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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Sadly and the jam In Morning Show with d J
four and It's sunt A Good Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Bustin's number one for hip hop jamming ninety four five.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hi everybody, good morning. We're doing the check in here.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're checking in on you, your life, what's happening, how
are you? It's Friday, it's opening day, the weather's nice.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Anything you want to talk about, will do it right here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Six one seven nine three one one nine four five
six one seven nine three one one nine four five.
I mentioned when we were talking to Nick Rocco that
Erica had sent me a message saying, Hey, we're gonna
be outside in Dedham today.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
We're in our pink Erica.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You have been out there on the front lines screaming
free Karen Reid for some time now.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Yeah, yeap, since April twenty twenty three. Baby.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Now you probably get heat from people like I know,
somebody has been like, why don't you not have a job?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Oh yeah, they drive by almost every day. Yeah, you know,
two or three people.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's it's unreal.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Giving us, you know, if it's stank faces, you know,
not like I leave here and go to work or
I pull you know, thirty something hours on the week,
and I have a very supportive husband at home, which
is fantastic. You know, I have a seventeen year old
daughter who's pretty self sufficient.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So at the end of the day, I utilize my
time and I make kind to do something that I'm
passionate about because I got off my ass because I
believe in something. And I go, oh, sorry, I can't
do that because I got off my butt and I
did something about it, you know what I mean. Some
people can't say that much, and that's okay. But at
the end of the day, you know, it is what
it is, and it's something I believe in. It's that
I'm going to stand by.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, I'm sure, I'm sure Karen probably appreciate. I'm sure
Karen appreciates. I know they've moved you guys a couple
of times. Now, Erica, can you where you are? Can
you physically see her and the team and Alan Jackson
never walking in?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she didn't hear us.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It's funny the other day when I should and did
the uh got the pickle chips that I actually had
walked down with her. I called sandwiches and stuff for
that way she'd you know, because they only had they
were only given like fifteen minutes to run out the door.
You know what kind of things. They don't have any
room in there, they have no way to sit, they
don't really they don't really kind of care for them
(02:16):
the way they would you know. The prosecution side, it's weird.
So that's where we step in and just try to
help out any way we can.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Wow, you guys are accommodating. You're making our lunch out
there too.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, we'll try to, you know, well, we know we try. Yeah,
Like I called the head down Denham House, they've been great.
They're a local piece of shop. That owner, George is fantastic.
He's great with us, you know, letting us in and out,
use the bathroom and stuff like that. A lot of
the local places have been fantastic, you know what I mean.
I get it. It's not easy to you know, hang
a sign or deal with something political and hang a
sign in your front window. But at least they're being
(02:47):
decent to us. That's all that matters, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, I mean, listen, innocent until proven guilty, you know,
you got you gotta.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Really hold but it should be absolutely absolutely yeah, so
I just wanted to give a shout out to Boots
on the Ground. These people are out here, you know, rain, snow, sleet, hill,
doing standouts in their own town every weekend. We have
like fifty weeks in a row we have standouts going
outside of Dadam Legacy plays. Can't impde all that. So
all right, you'll deserve a shout out.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You've been out there for a minute, and I mean
at least today you're catching a sixty degree day with
no precipitation.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, they got the stops on and everything.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Are you switching pink outfits every day? Do you have
a good luck pink outfit?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, yeah absolutely. We actually were going with the American
flag too. Now, so where we're wearing the red, white
and blue, a rock in the red, white and blue
and the pink.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
This is I love it all right, Erica, I mean
this is it could be a big day in there.
We're already up to ten jerors, we need twelve and yeah,
altmutly so.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yep, hold on one second, I just have somebody wants
to say something, Hi, this.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Is Dina Boots on the Ground and let it get
We want justice for Baler John o'keith.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Amen, all right, everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You guys are cutting it out, but a men praise Jesus, Erica,
thank you for the.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I do wonder though, like how do they make money?
