August 29, 2024 • 35 mins
Dan is away tailgating for the season opener of Colorado Buffs football, while Jon Caldara fills in and wonders if this year's team will live up to the massive Deion Sanders hype.
Also, Dave Williams refuses to step down as chair of the Colorado GOP - how will this ordeal end?
Also, Dave Williams refuses to step down as chair of the Colorado GOP - how will this ordeal end?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Mister the Capitalist, no sta key in for the man.
I'm John Caldera. Is he in court? Is he in deposition?
The bar, the deposition? Yeah. By the way, both of
those are names of strip clubs. He's at a tailgate,
he's Oh, is he going to see you? That's right? Oh? Who?
(00:40):
All right? I don't follow your sports ball, Okay, I
know people love it. Who is my alma mater playing?
I was gonna say, you're alma mater.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
The Buffs are playing North Dakota State, who I believe
are the reigning FCS champions.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
What's your prediction? Oh I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I don't know, because not to go to states like
the next level down, So they're not in like the
big leagues, so to speak, of college football, like Colorado is.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And this is a home opener, it is. The line
is ten and a half, ten and a half favoring home.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, Colorado House.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
He gives ten and a half.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, so that means they're the favorites. Okay, all right,
that that helps. I thought the whole Sanders thing was
really bizarre. I mean, I get it, he won the
first couple of games, and it looked like a brand
new team and a brand new era. And I was
just shocked how much national press it got. Oh yeah,
(01:38):
I mean like unnecessarily crazy. The guy's got an Amazon
reality show and then they're talking about it here he's
and then it fizzled to nothing. He was on sixty
minutes and that's right. I forgot about sixty minutes. The
big news.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So far, he has basically banned a couple of reporters.
I think one of them was from the Denver Post,
a columnist, and the other was was it CBS, Yeah,
it was CBS. But he was upset with something nationally
and he took it out on the local TV person.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That often not always comes back to bite you. Yeah,
you know, it's because, particularly in politics and sports, which
are basically the same thing at different stakes, when the
media turns on you, it's bad. Think about what happened
(02:35):
to Biden after his debate. The media said, well, we
need to get rid of him because we were partisan players.
Time to dump on him and they went crazy. So yeah,
I usually think that's a bad idea, but I'm not
the coach. What if you were, Oh my god, it'd
be great. We wouldn't we wouldn't win, but we wouldn't care.
(03:03):
So I remember it was a year after this is
how I am. Okay. I remember when I went to
see you. The Buffs still had those powder blue uniforms.
Oh wow, the uniforms that just screamed hit me in
(03:23):
the face. They were just they were Yeah. And then
we got the black uniforms. I remember the McCartney years.
Those were pretty exciting. And then, eh, I'm always I
find it insulting how important football is to hire it
that a good football program brings up a school because
(03:48):
it gets them attention and oddly more donations. Except now
those donations often go to the sports team, and football
players lived like kings while everybody else lives like surfs
on the college campus and il name image lateness. Yeah,
and now even extra Now I was thinking about rich
(04:09):
guys who give money to their alma mater, usually to
build a building. You know, at SEU, they're now buildings
just for the football team, right know, they have their
own food, their own places. It's it's pretty posh for
you know, an eighteen year old to get that type
of treatment is not servicing the purpose of higher ed,
(04:32):
which is to teach you how to survive in the
world and learn different academic disciplines.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You would have gotten along very well with my mom, John.
She was echoing every single word you just said, and
she had a personal experience that soured her on the
whole subject.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
A brief story.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Duffy Doherty was the legendary head coach at Michigan State
where she attended. Bubba Smith you might remember from the
Police Academy movies, star player from Michigan State. He had
a brother, no joke, his name was Tody, who had
gotten into so he was swear to God, you look
this up. He got into some trouble with the law
and they needed to get bailed out of jail. And
(05:14):
my mom's roommates were pressuring her because they knew that
my grandfather he had some money and fifty bucks, which
was kind of a lot back then. She had her
grandfather wire her fifty dollars to bail Tody out of jail.
And these these roommates of hers promised to pay her back,
never paid her back, so she went marching right in
(05:34):
This was my mom Duffy Doherty's office, demanded to talk
to him, sat with him, explained what happened, and she
said the look on his face was like he couldn't
believe that she had the audacity to just march in
there like that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And I don't think she ever got her fifty dollars
back though, Well, because fifty bucks to the athletic department
is at budget buster right, Exactly what do you mean
if if I don't know your mother, I dated your.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Oh my god, Well, I will tell you. One thing
that's cool about the collegiate sports is that they do
trickle down. Because I was the recipient of a D
one scholarship that was pretty much paid for by football
and basketball at a university that I went to.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
She was on the diving team. By the way, were
you yes, diving team? That's not a euphemism or anything, John,
It's only four twelve. You can't talk like that on
radio talking about I don't understand sports. That's all.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yes, swimming, swimming and time for Kelly, But I didn't actually,
you know, do laps in the pool. I did the
you know, creative thing where I spun and twisted and.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Again getting back to is this a euphemism for Kelly?
I think you should quit while you're behind. I'm guess
trying to understand. I know, I'm just trying to understand.
