#448 Where Stouts Fail… Bourbon Prevails

Martelle and Mike kick things off with high hopes and a bourbon barrel-aged stout—but when that pour goes south fast, they pivot to Rhinegeist Ink before ultimately landing in safer (and tastier) territory with Penelope Toasted Bourbon. Along the way, the guys keep the banter rolling, sharing stories, laughs, and maybe a little too much honesty.Meanwhile, we’re about 72.3% sure Randy is gone.Recorded on 09/01/25, this one’s proof that even when beer disappoints, bourbon always saves the day.YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@buckhornpodcastApple Podcasthttps://podfollow.com/BuckhornPodcastSpotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2uhj7Vzq8u3SPvB01VqAh7#whiskey #whisky #bourbon #whiskeygram #cocktails #whiskygram #bourbonwhiskey #whiskylover #whiskeylover #whiskyporn #vodkasucks #drinks #beer #bourbongram #alcohol #whiskeyporn #cheers #bourbonporn #instawhiskey #instawhisky #podcast #liquor #politics #BBQ #comedy #talkshow

Episode Transcript

(00:05):
Let's start the show. Let's
keep flows like a river wide. Martel, Mike and Randy by my
side. Buckhorn tails wild as a night.
Pour another glass of. Tea welcome to the Buckhorn

(00:28):
podcast. I'm Martel and with me always is
Mike in the Utah's. Randy's not here.
He's I know he's he got something like family.
So I don't know what family is. It's like family, something I
don't know. I don't understand what what
family is like because I don't. It it sounded like his day just
snowballed. Yeah, I don't.

(00:49):
I don't have extended family. I only have Liz and the girls
and and and my sister. So yeah, I don't know what this.
Right. Well, yeah, it's like us here,
We're at. Oh, I think this went bad.
It might have. Yeah, it's it's funky.

(01:10):
It's so. But not.
No, it's like a it's almost likeit's a sour barrel.
Which one is? So this is the level 13 barrel
aged Belgian style super duper ale.
It's. Like, yeah.
Maple, Lee and sour. Yeah, it might have gone bad.

(01:33):
Yeah, I'm going to get somethingelse.
Hold on a second. Yep, you're fine.
Let's. Get rid of

(02:05):
that. OK, going with a tried and true
Ryan guys to Inc because I know it's good.
What are you watching? The Bills?
Nothing. Nope, porn.
Now Melissa's home. Oh, because that's not allowed
in Utah either. It's really not allowed in

(02:27):
Texas. I was about to say we we had
drunk mail 2028 last night or. Yesterday you should have
called. I would have recorded all right.
Yeah, we went to Oktoberfest yesterday, so.
Oh, that's better. OK.
Yeah, yeah. Ryan Geist.
Ryan Geist Ink, Imperial style now.

(02:48):
I don't know. I don't know when this one was
bottled but it's since he made and I'm looking for see if they
dated it at all just to have an idea.
Might be on the bottom. And nothing on the bottom.
It's, well, it's, it's at least three years old.

(03:13):
More than that, it's probably closer to 5 or 6.
Well, so it's surprisingly it itit, it surprisingly stood up to
I think. That's a nice thing about
stouts, so yeah. We it's lost a little bit of its
oomph, yeah. Yeah, they mellow.
The yeah, we went to, we went toOktoberfest yesterday.

(03:37):
We met a friend of Melissa's whois in the process of moving to
Utah and does. She work?
Is it the one that works with Melissa?
Yeah, she works at WGU, also different school, but she so she
and her partner were up here looking at places to live and

(04:01):
they're today they're signing a lease on a rental for the next
year while they make bigger decisions.
And so we took them up to Snowbird, which is a ski resort
here who has an Oktoberfest weekend starting end of end of
August through end of September.And yeah, like they just, they

(04:23):
just do a really good job. You know, you walk in, there's
like vendors and stuff, you know, Yeah, T-shirts and shots
and whatnot. And then like really good food
and really decent beers and so and you can buy steins and you
know, they have 3 sizes, 3 sizesof beer mugs, a 16 ounce, a 25

(04:45):
oz and a liter. And they allow this in Utah?
Yeah, and regardless of what year you bought it, if you bring
it back, you get like the discounted refills.
So, so you have, so you know, I bought my 25 ouncer because I
figure a literal get too warm bythe time I get to the to the end

(05:07):
of it because it was 90. It was 90 something yesterday,
but at the top of the mountain it was in the 60s.
Oh. That's too cold for me.
It's been, it's, it's, it's beenin the 70s here and it's been
not, it's, it's, no, I don't like it though.
Yeah, I was about to say we whenwe got there, I think it was 88,
but when we went to the top of the mountain, it was 58.

(05:28):
No, that's that's no, I can't dothat.
That's weird. Close.
I had my first. I had my first beer at 11,000
feet last night year yesterday. That's a snowsuit.
Yeah. That's my Carhartt pulled
overalls. I did buy AI did buy a new zip
up hoodie while I was there. I bet.

(05:51):
But yeah, we had a blast. We had a blast, Melissa.
Melissa started off with an Oktoberfest and then she found a
a place that was doing like, pink lemonade slushies.
And so yeah, she was, she was inin drunk mail 2028 form at one
point yesterday. Like it hits them fast, but she

(06:13):
recovers fast too. Yeah, that's fucking awesome.
Yeah, the pictures you sent lookcool.
Shit. So.
Like it's, it's surreal. They're like, you know, I mean,
most of the places I've lived are flat land.
So literally I'll walk out of a Walmart and be like, Oh yeah,
there's a fucking beautiful mountain right there.
There's some mountains. That's we went to the dog, the

(06:36):
dog park the other day and just like mountains in the background
and there's no fucking mosquitoes here.
Yeah, what's that like? Yeah, that's amazing because I
am. I'm a buffet for mosquitoes.
Yeah, I've killed one the other day that exploded with blood
everywhere. I was like, I probably got the

(06:57):
hip now. Yeah, like I, yeah, you got the
high 5, the like dusk and and outdoors and maybe just don't
get along. But we're at the dog park and
I'm just like, this is the firsttime I'm, I'm enjoying this,
this time of night in years without like smelling like DEET.

(07:23):
Yeah, I don't mind the smell of the DEET because it keeps all
that shit away from me. But well, that's awesome.
I'm I'm glad that you're enjoying yourself out there
while we're all sitting here in Ohio miserable suffering.
And then this morning we we got up early.
I had a football draft. And then after that we went to a

(07:44):
Chinese marketplace, which was baller.
I got some like crazy fucking Red Bulls I've never seen
before. Oh yeah, they have Chinese Red
Bulls. Yeah, they do.
Yeah, I ended up switching from the Ryan Geist to Whiskey.

(08:09):
The Ryan Geist isn't doing it for me.
What the fuck is that? I can't even read that.
Yeah, no, you can't because it'snot in English.
It's in. It's in CCP.
Yeah, it's it looks like pineapple citrus.
OK. And then I have no idea what
this is. Oh, that's, that's probably got

(08:32):
like 14 times the caffeine that's needed and it's it's a 5
hour energy. Yeah, I was about to say the
only it says 360 Energy Pro. Yeah, Red Bull flavored drink
and and it just says. So it's Knock.
Off. Yeah, it just says I am energy.
Yeah, that's a, that's not a 5 hour energy.
I take it back. That's a five day energy.

(08:54):
You ain't going to. Sleep, I'm going to drink this
on my day off just so if I do amawake for 48 hours I don't have
to try and go to work. Right.
Jesus that's God. That'd be scary as shit.
That's probably fentanyl in that.
Sure they had. Like they had bamboo, grape,

(09:15):
Pepsi. That doesn't sound.
I don't like Pepsi anyway. That doesn't sound good.
Like just Melissa took a video to send to our kids because
they're totally into that shit. And it was just like 22 feet of
drinks that I have never fuckingheard of before.
And. They all get tracking devices in
them. Yeah or or yeah.