How do they pay bills?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
She said she goes to work after and then and
a seventeen year old who's self sufficient. She she she
works thirty hours a week. She said education Listen.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I asked the question because there's no doubt in my
mind that people are listening to her being like, there's no.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Like that, there's no way this woman has a job.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
But that's her. I mean, yeah, major must every day.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Every day and think about that. They're thinking to themselves, Oh,
Karen probably didn't eat today. Let me grab her tuna fish.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Imagine she hates tuna to.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Do that out there. I'm a tuna fan. Kyle is
in Rockland. Hi, Kyle, listen. We're gearing up. We got
a fourth baby on the way. One to three four.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, yeah, I shout out to my wife. Kim's still
working like a job dude, holding it down.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
They move.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
They moved her due day up two weeks because the
baby's eight pounds already.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That's a big baby. When's the baby do?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah? The last baby was ten pounds, so you know.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
She's a chance.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
When is the baby do?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
April Lemons my birthday?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Wow? Really soon? Really soon?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Blessing blessing boy or girl?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
The girl?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Have we named her yet?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That's the secret girl? The deal.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
No, I know the deal.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I know the deal. I wasn't sure if you were
going to offer it up. I do know the deal,
and I'm proud of you for it. Well, Kyle, congratulations,
that's amazing. You know they say now the new flex
in life is to have more than two kids because
that shows that you got the money to do.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
So.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Kids are expensive, Hey, multicastic.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
You know I'm into HVAC and drive oil trucks during
the winter.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So wow, no.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Blue collar used the bills.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
All right, Kyle, congratulations on the babies. Call me back
after she's born. I can't wait to hear the name.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
All right, precur me.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Okay, Wow, everybody is.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Just you just out there banging like a pound kids today?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah? That's the baby's already eight pounds. That's wild.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That sounds very painful.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You know, Dacy was eight pounds, but who was an
eight pound bagh.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Tough six one seven nine three one one nine four
five six one seven nine three one one nine.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
For five were talking about anything you want.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Good morning, Hi, everybody, Good morning, it's Ashley in the
gym in morning show. Listen the free Karen readers are
out and about today four and said, Jess, you are fiery.
I always say, you know, there's two sides to this,
and uh we we. We had Jackie dougal on the
show a couple of weeks ago, because again, there is
(06:47):
two sides to this.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You're on the other side.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Absolutely. Here's the thing. Rest in peace to John o'keeth.
Mike done with this family, his niece and nephew who
lost then then lost their guardian, the mother and father
who lost their daughter, son in law and then son,
and then this woman who doesn't even look remorseful at all.
Here's what I think what happened was. First of all,
(07:11):
she was drinking and driving and hit him. I think
was it murdered, No, it was definitely a manslaughter. The
reason why she did not go in that house with
John O'Keefe when they were invited is because she realized
Higgins was there, the man that she just kissed and
was flirting with How would you feel and how would
you look? You will look like a thought if you
just walked into somebody's house and the man that you
(07:33):
just kissed and was texting two days prior is sitting
there and you're with your man, like, how do you look?
And you're choosing him of cheating.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, people that are listening, guys, thought, is that hoe
over there?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Continue?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Absolutely, and that's what she looks like. It's no, because
Higgins was and I don't think that anybody in that place.
First of all, no disrespect to Karen, but who were
you before this? You were nobody? You mean to tell
me the whole Boston Police Department is trying to frame you.
Medical examiners are trying to frame people. Are every you
(08:15):
are that important that that everybody wants to frame you?
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well I would.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I would disagree with you on that and say it's
not about her, it's about them protecting themselves if in
fact they did do it, it's nothing to do with her.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
But again, again, nobody in that house was big enough
to put their life on the jempany for one another.
Like he didn't even said like he wasn't close enough
to any other for them to be like, oh, if anything,
they're gonna protect them, and they were gonna stop anything
from happening. And then you're trying to blame it innocent
pup like come on now, dog, let's let's plays. And
(08:52):
the prosecution has the mole of the dogs and uproly
there's the defense attorneys who that's a whole nother story.
But they when I didn't want the moss and couldn't
find the dog the first trial, what a coincidence. I
am very sorry. I am sorry for whoever is a
firm believer of her, But to turn on the whole province,
on the whole, I'm sorry for Province Blick of that,
(09:14):
the whole Boston Police department. Come on now, that's it's
just so far fetched. It would have been made more
sense if she said like she said in her documentary,
when she told her defense attorneys that she was the
short maybe I did hurt and maybe he did hurt
his leg, maybe he couldn't get up. Why would you
say that to your defensive attorney, and then you're gonna
say when you go to trial, oh, it definitely wants
(09:36):
to meet. No, you even said it was a possibility.