You're learning, John, Yeah, I'm getting there. Yeah. I just
think the whole Dion Sanders thing is just so overblown
(07:09):
and overdone. And I it's kind of like the world
of YouTubers and influencers. I hate that one. Yeah, I
do too, but give me another one. Yeah. The the
constant self promotion is tacky and tasteless. I mean it's just,
(07:31):
you know, so Sanders is a pr machine for Sanders
and see you as benefiting from that attention. But it's
just it gets tiring. I And if you're gotta promote
yourself that much, win a few games now.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
They did.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
They won four last year, which was better than the
year before, and you know, who know that'll be better
this year. I'm certain. The question is does it live
up to the hype. There's a lot of hype, John,
I tell you, let me throw that out. Does it
live up to the hype and You're gonna have to
talk down to me because I don't follow college sports
(08:11):
all that much because I'm not allowed on the campus
because of those restraining orders. But uh oh, just you know,
let me know what you think. Three or three seven, one, three, eight,
two five five seven to one three talk. I know,
people get really excited. And actually, I'll be honest, I
actually watched several games last year, and I never watched
(08:33):
Buff games. I never, but the the excitement made it
a bit more fun and I and I tuned in.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I think people got really excited last year, John at
that that opening win at TCU, which was you know,
a perennial contender.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Huge, huge upset. Yeah it was, and.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It got people's attention and got people excited. And then
to your point, you know, they had won only one
game that previous season, and from that point forward it
was kind of rocky, and they finished four and eight.
So we'll see you go from one win to four wins,
maybe the seven wins this year, Maybe we'll see.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I could, I could see six wins. I could I
could do that one of the tidy bowls, And if
I understand it correctly, maybe you could help me with
this one the college system is actually changing its ranking
so that there's much more of a playoff system.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
That's correct, right, Twelve teams make it now instead of
just four.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yep, yeah, and that's you know, that's what drove me
nuts is that there was there was no playoffs and
there's a whole bunch of sports writers get to decide
who the winner is. It's like, yeah, you know, it's like, well,
PBS and NPR can decide the winner of the next
presidential election. No, No, they have to battle it out.
That's the idea of sport. So how do they get
(09:51):
to the final twelve.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It'll be a ranking system much like before with computerized rankings.
There's going to be a selection committee and there are
certain parameters. There's like they know these mega conferences, as
you know, Colorado no longer part of now the defunct
PAC twelve, so they've been absorbed into their former conference,
the Big twelve, which used to be the Big Eight,
and the ACC absorbed a couple of PAC twelve teams,
(10:16):
the Big Ten absorbed a couple of PAC twelve teams.
The SEC is still building, so there's just these big
mega conferences and those champions will all automatically get in.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh so, whoevery win's that that division is in, they're in.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And then there'll be several other at large bids for
teams that did not win their conference titles, but a
climb in the rankings to those top twelve spots.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And then those are the twelve teams that are into
the playoff. That makes some sense. I like that, all right?
Is a hype worth It is a hype. Is a
hype justified. And again you're gonna have to talk to
me like a little kid like you always do. Three
or three, seven to one, three eight two five five
(11:01):
seven one to three. Talk in for mister Kaplis. I'm
John Caldera. Keep it here, six thirty K and now
back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. This is a
fifty on Sanders the music.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's the one song I remember off the top of
my head that had the word hype in it. There John,
it's public Enemy and it's from when Dion was in
his prime punintended as a college football player at Florida State.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
God go tell me that you are a fan early
ninety I still believe this is this is more hype
than reality, and I want to be proven wrong on this.
I hope they have a stellar season, get into the
top twelve, go through the playoffs and win. I I
just don't know. I just don't know. It is fun,
(11:47):
all right, the whole Deon Sanders thing is fun. But
I do feel hmmm, I feel sympathy for all the
players who all the players who who don't who are
not on the team anymore. Does that make sense that
(12:09):
he cleaned house, that's right.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, Well you either fit in or you don't.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And he was not shy about it, nor should he
have been.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I mean, there were a lot of changes that needed
to be made, obviously, a program that went one and
eleven the year before, and he told him straight up,
not all of you are going to be here, and
a lot of them, to your point, John did defect elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
And that.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
How do you how do you tell a kid, hey,
you got a scholarship here, you're going to go to
see you you're a football player. But now this hot
shot has come and he's bringing all of his players in. Yep,
and you're out. Tough business. Yeah, it's it's a it's
a tough business. Yeah, it's a tough business. That's that's
(12:54):
why I got out of it. That's why you got
a Yeah. You know, when when they offered me the job,
I was like, no, one, I don't like your college.
I went to your college. It's a communist factory. And
two the pages wasn't good enough. Oh wow, yeah, no,
(13:15):
that that did not happen, all right, if you have
a thought three or three seven, one, three, eight, two
five five. What I really did want to talk about
is I need your help. I'm trying to find I'm
trying to find the right analogy. The right analogy is
(13:37):
on this incredible, this incredible. I'm sorry, I just got
to stop thinking and talking at the same time. This
incredible dysfunction at the Colorado GOP. So, if you don't know,
the GOP General Center Committee met last weekend and overwhelmingly voted,
(14:06):
overwhelmingly voted that Dave Williams is no longer the chair. Instead,
instead Eli Bremer was elected as chairman. Bretta Horne vice chair.
She's a great lady, lover a lot, and now the
(14:27):
guy who lost his seat isn't giving it up. Now,
this requires certain real problems. I'm trying to think how
to put this. There are real world problems because Dave
Williams will not give up his throne. They can't get
(14:53):
into the office because he's got the keys. They can't
check the checking balance because he's got the password and
he's the signer on the account. He can't They can't
look at the books because Dave Williams is holding the books. Now,
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I understand, in America we pride ourselves on a smooth
transition of power. That's why traditionally, up until Trump, at
the inauguration, you see the former president right there standing
(15:37):
or sitting behind the new president as he's sworn in.
That's important. That's a symbol of a smooth transfer of power,
the visual blessing of ye, the guy won, even if
you beat me. I mean, I always think about what
it must have been like for Nixon to be standing
(15:59):
there as vice president when JFK has sworn in, knowing
full well the hanky panky that happened in Texas and
that there was a much better case for a stolen
election than than any place. Yet he stood there. In fact,
he was President of the Senate when they certified the
votes for his opponent, while he knew that the election
(16:25):
was rigged, or at least the election in Texas was
played with in any event. So now you've got a
duly elected new chairman, vice chair, treasurer, secretary of the
Colorado GOP, and the old GOP goes. I don't recognize
(16:47):
that you people don't have the power or the authority
to do that. Well, yeah they do, and you just
like it. So now the guys who who are supposed
to be running the party have to go to court
(17:10):
to get Dave Williams to letterally hand over the keys
to the office. So I'm trying to think, what is
what is the right analogy here? Here's what I mean.
