444pm-Drop-in-Sundays-Adult-Autism-Conversation-Open-to-All-EP41

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Hi there.
Every Sunday a group of autisticpeople get together and drop in.

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It's an informal group.
Um, but some of the things thatpeople say deserve a bigger audience,
so they give us permission for usto put them in a an edited reel.
And that's what we are here for today'sedited reel of the conversations
that we have about our own autism.
Cheers, enjoy.

Jules-AutisticRadio.com (00:46):
How's the rest of all that going?
Um, you know, a lot ofmedical stuff going on.
Is that getting easier now?

Lucy-Dawson-Autie-Unmasked: Um, no, not particularly. (00:53):
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Um, last week I was in thedoctor's three times for things.
This week I am.
Uh, due, let me see tomorrow,I'm actually, tomorrow I've got
another appointment I'm booked for,actually for the talk I'm doing.

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And then Tuesday I've got three.
But then Wednesday, Thursday,Friday I've got stuff.
So I've got a chest x-ray, I've gotto do some blood tests, um, and I've
got to go and see the mental healthteam, um, which is gonna be about
restructuring and re-jigging medicationthat I'm on, uh, because of my heart.
So at the moment it's like it,all my week is being taken up with

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these particular medical issues.
Nothing's like gonna behours worth of stuff.
It's just the traveling there and backand having to get buses and things.
Um, once this week is over, i I, it,maybe it'll go quiet, but then I've
gotta go and see my GP again, basically.
Yeah, I'm shocker.

But you've managed to sort of put
it into a, um, a kind of a, um,a chunk, like a box of this.
It's a lot of things I've gotta do.
So it's not overwhelming you, youknow, you've got it in the manageable
kind of proportion, even thoughyou feel, you know, it's too much,

Lucy-Dawson-Autie-Unmasked (02:10):
but it's big and it's gonna stay big.
Um, until I get all the answers Iwant, I've sort of brought it upon
myself because I've been asking somemedical questions of my doctor, so
he's.
Want this test and that test and bloodtest, and then this, you know, so, I
mean, I, I, I, I, I'm kind of, sort ofsaying, well, this is what you want and

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this is what you get, so deal with it.
But if I can do it quickly and get itout of the way, then I'm, I'm happier.
So I know I've got this whole weekwhere I've got things I've got
to do, and I'm just gonna go intoit and just get the week done.
It'll probably fly.

Jules-AutisticRadio.com: Yeah, looking backward. (02:47):
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It'll be a lot easierthan looking forward.

Lucy-Dawson-Autie-Unmasked: Next, next, uh, Saturday. (02:52):
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I'm probably gonna be just doing verymuch at all, you know, just doing my,
my usual Saturday things of going tothe local market on the square and,
you know, all the nice little things.
So if you set up, if you set upa destination at the beginning
of the week and you've got adestination at the end, it's better.
You know, I know I'm traveling forwardtowards where I, where I wanna be.

I'm just gonna pop out for a bit.
So if anybody goes in or out,they, I'm not here to let them in.
So try to maintain thesame presence you are at
the moment, guys.

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com (03:27):
It's strange how, where we want to be
is often, in a sense, a routine.

Yeah.
And it's that, but it'sa structure, isn't it?
I mean, I, I, I structure my days,um, but I know what Saturdays are for.
Um, and so everything doesbecome kind of routine, but
the routine you want to follow?
If, if it's something that I'mtied into and I really don't wanna
do it, then it, it feels draggy.
But, you know, I quite like going,doing the fruit and veggie on a

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Saturday and being in the bus.
Well, just for a little bit.

Yeah.
Some things are admissible, aren'tthere, because there, once a week say
they're put.

Robbie-AutisticRadio.com: Motorcycle, basic training. (04:10):
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And if that doesn't happen, Iwon't be able to do anything.
I won't be able to leave the village.
I won't, I'll have difficulty shopping.
I won't be able to socialize.