(09:39):
They got Wuhan nanobots. Yeah, it was bananas.
Like we spent like 45 minutes inthere.
That's fucking awesome. I would go there.
That's cool. I.
It's like Soraga but more focused on like East Asian.
Yeah, I was up at the Tattoos Parlor, tattoo studio doing some

(10:02):
video on Saturday and the woman getting a tattoo, she's getting
the Great Wall of China done as a sleeve.
That's kind of sweet. So it's looks really cool.
I'll have the video done probably sometime later this
week, hopefully maybe later tonight or tomorrow.
I've got about 5 or 6 videos I need to get done.
But she is she works for the sheworks for the US government as a

(10:29):
liaison to China, speaks fluent Mandrin is over there all the
time. So she's just like, you know, it
just made sense that I, I get the Great Wall of China.
That's cool. But it was it was cool.
So her and I were, we were kind of chatting it up and we both

(10:51):
completely disagree with the CCP, even though that she's a
like AUS liaison and how everybody's treated over there
and, and all. But she we were talking about
like, the Chinese economy is failing, it's crumbling, and
they're trying to, they're just grasping at straws basically

(11:12):
now. Well, yeah, they have that the
the big, the big meeting right now that's going on with Putin
and what's his face from India and North Korea.
And I'm like, that's, that's an axis of power I'm not fond of.
Yeah, that's it's, it's just notgoing well for them.

(11:35):
And they they know it. And they also have too many
guys. I was about to tell they're
finally running into the problemof like, Oh yeah, that whole
like. Too many Dicks and not enough
chicks. Yeah, we don't.
We don't. We don't like girl Childs.
It's kind of catching up right now.

(11:55):
Yeah, how'd that work for you dumb fucks?
So we were. Talking about you got a great
army but not in 10 years. Yeah, they won't have an army.
They physically, they, there's the if there's a really good
chance because of just like their beliefs that in 25 years

(12:20):
to 40 years, like Chinese peoplewon't exist if they, because
they don't believe in dating outside of the race, like
outside of their, their race andtheir, their ethnic and their,
their religious. So because I dated a Chinese
girl when I first moved to Columbus and her parents fucking

(12:40):
hated me. Like they called me Guilo which
is. Foreigner.
White Devil. Yeah.
Which it's pretty accurate. There are about 25 more males
than females in total populationin China.
Yeah, they just, so they just lifted about five to seven years

(13:02):
ago, I think they lifted. One child.
The one child rule and now they're increasing it to a three
child rule because they're trying to their population is
dwindling. But but that like that was some
of the shit that her and I were talking about and then so it's
cool shows, but she lives in DC and flies out here to get her

(13:26):
tattoo work done. That's see, that's clearly,
that's a sign of a good tattoo artist, right?
Right. And I just, he's got a, you
know, Speaking of that. So I got a bunch of videos I'm
working on for them that I need to get moving on.
And he's got a guest artist coming in October, which is

(13:48):
going to be really cool. So I figured I'll be up there
for both days while that guy's there kind of doing video and
stuff while. So we'll do that.
And I didn't, I mentioned it earlier.
You walked away. I switched to Penelope.
I'm I'm on to the whiskey. Yeah, that's what you said, I
heard. Yeah, so this one's good.
The Rhine Geist isn't. Isn't doing it for you?

(14:11):
No, it's not hitting. It's not hitting those buttons.
No, I did. So the last couple of times I've
tried to drink bourbon, it's been the same thing.
It's just like, I think I want it and then I start sipping it
and I'm like God damn it, this is not doing it for me.
Yeah, I've had those nights. I usually switch the bourbon so.

(14:32):
Like, and then so I've picked up, you know, a couple beers
here and there, but the only ones you can get in grocery
stores are 5%, right? Which is, yeah, they taste like
beer, but it's like when when your iced tea's been sitting too
long and the ice has melted a little bit.
They taste like watered down it.Still tastes like iced tea, but

(14:54):
it's not quite iced tea. And so like the other day we
were doing some running around and we were up by our house,
which I'll update you on in a second.
And I was like, I need to run into the liquor store.
She was like, why? I was like I I need not 5% beer.
Yeah, like. I I need to get something that

(15:14):
isn't I? I I need something stronger?
That's right. That's your downfall of being
out there. Like that's your kryptonite.
It's not having any like A7 or an 8 or a fucking.
Easily, easily available. Yeah.
Like I can't just run into the supermarket and pick up, you
know, like Rhengeist Truth or, you know, like anything like

(15:35):
that And so. Yeah, for you.
Yeah, it's, it's, you know, likeit's a weird, it's a weird
compromise, I guess. You know, like there are some
things that I really like, but it's, it's like a giant pain in
the ass to get something that isn't a lawn mower beer, right?

(15:56):
And when you go into the liquor store, the other thing that's
weird is that everything is priced individually so you can
buy it. A can at a time.
No you but no, but you can. You can buy a six pack but it
doesn't give you the six pack price, it just gives you the can
price or the bottle price times.6 so yeah.

(16:17):
You'd be like, yeah, so you go in and you're like, Oh yeah,
that's $1.54 in math thing. It's 10 bucks.
All right, great. Way too much.
That's too much work. Right.
But it's so I was like, all right, this is also great
because anything's a single. So I went in and I bought 5
different beers. Hi Mel.
Like, yeah, we're, we're going to try all the things.

(16:40):
She walked. Behind you, she'll be out in a
minute to say hi back. And so, yeah, that's when I went
in and I was like, oh, let me gosee what bourbons they have.
All right, cool. They have the Angels Envy Rye.
They do have the Penelope toast and they had a bunch of it,
which is so I'm not worried about going back in to not get
it. Right, well, it should be that

(17:01):
mean the the the toaster should be readily available.
Well, should be readily available.
It's not like a an allocated piece.
What the fuck was I going to say?
Oh, the rye. I mean, we checked it here at
OHLQ and it wasn't showing up onthe website, but I walked into

(17:22):
Kroger and there was a shit loadof it there.
That's weird. High Drunk Mail, 2028.
That was yesterday. That doesn't mean it can't be
today. Well, it's still early.
I got stuff I got to do first. Yeah.
So. So now that she's back in
office, she's been bringing in Trader Joe's like treats and

(17:44):
they've been such a hit that she's now been told to continue
to bring them in and just expense it.
That's awesome. Yeah.
I mean, that's. She's like, no, you just, you
just keep bringing this stuff inand expense it.

(18:05):
Yeah, no, we're serious. Do you want me to just put in?
Do you want me to have it delivered too?
You're right. So, so she's like, so I got to
make a Trader Joe's run today because we need groceries and I
need to, I need to resupply work.
I'm like, that's fucking amazing.
I'll take that. That work.
So how does that work with Mel going because obviously you get

(18:28):
a you get a an employee discount.
Does she have a card that she presents or do they just move?
Love you, see you. No, she just says, hey Mike.
CML. She just says hey my husband
works for Trader Joe's and they generally they ask like oh which
one does he work at? And she'll tell them and.
I'm going to do that. I'm going to be like, my

(18:50):
boyfriend works for Trader Joe's, but which one is he
working at? One in Utah.
It's Mike. It's Mike.
It's Mike, Yeah. It's Mike.
He's a boy and he's my friend. Ruby.
Ruby's like mom, don't leave, don't leave.

(19:11):
Somebody had the audacity to getout of a car out on the other.
Street. Yeah, she's not used to that
yet. No.
So I bought a MacBook yesterday.Did you?
It'll be here on Wednesday. 2700. $2700 yeah.

