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June 2, 2025 60 mins

Hospice doctor, podcaster, and author Jordan Grumet joins us to explore why the traditional idea of “finding your purpose” might actually be making us miserable. Drawing from his work with patients at the end of life, Jordan challenges the pressure to chase big, lofty goals—or what he calls “big P” Purpose—and instead invites us to embrace “little p” purposes: the simple, joyful activities that ground us and connect us to others. From childhood passions to quiet regrets, Jordan shares practical ways to identify what truly lights you up and how to build a life that feels meaningful—without overhauling everything.

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[0:00] Intro and Speed Round with Jordan Grumet

[7:01] Why Is Purpose So Important?

[10:52] Why Big P Goals Can Cause Anxiety

[16:43] Childhood Joys, Baseball Cards, & Writing

[19:32] You Can’t Fail Little P Purpose

[24:09] Overcoming Barriers to Purpose

[34:41] Regret vs. Disappointment

[46:25] Grooving Session: Creativity, Cadence, and Purposeful Context

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