd, nobody hears it coming.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Extreme acceleration in the electrical vehicle with the brushless motors,
they move very fast. You've been in a couple, you
know how quickly they can accelerate. And I think the
Vegas thing that was a stab at both Donald Trump
and Elon Musk quite frankly, they used one of musk
vehicles in front of a Trump building. I think there's
(06:40):
politics involved there. I'm not so sure they're not related.
Both electric vehicles, both through this service, neither one of
us have heard of before, but they worked alone. I'm
just I'm sorry, I'm not buying all this well yet.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I also I heard that they both were served as
similar base. Zach attack. Did you happen to see any
of what I'm talking about with regard to the purp
that was at Trump the Trump Casino or the Trump
Hotel in Las Vegas? And then this, uh, this New
Orleans truck attack that they I thought that I read
(07:18):
something like that that they were they're starting to connect
and they served at the same base something as far
as the military.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I saw that, but I don't know if any of
it's confirmed yet.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, so it's it's hard.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I don't want to say yes, you know what I
mean without it being completely had.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So you hadn't read that truck or heard that.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
As I've seen that now. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I thought I.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Read something about that earlier, and it was right when
we were getting ready to go on, so I didn't
I didn't have time, but I think now, look if
those if those dots connect, it's too much of a coincidence,
wouldn't you think they're using the same app? And and look,
there are you know, hundreds of thousands of people who
use that the what is it called the truro app?
(08:03):
The car sharing app, so there is It's not like
you know, oh they both runted from hurts.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Oh boy.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Another story out of Virginia. I'm trying to see if
there's any any connections here at all. FBI sees most
homemade explosives in agency history.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
This is in Virginia that they've confiscated or yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
It's odd because it's a KTLA out of Los Angeles
is reporting it. But it's a state of Virginia, Coldwealth
of Virginia story. And I'm trying to get the guy's
name here because so many of these things. He is,
you know, a white American by appearance, But I have
no idea what the name is because I can't. They
don't show you the whole story. You have to watch
a video, which I can't do while.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I'm on the air.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Right, But Tesla truck guys Matthew Allen lives Burger, Lives
Burger yeah, And you know I was even saying too,
and you just nailed it, Chuck. The guy that was
involved in the Tesla cyber truck bomb outside of Trump Hotel,
that absolutely is a swing at Donald Trump. And here's
(09:06):
why I say this. I don't even know if anybody
besides him right now, I think they're only reporting the
guy that Lives Burger that Zach just told us his name.
He's the only one that died in that.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Then.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Also, I saw elon post that it didn't even do
anything to the front glass or windows of the Trump
Tower there, the hotel there in Vegas. Now, that absolutely
if that guy's trying to kill people, if that Lives Burger,
I'm going to tell you where that is located. The
(09:39):
Trump Hotel is on the west side of the Strip.
It's at the north ended Strip. It's right across from
a wind It's by a place called the Fashion Showplace Mall.
It's just north of that, and it's on the west side,
like I said, of the street and where that's located.
Where he parked that and it exploded. If he was
trying to take people out, all he would have had
to have done is he drive down to Las Vegas
(10:01):
and Flamingo. I know this place like I've lived there
because I go constantly. If he went to that place
and he did that toward the evening, and I'm talking
Las Vegas and Flamingo, that is ground zero, that is
where there are so many people in that area. He
could have done so much carnage there. Now, getting driving
from there on to like say the sidewalk, that's a
(10:24):
whole different that's a whole different putt. That is a
tough putt from Las Vegas Boulevard because there are a
lot of barriers and so up there. But the explosion
part of that had an intersection. He could have done
a lot of damage where he parked. It is definitely
a shot at Trump. And then I think also because
it was what he did it in is also a
(10:45):
shot at Elon.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
And he picked a bad vehicle if he wanted to
do mass damage putting it in the back end of
that that tesla. The explosion for the most part went
straight up because of the construction of the tesla, and
with the thing closed, the exposure went up as opposed
to scattering, you know, shrapnel throughout a crowd or something
like that. That doesn't sound like somebody wants to do
(11:09):
damage to people on the street.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right, so that where it's parked solely had to be
the shot at Trump. And then also I did see
that the last because where did they say he voted.
