#444 Virgil Kaine Old Fashions and Rye

Martelle and Randy kick back with pours of Virgil Kaine—starting with their classic Ginger Old Fashioned and moving on to the Ribbon Rail Rye. As the whiskey flows, the conversation drifts through Ohio weather shifts, updates on Martelle’s basement setup, and a nostalgic dive into one of Martelle’s childhood bedrooms.It’s a laid-back episode full of stories, sips, and a little sentimental chaos.

Recorded on 07/28/25.

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Episode Transcript

(00:17):
Let's start the wild as the night, pouring other

(00:38):
glasses. Welcome to the Buckhorn podcast.
I'm Martel. With me always is Randy in the
void, because Mike's dead to us now.
If you've ever poured one out for a homie, you've come to the
right podcast. That motherfucker's moving.
Can't really pour him out in here but.
Yeah, he's on his. He's driving to Utah right now.
As we sphincter. So Randy and I are going to do

(01:02):
Virgil Kane Ginger old fashions.And some other stuff off camera.
And he's going to go home and then I'm just going to play
video games. Pretty accurate, I mean.
It's pouring right outside. It is what it is.
It's fucking is been raining fornothing but two days in this God
forsaking hell hole of a state. We've gotten very little rain.

(01:24):
So I'm talking to Liz about whatI got here.
It's just like it rained a little last night.
It's as or this morning, I guessat some point, but.
It. Not even enough to watch the
bird crap off my truck so. We got all the fucking.
You know what? Make it rain.
Pour that one out for Mike. There you go, Mike.
There you go, Mike. So.

(01:46):
Rest in peace, our brethren. Yeah, he's not really dead.
He's just dead to us. You went to Utah, you might as
well be dead. Yeah, I mean fucking Mormons and
everything else out there, No. That soaking Mormons.
That is the shit for old fashions, the best.
If you want a nice you have to counter it though with like a

(02:09):
heavy smoke. It gets super sweet if you fuck
it up. Yes, especially when you had the
simple syrup in the. Which we're not doing simple
syrup, so. Orange or but your traditional
fashion, if you use the ginger, it's already kind of sweet.
I like it. I mean, I wouldn't slam a bottle
of it probably. Yes, you would.
You have. Not in one sitting.

(02:31):
In 2 days. That's two sittings.
Well, the way you sleep, that's probably 1.
Dude, I've been on Dolly Parton sleep sleep playing this last
week, believe it or. Not fuck is Dolly Parton sleep.
Sleeping 9:00 to 5:00 on 2 dirtypillows.
Jesus. I don't know why you refer to
best boobs as dirty pillows, but.
Well she washed them so no. I last weekend was like I was

(02:52):
sleeping like 4 to 7:30 AM and just my normal jacked up sleep
schedule. And then Sunday I napped from
like 3:00 to 5:00 and I didn't sleep again till Monday night at
9:00. Not intentionally, I just didn't
feel tired. I felt physically exhausted, but
not I, I couldn't sleep. And then when I fell asleep
Monday it's been like 9 to five,5:30-ish every day until last

(03:15):
night I was up to 130 got up about 8:30.
But I'm still trending towards amore normal quote UN quote
normal sleep pattern which is good.
I've been up by like 7730 every day at the latest.
Get to work. So yeah, it's been, it's been

(03:35):
weird for me. Good, I'm sure.
Well, I'm I'm happy to hear thatat least that's that's a step in
the right direction because yoursleep schedule is a fucking
mess. Oh, there was no schedule,
right? It was sleep whenever I felt
tired and two hours here, 4 hours there right.
So I've been trying to stay consistent since it happened.

(03:56):
So thanks to Mike, we do have Trader Joe's orange slices he
introduces too, which these again give them a Trader Joe's.
They're they're moist and sweet,says right on the package.
Well, those are probably not. Those are been open for a while.
But they're still. Sweet.
So we're going to. Stir.
They're dry. Speaking of Dolly Parton, you
know what? I keep forgetting shit.

(04:18):
Man, you used to be so good at this.
I know it's. Been.
A while. It has been a while, that's
true. But yeah, the ingredients are.
We do our own skew in an old fashion.
We love it. The Virgil Cane Ginger's the
staple. Yeah, you saw Martel zesty and
an orange. He also smokes our drinks
because he is a connoisseur and a chef.

(04:40):
Yeah, maybe, I mean. When you want to be, you are.
Yeah. When I want to be When you're in
the mood, like if you're smokingsomething or like a good brisket
or. We're abusing this, by the way.
We just abused that whiskey in there.
Yeah, you did. Gently, gently stirring.
All right, So a little bit of zest in here.

(05:01):
A little zesty, zest clean. That out and I use a like a
Clementimer, a cutie as opposed to an orange.
Yeah, orange would work, but. Cuties are cheaper, and they
have they're they're sweeter. I was going to say I think
they're a little sweeter too. Make a little more zip on them.
Let's see, what wood do you wantbecause I'm going to smoke them

(05:22):
each individually, so I have. Are we doing different kind of
sampling? So what kind of wood do we have?
Well you can choose whatever wood you want.
It's fine. So aged and charred does a great
smoking kit and they have a hi hat smoker that I typically will
just smoke the whole thing, but I'm going to smoke them
individually. That way we can each have a
different smoke on earth. So I've got pear, cherry, Peach

(05:45):
and apple, Hickory and oak. Let's try PEAR.
I don't think I've ever had PEAR.
Pear sounds good. That's what I was going to go.
With is it OK? There you go.
So. Yeah, I'm intrigued.
I was going to go Peach, but pear sounds really to me.
Pears a much a less sweet fruit,a little drier when you eat it

(06:06):
so. Apparently the pear is open.
Looks that way all. Right.
So we'll try this and see what we think.
With pear because that's what I haven't used it yet.
I've done Peach and I tried to make and I failed miserably
because I didn't have anything Peach.
Try to make a Peach cobbler old fashioned without any Peach

(06:27):
stuff. Just a Peach wood.
Crown Peach. Crown Peach, yeah.
It didn't. It wasn't good.
I was. I was waiting.
For it wasn't good at all. Because I was going to recommend
crown Peach, but did you smoke it or just make?
It I smoked it, Yeah, I just, soI made it an old fashioned with
Peach. Peach wood.
Peach Wood and Alpena. Alpena.

(06:49):
Yeah, Alpena. Oh, OK.
Bitters and simple syrup. A little bit of simple syrup and
then smoked it with the Peach wood and let me tell you, it was
not good. Was it too peachy?
Like Too candy Peach. No, it was.

(07:10):
Not cobblery. Not good.
It just wasn't. There's no there's really no way
to describe how good it wasn't, so do you first?
Oh, do me first, do me. So where can folks find this?
They just online. What's it called again?

(07:32):
Aged. Aged and charred.
So, and they actually sent me the this little sample box of
wood chips because I, there was a video they wanted to use and
I'm like, yeah. And that's fine.
I said can you send me? I said I don't have a problem
with using it, but can you send me like the fruit pack of wood
chips? They're like, yeah, absolutely

(07:54):
cool. Like cool.
Yeah, fine, great. Well.
Good on them. Sounds good.
Yeah, and I love like, I just, Ijust like the the smell of the
the wood chips. Oh.
That's beautiful. I'm going to edit this later.
Take out our stupid voices. Yeah, put it on TikTok.