The men's blood and here is in your tail light, honey,
like you did it but own up to it. What
do I think you premeditated ment to kill? Absolutely? I
think that you absolutely not. I think that you rushed
off the scene because you seen Higgins is dead. John
was holding the same exact glass that he was holding
the scene. Leaven the the bar that glass was broken. No,
(09:59):
they're not gonna do oh exactly where the body was
in the snow, They're not. There's just too much to
go against it. I think that she was drunk. I
don't think was a perfect thing. I think once she
realized that Higgins there, she had to leave. I think
she accidentally hit him, maybe didn't even realize.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It took off.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
That's why she woke up the knees at four thirty
in the morning. Oh call Jennifer called this and call
that one because she wanted close enough to any of
his friends, have any of the ombers, Yes, and she
wanted to see where he was. Not saying so sorry.
Everybody needs to focus on the.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Real issue, focusing panic dead hair. Nobody keeps I know, listen,
I do.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I've said that a million times I think John o'keef
gets lost in all of this, and I agree with
you on that.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Dude, can you.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Step away your You obviously are very passionate, and I
love that about you, But can you take a step
back and also see that there is a very real
possibility that she gets acquitted because of the way this
investigation was.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Botched by the Canton Police Department.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Putting bloody snow in red solo cups, there's butt dials,
there's all the things. Do you understand that there could
be enough reasonable and reasonable doubt that she does get acquitted.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
It breaks my heart every day to things that that
possibly could happen. To be honest with you, yeah, because,
like I said, do I don't think she should be
charged with murder. I think they were just going a
little too hard on that part because I don't think
she intentionally murdered him. I listen, I watched Julie.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Grant every morning. I watched Vinnie.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Every night, So like I am stuck on Court TV.
It is on all day every child and like I
don't both that's just the child and going on right
now with the doctor, Like I watch every all of them,
and I just think that going after her for murder
is a little far fetched, Like I don't think she
was like, oh I'm gonna kill John tonight, Like, absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
They had a.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Very toxic relationship. I still don't think she purposely killed him.
I think that it was a drunken accident. But I
think framing the boss, like saying the Boston PDS frame you,
I think that's I just think it's a little out there,
like I I personally don't think that is the case.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
She might have been a great person, and I still
think maybe she is a good person. But I think
that she's not not even shut his hair. For a
man that you supposing was with for the tunny years
and loved him, whether you did it or not, I
would be traumatizer now, and she doesn't seem And everybody agrees.
I know, I watched it. I watch it all that
(12:21):
day long. Everybody agrees that ways, But as a human being,
you have to acknowledge what his family has gone through
in the last few years. And she's not even acknowledging
that even to say, you know this one me, I
didn't do it. She's not even trying to.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Absolute all the things, but her crying or not. Crying
doesn't make her a killer. Me making fun of her
freedom pickle chips outside doesn't make her a murder. We just,
you know, we got to see the bigger picture here,
and that's why there's a retrial and obviously you'll you'll
be watching just like the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Thank you so much for the call.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Are you had to rush her off that we just
don't have the time, We just don't.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Want it was not about what she was talking about
the facts and not her tone made me makes me
want to go out and smoke a cigarette, like I
just got yelled at her.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Theory, Yeah, understand about that.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, why do I want to face it? Especially after
old boy don't the ball? Like, oh really, that's what
we're doing. In essence, why do I didn't want to
go see that confrontation.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
That's that's setting myself up. That was one that it was,
that's from These people are passionate. Whenever side you're on,
there's passion.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
There was yelling at me like my mom did. She
just didn't want it. She wanted to make her
Sadly and the jam In Morning Show with d J
four and It's sunt A Good Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Bustin's number one for hip hop jamming ninety four five.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hi everybody, good morning. We're doing the check in here.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're checking in on you, your life, what's happening, how
are you? It's Friday, it's opening day, the weather's nice.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Anything you want to talk about, will do it right here.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Six one seven nine three one one nine four five
six one seven nine three one one nine four five.