(19:32):
After tax, yes. OK.
So I ended up with, so I, I, I kind of weighed my options and
this is thrilling for everybody listening.
So the issue is my Windows machine is not able to process
the raw files from my camera with Lightroom.

(19:53):
And it's an Adobe problem, right?
I fucking hate Adobe. I hate Adobe with every essence
of my being. I have to deal with them at
work, I have to deal with them with photography shit and I and
I don't have to deal with them with with photography stuff.
The problem is it's learning a new software.

(20:16):
It's a pain in the. Ass.
It's a pain in the ass. I've been using Photoshop and
Lightroom and Adobe products forevery bit of 20 plus years.
I know it like it's but I hate subscription model stuff and.
It's it's second nature and to to switch over to something and
to relearn everything like kills, kills your your time

(20:40):
ratios, Yeah. So, but I'm going to have to, I
think at some point I'm going tohave to do it.
I don't want to continue to pay like I'll probably pay again for
the subscription model this yearfor Lightroom and Photoshop.
I don't. I don't, I don't pay for.
And else. Yeah.
And then be on the hunt for likeuse DXO or Capture One or

(21:01):
something, something else that can do all the stuff that I need
to do. And whatever that learning curve
is, do it. But so I bought a Mac and I was
weighing between a Mac Studio. So the desktop version with the
36 gigs of RAM and a terabyte hard drive.
And it was going to be $1800 forthat out the, you know, walk not

(21:24):
out the door, but after tax, youknow, it's going to be whatever
or getting a 14 inch version or 16 inch version.
So I, I kind of went back and forth.
I have to have, I wanted to haveat least 48 gigs of RAM or at

(21:45):
minimum, like that's for me, that's, that's what I need.
Like 2018 not enough 1636 not really enough 48.
That's that's where I need to bein it.
And with the way that because the software is made for the
hardware or vice versa, Mac doesdo a much better job of

(22:06):
processing where Windows is a hodgepodge of here's hardware
and here's the software and. Let's hope they work.
Fingers crossed things are goingto work, but that's one of the
things. So like my my gaming laptop now,
it does a really good job. It's just getting very laggy
with the Adobe stuff. And it's because of the

(22:28):
subscription model and Adobe's continuously updating things and
they're updating it for the latest hardware available.
So my machines six years old I think.
So yeah, it's you. Know and it's it's starting to
fall behind yeah, it's starting to fall behind.
So it's just it's bullshit. I hate it.

(22:51):
So I, I, I weighed out my options.
I ended up like, OK, I'm gettinga laptop I'm just going to go
back and get a laptop. You know that way I have it when
I travel. I really wanted the 16 inch, but
I went with a 14 inch solely based on price.
So the 16 inch was going to be about 330-3100.

(23:15):
I think about 3 grand. When it was all said and done.
The 14 inch was 2800 for it. It's a terabyte hard drive it
and you can't change the configuration.
Like that was the other thing. I was talking to MO and he's
like he's like get rid of the terabyte hard drive, get the
512, do everything off of, you know, portable hard drives.

(23:37):
And I'm like, why do that now? But I can't change the
configuration. The configuration is a minimum
of a of a terabyte hard drive, 48 gigs of RAM and the M4 pro, I
think it was the 16. There's like a there's like a
12A14A16A20 and a 30 or some shit like that.

(23:58):
Whatever the but it was like runit like right down the middle.
I found Micro Center had it for $2500, so $300 off what was
around sale at $2800 from $3200.And I walked in the Best Buy.
I went to talk to I, I stopped in earlier yesterday, talked to

(24:20):
a guy, went back in. He's like, hey, you're back.
I'm like, Yep, I, you know, toldyou I'd probably pull the
trigger today. And he's like, well, I'm busy,
you know, let me get, you know, let me get my manager to help
you. So the manager helps me and I'm
like, can you price match this from Micro Center?
And he goes, let me, he goes, let me talk with the store

(24:41):
manager. He goes, because we don't price
match Micro Center because they purposely undercut Apple to get
product or to get sales. And I said, well, I said, let's
just save us both a bunch of time.
If you don't price match it, I'mgoing to drive to fucking
Cleveland to buy this thing. I said it's only a 2 hour drive

(25:05):
away. It was, it was like Sharon
Heights or something. Just like outside of Cleveland.
It's two hours away. I'm like, I'll just drive up
there and get it and he's like, I'll be right back.
He comes back. He's like, yeah, we'll do it.
Absolutely, we'll do it. I'm like, cool.
So put $500, you know, down and then put the rest on my Best Buy
card. It'll be here Wednesday and then

(25:28):
I'm back on a Mac again. Nice SO.
I'm looking forward to it. It was I I when I had my MacBook
probe previously, it worked really well.
Like, and that's the thing. Like I get that why people don't
like Macs. Like Mac users are pretentious
assholes for the most part. The same thing with iPhone users

(25:52):
And well, hey, that's me. Hold on, nevermind.
But no, that that like dedicatedMac users come off as like
pretentious pricks. And I, I, I get it, Like I was
not a Mac user for a while and Iwasn't always an always had an
Android phone, always had an iPhone.

(26:13):
But it just, it's because the software is tailored to the
hardware. It just works.
Better. Better like you don't have to
worry about like, oh, is this a piece of software going to work?
Because, you know, there's 1800 different Windows machines and
they had to like do a generic version of this.

(26:36):
Whereas with Mac it's the same thing every time.
And they seem to last forever. That's the other thing.
They seem like I was when I was talking to movies, Like I've had
my, my Mac studio for eight years or 10 years or whatever it
was. Or is he, it was a laptop.
He just bought a new laptop for travel and he'd had like a
previous laptop for like 10 years and it just now started

(26:59):
getting laggy with software. So I'm like well fuck, all
right, I didn't want to spend the money but I couldn't pass up
the $2500 and the 18 month no interest same as cash shit.
Yeah, that's great. So hate me if you want, I don't

(27:22):
care. Not you.
Everybody else listening eat shit.
So I want to talk about this Penelope toasted.
So I bought this on a whim. It is a it is a four year old
toasted bourbon whiskey from Penelope and Penelope that does

(27:45):
great stuff. So Penelope, I believe is luxe
row. I've had their architect series,
which is really good. I've had I've had something else
from them. I think I've had their cast
strength like a a version of their cast strength is really
good. So I went in to buy it was out.
I I did a charity work. I shot a charity workout and was

(28:08):
up in Pickerington was like, well, I'm right here by Kroger.
I'll just run into Kroger real quick and get a bottle of double
oaked Woodford. Like that's what I want.
I want. I haven't had it in a while.
I'll get a bottle of that. This I hadn't seen this before.
So I picked it up and they were the same price.
So this is like I said, it's a four year old.
It's a char 4, char 5 toasted and it's 100 proof.

(28:32):
It is such an easy drinker that I've already drank half the
bottle. Like I opened it the day I got
it. I wasn't waiting for anybody to
to try this. I was like, I opened it the day
I got it and it does say that. It says the toast on it.
Like so it says. It says char, toast and proof

(28:56):
like across the bottom of the label.
The word heavy on the toast looks like honey.
Yeah, a little bit. So Liz was like, I want to try
that. It says honey on it.
And I'm like, honey. She's like, yeah, on the bottom
of the label. I'm like, oh, no, that's that's
that's it's heavy. It's got a heavy toast.
So like right off the bat I had the the first, the first pour I

(29:20):
had of this when we started after I switched from the Rhine
guys with an ice ball in it had I hate pink bubble gum, but it
wasn't your tip. It was like 1980s pink bubble
gum. Not it was like big league Chew,
not your not like a stick of this shit coming out like a

(29:42):
baseball card, but it was like it was like 1980s big big league
chew. It was good, but even on the on
the nose, it still has that big league chew like that nose, but
it's not overly sweet. It's got more of a it.