(08:17):
I'll probably just you to put onwhatever.
The Tiki T.O.K is well, Mike's supposed to be the one doing the
social media and nothing's been posted.
But now he's going to Utah, where they don't have
electricity, so. They do, they just use water
wheels and donkey power. My buddy just did his final move
from Sunbury to Missouri on Friday.
That's a stupid. Move and on his way out of town,

(08:39):
his last drive, he has a TRX, sonice truck, expensive truck.
Yeah. He took a piece of Rd. debris
and then went through his door. His passenger tore it left like,
oh, it looked like somebody shotit.
I don't know how the hell you dothat, but.
He didn't either. Nobody.
The pattern, you can tell it's not a bullet hole, but there's a
hole through his door, so he gets out the they're they're

(09:01):
outside of Springfield. Yeah, Oh.
And Oh yeah, don't forget those.I moved them and and I asked for
his rental car. I said they give you a 1
horsepower 2 horsepower buggy. God, but.
He's already loving it because like he got in there the next
day at like 4 to get the check, the truck checked and some
barriers blowing up as Clums grows.

(09:22):
So he was ready to get out of town.
He's he's like it's growing too fast.
The infrastructure is not keeping up.
Oh no. Nothing in Ohio is keeping up.
Our property taxes are going through a goddamn roof right
now. In Springfield like the people
per square miles like 1.3 or something to where Columbus is
like almost 4 it's. 4 an acre. So an acre, yeah, the population

(09:43):
density is way lower there. Their population greater
population 170,000 to Circleville's 14, but their
population density is lower thaneven Circleville.
That is. Which was surprising.
Which land wise, Circleville's not big.
No, Circleville's not big, but. There's not a lot of people
either, so. Yeah, this is.

(10:03):
This is sickly sweet. It's way too fucking sweet.
It smells great. Holy shit.
It's like ginger concentrate. It is pretty sweet, I like it,
but it's not the best one we've had.
No. And I don't know that I can ever
make the best one we had again. That was honestly, I mean, that

(10:26):
was. AI think we used oak, didn't we?
We did. We did the Virgil cane.
Oh, we had the cherries. Yeah, I have cherries.
Trader Joe cherries and oranges and then the I think we just use
oak chips on that. You know I'm going.
To you going to twice smoke it? Yeah.
All right. We'll just see what happened
now. We're just experimenting at this

(10:47):
point. We see.
That's what we do. Literally show up and go.
What are we going to do today? Don't know.
We will find out. Get.
That. I love the way smoke disgusted.
It's like watching a campfire, you know, watching the flames
flicker. You just see the smoke cascade.
Cap that. Let that sit for a second.

(11:08):
I'll try and do one we can like share with aged and charred.
Yeah, yeah. So it's been, it's been like we
were. Fuck, it's been raining like it
has been. I feel like it's been raining
forever in Ohio. It's just won't fucking stop.

(11:34):
Like the rain is like, well, we didn't record last weekend
because shit, my basement flooded.
You you installed an indoor pool.
Well, not, not that much, but yeah, like the water didn't
reach here, but it was out by the bathroom.
So what you can't see off camera, there's a bathroom
behind the camera in a whole other room.

(11:56):
There's the whole other fucking house back there.
You. Could live in that area.
Yeah, you. Well, the whole basement set up
as an apartment so purposely. What's rent?
It's like 1300. Oh.
Yeah, pass. It's a one.
It's a it's a one bedroom. I mean, that could be a bedroom.
You hang a curtain right across that bedroom.

(12:18):
I mean, you could, I don't know.Or a massive walk in closet.
I don't. I don't know that I you.
Can make this a bedroom? Or no, that's a fuck you.
That's my bar that that doesn't come with the basement, that
doesn't come with the basement. So you walk through somebody's
apartment to get to your bar. No, they they it's 1300 just for
the bedroom. Oh, OK, that's it.
The one bedroom and one bedroom.And you're allowed to use the

(12:38):
bathroom down here if you ask permission.
Yeah. Is there a shower down here?
Yeah. Full show.
There you go. It's a.
Full bath in there. All right.
Whoa shit, that smells like. Yeah, I had to wait for a
second. God damn.
It's like super smoky. Give her.
Give her a go there. That offset it a little bit, but
damn it's better. I think it needs the yolk.

(13:00):
It's not as I think the Peach wood is, is what's throwing it
off the pear or pear, Yeah. Yeah, it's I like it.
I do like. It bad at all?
I probably should have used the different bitters too.
I used orange bitters so it's orange on orange on orange on
orange. And the pear on top of that.
And then the pear. Pear fondant to cover it all.

(13:21):
And then the ginger, which is already a super sweet.
I guess I didn't balance that right.
It's not bad though. No, it's not bad.
If I order this in a restaurant under some fancy name, I want to
be disappointed. I like it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Did I say that right? Orange on orange on orange on
five fucking oranges. Oranges.

(13:43):
Zest Juice Bitters. Orange, you glad you didn't say
banana again? Nope, Trader Joe Orange the
Orange like, I'll bet that. Orange Joe, Orange Stone, we get
done is going to be fantastic with all those flavors in it,
Yeah. God, so good.
Anyway, yeah, so basement flooded so couldn't record last

(14:03):
weekend, had to spend, ended up taking off.
It did happen on Wednesday. End up taking Thursday and
Friday off really to dry the basement out.
So you never know. Yeah, I was just saying I came
down here looking. Unless.
I didn't like inspect, but I waskind of looking around.

(14:24):
The water didn't. So the water was maybe.
Well, it wasn't standing water through the whole basement.
It wasn't a ton. So it wasn't.
Your basement flooded. I was expecting a bitch or two.
The the basement slopes that wayslightly, right?
So all the water went that way. So it was my whole my whole
office floor, it under the stepsall the way out to almost the

(14:47):
couch in the first room, the entire the entire room where the
sump pump is that failed. And then a good portion of the
back store room that's behind this wall that you guys can't
see off camera as well. That room was about half full of
water and it was probably quarter of an inch deep.

(15:12):
I mean, it wasn't, it wasn't like, oh shit, there's 4 inches
of water down here, but it was about 1/4 the quarter inch deep.
And it took probably every bit of two hours to drain the water
out of the pump. So like because the perimeter
tires were were tiles were completely full and we were
squeegeeing water back that way.Plus I was shot back in water up

(15:36):
and just dumping it right into the sun pit after it got down.
It happened before all this rainthis week though.
Like it's not good it happened. Well, it was a shit load of rain
last week though too. Like that's the.
Thing, but I I was going to say grand scheme of things.
If it failed, say you were on vacation.
Damn it. Did you just ruin your Dukes of
Hazard? Yeah, it burned a hole in it
from the fucking. I didn't think it burned a hole.

(16:00):
That's all right. I can't really say it.
I just noticed because it's in front of me.
You're going to see that every time you look at it now.
That'd be fine. It's an it's an old like.
I forgot that I even had this. This was my old sheets from
like. This is.
The the only thing I have left from like 1983 like these were
on my bed in 1983. Dude, I had do you remember the

(16:22):
get along gang? Yeah, cartoon.
I had those sheets and I'd take them to camp with me as an like
a young adult. They were still they were faded
as all get out right. They were almost white but I was
like get along gang sheets bro. Well.
Because I once I got a little older, I got a king size bed.
Yeah. And these are twin sheets.
I had no use for them. But every year I go to youth

(16:42):
camp, take a get along gang sheets.
Yeah, these, these, this is what's left of like, it's even
fraying like over here, like theseam is just right off.
But when we were down in Tennessee, we went down to
Nashville and there's a Dukes ofHazzard museum.
Right. Yeah.
We were in there and we were walking through and I was like,
I have the fucking sheets. I have that sheet.

