February 23, 2025 • 66 mins
Join host John as he welcomes Aurora, an intuitive astrologer with a unique perspective on the cosmos, to Dairyland Frights. In this captivating episode, Aurora shares her journey into astrology, sparked by a childhood fascination with the stars and mythology. She discusses her experiences with spirit guides, the significance of astrology in understanding life’s challenges, and how planetary placements can influence our relationships and personal growth.
Listeners will be intrigued as Aurora explains the complexities of natal charts, astrological houses, and the importance of transits in our lives. She delves into the nuances of compatibility between zodiac signs, offering insights into how different energies interact. With personal anecdotes and practical advice, Aurora emphasizes the transformative power of astrology in navigating life's ups and downs.
Prepare for an enlightening conversation that blends the mystical with the practical, as Aurora encourages listeners to explore their astrological paths and embrace their unique journeys.
1. Introduction to Aurora and her journey
2. The connection between astrology and the paranormal
3. Understanding natal charts and their significance
4. The role of planetary placements in relationships
5. Exploring astrological houses and their meanings
6. Compatibility between zodiac signs
7. Personal anecdotes and client experiences
8. Conclusion: Embracing astrology for personal growth
Discover how the stars can guide you in this thought-provoking episode of Dairyland Frights!
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>> John (00:12):
Hello, my spookie friends, and welcome to another
episode of Dairyland Fry, the paranormal podcast
that covers everything spooky,
creepy and mysterious in the Midwest
and beyond. And
boy, I keep having great guests.
I must be blessed because
I've never had a bad guess. No pressure, Aurora.
(00:34):
Anyway, on the podcast, I'm gonna take you guys a
little different places today. So I've had
mediums on today, and Aurora so very
nicely told me she's not a medium, but her dad was a
medium, but she, Aurora is an
intuitive astrologist. Is that correct,
Aurora?
>> Johnny Love (00:51):
Intuitive astrologer? Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.
>> John (00:55):
Yes. Okay. Welcome to the show.
>> Johnny Love (00:58):
Thank you.
It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you so much for the invitation.
>> John (01:09):
Absolutely. I saw auroras.
So, when I get Gaston, I try to keep
it, like. I try to get, like, a variety. Like, I have
mediums, and then I have, like, people who
are from a different country, like from the uk,
The Netherlands, or, you know, ghost hunters
or paranormal investigators or whatever. Because
(01:30):
really, the paranormal encompasses a
lot of different genres. And
I'm not saying astrology as paranormal, but it's kind of a
science that kind of with the paranormal
mystery, as I'd like to say, which
I find fascinating.
So, Aurora, why don't you
(01:50):
tell me a little bit, in my spooky friends, the
audience, a little bit about yourself and how
you, got into that.
>> Johnny Love (01:58):
So I guess I got interested in
astrology a long, long time
ago. I was always a lover of the
stars and of stories and
mythology. And just as a child, just. I
had this. It was a toy. It was a globe that kind of lit up and
projected a map of the constellations on the ceiling.
And it came with tape. And it was this guy
(02:20):
telling Greek myths as the globe kind of
turned around. So the tape was sort of timed
with the constellations so you could kind of fall
asleep listening to the mythology. And it
was, just something that always made me just
really curious. And, it just
absolutely fascinated me. And I have memories of
being a very, very small child, being outside
(02:42):
my home with my dad. And I was. I was
feeling really sad. And he came over and he was like, why are
you. You seem really sad. What's wrong? And I said, I miss
my home. And he was like, but we are home. And I said, no,
the home I had before I was here. And
I pointed to the sc. The stars. And I was like, I
came from up there before I was here.
(03:03):
And so I think there's always Been a
part of me that maybe feels more
at home in that kind of world
than here and the third dimension, if
you will.
>> John (03:15):
Yeah, I love that.
See, that's really interesting to me. Not to get off on a tangent, but
sometimes we do this on the podcast. so I've
had authors who have. And I know this,
this is kind of realm kind of not but like spirit
guides per se of u
Extraterrestrials because I've been told not to say
aliens because sometimes it confuses people in our
(03:36):
current climate. So
extterrestrials as a spherit guide.
And really quickly, you know, your spirit guide is
someone who kind of goes through
your life to tell you like
things are going on, like hey, you're doing great
or you know, let me help you with this situation or
maybe warnings, you know, maybe
(03:58):
I've had like that right.
>> Johnny Love (04:00):
Go my own spirit guides before
and my personal experience has been u.
they, they have been very clear with me and
audible. It sounded like there was a loud
authoritative voice in the room. and I've hear, I've had
other people who have also heard it. Like it wasn't just
me who heard it. It wasn't like a one
(04:21):
off psycho, you know, kind of
experience. I like there were witnesses to the, the
disembodied voice giving me clear warnings about
things. So it was kind of nice to have some proof to
that because otherwise I'd be really concerned.
But yeah, they, in my experience, they,
they like to step back and let us do
(04:41):
our thing unless they absolutely have to step
in. Because I think that
we, and this kind of loops back into astrology
too. We come here, and live these
lives for some reason. And I think each one
of us has different reasons to be here. and you can kind of
discern that in looking at astrology charts. you can
(05:01):
kind of get a sense of the lessons we've signed up to learn
and our level of consciousness and awareness of those
lessons also. And so that's kind of what
I help people pick apart through our work
together with a one on one client. But yeah, I mean
spirit guides are. You're never alone for
one thing. You're like, even if you're. There's no other human
(05:22):
visible. You're. You've got people on your side
who just aren't visible to the
naked ey.
>> John (05:28):
Absolutely, absolutely. So I
had a reading originally
and you know, whether you believe or not believe. But I have found
out Aurora, I have four seer
guides. Yeah, yeah. And they said I'M
doing great. And there I've had some personal and
health issues. the woman who was doing it, I know her well
(05:48):
and she's an amazing, amazing person.
And she knew things about my health that
only a person close to me would know that. Like, there's
no way. Unless she got a hold of my medical record.
>> Johnny Love (05:59):
Yeah.
>> John (06:00):
And somehow hacked into the wherever.
And I'm thinking that's a lot of work because I've never
mentioned anything about my health. And when we were having that
reading, you know, the spirit guy came through to me and
said, you know, you know, thisis and thisis
this and nailed out the part.
I wanted to put it on the podcast, but
to be honest with my spooky friends and you, it was a little
(06:23):
too personal.
right. Yeah. So. So I didn't.
So let's speak of that. let's kind of go back,
if you don't mind.
So when you're
dealing with your knowledge, let me ask
you this. You said, and this kind of
really top of my head here you were said you,
(06:45):
you're from, you know, whatever
planet, universe, whatever you want to say.
U. When did you
feel like you said you fe as a kid? Did you feel that
throughout your life? That, that was kind
of a thing almost bringing you back?
You know what I mean? Have you had any experiences associated with
that or kind of, kind of a little elaborate on
(07:08):
that?
>> Johnny Love (07:09):
Well, that memory, I mean, it's. I was
maybe three years old, when that
story I told you took place. And I
don't really have solid memories
per se of being in that place,
but I have past life memories of being on other
planets and being different species
(07:30):
and being. And those planets had humanoid
looking people on them. and so,
I mean, I don't know if other people, I
mean, I think other people do have some, like, some people have
these kinds of memories. I've worked with a past life
regression therapist to help uncover some of these.
These past lives and these memories.
(07:50):
But they are just as real as
the memories I have from this life, even more so
sometimes. And it also kind of
explains to me, like, who and why I am
the way I am in some ways. Like, I remember
thinking and knowing from a very, very, very young
age that I was going to be into cartoons and
motorcycles. And those are just two things that like, like
(08:13):
I have, I went to school. I have a degree in animation for
hand drawn traditional animation. I ride
motorcycles. I don't ride as much as I used to,
but I've done a fair Bit of work in and around
the motorcycling world. I've gotten to work on a
prodock drag race team before. And so
it's like, I knew that when I was three
years old. And I knew that just like I
(08:36):
knew I wasn't from here, I was
from somewhere else. I don't exactly know the name
of that somewhere else. I kind of wish I did.
Yeah, but I get the sense that I'm not
supposed to know. Like, that's not my focus. You know what I
mean? Like, I'm here to live this life and to have
this experience now. M.
(08:57):
And so, like, that stuff will
probably come back at the end of this life. I'll
probably remember all the things from
before, when this life is over. So,
you know, not to be more, but. But death doesn't really.
I'm not particularly afraid of it. That's not the worst thing that
could happen.
>> John (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. I love that
attitude. Because again, people are
afraid of it, but you. We're all gonna die
someday, but is it truly death?
That's why I love the paranormal,
because no one has the answer. I mean,
I've had paranormal investigator. Paranormal
investigator on Believe it or Not Believe It. But they
(09:38):
have evidence of people reaching out, trying to
connect. Oh, yeah, you know, believe what you
believe. But it's fascinating to
me.
>> Johnny Love (09:48):
Well, so I have a story like that. My. I
was my late father's caretaker,
while he was on hospice. We knew he was going to
pass in the near term future, and
we were spending some time together at, one day and
I said to him, when you go, when you
pass and you're on the other side, send me
dragonflies. Like, that'll be
(10:10):
the sign that you were around.
And he said, okay, you know, dragonflies, all
right. And then that he passed, you
know, about a month later. And, that spring
and that summer, I saw more dragonflies
in places that you just shouldn't
see them. I've had them land on me,
(10:31):
like, big ones, like. And that that's not something that
has ever happened to me before. And so I just know
for me, without a doubt, that whenever I
see dragonflies zipping around, like,
that's one of my dad's ways of saying,
hey, I'm, I'm here. I'm okay. I love you.
>> John (10:48):
Oh, that's beautiful. I love that. Because I've heard
that before from people who have
said, like, you know, my dad loved
this tree in the front yard. Let's just say Right. And
then when he passed, I just saw like a wind
would come up and kind of shake. And I just
knew that he, like, there was no wind anywhere.
(11:08):
There was just like, wind on that treeizarre.
Right. Like, why is that happening? Or
people just saying things like, you know, I
know my dad, he would always like,
tuck me in a bed sometimes. Hear that. And you, you could
feel like, the presence of, ah, that, you know, to that extreme
too. That's. That's amazing.
So let me ask this, because if people are like, trying
(11:30):
to get, I don't know, get into
astrology and everything, let me ask you this.
How did you learn. And, correct me if
it's. I'm using abilities. All right, but how did you
learn to develop your abilities and kind of figure
out this was your path? We kind of talked about that a
little bit. you know, if you kind of explained that a little bit, because that's
(11:51):
just interesting, like astrology and stuff. You can't just be like,
okay, I'm just gonna do it today.
>> Johnny Love (11:57):
Yeah, no. So I started studying astrology back in
2008 when I was in college, and it was
my hobby for a long time. And I
listened to a lot of astrology podcasts, I read a ton of
books, and I. I
kept track of the transits in my
own chart. And I sort of started slow. You know,
it was like, oh, well, I wonder what's going on with
(12:20):
the astrology of this month? You know, And I think, like a lot of
people, I had the, you know, the early exposure
to magazine horoscopes or
the ones in newspapers and stuff like that, but I never really
put too much into it, but I thought it was interesting. I thought there
was something there, and I couldn't put my finger on
it. And it wasn't until later on in
(12:40):
college when I, I, started really
paying attention to the transits and beginning
to educate myself on how astrology works.
And my focus has been on Western, Hellenistic
astrology. And so it's
somewhat based in Greek mythology, and
there's also asteroids involved. And I use the
Placitus house system when I draw charts for
(13:03):
people. there's a lot of different schools and
ways people can learn. I mean, there's Vedic astrology that
comes from the Indian and Hindu traditions,
which is incredibly rich, but it's a different
system entirely, than what I
have studied and practiced. but I studied for about
10 years as a hobby until I
(13:23):
was, I was. I was
in the midst of My Saturn return when I was at about
29, 30 years old. And if anybody who's
listening knows anything about astrology at all, they've
probably heard of a Saturn return. It's one of
the bigger life events because Saturn
tends to come and knock us on our ass. and to teach
us a lesson like without, with good reason, he knocks us
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on her ass. I like to kind of tell people that
Saturn is sort of the stern
father, authoritative figure of
the astrological pantheon. He wants you to
learn lessons so that you can become responsible
and be the best version you can
deal with being. And then once you level up and
you take accountability for some of your
(14:09):
short fallings and you start
to be countable and maybe stop fucking
around so much, and do some hard work on
yourself, then he comes in and rewards you.
But it's not without that real
hard looking in the mirror at
yourself, at your life, your habits, at your likes
and your dislikes and maybe some things that you haven't
(14:31):
been so forthright with, you know, and everybody has
this because at the time of your Saturn return you're at the end of
your 20s and you've probably been fucking around for a good
10 years. No, I mean it's just
like the, it's the curse of youth. You know, very few
people, unless they have Saturn conjunct their son
or Saturn playing a very strong role on their
(14:52):
natal charts, very few people go through their chees
and like know exactly who they are.