The party is decimated for all intents and purposes. There
(17:31):
is no party, all right. There's no money, there's no coordination,
there's no there's no party there there the apparatus isn't there.
It's like it's like two medieval lords having a huge
battle over a parcel of land that's the size of
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a postage stamp. It's it's like it's like kids playing
King of the Hill and they think they're on top
of Mount Mount Everest, when in fact they're just on
a little pile of dirt the size of a pitcher's mound.
(18:16):
These are toddlers fighting over a broken toy. Give me
a better analogy and help me understand the situation. Three
h three seven one three eight two five five. John
Caldera in for Kapalis. Yeah, on six thirty K how
you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast? Is that
an editorial comment on the guy who won't give up
(18:39):
his throne? On the gop? Oh? John, great minds think alike?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You mentioned the child's game King of the Hill and
the Hill, and I mentioned Fool of the Hill here.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Do kids know what King of the Hill is anymore?
I don't think so. I think that's a bygone era.
You and I enjoyed it was. It was like the
basic of games, and it was great for boys, especially
to get out their energy. For those who don't know.
Somewhere in the neighborhood they'd be making a making a
(19:11):
new house or something, or there'd be a pile of dirt,
and as a kid, any pile of dirt looks, you know,
three times larger than it really is. And King of
the Hill, you're you're up. One guy's at the top
of the hill, and guys try to run up and
push him down, and then become the king of the hill.
And then they stand up and then other guys try
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to rush them and knock them down and you go
falling down or or you throw them down, and then
you start making allies or let's do it together, and
then you know, it was just it was pure energy.
You know, it's what are the rules? Stand on top
of the hill for as long as you can. That's
the rule. That's it. Yeah, that's now go play. And
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that's kind of what's what's going on in the GOP.
But there's an a there's an added there's an added
element that the hill that they're fighting over is an
ant hill. I mean, there's there's no there there. So
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the party is completely decimated. It has no money. You know,
we got two months left to election day even less,
you know, we've got a month and a half until
ballots go out. They've collected almost no money. It's hard
to find out because they keep the they keep the
(20:37):
books so quiet. So who who's in charge? And why
would you want to be in charge? Oh my god,
I mean, God, bless Eli Bremer. I I know him
but not well, and thank god he's willing to take
on this mess. But you're fighting. You're fighting over no
(21:02):
nothing of any value. It's like they're having this big
land war over over an empty parking lot. You know,
it's ridiculous. So I'm trying to find the right analogy here,
which it's ego driven and they're fighting over something that's
not worth it much. It's like a board of directors
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of some corporation having a huge power struggle and they
all think that the corporation they're on is IBM or Apple,
when in fact the company owns a broken hot dog cart.
You know. That's that's the situation here. If you have
a better thought, let me know. So the Williams GOP
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is still sending out emails from the GOP even though
they've been removed. They've been removed. The problem is they
still have the passwords to get into the database and
to get on mailchim or whatever service they use to
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send out emails. It's it's how to put it, it's
really enjoyable trying to trying to think of some of
these some of these things. So here's here's a GOP
thing that they put out. Political hackers recently put together
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two illegitimate political meetings in the name of the Colorado GOP.
They claim those meetings were legal, but they had to
use the opinion of a discredited former consultant currently under
indictment for bilking clients. All right, that doesn't explain why
they're wrong. Last week, seventy seven people attended an illegitimate meeting. No,
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it's called the Central Committee meeting, wearing one hundred illegitimate
proxies for others. Now, that's call it the proxies. That's it.
And something like eighty or eighty five percent of them
voted Dave Williams out of office. But this is the
response from the guy who still owns the email system
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who won't give up his office. Those seventy seven attendees
then improperly changed party rules to imply they had a majority,
and then tried to impose their will on the entire
state Republican Party, behaving differently than lowly property squatters. They
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pretended they had ownership of your party. These frauds should
be called the Masquerade Party. This is This is coming
from what is supposedly the Colorado State GOP, whose job
it is to get Republicans elected this ball but instead
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they decided to split the Republican Party and call people
rhinos and kick them out and choose winners and losers.
Keep in mind, the state party, for the first time
in its history, endorsed candidates in the primary. That's not
(24:31):
their job. That's not their job. Let let me say
that again. For the first time in its history, the
Colorado Republican Party endorsed candidates in their primary, even though
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the job of the party is to run fair, clean primaries.
That is, they're supposed to be the umpire, not one
of the coaches. Fourteen of the eighteen candidates that they
(25:18):
endorsed lost, So you can imagine those fourteen candidates are
not that thrilled that the now displaced party chairmen won't
won't support what they do, won't support what they do.
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So the party is not helping these guys win the races.
They're not doing their job. Instead, they're spending their little
time and energy on fighting the guys who just took
over the party instead of helping them. Does this operation
sound familiar to you? Let me see here. So what
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we'd have is somebody in a leader ship position who
lost an election but doesn't want to give up power,
so he's putting out communications that the election was illegitimate,
and instead of working to get Republicans elected, is working
(26:32):
to have infighting amongst Republicans. Got it almost sounds it
almost sounds familiar. It almost sounds like somebody tried to
do that once before. Yeah, they pretend that they're Trump.
Dave Williams, I hate to inform you you're not Trump.
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At least Trump had followers give over the keys to
the office save a little dignity. My suspicion is Dave
Williams is angling for a job in the Trump administration.