Harry-Autistic-Association.org (04:22):
Is

that like a, a bike proficiency test?
Like a, you know, a driving test?

Robbie-AutisticRadio.com (04:29):
It's a training you have to do to be on.
If haven't both practical tests, you have
to do it again.
I've tried to organize early,but I let down on the day of my

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previous, so I'll have notransport if it's not done.
Only will the training place haveto have a date, but we'll have
to have a lift from someone thereand back, which is a whole day.

So if, if you have, say, an issue with passing,
say, uh, and your, your license isexpired, would they give you some
kind of extension on your license?
No,

no
extension.
Until it's done, but it's acouple of, it's quite a long
way away if anything happens to,if the weather bad to do it, if

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I
and doesn't happen.
And
the bus surface is crap.

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: There like a bit of (06:03):
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Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: a mission there, Robbie. (06:04):
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You're going

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: get there and (06:07):
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do it.

I'm, I'm just terrified because I know the situation.
If it doesn't happen and I'll getall these responses wrong, don't
worry about it, but Iknow what I get like.
When I'm socially isolated and thereis nothing much for me in vrbo,

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four hours a week, maximum amountof the flats, the rests, the time
I don't see or speak to anyone.

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: Well, good luck with it. (06:37):
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Uh, I'm kind of hoping for youthat there is some kind of leeway
there and you know you're expiry.
There may be some kindof stretch room there.
Although you probably looped into itin depth, so I'm sorry if I'm just
repeating things you've already done.

Robbie-AutisticRadio.com: The problem with being is (06:55):
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people don't respond to
emails in the same way as I then gotmy therapist to contact them, but they
didn't get back to me until just before.
Before it.

A lot of that.
Rob, seems like you might have a casehere if the therapist is a witness to
that, that you have had like a lateresponse, which has put you in kind of
a position and there's somebody else whocan verify that for you, your therapist.

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You could argue that case.
No, it's a real hassle.
The way

it'd probably.

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: Reason, and (07:49):
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Robbie-AutisticRadio.com: I've also got the loss of (07:52):
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I don't training and later I have to hire

GR-Gary-AutisticRadio.com (08:03):
bike as well.
I took my bike test in 1981.
It was so different then they, they'd askyou a few questions on the highway code,
and then they'd just go out in the street.
A guy would stand there and say,go to the top of the road and turn
left, turn left, turn left, turnleft, and you'll be back here.

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So you'd ride up to the top of the roadand you'd do all your signals and mirrors.
Of course, as soon as you turn left, you
were outside.
So I went like a maniac rightthe way round and then slowed
down as I came back round.
I failed my test the first timebecause I had an nobb tires
because I had a trail been wet.

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My problem

is
hazard on the emergency.
The second autism affect me toslower processing, working out which
of particular hazard is the one?

Yeah, there was nothing like back then.
He, he, he told me that, go tothe road and do the four lefts and
when you come back round, I'll stepinto the road and put my arm up
and you'll do an emergency stop.
It was really that basic.
I say if I hadn't skidded on thefirst time, I would've passed,
but I passed on the second time.
But there was, uh, there were a

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lot of more motorcycle accidentsthen because was just too easy.

I took hazard.
In a sense, my hypervigilance probablyhelped me a lot with it because,
you know, I noticed everything.
You know, it's like,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I had to like just stop myselfbeing overcautious as a driver.

GR-Gary-AutisticRadio.com: I passed my driving test. (09:45):
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First time the guy hadjust come back from sick.
He'd had a.
I nearly clipped a cyclist.
Overtaking a cyclist.
And the end, he said,did you see the cyclist?
And I said, no.
I was concentrating on the road too much.
And when I did the three pointturn, he moaned at me because he
said I had to stop at a certainpoint and I stopped further along.

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He says, now you can't do your three pointturn 'cause there's a lamppost in the way.
And I said, you watch me.
And I did my three point turn, but Ididn't look over my shoulder on the back
and literally see the guy hands shaking.
He passed me and, um, I meanfour weeks later I was di driving
a three and a half ton truck.

