June 27, 2025 • 14 mins
It was so cool to talk to Jeff Pilson of Foreigner recently! One of my all time favorite bands and they are in concert Sunday night (6/27/25) at Stir Cove at Harrah's. You have probably heard that Kelly Hansen is retiring soon, but do you know why? Listen to this podcast with Jeff and you will love the reason!
Jeff has worked with some amazing musicians through the years and we talk about some of them here.
Jeff has worked with some amazing musicians through the years and we talk about some of them here.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hi, It's Lucy Chapman and welcome to another Here's More.
I've got a really special guest today for you, Jeff Pilson,
the bass player for Foreigner, and I'm super excited.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Jeff, welcome, well, thank you, and I'm very very honored
to be a really special guest.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Oh Okay, I grew up with Foreigner and I absolutely
love this band, and I am so glad to get
to talk to somebody from Foreigner. When you're growing up
with them, hear this music all the time, and then
here you are.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, well fabulous, I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm gonna fangirl on you know you have.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm a huge Here to More podcast fan, So here
you go.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
All right, yay, my first huge fan.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well you've got it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I hope not, but maybe.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm honored to be your first. Lucy.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Okay, you guys are out on the road. You've been
out for a while now. How's how's the tour going?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Ah, the tour is going fantastic, I mean really fun.
This is a big year for us and everything is
going swimmingly well, i may say, and we're just very
very excited.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Let's talk a little bit about you you have had
a great past, a very sparkling past. I looked you up,
I did, I have to admit I looked it up.
But you were with Docan for a while, You're with
do Oh for a while. And I'm also not only
am I a foreigner fan, but I love metal. I
(01:39):
love it. I love death metal, and my my listeners
know that, and they think that it's weird, But I
love metal too. So I loved that that you were
with Docin and Dio. Tell me about those days.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Wow, Well, I mean I was with I joined Docan
right after the first album was recorded, but before it
was released, which is the Break the Chains records. So
I joined in summer of eighty three. The record came
out in September of eighty three, and I was with
Docking through its run until we broke up in nineteen
eighty nine. Then we reformed again in ninety four and
(02:14):
did a string of records and tours in that period.
Then I left again in two thousand. Don has carried on,
but since then George Lynch and I have left, and
eventually mc brown left, so Don's kind of the only
original left, but he still got it going. I did
join deal in nineteen ninety three, which was a wonderful experience.
(02:38):
I loved being in that band. It was it was
just a tremendous experience. Ronnie Deal was an absolutely incredible
human being and you know, the greatest metal front man
of all time in my opinion, So working with them
was just amazing. And then, and of course, Ronnie passed
away in twenty ten, but I've stayed close with the
organization since it's kind of a family organizations. So my
(03:02):
connections to Docum and Deal are an incredibly important part
of my past and I'm so grateful to have both experiences.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And we're going to get to Foreigner and that's that's
what you're doing now, and I definitely love that as
as I've already said. So we're going to get to that.
But I know you're here now, and we want to
talk about you. We want to celebrate you and some
of the things that you have done, like playing a
bass player in Rockstar the movie.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Did you ever consider maybe going into that direction, going
into acting?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, I mean, you know, listen, it's tempting because the
acting part is really fun. I didn't get to do
a whole lot of acting I mean, I was considered
a principle, but we still are. You know, our parts
were fairly limited, and I was playing a bass player,
which is something I do every day, right, so it
wasn't much of a stretch. But I mean, you know, listen
acting is cool. The problem with acting for me is
(04:00):
it's incredibly tedious. You spend a lot of hours sitting
in your trailer while they set up the lights, and
you stand around a lot while they set up the
lights some more, and so it's a it's a real
hurry up and wait kind of job that I don't
know if I'm cut out for maybe acting in plays.