(30:03):
It has that toasted barrel. Like vanilla?
Yeah, like the vanillas and the caramels come out.
You don't get any of that pink bubble gum or big league chew
like on on the tongue with the mouth experience.
It's just, it's straight, like kind of a well, hold on.

(30:28):
It is your classic, your classicbourbon notes.
You get vanilla, you get, you get that toasted oak.
It finishes with almost like a very it's weird, a wet tannic

(30:50):
feeling. So you know how you have like a
super dry wine and it just sucksall the moisture out of your
mouth. It's almost like that, except
and like I said, it's weird. It's it's, it's, it's that dry.
You get that dry, that dryness on the on the tannic, but it

(31:11):
just continues like it's like a,a moist, A moist tannic.
That's all. That's the best way I can
describe it because it's not, itdoesn't feel like it dries your
mouth out, but it has that feeling.
But it's got all your classic like vanillas and caramels and
but it's it's it's it's weird. It's like pink bubble gum,

(31:32):
vanilla, caramel, a little bit of brown sugar, tanaky but not
mouth drying outness that we'll go with that.
That's good. It's really good.
So I I would say pick it, go back to that liquor store and
pick up a bottle. Although they may charge you by

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the the milliliter so. That breaks, Yeah.
It's like, oh, this is only $0.99, now it's $0.99 a pound.
God damn it. It's.
Well, I already have to register, I guess I'll buy it.
Yeah, but it's good. It's part of their Toasted
series. So it's a that that's, it's
definitely one to pick up. And then just recently I, I send

(32:15):
it to you and you and Randy the I, I just happened to run into
Giant Eagle down here in Lancaster.
They had two cases of Bland's, which whatever, didn't bother
buying a bottle. They had.
He had like 4 or 5 bottles of EHTaylor small batch and then he

(32:38):
put out the guy. It wasn't, it wasn't the, the
normal guy there that his name is Brian.
This guy's, I don't, I can remember this guy's name was I
picked up a bottle of Booker's and Booker's isn't allocated in
Ohio. So it's, you can buy as many as
you want, no questions asked. And so I, I grabbed a bottle of

(32:59):
Booker's and I, I grabbed the bottle, EH, Taylor and I go up
and the guy goes, Hey, he goes, how is that bookers?
I'm like, well, that's really good.
Like it changes quarterly though, like, you know, keep
that in mind that it's a different, it's the same mash
bill every time, but quarterly it is different.
It is different in, in the age of what's in in the bottle.

(33:20):
It's different in its proof. It's different in its flavor.
It changes radically quarterly. I said, so I, I would buy a
bottle and try it. He goes, he was, hey, because I
appreciate that. He goes, I might just do that.
He goes, do you want more than one bottle?
He goes, I've got three more cases back here and I'm like,

(33:40):
no, I'm good. I don't, I don't need, I got, I
got a bottle like, yeah, I buy 1A quarter.
I'm good. I think I've got 123456.
I've got 7 bottles of Booker's sitting back there, plus one
little book. So I think I'm good.

(34:01):
Good for the moment. Yeah, and I finished off a
bottle like I, I, well, didn't bottle kill it, but I finished
off a bottle of Booker's just recently that I think I'm going
to turn into a Booker's Infinitybottle.
Nice. So all the booker's that I have
left, every time I open one, I'mgoing to take about two oz out

(34:23):
of it and pour it into another booker's bottle and then just
create this booker's Infinity bottle with two oz out of every
bottle that I can always get my hands on.
So that'll be, that'll be an interesting experiment to try to
keep running and see how that, that goes, provided that I can
continue to get because for whatever reason, this is the

(34:45):
first time we're second time that Lancaster's gotten booker's
in the past 2 1/2 years or threeyears that I've seen it.
I always have to drive like overto Groveport or up to Columbus
or someplace else to, to get bookers.
And it's probably 1 of it's one of my, I, it's one of my

(35:07):
favorites. Like I've never, I've had
bottles that are better than others, but I've never had a bad
bottle of bookers. So if I can keep that up,
that'll be a pretty good little experiment to to mess around
with. You should see if you can get
bookers out there. Yeah, it didn't Look.

(35:28):
I wonder if it's allocated here that.
'D be interesting. I, I'm, I'm interested to see
what you can get versus what we get with the, with how, I don't
want to say possessive, how controlling Utah is with

(35:48):
alcohol. I mean, you're going to get the
basic stuff. I mean, there's no way that they
can't, they can't keep everything out.
So you're going to get like all the basic shit.
But what about like like how readily available is Buffalo
Trace or how readily available is Blanton's or EH Taylor or a

(36:11):
product from Buffalo Trace that is a normal product, not like a,
not like an Elmer T Lee or right, you know, Weller Green,
you know Weller Green where you know what's the availability.
Of the map or. Red.
So I'm just it's more out of curiosity than anything else,

(36:32):
like is it available? How readily available is it?
Because it's like Derek always has eagle rear.
Like there's one story he goes to and it's he's always has
Eagle rear out in Oregon. Mike went full serious mood.

(36:57):
Yeah, sorry. I want to sign into the
allocated, see if there's anything allocated coming right
now. So they actually have an
allocated section where they tell you what's coming.
Well, you have to sign in, that's fine.
You have to. You have, yeah, you have to

(37:19):
register to win high demand products.
Well, this is no different than the Ohio lottery system.
Yeah, the bottle lottery system.So their last their last
drawings that they have listed was for Old Forester Birthday
Peppy Van Winkle and an Antique Collection 2024 and a Pappy Van

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Winkle on Sazerac Antique Collection 2025.
So that was Eagle Rear 17 year George T Stag Pappy Van Winkle
10. Pappy Van Winkle 15 Pappy 20
Pappy 23. Damn.
Pappy, 12. William.
Allure. Weller.

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So they were. That sounds almost like B Tac
getting into. B Tac Stuff, Thomas Handy and
Sazerac, right, 18. Year, yeah, that's all.
That's all B tac stuff. That's the antique.
Question the Sazerac ride. They only had 12 bottles and
they had 4500 entries, almost 4600 entries.
They tell you how many bottles. Hey take note OHLQ.

(38:27):
Pappy Van Winkle, 15 near 10 bottles.
Forty 4700 entries. Holy shit.
Well, I mean, that's 4700. That's kind of that's that's
light. That's.
Yeah, that really is like in Ohio, that'd be 47,000.
Yeah, that would because everybody, they people figured
out how to game the system, which is bullshit.

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Let's. See.
Let's see if I can look up Weller.
See, I want, I want I want antique one O 7 Like I have a
bottle. I like it, but I won't open this
bottle until I can get another one and I'm not paying secondary
for it. Like I think my neighbor has a
bottle and I think he has it up for sale or he would sell it to

(39:10):
me. But I'm not going to pay 120
five $150.00 for this shit. Like it's just not happening.
So that it's under the category Special orders that it's
unavailable slash limited distribution.
Well, antique. Interesting.

(39:32):
It's not really. That's the thing like Buffalo
Trace needs to Everybody likes one O 7.
Everybody tolerates special reserve.
They need to remove special reserve from their rotation at

(39:52):
the distillery and put one O 7 in its place.
So Buffalo Trace is a is a limited distribution.
Oh, just the the Buffalo Trace whiskey.
Just plain Buffalo Trace. See, that's one that I always
end up picking up just because so that I have it sitting
around. Right, that's what I say.
That's the reason I have 2 bottles of it.

