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May 16, 2023 27 mins

For this episode of BioChat, Kin Leung speaks with patent attorney Nate Luman, who also has a PhD in chemistry, to learn more about how an advanced science background can benefit someone in alternative careers to research science, including the law. 

Nate, a practicing attorney at the law firm of Knobbe Martens, shares his educational journey, as he pursued his doctorate in biological chemistry and the exciting discoveries he made with his mentor with biological polymers, before transitioning full time into practicing patent law. We discuss the process to earning a law degree and a position in an intellectual property firm, the every day activities of a lawyer that are not always like what Hollywood might show you in the movies, and Nate is also happy to talk to anyone who wants to explore alternative careers, so please feel free to reach out to us via the links below.


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