I'd love to do that someday, but you know, there's
only so much time. And I love music and I'm
(04:22):
very committed to being a musician. So no, not really
didn't really seriously consider it, although, like I say, I
would love to someday do some acting where I'm actually
doing a role that would require acting. Because I got
to watch some very very very talented people. I mean,
Dominic West is an incredible actor, and I got to
watch him very up close, got to know him, and
(04:43):
it was a tremendous experience. So there's that part of
me that loves that. But again, I'm so committed to
music and so busy with music that you know it'll
probably never happen.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, you know, let's stick with music for a minute,
because I have to. I have to bring this up
because this is Omaha, and Omaha has been called the
largest small town in the country, and so I have
to ask you about Michael Lee Perkins. You worked with.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Michael Yeah, I did. That was probably thirty five years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, I was in kindergarten with him, so I got
to beat.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Did you really? Oh, that's so amazing. He what a
talented guitar player and what a great human being. I
haven't spoken to him in many years, but we had
some either email or tech I think it was email
contact a few years back, so I have heard from
him since we worked together. But what a what a
(05:42):
talented guy, I mean really, really an exceptionally talented guy.
So I'm you know, he should be Omaha should be
very proud of him because he is a great one.
And I hope, I hope he's still doing well and
making records and people are acknowledging him there.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
The last I've heard he is so yeah, I think
he's doing really well. He's doing a lot in Europe,
I think, but he gets home once in a while
and we had my husband, I had a chance to
see him a couple few years ago and it's he's
you're right, he is just amazing. Well, let's talk let's
talk about Foreigner. What okay, what do you see in
the future. I know that there has been some news
(06:18):
that it is just within the last few days it
is not your farewell tour now all of a sudden
that's changed. What's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, you know, it's a long story, but essentially this
is going to be a transition year. At the end
of October, our singer for the last twenty years, Kelly Hanson,
who has been an incredible front man for this band.
You know, he's decided it's time to retire. He recently
got married for the first time in his life. He's
(06:48):
got a wonderful family. He's he's enjoying life in a
way that he never really got to in all the
years he's been working. You know, he's been in the
business forty five years. So he wants to, you know,
settle down and upon his retirement. Our second guitar player,
Luise who joined the band in twenty twenty one, just
(07:09):
absolutely stepped up to the plate. You know, at first,
when he heard that Kelly was retiring, he was all
upset and trying to talk Kelly into staying. And when
he realized now Kelly's really very settled on his decision,
Louise just stepped up and he started singing Foreigner songs
at little acoustics shows that he and Michael Bluestein and
(07:30):
Bruce Watson were doing just at breweries where they were
just kind of promoting Foreigner at breweries and what they
call a vib very important beer. He started singing the
Foreigner songs there and once people started hearing him sing
the Foreigner songs, it was like, wait a minute, what
have we got here? And so all of a sudden, he,
(07:50):
like I say, he stepped up to the plate, and
we've decided he is the new front man for Foreigner.
We just did a tour of South America a couple
of months ago. Lou Graham came with us as a
special guest, but which was great because he and Luise
get along great. But you know, Luis was the front man,
and my god, he pulled it off and the future
(08:13):
is incredibly bright for us. We were on The Voice
a few weeks ago and we made the announcement there
in front of six million people, which is perfect. And
basically on the show, Kelly announced I'm retiring and now
you're going to be hearing Luis Maldonado as the new frontman,
and Louise came out and sang Jukebox Hero and absolutely
killed it. We're going to be doing the same on
(08:35):
Fox and Friends. By the way, I believe next see
the next Tuesday or Wednesday, I forget whatever July second is.
And so the plan is after Kelly retires in October,
Louise is going to take over as front man. And
he is I mean, his voice is so magical, and
I mean we know when he joined the band that
(08:57):
he was a great singer. We just hadn't heard him
sing corner songs because there was no need at the time.