(27:20):
Maybe this behavior helps him. I can't see how, but
maybe it does. In the meantime, Republicans continue to lose
offices in Colorado. Three or three seven, one, three, eight, two, five,
five seven to one three talk. I'm John Caldera and
for the Big Man, keep it right here six thirty
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k how and now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
All right, I mean, it's make it clear. Ryan Schuling
is just a terrible human being. But he's really good
at choosing songs. That was perfect, just perfect. No, he's
not a terrible human being. He's awesome. Thompson twins, correct,
(28:04):
Thompson twins, And there were three of them. And they weren't.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Twins, correct, they none of them were related amongst each other.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Correct. Yeah. I actually bought that album in college. You
did see?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
That surprises me a little because you're not really into
the whole eighties thing.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I am not. I was. I was like, I gotta
try something else. I remember. I think I bought that
and the Talking Heads? Oh who album was that? And
I kind of enjoyed both Talking Heads much much more though. Yeah,
they're great. Yeah, so I expanded. I expanded nice, all right?
Three all three seven, one three eight two five five.
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Dave Williams refuses to accept the vote of the party's
Central Committee to remove him.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Does that sound familiar to you? It sure does to me.
Let's go to the phones, Let's go to Grand Lake.
Hey guy, welcome with John Caldera.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Hey John. When you just said sounds familiar, it took
me back to the Dan Mays tiasco.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I was, of course referring to Trump, but it does.
It does remind me. At least Dan Mays won the primary.
There's no question about that. He did. It's not like
Dan Mays. Dan Mays when he lost the election by
(29:26):
a gazillion points, he only got eleven percent of the vote.
Eleven percent of the vote.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Did that cradle get more votes than he did?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Oh By got three times as many. Yeah, Hickenlooper, Hicckenlooper
still got fifty one or fifty two percent. So you
couldn't argue that if Dan Mays wasn't there, Tom would
have won. But if he wasn't there, I think it
a lot would have solidified around Tom, and Tom would
have had a sizeable chance to become governor. And could
(29:57):
you imagine where we would be today with a governor
tang Corrado instead of a Governor Hickenlooper.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
A night and day.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yep. Yeah, but Dan Mays was It does remind me
of Dann Mays and that Dann Mays was a shyster
and was self serving with his campaign money. So there,
there's there's certainly that So we can go with that one.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
And I think Dave Williams still have the same.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
History.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
He'll disappear and we'll never hear from him again.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
M I hope you're right. Sometimes these guys just have
a tendency to pop back up when you least expect it. Hey,
thanks for the call, guy, I appreciate it. So much.
The number here is three h three seven one three
eight two five five. Oh let's wait wait wait wait,
wait here we go, Here we go Brad and Highland's ranch.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Hey Brad, welcome, Yes, sir, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I'm terrific.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Thanks well, I appreciate the opportunity to talk about Dave Williams.
You know, do you know what the meeting on the
thirty first is about that's coming up?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Nope. I am not a Republican any longer, so I
do not know. If I if I want to understand,
it goes something like this, The now deposed regime is
going to have a meeting and they're calling a what
they call let's put it this way, everybody in Congress
(31:28):
was voted out of office, but the old guys won't leave,
and they're saying, all right, Congress is going to meet
on Saturday or Sunday, and the new people don't recognize it.
Matter of fact, the new people, if I understand what happened,
the new folks have canceled the Central Committee meeting for this.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
See that just can't happen. Let me explain to you
where I'm coming from. The RNC parliament parliamentarian has already
ruled on this, and they said the only legitimate meeting
by the bylaws is the meeting on the thirty first.
That meeting taking place has everything to do with the
signatures that started.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
All of this.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
See Todd Walkins collected signatures and he did it incorrectly.
Then he posted those signatures in order to have a meeting.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
How did he do it correctly? By a judge, how
did you do it incorrectly?
Speaker 6 (32:18):
In order to collect signatures for a meeting, you need
twenty five percent of the of the central committee body
to demand a meeting for any and.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I believe they reached that threshold. So so a judge
rule that they reached that threshold. How did they not
reach that threshold?
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Didn't happen? A judge did not reach that decision. The
decision by the Irapo County District judge was basically saying
that it wasn't in his jurisdiction, and that's why he
released the meeting, and that's why he released the stay.
And that's all that was. That's a real simple ruling.
You can see it online.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
So exactly how did the guy how did the guy
fail to get twenty five percent? That's the discussion, that
is the discision. That's all tactic.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Good God, no, listen, it's real simple. The central body
gets to decide if those are legitimate signatures. That is
what the meeting on the thirty first is about. You
mean meeting, You mean David signatures are legitimate, then then
those people can vote Dave Williams honor off the island.
That is what the thirty first is all about. That
is why the r n C has not stepped up.
(33:25):
You've heard not a single word from them.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
You're getting you're getting sere getting excited. There's no need to.
I can tell that you're a Dave Williams fan and
you want to keep him in office whatever necessarily.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
I'm a rules guy and I and I believe me.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Try that again. Do you want Dave Williams to remain
in power for whatever the reason that satisfies you.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
I don't have where you up to the to the
Central Committee to decide whether.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
He's you So you believe that he has not been
removed from power?
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Correct, even even the even the the signatures that they
they had, there's a problem with those. And then whenever
they had the meeting, that meeting got canceled, they have
a secondary meeting, okay, And those people that had those
proxies didn't have the correct dates on those proxies. Make
those proxies that they had not legal.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Then you had people in the meeting that weren't part
of the Central Committee that were holding proxies and they
were counting the proxy vote and the person standing there.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So you calm down, take a breath. So basically, you
sound just like a Trump election denier. So did Trump
win the election? Did Trump win the election? Silence shouting
(34:50):
down the bag after this, keep it here with John
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Mister the Capitalist, no sta key in for the man.
I'm John Caldera. Is he in court? Is he in deposition?
The bar, the deposition? Yeah. By the way, both of
those are names of strip clubs. He's at a tailgate,
he's Oh, is he going to see you? That's right? Oh? Who?