It sounds like the forties or fifties, but
you are gonna say this is thesixties or seventies, aren't you?

No.
Uh, bike test was 81, car test was 82.
But back then, once you passed your,well, you could ride, um, I think 16 to.
Then you could go up to 250 and onceyou passed your bike test, you could go
up to any size engine and with a car.

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Once you passed your car test,you could drive anything up to
a three and a half ton lorry.
After that, it went into HMV Territory.
That

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: answers all my questions. (11:03):
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GR-Gary-AutisticRadio.com: Sorry, not H-M-V-H-G-V. (11:06):
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Yeah, I've never managed to geta job at HMV and I may be looking
at something on the internet rightnow about it, but There you go.
But, um, yeah, I passed mydriving test four weeks later.
I was working in a builder's merchant,so I was driving, um, three and a half
ton unid and lorry so it could, intheory, I could drive anything that

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was up to seven and a half ton laden.
And I was also, uh, driving a forklift.
The

only thing holding back on the.
I
all
other part of the no problem,just the difference reactions.
I see more hazard than

when I did the emergency stop on my car test.
The guy said he would, he would,uh, smash his hand on the.
Dashboard and I had to do theemergency stop and he banged his hand
on the dashboard and I made a pointof looking in the mirror and making
sure there was no one else around.
And then I did the emergency stop.
Not say I spent, spend a lotof time money on using nervous

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wreck right the way through,
but

passed complain, and I've never gone back.
But most of it stems from thefact that when you live in
London, you just don't need a car.
And so I've ha, I've beensort of no car all my life.
It was only when I came tolive out here in the world and
we were living in a village.
I thought, I'm gonna have to, becauseI felt so sort closed in tiny Village.
Um, I, God knows how many thousandsI've spent just trying to pass.

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But, um, you know, and I did one testand I, and I only really failed them
really small things, but I've just neverhad the, that push to go back and do it.
And it's expensive and, uh.

Where, where I live in Burwell, there's just nothing
I'm excluded from the only servicethat could be of use to me because
I haven't had autistic meltdowns.
I'm
writing to the ca new counselor on countycouncil trying to get help to find a
way of getting back because it leaves me

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of.

Lucy-Dawson-Autie-Unmasked: I've gotta go and see my mental (13:16):
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health team this week, Robbie.
So I'm, I'm with you on that.
I'm really not looking forward tohaving that battle again because it
generally always is, always turnsinto a bit of an argument with me and
them.

It's always sort of behaviorist crap you
get from the mental health service.
It's all about just thinkingabout things differently.
They, they're not the ones havingto sit in a flat on their own day
after day, not talking to anyone,which is what I face transport.

Lucy-Dawson-Autie-Unmasked: Yeah, I'm not far off that. (13:43):
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I mean, I, I, I, obviously, I ammarried and I have my husband,
but o of a daytime, um, I'm alone.
I've got, I've got no one hereapart from me and the cat.
Um, but I don't have anybody, no,I don't, I don't use the phone
and I don't reach out to anybody.
And generally speaking, I do live Mondayto Friday unless there's something

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special happening, quite an isolated life.
So I know how that feels.
And.
I know it, it kind of restrictsyou in lots of different ways.
I think just you, you feelit's frustration, isn't it?

Robbie-AutisticRadio.com: And being without (14:19):
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transport also affects my ability toshop, to look after myself, because
there's not many shops here in Burwell.
I have a lot of food sensitivities,so I end up sort of living off.

I,
I couldn't get by without the car.
Uh, a a year and a half ago,the car I was driving packed up.
I didn't have a car for four weeks.
I had to use the bus, and there'scertain places that I go to that,
um, it would take me nearly half aday to get there by a bus, and it

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would take me 25 minutes in the car.
So I, I couldn't do without, majority of

places I go to, you can't get by bus.
That's a bus running on that
day.