But once that became so apparent, our future is crystal clear,
and we are so incredibly motivated and excited about it that, yes, indeed,
there is a lot going on for Foreigner. We aren't
(09:17):
doing a farewell tour, which was the original plan. We
kind of thought, well, it's going to fold up when
Kelly retires, but Louise having stepped up the pressure from
everybody to keep going with there anyways, So it works
out perfect. We have a future, a bright future, indeed,
and we are excited and motivated to move forward.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I am excited about that too, that is, and I
love the story of why Kelly is leaving that it
could not be a better reason to He left for love.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, right, he did. And you know it's I mean,
it's organic, it's real. He's going out on top, which
I think is incredible. Not many people do. A lot
of people go a little bit, has the expiration date,
so to speak. He's not doing that. He's going out
at the right time. He's going to be. He has
a legacy to be very very proud of. He's done
(10:09):
an incredible job with this band and help bring this
band to new heights that you know, we didn't think
we're possible twenty years ago when we first got this
thing back together. So it's been an amazing run for him,
and he's laid the groundwork for us to go forward.
You're right, it's a very very wonderful reason that he's retiring,
(10:32):
And what a great life he's going to have. So
I mean, I'm just really happy for everyone all the
way around.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, you have Foreigner has taken on this idea of
bringing a choir on stage. I think you've been doing
this actually for several years. Many years you've been doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh yeah, probably a good fifteen.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I was thinking it had been a while. And this Sunday,
when you are at the Stir concert Cove, you will
have Janelle reads the West Connection from Bellevue West, and
I'm sure they are very excited about this. This has
got to be a lot of fun for you guys
too to see these kids up there.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Oh, of course it is because we kind of get
to experience it through their eyes and you see the
excitement in their eyes, and they love being up there singing,
and they love being up there in front of a
big crowd because you know, most of them haven't had
a chance to be in front of a crowd quite
that big at that point in their lives. So the
excitement is palpable. You can feel it. It makes us
(11:33):
more excited, and it's great for the audience, and it's
just a win win all the way around. Plus, you know,
we raise money for their schools because public school music
education is really suffering in this country right now. So
anyway we can help that is a great thing. And yeah,
it's really gratifying to have those choirs up there and
to watch them as they do it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Well, Jeff, we're looking forward to that show coming up
on Sunday at the stir concert Co have you been?
Have you been to the Stir Cove yet? I know
that Foreigner has been there. I just don't know when
the last time they were there.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, if Foreigner's been there, then likely I have.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, yeah, you've been with them twenty years.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I've been twenty one, twenty one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably
I probably have. I just I don't have a visual.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh you know that. I'm sure that a lot of
the towns start to kind of get all blend together.
I could think of the word blend together.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's an understatement.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The people, the people stand out. The town's eh, A
town is a town.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, And a lot of times when I get to
a venue, I'll recognize the venue. You know, maybe I
can't picture it ahead of time, but I'll recognize it
once it's in front of me. And you know, you
do tend to remember the certain places and the certain audiences.
And I'm just I'm looking forward to the show. It's
it's going to be Omaha is such a great rock city. Again,
(12:58):
you burst my so yeah, I look, I really look
forward to it. It's going to be a great show.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well, I can't thank you enough for joining me today.
I really appreciate this. I love bass players. I told
my husband, I said, I'm going to tell him that
you play bass, but you're not a bass player. He does,
he plays bass, but he's not a bass player. He laughed.
He said, just tell him. I play. I just don't
get paid for He doesn't get paid for it.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well, that doesn't matter. I mean, he has fun. He
can still be a bass player exactly, no harm in that.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
No, I give him a hard time about that. But
he likes to collect guitars, and that I'm having a
problem with because you know, that can get kind of pricey.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It can, but remember, more times than not, you'll you'll
do well. On the other side, I collect them myself
and my wife actually, who is very, very frugal, she
actually understands that I'm making investments.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, yeah, I I do. I get that, and and
it makes him. Look like you said, it makes him happy,
so that's that's good. Then you know, the happy husband,
happy life, right.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I sort of see it the other way around that.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
No, no, no, I've got it right.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Remember what rhymes with life?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Nope, nope, I'm going to come up with something that
rhymes with husband.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Then we'll talk on that one.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Well, it has been a pleasure. Thank you so much
for joining me today.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh my pleasure as well. Thank you.