(17:04):
It was like, yes, I know. I'm like, God damn, I got it.
I got it. Should've taken I got the
autographs. Find one of those days where
they like stop by. Oh yeah.
I know there's a cooter's garage, like museum slash.
I think it's a restaurant in Gatlinburg or something, or used
to be. And every once in a while he'd
stop in like what? I'd say every once in a while I
was like semi frequent, yeah, he'd just show up and people

(17:26):
recognize me to take. Pictures of science.
Yeah. Yeah, I was.
I was thrilled. And then as I was, I was looking
for a tablecloth to put in here as Pete.
Comments were made about the table and like, it's an old
fucking table. It was Derek.
Fuck. Fuck you, Derek.
He lives in a barn that has. I think he said we need a bigger

(17:48):
table, but the table, like, it'san old table, it's an old like
craft table is what it was used for.
So it's some paint shit all overit is. 4 by 4 I mean it's a good
size table. Well, it's got a leaf in it too.
It comes out like I wanted to. I actually want to build.
I want to take this top off and use do new legs, but use the

(18:08):
frame. The frame has like this whole
locking system and it telescopesin and out to to build another
table on top of this and maybe build it as a high boy.
Yeah. And then do it try to figure out
how to do it more as a pedestal table than a leg table.
I just have to figure out the logistics.

(18:28):
We should have stolen Mike's round table when we had the
chance. I considered it, but I thought
they were taking it with them. Who?
Cares OK what they gonna do stayin Ohio because of a table you
could have brought that down here and they didn't like screw
it where Into Utah? Yeah.
That's fine, I thought about that.
This was a good height. I hate high boys that are like
10 feet in the air. Yeah, yeah.
Climb up like I'm 61 if I got toclimb up on the stool.

(18:50):
Like it's just inconvenient. No bueno.
But I thought about it and I'm like, you know what I'll find
like I want to put another, a different table in here.
And which is why I was considering building like using
this frame. That's what I did with our
dining room table. I just use the frame of another
table. Got new legs and was able to
attach everything. Yeah.
So just do the same thing with this, upcycle it to something

(19:13):
else. But I want to get do do a new
table down here do something maybe.
Maybe try to figure out how to make it a round instead I?
Would say a round table would bereally.
Good that I can still take the leaf out of it.
And when you put it together, itstill holds like an Oval.
I'll never take the leaf out really in reality, but to be

(19:35):
able to it makes it easier to move and and have that option.
So we'll I'll figure that shit out later.
But yeah, I got got my Griswold.I saw that hockey hockey jersey
framed finally. Those frames, Jersey frames, are
not cheap. Any good frame is not cheap, but

(19:55):
yeah. That's not even a good frame.
I'm going to be on like. No, but I'm saying anything that
that I would consider that a good frame.
It's. Compared to some of the others
I've seen. Yeah, like, well.
It's a decent. Frame my my issue with that
frame is it has a super cheap Lexan glass and I call it glass
in quotes, right? So like as I was kind of taken

(20:19):
everything to to put the I like grabbed it and went like this on
the on the outside of it and it fucking popped out.
It's just like hot glued in in certain spots.
I'm like, you've got to be fucking kidding me.
It's so goddamn cheap. But I only paid 20 bucks for it.
Well, I'll say from here it looks good.
Though it looks good, then that's all that matters so.
It may fall apart, but well. Right now it looks good, fingers

(20:41):
crossed it doesn't because if itdoes I'll buy the same one on
Amazon and return that one. Right.
As oh, fucked up effective. I mean if it falls apart.
I would call that effective. Yeah, well, I mean, it's like
the same a year that because I have, I actually have that one
on my wish list on Amazon. So when I got the because I got

(21:01):
that from my sister and my brother-in-law for Christmas and
I'm like, oh, I'm going to get ahockey jersey frame now.
I should have gotten AI should have just ordered a bigger
frame. The problem is the bigger frames
for hockey jerseys are $200 because they're so fucking wide
and it's 2 frames together on a hinge and but like that's your

(21:25):
stand. That's like a 20 by 30 I think
is what that is. And it fits the jersey fine.
I just wish that like I could show the arms or whatever and no
one's going to if if you've never watched Christmas
Vacation, you never, you're not going to Griswold.
What the fuck is it like? But it's funny, so it's going up
on the wall. People that don't watch hockey

(21:45):
or no, the movie reference wouldbe like, I know Wayne Gretzky.
Yeah, that's all. Who's?
Griswold. I never heard Griswold.
All right, Clark. Or now you got Ovechkin that
broke his record. They they might have heard that
name. I've never heard that name, but
I don't follow hockey. He.
He. Broke the all time scoring
record for Wayne Gretzky and Wayne Gretzky went in person.
They want to haven't congratulate them.

(22:07):
See. That's sport.
People are like, well, you know,that was pretty cool of you.
What brought that on? He said.
Because when I broke who I forget the well, I'm not a big
hockey guy. Yeah, when he.
Broke the record. That guy was there to
congratulate him, he said. He said it's just a passing on
of the baton, it's a pass on of the torch.
And he said, why be mad about it?
Yeah, you know, I mean, there's nothing you can do about it.
You held. The record for years but like

(22:28):
the goal is to be your best and if somebody beats that,
especially after a story career like Gretzky.
Oh yeah. I mean you, when you talk
basketball, you can talk Jordan,of course, but you can also talk
Bird. You can talk Magic Johnson, you
can talk Charles Barkley. You've heard you hear a lot of
those. Dennis Rodman.
And then you get the more modernSteph Curry, LeBron, right?
Rodman. But, but I'm saying there's so

(22:48):
many names I know. Like if you don't know hockey,
yeah, you know Gretzky. They're all Canadian or Russian.
Pretty much. So I thought it was.
I thought it was cool. It's a good sport to him to
show. Yeah, it's a good sport and he
should have like it shouldn't have been.
A to be alive to see it I think would be cool because, you know,
he's had it for what, 30 years or something.
And so I thought it was pretty cool.

(23:10):
But yeah, I like the Griswold. Jersey I like the Griswold I got
my. Like when I got these sports
cards, I knew what I was getting.
Mike before he left. I've been thinking, what can I
get my ton? I'm like, well, I can't really.
Find a Porsche. You know what?
Ball card or I'll? Tell I'll tell you what you can
get me. I got a stack of baseball cards
upstairs. I'll give you before you leave
you tell me if any of them are worth a fucking.

(23:31):
They're probably all junk wax, but I will go through.
The world I will get. Time and let you.
Know I will give them to you andyou tell me if there's any that
are worth a fucking nickel. Yeah, they're probably because I
have boxes. Like that I also have Magic the
Gathering cards in mint condition now.
Here's something you might be interested.
To know. And they're Garbage Pail kids.
There's a new company, Good Segway for me that's coming out

(23:52):
with Garbage Pail Esque. I don't want cards.
See garbage. There's tops.
Is it tops? Garbage Pail Kids.
They still make. I just bought a pack of Garbage
Pail cards and I'll let me let me air some grievance on this
bullshit. I didn't.

(24:12):
I got excited. So in my excitement, I became
blind to the packaging and I didn't look at the package.
The pack of cards was $6.50. I'm like, ah, it's a little
expensive. Not compared to a lot today.
I was like, all right, fuck it. So I tapped, I tapped my card,

(24:32):
hit the, you know, whatever, F21, get the garbage pail kids.
And I looked then, then I lookedat the packaging 4 cards.
Oh yeah. I was like, what the fuck ass.
So that's I was pissed. I was so fucking pissed because
I was like excited to get like, you know what, What was the 8

(24:54):
cards or 12 cards in a pack and a fucking stick of bubble gum?
4 cards, yeah, like 4 cards for $6.50.
I was like, what a God damn RIP off.
What? I was fucking livid.
But there is one really cool looking card in there and I was
like, it's mine, I'm taking that.