GR-Gary-AutisticRadio.com: Those, you can, can do that. (15:10):
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It takes two or three

hours and coming back there's a huge
risk of becoming stranded becauseyou'll getting towards the last bus.

Yeah.
Around here.
Um, a.
Into Totten and then get a bus, Totonbus to Limington or There are, there
are, there are four buses a week.
Toton one out, one back.

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I mean, it's ridiculous.
On two days.
One bus out, one bus back on, onthose days I couldn't go Toton.
And um, there's social,
you, it be like three, four hours.

Most of them
are too far away to do by bus.
The daytime stuff is hourly.
They've got the new service iscontactless or exact fair, and I'm
concerned if I don't have theexact fair, are they gonna leave

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stranded in Cambridge overnight?

I'd rather a nice thing happen.
Um, I'm gonna be 60 in a few days time, soI applied for my, um, national entitlement
card, which up here in Scotland will giveme, um, free bus travel off peak around
in, in Scotland, but not in England.
Um, and I live on the border, um, andmy wife very similar age to myself.

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She's just past 60.
So she has done the same and we'vegot these in the post and we,
we had a laugh and a joke about,um, what we might do with it.
Um, maybe hook it up with a specialrail when the over fifties rail
club comes in on Scotland railand um, and do a big journey into

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the middle of Scotland somewhere.
And then use the buses up there to getthrough the Glens and have a look around
and not have to drive, you know, just go.
To, um, the travel lodges anduse 'em like youth hostels when
they're, um, on their lowest pricesin the, uh, in the wintertime.
So that's a bit of fun on busesthat I'm looking forward to, even

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though at the moment, yeah, mostof our stuff is done by car because
we live in the middle of nowhere.

I've had my pass for two years, Jules, and never
used it once, basically because I still.
Yeah.
It, it's one
of these things you dream about whenyou're younger is the, the senior pass,
you know, I think down south they, they,they have an over 60 senior pass too,

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but specific as opposed to the nations.
Yeah.

Yeah.
Unfortunately it is.
That's one of the thingsthat devolution buggered up.

Even if I use the bus for the few things
that are accessible, the two craftroots and the walking group, it's
extremely expensive on bus comparedto what it cost me on the bike.
I could do the three groups on thebike less than six, uh, to do it on

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the bus.
You.
Out the little bit ofmoney I'll get on pip.

I'm wondering, Robbie, can you not claim for a bus pass?
'cause my autistic friend hereis well young, you know, and
he's got like a free pass for the
buses.

I think the fact that I ride the
bike will be taken against me.
They usually find some excuseto exclude me from everything.

Yeah, you, you might be making an
assumption there, Robbie, because.
Raymond is correct here in Scotland.
Um, you get a national entitlement cardfor a disability, um, for autism on
the basis that autistic people benefitfrom being able to go to, um, places

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of job placement, volunteering, um,taking part in activities that are
specific to them, and so they get a pass.
And it's probably thesame down in England.
You probably could get a free bus pass.
Um, it might be somethingworth looking into.

It might give me access to the only three
activities that I can do because the,the, the NewCom has taken over the
bus into Cambridge.
Insist, contactless or exact fair.
And being that I have no way of.
Contact

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: leaves me open for a lot of theft. (20:06):
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Robbie,

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: do you have a local library? (20:11):
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They may be able to help you?

Robbie-AutisticRadio.com: Yes, there is a local library. (20:16):
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How helpful they'll be to me withthe way the village has been me.
It'll be another thing.

Yeah.
There's alternativetricks to this contactless
business.
Using your bank card foryour main bank account.
Um, you can actually getcards that are prepaid.
You, you just load them up yourselfwith a, a tenor and, you know, as
soon as that tenor's gone, it's gone.

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It's, it's just like a little shoeboxthat you can carry around with like cash.
But in a, in a, um, electronic format,you don't have to carry around your
main bank cards or a credit card oranything like that to use contact.
They, they're kind of like,um, little piggy banks.
They even do them for kids sothey grownups can get them too.