Hi, It's Lucy Chapman and welcome to another Here's More.
I've got a really special guest today for you, Jeff Pilson,
the bass player for Foreigner, and I'm super excited.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Jeff, welcome, well, thank you, and I'm very very honored
to be a really special guest.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Oh Okay, I grew up with Foreigner and I absolutely
love this band, and I am so glad to get
to talk to somebody from Foreigner. When you're growing up
with them, hear this music all the time, and then
here you are.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Well, well fabulous, I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
I'm gonna fangirl on you know you have.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
I'm a huge Here to More podcast fan, So here
you go.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
All right, yay, my first huge fan.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Well you've got it.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
I hope not, but maybe.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
I'm honored to be your first. Lucy.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Okay, you guys are out on the road. You've been
out for a while now. How's how's the tour going?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Ah, the tour is going fantastic, I mean really fun.
This is a big year for us and everything is
going swimmingly well, i may say, and we're just very
very excited.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Let's talk a little bit about you you have had
a great past, a very sparkling past. I looked you up,
I did, I have to admit I looked it up.
But you were with Docan for a while, You're with
do Oh for a while. And I'm also not only
am I a foreigner fan, but I love metal. I
(01:39):
love it. I love death metal, and my my listeners
know that, and they think that it's weird, But I
love metal too. So I loved that that you were
with Docin and Dio. Tell me about those days.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Wow, Well, I mean I was with I joined Docan
right after the first album was recorded, but before it
was released, which is the Break the Chains records. So
I joined in summer of eighty three. The record came
out in September of eighty three, and I was with
Docking through its run until we broke up in nineteen
eighty nine. Then we reformed again in ninety four and
(02:14):
did a string of records and tours in that period.
Then I left again in two thousand. Don has carried on,
but since then George Lynch and I have left, and
eventually mc brown left, so Don's kind of the only
original left, but he still got it going. I did
join deal in nineteen ninety three, which was a wonderful experience.
(02:38):
I loved being in that band. It was it was
just a tremendous experience. Ronnie Deal was an absolutely incredible
human being and you know, the greatest metal front man
of all time in my opinion, So working with them
was just amazing. And then, and of course, Ronnie passed
away in twenty ten, but I've stayed close with the
organization since it's kind of a family organizations. So my
(03:02):
connections to Docum and Deal are an incredibly important part
of my past and I'm so grateful to have both experiences.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
And we're going to get to Foreigner and that's that's
what you're doing now, and I definitely love that as
as I've already said. So we're going to get to that.
But I know you're here now, and we want to
talk about you. We want to celebrate you and some
of the things that you have done, like playing a
bass player in Rockstar the movie.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah, yes, I did.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Did you ever consider maybe going into that direction, going
into acting?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, I mean, you know, listen, it's tempting because the
acting part is really fun. I didn't get to do
a whole lot of acting I mean, I was considered
a principle, but we still are. You know, our parts
were fairly limited, and I was playing a bass player,
which is something I do every day, right, so it
wasn't much of a stretch. But I mean, you know, listen
acting is cool. The problem with acting for me is
(04:00):
it's incredibly tedious. You spend a lot of hours sitting
in your trailer while they set up the lights, and
you stand around a lot while they set up the
lights some more, and so it's a it's a real
hurry up and wait kind of job that I don't
know if I'm cut out for maybe acting in plays.