(25:15):
I'm like, you weren't fucking touching these.
Like, no you ain't. This is I paid for them.
They're mine. You, you don't get shit.
So what kind is that? Which one is?
I'm still listening to you. I'm just.
Trying to find what do you mean which one is that or?
What the one you said? There's one cool style card.
It's just it's like chromatic. Oh, OK.
I got it. It's just, it's just the
whatever. I don't know the name.
I don't remember the name of it,but it's kind of like mirror

(25:37):
Chromatic reflector. That's what they.
Call it monochrome. Well, no, I don't even know that
it's really reflector as much asit is more of a black and white
monochrome with a little bit of shimmer to it.
It's not really like mirror esque.

(25:57):
Although I am super pissed because I said something to Liz.
So when we were cleaning out my dad's house, I had, I had
hundreds of Marvel cards that were in great condition.
I had four of these, I think, I think it was, it was either
Civil Surfer or Human Torch. Those were reflective cards.

(26:20):
Those were metallic reflective cards.
I had four of them. And I found out about two years
ago that those cards sold for $2500 each.
And then I reminded Liz that shemade me throw out 10 grand when
we were cleaning out my dad's house.
She's like, no, you didn't. I'm like, yes, I did.
They were because they were in the top drawer of my dresser at

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my dad's house. And she's like, get rid of them.
I don't want to get rid of them.She's like, you don't have any
fucking place to put them. And now they're worth money.
Well, they were. They're in a landfill now.
You think Beanie Babies will ever come back?
God. Well, that's.
Like 20 years from now. I don't know because I had AI
had an all black Furby that soldfor $12,500.

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They were they were hard ones tofind. 5 trucks for that.
I know you, but they were those Furby like that particular Furby
apparently was hard to find. Princess die Beanie baby thing.
Yeah, just, but I had bought it just when Furbies were, that was
in like 9899. Like Furbies were like the
biggest thing 'cause it was like, oh, they react to you,

(27:25):
They start out stupid and they get smarter.
Can't find it. Yeah, yeah.
And so I bought 2 of them. I bought one for myself and I
bought one for my girlfriend at the time.
And I gave her the this way. It was like a pink and black one
or pink and white 1. And I gave it to her and it's
like whatever. And then the other one I kept in
the box, like I never opened it,never turned it on.

(27:47):
It just was in the box and just sat on a sat on a shelf in my in
my bedroom on a on the box. And Liz made me throw that out
too. She made me throw out my
childhood other than my Dukes ofHazard.
Sheet slash tablecloth. Yeah, you just set on fire.
That I just burned a hole in with aged with charred and aged,

(28:12):
aged and charged, sorry, aged and charged.
Just it, it kind of flew out andI saw it and I just kind of like
brushed it off. And now your sheet is aged and
charged. It is.
It's smoky. It's definitely smoky, so.
I get a little bit of burnt linen on the nose, some cotton.
Smells like 80s. Polyester.

(28:33):
Oh no, this is probably 100%. Cotton.
Oh, I'm sure it is. I mean it.
It smells like 300 thread count.It smells like urine.
Right under that plant. No, these were I was, I was
beyond that stage at this point.But yeah, so.

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Well, we did some things too this week.
Yeah, what'd you do? Last night we sold the Jeep.
OK. So I'm sitting here going man, I
haven't gotten like when I for we first listed the Jeep, it was
a Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.9 Limited.
Only year it was made was 1998. Jeep and Dodge collaborated, put
in a Magnum V8 OK in a Grand Cherokee.

(29:15):
Yep, they made so it was ridiculous.
Just over 14,000 in the US. OK, so limited run already.
Well since then of course a ton are dead.
A lot of people have hacked themup over the years.
Built trail rigs. Ours was all original with the
exception the original owner. Who Exception of the oil?
Well, that pretty much, but he put a Float Master 40 series on

(29:38):
it. So it just had a light rumble.
It wasn't loud. It wasn't, you know, So we
listed it and then all the sudden I just stopped getting
messages. So I go to my marketplace and
it's gone. It's not in the relist.
It's not. There's no history of my
listing. OK, that's weird.
Yeah, that was Thursday. I was like, where did my listing
go? So I relisted Friday, OK, or

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Thursday? I relisted Friday morning like
630. I'm laying there in bed, I'm
just checking the phone, get a message.
Guy goes, hey, really interesting Jeep.
I'm like, cool, what? You know, we'll see.
Long story short, he lives in Parkersburg, WV, just other side
of the river straight down 33 and he goes, you know, here's

(30:26):
what it is. I am my business.
I check out his page, you know, and he goes, can you hold it
till Monday? And I said I can't.
If somebody shows up with cash, it's.
Gone, you send me $500 non refundable and I will hold it.
Well. Here's that's usually my.
Response Yeah, here's what he I said.
I I can't do holds if you want to put cash down on it non
refundable. Yeah, we'll talk.

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He said. Can I come up at 10:30 tonight?
I own my own business. I said that's kind of late
because it's out of mom and dad's.
We haven't like that'll start itlet it run a little.
But the battery had been acting up so he'd had it on trickle
charge and I was like 10:30 at night.
But I'm well, OK, at least it isserious.
If you're driving 2 hours to getthere at 10:39, then you have to

(31:09):
drive 2 hours home. You you're at least seeming
serious. So that was supposed this is all
Friday and then he goes, if it'slike it looks in the pictures,
I'm not even haggling on price, I'll just come get it.
So we set up for Saturday last night.
Yesterday evening, dude shows upright after I pull in dad's
driveway. Him and his wife are in a Jeep

(31:30):
Wrangler Rubicon right behind us.
They're Jeep people and him. You wouldn't understand and.
Forth, you want it? him and I messaged back and
forth and said, hey, we just went and got a new battery
because the battery's been acting up.
We found out the headlight behind the battery was out, so
we replaced that for you. We got new bags for the key fob,
just little things. I was like, I wasn't planning on
selling that quick. Dude pulls up, him and his wife

(31:53):
look at it. She gets back in the Rubicon.
We talk for a bit, he starts it up, looks under the hood.
Oh OK, shuts the hood. Jeeps run the whole time, comes
over the stack. Cash exactly as well.
Hand it to me. So I kind of, I told Beth said
double check it. She double checks that he'd
overpaid by 20. So I hand it back to him.
Boom, they're gone. Gave him the title.

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It was done. Hell yeah.
Got asking price and they it washis wife's birthday.
So he talked to her and she saidyeah, we can go.
So they we recommended Millstoneon their way home.
Yeah, Millstone's good. So they stopped.
They're going right down 30. 3 was I say.
At least it wasn't. Halfway between here and
Parkersburg or Circleville and Parkersburg, I said, dude, just
pull over. Could it?
But if you guys like barbecues, like we love barbecues.

(32:35):
Go to Millstone, don't go to Brewery 33 though.
No, they're beer's shit. So they went to Millstone
because I met them this morning and said, hey, do you make it
back OK? Oh see, I don't follow up with
myself. I did this.
I usually don't, but I did this guy 'cause he seemed real,
genuine. He's a really.
Good guy. Well, no.
Even genuine. We hadn't driven the Jeep off
that's property in months, so I was like, they jumped in without
a test drive and just took off for West Virginia.

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Well, did he leave with your plates on it too?
No, we, we got the plates. He went.
No plates. That's that's bold.
He said, oh, she'll stay behind me.
I got the title, you know? I said, hey, cool, you've done
this before. He goes, Yep, I'm good, all
right, he said. We we counted.
We saw three officers between Parkersburg and Circleville.
They won't be there on the way home.
And I said on 33, I'll be surprised to see one now.
Yeah. But yeah.