Even if they've gone to medical school, even if they've gone to law school, they're
still, they're still on some sort of journey, finding themselves
more often than not. And so I was in the
midst of this transit and it was going on for about
two years, like off and on this planet was moving
(15:12):
around and you know, causing some trauma
in my life. And I, it didn't click for me that
that was what was going on and I was really just
struggling with work, I was struggling financially,
and I, I was a freelance artist at the time and I
had had a good business and
plenty of, you know, contracts and I
(15:32):
had been working on high profile projects all over the country. And
then it was just like boom, like the energy
shifted and it was nothing,
cricket. And I felt really sorry for myself
and I was kind of in this downward emotional
spiral of like being sort of the victim
and I just wasn't a happy, healthy place. And so
(15:52):
I went for a walk one day and I
saw we had this like little, little free
library in our Neighborhoods like this little box with books you can go
and get. And I just kind of got this sense,
there's a. There's something in there for you. And
I've. I'm an intuitive person.
I've always been intuitive. So when I get this.
This little hunch, I'm like, okay, let's go look in this box. And there
(16:15):
was a book in there by this wonderful woman. Her name was
Martha Beck, and the book was called
Guided by Starlight, or B, her own North Star, something like
that. And it was this wonderful book about how
to. Lots of interesting information in there, how to deal with
difficult people. But one of the things that really changed
my life in that book was that there was a chapter on
meditation practices. And I, started to meditate
(16:38):
with the practices that she described in
this book. And everything changed.
Within two weeks. My whole life changed. I mean, I went from
having 20 bucks in my bank account
and having to go to the bank with, like, a sock full of
change from the couch to try to pay a bill, to
getting a check for $10,000 within a
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period of two weeks. and I can't promise that, like,
everybody would have those kinds of results. But it was.
And it could have just been a happenstance, you
know, But I do recall meditating
very intently and feeling
energy and be like. And realizing how. How
meditation can be a gateway to feeling energy
and tapping into things and sensing things, even if
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you don't have evidence for it yet. And so, I
mean, I was in an unhappy relationship. I needed to
get out of there, and talk about spirit guide moments. That was one time
where I heard, you need to get out, like, just
very loudly. and I. I was
like, okay, show me how. And, you know,
it was like around the same time all
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of these things kind of just fell into place. But
I was able to move into my own apartment for the first
time. And it was there that I kind of was
able to catch my breath and feel like
I had a grasp on my life
again. I was like, you know, if
I could teach people to meditate in this in
(18:03):
accordance with the cycles of the moon, the waning, the waxing
moon cycles, and helping to show
people how to manifest with the natural cycles of
the moon and the earth. And astrology fell into
that. And I was like, well, just look at the astrology surrounding the
moon. And then people were like, oh, you're an astrologer.
And I was like, well, I didn't think
(18:23):
I was an astrologer, but then I kind of just
happened that I became an astrologer because
I wanted to teach people how to meditate and
meditate with like develop their own personal
practice and skill set.
>> John (18:38):
Absolutely. I love that.
You know, here's the thing though, and you probably
struggle with this is there's things out, like the
secrets, manifest manifestation.
You're manifesting everything. You know what I
mean? meditation.
But you know, a lot of people
just, I shouldn't say, buy into it.
(18:59):
Everybody wants it quick, right? Everybody wants something quick they want
to do, you know, oh, I meditated for a day. Where's
my new car? I wrote this down. You know, how
do you get, when you're working with your clients, how do you kind of get
past like, look, yes, this happened
to me in two weeks, but it might take
two years for you or two months or
(19:20):
you know what, how do you work with your clients and kind of explain
that?
>> Johnny Love (19:24):
So that's where looking at somebody's astrology chart comes
in handy because I can look at their birth
chart, the transits that are happening
now and get a sense of the energy
that they're, they're swimming through
and some of the challenges and some of the things that
are on the horizon for them. And
so that's when I have a conversation with them. I was like, well, what
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is it that you want? What is, what are your goals?
and then, you know, ideally I'll see a client four times
a year quarterly, and I'll give them, this is
where the next quarter's worth of full
moons and new moons will be falling in your
astrology chart. These are the areas that you can work
on manifesting in now and then over the
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course of a year, you will see progress in every
single one of these areas. So it's a systematic
approach. It's really not a magic pill
or something that you can take just to get
everything that you want. it,
it's practical advice, frankly. I
mean, but it's using ancient
wisdom. I, mean
(20:29):
Western astrology has been around since 300
BC. and we have data that is,
based on observations of planetary movements,
for 2600 years at this point.
and that's, I mean it is the
mother of all the sciences. Even though it's been
rejected and you know, derided
(20:49):
as pseudoscience by modern materialistic based
sciences, which is fine, but there
is something to it. And I think if people can
be open minded enough to
consider that we don't know everything,
we just, we just don't. I don't know how it
works, but I do know that we are energy
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and that our energy is affected by
things like gravity and mass and also
emotion. And the planets, when they're
in certain places, they take on this sort of
a certain kind of personality. I mean, right now as
we're recording this, Mars is retrograde in the sign of
cancer. That's a very specific
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energy versus when Mars is direct
in his home sign of Aries. Know, it's a different vibe.
So it's like being able to cultivate
an awareness of that kind of vibe
that can help us to just be more
conscious, and conscientious of the
environment we're inhabiting. I think
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it's helpful. I think there's, certainly I think
there are people out there who are looking to,
you know, make a quick buck or, you
know, get, you know, tell
people what they want to hear. But that's not what I'm here
to do. You know, I'm here to help people
learn to incorporate these
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practices into their own lives, to
help benefit themselves and grow their own
intuition and strengthen that muscle,
to just be more confident and
calmer people and more
like, happier in a world that is so
chaotic.
>> John (22:30):
Yeah. And that is really interesting
to me because everyone's different.
Life is to me very random.
And I can tell you very random things that have happened to
me that I didn't see coming and just,
you know, for good or bad. So again, if you have
someone like yourself who's, it's, ah, a shame people have
(22:50):
to make a quick bu. But somebody like yourself, with integrity who
is like, okay, look, you know,
let's go through this. Let's build that
muscle and make it stronger. U and
I, and I love that. That's really cool.
So I have a question though.
>> Johnny Love (23:05):
Yeah.
>> John (23:05):
I did a little research and
something that I thought would be really interesting for you. And if
it's wrong, just say it because again, this is
just my research from what I've gotten off
the web, as they would say. So one thing I wanted to know,
like, describe the role of planets
and their astrological mean meetings in a
natal shart. Is that something you do?
(23:28):
Or could you like, talk about planets and because you were
talking about Mars and Saturn and all this thing, I think my
spooky friends would love to be like, okay, what does
that mean for me? Or what does that mean?
>> Johnny Love (23:39):
Absolutely. I love talking about that. That's a great question.
>> John (23:42):
All right, great.
>> Johnny Love (23:43):
A natal chart. Let's start with that because
that's the thing that I,
That everybody has, whether they know it or not.
so when you're born, a natal chart is basically
a picture of where the planets were. At
the moment you came into your body and you began this
life. And so it's based
on geographic location of where you were born, the time of
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day you were born and the date. and that's all that
an astrologer needs to be able to pull your natal chart.
And then we can look at that and we get to see
where all those planets were. And
through understanding those planetary placements
and meetings of the planets. You know, think of it kind of
like a cocktail party. Each
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planet has a certain Persona
Whenever it's in a certain sign. So like I said
earlier, Mars and Cancer, whose retrograde is in a
very, very different mood, than Mars and
Aries. And so if we can look at the
sort of Persona that these planets are
playing in some of these natal chart, we can begin
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to understand their natal chart and
their personal proclivities. You can kind of
think of it as like a bloop or
a baseline operating system for
o the way somebody's wired.
Yeah. and so in that if
you're aware of this and,
you know, you maybe want to stretch to a different
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direction. Maybe there's something you don't like about yourself so much. You
can really consider, like, am I reacting
to something this way because this is the way
I'm wired? Or is there a
better way that I can look at this
situation? And that's where that sense
of awareness and consciousness comes in.
But it's not easy. This is, You know, it's much
(25:33):
easier just. Just flop on the couch and turn the TV on and check
out youutely know.
>> John (25:38):
Absolutely. I love that. Let's do that.
>> Johnny Love (25:40):
Yeah, it's fun. But I mean, it's a certain point,
like, you'll get bored sitting on the couch. You
know, like, you ll. You'll want to embrace life. And you'll
want to really delve into the deeper
mysteries of the soul. And I think that our natal
charts are really a kind of key to understanding
that. And so if we look at the natal chart
as that sort of baseline operating system.
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And then we look at transits. Transits are, where the
planets are now in real time or at
a certain date. We can look at any date and time you want.
So we kind of get to time travel. And we can kind of get
ahead heads up of themes. because like I said,
we have 2600 years of data
of things that happen when certain planets do
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certain things in the skies. And as the
esoteric saying is, as above,
so below.
>> John (26:32):
Absolutely. I love that. That
makes total sense.
Now I'm super confused about
this. What are astrological houses and
how do they represent different areas of light?
So what's, let's. What's up? I
Help me out here, Aurora. I'm totally confused.
You explained itautifully and I got it. Now there's
(26:54):
houses.
>> Johnny Love (26:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when we look at a natal chart,
it's divided into slices like a
pizza. So there's like all of these lines
through it. And those little slices are
what we call houses. And there's 12 houses and
everybody's Dal chart. And there's different house systems
that you can use for different purposes. But
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it's just a way of organizing the slices of
the pie. And the way it's organized is
based on the rising sign. And so some
people will be talking, you know, if you're at a
cocktail party or something, somebody will be like, oh, you're into astrology.
What are your big three? And so what people
mean by that is what is your sun, moon and rising
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sign? So the sun sign'the one everybody knows that's like,
oh, I'm a Sagittarius or I'm a whatever. But
not as many people know their moon sign because the moon changes signs every
two and a half days, but the rising sign
changes every two and a half minutes.
So roughly,
because we. It's based on whatever
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sign was on the horizon at the time you
were born. And that's very, very
specific. And so that's how
astrology can be very,
very personal and useful as a tool
for self reflection, for meditation and
manifestation, and also for forecasting
future events and understanding
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personal traumas in the past.
>> John (28:20):
M. I love that.
So you know what the next question
is gonna be? Explain the concepts of
zodiac signs and how they're used
in astrological interpretation. Ooh, that
was fancy.
>> Johnny Love (28:34):
Yeah. So I mean, like just the signs are the signs,
like Aries, Taurus, Gemini, like on through to
Pisces. And they're based on constellations and
there's mythology and planets assigned to them.
And it's really a beautiful system. When
you, really begin to understand it fully.
It's. I don't know that I've seen another
system that works quite so well. It's,
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it's sort of its own art and the way that it
works because it's, it's absolutely
just divine.
I think But I mean, so we can talk about Mars some
more. So right now, like I said, he's in Cancer,
but Mars in Cancer is very reserved and
sort of introspective and security focused
and all quiet and can be very
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slow to get things done. And the
energy of, things when Mars is in Cancer just
tends to be more plotting and like, just
almost arduous to make progress in some
ways. And it can also just feel like very
security focused. Like, you have to hold on to what
you have tightly versus, say,
Mars. And his home sign is
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Aries. So we'll go with that. Mars in Aries is very
aggressive. It's very gregarious and
a risk taker, a daredevil,
like, I would say evil Knievel kind of
embodies that. Mars and Aries, like, show
off flamboyant kind of energy. Like, look at what I
can do. And then doing it with flying colors on a
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motorcycle, upside down and backwards. So. But Mars
in Cancer is like, especially when he's retrograde like he
is now, it's very, like, reserved and introverted
and really would be happy just cozying up
with a cup of soup and a good sweater in front of a fire and reading
a book. So that's kind of what
the planets are like in different signs. And
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each planet has a different sort of
personality in every single sign as well.
>> John (30:26):
I love your analogies, Aurora.
Yeah, those are great.
So I guess one of my questions would be for you
too is. And let's get back to reading.
Okay. Like, how would you
explain, a challenging,
like, planetary placement that you might use a different
word? And how would you advise a
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client on navigating it? So, you
know, you were kind of talking about, oh, this Saturn's
kicking your butt, you know, and maybe you're talking to
a client and you're like, m. There's gonna be
some tough road ahead for you. How do you.
How do you talk to your client about that?
>> Johnny Love (31:05):
Well, I like to ask them questions
if I see things that I'm like, oh, that's not good. I can
start if I can. and I'm usually
pretty good at sussing out, like, what's going
on based on just looking at a chart. And I was
lucky enough for a while to work.
I, was an astrologer at a Renaissance festival for
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a while, and. Which is very different from what I normally do.