I'd love to do that someday, but you know, there's
only so much time. And I love music and I'm
(04:22):
very committed to being a musician. So no, not really
didn't really seriously consider it, although, like I say, I
would love to someday do some acting where I'm actually
doing a role that would require acting. Because I got
to watch some very very very talented people. I mean,
Dominic West is an incredible actor, and I got to
watch him very up close, got to know him, and
(04:43):
it was a tremendous experience. So there's that part of
me that loves that. But again, I'm so committed to
music and so busy with music that you know it'll
probably never happen.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, you know, let's stick with music for a minute,
because I have to. I have to bring this up
because this is Omaha, and Omaha has been called the
largest small town in the country, and so I have
to ask you about Michael Lee Perkins. You worked with.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Michael Yeah, I did. That was probably thirty five years ago.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Well, I was in kindergarten with him, so I got
to beat.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Did you really? Oh, that's so amazing. He what a
talented guitar player and what a great human being. I
haven't spoken to him in many years, but we had
some either email or tech I think it was email
contact a few years back, so I have heard from
him since we worked together. But what a what a
(05:42):
talented guy, I mean really, really an exceptionally talented guy.
So I'm you know, he should be Omaha should be
very proud of him because he is a great one.
And I hope, I hope he's still doing well and
making records and people are acknowledging him there.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
The last I've heard he is so yeah, I think
he's doing really well. He's doing a lot in Europe,
I think, but he gets home once in a while
and we had my husband, I had a chance to
see him a couple few years ago and it's he's
you're right, he is just amazing. Well, let's talk let's
talk about Foreigner. What okay, what do you see in
the future. I know that there has been some news
(06:18):
that it is just within the last few days it
is not your farewell tour now all of a sudden
that's changed. What's going on.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Well, you know, it's a long story, but essentially this
is going to be a transition year. At the end
of October, our singer for the last twenty years, Kelly Hanson,
who has been an incredible front man for this band.
You know, he's decided it's time to retire. He recently
got married for the first time in his life. He's
(06:48):
got a wonderful family. He's he's enjoying life in a
way that he never really got to in all the
years he's been working. You know, he's been in the
business forty five years. So he wants to, you know,
settle down and upon his retirement. Our second guitar player,
Luise who joined the band in twenty twenty one, just
(07:09):
absolutely stepped up to the plate. You know, at first,
when he heard that Kelly was retiring, he was all
upset and trying to talk Kelly into staying. And when
he realized now Kelly's really very settled on his decision,
Louise just stepped up and he started singing Foreigner songs
at little acoustics shows that he and Michael Bluestein and
(07:30):
Bruce Watson were doing just at breweries where they were
just kind of promoting Foreigner at breweries and what they
call a vib very important beer. He started singing the
Foreigner songs there and once people started hearing him sing
the Foreigner songs, it was like, wait a minute, what
have we got here? And so all of a sudden, he,
(07:50):
like I say, he stepped up to the plate, and
we've decided he is the new front man for Foreigner.
We just did a tour of South America a couple
of months ago. Lou Graham came with us as a
special guest, but which was great because he and Luise
get along great. But you know, Luis was the front man,
and my god, he pulled it off and the future
(08:13):
is incredibly bright for us. We were on The Voice
a few weeks ago and we made the announcement there
in front of six million people, which is perfect. And
basically on the show, Kelly announced I'm retiring and now
you're going to be hearing Luis Maldonado as the new frontman,
and Louise came out and sang Jukebox Hero and absolutely
killed it. We're going to be doing the same on
(08:35):
Fox and Friends. By the way, I believe next see
the next Tuesday or Wednesday, I forget whatever July second is.
And so the plan is after Kelly retires in October,
Louise is going to take over as front man. And
he is I mean, his voice is so magical, and
I mean we know when he joined the band that
(08:57):
he was a great singer. We just hadn't heard him
sing corner songs because there was no need at the time.
But once that became so apparent, our future is crystal clear,
and we are so incredibly motivated and excited about it that, yes, indeed,
there is a lot going on for Foreigner. We aren't
(09:17):
doing a farewell tour, which was the original plan. We
kind of thought, well, it's going to fold up when
Kelly retires, but Louise having stepped up the pressure from
everybody to keep going with there anyways, So it works
out perfect. We have a future, a bright future, indeed,
and we are excited and motivated to move forward.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
I am excited about that too, that is, and I
love the story of why Kelly is leaving that it
could not be a better reason to He left for love.