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I've got 1/2 I got I got a big bottle, I got one up on in the
display and I think I got two more under the cabin.
Yeah, I was about to say, I think I have.
I have half of a big bottle and a small bottle that we got on
the bourbon trip. Yeah, is what I have.
Left And then I have minis. So I've got a mini of Makers, a

(40:39):
mini of Woodford, a mini of Jim Beam, a mini of Buffalo Trace, a
mini of Blanton's Red, and then Sean's trying to give me his his
mini of Blanton's, which I told him that I wouldn't take it, but
I may end up bringing it over here and just put it on display.
Just. Little little airplane bottles,

(40:59):
That's all. That's all those are.
But then there's I got Basil Hayden, which I'm going to give
to my neighbor because I don't like it.
And he's he's a Basil Hayden fan.
I will say get a hold of Dude and order one or two bottles of
that Maker's Mark espresso. Yep I I did get a hold of them.

(41:21):
I just have to get my shit together and get a shipping box

and everything at a U PS (41:25):
label OK?
All right, Yeah, Cuz, yeah. You said you have a ton left.
Yeah, I think I'm going to pick up two more of those.
It's so fucking good. Like it's ridiculously good.
Want to? I want to drink.

(41:45):
No, sorry, I got to go to the bourbon closet.
No, you're not good. I almost poured some of the
backwater, the backwash blend, the the one that I put together
from the old Forester tasting experience the dude had there.

(42:06):
We. Go doesn't work.
Last night and then ended up going with the what did I do
last night Shit, I don't remember what I drank last
night. Oh, Elijah Craig, the Elijah
Craig barrel pick. Nice, which I like.

(42:28):
But if I were going to tell you to get the look at you, if I if,
if, if you were, if I was said, hey, between Elijah Craig and
Maker's Mark, get the Maker's Mark.
Yeah, it sounded amazing so. Like the Elijah Craig barrel
proof is it is good. It does not mix well with other

(42:53):
stuff including its own barrel proof.
Like if you're switching between1:00 or the other it doesn't mix
well. It just meaning like if you go
from, you know, an A 924 to the bourbon hunters, it brown code

(43:15):
it it taste off. But if that's all you're
drinking for the evening, it's perfect.
Which are a 924 and brown code bourbon.
So I can. Really good.
So I can special order stuff where high demand and allocated

(43:37):
products cannot be ordered through the special order
program. Beers with an ABV below 5.1 or
below 5.1 cannot be fulfilled. You have to check the product
locator to ensure the product isn't already available in the
stores. Barrel Orders are subject to pre
approval by the supplier. May not have be available to all

(43:58):
consumers. So by the supplier.
So I might be able to order a full barrel of something.
That would be. Interesting.
And if you special order something, you have to buy the
whole case. That's easy.
I would do that if it was something I wanted to be like,
Yep, give me the case. Yep, well, I'm just there's only

(44:20):
6. Bottles so.
Yeah, like if in Middle W out here and I just had to order a
fucking whole case in Middle West.
What a shame. And that's only, I mean, that's
what the 30, we'll call them $30.00.
So 3060120200 bucks for the the run-of-the-mill.

(44:41):
And let's just call it $600.00 for cast strength, which
they're, they're less than. I know they're less than $100
for cast strength, but just round it up and make, make that
math easier. Hell, yeah, I would do that.
I do that. And I I wouldn't even think
about that, Elizabeth. Like, my God, I'm like, here's
the thing. Yeah, like I can't get it.

(45:04):
So I. Can't get it.
And if it's so that's interesting.
I wonder, do they do, does does Utah's liquor control, do they
do like a maker's barrel pick? So like, you know how we have
the stave program? We we get the staves.
Does does Utah have their own stave thing?
I don't know. Mike, I think I just found you a

(45:26):
new job. Yeah, right.
Working for Utah Liquor Control.Boy, things would be different.
Right. I mean, you'd have to do
everything else but shit. Speaking of makers, like I have
a book, The Bonfire, which was an OHLQ 2023 and you know, it's

(45:54):
that's the one thing that OHLQ didn't really fuck up.
Well, they can't, that's the thing like that's the best part
about like OHLQ cannot fuck up amaker's pick.
They can't fuck up a bullet pickand they can't fuck up a middle
W pick because it it is what it is like middle W is like Nope,
this is what you get and all of the shit that comes out of

(46:16):
middle W is good makers. It's basically predetermined.
Yep. I mean, it's this is what you
get and bullet is kind of the same way.
They're like, OK, here's. Here's our cast strength.
We can have this barrel. Yeah, you can have this barrel,
this barrel, this barrel, they're all good.
And if you don't like it, then so that's it.

(46:38):
But everything else just is not.Like everything the OHLQ does is
shit. Like, I don't understand why,
and I really wish I would have been on the episode when OHLQ
was on the Bourbon Hunters because they gave me a shout
out. They're like, I don't know who
this Martel guy is. Like, just say hi, he'll love

(46:58):
it. Whatever.
I would have rather been on the show to just ask them, you know?
But how? But how?
How do you do so bad? It's something that is so easy,
like we've been on you and I've been on a barrel pick.

(47:18):
It wasn't hard. No.
It wasn't like it's not rocket science.
How do you pick the worst thing on the planet?
Because they do it every time. Still with you?
Like, that's the question. Like what?
What? Like how?
How do the people who go on like, OK, if you've never tried

(47:40):
bourbon before? All right, you're coming with
us. Yeah, that's got to be it.
Like if there's it, it can't be something where they're just
like, yeah, we know what we're talking about.
This is, this is going to be great, OK.
This one's really good. This is #4 this one, you know,
I'm not feeling number #2 #3 is all right.

(48:02):
Five's OK. Yeah, yeah.
Three. Yeah.
Give me the worst one. Give me two.
Yeah, yeah. I thought, you know, I thought 4
was the best, but give me 3. Give me the worst.
Fucking barrel. This one tastes like nail
Polish. Remover.
This tastes like pickle juice and nail Polish remover.

(48:22):
Give me that one. That's I guess that's the worst
one, so. That's how we're going to do it.
I've had pickle juice before, sowe're going to go with that one.
This tastes familiar, yeah. Tastes like growing up.
Tastes like turpentine and turpentine with mothballs.

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So let's let's take this one. This one's this reminds me of my
childhood. We got 6 barrels to prove.
Did you pick from? Cool.
I have a I have. I have one set of die that I
brought. I brought a 20 set 20 side die
and it only has one number on it.
Yeah. It's got 2 numbers on it, but

(49:06):
nineteen of the numbers are the same.
I want your last five barrel picks.
The the last five groups that did a barrel pick, I want their
last choice. Give me their rejects.
Give me the last choice from those five and I'll pick from
one of those. All right, I'm going to, you
know what? I'm going to look into Utah's.

(49:27):
I'm going to look into Utah's Liquor Control Agency and see if
they have any job openings for liquor connoisseur.
Just something, maybe I can juststart hodgepodging a bunch of
jobs together. That 'd be fun.
We are proudly in Utah. This.

(49:51):
Still though, look at that. God damn it.
It's a pretty color. It is a beautiful toasted amber.
So we're at 50 minutes. I still have to edit this show
to put it out tomorrow. Cool.
We can end this, or we can just keep.

(50:15):
I still have a little booze left.
Keep keep chitter chatting. I may go on a a whiskey walk
tonight too. I was telling Melissa about
that. I was like, I can't wait to Oh
yeah, Speaking of the house, I can't wait to do that in my new
neighbor. So.
Tell tell us about the house so you're you're building.
So the we went last week and they had the drywall put in.

(50:37):
OK, so you know I can no longer walk from the closet to the
hallway to the to the next bedroom.
So you can you can start seeing things actually forming instead
of trying to figure it out. Yeah, exactly, Exactly.
So now you're like, you know, I think we do have more room in
the basement than we thought, but you know, whatever.
And so we went, we'll start withthe mail.