But, normally, like, people find
me somehow and they book an appoint with me and we get on Zoom
and we, we have a conversation Kind of like this,
but I pull in their astrology charts. but when I
was working at the Renaissance Festival,
I didn't get to do that. And I didn't know who these people were. It
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was literally anybody, who was
wanting to come sit with me and talk to me about
astrology and pay for, you know, 20 minutes of my
time. And it was a lot of fun. And it was also kind of
like the sats of astrology in some way,
because you just had an ephemeris
and that's it. It just tells you the
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numerical position and this. The sign of each
planet. So I just had a list of numbers, and that
was it. All I got to go off of for these people. And I
had a guy come in one day,
younger guy. He was
on the end of his Saturn return. I think
he was like, 30, 31. And he had a Venus
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in Scorpio placement. So his planet Venus was
in the sign of Scorpio when he was born. And
I remember sitting down. Look and looking at him, and he was really
cocky. He has his whole family with him. He was kind of like,
y'all watch this. This is gonna be a laugh. And he just
kind of thought it was bullshit. And I was like, yeah, come
on, you know, like, I was really nice to him. And he.
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He sat down and I pulled up to found his birthdayate in the ephemeris. and
was looking at stuff, and just off the top of my head, I was like,
okay, so what was going on in your love
life a year ago? And his
face just changed, just dropped. And he,
like, the color just drained from his face. And I was
like, well, what was it? I know it wasn't good.
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And he was like, I got divorced. And he
just started crying. And, no, Y. And
like. So I was like, yeah, well, Venus was retrograde over
your Venus. That was probably a really tough
time for you. And I think he had. He
had some really nasty, like, difficult
placements. Not nasty. And it's, like, hard to deal with
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placements that he was. Had been going through. And
I was like, what was going on at this time? What was going on at that time?
And he was like, well, I was in prison, and that's why I got
divorced. And I was like, well, you're
getting a second chance now. And I could see.
I could. I could, because I couldn know where the planets were moving
towards. I was like, look, you're getting a second chance. You're
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out. You're got people who care about
you, and you're here, so don't
do whatever you were doing before because you're not
getting any. You're not going get a third chance. This is it. So
make good on it. And he just looked at me with like
the biggest eyes and it felt like there was a
connection, you know, like that he understood what I was saying and
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that there was some real truth to it
that hit home for him. I never saw him again, but I
felt like I may have made a difference that day.
And it wasn't just, you know, entertainment and it wasn't just
a laugh. Sure, you know, So
I like to ask people questions because then they get to tell me
what's going on and then I can help pull
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the threads together and then give them some
hope for the future. because
know, the thing about planets is they don't take days
off. They're always moving. So the energy one
day can be very, very different from the energy the.
>> John (34:45):
Next day, you know. Aurora,
where were you three years ago when my life was going in
the toilet? I wish you had done a reading for
me then. that's really
interesting because like, for
like three years in a row, like, you name it,
everything terrible that could happen was
happening. Like, you know, I won't get into it,
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but it was just like. So I don't know if my planets
were just crashing or what's going on with that, but that's
really interesting, you know.
>> Johnny Love (35:15):
Yeah, I mean, we, we all have, there are
planetary oppositions and returns that
happen to each one of us throughout the course of our lives.
But then we also have things that maybe
are unique to just us.
so Pluto is a very slow moving planet.
And so a lot of people won't live through a
Pluto sun conjunction unless they have their
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sun sign kind of near where Pluto's moving
towards in their lifetime. But Pluto takes
240 years to make a trip around
the zodiac. And so when I was born,
Pluto was in Scorpio. I'm a son and
Sagittarius. So I lived through a Pluto
conjunction on my son, which is one of the most difficult
transits you can live through. and
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I don't necessarily recommend it, but it is
something that I can say I've lived through and I come out the other side and
I understand it. And so that, that is one thing I
think that, as an astrologer, I have a bit of an
edge over some having lived through
that. Like one of the most difficult transits you can live through. And so I
help clients who were going through that. And now
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Pluto's an Aquarius 'll be in Aquarius for the next 20
years. So Aquarians out there
listening, if you want me to talk you off a ledge,
please don't hesitate to get in touch because it's not fun,
you know, Pluto conjunct your son. But you can live through
it and you can grow from it and it's absolutely
transformational. But yeah,
there's difficulties set up in our lives
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astrologically for sure that we have to
overcome.
>> John (36:47):
Absolutely, absolutely. So
you.
Thank you Roa, because you gave me two questions
that, that I wanted to ask you that you set
me up perfectly for. How do you handle
situations where a client might be
seeking validation for a pree
existing beliefs or desires?
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Right. So they come into you already like ah, all right,
Aurora, this is. And you're like whoaa,
whoa, right? I mean, how do you handle that?
>> Johnny Love (37:16):
Well, I mean there are certain planetary
placements where you can see this coming. You can look at somebody's chart
and you can see, okay, this person's a very
materialistic, pragmatic, cynical
kind of mindset. And that's fine. The world
needs every single kind of person on this
planet. It does. Whether or not we like all the people on this planet,
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it's another story. But like the world needs
conflict to grow, really. It
doesn't need to always be in conflict to grow. But ah,
at certain points we do need conflict. But
I think I look for ways to
add value to their experience into their
lives. So it's not necessarily about
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validating them or stroking their ego, but giving
them something to consider. and it would be unique to
who? Like whatever person is sitting in front of me.
One person came to me and
they had, I think they had a
South node in
Capricorn and a North node in Cancer. And the Lunar
nodes are they're interesting. They're not even planets, but they's something
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that I like to use in astrology because it can really
help unlock difficulties like make them
less difficult for us. And so for a person
with a South node in Capricorn,
these people are natural workaholics. They
would rather be at the office and be at
home. But that's not what they need to do.
They actually need to learn to be
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softer, more caring, more nurturing.
Because the north node is all about our souls growth
and our destiny, like what the universe sort of demands
of us to cultivate within ourselves. And so I had
this guy sitting in front of me and he seemed like really skeptical about
stuff. And I was like, so, when did you stop being a
workaholic? Because you seem pretty happy right now.
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And he was like, well, how did you know
I was a workaholic? And I was like, well, I'm looking at your astrology
chart. And I was like, at some point
you prioritized your family
and your home life above the
work life, and everything got
better. And he. He,
like, kind of, looked at me like
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he didn't want to admit it. But then he. He was like,
actually, a few years ago, like, we went through some
things and I really had to readjust my priorities.
But since I've done that, like, everything, even
workflow is better. Like, it's. It just does.
And he was. Then he was
interested in what I had to say. So it's. It's
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about finding things to. To pull out, to tease out
that could give them some food for thought
versus trying to convince somebody
of something that, maybe they're.
They're not interested in being convinced of.
>> John (39:59):
Yeah, absolutely.
So, kind of piggybacking off that question,
can you describe a time when you had to set
boundaries with a client regarding their
expectations from an astrological
reading?
>> Johnny Love (40:13):
Not so much with clients. I'm pretty good with, u.
Like, with my clients, I mean, it's a pretty. I
mean, it's an hour and 15 minutes of our
time, and then it's via zoom. And I give
them a lot of reading material. And I.
I've never really had anybody cross those boundaries.
good. So that's been good. I've had
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other astrologers cross
boundaries. and I've had people in my personal life
acrossoss boundaries, but not so much my
clients. My clients seem to be really wonderful
people. I'm lucky in that way.
>> John (40:47):
Yeah, you are very lucky. People listening to
this are gonna be like, wow,
Aurora sounds cool. Yes, she is. She is
officially one of my stooky friends.
But here's what. Here's where people really
need to know is like. Like, what are your
ethical guidelines when providing
astrological advice, particularly
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regarding sensitive topics like health
or relationship?
>> Johnny Love (41:13):
M. I think this is. I've got a
great example for this. So I had a client come to
me about a year ago, and I could see
that there were things in her chart that. Well,
actually, I've got two stories I'll tell. Tell the one I'm telling
first, and then I'll tell you the other one. So I
could tell that this person's
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relationship life was about to really
undergo a change. And she was telling me some
things. And I was like, well, does this
feel like a happy, like,
equitable relationship to you? Is this what you
want? Because based on what I'm seeing here,
this isn't it. Like, you're about to go through a real
transformation in this part of your life. and
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that transformation is your. You have a
say in that, you know, so you think about what
you want and what you feel like you deserve and whether or
not this is it. Because if it's not,
like, life is short.
>> John (42:10):
Yeah.
>> Johnny Love (42:11):
and her relationship ended a week
later, and the guy was gone, you know, two
weeks later. And, I
felt hugely responsible and had this real
sense of guilt, like maybe I had done something
wrong. I was able to have many conversations with
her afterward, and she said, no, you absolutely did the right thing. You
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didn't tell me my relationship was over. You just
got me to ask myself questions that
helped me to find the answer for myself. And that's
kind of. My approach is to.
It's pretty Socratic. It's try to
gently help people get in touch with what's going
on for themselves. The second story I'll tell you,
has to do with both health and sex. And it's
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an amazing story.
I love this story because it's just
validating on a lot of levels. So I had a client come
to me. She was a woman, and she
came to me for a session. We had our session, and
I looking at her chart and I said, you know, I really don't
like the look of this transit that's happening on this
date. Do not make plans. Don't go out of
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town. Don't have any big commitments on
around this weekend. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't think
it's going to be fun. I don't think you're going to
enjoy it. But it's going to be transformational.
And it's going to have to do with sex
and, your sense of femininity.
but I don't know what it is. Like, the universe can give
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me clues, but it doesn't tell me the whole story.
You know, that would take the fun out of living life.
so, you know, she said, okay, okay,
okay. she goes away,
and then that date rolls around on
the calendar. It was Urana's conjunct, her moon, I think is what
it was. I forget which house it was in, but it was
Uranus and Taurus conjunct, her moon in Taurus. And
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that that date happened. She had this unexpected
pain Very suddenly she was rushed to the
hospital. She had a cyst on her ovary
and she had to have her ovary removed. And since
then she has gone through this whole sexual
identity revolution. She's now
like going, she's trans now. Like, I, like, because
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of this. I don't know if it's because of this, but I think
this kicked it off, you know. and so
it's really changed who she sees herself as. And it
really does tick all of those boxes. And it's not
anyone's fault, you know, this is just what's
happened. but she was so
grateful that, you know, it.
She kind of felt supported in a way. They. I
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should say now they're going, they. But, which
is perfectly fine. But
it's, you know, it's
useful, I think it'it. Would be. It was
useful for her to have a heads up to know
that something was up around this date and
time. and she kind of
felt, you know,
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supported, in that, ah, as
much as you can be for something unexpected
like that. It wasn't fun. But she's survived
and shee.
>> John (45:17):
And I think you take a great approach at it
because you're like, okay, this,
you know, is what's going on and
you know, again, you know, things happen
and whatever, but you know, just, you know,
keep an open mind about things. I think that's a great
approach. Like you said, you're not like,
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don't go out unless maybe there was a time, maybe you were
like, don't leave your house. Was there a time
like that where you actually told a client, like, it's
February 12th, do not go outside your house.
>> Johnny Love (45:49):
It's not. I did have a client recently who's going through some
stuff and I told them it was like, I hope they're doing
okay. It's like kind of now. It's like the end of January
to the end of fe. February. Right.
So the next month or so, like, please be very, very,
very careful. Just don't drive distracted
and keep your. Like just be very aware whenever you get
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behind the wheel of a car because
you're going to be more accident prone. And
just try to mitigate
the fallout from potential accidents
as much as possible. So I don't tell people
to not live their lives, but I do give
sensible advice. you know, like,
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because it's good to be reminded and to be aware. If you don't know,
that's you're kind of a magnet for
misfortune at a certain period of Time then you
could just be toodling along and
next thing you know you're in the hospital. Because I was driving home
last night from m A concert and there was a, car having car
trouble and they were very clearly like
stopped in the middle of the interate in Atlanta. They
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were stopped like their car just died in the middle
of the interstate. And somebody wasn't paying attention and
came in and slammed into the back of them going 70 miles an hour.
And I was just a few lanes over from it and I was
like, you know, like, how dense do
you have to be to not see the car right in front of
you? But I mean, people are driving around on their phones all the time, not
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paying attention. And so, you know, I
do just like to remind people, like,
well, especially when they're having troubling
transits going on, like, just to take an extra
measure of caution.
>> John (47:28):
Yeah, absolutely.
So let's have a little fun.
Okay, I'm gonna ask you some questions.
I'm not trying to put you on the spot or anything, but I am a
taurus, okay? Okay. All right. I was
born in April. If you need to know my birthday, I'll tell you. I don't
care.
>> Johnny Love (47:44):
I bet you're honest. Was on your son whenever you were
having your three years of fun. Not
that long ago.
>> John (47:51):
Well, thanks for telling me now, Aurora.
>> Johnny Love (47:54):
You should have found me sooner. I don't know.
>> John (47:56):
I should have found you sooner. What was I doing? so let's
have a little fun here, okay?
So let's talk about relationships. And I
get. Don't worry, I'm not trying to put you on the spot here.
But how do you analyze. I'm a Taurus.
My compatibility between two people using
their NATO chart. So you hear
this all the time. I'm justnna throw this out. So don't laugh at
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me if you do. Snaker. So maybe a Pisces
is not good for me, but maybe a, Capricorn is
better for me. I don't know. But how do you do that? So I'm
coming to you. I'm a Tauruist, born in April.
I'm looking to find Mrs.
Rightight. Do you get those? And what would you
tell me?