Are prepaid cards available in rural areas?

Yeah, because they're, they're international.
They're attached to the, um, theVisa and MasterCard systems, which,
um, all of these scan and things.
They just, as far as the machinethat's reading them go, it looks
like it's a savings account witha certain amount of money in.
And if it goes over that amount,it doesn't allow it to go out.

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And if it does go, if there's enoughthere, it'll take it off, you know?
So

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: it's still using the phone (21:43):
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when you get on any transport.

It could be a physical card.
It could look, just, look like aVisa card, just like a, you used to
use them a lot when you used to goabroad and you want to spend in the
local currency of Euros, for instance.
So you'd prepay your price.
You'd fix your price on, on yourEuros, how much it was gonna cost.

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You'd know how muchyou'd loaded the card up
with.
Be like a, a virtual wallet until itwent down in value as you used it.
And so everywhere you spend, you'dbe spending in the actual currency.
So you wouldn't get stung for fivepound transfer fees every time
you used it, that kind of thing.

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So these sort of things have got form.

Yeah.
Got, you know, understandit's a loaded credit card.
I was kinda imagining when youfirst started that it was one of
these, um, prepaid bus tickets youused to get from the bus depot.

Jules-AutisticRadio.com: Well for them I use an app. (22:43):
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Um, you're right, it's on the phonebecause he was just saying about this
pricing down where he's, I just wentfrom, um, ho, which is my local town.
Um, I'm in Jeda and Ho's abeautiful little town near here,
um, where we've also got the otherradio studio for autistic radio.

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Um, and I took a bus.
From there using a day, row day, singletrip ticket on my phone for about
six pound 50 or something like that.
And it took me over theborder, through the hills.
Um, beautiful, beautiful trip.
Um, high up on the bus, not having todrive over to Carlisle in, into England.

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Um, when I got my train up to go tothis conference and on the way back I
had this lovely trip, same deal on the.
It was almost like, it was almost likebeing a tourist where somebody has
dropped you off a cruise ship and theysay, now you are on this big bus and it's
gonna drive you along this scenic route.

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And that's the public bus service.
You know?
So for me it, it, it's a funtrip when I go on a bus normally.

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: Yeah, it sounds lovely. (23:59):
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My first question as always was,are other people on the bus?
Which is the issue for me.
Um.
And part of what we used to get with thedisablement entitlement to bus, uh, usage
was that you got what was called the cplus or the c plus plus card, which was
um, to enable a friend to come with you ifyou had issues, say, with traveling alone.

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Oh yeah.
The oyster out.
I to love the London Pass.

Yeah, my oyster card was my thing because I've
never driven, so, you know, that was mylittle freeze pass and you just, you know,
you could just load it up with cash andyou didn't have to get your card involved.
But, um, I, I was just looking, um,at the concession bus pass thing, so
it, it, I've looked it up for myself.
It does vary from council to council,it would seem so I can't get one.

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Um, even with my disability, so I, I,there's a big long list of things that
they do, but I'm not included, so I'm outof that one I have to pay from now on.

Yeah.
I think sometimes the Scottish system ismore progressive on some of these things.
Um, it's part of the politics of theSMP and they've been in for a while.
So it might be that he is the only inScotland that it's recognized in this way,

as my friend Pauline used to say,
are we, who is easier to manage?

Yeah, exactly.
What are we like 5 million ofthe population and they're 70 odd

and almost, you know, the maps are incorrect
sometimes visually, you know, Englandlooks so much bigger than Scotland on
certain maps, but really the differenceisn't that much landmass wise, but
maybe I'm entirely wrong there.
And that's one of these urban myths.

It was taught to me in geography.
Um, and it, it's
down to
the way that we look at, um, thatprojection and with the projection
is actually London centric.
Um, so everywhere away from Londonlooks smaller than it is in real life.
But Scotland is, um, half ofthe land mass of the, of the,

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the largest island, uh, which isScotland, England, Wales, together.