I mentioned when we were talking to Nick Rocco that
Erica had sent me a message saying, Hey, we're gonna
be outside in Dedham today.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
We're in our pink Erica.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
You have been out there on the front lines screaming
free Karen Reid for some time now.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Yeah, yeap, since April twenty twenty three. Baby.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Now you probably get heat from people like I know,
somebody has been like, why don't you not have a job?
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Oh yeah, they drive by almost every day. Yeah, you know,
two or three people.
Speaker 1 (01:03):
It's it's unreal.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
Giving us, you know, if it's stank faces, you know,
not like I leave here and go to work or
I pull you know, thirty something hours on the week,
and I have a very supportive husband at home, which
is fantastic. You know, I have a seventeen year old
daughter who's pretty self sufficient.
Speaker 5 (01:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So at the end of the day, I utilize my
time and I make kind to do something that I'm
passionate about because I got off my ass because I
believe in something. And I go, oh, sorry, I can't
do that because I got off my butt and I
did something about it, you know what I mean. Some
people can't say that much, and that's okay. But at
the end of the day, you know, it is what
it is, and it's something I believe in. It's that
I'm going to stand by.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Well, I'm sure, I'm sure Karen probably appreciate. I'm sure
Karen appreciates. I know they've moved you guys a couple
of times. Now, Erica, can you where you are? Can
you physically see her and the team and Alan Jackson
never walking in?
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (01:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, she didn't hear us.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
It's funny the other day when I should and did
the uh got the pickle chips that I actually had
walked down with her. I called sandwiches and stuff for
that way she'd you know, because they only had they
were only given like fifteen minutes to run out the door.
You know what kind of things. They don't have any
room in there, they have no way to sit, they
don't really they don't really kind of care for them
(02:16):
the way they would you know. The prosecution side, it's weird.
So that's where we step in and just try to
help out any way we can.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
Wow, you guys are accommodating. You're making our lunch out
there too.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Yeah, we'll try to, you know, well, we know we try. Yeah,
Like I called the head down Denham House, they've been great.
They're a local piece of shop. That owner, George is fantastic.
He's great with us, you know, letting us in and out,
use the bathroom and stuff like that. A lot of
the local places have been fantastic, you know what I mean.
I get it. It's not easy to you know, hang
a sign or deal with something political and hang a
sign in your front window. But at least they're being
(02:47):
decent to us. That's all that matters, you know.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Yeah, I mean, listen, innocent until proven guilty, you know,
you got you gotta.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
Really hold but it should be absolutely absolutely yeah, so
I just wanted to give a shout out to Boots
on the Ground. These people are out here, you know, rain, snow, sleet, hill,
doing standouts in their own town every weekend. We have
like fifty weeks in a row we have standouts going
outside of Dadam Legacy plays. Can't impde all that. So
all right, you'll deserve a shout out.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
You've been out there for a minute, and I mean
at least today you're catching a sixty degree day with
no precipitation.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
Yeah, they got the stops on and everything.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Are you switching pink outfits every day? Do you have
a good luck pink outfit?
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
Yeah, yeah absolutely. We actually were going with the American
flag too. Now, so where we're wearing the red, white
and blue, a rock in the red, white and blue
and the pink.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
This is I love it all right, Erica, I mean
this is it could be a big day in there.
We're already up to ten jerors, we need twelve and yeah,
altmutly so.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Yep, hold on one second, I just have somebody wants
to say something, Hi, this.
Speaker 5 (03:46):
Is Dina Boots on the Ground and let it get
We want justice for Baler John o'keith.
Speaker 4 (03:51):
Amen, all right, everybody.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
You guys are cutting it out, but a men praise Jesus, Erica,
thank you for the.
Speaker 1 (03:58):
I do wonder though, like how do they make money?
How do they pay bills?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
She said she goes to work after and then and
a seventeen year old who's self sufficient. She she she
works thirty hours a week. She said education Listen.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
I asked the question because there's no doubt in my
mind that people are listening to her being like, there's no.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Like that, there's no way this woman has a job.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
But that's her. I mean, yeah, major must every day.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Every day and think about that. They're thinking to themselves, Oh,
Karen probably didn't eat today. Let me grab her tuna fish.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Imagine she hates tuna to.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Do that out there. I'm a tuna fan. Kyle is
in Rockland. Hi, Kyle, listen. We're gearing up. We got
a fourth baby on the way. One to three four.