(00:40):
All right? I don't follow your sports ball, Okay, I
know people love it. Who is my alma mater playing?
I was gonna say, you're alma mater.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
The Buffs are playing North Dakota State, who I believe
are the reigning FCS champions.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
What's your prediction? Oh I don't.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
I don't know, because not to go to states like
the next level down, So they're not in like the
big leagues, so to speak, of college football, like Colorado is.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
And this is a home opener, it is. The line
is ten and a half, ten and a half favoring home.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, Colorado House.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
He gives ten and a half.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, so that means they're the favorites. Okay, all right,
that that helps. I thought the whole Sanders thing was
really bizarre. I mean, I get it, he won the
first couple of games, and it looked like a brand
new team and a brand new era. And I was
just shocked how much national press it got. Oh yeah,
(01:38):
I mean like unnecessarily crazy. The guy's got an Amazon
reality show and then they're talking about it here he's
and then it fizzled to nothing. He was on sixty
minutes and that's right. I forgot about sixty minutes. The
big news.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
So far, he has basically banned a couple of reporters.
I think one of them was from the Denver Post,
a columnist, and the other was was it CBS, Yeah,
it was CBS. But he was upset with something nationally
and he took it out on the local TV person.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
That often not always comes back to bite you. Yeah,
you know, it's because, particularly in politics and sports, which
are basically the same thing at different stakes, when the
media turns on you, it's bad. Think about what happened
(02:35):
to Biden after his debate. The media said, well, we
need to get rid of him because we were partisan players.
Time to dump on him and they went crazy. So yeah,
I usually think that's a bad idea, but I'm not
the coach. What if you were, Oh my god, it'd
be great. We wouldn't we wouldn't win, but we wouldn't care.
(03:03):
So I remember it was a year after this is
how I am. Okay. I remember when I went to
see you. The Buffs still had those powder blue uniforms.
Oh wow, the uniforms that just screamed hit me in
(03:23):
the face. They were just they were Yeah. And then
we got the black uniforms. I remember the McCartney years.
Those were pretty exciting. And then, eh, I'm always I
find it insulting how important football is to hire it
that a good football program brings up a school because
(03:48):
it gets them attention and oddly more donations. Except now
those donations often go to the sports team, and football
players lived like kings while everybody else lives like surfs
on the college campus and il name image lateness. Yeah,
and now even extra Now I was thinking about rich
(04:09):
guys who give money to their alma mater, usually to
build a building. You know, at SEU, they're now buildings
just for the football team, right know, they have their
own food, their own places. It's it's pretty posh for
you know, an eighteen year old to get that type
of treatment is not servicing the purpose of higher ed,
(04:32):
which is to teach you how to survive in the
world and learn different academic disciplines.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
You would have gotten along very well with my mom, John.
She was echoing every single word you just said, and
she had a personal experience that soured her on the
whole subject.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
A brief story.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Duffy Doherty was the legendary head coach at Michigan State
where she attended. Bubba Smith you might remember from the
Police Academy movies, star player from Michigan State. He had
a brother, no joke, his name was Tody, who had
gotten into so he was swear to God, you look
this up. He got into some trouble with the law
and they needed to get bailed out of jail. And
(05:14):
my mom's roommates were pressuring her because they knew that
my grandfather he had some money and fifty bucks, which
was kind of a lot back then. She had her
grandfather wire her fifty dollars to bail Tody out of jail.
And these these roommates of hers promised to pay her back,
never paid her back, so she went marching right in
(05:34):
This was my mom Duffy Doherty's office, demanded to talk
to him, sat with him, explained what happened, and she
said the look on his face was like he couldn't
believe that she had the audacity to just march in
there like that.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
And I don't think she ever got her fifty dollars
back though, Well, because fifty bucks to the athletic department
is at budget buster right, Exactly what do you mean
if if I don't know your mother, I dated your.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Oh my god, Well, I will tell you. One thing
that's cool about the collegiate sports is that they do
trickle down. Because I was the recipient of a D
one scholarship that was pretty much paid for by football
and basketball at a university that I went to.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
She was on the diving team. By the way, were
you yes, diving team? That's not a euphemism or anything, John,
It's only four twelve. You can't talk like that on
radio talking about I don't understand sports. That's all.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yes, swimming, swimming and time for Kelly, But I didn't actually,
you know, do laps in the pool. I did the
you know, creative thing where I spun and twisted and.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Again getting back to is this a euphemism for Kelly?
I think you should quit while you're behind. I'm guess
trying to understand. I know, I'm just trying to understand.
You're learning, John, Yeah, I'm getting there. Yeah. I just
think the whole Dion Sanders thing is just so overblown
(07:09):
and overdone. And I it's kind of like the world
of YouTubers and influencers. I hate that one. Yeah, I
do too, but give me another one. Yeah. The the
constant self promotion is tacky and tasteless. I mean it's just,
(07:31):
you know, so Sanders is a pr machine for Sanders
and see you as benefiting from that attention. But it's
just it gets tiring. I And if you're gotta promote
yourself that much, win a few games now.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
They did.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
They won four last year, which was better than the
year before, and you know, who know that'll be better
this year. I'm certain. The question is does it live
up to the hype. There's a lot of hype, John,
I tell you, let me throw that out. Does it
live up to the hype and You're gonna have to
talk down to me because I don't follow college sports
(08:11):
all that much because I'm not allowed on the campus
because of those restraining orders. But uh oh, just you know,
let me know what you think. Three or three seven, one, three, eight,
two five five seven to one three talk. I know,
people get really excited. And actually, I'll be honest, I
actually watched several games last year, and I never watched
(08:33):
Buff games. I never, but the the excitement made it
a bit more fun and I and I tuned in.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
I think people got really excited last year, John at
that that opening win at TCU, which was you know,
a perennial contender.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Huge, huge upset. Yeah it was, and.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
It got people's attention and got people excited. And then
to your point, you know, they had won only one
game that previous season, and from that point forward it
was kind of rocky, and they finished four and eight.