With what?
A 10th of the population?
Is that right?
No, no.
Even worse.
Uh, 20, less than 10th.

Eight?
No, I think it's a 0.8

0.8.
So 65 mil?
No, 65 million in the UK in general.
I don't know the England population.

I think it's um, 70 odd now.
Um, and we are about five and they'reabout, I dunno, 68, something like that.

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: Is that reform statistics? (26:39):
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Sorry, I couldn't resist that one.

Yeah.
What we need is moreimmigration basically.
Um, and the immigration that wehave, we need to stop using as a, um,
political football and allow thesepeople to settle and get into work, um,
and use their skills in our economy.
Um, 'cause at the moment they're beingexploited by, um, property owning

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classes who are renting them out inhotels and in dreadful circumstances
where they're having a terrible time.
We need more immigrationin this country, not less.

It might even become a Tory policy in future
for them to regain some votes.

You know, it

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: is actually possible now. (27:23):
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And what they have had managed to do was to sort of take
the main center ground, but that centerground is moving into a kind of rebellion.
They won't necessarily go back to theold batch of days at all in their loyalty
of that kind, those kind of value.

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Um, it may.
A
less than socialist, um, labor party.
It may have even swung that way.

I've gotta the point where I just don't believe
politicians, it's all about money.
Who can, who can donatemost of political parties?

Yeah.
Kind agree with Rob there.
It's like when the newish takeover fromthe traditional posh aristo, aristocratic
elite, God, that's difficult to say.

Politicians represent their constituents.
They represent their party.
They're forced vote whip, andthe parties are bribed by money.
So there's, there's actually nodifference between any of them.

My biggest concern is that under the
old Marxist theory, the capitalistscontrolled the means of production.
And that was what keptthe working classes going.
And the thing is that a machinepeople have become slave to machines.

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They have to have Alexa.
They, um.
And when people are, I used to do multidrop deliveries every once in a while.
Um, lorry driving that is now you areslave to a machine telling you how fast
and how quickly you've gotta do it.
And that's why there are so manymistakes made and very poor deliveries

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: becoming machines. (29:29):
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Um,

I'm concerned that the machines are running us now.

Labor part, pushing noise about getting disabled
people into work, but all the jobsbeing replaced by zero contracts, uh,
mechanization, ai, self-service tools.
So there aren't the jobsthere for to get to.
It just puts them a where theybenefit, which can be sanctioned and

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have.

Isn't this kinda what they promised us at
school though, and you know, whenthey've envisioned the future, you
know, they promised us jet packs.
It was like, oh yeah, there'll be allthese machines to do all the work and
we'll all have immense leisure time.
But they didn't tell you it wasgoing to be a dystopian future.
You know, they, theyportrayed that as a utopia.

The few years I was thinking about writing a book.
Because when I was a child, uh,I mean, I'm in, I'm into science
fiction and, uh, so we're talking 70.
So we had, um, 2001
a Space Odyssey.
We had space 1999,

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and the future that wewere sold was a lie.
It wasn't what we were actuallygoing to get, you know?
Um, I mean the Star Trek is set evenfurther in the future, but the future
that we would solve, sometimes I

think the future's another one of these.
There's a lie.
We still haven't really got it to keepyou, you know, going to keep you working

well.
'cause of, of all thesefilms I've seen and.
Purport to be set in.
I, I say that the thing aboutthe future is it's in the past.

The problem is the current Peter happened before.
That's

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the two main parties, labor conservative
are doing exactly what
the.
In fact, greedy peoplefrom all big companies and

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I was.
I was watching a film theother day called Free Jack.
Which was made in 1991 and a guygets whisked forward to 2009.
For a moment

there I thought you were gonna talk about from be called
divorcing jack with David Ulli in it,where he dresses up as a nun on the run.
Anything David Ulli is what?
Watch.
No, I've

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masterpiece and must look for
it, including the current.

Sorry, go on.