(50:59):
So we had all of our mail forwarded and when we were
talking to the US post service, they're like, look, if you're
planning on buying this house, that's great.
You can just forward your mail to that address.
OK. Because it's not built yet,
we'll just hold it at the post office here in South Jordan and
you can come in like once a weekand pick it up.

(51:21):
So after we had been here for a couple of weeks, Melissa goes to
the post office and they're like, oh, we don't have anything
here yet. Sometimes it takes two or three
weeks. Don't worry about it.
Completely normal. Well, all right, fine.
So the next week I go back, they're like, Nope, we still
don't have anything for you. So Melissa goes back like 4 days

(51:42):
later and they're like no, no, still nothing.
And so I go in like that, like the next, my next day off, which
was a Monday and I'm like, look,this is what happened.
This is what they told us to do.And like the guy at the post
office was pretty cool. He was like, let me talk to your
postal carrier, you know, maybe he knows, but we've got nothing
here. Turns out they've been

(52:04):
delivering to the mailbox. Now it's not at the house.
We have a bank. We have one of those mailbox
banks where you froze or you're just very still.
I'm just fucking with you. OK, that was well done by the
way. I was getting itchy.
Yeah, I was about to say that was that was impressive.

(52:24):
So he's like, Nope, they've beendelivering.
So we had them pick it all up. I got like a fucking bag like
this. Holy shit, so you feel like
you're father-in-law? You're right around Christmas.
You're right. So they have been delivering
since that banquet up. So like far before, because you

(52:46):
know, we had like the December 2024 like neighborhood flyer and
like, I was like, some of this shit's like a year old.
So they're like, you know, that that bullshit that you get to
current addressee or current occupant, All that shit was in
there. And so when I go to pick it up,

(53:08):
the woman's like, actually, you know, here's your key to the, to
the bank, you know, your box #3 So the street we're on is a dead
end. And so at the, the head of the
street, there's a mailbox bank at the end of the street there's
2. And so we're like, cool, we have
our keys. So we go to the first one.

(53:29):
Like key doesn't even go into box 3.
All right, clearly this isn't ours.
Go down to the end of the streetand like that key doesn't fit in
this number 3. Go to the next bank, key fits
in, doesn't turn like son of a bitch.
What the fuck? So if I, I bring the key, I
tried calling and it's useless. So I'm like, I'll just come in.

(53:49):
So I go in, I'm like, hey, got these keys, says in box #3 but
it doesn't say what Bank of mailboxes I'm at.
I was like, there's one at the head of the street, there's two
at the dead end of the street. The guy's like, all right, let
me get your name and number. Well, I'll have the mail carrier
check out. He was like, sometimes it's just

(54:09):
a simple lock, so sometimes if too much gets stuffed in there,
the lock won't turn. So I'll have the mail carrier
check it out. So he calls me back like 3 days
later and he's like, mail carrier went out, box opens
fine, no issues, key works perfectly.
He goes but you know how you said you had those three banks?

(54:30):
I'm like, yeah, he's like none of those three years.
Oh my God. He's like, so when you go in the
alley to get to your garage, there's a bank there, your box
#3 of that one. Holy shit are you?
Why can't you just? Right, so, so like, this is
like, we're going to go get our fucking mail.

(54:51):
So we went this past Thursday. We're like, holy shit, we can
get mail now. Like the saga is solved.
We can finally get mail. We know where it's going.
And so we we swing by the house,which we do once a week.
Yeah, you stay on Friday. I, I you know what?
As a suggestion, go to the house.

(55:11):
More than that. We're going to.
I I I just from building a housein previous experience, if I
could have been there every day,I would have been there every
day making sure they did exactlywhat.
We've already we've already has like we went in after they did
the drywall and we're like, hey,they were supposed to leave

(55:33):
cutouts for the pendant lights above the counter and there's no
cutouts for the lights above thevanities in any of the
bathrooms. So I texted my builders like,
Nope, that's fine. They usually install the
countertops and then they do thecutouts.
So they're more great. Fine, you know, you know,
because we're keeping track of this shit.

(55:55):
So we go in Thursday and Melissaand I was like, I don't need to
run in. You know, we were just here not
too long ago. It doesn't look like much has
changed. You were in like 2 days ago and
said, well, they swept because it was raining so they can do
stucco outside. And so she comes out, she's like
there's fucking flooring. So we go in and like all the

(56:16):
the, the main floor had all the the laminate flooring in the
downstairs bathroom had its flooring in and it was like
that, yeah, it's set up outside all the other rooms that are
getting flooring. So I'm like, oh fuck, that's
awesome. So we went back the next day as
most wanted to and I'm like, fine, that's cool.

(56:39):
First off, we met two of our neighbors or our next door
neighbor, Linda. That's a good name.
Yeah. Is is subtly racist?
It was. She's cute about it.
She's like, yeah. She's like, oh, you have to

(57:00):
check every day. They do a quick job, but you
have to keep an eye on them. And I'm like.
Thanks. That's been the Hispanic workers
that are doing OK, great, OK, cool.
Who is that? Yeah.
So it's like they do good, but they're very messy.
You have to, you have to keep aneye on them.

(57:22):
I'm like got. Clean.
Yeah. Gotcha.
Gotcha, Linda. Thanks.
Doesn't matter if it's Hispanic or white or black or purple or
yellow. Construction is.
Dirty she she was at their house, the house that she built
almost every day. I'm like, I don't want to be
that. I I don't necessarily want to be

(57:43):
that. But we'll be back several times
a week and so we went back on the next day on Friday.
So we turned the corner. The entire house outside of the
house is stuccoed. Like shit.
I was like, it wasn't like this yesterday.
So fucking a good job. White people and their
efficiencies. Walk in, we're like, oh, they

(58:05):
finished the flooring and we're like looking at other things
that we turn around and we're like, holy shit, all the
cabinetry is there. Like I don't know how we didn't
see it when we walked in becausewe're looking down at the floor.
I guess all the cabinetry for the kitchen is in there.
All the cabinetry for the bathrooms is downstairs.

(58:25):
So we expect when we go back later this week, the cabinetry
will be up. We're like, holy shit, now we
can like it's really starting toprogress.
They did a ton shit in 24 hours.So now we're like, and now it's
September, we're supposed to getin there mid-october.

(58:48):
And so Melissa's like, I can saywe're probably going to be in
our house next month, which is such a great thing to be able to
stay. So it it is it, it moves.
So it moves fast in the beginning, which you were in
Ohio for the, the whole beginning process of it.
Then things slow down or seem like they're super slowly.

(59:09):
You've got the drywall, you've got, you know.
What? Well, they had to test the
inspection for all the water tests all the other.
All that shit has to, you know, we.
Need drywall inspection. Yeah, so.
And then things just pick up like it is crazy how fast.
Now I will say I was at my, I was at the site twice a week

(59:31):
when we built the previous houseand when they started the
foundation. I was there when they started
the foundation like they dug everything out, put in the
footers. And then I was there the day
that they were finishing up the basement.
And when I showed up, they had, and I've told the story before,

(59:54):
so I'll just, I'll keep it short, but there was a window
where it didn't belong. And it was 2 white guys.
It wasn't they, I mean, they were, they were moving through
this thing. They were, they were quick
because the two days prior therewas no, there wasn't a cinder
block to be found. And then, you know, we'll just
call it the Thursday. So when I showed up on Tuesday,

(01:00:15):
the hole was dug, the footer wasput in.
When I showed up on Thursday, the basement walls were there.
Like almost all of them. And I ended up sending the two
guys home and they were bitchingat me.
They're like, who the fuck, you know, who do you think you are?
I'm like, well, I'm the guy who owns the place, so you'll get
paid, go home. It's fine.