I love that.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, right, he did. And you know it's I mean,
it's organic, it's real. He's going out on top, which
I think is incredible. Not many people do. A lot
of people go a little bit, has the expiration date,
so to speak. He's not doing that. He's going out
at the right time. He's going to be. He has
a legacy to be very very proud of. He's done
(10:09):
an incredible job with this band and help bring this
band to new heights that you know, we didn't think
we're possible twenty years ago when we first got this
thing back together. So it's been an amazing run for him,
and he's laid the groundwork for us to go forward.
You're right, it's a very very wonderful reason that he's retiring,
(10:32):
And what a great life he's going to have. So
I mean, I'm just really happy for everyone all the
way around.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Well, you have Foreigner has taken on this idea of
bringing a choir on stage. I think you've been doing
this actually for several years. Many years you've been doing this.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Oh yeah, probably a good fifteen.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
I was thinking it had been a while. And this Sunday,
when you are at the Stir concert Cove, you will
have Janelle reads the West Connection from Bellevue West, and
I'm sure they are very excited about this. This has
got to be a lot of fun for you guys
too to see these kids up there.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Oh, of course it is because we kind of get
to experience it through their eyes and you see the
excitement in their eyes, and they love being up there singing,
and they love being up there in front of a
big crowd because you know, most of them haven't had
a chance to be in front of a crowd quite
that big at that point in their lives. So the
excitement is palpable. You can feel it. It makes us
(11:33):
more excited, and it's great for the audience, and it's
just a win win all the way around. Plus, you know,
we raise money for their schools because public school music
education is really suffering in this country right now. So
anyway we can help that is a great thing. And yeah,
it's really gratifying to have those choirs up there and
to watch them as they do it.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Well, Jeff, we're looking forward to that show coming up
on Sunday at the stir concert Co have you been?
Have you been to the Stir Cove yet? I know
that Foreigner has been there. I just don't know when
the last time they were there.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Well, if Foreigner's been there, then likely I have.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Well, yeah, you've been with them twenty years.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
I've been twenty one, twenty one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, probably
I probably have. I just I don't have a visual.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
Oh you know that. I'm sure that a lot of
the towns start to kind of get all blend together.
I could think of the word blend together.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yeah, yeah, that's an understatement.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
The people, the people stand out. The town's eh, A
town is a town.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, And a lot of times when I get to
a venue, I'll recognize the venue. You know, maybe I
can't picture it ahead of time, but I'll recognize it
once it's in front of me. And you know, you
do tend to remember the certain places and the certain audiences.
And I'm just I'm looking forward to the show. It's
it's going to be Omaha is such a great rock city. Again,
(12:58):
you burst my so yeah, I look, I really look
forward to it. It's going to be a great show.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Well, I can't thank you enough for joining me today.
I really appreciate this. I love bass players. I told
my husband, I said, I'm going to tell him that
you play bass, but you're not a bass player. He does,
he plays bass, but he's not a bass player. He laughed.
He said, just tell him. I play. I just don't
get paid for He doesn't get paid for it.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Well, that doesn't matter. I mean, he has fun. He
can still be a bass player exactly, no harm in that.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
No, I give him a hard time about that. But
he likes to collect guitars, and that I'm having a
problem with because you know, that can get kind of pricey.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
It can, but remember, more times than not, you'll you'll
do well. On the other side, I collect them myself
and my wife actually, who is very, very frugal, she
actually understands that I'm making investments.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Yeah, yeah, I I do. I get that, and and
it makes him. Look like you said, it makes him happy,
so that's that's good. Then you know, the happy husband,
happy life, right.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
I sort of see it the other way around that.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
No, no, no, I've got it right.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Remember what rhymes with life?
Speaker 1 (14:11):
Nope, nope, I'm going to come up with something that
rhymes with husband.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Then we'll talk on that one.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
Well, it has been a pleasure. Thank you so much
for joining me today.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Oh my pleasure as well. Thank you.
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