I think I have brassed off some, so I, I
think I have bra off somewhere.
He was Star, he off
film Naked.
Um,

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for
one, a free DVD and a, um, hangon, am I thinking of the same guy?
I'll have to look him up.

And he's currently in a Sherlock Holmes
kinda remake called Shean Daughter.

No, I was thinking of another actor, but,
uh, but I was getting them confused.
I'm just looking up, uh, you list,see if there's anything, if it's
not horror fiction, science fiction.
Fiction was and Fargo as well.
So can for weird mystery,comedy, stroke cult.
I was gonna mention,haven't I watched him on

that And he's fantastic in that as well.
Ever watched,

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: wasn't he married for a while? (33:21):
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Anna Fri of Brookside, thefirst lesbian kiss on tv.

Lucy-Dawson-Autie-Unmasked: Know, I think you're right. (33:29):
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Um, I've forgotten that, but Ithink they were married at one time.

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There

he was in a relationship with English actress
Anna Frill from 2001 till late 2010.
Their daughter was born in 2005.

He's, uh, ears are burning wherever he is right now.
His ears
are really burning.
He's thinking there's a lotof people talking about me.

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: Just for naked alone. (33:55):
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That was a life changer.
That one

I just look up.
He was in Kingdom of Heaven, which,uh, I have, uh, he was in the
remake of the Omen, which was awful.
He'd done a couple of HarryPotters, um, just trying to, uh.
Flick through.
I don't think there's a lot ofstuff that he's done that his

agent has been working hard on my

GR-Gary-AutisticRadio.com: shelves, to be honest. (34:21):
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Oh, he's in the next Avatar movieand the next avatar movie after that.
Face it.
If you're in an
avatar, uh, 'cause uh, the chances areyou're gonna, if you're on a percentage,
you're gonna make a lot of money.
It's funny.

(34:41):
When, um, he listened to the podcastand he said, this GR Robertson is
it so you can remain anonymous.
So I had to go into the, um, thehistory of, of how that started.
And, um, I dug deep on YouTube andit actually started with a bubble Yum
bubble gum advert about 1977 with a.

(35:02):
I thought,
um, I had Gary Robertson on my LinkedInpage, and if I went for a job, I
didn't want anyone looking me up onFacebook to see what was up to me.
My personal life.
There's anything particularly,uh, shocking in there,

(35:24):
but you just never know.
Yeah, I've never seen that with Jack Wild.
The, um, the American thing.
That was by the guy, theguys did the monkeys as well.

Uh, but anyway, and I think he did, um,

Nana splits.
I think Henson was primarily, um, because
I think he started off doing, comeon a late night talk show in America,
and then it was mainly sesame.

(35:56):
I mean, I, I really liked the filmLabyrinth Big from the autistic David
David Bow, and he also did Dark.
I was just watching adocumentary about pee heroin.
I think they were both Flo
as well.
Yeah.
It's funny that the, the, the directorjust pinged up on my Facebook feed.
Yeah, I mean, I was aware of the first,Tim Burton did the first film, PeeWee's
Big Adventure, which was really good.

(36:18):
And then there was PeeWee's Big
Top with.
He was in Batman, the secondBatman movie as the father of the
Penguin, and he was in the originalmovie of Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Before it was a TV series.
But yeah, I mean, he hadhis, uh, his personal life.

(36:41):
He's very, very

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: playful with his autobiography. (36:41):
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Sort of destroyed his career.
I'd like to see the documentary.

I mean, I've, I've seen, 'cause obviously in America,
PeeWee's Playhouse was a big thing.
I, there's, uh, if I ever sawthe DVDI don't think it was
ever released here on DVD.
Um, if I see a, a copy, I'll pick it up.
Um, but um, yeah, thefirst movie was great.