(01:00:38):
Because the window was out of place there.
There was a window where a window shouldn't have been.
And but these two guys, they were good.
They were quick. They I mean they had an entire
basement 13 course wall like done in a day that's.
That's crazy. That's fucking insane.

(01:00:59):
Or, and I should say in two days, so in two days they had an
entire basement completely, you know, ready to go.
But it it was just constant timeafter time, like I would show up
and something was wrong. Show up.
So I've always said, anybody whohas asked me, well, I'm going

(01:01:19):
to, I'm going to build my next house.
Build your next house. Go for it.
Be there every day if you can. So it's.
As you can. Yeah, it it be there as much as
you can because inevitably somewhere along the line you're
going to get fucked. So like when you said something

(01:01:40):
about the countertops and the the the pendant lights not being
being there, it makes sense thatthe pendant lights aren't there
because they want to see where the countertops are going to be
first before they bore those hole.
I mean, they're going to have toput in, you know?
Like the electricals, yeah, they're, they're the electricals
up there. And one of the, you know, like

(01:02:01):
Melissa and I went, we upgraded what we wanted to upgrade, but
the rest of the stuff we went like give us whatever standard
like I'm not going to, I'm not going to pay for upgraded like
cabinet hardware, no. I'm not paying all that shit you
can change out yourself. Exactly.
I'm not paying for whatever pendant light you're going to
put over the counter. We'll pick our own out.

(01:02:22):
You know, I'm not paying like Melissa in the master bathroom.
You know, it comes with a gigantic mirror.
She's like, I don't want a gigantic mirror.
I want to, I want 2 smaller mirrors above the sink.
I don't need like a fucking 8 foot or whatever 6 foot mirror.
If you provide those mirrors, they'll just hang them.
Yeah. So she was like, I don't want

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that. So we, you know, we didn't get
any of that. You know, just give us the basic
Chrome faucets, you know, give us the basic all of that.
We can change all of that. I don't need to pay you to put
that shit in. She's like, we want to get into
the house, you know, get the feel for it, see how you know,
we like things and then we'll figure that shit out.

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Right, and that's the way it should be.
Like the a lot of people or a lot of companies post or push
just straight bullshit. Well, I'm like, we did we
upgrade things? Absolutely.
Oh yeah, We had a, we had a fireplace put in.
That's, you know, could we have done that later?
Yeah. But no, just fucking do.
That now and then and then if you want to.

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Upgrade the fireplace. Yeah.
Yeah. Stuff fine.
You know, like that, you know, put the hood over the stove.
There are certain things that we, you know, you do that.
Yeah, we're fine with that. There's other things that I can
do or Melissa can do that we don't need to pay extra for.
Right. And that's, that's how I feel
about things like, I mean, obviously we moved and I love

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this new house, but there are things that I will change in a
heartbeat, like soft clothes, cabinet drawers and cabinet
doors that should be standard. Like there shouldn't be a
company out there making a hingethat just slam shut ever.

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Bars are soft clothes, yeah. Well, that's the thing.
Like I got to go through and change all of our hinges, but
I'm not doing that because the we have a plan to redo our
kitchen at some point. Like I don't know how that that
setups going to look. I'm actually going to hire
somebody to come in and kind of give us an idea what, what we
think we should do because we have a huge area like our, our

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kitchen is easily like 1/3 of the House of the main floor.
I mean, with minus the, the, the, the bedroom.
So like you got your living room, you got your den and then
the kitchen. The kitchen is a, is 1/3 of this
house. And the way it's set up is, it's

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fine, it works for 2005 or 2007,but going forward, does it work?
You know, so the the plan is to redo the whole kitchen area and
different sink. Like I, I don't like undermount
sinks, like fucking undermount sink.

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I want they leak. So trying to figure out like
what we're going to do with thisbar area that we have that we
use. Like we didn't use the bar area
at our Roadhouse, but this bar area we use now, like how's that
look with an island? Or how's that look with, you
know, keeping as a bar area or like our cabinetry, the cabinets

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need to be in my mind, even if we kept the same set up, the
cabinets need to be raised 6 inches all the way around.
There is so much, there is so little space between the top of
the cat, the top of the countertops in the cabinetry
that it is, it's, it's unreal. Like there just needs to be more

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space. So it's, it's, it's things like
that, like things you don't think about when you're building
a house for your first time thatyou, or when you've moved into a
house and you look at things like, all right, my next house
is going to be this like having space between your countertops

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in the, in the bottom of your, your wall cabinets.
That's a huge deal. Like that's it's crazy just
because we had so much space between our countertops at the
old house and the the wall cabinets that now that we don't
have, like I, I have a hard timegetting a KitchenAid mixer under

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the cabinet without there being spaced between the top of the
the mixer and the bottom of the cabinet where the last house.
Yeah, that. There was fucking sucks.
There was 6. To 8 inches.
Now we don't have that, so like thinking about things like that
are and not that we use the KitchenAid mixer every fucking
day, but when you pull it out tomake cookies.

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You you want to be able to. You want to be able to use it
like, you don't want to leave itlike sitting halfway out on the,
you know, it's just, you know, white people problems.
Yeah, we like one of the things that we upgraded is next to the
stove. You know it's a built in stove
back to the stove. Crazy air.

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There we go. Like.
Sorry, next to the stove there was 2 cabinets.
Yeah. And so instead of cabinets, we
had drawers. OK.
Put in so we can put our pots and pans in so we can just pull
out, pick up the pan. You'd love to pull out.
Yeah, Yeah. Well, yeah, sometimes that's

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just the safer method it. Is.
And so like, things like that iswhat we paid extra.
For yeah, like pay extra for theshit you don't want to deal
with. Don't pay extra for the things
that you can fix. Yeah, like a Chrome.
Like a Chrome faucet. Yeah, Chrome faucet I can
replace in, you know, 20 minutes.
Yeah, that it's that and that's easy shit.

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Like I have a leak right now andI could probably replace it
myself. There's a so we have this house
has weird pecs. We have a what's called a luma
pecs. So it's aluminum lined pecs.
I don't know who thought this was a good idea.
Aluminum leeches like it's a it's a it's a product that

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leeches. That's why I like your aluminum
cans have a plastic liner in them like any soda can you look
at if you just if if you got ridof the aluminum, there's a
plastic liner in that can not inthis house.
So this house is full of this Aluma PEC shit.
Well, right now I just I walked into one of our we I call them

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the stock rooms. We have two of them in the
basement. One has all of our mechanicals.
It's got the HVAC, it's got the hot water tank.
All that shit's in this in this one room, there's water all over
the floor. So I immediately like what the
fuck? So I start looking.
Well, the seal on a copper flange has failed and it's one

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of those, you know, your standard like you have a, they,
they take a ring and they put iton the pipe, they flare the pipe
and then it has a nut and so it,it, it's a flange, It just
creates a seal that seals failedwhether the flange failed or the
something's failed somewhere. So there's water on the floor,

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but also the transition between the Aluma packs and regular pecs
has failed also. So I've got two different leaks
in the same line and I'm trying to figure out like, how am I
going to fix this shit? Well, I just decided I'm like,

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fuck it, I'm going to call my myGC, have him come over and he
can, yeah, he can deal with thisshit.
But like it's shit like that that like if you have like if,
if your whole house is done in pecs, there is no reason other

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than right at the fittings to docopper and you just do shark
bites. You do shark bite to to a copper
fitting boom. Tiny shark bites done absolutely
before. Like at some point the problem
with this house is so my last house was all copper, which is

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fine. Like as long as it's sweated
properly and as long as the the the copper and the water doesn't
freeze, you'll never have an issue with copper.
But it's all the different typesof transitions.
At some point I'm going to have to redo this entire house with
pecs with like it expand the pecs.
So I'm going to have to like allthe copper fittings.