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So we did that and that was gone.
And then so that was good. And we put the the boys bunk
beds we've had for a while we put together.
So they have not like when we were kids.
They've got a queen size on bottom, little Judd has a full
size top bunk. Jesus Christ.
And then it has a twin size trundle bed.
Fuck all. Jesus.
Yeah, I had mine. Got that put together as.

(33:41):
I say the bunk beds I had were twins.
You. Got the twins in a vertical
ladder. Well no, I had so you're lucky.
Mine was set up because mine wasa wood.
But mine mine was wood. So I know that they'd like some
people will cheap out and get the metal ones.
Mine was wood and I could eitherhave the bunk beds be bed bed or

(34:01):
it could go bed and the other one was separate.
The bottom one could be separated completely.
With the ones you could separateinto two beds.
Yeah, or you can separate them into two beds all together the.
Desk or you do. But growing up, not the sound I
I did not grow up wealthy, but Ihad four beds in my bedroom.

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That didn't mean they weren't all hand me downs.
Well my king size mattress when I was growing up I just
mentioned was a hand me down. Well, I know, I know.
No, Yeah, but my my bunk beds weren't hand me downs, but I had
two full size beds. Jeez.
Like I said, living in a barn. No, but the one the house that I
grew up in in East Liverpool, the entire 2nd floor was my

(34:42):
bedroom. Oh, so you have like a?
Open. So it was, it was a Cape Cod, so
the whole upstairs was just open2 rooms.
It was 2 enormous rooms where the steps came right up the
middle. Yeah, you got one side and then
you had one side and then the front of the house those were.
Popular back. In the Cape Cod, they were, I'm
going to be honest with you, I loved it.
Like if it was three times the size that it was, I would, I

(35:05):
would, I would build 1. But Cape Cods are typically
around 1500 square foot. They're usually small, but the
house was a three bedroom house.So there wasn't a master
bedroom. Technically the master bedroom
was the one that I had, like it's the one that had a half
bath built into it, but it was upstairs.
And then the what was consideredwhat my parents used as a master

(35:28):
bath. A master bedroom was at the back
of the house and my sister had the bedroom at the front of the
house. And then there was the whole,
the whole upstairs. So I had the whole upstairs like
I had ATV up there. No, I take that back and didn't
have ATV up there when my cousinlived with me.
My uncle and my cousin lived up there in that second on that

(35:50):
second floor. They had ATV up there because it
was basically their space. But then after they moved out, I
took over and then I had like these two twin beds that I would
typically keep separated, but I can put a full size, I can put
them together and have a king size bed.
And then I had like a whole other room where like all my
shit was with like all these little cubbies and like cabinets

(36:13):
build into the walls. And then like another little
cubby area where I had like all my toys and shit growing up and
we just fucking ruin that room. Just like, it was a goddamn mess
every time. But that was the same.
Room. It was one of those rooms like
OK, companies come and shut the door.
Didn't shut the door. Shit, there wasn't even an
wasn't. Even an upstairs.
It was upstairs, but I was also a goddamn like disaster.

(36:36):
So like instead of taking shit upstairs, you would, there was a
door, you open it up to like a small little area.
You turn left and go up the steps.
I just throw shit right into thedoorway.
So there was toys up and down the fucking steps like.
It was our first house after we were in a one bedroom apartment.
I was too young to really remember.

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Kevin was born while my parents lived there and we went to a one
bedroom house they bought for 20grand.
And that whole house was probably the size of Section C
in the void. Yeah, I shit you not.
The washer was in the kitchen and the dryer was in the
bathroom. And then so it was a perfect.
This table is a square house. There was a wall right there in

(37:20):
the front half was living room. There's a wall separating the
back. And that was bedroom and over
his kitchen and a little bathroom.
Yeah. And then over the years, dad and
uncles and stuff, they came over, we built a wall separating
the front half a little. So me and Kevin had a bedroom.
But shortly after we moved to a split level.
Yeah. And when we moved in the split
level my bedroom was probably the size of the void, if that.

(37:44):
That's actually a decent sized. Bedroom it is.
It is, especially back then and.For it's also a decent size
prison cell. It was a for two people.
Great. Size prison cell but it was a
three bedroom 1 bath house and it moved in and the walls were
Pepto Bismol pink and the carpetwas bad carpet that was like the
burnt red, like brick red with the pink walls.

(38:05):
So that was the first. Just a shade of red.
It it, it was something. Thanks.
Just a shade. Of red eventually just went
became white walls and bluish carpet throughout the upstairs.
But yeah, it was AI. Remember our first TV in my room
was a black and white knob TV and then we got a VCR and we
were watching Disney movies thatwere collar Disney movies and a

(38:27):
black and white TV. And then my parents finally put
the 13 inch TV from their room into ours so we got a collar TV.
Yeah, I hadn't. Yeah, I had that first.
Collar TVI had in a room now. The main one was the wood
console. Yeah, like I still have.
Yeah, I had still works. The first TVI had had a green
tint to it and it only had threechannels or it only it had VHF

(38:50):
and UHF and I had a Nintendo hooked up to it.
Yeah. Back then you have to have
adapters and switches and. You had that little fork
adapters you had to, like, unscrew shit.
Yeah, so Rabbit. Ears on top.
So in this basement, I have a plan.
I have an idea that I want to bounce off everybody.
So The thing is, you can't see the wall that I'm staring at

(39:16):
that Randy can see, but there's a all the walls down here
basically blank at this point. There's like a like this green.
Yeah, they're all like this green.
There's nothing hanging other than there's a whiskey sign over
here that I just kind of put up whiskey.
Wu Tang got one picture in. There and the Wu Tang is just is
literally hanging by painter's tape.
Is it? Yeah I was wondering I double
backed some painter's tape on and just stuck into the wall.

(39:37):
So it'll it'll come down eventually, but not.
Much on the walls down. Here, the plan is to make this
you. You've seen office space, right?
Oh yeah, Yeah. So.
So. Tchotchkes.
It's it's not going to be 15 pieces of flair.
I want fucking chotchkes on the wall.
I. I'll I'll bring you some stuff
'cause I downsize in my space. So OK, so and I'll I'll take

(40:00):
like I just I want cool shit on the wall.
So here's my thought. Well, I've got like a chief
tobacco sign, a twisted like metal sign.
Yeah, twisted T, I've got a Texaco.
I don't want the twisted T1. It was free.
That's the only reason I have it.
I don't blame you. But so on this wall right here,
so there's a wall, it's probably7-7 foot wide.
No, it's wider than that. Well, we're going.

(40:22):
We're going with 7 just to give.OK.
That's like 10, but OK. Whatever I'm thinking about
doing, think, think about Back to the Future, the first one.
Marty walks in the Doc's house and there's fucking clocks
everywhere. On every.