>> Johnny Love (48:36):
Yeah, I. I get clients. I get guys coming to me and
they're like, I've got these two girls. Here's their information.
I need know who's better
Me. And I'm like, all right, let's get into
it.
>> John (48:49):
Love it.
>> Johnny Love (48:50):
you know, and I think,
it's. It depends on what the person's
looking for. Right, whether they're looking for Mrs. Rightight
miss or forever or for Mrs. Right
now. and it's the
whole chart. So it's not just
whether or not somebody's sun sign is a match for
somebody else's sun sign. It's their moon signs, it's their Venus, it's their re
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Mars. It's where these things fall in their
houses. It's very complicated. So it takes
time, for me to look at these things and I do it with the
person.
so I kind of talk about like, well, this
person's U. so you're a Taurus and
you said this sign Capricorn. So Taurus and
Capricorn get along really, really well. They
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like, they're, they're just very
practical and pragmatic. Capricorn
brings the money to the
romance. Taurus likes to spend the money on nice things
and make the home comfortable and have good food around.
So that can be a really stable environment. A TS with
a Pisces is going to help support the
emotional nature of the, the Pisces intuitive
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flowing, sort of ethereal, creative
vibe which can also be really stimulating for Taurus.
But Taurus is going to have to take on a little bit more of a
masculine role and being the supportive
figure in that sort of situation. Because
if we just make it very simple in terms of
elemental, like
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elements. Earth supports water.
So Earth like contains
water. And that can be an interesting and
creative relationship that might be more exciting
than two Earth energies coming together which can
be a little bit stagnant and stale. So
depend on what somebo looking for.
>> John (50:36):
So in other words, you get me and I
say I'm looking at these two different
women. I like, I'm just say
Julie, Sarah. All right. Sarah's
really cool. I really like Sarah. She's outgoing, she's
fun. I like Julie. She's practical
and she, you know, she's honest. She,
whatever. So like you said you'd
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basically. But I guess. Let me back up
here. What if I told you a sign that you're
like is there a sign that like no way. That
is not gonna work. Like Julie is U. I,
don't know, Taurus too. I don't know. The
Tauruses and Tauruses work together. I'm just.
>> Johnny Love (51:15):
They can, they can. But Tauruss have
a, a tendency to be somewhat self
involved. and which is
fine, you know, they don't like to
share very much. So two to
so Like a lot.
No offense, but like I'm not sharing anymore.
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But like, so two Tauruses can be a little
bit petty if they're not really
jiving together. If. Because it's again, Tauruss
is just where the sun was when these two people were
born. So like they can get along pretty
well. But where their moons were, where their rising
signs are, where their Venuses are, that tells a
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much richer story. And that's where looking at
two charts in synastry comes in
handy. And that's what I do for a couples readings.
And I also have couples come for me, come to me
for transits and helping them plan their families or
when they should purchase property or take a big
vacation, things like that too. So it's,
it's not always just like who's gonna
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keep me interested, you know, and. But you can tell like
who. Like just without any information other
than the charts, you can see beautiful
contacts being made or very
harsh contacts being made. And you know,
the hard ones are not going to be fun
relationships for the people. So, so that.
>> John (52:38):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, go on.
>> Johnny Love (52:40):
Oh, go ahead. I mean, you just want to look for easy
connections in people's charts.
>> John (52:45):
Yeah. So I think
I figured this out, Aurora. I think you figure this
out and I'll to come. Well, I have to have you back on because I got a
million other questionseah.
>> Johnny Love (52:55):
Happy to come back.
>> John (52:57):
So there are people who get me and
people don't get me. I mean, I've talked about this
already to like mediums and we've talked about
auras, we've talked about energies and stuff. Like
literally, I'm one of those people, I walk up
to certain people and they're like, o, hey
man, whatever. Other people are like, john,
hey, give me a hug, you know, and stuff. you're the greatest.
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It's super weird and I don't
know why it happens, but also it
happens more with women than
men. So like for
example, a lot of my cowork, A lot of
I work work with a lot of female co
workers and either female cowork workers are like, hey
John, let's, let's have lunch and let's talk about this. Or
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they let's, let's goss. You know, let's
do some office gossip, you know. Another. Other
people, they wouldn't give me the time of
day, Aurora. When I even try, when I like,
hey, Sally, how you doing?
How's your day going? And yeah, okay,
John. And then they, you know, they're Looking the other way. They re. Think,
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how am I getting all this conversation?
>> Johnny Love (54:04):
So, yeah, how does that.
>> John (54:06):
How do you. You. I guess my. That's kind of a rambling. Sorry
to go have that tangent. But like, how do you. When
people come to you like that and they're just like,
Aurora, I just, I don't know what's going on. You know,
I'm trying to make new friends. I'm trying to
find the, you know, the person to spend the rest of
my life with. but I connect with some, but I don't conn
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with others. Like, do. Do you ever have those conversations
with people?
>> Johnny Love (54:30):
I feel like I have those conversations with myself all day long.
So, yeah. No, I mean, I know what it's like and the struggle is
real. I think everybody has that. But you can.
Like, if we're talking about astrology
specifically, you could look at two different people's charts
and. Or three different peoples s. And two of the three get
along really, really well. And there's a third person who is
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like the third wheel. You can see
conflict in the chart elements and
the. In the placements. And you can know
who's gonna be like. Without seeing the people
in the wild or they. What they look like
or witnessing their interactions. You can tell who is
who based on the pictures of their chart. and you
can say like, well, these two will get along and this
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person isn't happy with this for some reason.
Or maybe they get along in some way. Like, they're
serviceable. They're a perfectly capable
accountant for these two people. But they're not friends, you
know, like, they're doing their job and they're honest and
whatnot, but, you know, they're not Buddy. Buddy.
>> John (55:31):
You could see iteah. Yeah, that's. See,
that's interesting to me. I'ALWAYS found that
really fascinating.
Especially different people who I meet and
everything like that. And I'm that way with other people. I'm not
saying it's just me. I, you know, I've met some people, I'll be
honest with you, where I'm just like,
yeah, we're just not
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get to work.
>> Johnny Love (55:55):
Yeah.
>> John (55:56):
It's not that I. And I. I want to use this
correctly. It's not that I hate anyone
because that's. That's for children, you know, it's
just nothing I can do or say. And then I have to
fake it till I make it.
Like I said I'd be. Hey, how you do it? How's everything go?
And I sound like, you know, some cheesy. I don't
know, salesman or something. I don't know. You know what I mean?
(56:17):
And I think that's really interesting. I would love
to like, have someone like you just come in the middle of the
conversation and go, okay, let's figure this out.
>> Johnny Love (56:26):
Ye, that's a good point. I mean, so I can give
a personal example. So I'm a, My son'in
Sagittarius. My, like my son. I'm a
son and Sagittarius person. I don't have. But
I have a hard time with a lot of Burgos and Virgo and
Sagittarius is square to each other.
And I respect Virgos in a lot
of ways. And the themes as to why
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we don't get along are consistent with all the Virgo people
I've met and then Sagittarius people
like, I get along with for the most part too. But some
of them drive me absolutely crazy as well. So
it''s. It's not just the sun sign,
you know, it really is all of the elements. You
know, a person with a Mercury
and Sagittarius will absolutely drive me
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crazy because they don't know when to shut up.
Like they have foot and mouth disease. where
somebody with, Like I have a Mercury in Scorpio,
which is a little bit more focused and
exly ###ing with the way I use words. And I'd
like to think that I have, a good ability to read a
room. I know when to be quiet, I know to. When to
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talk. And that kind of, But with
Virgos and not all Virgos,
but like it. I feel like it's. For me, it's like Virgo
syndrome. And it's because I'm a son and
Sagittarius person that with a lot of Virgos
I just, I meet this
resistance of, Like they're
very focused on the details of things
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and because of that, a lot of times they
don't often see the bigger picture.
and I'm a bigger
picture thinker. and I'm
so busy painting with very broad strokes
that the details can oftentimes
be suggested. where they, they really
want to make sure that every single
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nickel dime is accounted for, every T
is crossed, every I is dotted. And I
find that working with Virgos can be really, really,
really beneficial to me because they can take my work to
that next level and really neaten it up, make it really
tidy and presentable. And
so even with difficult combinations,
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there are ways
to acknowledge the gifts that everybody brings
to the table, you know?
>> John (58:43):
Yeah.
>> Johnny Love (58:44):
Even. Even difficult relationships and transits
and aspects in astrology have some
kind of benefit that
is accessible if you're willing to look for
it.
>> John (58:56):
Yeah, I love that.
So before we wrap up and I ask you what's coming up and
where we what do you tell people about. Because
she'll love this episode. One of my friends,
she used to show me her. Her u
horoscope, every day. And she'd be like,
look, this is. And I'd always look at her and
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I'JUST be like, really? You think that's. What do you
tell people like that? Because don't you think that's a little bit
too. Taken it too far or do you have a different view on
it?
>> Johnny Love (59:25):
Well, I hate horoscopes and I will
tell you why.
>> John (59:29):
okay, there we.
>> Johnny Love (59:30):
Because they really reduce
down thousands of years of
information into something that is really
juvenile and sort of dumb and does not really
give it the gravitas that I think it
deserves. And it's not written in a way that even
makes sense. So.
>> John (59:49):
Right.
>> Johnny Love (59:49):
We should be. If you read a horoscope, for one thing, you
should not be reading your sun sign. You should be reading your rising
signs fororoscope. So remember earlier in the conversation
I was like the riseing sign changes every few minutes or
so because that dictates where
the houses fall. And so the rising sign
will give you a better idea of what
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is actually going to happen for you that day. So
you might be a sun Taurus, but you could be an Aquarius
rising. So in that case I would
say read Aquarius, don't read Taurus.
>> John (01:00:21):
Y.
>> Johnny Love (01:00:21):
You know, I mean read both if you want, but like,
Aquarius is probably going to be more accurate for you.
so I think that most people are out there reading the wrong
horoscope. And then the people who are reading the
wrong horoscope and they don't, they're like, this is bullshit
because this never shows up in my life. They're
like, well, it must be astrology, be
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bullshit because this doesn't ever work
for me. but it's because
the they publishers have
made a toy out of a very intricate,
articulate system and have really dumbed it
down and have done the practice
of disservice in doing so.
>> John (01:01:01):
Yeah, I could t. I couldn't agree
more. So again, it's for entertain
entertainment purposes only. if you
really people, with spooky friends here, you
really, really, really want to know
what's going on and get, you know, some, how
would I say, direction in your life.
Aurora is the person to reach out to. So we'll
(01:01:23):
reach out to her. because I,
all I can say is wow. I came into this conversation
going, I know nothing about it and now I know
a lot about it and it's super cool. You
know, it's, it's not the stupid paper reading
it and it's not, you know, some goofy, I don't
know, chart on a wall. It's like more than that.
(01:01:44):
So it's amazing. So, so tell me
and tell my spooky friends where they can find you
and you know, set up a session or maybe
just reach out to you.
>> Johnny Love (01:01:54):
Yeah. So My website is
bloodmoonmk.com. i also do a
podcast that comes out every new moon and full moon
called Blood Moon Milk Astrology. You can find it on
Spotify, Apple podcast, all that stuff.
And I'm doing a ah, full moon workshop for
the upcoming full moon in Leo. It is
limited availability. That's going to be on
(01:02:15):
February 9th. So a week from
tomorrow at 6:30pm Eastern is via Zoom,
25 bucks. I'll give everybody who signs up
their a picture of their natal chart and the
transits with the full moon and then we'll log on to
Zoom and I'll talk about what's going on and kind of help
people make sense of that for themselves because
I really think that if people can
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learn this system for themselves
and kind of find ways of implementing this
and it's just in a
very small way it makes the world a collectively better place
over time. So. And if you want a session, just reach out. I'm,
Aurora, atlooodondmilk.com is my email. Aurora
with an H on the end.
>> John (01:02:58):
This has been amazing. I got one word
for you. Wow, this is, this is
great. Like I said, I went into it thinking one
thing and now I'm like blowing away.
So thank you so much and thank you so much for go over over time
but definitely have y I back on because I didn't
even get to some questions. I wanted to get to more into the signs
and the houses and stuff like that. I wasn't trying to
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overwhelm you like, whoa, you know, what are we getting into? Because
this could go on for like three hours and you're like, ah, I'm looking at my
watch. But no, thank you so much and thank you so much for going
overime here. I truly appreciate taking time out of
your, your day spend with me. And, when this comes out,
like I said, my spooky friends, I'll have every, all the links in
there. Please go to her podcast. Please reach
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out to her, even if you're a little skeptical. Right.
You know, it's okay. Right. Send you a message.
>> Johnny Love (01:03:46):
Skepticism is a healthy, healthy part of life
and I embrace it fully.
>> John (01:03:52):
Yeah. And please ask her some questions. You know, I'm sure,
Aurora, you love questions about, you know, how
do you deal? Because we only scratched the surface of how she deals with
clients, but she told some amazing stories about,
you know, how to kind of shape their lives even
in a little way. And that's a good thing. And to Aurora's
point to, even if it makes your life just a
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fraction better, that's awesome.