So we'll see you go from one win to four wins,
maybe the seven wins this year, Maybe we'll see.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
I could, I could see six wins. I could I
could do that one of the tidy bowls, And if
I understand it correctly, maybe you could help me with
this one the college system is actually changing its ranking
so that there's much more of a playoff system.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
That's correct, right, Twelve teams make it now instead of
just four.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Yep, yeah, and that's you know, that's what drove me
nuts is that there was there was no playoffs and
there's a whole bunch of sports writers get to decide
who the winner is. It's like, yeah, you know, it's like, well,
PBS and NPR can decide the winner of the next
presidential election. No, No, they have to battle it out.
That's the idea of sport. So how do they get
(09:51):
to the final twelve.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
It'll be a ranking system much like before with computerized rankings.
There's going to be a selection committee and there are
certain parameters. There's like they know these mega conferences, as
you know, Colorado no longer part of now the defunct
PAC twelve, so they've been absorbed into their former conference,
the Big twelve, which used to be the Big Eight,
and the ACC absorbed a couple of PAC twelve teams,
(10:16):
the Big Ten absorbed a couple of PAC twelve teams.
The SEC is still building, so there's just these big
mega conferences and those champions will all automatically get in.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh so, whoevery win's that that division is in, they're in.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
And then there'll be several other at large bids for
teams that did not win their conference titles, but a
climb in the rankings to those top twelve spots.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
And then those are the twelve teams that are into
the playoff. That makes some sense. I like that, all right?
Is a hype worth It is a hype. Is a
hype justified. And again you're gonna have to talk to
me like a little kid like you always do. Three
or three, seven to one, three eight two five five
(11:01):
seven one to three. Talk in for mister Kaplis. I'm
John Caldera. Keep it here, six thirty K and now
back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. This is a
fifty on Sanders the music.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
That's the one song I remember off the top of
my head that had the word hype in it. There John,
it's public Enemy and it's from when Dion was in
his prime punintended as a college football player at Florida State.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
God go tell me that you are a fan early
ninety I still believe this is this is more hype
than reality, and I want to be proven wrong on this.
I hope they have a stellar season, get into the
top twelve, go through the playoffs and win. I I
just don't know. I just don't know. It is fun,
(11:47):
all right, the whole Deon Sanders thing is fun. But
I do feel hmmm, I feel sympathy for all the
players who all the players who who don't who are
not on the team anymore. Does that make sense that
(12:09):
he cleaned house, that's right.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Yeah, Well you either fit in or you don't.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
And he was not shy about it, nor should he
have been.
Speaker 3 (12:17):
I mean, there were a lot of changes that needed
to be made, obviously, a program that went one and
eleven the year before, and he told him straight up,
not all of you are going to be here, and
a lot of them, to your point, John did defect elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (12:28):
And that.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
How do you how do you tell a kid, hey,
you got a scholarship here, you're going to go to
see you you're a football player. But now this hot
shot has come and he's bringing all of his players in. Yep,
and you're out. Tough business. Yeah, it's it's a it's
a tough business. Yeah, it's a tough business. That's that's
(12:54):
why I got out of it. That's why you got
a Yeah. You know, when when they offered me the job,
I was like, no, one, I don't like your college.
I went to your college. It's a communist factory. And
two the pages wasn't good enough. Oh wow, yeah, no,
(13:15):
that that did not happen, all right, if you have
a thought three or three seven, one, three, eight, two
five five. What I really did want to talk about
is I need your help. I'm trying to find I'm
trying to find the right analogy. The right analogy is
(13:37):
on this incredible, this incredible. I'm sorry, I just got
to stop thinking and talking at the same time. This
incredible dysfunction at the Colorado GOP. So, if you don't know,
the GOP General Center Committee met last weekend and overwhelmingly voted,
(14:06):
overwhelmingly voted that Dave Williams is no longer the chair. Instead,
instead Eli Bremer was elected as chairman. Bretta Horne vice chair.
She's a great lady, lover a lot, and now the
(14:27):
guy who lost his seat isn't giving it up. Now,
this requires certain real problems. I'm trying to think how
to put this. There are real world problems because Dave
Williams will not give up his throne. They can't get
(14:53):
into the office because he's got the keys. They can't
check the checking balance because he's got the password and
he's the signer on the account. He can't They can't
look at the books because Dave Williams is holding the books. Now,
(15:16):
I understand, in America we pride ourselves on a smooth
transition of power. That's why traditionally, up until Trump, at
the inauguration, you see the former president right there standing
(15:37):
or sitting behind the new president as he's sworn in.
That's important. That's a symbol of a smooth transfer of power,
the visual blessing of ye, the guy won, even if
you beat me. I mean, I always think about what
it must have been like for Nixon to be standing
(15:59):
there as vice president when JFK has sworn in, knowing
full well the hanky panky that happened in Texas and
that there was a much better case for a stolen
election than than any place. Yet he stood there. In fact,
he was President of the Senate when they certified the
votes for his opponent, while he knew that the election
(16:25):
was rigged, or at least the election in Texas was
played with in any event. So now you've got a
duly elected new chairman, vice chair, treasurer, secretary of the
Colorado GOP, and the old GOP goes. I don't recognize
(16:47):
that you people don't have the power or the authority
to do that. Well, yeah they do, and you just
like it. So now the guys who who are supposed
to be running the party have to go to court
(17:10):
to get Dave Williams to letterally hand over the keys
to the office. So I'm trying to think, what is
what is the right analogy here? Here's what I mean.
The party is decimated for all intents and purposes. There
(17:31):
is no party, all right. There's no money, there's no coordination,
there's no there's no party there there the apparatus isn't there.