(40:43):
Wall Yeah, all the different, all the.
Different clocks and everything doing a wall, either this wall
or the on the other side of it of nothing but just random ass
clocks. Like a steampunk clock.
A wood. Clock setting them all to the
same time. You just need a thrift store it
up. I know.
So that's one. That's one idea.
Here's. The thing you're going to get a
clock that's set for the right time and then every other clocks

(41:04):
will be off by like 1 just. A couple seconds Yep, it's just
it's just going to set them and just so the plan is to do just a
wall of fucking random ass clocks and it's all thrift story
shit. So fine it like it's it doesn't
have to so it'll be perfect. The second thing is I want to
get and this is this sounds fucking morbid of shit but I

(41:27):
love this idea. People's ashes?
No. Nope.
Earns. A wall of yes, no, I want to get
and I've got 1 already saved. I'm just, I got to contact the
people about it to see if I can get a little bit cheaper because
I want. So I have Legos like all over
the place down here. Like there's a back to the

(41:48):
future DeLorean Lego set that lights up like over here I got a
Porsche over there. I got a fucking McLaren that
that'll hang on the wall. The Porsche will go on the wall.
There's Ferraris and Lamborghinis and I got cone eggs
and Toyotas and Bumblebee that needs to be built.
And buying Soundwave when he comes out next month as part of
the Transformer set. And I'm debating on if I'm going

(42:10):
to pick up Optimus Prime. But I'm thinking about buying a
vintage. And I say vintage because I want
it's 84 to 90 Fisher Price rocking horse.
The plastic one, I'm going to cut his fucking head off.
I'm going to make a plate, a mounting plate, like a European

(42:30):
mount or something along those lines and mount it to a fucking
wall. OK.
Just random ass shit like Liz islike, are you fucking kidding
me? I'm like, Oh yeah, yeah, mount
that. Man cave before man.
Just random like I want cool. Like I just I just.
Like you have different themes. Different not even different

(42:50):
themes. So like like.
Your clock wall you got. Your well, yeah, the clock wall
would be one thing. But like, so there is, there's a
Barber shop that I go to now called Sycamore Barber down here
in Lancaster that they do a an amazing fucking job.
Like Kenny and Michael are fucking great.
Their walls are full of fucking Trotsky shit.
Like they bought, they found andpurchased like an original

(43:13):
Nintendo box. Not the Nintendo, the just the
box. The box is mounted on the wall,
the SNES box on the wall, license plates.
Like they just got random shit all over the place on the walls.
And I'm like, yeah, that's exactly like when I move, it's
going to be like, I'm taking a few key pieces and the rest of

(43:34):
the shit has to stay because there's so much shit on the
walls that I just can't package it up.
It just comes with the fucking house.
And if you don't like it, you take it down.
But I have Hot Wheels like in packaging that I'm trying to
figure out how to hang on the wall.
I don't want to do thumbtacks like you did at the old house.
At the old house, I used wire nail with the at the old house

(43:55):
and like set up a grid system and like, and you just take a
wire and then you just press it into the into the drywall and it
just, that's it. It just stays there.
But I don't want to do that 'cause I don't want a hundred
holes. Not that you know, just you just
roll over a paint that's done. But I don't if, if I decide to
move, I'll have to do touch ups.I don't want to have to paint an

(44:17):
entire wall just to fill eighty 9200 fucking tiny little holes
all over the place. So but the Hot Wheels are going
to go in somewhere. I'm just trying to figure out
the best way to do it that I canpreferably hang it maybe from
the ceiling and just have a whole thing that just they
interlock to each other and thenthey hang down.

(44:38):
Which I did find a system and itwas going to cost me almost a
grand for 80 hooks. You need to find one of those
stores going out of business. You know, I'm saying they sell
the racks. And yeah, let's.
See if they have those hanging things you're.
Talking Well, you can buy those on Amazon.
But when you get the story, they're going to you for
pennies. Well they're like 6 bucks for a

(44:58):
fucking 30 pack. 6 bucks versus a cent.
Well, 6 bucks, 6 bucks I'm gonnahave tomorrow.
And but they're the plastic oneslike and I thought I thought
about those as well. The problem is, is those only
hold three cars if you space them out so that you can see the
whole placard from top to bottom.

(45:20):
So you have to then staple them together.
But then it may not hold the weight like the first one's, not
going to hold the weight of likethe third one, and.
You could also do shelves for trading cards.
I have the lip, something like that.
Yeah, I thought about that. I just want to hang them.
I just want them. I just want them to hang.
But there's a something out there.

(45:41):
There's there's like people havehacked it, cobbled some shit
from like Home Depot. Like there's this molding that
has like a little groove in it that people have used.
What if you just got like a fourby eight thing of the lattice
and you attach the cars to the lattice and then the lattice you
can either hang from the ceilingor attach the wall with just a
minimal amount of holes. I could do some you get.

(46:02):
All kinds of grids and you can. I could do something like that.
I I'm just trying to like I'm just, I'm going through the
options of, of how to do this. Yeah.
So but then I've got like license plates.
I think I actually threw all my license plates out other than my
euro trash license plate from myold Volkswagen.
But I'm just trying. I just want to like I'm just

(46:24):
going to start hitting thrift stores for like random shit, I
think to try to figure out what to do down here to start
covering the walls. Like I've got shelves and stuff
I need to purchase and put up. Like back here, I've got shelves
I need to put in there so I can get some of the whiskey out,
like my double S and shit and just put it on shelves.
And like I've got the Griswold thing.

(46:47):
I got to buy another 20 by 30 frame for the Porsche so I can
hang the Porsche up. And I'm trying to debate on
whether or not when I build the Koenigs, if I'm going to hang
that on the wall or if I'm goingto display it, just display that
some other way. But there'll be a like that.
It's that smaller than the Porsche than the RSR and that's

(47:08):
smaller than the than the McLaren.
So I could just get a smaller frame, but then the wheel hooks
won't work. I'll have to like get new wheel.
Hooks. Well, the wheel hooks though if
they're 3D printed. Those ones are Yeah, that's what
I'm saying. I can cut them and move them.
You. Don't even have to cut them
whoever's 3D printing them. It was Corey.

(47:28):
Just tell Corey I need the 60% the size of that and he
literally clicks a. Button.
Fuck Corey. No, thank you.
I'm kidding, Corey. You should now.
Corey Corey's the one who printed those for me originally.
I asked him for one and he did. Like when you do 3D.
Printing in the program, you canliterally just type in 60% and
it'll downsize it and then printit.
So I should just buy a 3D printer?

(47:49):
You can just have mine here, I rarely use it.
I just don't want to deal with the bullshit of 3D printer
because that's how I would print.
Like if I was going to do the mount for the the head of the
the horse head. The the cheaper ones our self
leveling, self balancing needle drink you.
Know what? Let's keep this version.

(48:09):
You do that. I've got some Utah facts I
looked up. So you know how we did dumb laws
back in the day for Ohio? I thought, what does that look
like for Utah? You know, since Mike's going and
all that. So let me let me find him here.
I watched Happy Gilmore 2 last night.

(48:30):
I did too. Did you?
Yes, we can talk about that. We can all.
Right. So this is, we're just going to
keep the Virgil train, Virgil Cane train running because
that's what this is. Virgil Cane is basically train
themed. So this is Ribbon Rail Rye.
This was an LTE. So this is or an LTO depending

(48:52):
on how you talk about that. This is 49.6%.
So this is only 99.22 proof. This was a collaboration with
one of the breweries down there where this was stored in the
beer barrels of a chocolate malted Porter.
And this is a blend of three ryes.

(49:14):
We've done this before. Yeah.
So this is a three rye and it isa straight rye whiskey.
So that is it is 100% rye. This was released in 2020 and I
got to say like I think I have another bottle of this.
I think I have a bottle of Ash cat.

(49:35):
I got a bottle of electric owl, which I am determined not to
drink until Dave has the owner of Virgil Cane has no electric
owl left and then then I no thenthen I open it with him.
I told I'm like, I'm not openingit until I know you don't have
any and then I'll open it with you that'd.

(49:55):
Be cool if you can come on the show man, like on the I.
In person, so I sent them a message even.
If I'm not there, like if you got to travel.
There well, I was on the I was on it with bourbon hunters with
it was dude and I and and Dave when 8th notch was released and
dude had me over and we were we him and we were talking but it.
Was a call right? Yeah, yeah, it was a call.