Right? Because we all need that in this world today.
>> Johnny Love (01:04:19):
Absolutely. Thank you so much. It's been a true pleasure.
>> John (01:04:22):
Thank you, Aurora. you have a great day
and, have so much fun. You know, one thing too. Maybe we'll have to
do a reading someday.
>> Johnny Love (01:04:30):
Time. I'm here, love.
>> John (01:04:33):
Thanks, Aurora. By Bye so much.
Hello, my spookie friends, and welcome to another
episode of Dairyland Fry, the paranormal podcast
that covers everything spooky,
creepy and mysterious in the Midwest
and beyond. And
boy, I keep having great guests.
I must be blessed because
I've never had a bad guess. No pressure, Aurora.
(00:34):
Anyway, on the podcast, I'm gonna take you guys a
little different places today. So I've had
mediums on today, and Aurora so very
nicely told me she's not a medium, but her dad was a
medium, but she, Aurora is an
intuitive astrologist. Is that correct,
Aurora?
>> Johnny Love (00:51):
Intuitive astrologer? Yeah, that's a good way of putting it.
>> John (00:55):
Yes. Okay. Welcome to the show.
>> Johnny Love (00:58):
Thank you.
It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you so much for the invitation.
>> John (01:09):
Absolutely. I saw auroras.
So, when I get Gaston, I try to keep
it, like. I try to get, like, a variety. Like, I have
mediums, and then I have, like, people who
are from a different country, like from the uk,
The Netherlands, or, you know, ghost hunters
or paranormal investigators or whatever. Because
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really, the paranormal encompasses a
lot of different genres. And
I'm not saying astrology as paranormal, but it's kind of a
science that kind of with the paranormal
mystery, as I'd like to say, which
I find fascinating.
So, Aurora, why don't you
(01:50):
tell me a little bit, in my spooky friends, the
audience, a little bit about yourself and how
you, got into that.
>> Johnny Love (01:58):
So I guess I got interested in
astrology a long, long time
ago. I was always a lover of the
stars and of stories and
mythology. And just as a child, just. I
had this. It was a toy. It was a globe that kind of lit up and
projected a map of the constellations on the ceiling.
And it came with tape. And it was this guy
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telling Greek myths as the globe kind of
turned around. So the tape was sort of timed
with the constellations so you could kind of fall
asleep listening to the mythology. And it
was, just something that always made me just
really curious. And, it just
absolutely fascinated me. And I have memories of
being a very, very small child, being outside
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my home with my dad. And I was. I was
feeling really sad. And he came over and he was like, why are
you. You seem really sad. What's wrong? And I said, I miss
my home. And he was like, but we are home. And I said, no,
the home I had before I was here. And
I pointed to the sc. The stars. And I was like, I
came from up there before I was here.
(03:03):
And so I think there's always Been a
part of me that maybe feels more
at home in that kind of world
than here and the third dimension, if
you will.
>> John (03:15):
Yeah, I love that.
See, that's really interesting to me. Not to get off on a tangent, but
sometimes we do this on the podcast. so I've
had authors who have. And I know this,
this is kind of realm kind of not but like spirit
guides per se of u
Extraterrestrials because I've been told not to say
aliens because sometimes it confuses people in our
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current climate. So
extterrestrials as a spherit guide.
And really quickly, you know, your spirit guide is
someone who kind of goes through
your life to tell you like
things are going on, like hey, you're doing great
or you know, let me help you with this situation or
maybe warnings, you know, maybe
(03:58):
I've had like that right.
>> Johnny Love (04:00):
Go my own spirit guides before
and my personal experience has been u.
they, they have been very clear with me and
audible. It sounded like there was a loud
authoritative voice in the room. and I've hear, I've had
other people who have also heard it. Like it wasn't just
me who heard it. It wasn't like a one
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off psycho, you know, kind of
experience. I like there were witnesses to the, the
disembodied voice giving me clear warnings about
things. So it was kind of nice to have some proof to
that because otherwise I'd be really concerned.
But yeah, they, in my experience, they,
they like to step back and let us do
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our thing unless they absolutely have to step
in. Because I think that
we, and this kind of loops back into astrology
too. We come here, and live these
lives for some reason. And I think each one
of us has different reasons to be here. and you can kind of
discern that in looking at astrology charts. you can
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kind of get a sense of the lessons we've signed up to learn
and our level of consciousness and awareness of those
lessons also. And so that's kind of what
I help people pick apart through our work
together with a one on one client. But yeah, I mean
spirit guides are. You're never alone for
one thing. You're like, even if you're. There's no other human
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visible. You're. You've got people on your side
who just aren't visible to the
naked ey.
>> John (05:28):
Absolutely, absolutely. So I
had a reading originally
and you know, whether you believe or not believe. But I have found
out Aurora, I have four seer
guides. Yeah, yeah. And they said I'M
doing great. And there I've had some personal and
health issues. the woman who was doing it, I know her well
(05:48):
and she's an amazing, amazing person.
And she knew things about my health that
only a person close to me would know that. Like, there's
no way. Unless she got a hold of my medical record.
>> Johnny Love (05:59):
Yeah.
>> John (06:00):
And somehow hacked into the wherever.
And I'm thinking that's a lot of work because I've never
mentioned anything about my health. And when we were having that
reading, you know, the spirit guy came through to me and
said, you know, you know, thisis and thisis
this and nailed out the part.
I wanted to put it on the podcast, but
to be honest with my spooky friends and you, it was a little
(06:23):
too personal.
right. Yeah. So. So I didn't.
So let's speak of that. let's kind of go back,
if you don't mind.
So when you're
dealing with your knowledge, let me ask
you this. You said, and this kind of
really top of my head here you were said you,
(06:45):
you're from, you know, whatever
planet, universe, whatever you want to say.
U. When did you
feel like you said you fe as a kid? Did you feel that
throughout your life? That, that was kind
of a thing almost bringing you back?
You know what I mean? Have you had any experiences associated with
that or kind of, kind of a little elaborate on
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that?
>> Johnny Love (07:09):
Well, that memory, I mean, it's. I was
maybe three years old, when that
story I told you took place. And I
don't really have solid memories
per se of being in that place,
but I have past life memories of being on other
planets and being different species
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and being. And those planets had humanoid
looking people on them. and so,
I mean, I don't know if other people, I
mean, I think other people do have some, like, some people have
these kinds of memories. I've worked with a past life
regression therapist to help uncover some of these.
These past lives and these memories.
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But they are just as real as
the memories I have from this life, even more so
sometimes. And it also kind of
explains to me, like, who and why I am
the way I am in some ways. Like, I remember
thinking and knowing from a very, very, very young
age that I was going to be into cartoons and
motorcycles. And those are just two things that like, like
(08:13):
I have, I went to school. I have a degree in animation for
hand drawn traditional animation. I ride
motorcycles. I don't ride as much as I used to,
but I've done a fair Bit of work in and around
the motorcycling world. I've gotten to work on a
prodock drag race team before. And so
it's like, I knew that when I was three
years old. And I knew that just like I
(08:36):
knew I wasn't from here, I was
from somewhere else. I don't exactly know the name
of that somewhere else. I kind of wish I did.
Yeah, but I get the sense that I'm not
supposed to know. Like, that's not my focus. You know what I
mean? Like, I'm here to live this life and to have
this experience now. M.
(08:57):
And so, like, that stuff will
probably come back at the end of this life. I'll
probably remember all the things from
before, when this life is over. So,
you know, not to be more, but. But death doesn't really.
I'm not particularly afraid of it. That's not the worst thing that
could happen.
>> John (09:16):
Yeah, yeah, I love that. I love that
attitude. Because again, people are
afraid of it, but you. We're all gonna die
someday, but is it truly death?
That's why I love the paranormal,
because no one has the answer. I mean,
I've had paranormal investigator. Paranormal
investigator on Believe it or Not Believe It. But they
(09:38):
have evidence of people reaching out, trying to
connect. Oh, yeah, you know, believe what you
believe. But it's fascinating to
me.
>> Johnny Love (09:48):
Well, so I have a story like that. My. I
was my late father's caretaker,
while he was on hospice. We knew he was going to
pass in the near term future, and
we were spending some time together at, one day and
I said to him, when you go, when you
pass and you're on the other side, send me
dragonflies. Like, that'll be
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the sign that you were around.
And he said, okay, you know, dragonflies, all
right. And then that he passed, you
know, about a month later. And, that spring
and that summer, I saw more dragonflies
in places that you just shouldn't
see them. I've had them land on me,
(10:31):
like, big ones, like. And that that's not something that
has ever happened to me before. And so I just know
for me, without a doubt, that whenever I
see dragonflies zipping around, like,
that's one of my dad's ways of saying,
hey, I'm, I'm here. I'm okay. I love you.
>> John (10:48):
Oh, that's beautiful. I love that. Because I've heard
that before from people who have
said, like, you know, my dad loved
this tree in the front yard. Let's just say Right. And
then when he passed, I just saw like a wind
would come up and kind of shake. And I just
knew that he, like, there was no wind anywhere.
(11:08):
There was just like, wind on that treeizarre.
Right. Like, why is that happening? Or
people just saying things like, you know, I
know my dad, he would always like,
tuck me in a bed sometimes. Hear that. And you, you could
feel like, the presence of, ah, that, you know, to that extreme
too. That's. That's amazing.
So let me ask this, because if people are like, trying
(11:30):
to get, I don't know, get into
astrology and everything, let me ask you this.
How did you learn. And, correct me if
it's. I'm using abilities. All right, but how did you
learn to develop your abilities and kind of figure
out this was your path? We kind of talked about that a
little bit. you know, if you kind of explained that a little bit, because that's
(11:51):
just interesting, like astrology and stuff. You can't just be like,
okay, I'm just gonna do it today.
>> Johnny Love (11:57):
Yeah, no. So I started studying astrology back in
2008 when I was in college, and it was
my hobby for a long time. And I
listened to a lot of astrology podcasts, I read a ton of
books, and I. I
kept track of the transits in my
own chart. And I sort of started slow. You know,
it was like, oh, well, I wonder what's going on with
(12:20):
the astrology of this month? You know, And I think, like a lot of
people, I had the, you know, the early exposure
to magazine horoscopes or
the ones in newspapers and stuff like that, but I never really
put too much into it, but I thought it was interesting. I thought there
was something there, and I couldn't put my finger on
it. And it wasn't until later on in
(12:40):
college when I, I, started really
paying attention to the transits and beginning
to educate myself on how astrology works.
And my focus has been on Western, Hellenistic
astrology. And so it's
somewhat based in Greek mythology, and
there's also asteroids involved. And I use the
Placitus house system when I draw charts for
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people. there's a lot of different schools and
ways people can learn. I mean, there's Vedic astrology that
comes from the Indian and Hindu traditions,
which is incredibly rich, but it's a different
system entirely, than what I
have studied and practiced. but I studied for about
10 years as a hobby until I
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was, I was. I was
in the midst of My Saturn return when I was at about
29, 30 years old. And if anybody who's
listening knows anything about astrology at all, they've
probably heard of a Saturn return. It's one of
the bigger life events because Saturn
tends to come and knock us on our ass. and to teach
us a lesson like without, with good reason, he knocks us
(13:46):
on her ass. I like to kind of tell people that
Saturn is sort of the stern
father, authoritative figure of
the astrological pantheon. He wants you to
learn lessons so that you can become responsible
and be the best version you can
deal with being. And then once you level up and
you take accountability for some of your
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short fallings and you start
to be countable and maybe stop fucking
around so much, and do some hard work on
yourself, then he comes in and rewards you.
But it's not without that real
hard looking in the mirror at
yourself, at your life, your habits, at your likes
and your dislikes and maybe some things that you haven't
(14:31):
been so forthright with, you know, and everybody has
this because at the time of your Saturn return you're at the end of
your 20s and you've probably been fucking around for a good
10 years. No, I mean it's just
like the, it's the curse of youth. You know, very few
people, unless they have Saturn conjunct their son
or Saturn playing a very strong role on their
(14:52):
natal charts, very few people go through their chees
and like know exactly who they are.
Even if they've gone to medical school, even if they've gone to law school, they're
still, they're still on some sort of journey, finding themselves
more often than not. And so I was in the
midst of this transit and it was going on for about
two years, like off and on this planet was moving
(15:12):
around and you know, causing some trauma
in my life. And I, it didn't click for me that
that was what was going on and I was really just
struggling with work, I was struggling financially,
and I, I was a freelance artist at the time and I
had had a good business and
plenty of, you know, contracts and I
(15:32):
had been working on high profile projects all over the country. And
then it was just like boom, like the energy
shifted and it was nothing,
cricket. And I felt really sorry for myself
and I was kind of in this downward emotional
spiral of like being sort of the victim
and I just wasn't a happy, healthy place. And so
(15:52):
I went for a walk one day and I
saw we had this like little, little free
library in our Neighborhoods like this little box with books you can go
and get. And I just kind of got this sense,
there's a. There's something in there for you. And
I've. I'm an intuitive person.