It's like it's like two medieval lords having a huge
battle over a parcel of land that's the size of
(17:55):
a postage stamp. It's it's like it's like kids playing
King of the Hill and they think they're on top
of Mount Mount Everest, when in fact they're just on
a little pile of dirt the size of a pitcher's mound.
(18:16):
These are toddlers fighting over a broken toy. Give me
a better analogy and help me understand the situation. Three
h three seven one three eight two five five. John
Caldera in for Kapalis. Yeah, on six thirty K how
you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast? Is that
an editorial comment on the guy who won't give up
(18:39):
his throne? On the gop? Oh? John, great minds think alike?
Speaker 3 (18:42):
You mentioned the child's game King of the Hill and
the Hill, and I mentioned Fool of the Hill here.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Do kids know what King of the Hill is anymore?
I don't think so. I think that's a bygone era.
You and I enjoyed it was. It was like the
basic of games, and it was great for boys, especially
to get out their energy. For those who don't know.
Somewhere in the neighborhood they'd be making a making a
(19:11):
new house or something, or there'd be a pile of dirt,
and as a kid, any pile of dirt looks, you know,
three times larger than it really is. And King of
the Hill, you're you're up. One guy's at the top
of the hill, and guys try to run up and
push him down, and then become the king of the hill.
And then they stand up and then other guys try
(19:32):
to rush them and knock them down and you go
falling down or or you throw them down, and then
you start making allies or let's do it together, and
then you know, it was just it was pure energy.
You know, it's what are the rules? Stand on top
of the hill for as long as you can. That's
the rule. That's it. Yeah, that's now go play. And
(19:56):
that's kind of what's what's going on in the GOP.
But there's an a there's an added there's an added
element that the hill that they're fighting over is an
ant hill. I mean, there's there's no there there. So
(20:16):
the party is completely decimated. It has no money. You know,
we got two months left to election day even less,
you know, we've got a month and a half until
ballots go out. They've collected almost no money. It's hard
to find out because they keep the they keep the
(20:37):
books so quiet. So who who's in charge? And why
would you want to be in charge? Oh my god,
I mean, God, bless Eli Bremer. I I know him
but not well, and thank god he's willing to take
on this mess. But you're fighting. You're fighting over no
(21:02):
nothing of any value. It's like they're having this big
land war over over an empty parking lot. You know,
it's ridiculous. So I'm trying to find the right analogy here,
which it's ego driven and they're fighting over something that's
not worth it much. It's like a board of directors
(21:24):
of some corporation having a huge power struggle and they
all think that the corporation they're on is IBM or Apple,
when in fact the company owns a broken hot dog cart.
You know. That's that's the situation here. If you have
a better thought, let me know. So the Williams GOP
(21:48):
is still sending out emails from the GOP even though
they've been removed. They've been removed. The problem is they
still have the passwords to get into the database and
to get on mailchim or whatever service they use to
(22:09):
send out emails. It's it's how to put it, it's
really enjoyable trying to trying to think of some of
these some of these things. So here's here's a GOP
thing that they put out. Political hackers recently put together
(22:32):
two illegitimate political meetings in the name of the Colorado GOP.
They claim those meetings were legal, but they had to
use the opinion of a discredited former consultant currently under
indictment for bilking clients. All right, that doesn't explain why
they're wrong. Last week, seventy seven people attended an illegitimate meeting. No,
(22:57):
it's called the Central Committee meeting, wearing one hundred illegitimate
proxies for others. Now, that's call it the proxies. That's it.
And something like eighty or eighty five percent of them
voted Dave Williams out of office. But this is the
response from the guy who still owns the email system
(23:22):
who won't give up his office. Those seventy seven attendees
then improperly changed party rules to imply they had a majority,
and then tried to impose their will on the entire
state Republican Party, behaving differently than lowly property squatters. They
(23:43):
pretended they had ownership of your party. These frauds should
be called the Masquerade Party. This is This is coming
from what is supposedly the Colorado State GOP, whose job
it is to get Republicans elected this ball but instead
(24:10):
they decided to split the Republican Party and call people
rhinos and kick them out and choose winners and losers.
Keep in mind, the state party, for the first time
in its history, endorsed candidates in the primary. That's not
(24:31):
their job. That's not their job. Let let me say
that again. For the first time in its history, the
Colorado Republican Party endorsed candidates in their primary, even though
(24:53):
the job of the party is to run fair, clean primaries.
That is, they're supposed to be the umpire, not one
of the coaches. Fourteen of the eighteen candidates that they
(25:18):
endorsed lost, So you can imagine those fourteen candidates are
not that thrilled that the now displaced party chairmen won't
won't support what they do, won't support what they do.
(25:45):
So the party is not helping these guys win the races.
They're not doing their job. Instead, they're spending their little
time and energy on fighting the guys who just took
over the party instead of helping them. Does this operation
sound familiar to you? Let me see here. So what
(26:08):
we'd have is somebody in a leader ship position who
lost an election but doesn't want to give up power,
so he's putting out communications that the election was illegitimate,
and instead of working to get Republicans elected, is working
(26:32):
to have infighting amongst Republicans. Got it almost sounds it
almost sounds familiar. It almost sounds like somebody tried to
do that once before. Yeah, they pretend that they're Trump.
Dave Williams, I hate to inform you you're not Trump.
(27:00):
At least Trump had followers give over the keys to
the office save a little dignity. My suspicion is Dave
Williams is angling for a job in the Trump administration.