You don't have to register with one party or the
other wherever he voted last, but the last time he
did register. And this is the guy, the New Orleans
(11:32):
truck attack guy. He was a Democrat last, which has
been conveniently not reported by a lot of the mainstream media.
And also it took a long time to find out
that was an ISIS flag that was attached to the
back of the vehicle, to the truck, to the Ford truck.
And also getting a picture of him took forever as.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Well, well you know exactly why.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yeah, because a minute you see that picture of the guy,
you're going to have your immediate thoughts. And then what's
his name? I can't recall his name, but it's a
good Irish Catholic name.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
But yeah, because.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
They know immediately what we're going to start thinking, ICE's flag,
that appearance, that name, And I don't know they are
they trying to protect is something or are they trying
to control our reaction? What's the goal, because I just
feel like things aren't being reported honestly.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
You know Senator Kennedy too. I don't know if you
saw any of his when he was speaking about of
course he's Louisiana senat and he more or less started saying,
we're not going to get everything that is truthful about
this situation from our government. I mean, he's coming right
out and saying it right now. It's just like I
(12:45):
was telling my wife, I go, you know, these buffoons
who are in office, and that's all it is, by definition,
in office.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
They're not doing a damn thing.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You saw Biden. He looks like he just woke up
that some press or he was just doing, and he
had that look on his face like he's all pissed off.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what you call it.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It just like, move out of the way.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Can we just get him sworn in now? Can we
just get Trump to take over? Please? This is so
silly what's happening.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
It's just stupid.
Let's bring in Don Mahallack, ABC News law enforcement contributor
and retired senior Secret Service agent, and Don, Happy New Year,
welcome in. And yeah, how did they get this so wrong?
There's a lot of kind of it seems like breakdown
with regard to this.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Happy New Year mark.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
And yeah, the New Orleans incident points to a lot
of flaws in the security plan. Their exterior perimeter wasn't hardened,
which in the same and age, you should always have
a hardened security perimeter. They had police officers posted. It
looks like a lot of police officers posted, but they
in some cases they didn't seem to have any direction
about exactly what they wanted them to do. So the
(00:37):
security planning once again was flood in many fashions. But
it looks like now they've tightened it up a bit.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yeah, the barriers, it looks like they're those really large
what steel cylinders that kind of retract down and kind
of come up. Is that what I think that? And
then they were talking about those are there, but they
were inoperative during this time. Inoperable they were not able
to be used. There's some sort of repair going on
(01:05):
or something. It is crazy to me when you think
about the timing with regard to those being something wrong
with them, some sort of you know, malfunction going on
with them, that this guy was able to infiltrate that
I didn't kind of take advantage of this.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, well, the steel ballads are a common security act press.
You see them around a white Asse if you go
visit DC, you see them in other locations. But you know,
and I guess they did have them around Bourbon Street
but were inoperable. And what they failed to do, though
is take into account what they could use instead of
the ballers to make a hardened security perimeter. One police
(01:41):
car clearly wasn't enough. They needed to do more there.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Which you see another places.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
For instance, the same night at Times Square, you probably
couldn't get anywhere near Times Square because of the way
NYPD would have hardened the security perimeter and all the
ingress points into Times Square. And the one thing you
always want to remember with an event is access control
is key. You want to control the access to flow
in and out of the event because that's your number
one way of keepingn the events safe and keeping the
(02:08):
people safe.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, and look, if they're not even thinking, don if
they're not even thinking, Oh, somebody's not going to come
through here, plowing through the crowd. Clearly, those I would
feel like need to be in place because of well,
the incident that happened in front of the Trump Hotel
in Las Vegas, where you don't want vehicles park. They're
packed full of explosives and so on. In those heavily
(02:32):
populated areas where there was a bunch of tourists and
so on, you would think that all of that would
be in place. But for whatever, they're not coming up
with any excuses other than they were repairing them or
they weren't completely you know, there was something wrong with
them right.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Now, twenty four years almost post September eleventh. The one
thing September eleventh Commission pointed out was there was a
failure of imagination to envision a terrorist plot that would
take planes and use them as missiles. And but we
see it and over again with these failures in event security,
where there's this failure of imagination to imagine that somebody
(03:08):
would take advantage of a security flaw, which in this
case there is in multiple reports last year this year
and incidents and vehicles being used to terrorize the individuals
at events and at location, So that should be a
number one issue that gets thought about and planned for
in any event security plan. And why that wasn't the
(03:29):
case in New Orleans, I'm not sure a New Orleans
police are going to have to answer that.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
Right for sure, Sugar Bowl is going on now, it's
at the Caesar Super Dumb. Of course, we're a little
over a month away from the Super Bowl actually happening.
