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June 2, 2022 28 min

As a proportion of its population, California has one of the lowest rates of gun deaths in the United States — 8.5 per 100,000 people, compared with 13.7 nationally.

How did the state get that way?

Guest: Shawn Hubler, a California correspondent for The New York Times.

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Background reading: 

  • Californians are about 25 percent less likely to die in mass shootings, compared with residents of other states, according to a recent study. In a newsletter this week, the Times correspondent Shawn Hubler looked into how and why gun laws there work.
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