(27:20):
Maybe this behavior helps him. I can't see how, but
maybe it does. In the meantime, Republicans continue to lose
offices in Colorado. Three or three seven, one, three, eight, two, five,
five seven to one three talk. I'm John Caldera and
for the Big Man, keep it right here six thirty
(27:40):
k how and now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
All right, I mean, it's make it clear. Ryan Schuling
is just a terrible human being. But he's really good
at choosing songs. That was perfect, just perfect. No, he's
not a terrible human being. He's awesome. Thompson twins, correct,
(28:04):
Thompson twins, And there were three of them. And they weren't.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Twins, correct, they none of them were related amongst each other.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
Correct. Yeah. I actually bought that album in college. You
did see?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
That surprises me a little because you're not really into
the whole eighties thing.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
I am not. I was. I was like, I gotta
try something else. I remember. I think I bought that
and the Talking Heads? Oh who album was that? And
I kind of enjoyed both Talking Heads much much more though. Yeah,
they're great. Yeah, so I expanded. I expanded nice, all right?
Three all three seven, one three eight two five five.
(28:41):
Dave Williams refuses to accept the vote of the party's
Central Committee to remove him.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Does that sound familiar to you? It sure does to me.
Let's go to the phones, Let's go to Grand Lake.
Hey guy, welcome with John Caldera.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
Hey John. When you just said sounds familiar, it took
me back to the Dan Mays tiasco.
Speaker 2 (29:06):
I was, of course referring to Trump, but it does.
It does remind me. At least Dan Mays won the primary.
There's no question about that. He did. It's not like
Dan Mays. Dan Mays when he lost the election by
(29:26):
a gazillion points, he only got eleven percent of the vote.
Eleven percent of the vote.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Did that cradle get more votes than he did?
Speaker 2 (29:35):
Oh By got three times as many. Yeah, Hickenlooper, Hicckenlooper
still got fifty one or fifty two percent. So you
couldn't argue that if Dan Mays wasn't there, Tom would
have won. But if he wasn't there, I think it
a lot would have solidified around Tom, and Tom would
have had a sizeable chance to become governor. And could
(29:57):
you imagine where we would be today with a governor
tang Corrado instead of a Governor Hickenlooper.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
A night and day.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yep. Yeah, but Dan Mays was It does remind me
of Dann Mays and that Dann Mays was a shyster
and was self serving with his campaign money. So there,
there's there's certainly that So we can go with that one.
Speaker 5 (30:23):
And I think Dave Williams still have the same.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
History.
Speaker 5 (30:29):
He'll disappear and we'll never hear from him again.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
M I hope you're right. Sometimes these guys just have
a tendency to pop back up when you least expect it. Hey,
thanks for the call, guy, I appreciate it. So much.
The number here is three h three seven one three
eight two five five. Oh let's wait wait wait wait,
wait here we go, Here we go Brad and Highland's ranch.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Hey Brad, welcome, Yes, sir, how are you doing today?
Speaker 2 (30:57):
I'm terrific.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Thanks well, I appreciate the opportunity to talk about Dave Williams.
You know, do you know what the meeting on the
thirty first is about that's coming up?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Nope. I am not a Republican any longer, so I
do not know. If I if I want to understand,
it goes something like this, The now deposed regime is
going to have a meeting and they're calling a what
they call let's put it this way, everybody in Congress
(31:28):
was voted out of office, but the old guys won't leave,
and they're saying, all right, Congress is going to meet
on Saturday or Sunday, and the new people don't recognize it.
Matter of fact, the new people, if I understand what happened,
the new folks have canceled the Central Committee meeting for this.
Speaker 6 (31:47):
See that just can't happen. Let me explain to you
where I'm coming from. The RNC parliament parliamentarian has already
ruled on this, and they said the only legitimate meeting
by the bylaws is the meeting on the thirty first.
That meeting taking place has everything to do with the
signatures that started.
Speaker 2 (32:05):
All of this.
Speaker 6 (32:06):
See Todd Walkins collected signatures and he did it incorrectly.
Then he posted those signatures in order to have a meeting.
Speaker 2 (32:14):
How did he do it correctly? By a judge, how
did you do it incorrectly?
Speaker 6 (32:18):
In order to collect signatures for a meeting, you need
twenty five percent of the of the central committee body
to demand a meeting for any and.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
I believe they reached that threshold. So so a judge
rule that they reached that threshold. How did they not
reach that threshold?
Speaker 6 (32:35):
Didn't happen? A judge did not reach that decision. The
decision by the Irapo County District judge was basically saying
that it wasn't in his jurisdiction, and that's why he
released the meeting, and that's why he released the stay.
And that's all that was. That's a real simple ruling.
You can see it online.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
So exactly how did the guy how did the guy
fail to get twenty five percent? That's the discussion, that
is the discision. That's all tactic.
Speaker 6 (33:04):
Good God, no, listen, it's real simple. The central body
gets to decide if those are legitimate signatures. That is
what the meeting on the thirty first is about. You
mean meeting, You mean David signatures are legitimate, then then
those people can vote Dave Williams honor off the island.
That is what the thirty first is all about. That
is why the r n C has not stepped up.
(33:25):
You've heard not a single word from them.
Speaker 2 (33:30):
You're getting you're getting sere getting excited. There's no need to.
I can tell that you're a Dave Williams fan and
you want to keep him in office whatever necessarily.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
I'm a rules guy and I and I believe me.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Try that again. Do you want Dave Williams to remain
in power for whatever the reason that satisfies you.
Speaker 6 (33:48):
I don't have where you up to the to the
Central Committee to decide whether.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
He's you So you believe that he has not been
removed from power?
Speaker 6 (33:56):
Correct, even even the even the the signatures that they
they had, there's a problem with those. And then whenever
they had the meeting, that meeting got canceled, they have
a secondary meeting, okay, And those people that had those
proxies didn't have the correct dates on those proxies. Make
those proxies that they had not legal.
Speaker 5 (34:15):
Okay.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
Then you had people in the meeting that weren't part
of the Central Committee that were holding proxies and they
were counting the proxy vote and the person standing there.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
So you calm down, take a breath. So basically, you
sound just like a Trump election denier. So did Trump
win the election? Did Trump win the election? Silence shouting
(34:50):
down the bag after this, keep it here with John
Caldera
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