Turning right around and being in that same area. People
talking about, you know, right after an incident like this,
probably one of the safest places on plant on the
planet because they're going to be extra vigilant and extra
(03:57):
fill in all the blanks with regard to that. Do
you agree with that?
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yeah, I mean we see it all the time. The
second chance at something, there's.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Always an overwhelming force.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Presence typically, and I'm sure we'll see that at the
Sugar Ball right now. I'm sure everybody that is involved
with events security will be on game and on point.
Then it'll bring all the resources there because they want
to make sure that another incident happens. It's just said
that that same level of planning wasn't in place beforehand,
which potentially could have mitigated this incident from happening. And
(04:31):
the other issue is this investigation is going to be
interesting because it sounds like the individual was on a
pathway to violence with his family situation, with his bankruptcies,
So there are a lot of precursors there.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
That put him on a pathway to violence.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
So I'm still wondering if suicide wasn't his main goal
and the iceis wasn't a convenient excuse or was it combined?
And that's all stuff that will come out of the investigation.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
Right, Yeah, they're doing all of that now and it'll
probably go on for weeks, it's not months. Don Mahallak
ABC News law enforcement contributor, retired senior Secret Service agent, Don,
thank you very much for joining. I appreciate you man again, Happy.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
New Year, Thanks Marking New York.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
Thanks brother.
Speaker 5 (05:11):
I think they're putting way too much work into telling
us this guy in New Orleans worked alone.
Speaker 4 (05:16):
I'm sorry, I'm not I'm not buying it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
They keep pointing that out, which kind of to your point,
where you go, he who doth protest?
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Right?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I mean that's kind of absolutely almost like kind of thing,
where you go, Why do you keep pointing Uh, we
think he worked alone.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
You think you you're right.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
That has been said over and over from just the
beginning of watching the coverage on this.
Speaker 4 (05:37):
We think he worked alone.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
We think he worked alone. And now they're like, we're
sure he worked I think there's I think I read
we're sure he worked alone. Or they're saying there's no
reason to believe that there was anybody with him on
something like this. What does it even matter? I mean, yeah,
it matters if there was somebody else with him, But
what he did, what he perpetrated, I feel like, what's
(06:01):
the big deal if he was the lone wolf? I mean,
it doesn't it doesn't feel to me like, man, it
took a bunch of people to orchestrate this.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
In my mind, you know, and let's you know, the
electric vehicle thing too, Let's think about this. Silent it
approaches the crowd, nobody hears it coming.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (06:20):
Extreme acceleration in the electrical vehicle with the brushless motors,
they move very fast. You've been in a couple, you
know how quickly they can accelerate. And I think the
Vegas thing that was a stab at both Donald Trump
and Elon Musk quite frankly, they used one of musk
vehicles in front of a Trump building. I think there's
(06:40):
politics involved there. I'm not so sure they're not related.
Both electric vehicles, both through this service, neither one of
us have heard of before, but they worked alone. I'm
just I'm sorry, I'm not buying all this well yet.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I also I heard that they both were served as
similar base. Zach attack. Did you happen to see any
of what I'm talking about with regard to the purp
that was at Trump the Trump Casino or the Trump
Hotel in Las Vegas? And then this, uh, this New
Orleans truck attack that they I thought that I read
(07:18):
something like that that they were they're starting to connect
and they served at the same base something as far
as the military.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
I saw that, but I don't know if any of
it's confirmed yet.
Speaker 3 (07:29):
Yeah, so it's it's hard.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
I don't want to say yes, you know what I
mean without it being completely had.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
So you hadn't read that truck or heard that.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
As I've seen that now. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
I thought I.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Read something about that earlier, and it was right when
we were getting ready to go on, so I didn't
I didn't have time, but I think now, look if
those if those dots connect, it's too much of a coincidence,
wouldn't you think they're using the same app? And and look,
there are you know, hundreds of thousands of people who
use that the what is it called the truro app?