I've always been intuitive. So when I get this.
This little hunch, I'm like, okay, let's go look in this box. And there
(16:15):
was a book in there by this wonderful woman. Her name was
Martha Beck, and the book was called
Guided by Starlight, or B, her own North Star, something like
that. And it was this wonderful book about how
to. Lots of interesting information in there, how to deal with
difficult people. But one of the things that really changed
my life in that book was that there was a chapter on
meditation practices. And I, started to meditate
(16:38):
with the practices that she described in
this book. And everything changed.
Within two weeks. My whole life changed. I mean, I went from
having 20 bucks in my bank account
and having to go to the bank with, like, a sock full of
change from the couch to try to pay a bill, to
getting a check for $10,000 within a
(16:58):
period of two weeks. and I can't promise that, like,
everybody would have those kinds of results. But it was.
And it could have just been a happenstance, you
know, But I do recall meditating
very intently and feeling
energy and be like. And realizing how. How
meditation can be a gateway to feeling energy
and tapping into things and sensing things, even if
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you don't have evidence for it yet. And so, I
mean, I was in an unhappy relationship. I needed to
get out of there, and talk about spirit guide moments. That was one time
where I heard, you need to get out, like, just
very loudly. and I. I was
like, okay, show me how. And, you know,
it was like around the same time all
(17:42):
of these things kind of just fell into place. But
I was able to move into my own apartment for the first
time. And it was there that I kind of was
able to catch my breath and feel like
I had a grasp on my life
again. I was like, you know, if
I could teach people to meditate in this in
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accordance with the cycles of the moon, the waning, the waxing
moon cycles, and helping to show
people how to manifest with the natural cycles of
the moon and the earth. And astrology fell into
that. And I was like, well, just look at the astrology surrounding the
moon. And then people were like, oh, you're an astrologer.
And I was like, well, I didn't think
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I was an astrologer, but then I kind of just
happened that I became an astrologer because
I wanted to teach people how to meditate and
meditate with like develop their own personal
practice and skill set.
>> John (18:38):
Absolutely. I love that.
You know, here's the thing though, and you probably
struggle with this is there's things out, like the
secrets, manifest manifestation.
You're manifesting everything. You know what I
mean? meditation.
But you know, a lot of people
just, I shouldn't say, buy into it.
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Everybody wants it quick, right? Everybody wants something quick they want
to do, you know, oh, I meditated for a day. Where's
my new car? I wrote this down. You know, how
do you get, when you're working with your clients, how do you kind of get
past like, look, yes, this happened
to me in two weeks, but it might take
two years for you or two months or
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you know what, how do you work with your clients and kind of explain
that?
>> Johnny Love (19:24):
So that's where looking at somebody's astrology chart comes
in handy because I can look at their birth
chart, the transits that are happening
now and get a sense of the energy
that they're, they're swimming through
and some of the challenges and some of the things that
are on the horizon for them. And
so that's when I have a conversation with them. I was like, well, what
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is it that you want? What is, what are your goals?
and then, you know, ideally I'll see a client four times
a year quarterly, and I'll give them, this is
where the next quarter's worth of full
moons and new moons will be falling in your
astrology chart. These are the areas that you can work
on manifesting in now and then over the
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course of a year, you will see progress in every
single one of these areas. So it's a systematic
approach. It's really not a magic pill
or something that you can take just to get
everything that you want. it,
it's practical advice, frankly. I
mean, but it's using ancient
wisdom. I, mean
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Western astrology has been around since 300
BC. and we have data that is,
based on observations of planetary movements,
for 2600 years at this point.
and that's, I mean it is the
mother of all the sciences. Even though it's been
rejected and you know, derided
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as pseudoscience by modern materialistic based
sciences, which is fine, but there
is something to it. And I think if people can
be open minded enough to
consider that we don't know everything,
we just, we just don't. I don't know how it
works, but I do know that we are energy
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and that our energy is affected by
things like gravity and mass and also
emotion. And the planets, when they're
in certain places, they take on this sort of
a certain kind of personality. I mean, right now as
we're recording this, Mars is retrograde in the sign of
cancer. That's a very specific
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energy versus when Mars is direct
in his home sign of Aries. Know, it's a different vibe.
So it's like being able to cultivate
an awareness of that kind of vibe
that can help us to just be more
conscious, and conscientious of the
environment we're inhabiting. I think
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it's helpful. I think there's, certainly I think
there are people out there who are looking to,
you know, make a quick buck or, you
know, get, you know, tell
people what they want to hear. But that's not what I'm here
to do. You know, I'm here to help people
learn to incorporate these
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practices into their own lives, to
help benefit themselves and grow their own
intuition and strengthen that muscle,
to just be more confident and
calmer people and more
like, happier in a world that is so
chaotic.
>> John (22:30):
Yeah. And that is really interesting
to me because everyone's different.
Life is to me very random.
And I can tell you very random things that have happened to
me that I didn't see coming and just,
you know, for good or bad. So again, if you have
someone like yourself who's, it's, ah, a shame people have
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to make a quick bu. But somebody like yourself, with integrity who
is like, okay, look, you know,
let's go through this. Let's build that
muscle and make it stronger. U and
I, and I love that. That's really cool.
So I have a question though.
>> Johnny Love (23:05):
Yeah.
>> John (23:05):
I did a little research and
something that I thought would be really interesting for you. And if
it's wrong, just say it because again, this is
just my research from what I've gotten off
the web, as they would say. So one thing I wanted to know,
like, describe the role of planets
and their astrological mean meetings in a
natal shart. Is that something you do?
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Or could you like, talk about planets and because you were
talking about Mars and Saturn and all this thing, I think my
spooky friends would love to be like, okay, what does
that mean for me? Or what does that mean?
>> Johnny Love (23:39):
Absolutely. I love talking about that. That's a great question.
>> John (23:42):
All right, great.
>> Johnny Love (23:43):
A natal chart. Let's start with that because
that's the thing that I,
That everybody has, whether they know it or not.
so when you're born, a natal chart is basically
a picture of where the planets were. At
the moment you came into your body and you began this
life. And so it's based
on geographic location of where you were born, the time of
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day you were born and the date. and that's all that
an astrologer needs to be able to pull your natal chart.
And then we can look at that and we get to see
where all those planets were. And
through understanding those planetary placements
and meetings of the planets. You know, think of it kind of
like a cocktail party. Each
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planet has a certain Persona
Whenever it's in a certain sign. So like I said
earlier, Mars and Cancer, whose retrograde is in a
very, very different mood, than Mars and
Aries. And so if we can look at the
sort of Persona that these planets are
playing in some of these natal chart, we can begin
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to understand their natal chart and
their personal proclivities. You can kind of
think of it as like a bloop or
a baseline operating system for
o the way somebody's wired.
Yeah. and so in that if
you're aware of this and,
you know, you maybe want to stretch to a different
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direction. Maybe there's something you don't like about yourself so much. You
can really consider, like, am I reacting
to something this way because this is the way
I'm wired? Or is there a
better way that I can look at this
situation? And that's where that sense
of awareness and consciousness comes in.
But it's not easy. This is, You know, it's much
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easier just. Just flop on the couch and turn the TV on and check
out youutely know.
>> John (25:38):
Absolutely. I love that. Let's do that.
>> Johnny Love (25:40):
Yeah, it's fun. But I mean, it's a certain point,
like, you'll get bored sitting on the couch. You
know, like, you ll. You'll want to embrace life. And you'll
want to really delve into the deeper
mysteries of the soul. And I think that our natal
charts are really a kind of key to understanding
that. And so if we look at the natal chart
as that sort of baseline operating system.
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And then we look at transits. Transits are, where the
planets are now in real time or at
a certain date. We can look at any date and time you want.
So we kind of get to time travel. And we can kind of get
ahead heads up of themes. because like I said,
we have 2600 years of data
of things that happen when certain planets do
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certain things in the skies. And as the
esoteric saying is, as above,
so below.
>> John (26:32):
Absolutely. I love that. That
makes total sense.
Now I'm super confused about
this. What are astrological houses and
how do they represent different areas of light?
So what's, let's. What's up? I
Help me out here, Aurora. I'm totally confused.
You explained itautifully and I got it. Now there's
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houses.
>> Johnny Love (26:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when we look at a natal chart,
it's divided into slices like a
pizza. So there's like all of these lines
through it. And those little slices are
what we call houses. And there's 12 houses and
everybody's Dal chart. And there's different house systems
that you can use for different purposes. But
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it's just a way of organizing the slices of
the pie. And the way it's organized is
based on the rising sign. And so some
people will be talking, you know, if you're at a
cocktail party or something, somebody will be like, oh, you're into astrology.
What are your big three? And so what people
mean by that is what is your sun, moon and rising
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sign? So the sun sign'the one everybody knows that's like,
oh, I'm a Sagittarius or I'm a whatever. But
not as many people know their moon sign because the moon changes signs every
two and a half days, but the rising sign
changes every two and a half minutes.
So roughly,
because we. It's based on whatever
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sign was on the horizon at the time you
were born. And that's very, very
specific. And so that's how
astrology can be very,
very personal and useful as a tool
for self reflection, for meditation and
manifestation, and also for forecasting
future events and understanding
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personal traumas in the past.
>> John (28:20):
M. I love that.
So you know what the next question
is gonna be? Explain the concepts of
zodiac signs and how they're used
in astrological interpretation. Ooh, that
was fancy.
>> Johnny Love (28:34):
Yeah. So I mean, like just the signs are the signs,
like Aries, Taurus, Gemini, like on through to
Pisces. And they're based on constellations and
there's mythology and planets assigned to them.
And it's really a beautiful system. When
you, really begin to understand it fully.
It's. I don't know that I've seen another
system that works quite so well. It's,
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it's sort of its own art and the way that it
works because it's, it's absolutely
just divine.
I think But I mean, so we can talk about Mars some
more. So right now, like I said, he's in Cancer,
but Mars in Cancer is very reserved and
sort of introspective and security focused
and all quiet and can be very
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slow to get things done. And the
energy of, things when Mars is in Cancer just
tends to be more plotting and like, just
almost arduous to make progress in some
ways. And it can also just feel like very
security focused. Like, you have to hold on to what
you have tightly versus, say,
Mars. And his home sign is
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Aries. So we'll go with that. Mars in Aries is very
aggressive. It's very gregarious and
a risk taker, a daredevil,
like, I would say evil Knievel kind of
embodies that. Mars and Aries, like, show
off flamboyant kind of energy. Like, look at what I
can do. And then doing it with flying colors on a
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motorcycle, upside down and backwards. So. But Mars
in Cancer is like, especially when he's retrograde like he
is now, it's very, like, reserved and introverted
and really would be happy just cozying up
with a cup of soup and a good sweater in front of a fire and reading
a book. So that's kind of what
the planets are like in different signs. And
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each planet has a different sort of
personality in every single sign as well.
>> John (30:26):
I love your analogies, Aurora.
Yeah, those are great.
So I guess one of my questions would be for you
too is. And let's get back to reading.
Okay. Like, how would you
explain, a challenging,
like, planetary placement that you might use a different
word? And how would you advise a
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client on navigating it? So, you
know, you were kind of talking about, oh, this Saturn's
kicking your butt, you know, and maybe you're talking to
a client and you're like, m. There's gonna be
some tough road ahead for you. How do you.
How do you talk to your client about that?
>> Johnny Love (31:05):
Well, I like to ask them questions
if I see things that I'm like, oh, that's not good. I can
start if I can. and I'm usually
pretty good at sussing out, like, what's going
on based on just looking at a chart. And I was
lucky enough for a while to work.
I, was an astrologer at a Renaissance festival for
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a while, and. Which is very different from what I normally do.
But, normally, like, people find
me somehow and they book an appoint with me and we get on Zoom
and we, we have a conversation Kind of like this,
but I pull in their astrology charts. but when I
was working at the Renaissance Festival,
I didn't get to do that. And I didn't know who these people were. It
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was literally anybody, who was
wanting to come sit with me and talk to me about
astrology and pay for, you know, 20 minutes of my
time. And it was a lot of fun. And it was also kind of
like the sats of astrology in some way,
because you just had an ephemeris
and that's it. It just tells you the
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numerical position and this. The sign of each
planet. So I just had a list of numbers, and that
was it. All I got to go off of for these people. And I
had a guy come in one day,
younger guy. He was
on the end of his Saturn return. I think
he was like, 30, 31. And he had a Venus
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in Scorpio placement. So his planet Venus was
in the sign of Scorpio when he was born. And
I remember sitting down. Look and looking at him, and he was really
cocky. He has his whole family with him. He was kind of like,
y'all watch this. This is gonna be a laugh. And he just
kind of thought it was bullshit. And I was like, yeah, come
on, you know, like, I was really nice to him. And he.
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He sat down and I pulled up to found his birthdayate in the ephemeris. and
was looking at stuff, and just off the top of my head, I was like,
okay, so what was going on in your love
life a year ago? And his
face just changed, just dropped. And he,
like, the color just drained from his face. And I was
like, well, what was it? I know it wasn't good.