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All the copper bullshit is all going to have to come out.
I'm going to cut it all out. We're going to have to pull all
the water lines out of this house and rerun all new water
lines hot and cold everywhere. Now my plan is to only be in
this house for maybe another 12 to 15 years and maybe get away

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with it. But with shit like this
happening I may have to do it sooner.
So which means I'm going to haveto get with my GC and him and I
are going to have to go through this entire house and start
moving water lines and everything else.
And if that's the case, I'm putting in water manifolds, I'm
putting in hot and cold manifolds where I can actually

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turn off, you know, if I need toturn off water to the kitchen, I
just instead of turn off the whole house, just turn a valve
done that the kitchen that no longer has water or if I need to
turn off a bathroom or if I needto turn off whatever.
But it's, it's coming down, it'sgetting real close to shit like

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that. So we'll see what happens.
But plan I, I would say plan ahead.
Like when you're building, plan ahead, let's say.
Like if you're probably be on the point of putting in a
manifold, but having your main line come in and branch out to
something where you can say, OK,half bath downstairs, master

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bath you. Know there's a couple spots
there. There are a couple spots so I
can turn off water specifically.Yeah, see that?
And that should be, but that's the thing like that should be
standard. Like that should be a, you have
an electrical box where you can turn off Breakers.
You should be able to turn off water to certain rooms just by

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turning a valve. Yep.
Like that needs to be a standardin like code.
Like plumbing code. Yeah.
Every time we do something, thisis what you get.
Hot water comes in, You've got 1234 bathrooms or 4 areas that

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not 4 bathrooms. That's ridiculous.
Where is it? I have 4 bathrooms.
No our our house will have 4 bathrooms.
Yeah, we have. We have 4 bathrooms here.
Well, we got what it'll be. We got 5/3 full and 1/2.
Yeah, we got Lexi has a bathroom, Harley has a bathroom,
basement has a bathroom, we havea bathroom.

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And then there's the half bath. Yeah, we have 5, so it's not
totally ridiculous, but four places to turn off a hot water.
You have your kitchen, you have master bath, you have half bath,
you have a full bath. You should be able to turn off
the and and and the laundry area.
You should be able to turn off the hot water to any one of

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those places and not have to shut the whole fucking house off
or shut off the hot water from the hot water tank.
So anyway. Yeah, that just makes sense to
me. That and but it makes sense to
me too, but I don't know. Like when we build our original

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house, it was they did shit justto get it done.
And that's what I hate saying. Like knowing, knowing that the
the plumbers came in, they're like, we're going to do the bare
minimum just. To get by.
We're we're going to do the passcode like code should be

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code should be packs for everything.
There shouldn't be any copper unless it's a fitting at the end
of the packs. Packs should be everything.
Manifold should be everything. Hot and cold manifold should be
everything. Whether you want a hot water
tank or an instanton, that should be, you know, if you're

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into an instanton like we have it, we did want a whole house
instanton, which is fine, but todo like a gas based instanton
system in every bathroom, I think that's almost unachievable
with a house that's already pre built.
Yeah. Because you have to pipe for

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exhaust. But if you're going to do an
instant on system in your house,it should be individual systems
per bathroom or kitchen or anywhere there's going to be a
hot water source. Do the smaller systems per
because it's like you still haveto.
You still have to run the water for 5 minutes for the instanton

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system. So when I get in the shower in
the morning, I have to run that water for 5 minutes before I
ever get hot water, which is no different than having a hot
water tank. The only difference is I never
run out of hot water so. Yeah, we're the the new house
will have tankless and like we're excited about that.

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Tankless is awesome. Like I've I've I've sat in the
shower for 50 minutes to an hourand never lost hot water.
That's amazing. And that's awesome.
Like that's the best when I havelike a migraine that I just
cannot because that's my go to like it.
It's just sit there with hot water like it's hot as I can

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stand it. But that that's one of like the
weird pleasures in my life is taking a long ass hot shower.
Yeah, like it as hot as I, as hot as I can stand it.
And I've got my, I think I've got our instant, our, our, our
tankless system set up for 1:25.I'm running that almost every

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bit of 125. That's fine.
Like my skin's melting, but I'm just sitting.
There. Yeah, you get out of the shower
and looks like you have a sunburn.
Yeah, like I'm beet red. Yep, that's perfect.
But does it feel good? Yes.
Yes, also yes. Also, yes.

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So all right. Sounds good.
Yeah, we've. We've all right.
Welcome to my Ted talk. Thanks for thanks for attending.
We'll like next week Sunday. I should be fine.
OK. And then the Sunday after that
is my last Sunday off and then Istart closing on Sundays.

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So that's that. We'll have to start figuring out
what what the next step is. Yeah, we'll have to probably do
weekdays, which is fine, provided that it's not a Friday
because. Right, I was going to say no,
you can't do Friday. Yeah, I got football and but
then that Harley has matches usually like.
Like I'll, I'll be opening on Wednesday, so I'll have

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Wednesday all day, Thursday, youknow, Friday off and then
Saturday and Sunday I don't go into work until 3:00.
Your time. Your time.
Which is 5. Our time, which yeah, which is
no 3:00 your time, 1:00 my time.So I would have to leave at like

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230 your time. It just means that I can't drink
so. Well, heavily.
Yeah, right. Yeah.
We'll figure it. Out like, yeah, we'll figure it
out. Because right now Harley has
matches usually Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, sometimes
Friday, well and Friday, but she's not going to Friday

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matches because I'm we've already decided that she has to
go to the football games. Yeah, she's shooting.
So, and I'm shooting why I skipped last Friday because it
was supposed to. It was an all girls match Friday
that that Friday and with the week before was supposed to be

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an all girls match also. But Tays Valley had to cancel
because of whatever reason, God knows whatever was, but they
played last week. So this past Friday Harley
played, they won. They won the match like they won

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by a lot. Like it wasn't like, Oh yeah, it
was close. No, it was is like 70 points it.
Was like, is there a mercy rule we can throw in here?
Well there is a mercy rule. It's called double par pick up.
So if the par is A5 you get to 10 and if you don't hit a 10 you

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pick it up. You write a 10 and you circle
the 10 which means 11. So double par pick up is.
Is how they play in middle school and Harley had no double
par pickups. She double parred two holes.
She shot A51 on a 36. That's awesome.

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The other girl on the team shot a 49 out of 36, so Harley is
only 6 points off our best female player.
That's awesome. And that's not me Tooting my own
horn or her horn. That's just what it is.
It's just what it is. It is what it is.
She had a really good day. She has bad days and good days.

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She had a really good day on thecourse even like her coach was
like, it's weird how you play better when you're in a really
good mood when you show up and she's like, I know usually I'm
the reason for the bad mood. Right.
But she played like exceptionally well, Very proud

(01:21:12):
of her for, for playing the way she did.
She had it. I mean, she come real close to
to double parring on two holes. So there was a a par four that
she got a 7 on and a par 10 thatshe got an 8 on.
So it was like the 1st hole in the 7th hole.
And like what happened? She's like, I don't know, She's

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like. I.
She's like, I got upset and like, but she, she, she realizes
what she's doing when she's doing it.
So that's a plus. But yeah, so we'll, we'll figure
out how we're going to record, when we're going to record, what
we're going to record. And push comes to shove, Randy's

(01:21:55):
going to have to get an iPhone so he can FaceTime in.
Yeah, so be it. So he's like, I don't want to
get an iPhone. Well.
Yeah, some people just struggle.Well, he's, he's struggling.
Good grief. Hey, ma'am.

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