(37:04):
Especially if you
ever seen doing the danceat the bike apart, who are

both kinda like, you know, avant-garde outsiders,
really, until they hit this amazing,oh, he and his friends hit this
amazing comedy formula, which was justlike a, a collage of everything they
were already doing that had failed.
You know,

I, I saw a, there was a special, which was shown, I
think on channel four, which was a peewee.
Uh, sufficiently childish for, forchildren to like, but also there was
this sort of, um, slight entendreunderneath that adults would appreciate.

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: Good evening everyone. (37:46):
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I know I'm about late evening, honey.
Just using this opportunity tocheck my sound, everyth my sound.
Okay.
It was nice to kinda come into theroom, so to speak, uh, with the,
the chat, you know, the subjectthat you were talking about.

(38:08):
I don't know much about it,but it's just a sort of nice,
sweet atmosphere to walk into.
That's good.
See,
it's not all, well, I'm not sayingit's not a sea, but it's, it's
not all doom and gloom, is it?

Raymond-AutisticRadio.com: Well, you missed the stuff we (38:21):
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were talking about before that.

Harry-Autistic-Association.org: I'm sure there must have been (38:25):
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things like that as well.
Of course.
Fair enough.

Yeah, it's been fairly twisty this evening,
so we've been, we've been into thedark and into the light a little
bit, so it, but it's quite niceto round off with something happy.

Yeah.
I think I'm just getting lazybecause I know that I do the, the
Facebook thing, uh, at five to six.
I thought, well, I no.
Me just being me has this
kind of, this hint of guilt or feelingbad for not being here earlier.
And then I realizedit's not just about me.

(39:02):
People just talk away and do what they do.
So I know there go, I

have, it's a very common experience.
Harry, I think it, I was talking to afriend yesterday, an autistic friend
about, you know, the experience, thegroup, the group experience and how much
you take off the individual into that.
What's really good about the groupis it kind of, uh, smooths down the
edges of this individual and helpsyou access kinda the group mind or

(39:33):
feeling, you know, eventually, youknow, and you, you've just explored
that there and what you just said.

Yeah.
What's your made me of is, uh, yearsago I used to go to these kindin,
you know.
And they were on for a couple hours andthey kinda, and they were always drop-ins,
but I was always feeling matters aboutlate, even though nobody's expect you at
a certain time, except from the time thatit starts and obviously when it finishes.

(40:01):
But, um, yeah, it kind of reminds me ofthat because I can remember the time where
it just like felt sort of kinda, I supposelonely I, I suppose is the word, other
thing, because there were a lot of thingsin my mind, but get into these places.
It was mental health groups.
And they just get in and justhaving a chat, just about anything.
Sometimes it could be quite intensedepending on what's going on,

(40:24):
and sometimes it's just talkingabout hobbies or just talk about
anything generalconversation within limits.
So that's what it felt like coming in.
I brought back some nice memories.
Autistic radio is about us.
It's for us, and it's from us.
Autistic Radio is about you.
It's for you, and it can be from you.
We have every single Sunday dropin four, four 4:00 PM every Sunday.
That's not live.
That's us getting together,us talking community.
Every Sunday, Harry leads a fivefive 5:00 PM a discussion around
the Facebook page that he creates.
Involve yourself by suggestingwhat we should talk about next.
Share it with Harry and.
The bigger picture, advocate, use us.
Speak to the world, your project,your idea, your enthusiasm.
We have a whole range of differentprograms that will fit what you want.
As
far as listening goes, there'ssome challenging stuff out there.
Because amongst the identity, theentertainment, and the community,
we also make serious programs withautism professionals challenging
their ideas and bringing whatyou say in other spaces to them.
A lot of those are difficult listens,but it's a holistic gathering.

(40:44):
It comes all together.
Autistic radio is very varied.
We need a favor to encourage us.
We need you to share us.
When you share us.
You give autistic people power.
When you share us, you makeus impossible to ignore.
When you repost on LinkedIn and Facebookand anywhere else, you are advocating
for everybody in the autistic community.
So
pick the things that you arehappy with and get them out
there.

(41:07):
So
thank you, thank you, thankyou, thank you from all of us.

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