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And he was like, I got divorced. And he
just started crying. And, no, Y. And
like. So I was like, yeah, well, Venus was retrograde over
your Venus. That was probably a really tough
time for you. And I think he had. He
had some really nasty, like, difficult
placements. Not nasty. And it's, like, hard to deal with
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placements that he was. Had been going through. And
I was like, what was going on at this time? What was going on at that time?
And he was like, well, I was in prison, and that's why I got
divorced. And I was like, well, you're
getting a second chance now. And I could see.
I could. I could, because I couldn know where the planets were moving
towards. I was like, look, you're getting a second chance. You're
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out. You're got people who care about
you, and you're here, so don't
do whatever you were doing before because you're not
getting any. You're not going get a third chance. This is it. So
make good on it. And he just looked at me with like
the biggest eyes and it felt like there was a
connection, you know, like that he understood what I was saying and
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that there was some real truth to it
that hit home for him. I never saw him again, but I
felt like I may have made a difference that day.
And it wasn't just, you know, entertainment and it wasn't just
a laugh. Sure, you know, So
I like to ask people questions because then they get to tell me
what's going on and then I can help pull
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the threads together and then give them some
hope for the future. because
know, the thing about planets is they don't take days
off. They're always moving. So the energy one
day can be very, very different from the energy the.
>> John (34:45):
Next day, you know. Aurora,
where were you three years ago when my life was going in
the toilet? I wish you had done a reading for
me then. that's really
interesting because like, for
like three years in a row, like, you name it,
everything terrible that could happen was
happening. Like, you know, I won't get into it,
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but it was just like. So I don't know if my planets
were just crashing or what's going on with that, but that's
really interesting, you know.
>> Johnny Love (35:15):
Yeah, I mean, we, we all have, there are
planetary oppositions and returns that
happen to each one of us throughout the course of our lives.
But then we also have things that maybe
are unique to just us.
so Pluto is a very slow moving planet.
And so a lot of people won't live through a
Pluto sun conjunction unless they have their
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sun sign kind of near where Pluto's moving
towards in their lifetime. But Pluto takes
240 years to make a trip around
the zodiac. And so when I was born,
Pluto was in Scorpio. I'm a son and
Sagittarius. So I lived through a Pluto
conjunction on my son, which is one of the most difficult
transits you can live through. and
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I don't necessarily recommend it, but it is
something that I can say I've lived through and I come out the other side and
I understand it. And so that, that is one thing I
think that, as an astrologer, I have a bit of an
edge over some having lived through
that. Like one of the most difficult transits you can live through. And so I
help clients who were going through that. And now
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Pluto's an Aquarius 'll be in Aquarius for the next 20
years. So Aquarians out there
listening, if you want me to talk you off a ledge,
please don't hesitate to get in touch because it's not fun,
you know, Pluto conjunct your son. But you can live through
it and you can grow from it and it's absolutely
transformational. But yeah,
there's difficulties set up in our lives
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astrologically for sure that we have to
overcome.
>> John (36:47):
Absolutely, absolutely. So
you.
Thank you Roa, because you gave me two questions
that, that I wanted to ask you that you set
me up perfectly for. How do you handle
situations where a client might be
seeking validation for a pree
existing beliefs or desires?
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Right. So they come into you already like ah, all right,
Aurora, this is. And you're like whoaa,
whoa, right? I mean, how do you handle that?
>> Johnny Love (37:16):
Well, I mean there are certain planetary
placements where you can see this coming. You can look at somebody's chart
and you can see, okay, this person's a very
materialistic, pragmatic, cynical
kind of mindset. And that's fine. The world
needs every single kind of person on this
planet. It does. Whether or not we like all the people on this planet,
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it's another story. But like the world needs
conflict to grow, really. It
doesn't need to always be in conflict to grow. But ah,
at certain points we do need conflict. But
I think I look for ways to
add value to their experience into their
lives. So it's not necessarily about
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validating them or stroking their ego, but giving
them something to consider. and it would be unique to
who? Like whatever person is sitting in front of me.
One person came to me and
they had, I think they had a
South node in
Capricorn and a North node in Cancer. And the Lunar
nodes are they're interesting. They're not even planets, but they's something
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that I like to use in astrology because it can really
help unlock difficulties like make them
less difficult for us. And so for a person
with a South node in Capricorn,
these people are natural workaholics. They
would rather be at the office and be at
home. But that's not what they need to do.
They actually need to learn to be
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softer, more caring, more nurturing.
Because the north node is all about our souls growth
and our destiny, like what the universe sort of demands
of us to cultivate within ourselves. And so I had
this guy sitting in front of me and he seemed like really skeptical about
stuff. And I was like, so, when did you stop being a
workaholic? Because you seem pretty happy right now.
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And he was like, well, how did you know
I was a workaholic? And I was like, well, I'm looking at your astrology
chart. And I was like, at some point
you prioritized your family
and your home life above the
work life, and everything got
better. And he. He,
like, kind of, looked at me like
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he didn't want to admit it. But then he. He was like,
actually, a few years ago, like, we went through some
things and I really had to readjust my priorities.
But since I've done that, like, everything, even
workflow is better. Like, it's. It just does.
And he was. Then he was
interested in what I had to say. So it's. It's
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about finding things to. To pull out, to tease out
that could give them some food for thought
versus trying to convince somebody
of something that, maybe they're.
They're not interested in being convinced of.
>> John (39:59):
Yeah, absolutely.
So, kind of piggybacking off that question,
can you describe a time when you had to set
boundaries with a client regarding their
expectations from an astrological
reading?
>> Johnny Love (40:13):
Not so much with clients. I'm pretty good with, u.
Like, with my clients, I mean, it's a pretty. I
mean, it's an hour and 15 minutes of our
time, and then it's via zoom. And I give
them a lot of reading material. And I.
I've never really had anybody cross those boundaries.
good. So that's been good. I've had
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other astrologers cross
boundaries. and I've had people in my personal life
acrossoss boundaries, but not so much my
clients. My clients seem to be really wonderful
people. I'm lucky in that way.
>> John (40:47):
Yeah, you are very lucky. People listening to
this are gonna be like, wow,
Aurora sounds cool. Yes, she is. She is
officially one of my stooky friends.
But here's what. Here's where people really
need to know is like. Like, what are your
ethical guidelines when providing
astrological advice, particularly
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regarding sensitive topics like health
or relationship?
>> Johnny Love (41:13):
M. I think this is. I've got a
great example for this. So I had a client come to
me about a year ago, and I could see
that there were things in her chart that. Well,
actually, I've got two stories I'll tell. Tell the one I'm telling
first, and then I'll tell you the other one. So I
could tell that this person's
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relationship life was about to really
undergo a change. And she was telling me some
things. And I was like, well, does this
feel like a happy, like,
equitable relationship to you? Is this what you
want? Because based on what I'm seeing here,
this isn't it. Like, you're about to go through a real
transformation in this part of your life. and
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that transformation is your. You have a
say in that, you know, so you think about what
you want and what you feel like you deserve and whether or
not this is it. Because if it's not,
like, life is short.
>> John (42:10):
Yeah.
>> Johnny Love (42:11):
and her relationship ended a week
later, and the guy was gone, you know, two
weeks later. And, I
felt hugely responsible and had this real
sense of guilt, like maybe I had done something
wrong. I was able to have many conversations with
her afterward, and she said, no, you absolutely did the right thing. You
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didn't tell me my relationship was over. You just
got me to ask myself questions that
helped me to find the answer for myself. And that's
kind of. My approach is to.
It's pretty Socratic. It's try to
gently help people get in touch with what's going
on for themselves. The second story I'll tell you,
has to do with both health and sex. And it's
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an amazing story.
I love this story because it's just
validating on a lot of levels. So I had a client come
to me. She was a woman, and she
came to me for a session. We had our session, and
I looking at her chart and I said, you know, I really don't
like the look of this transit that's happening on this
date. Do not make plans. Don't go out of
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town. Don't have any big commitments on
around this weekend. I don't know what's going to happen. I don't think
it's going to be fun. I don't think you're going to
enjoy it. But it's going to be transformational.
And it's going to have to do with sex
and, your sense of femininity.
but I don't know what it is. Like, the universe can give
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me clues, but it doesn't tell me the whole story.
You know, that would take the fun out of living life.
so, you know, she said, okay, okay,
okay. she goes away,
and then that date rolls around on
the calendar. It was Urana's conjunct, her moon, I think is what
it was. I forget which house it was in, but it was
Uranus and Taurus conjunct, her moon in Taurus. And
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that that date happened. She had this unexpected
pain Very suddenly she was rushed to the
hospital. She had a cyst on her ovary
and she had to have her ovary removed. And since
then she has gone through this whole sexual
identity revolution. She's now
like going, she's trans now. Like, I, like, because
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of this. I don't know if it's because of this, but I think
this kicked it off, you know. and so
it's really changed who she sees herself as. And it
really does tick all of those boxes. And it's not
anyone's fault, you know, this is just what's
happened. but she was so
grateful that, you know, it.
She kind of felt supported in a way. They. I
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should say now they're going, they. But, which
is perfectly fine. But
it's, you know, it's
useful, I think it'it. Would be. It was
useful for her to have a heads up to know
that something was up around this date and
time. and she kind of
felt, you know,
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supported, in that, ah, as
much as you can be for something unexpected
like that. It wasn't fun. But she's survived
and shee.
>> John (45:17):
And I think you take a great approach at it
because you're like, okay, this,
you know, is what's going on and
you know, again, you know, things happen
and whatever, but you know, just, you know,
keep an open mind about things. I think that's a great
approach. Like you said, you're not like,
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don't go out unless maybe there was a time, maybe you were
like, don't leave your house. Was there a time
like that where you actually told a client, like, it's
February 12th, do not go outside your house.
>> Johnny Love (45:49):
It's not. I did have a client recently who's going through some
stuff and I told them it was like, I hope they're doing
okay. It's like kind of now. It's like the end of January
to the end of fe. February. Right.
So the next month or so, like, please be very, very,
very careful. Just don't drive distracted
and keep your. Like just be very aware whenever you get
(46:10):
behind the wheel of a car because
you're going to be more accident prone. And
just try to mitigate
the fallout from potential accidents
as much as possible. So I don't tell people
to not live their lives, but I do give
sensible advice. you know, like,
(46:31):
because it's good to be reminded and to be aware. If you don't know,
that's you're kind of a magnet for
misfortune at a certain period of Time then you
could just be toodling along and
next thing you know you're in the hospital. Because I was driving home
last night from m A concert and there was a, car having car
trouble and they were very clearly like
stopped in the middle of the interate in Atlanta. They
(46:53):
were stopped like their car just died in the middle
of the interstate. And somebody wasn't paying attention and
came in and slammed into the back of them going 70 miles an hour.
And I was just a few lanes over from it and I was
like, you know, like, how dense do
you have to be to not see the car right in front of
you? But I mean, people are driving around on their phones all the time, not
(47:14):
paying attention. And so, you know, I
do just like to remind people, like,
well, especially when they're having troubling
transits going on, like, just to take an extra
measure of caution.
>> John (47:28):
Yeah, absolutely.
So let's have a little fun.
Okay, I'm gonna ask you some questions.
I'm not trying to put you on the spot or anything, but I am a
taurus, okay? Okay. All right. I was
born in April. If you need to know my birthday, I'll tell you. I don't
care.
>> Johnny Love (47:44):
I bet you're honest. Was on your son whenever you were
having your three years of fun. Not
that long ago.
>> John (47:51):
Well, thanks for telling me now, Aurora.
>> Johnny Love (47:54):
You should have found me sooner. I don't know.
>> John (47:56):
I should have found you sooner. What was I doing? so let's
have a little fun here, okay?
So let's talk about relationships. And I
get. Don't worry, I'm not trying to put you on the spot here.
But how do you analyze. I'm a Taurus.
My compatibility between two people using
their NATO chart. So you hear
this all the time. I'm justnna throw this out. So don't laugh at
(48:18):
me if you do. Snaker. So maybe a Pisces
is not good for me, but maybe a, Capricorn is
better for me. I don't know. But how do you do that? So I'm
coming to you. I'm a Tauruist, born in April.
I'm looking to find Mrs.
Rightight. Do you get those? And what would you
tell me?
>> Johnny Love (48:36):
Yeah, I. I get clients. I get guys coming to me and
they're like, I've got these two girls. Here's their information.
I need know who's better
Me. And I'm like, all right, let's get into
it.
>> John (48:49):
Love it.
>> Johnny Love (48:50):
you know, and I think,
it's. It depends on what the person's
looking for. Right, whether they're looking for Mrs. Rightight
miss or forever or for Mrs. Right
now. and it's the
whole chart. So it's not just
whether or not somebody's sun sign is a match for
somebody else's sun sign. It's their moon signs, it's their Venus, it's their re
(49:12):
Mars. It's where these things fall in their
houses. It's very complicated. So it takes
time, for me to look at these things and I do it with the
person.
so I kind of talk about like, well, this
person's U. so you're a Taurus and
you said this sign Capricorn. So Taurus and
Capricorn get along really, really well. They
(49:33):
like, they're, they're just very
practical and pragmatic. Capricorn
brings the money to the
romance. Taurus likes to spend the money on nice things
and make the home comfortable and have good food around.