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, yeah, I shout out to my wife. Kim's still
working like a job dude, holding it down.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
They move.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
They moved her due day up two weeks because the
baby's eight pounds already.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
That's a big baby. When's the baby do?
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Yeah? The last baby was ten pounds, so you know.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
She's a chance.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
When is the baby do?
Speaker 5 (05:12):
April Lemons my birthday?
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Wow? Really soon? Really soon?
Speaker 5 (05:17):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Yep?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Blessing blessing boy or girl?
Speaker 4 (05:21):
The girl?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Have we named her yet?
Speaker 5 (05:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
That's the secret girl? The deal.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
No, I know the deal.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I know the deal. I wasn't sure if you were
going to offer it up. I do know the deal,
and I'm proud of you for it. Well, Kyle, congratulations,
that's amazing. You know they say now the new flex
in life is to have more than two kids because
that shows that you got the money to do.
Speaker 5 (05:40):
So.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Kids are expensive, Hey, multicastic.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
You know I'm into HVAC and drive oil trucks during
the winter.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
So wow, no.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Blue collar used the bills.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
All right, Kyle, congratulations on the babies. Call me back
after she's born. I can't wait to hear the name.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
All right, precur me.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Okay, Wow, everybody is.
Speaker 1 (06:01):
Just you just out there banging like a pound kids today?
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Yeah? That's the baby's already eight pounds. That's wild.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
That sounds very painful.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
You know, Dacy was eight pounds, but who was an
eight pound bagh.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Tough six one seven nine three one one nine four
five six one seven nine three one one nine.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
For five were talking about anything you want.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
Good morning, Hi, everybody, Good morning, it's Ashley in the
gym in morning show. Listen the free Karen readers are
out and about today four and said, Jess, you are fiery.
I always say, you know, there's two sides to this,
and uh we we. We had Jackie dougal on the
show a couple of weeks ago, because again, there is
(06:47):
two sides to this.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
You're on the other side.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
Absolutely. Here's the thing. Rest in peace to John o'keeth.
Mike done with this family, his niece and nephew who
lost then then lost their guardian, the mother and father
who lost their daughter, son in law and then son,
and then this woman who doesn't even look remorseful at all.
Here's what I think what happened was. First of all,
(07:11):
she was drinking and driving and hit him. I think
was it murdered, No, it was definitely a manslaughter. The
reason why she did not go in that house with
John O'Keefe when they were invited is because she realized
Higgins was there, the man that she just kissed and
was flirting with How would you feel and how would
you look? You will look like a thought if you
just walked into somebody's house and the man that you
(07:33):
just kissed and was texting two days prior is sitting
there and you're with your man, like, how do you look?
And you're choosing him of cheating.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, people that are listening, guys, thought, is that hoe
over there?
Speaker 3 (07:49):
Continue?
Speaker 5 (07:54):
Absolutely, and that's what she looks like. It's no, because
Higgins was and I don't think that anybody in that place.
First of all, no disrespect to Karen, but who were
you before this? You were nobody? You mean to tell
me the whole Boston Police Department is trying to frame you.
Medical examiners are trying to frame people. Are every you
(08:15):
are that important that that everybody wants to frame you?
I don't understand it.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Well I would.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I would disagree with you on that and say it's
not about her, it's about them protecting themselves if in
fact they did do it, it's nothing to do with her.
Speaker 5 (08:27):
But again, again, nobody in that house was big enough
to put their life on the jempany for one another.
Like he didn't even said like he wasn't close enough
to any other for them to be like, oh, if anything,
they're gonna protect them, and they were gonna stop anything
from happening. And then you're trying to blame it innocent
pup like come on now, dog, let's let's plays. And
(08:52):
the prosecution has the mole of the dogs and uproly
there's the defense attorneys who that's a whole nother story.