(50:16):
Yeah. Oh, physically on.
Yeah, we'd have to do that down there.
But I told him that I had a bottle of electric owl.
I thought it was their best likeLTO that they that was that
they've created by far to date like 8th notch is probably the
second one that they the best second one they've done.
But I wasn't opening the electric owl until I knew he

(50:39):
didn't have any more bottles left.
He goes, well, I got a whole closet of them.
Like we better start drinking. See, here in Ohio, we call that
a challenge. And you sure Sir, you are to
respond. Challenge accepted.
Start drinking but I I told him that but I did reach out to them
because I finished the what I had left of the 8th notch.

(51:00):
And. And asked him, I'm like, can you
send me another one? And I never heard back.
But I think they're in the middle because there was,
there's a law in there just likethere's a law on our Instagram
account. There's a law between one post
and their most recent post. And it's like a 2 month thing
where I think maybe like they were switching, you know, social

(51:23):
media managers or companies thatdeal with because there was
nothing for a long time and thenthere was like a post.
So I don't know what's going on with that, but you said whoa, so
what's up? No, it's just the the contrast
between that super sickly sweet.Oh, and then going to a rye.
And then going to a rye was justlike, not, not a bad way, It's

(51:44):
just a completely different flavor profile.
That is, it is good. Oh, it's so good.
It's got like a it's got that chocolatey poured sweetness too.
I've. Been drinking that old
fashioned? Another rock.
And then yeah, if you got them there, I'll take another one.
I was drinking that old fashioned.
Then I was just like, OK, sip, you know, not really thinking
about it while you're talking. And I was like, oh, like, that's

(52:07):
not the same thing at all. Nope.
You know what? Delicious though, one of my
favorite rides. It is.
Oh. Shit.
Breaking stuff. Oh, that's so good.
It is. It is.
See, that was better because I Iknew what I was expecting.
Yeah. This is this is good.
So this was oh, Revelry Brewery,Revelry brewery is the is the

(52:32):
brewery they stored this this whiskey's in those barrels.
So this is it's it's it's got a,you've got that rye spice, that
pepperiness, but there is a sweetness to it that is super
subtle, super subtle. And I don't know that this is a

(52:53):
this isn't available anymore. Like you can't find this is this
was a limited time offer or a limited time edition, whatever,
whatever you want to call the damn thing.
But I think I have like 1 bottleof this left.
I have a bottle of ash cat. I know I have a bottle of ginger
in there and a bottle of electric al.
I will say VK is one of the veryfew distillers I can say I've

(53:16):
never had anything I don't love.Like I would love any bottle of
Virgil Cane on my shelf at any time.
There now that I'm and I like Virgil Cane, I'm not a big fan
of their they have their ginger.You love it.
And they have a ribbon rail rye.Love it.

(53:36):
I'm not a fan of the ribbon railRye.
I am and then they have. It's not like they have oh, you
got to get this, but I like. It if I like it, I'm just not.
It's not something like if I seeit, it's just not one I'm
typically going to pick up when I'm down down that way.
And they have a bourbon that's the same way, but they kill it
with the ginger. But I can't drink the ginger

(53:56):
straight. It has to be.
I have to make it as a mixer. I can drink it straight, but if
I drink it straight, it's got tobe on the rocks and I let it.
It has to sit for a second. Yeah, it's got to sit.
I give it a minute, let it mellow, swish it around and then
I'm good. But I still sip it and I like
sweet stuff, but I know sip it. It's not something I'm like,
yeah, let's. Go.
Oh, no, no. No.
Could I? Yeah, but I'm not enjoying it

(54:19):
then. Yeah, for what it is.
Well, you can't just go to town and and figure you're going to
enjoy something if you're just fucking chugging shit.
So but yeah, so this is a good one.
Unfortunately, you're not going to be able to find it anymore
and none of their you can't evenget 8th notch anymore.

(54:41):
Like that's off the market at this point unless they have some
that they're still sending out to people.
But Virgil Kane does a a fantastic job with with what
they do like and I I said they're not my favorites.
They're still good. Like my palate's different than,
you know, that's. What I'm saying is.

(55:03):
Like they're still very good I've.
Never had. I've never been disappointed.
No, Oh God no, no, I've never been disappointed ever.
But the the Ribbon rail Rye is asuperb and fantastic ride.
Yeah, but I haven't been disappointed by any other
LTLTOLTE. No, this shit that they my my

(55:26):
benchmark ride, my five star ride.
Still the righteous from junction 35.
Yeah, that'll never. Happen.
That was hands down the best I've ever.
Had it didn't even taste like a rye.
And before that it was the angels envy.
But now angels envy is like dropping.
Yeah, I'm not. See, I'm not an Angel Envy fan.
So I'm not at the the port finished.
I like the rye. The rye's OK, but like there?

(55:49):
Wasn't when we first tried that there wasn't a ton of rye on the
market? Well, when we first no, there
was that's a finished rye. So it's different.
There wasn't a ton of finished rye.
That's what I meant. And it's not.
A lot to compare it to. The the barrel seagrass versus I
still think the barrel seagrass because I blinded you with

(56:09):
those. The barrel seagrass is a rum
finished rye versus Angel Envy'srum finished rye.
I think barrel is better, it's 10 bucks cheaper and I think it
tastes better. It's not as put.
Up a fight over that. It's not as pungent, it's not as
strong that sweetness. Like they both have this Maple

(56:30):
syrupy pancakes in the morning waffles with butter fucking
taste to be hungry. I know, but it's not it.
Angel Envy is overpowering it. Is it's.
Strong. It's so strong and seagrass is
not so so I like it but so dude has so the bourbon hunters have

(56:54):
I'm going to promote them for a minute.
They've they have a barrel program.
Sign up for their Patreon. You can be part of their barrel
program and I think I think the cheapest 1 is 5 bucks.
Wait a second, are we taking time on our podcast to help them
again? Yes, and here's why.
No, I, I do. I love the Bourbon Hunters so I.
Just got to bust their balls because they're buddies.

(57:16):
I'm I'm part of their barrel program.
When the barrel when they come, when they come available, I
usually end up buying a bottle they have right now.
I think if you sign up, you get it's, it's $5 a month fucking
for the cheapest one. That's nothing.
Sign up, you get access. You're last to get access, but
you get access to the, the bottles, you know, that are

(57:40):
leftover. And I think they're, I think
with the $5 program, there is a chance that you could go on a
barrel pick so forever or maybe that starts at the $10.
I don't remember. But they have, we did the Jack
Daniels. I think that'll be the episode
coming out last week. They have done, we have done the

(58:06):
old Forester that I bought a fucking case of that shit.
I still have 2 bottles left likethat shit is I've been drinking
it like that's my that's been mygo to and pal dude, dudes
palette and I are are we're we're both we're pretty pretty
spot on the minix muffin. That one was a fantastic bottle.

(58:30):
So he's got an he's got a one from makers coming and Elijah
Craig barrel proof the Jack Daniels.
We did that's I've got that sitting back there and then they
have an Angel envy. Well, the envy on everyone.
I'm I'm out on that one. They will not Angel Envy will
not do just a straight bourbon. If they do a straight bourbon,

(58:51):
I'd probably be in. I don't want a port finished
fucking anything. Well.
That's finished in rum barrels. No, that's a rye.
Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.
That's what I'm. Thinking so the bourbons are are
pork barrels and I'm not, I don't I don't like I really
don't. Bad, but it's not $50 good at.
All it's not it's the port finish.
I don't like like it doesn't matter who it is.

(59:12):
I'm with you. It's but so they and he has an
Angel envy coming out. I have heard fantastic things
about the Maker's Mark 1 coming out that it's kind of coffee
esque espresso. They're 90 bucks.
So I, I, I'm like, all right, give me a bottle of the makers.