So that can be a really stable environment. A TS with
a Pisces is going to help support the
emotional nature of the, the Pisces intuitive
(49:55):
flowing, sort of ethereal, creative
vibe which can also be really stimulating for Taurus.
But Taurus is going to have to take on a little bit more of a
masculine role and being the supportive
figure in that sort of situation. Because
if we just make it very simple in terms of
elemental, like
(50:16):
elements. Earth supports water.
So Earth like contains
water. And that can be an interesting and
creative relationship that might be more exciting
than two Earth energies coming together which can
be a little bit stagnant and stale. So
depend on what somebo looking for.
>> John (50:36):
So in other words, you get me and I
say I'm looking at these two different
women. I like, I'm just say
Julie, Sarah. All right. Sarah's
really cool. I really like Sarah. She's outgoing, she's
fun. I like Julie. She's practical
and she, you know, she's honest. She,
whatever. So like you said you'd
(50:57):
basically. But I guess. Let me back up
here. What if I told you a sign that you're
like is there a sign that like no way. That
is not gonna work. Like Julie is U. I,
don't know, Taurus too. I don't know. The
Tauruses and Tauruses work together. I'm just.
>> Johnny Love (51:15):
They can, they can. But Tauruss have
a, a tendency to be somewhat self
involved. and which is
fine, you know, they don't like to
share very much. So two to
so Like a lot.
No offense, but like I'm not sharing anymore.
(51:36):
But like, so two Tauruses can be a little
bit petty if they're not really
jiving together. If. Because it's again, Tauruss
is just where the sun was when these two people were
born. So like they can get along pretty
well. But where their moons were, where their rising
signs are, where their Venuses are, that tells a
(51:56):
much richer story. And that's where looking at
two charts in synastry comes in
handy. And that's what I do for a couples readings.
And I also have couples come for me, come to me
for transits and helping them plan their families or
when they should purchase property or take a big
vacation, things like that too. So it's,
it's not always just like who's gonna
(52:19):
keep me interested, you know, and. But you can tell like
who. Like just without any information other
than the charts, you can see beautiful
contacts being made or very
harsh contacts being made. And you know,
the hard ones are not going to be fun
relationships for the people. So, so that.
>> John (52:38):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, go on.
>> Johnny Love (52:40):
Oh, go ahead. I mean, you just want to look for easy
connections in people's charts.
>> John (52:45):
Yeah. So I think
I figured this out, Aurora. I think you figure this
out and I'll to come. Well, I have to have you back on because I got a
million other questionseah.
>> Johnny Love (52:55):
Happy to come back.
>> John (52:57):
So there are people who get me and
people don't get me. I mean, I've talked about this
already to like mediums and we've talked about
auras, we've talked about energies and stuff. Like
literally, I'm one of those people, I walk up
to certain people and they're like, o, hey
man, whatever. Other people are like, john,
hey, give me a hug, you know, and stuff. you're the greatest.
(53:20):
It's super weird and I don't
know why it happens, but also it
happens more with women than
men. So like for
example, a lot of my cowork, A lot of
I work work with a lot of female co
workers and either female cowork workers are like, hey
John, let's, let's have lunch and let's talk about this. Or
(53:41):
they let's, let's goss. You know, let's
do some office gossip, you know. Another. Other
people, they wouldn't give me the time of
day, Aurora. When I even try, when I like,
hey, Sally, how you doing?
How's your day going? And yeah, okay,
John. And then they, you know, they're Looking the other way. They re. Think,
(54:03):
how am I getting all this conversation?
>> Johnny Love (54:04):
So, yeah, how does that.
>> John (54:06):
How do you. You. I guess my. That's kind of a rambling. Sorry
to go have that tangent. But like, how do you. When
people come to you like that and they're just like,
Aurora, I just, I don't know what's going on. You know,
I'm trying to make new friends. I'm trying to
find the, you know, the person to spend the rest of
my life with. but I connect with some, but I don't conn
(54:26):
with others. Like, do. Do you ever have those conversations
with people?
>> Johnny Love (54:30):
I feel like I have those conversations with myself all day long.
So, yeah. No, I mean, I know what it's like and the struggle is
real. I think everybody has that. But you can.
Like, if we're talking about astrology
specifically, you could look at two different people's charts
and. Or three different peoples s. And two of the three get
along really, really well. And there's a third person who is
(54:52):
like the third wheel. You can see
conflict in the chart elements and
the. In the placements. And you can know
who's gonna be like. Without seeing the people
in the wild or they. What they look like
or witnessing their interactions. You can tell who is
who based on the pictures of their chart. and you
can say like, well, these two will get along and this
(55:15):
person isn't happy with this for some reason.
Or maybe they get along in some way. Like, they're
serviceable. They're a perfectly capable
accountant for these two people. But they're not friends, you
know, like, they're doing their job and they're honest and
whatnot, but, you know, they're not Buddy. Buddy.
>> John (55:31):
You could see iteah. Yeah, that's. See,
that's interesting to me. I'ALWAYS found that
really fascinating.
Especially different people who I meet and
everything like that. And I'm that way with other people. I'm not
saying it's just me. I, you know, I've met some people, I'll be
honest with you, where I'm just like,
yeah, we're just not
(55:54):
get to work.
>> Johnny Love (55:55):
Yeah.
>> John (55:56):
It's not that I. And I. I want to use this
correctly. It's not that I hate anyone
because that's. That's for children, you know, it's
just nothing I can do or say. And then I have to
fake it till I make it.
Like I said I'd be. Hey, how you do it? How's everything go?
And I sound like, you know, some cheesy. I don't
know, salesman or something. I don't know. You know what I mean?
(56:17):
And I think that's really interesting. I would love
to like, have someone like you just come in the middle of the
conversation and go, okay, let's figure this out.
>> Johnny Love (56:26):
Ye, that's a good point. I mean, so I can give
a personal example. So I'm a, My son'in
Sagittarius. My, like my son. I'm a
son and Sagittarius person. I don't have. But
I have a hard time with a lot of Burgos and Virgo and
Sagittarius is square to each other.
And I respect Virgos in a lot
of ways. And the themes as to why
(56:49):
we don't get along are consistent with all the Virgo people
I've met and then Sagittarius people
like, I get along with for the most part too. But some
of them drive me absolutely crazy as well. So
it''s. It's not just the sun sign,
you know, it really is all of the elements. You
know, a person with a Mercury
and Sagittarius will absolutely drive me
(57:11):
crazy because they don't know when to shut up.
Like they have foot and mouth disease. where
somebody with, Like I have a Mercury in Scorpio,
which is a little bit more focused and
exly ###ing with the way I use words. And I'd
like to think that I have, a good ability to read a
room. I know when to be quiet, I know to. When to
(57:31):
talk. And that kind of, But with
Virgos and not all Virgos,
but like it. I feel like it's. For me, it's like Virgo
syndrome. And it's because I'm a son and
Sagittarius person that with a lot of Virgos
I just, I meet this
resistance of, Like they're
very focused on the details of things
(57:53):
and because of that, a lot of times they
don't often see the bigger picture.
and I'm a bigger
picture thinker. and I'm
so busy painting with very broad strokes
that the details can oftentimes
be suggested. where they, they really
want to make sure that every single
(58:15):
nickel dime is accounted for, every T
is crossed, every I is dotted. And I
find that working with Virgos can be really, really,
really beneficial to me because they can take my work to
that next level and really neaten it up, make it really
tidy and presentable. And
so even with difficult combinations,
(58:35):
there are ways
to acknowledge the gifts that everybody brings
to the table, you know?
>> John (58:43):
Yeah.
>> Johnny Love (58:44):
Even. Even difficult relationships and transits
and aspects in astrology have some
kind of benefit that
is accessible if you're willing to look for
it.
>> John (58:56):
Yeah, I love that.
So before we wrap up and I ask you what's coming up and
where we what do you tell people about. Because
she'll love this episode. One of my friends,
she used to show me her. Her u
horoscope, every day. And she'd be like,
look, this is. And I'd always look at her and
(59:16):
I'JUST be like, really? You think that's. What do you
tell people like that? Because don't you think that's a little bit
too. Taken it too far or do you have a different view on
it?
>> Johnny Love (59:25):
Well, I hate horoscopes and I will
tell you why.
>> John (59:29):
okay, there we.
>> Johnny Love (59:30):
Because they really reduce
down thousands of years of
information into something that is really
juvenile and sort of dumb and does not really
give it the gravitas that I think it
deserves. And it's not written in a way that even
makes sense. So.
>> John (59:49):
Right.
>> Johnny Love (59:49):
We should be. If you read a horoscope, for one thing, you
should not be reading your sun sign. You should be reading your rising
signs fororoscope. So remember earlier in the conversation
I was like the riseing sign changes every few minutes or
so because that dictates where
the houses fall. And so the rising sign
will give you a better idea of what
(01:00:10):
is actually going to happen for you that day. So
you might be a sun Taurus, but you could be an Aquarius
rising. So in that case I would
say read Aquarius, don't read Taurus.
>> John (01:00:21):
Y.
>> Johnny Love (01:00:21):
You know, I mean read both if you want, but like,
Aquarius is probably going to be more accurate for you.
so I think that most people are out there reading the wrong
horoscope. And then the people who are reading the
wrong horoscope and they don't, they're like, this is bullshit
because this never shows up in my life. They're
like, well, it must be astrology, be
(01:00:42):
bullshit because this doesn't ever work
for me. but it's because
the they publishers have
made a toy out of a very intricate,
articulate system and have really dumbed it
down and have done the practice
of disservice in doing so.
>> John (01:01:01):
Yeah, I could t. I couldn't agree
more. So again, it's for entertain
entertainment purposes only. if you
really people, with spooky friends here, you
really, really, really want to know
what's going on and get, you know, some, how
would I say, direction in your life.
Aurora is the person to reach out to. So we'll
(01:01:23):
reach out to her. because I,
all I can say is wow. I came into this conversation
going, I know nothing about it and now I know
a lot about it and it's super cool. You
know, it's, it's not the stupid paper reading
it and it's not, you know, some goofy, I don't
know, chart on a wall. It's like more than that.
(01:01:44):
So it's amazing. So, so tell me
and tell my spooky friends where they can find you
and you know, set up a session or maybe
just reach out to you.
>> Johnny Love (01:01:54):
Yeah. So My website is
bloodmoonmk.com. i also do a
podcast that comes out every new moon and full moon
called Blood Moon Milk Astrology. You can find it on
Spotify, Apple podcast, all that stuff.
And I'm doing a ah, full moon workshop for
the upcoming full moon in Leo. It is
limited availability. That's going to be on
(01:02:15):
February 9th. So a week from
tomorrow at 6:30pm Eastern is via Zoom,
25 bucks. I'll give everybody who signs up
their a picture of their natal chart and the
transits with the full moon and then we'll log on to
Zoom and I'll talk about what's going on and kind of help
people make sense of that for themselves because
I really think that if people can
(01:02:37):
learn this system for themselves
and kind of find ways of implementing this
and it's just in a
very small way it makes the world a collectively better place
over time. So. And if you want a session, just reach out. I'm,
Aurora, atlooodondmilk.com is my email. Aurora
with an H on the end.
>> John (01:02:58):
This has been amazing. I got one word
for you. Wow, this is, this is
great. Like I said, I went into it thinking one
thing and now I'm like blowing away.
So thank you so much and thank you so much for go over over time
but definitely have y I back on because I didn't
even get to some questions. I wanted to get to more into the signs
and the houses and stuff like that. I wasn't trying to
(01:03:20):
overwhelm you like, whoa, you know, what are we getting into? Because
this could go on for like three hours and you're like, ah, I'm looking at my
watch. But no, thank you so much and thank you so much for going
overime here. I truly appreciate taking time out of
your, your day spend with me. And, when this comes out,
like I said, my spooky friends, I'll have every, all the links in
there. Please go to her podcast. Please reach
(01:03:41):
out to her, even if you're a little skeptical. Right.
You know, it's okay. Right. Send you a message.
>> Johnny Love (01:03:46):
Skepticism is a healthy, healthy part of life
and I embrace it fully.
>> John (01:03:52):
Yeah. And please ask her some questions. You know, I'm sure,
Aurora, you love questions about, you know, how
do you deal? Because we only scratched the surface of how she deals with
clients, but she told some amazing stories about,
you know, how to kind of shape their lives even
in a little way. And that's a good thing. And to Aurora's
point to, even if it makes your life just a
(01:04:12):
fraction better, that's awesome.
Right? Because we all need that in this world today.
>> Johnny Love (01:04:19):
Absolutely. Thank you so much. It's been a true pleasure.
>> John (01:04:22):
Thank you, Aurora. you have a great day
and, have so much fun. You know, one thing too. Maybe we'll have to
do a reading someday.
>> Johnny Love (01:04:30):
Time. I'm here, love.
>> John (01:04:33):
Thanks, Aurora. By Bye so much.
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