But they when I didn't want the moss and couldn't
find the dog the first trial, what a coincidence. I
am very sorry. I am sorry for whoever is a
firm believer of her, But to turn on the whole province,
on the whole, I'm sorry for Province Blick of that,
(09:14):
the whole Boston Police department. Come on now, that's it's
just so far fetched. It would have been made more
sense if she said like she said in her documentary,
when she told her defense attorneys that she was the
short maybe I did hurt and maybe he did hurt
his leg, maybe he couldn't get up. Why would you
say that to your defensive attorney, and then you're gonna
say when you go to trial, oh, it definitely wants
(09:36):
to meet. No, you even said it was a possibility.
The men's blood and here is in your tail light, honey,
like you did it but own up to it. What
do I think you premeditated ment to kill? Absolutely? I
think that you absolutely not. I think that you rushed
off the scene because you seen Higgins is dead. John
was holding the same exact glass that he was holding
the scene. Leaven the the bar that glass was broken. No,
(09:59):
they're not gonna do oh exactly where the body was
in the snow, They're not. There's just too much to
go against it. I think that she was drunk. I
don't think was a perfect thing. I think once she
realized that Higgins there, she had to leave. I think
she accidentally hit him, maybe didn't even realize.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
It took off.
Speaker 5 (10:14):
That's why she woke up the knees at four thirty
in the morning. Oh call Jennifer called this and call
that one because she wanted close enough to any of
his friends, have any of the ombers, Yes, and she
wanted to see where he was. Not saying so sorry.
Everybody needs to focus on the.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Real issue, focusing panic dead hair. Nobody keeps I know, listen,
I do.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I've said that a million times I think John o'keef
gets lost in all of this, and I agree with
you on that.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Dude, can you.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
Step away your You obviously are very passionate, and I
love that about you, But can you take a step
back and also see that there is a very real
possibility that she gets acquitted because of the way this
investigation was.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Botched by the Canton Police Department.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
Putting bloody snow in red solo cups, there's butt dials,
there's all the things. Do you understand that there could
be enough reasonable and reasonable doubt that she does get acquitted.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
It breaks my heart every day to things that that
possibly could happen. To be honest with you, yeah, because,
like I said, do I don't think she should be
charged with murder. I think they were just going a
little too hard on that part because I don't think
she intentionally murdered him. I listen, I watched Julie.
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Grant every morning. I watched Vinnie.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Every night, So like I am stuck on Court TV.
It is on all day every child and like I
don't both that's just the child and going on right
now with the doctor, Like I watch every all of them,
and I just think that going after her for murder
is a little far fetched, Like I don't think she
was like, oh I'm gonna kill John tonight, Like, absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (11:39):
They had a.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Very toxic relationship. I still don't think she purposely killed him.
I think that it was a drunken accident. But I
think framing the boss, like saying the Boston PDS frame you,
I think that's I just think it's a little out there,
like I I personally don't think that is the case.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
I think that.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
She might have been a great person, and I still
think maybe she is a good person. But I think
that she's not not even shut his hair. For a
man that you supposing was with for the tunny years
and loved him, whether you did it or not, I
would be traumatizer now, and she doesn't seem And everybody agrees.
I know, I watched it. I watch it all that
(12:21):
day long. Everybody agrees that ways, But as a human being,
you have to acknowledge what his family has gone through
in the last few years. And she's not even acknowledging
that even to say, you know this one me, I
didn't do it. She's not even trying to.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
Absolute all the things, but her crying or not. Crying
doesn't make her a killer. Me making fun of her
freedom pickle chips outside doesn't make her a murder. We just,
you know, we got to see the bigger picture here,
and that's why there's a retrial and obviously you'll you'll
be watching just like the rest of us.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
Thank you so much for the call.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Are you had to rush her off that we just
don't have the time, We just don't.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Want it was not about what she was talking about
the facts and not her tone made me makes me
want to go out and smoke a cigarette, like I
just got yelled at her.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Theory, Yeah, understand about that.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, why do I want to face it? Especially after
old boy don't the ball? Like, oh really, that's what
we're doing. In essence, why do I didn't want to
go see that confrontation.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
That's that's setting myself up. That was one that it was,
that's from These people are passionate. Whenever side you're on,
there's passion.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
There was yelling at me like my mom did. She
just didn't want it. She wanted to make her
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