(08:03):
The car sharing app, so there is It's not like
you know, oh they both runted from hurts.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
Oh boy.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
Another story out of Virginia. I'm trying to see if
there's any any connections here at all. FBI sees most
homemade explosives in agency history.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
This is in Virginia that they've confiscated or yeah, and.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
It's odd because it's a KTLA out of Los Angeles
is reporting it. But it's a state of Virginia, Coldwealth
of Virginia story. And I'm trying to get the guy's
name here because so many of these things. He is,
you know, a white American by appearance, But I have
no idea what the name is because I can't. They
don't show you the whole story. You have to watch
a video, which I can't do while.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I'm on the air.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Right, But Tesla truck guys Matthew Allen lives Burger, Lives
Burger yeah, And you know I was even saying too,
and you just nailed it, Chuck. The guy that was
involved in the Tesla cyber truck bomb outside of Trump Hotel,
that absolutely is a swing at Donald Trump. And here's
(09:06):
why I say this. I don't even know if anybody
besides him right now, I think they're only reporting the
guy that Lives Burger that Zach just told us his name.
He's the only one that died in that.
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Then.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Also, I saw elon post that it didn't even do
anything to the front glass or windows of the Trump
Tower there, the hotel there in Vegas. Now, that absolutely
if that guy's trying to kill people, if that Lives Burger,
I'm going to tell you where that is located. The
(09:39):
Trump Hotel is on the west side of the Strip.
It's at the north ended Strip. It's right across from
a wind It's by a place called the Fashion Showplace Mall.
It's just north of that, and it's on the west side,
like I said, of the street and where that's located.
Where he parked that and it exploded. If he was
trying to take people out, all he would have had
to have done is he drive down to Las Vegas
(10:01):
and Flamingo. I know this place like I've lived there
because I go constantly. If he went to that place
and he did that toward the evening, and I'm talking
Las Vegas and Flamingo, that is ground zero, that is
where there are so many people in that area. He
could have done so much carnage there. Now, getting driving
from there on to like say the sidewalk, that's a
(10:24):
whole different that's a whole different putt. That is a
tough putt from Las Vegas Boulevard because there are a
lot of barriers and so up there. But the explosion
part of that had an intersection. He could have done
a lot of damage where he parked. It is definitely
a shot at Trump. And then I think also because
it was what he did it in is also a
(10:45):
shot at Elon.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
And he picked a bad vehicle if he wanted to
do mass damage putting it in the back end of
that that tesla. The explosion for the most part went
straight up because of the construction of the tesla, and
with the thing closed, the exposure went up as opposed
to scattering, you know, shrapnel throughout a crowd or something
like that. That doesn't sound like somebody wants to do
(11:09):
damage to people on the street.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
Right, so that where it's parked solely had to be
the shot at Trump. And then also I did see
that the last because where did they say he voted.
You don't have to register with one party or the
other wherever he voted last, but the last time he
did register. And this is the guy, the New Orleans
(11:32):
truck attack guy. He was a Democrat last, which has
been conveniently not reported by a lot of the mainstream media.
And also it took a long time to find out
that was an ISIS flag that was attached to the
back of the vehicle, to the truck, to the Ford truck.
And also getting a picture of him took forever as.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Well, well you know exactly why.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
Yeah, because a minute you see that picture of the guy,
you're going to have your immediate thoughts. And then what's
his name? I can't recall his name, but it's a
good Irish Catholic name.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
But yeah, because.
Speaker 5 (12:07):
They know immediately what we're going to start thinking, ICE's flag,
that appearance, that name, And I don't know they are
they trying to protect is something or are they trying
to control our reaction? What's the goal, because I just
feel like things aren't being reported honestly.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
You know Senator Kennedy too. I don't know if you
saw any of his when he was speaking about of
course he's Louisiana senat and he more or less started saying,
we're not going to get everything that is truthful about
this situation from our government. I mean, he's coming right
out and saying it right now. It's just like I
(12:45):
was telling my wife, I go, you know, these buffoons
who are in office, and that's all it is, by definition,
in office.
Speaker 4 (12:52):
They're not doing a damn thing.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You saw Biden. He looks like he just woke up
that some press or he was just doing, and he
had that look on his face like he's all pissed off.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know what you call it.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
It just like, move out of the way.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Now.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Can we just get him sworn in now? Can we
just get Trump to take over? Please? This is so
silly what's happening.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
It's just stupid.
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