(59:33):
Give me a bottle of the Elijah Craig.
So I'll have those coming at some point and we'll we'll get
those done on the show, but go sign up for their shit.
Like dude knows what he's doing,Tyler Tyler doesn't.
I will bust. Dude stops every chance I get,
but the reality is he does. Know he know.

(59:53):
He knows what he's doing, stuff he's got.
I mean he he is A and. He's done well for for the
podcast, too. Yeah, he like he's they're
they're doing fantastic. Yeah.
And I'm, I'm giving them like a whole fucking 5 or 10 minutes
just because. This episode of the Bookworm
Podcast is brought to you by theBourbon Hunter Podcast.
Yeah, it's go to the Bourbon Hunters and sign up for their
crap and pay them money and not us.

(01:00:14):
Well, we don't have anything going on and you're not no one,
no one's listening anyway. So, but the stuff that he is
picking, I can't fucking recommend it enough though like
that. It's good fucking whiskey.
I will say that I've not had a bad whiskey from dudes
recommendations. Yeah, like that's the thing.

(01:00:34):
Like it? It's no, I won't say that to his
face. Well, that's fine, but, and he
probably won't he he only listens to every other show
anyway, so he'll probably skip this one.
That's fine. And if not I'm lying dude, I
would totally your. Stuff sucks your but it's like.
What else am I going to make funof dude for?
Like, I mean, yeah, I know. But he's fitter than I am, he's
doing better than I am. His podcast is doing great.

(01:00:57):
Yeah, well, he puts the effort into it.
Oh, that picture of him. I got that against him.
I did show him. I sent it to him.
I said, oh, I said, oh, you hadn't seen this.
I was actually at his house whenI was recording the show and I
sent it to him. That's funny.
And but go sign up for their shit because if you're looking
if if you want to get away from.We're really good at promoting

(01:01:19):
other people. I know.
Two bits. First, Rocaine.
Yeah, I know. Yeah.
I mean, that's. This episode brought you by Dude
Wipes. Yeah.
I mean I use them. Do you?
Yeah. I got them.
We're not sponsored by them at all, but don't.
Flush them down the toe. They're not fucking flush, but.
I'm gonna no wipe is flush but Idon't care what the package.
Says it does not flush. Especially have a septic system.
Don't fucking flush that. You're not flush wipes, period.

(01:01:40):
But if you're tired, like the only reason that and part of the
reason that I'm in friends with dude, but part of the reason is
if you're tired of just going tothe store and fuck yeah, they
don't have anything or you're trying to get some allocated
bullshit, Fuck all that. Go to the barrel pick route,
find a club. What it it doesn't have to be

(01:02:01):
dudes club. Go to fucking mash and journey.
Jason sees club for, you know, on you know, he pick a club,
pick up, get it, get into a barrel pick program.
Yeah, that you can that you likethat someone your pallet aligned
to them and then order their shit because you're going to get
a better experience out of doingthat.

(01:02:24):
Then you are just going to the store and buying another bottle
of fucking makers one O 1. Nothing against makers one O 1,
but you're just going to get more out of something that
someone put the effort into picking something good.
Well. And there's nothing wrong with
having what you like, but you'renever going to grow and you're
never going to explain your palate if you're not getting
introduced to new things. A good way to do that is find
somebody, like you said, yeah, which you said you endude your

(01:02:47):
pallets align. So if he recommends something,
and I know he's done the same, yeah, I agree.
Talk about something. Or you said, hey, I grabbed this
when I was in BFE or I was in DC.
Yeah, I take him shit all the time just to.
Like check this out or here's a sample, whatever.
So find something that you like.Try one on a monthly basis if
you don't like it. Don't buy it again.
Go. Find another one.
Yeah, find. Find a good program to get into.

(01:03:10):
Like I I I'm going to recommend dude and Jason C I'm matching
drunk. For for a specific reason.
I'm friends with both of them. That's my.
Reason I'm I'm not as close to either of them as.
You are. No, I know.
I'm I would recommend both of them because I think their
palate is very well versed and constructed.

(01:03:32):
They've they've been around, they've tried more than I've
tried even, and I've tried a lot.
And not only that, they're honest about it and they are in
what? They do.
They don't. Do it for profit solely.
They are trying to find what they like best.

(01:03:53):
It's not hey I like this so go buy this so I make money.
It's go buy this because it's good.
Because it's good and Jason has his own line coming out like he
has his own bourbon coming. Man, I hope it doesn't suck.
It's not going to suck. What if it does?
I'm going to, I need to, I actually I, I should probably
fucking send him a text to find out when that's coming out and
if I can get a bottle. Yeah, well, we have to.

(01:04:14):
Well, I mean it, it's not a, it's not a if I can get a
bottle, it's when, when can I get a bottle?
And what's it going to cost me? Because I don't, I don't, I'm
not that guy that asks like I donot, I do not ask for a discount
from friends. I do not expect a discount from
friends. No, me neither.
I will negotiate discounts for other people from other people,

(01:04:35):
but I will never ask my friends for a discount like how that's.
Not being. I support, I support my friends,
right? And I will support if they want
to give me a discount that's different.
Well, that's like my, but I'll never, never ask if.
You know me and you call me expecting that you're going to
get 50% cheaper rates than somebody else.
I expect when I call you, you'rejust going to knock 75% off the
entire price. I probably owe you that though.

(01:04:56):
That's different. But no, I'm with you, but I'm
not going to. If you're going to support
somebody, support them. Yeah, support them.
If you can't, that's fine. Don't act like you are.
It's, it's no biggie. But yeah, I, I.
I would support you. The only problem is I already
have people in place. Oh no, I.
I know. It is what it.

(01:05:17):
Is fuck you, Randy. Again, yes, all right, You're
going to need a lot more drinks.Power Bottom All right, Check us
on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube.
Instagram. Here's the mic moving to Utah.
No. I.
Cheers to Mike traveling safely,not to him moving to Utah.
Mike, travel safe as you're on the road.

(01:05:40):
We'll figure this out. We may be changing hosting
platforms. I only have like 2 days to
figure this shit out. There's a good chance that there
may be some radio silence on some RSS feeds on Apple or
whatever. I got to figure it out, but I'm
getting tired of paying for shitthat we're not making money on.

(01:06:01):
So Johnny Edwards just sent, sent me a text.
He's still alive. He's still alive.
But we're, I think we're changing platforms.
I may go straight to YouTube with stuff and that may be the
only place to be able to find us, or I may switch up and load

(01:06:24):
continue the same thing we're doing but loaded to Spotify for
the audio. I can do video on Spotify too,
so do. Just hang in with us.
Just just stick in there like I'm, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not
shutting it down yet, but I don't want to pay for this shit
anymore because we're not makingany money on and I'm already

(01:06:45):
like $700 in the hole in this goddamn thing.
T minus like so 5 weeks until you are done with me with Mike
not here. And that's being very, very
generous. If it's time lapsed, so but
yeah, stick around. We're we're Spotify.
Like we'll still be on Spotify at some, some way shape or I'm

(01:07:07):
going to figure this shit out. I just don't want to pay for it
anymore. And I'm looking for a free
service to host because listenership is always been
never high and spending money onsomething that we're not
getting. Like not to say they're not
getting anything out of it. Like, yeah, we've got a couple
bottles here and there. We've I've made some friends,

(01:07:29):
but at some point I would love for it to, you know, pay me back
and pay its bills. So it's going to go to a some
sort of free fucking hosting service.
Anyhow, I'm Martel for Randy. Mike, we miss you, buddy.
It sucks you're not here. And it's going to be even worse
when you have to call in becausewe got to figure that shit out

(01:07:51):
too. So.
It's not in an echoey barn with crappy.
Headphones anyway. All right, we're out later.
Bye, module. Mike and Randy raise